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>FAQs
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>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
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>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
Here's a map.
Is there anything special about which Land Raider I decide to run? Like does the Redeemer benefit from Salamanders chapter tactics? Crusader benefit from Imperial Fists chapter tactics?
>>46344714
Transport capacity? And I think the chapter specific special rules only apply to units with Chapter Tactics if I'm not mistaken.
>>46344790
So it really doesn't matter, as far as mechanics goes?
Hello all, new player here, I'm going to buy the Start Collecting! Skitarii box set, could I have any advice in regards to the game? I have pdfs of the Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus codices, as well as the 7th edition rules.
I'm afraid that I've never built nor painted a model, might I have some assistance in regards on how to do so?
I made a thread earlier, in case you'd wish to answer my questions there, instead of in here.
>>46344175
>>46344832
Well, certain Land Raiders may fit your force better than others, but it's nothing as clear cut as 'this one has flamers, take it with Salamanders', unless you're trying to be fluffy.
I think the only mechanical advantage one chapter has with Land Raiders is Black Templars, since their Crusader squads can take a Crusader as a dedicated transport, which gives it objective secured.
now that we have a new thread, check out the scions in overkill rules that they posted over on war of sigmar
>>46344880
Oh okay then, thanks.
>>46344900
>>46344832
Redeemer has the best sponsons. Crusader has the best transport capacity and most useful sponsons. Regular is just bad and has mixed roles. LC sponsons are nice but you have zero capacity and why need AV14 assault transport for a long range tank? Just take Predators or Devastators or even Razorbacks nstead
>>46344880
ObSec Landraider = Baller as fuck
>>46344860
>might I have some assistance in regards on how to do so?
/WIP/ threads could help you.
Remove mold lines, prime your model and thin your paints is the jist of it though.
>>46344920
>>46344860
Well, I don't know as many details about Ad Mech specifically, though for general advice, always plan out how you're going to assemble things before gluing, and try not to use too much.
For painting, it's often easier to plan out your color scheme and paint the individual pieces separately before gluing them. Always remember to prime first, and thin your paints so you're not just glopping it on heavily. If you want more detailed advice, the /wip/ thread has much more info about color schemes and painting methods, as well as some guides which might help.
>>46344935
>>46344953
last page that's been leaked. i guess the leaker didn't put up the page with the map for the mission.
>>46344900
age of emperor is reality...
great...
>>46344900
Much as I love stormtroopers, I wish they'd do a bit on the deathwatch team that initially went to the mine.
>>46344922
I have one for my Carcharodons. It's not that great since it's not as strong as a Spartan or invisible deathstar or even a bunch of bikers when pushing into opponent's objectives, and it's very expensive to be rolling around in your own deployment capping objectives.
>>46344924
>>46344936
Thank you, I'll look into them tomorrow, as I need to sleep now.
>>46344936
You've answered one of the questions I was going to pose, good to know that I should paint the pieces individually.
>>46344980
Damn i just started painting one for my Sharks... Should i just DS the red bros or is LR the best option?
>>46344988
So are you ESL or from the 1800s?
You type too... properly?
Fear not, brave soldiers! I've returned to compile the mega shitpost and save the day!
Reiterated shitpost clearing compilation to clean the thread before it starts.
>Melee Race, I2, Orkurion, Blitz Brigade.
>When are they going to fix Tyranids?
>"All x-race players are y"
>D Weapons
>Super Heavies
>Baleflamer Salamander ruling
>Complaining about Woofs
>Complaining about Eldar, Tau, or Crons.
>CSM Never :^)
What's your go-to unorthodox tactic with your army list that throws your opponents off?
>>46345079
Mass Vespid. Nobody bothers to remember their rules, so it's a huge advantage.
>>46345029
Erm, sorry? Neither, I'm afraid, I just simply prefer to type this way over others.
So my group is looking at getting into a mapped campaign as fuel for our weekly battles. We've never done it before and we don't know how we are going to do it.
Anyone know some good sources on how to go about running one? We wanna go the full shebang with moving armies around the maps, planetary bonuses etc etc. Things I've read are helpful, but usually designed for a few editions ago.
>>46345006
You sort of have to put them in a Drop Pod or some kind of transport. Stock DS is never an option for LC TEQ unless you just want to use them as a 175 point throwaway unit.
Sometimes you can pull off amazing things with them though like deep striking into multi level ruins, surviving, and charging successfully. Or if your opponent is retarded and lets you charge.
Do the adeptus mechanics belive in an afterlife?
>>46345079
Tau shitposting arguably deserves it's own line.
>>46345159
Becoming a servo-skull is a thing, yes. Duty to the Emperor never ends if you do you job good enough.
>>46345159
ALL SENTIENT BIOFORMS WITH SUFFICIENT MACHINE SPIRIT APPEASEMENT VALUES ARE UPLOADED DIRECTLY TO THE OMNISSIAH, TO EXIST WITH COMPLETE DATA INTEGRITY FOR ALL ETERNITY
New Necron player from last thread. Figured out a CAD I guess I will build towards instead of just running the two formations.
Destroyers seem really cool and my current Overlord with twenty warriors is pretty boring. Putting the warriors in Ghost Arks makes them way more durable and mobile and frees up my HQ to become a Destroyer lord.
I may want to bring back my triarch stalker just for another big gun because my list doesn't have too much high strength. (though it is all gauss so that could be okay)
HQ: Destroyer Lord - 155
>Veil of Darkness
>Warscythe
TROOPS: 2 units of 10 Warriors - 235 each
>both in Ghost Arks
FAST ATTACK: 3 Canoptek Wraiths - 129
>Whip Coils
3 Destroyers with 1 Heavy Destroyer
HEAVY: Canoptek Spyder 75
>Fabricating Claw Array
>Gloom Prism
>Twin Linked Particle Beamer
999/1000
>>46345140
Mhmm well i guess into the Land Raider they go. Also mind sharing your list? Thanks shark bro.
>>46345127
Here is a fuck huge image of the campaign rules I just got out of. I don't think it is 100% complete rules and there were some revisions made but yeah it was just a tiled map.
>>46345079
i don't have one, but i play daemons so most don't know what to expect. i need to try that one anon's idea, getting some chaos sorcerors and casting boons on a bloodthrister but it's expensive to pull off
>>46344673
Why is Ultima Segmentum so big
>>46345324
Manifest Destiny
>>46345324
It isn't being cockblocked by the Eye of Terror or the vacuum behind the Halo Stars
>>46344673
>tau faggots live right next to smurfs
>smurfs are too useless to just destroy them already
figures
>>46345324
Because math and the location of Terra.
>>46345354
>>46345337
>>46345357
wtf i hate ultramarines now
>>46345379
>mfw girlyman thought his handful of little planets in a middle of buttfuck nowhere was an 'empire', he called it imperium secundus
>he thought defending his empire was more important than saving terra
>mfw the smurfs havent destroyed the tau because they dont care if the tau fuck up imperial space as long as they stay out of ultramar
bastards the whole lot of them
>>46345446ULTRAMEMES GET OUT! REEEEE!
>>46345446
what if gorillaman was aware of the Tau's plot armor and keep them alive because he knew nids wouldn't be able to eat them? someone get kryptman on the phone so he can steer some more nids at them
>>46345446
Ultramar had like 500 worlds but then the traitors sacked most of them or something.
Am I a faggot if I want to use the Cult Mechanicus and Skitarri codices to run Hereteks?
>>46345357
>zeist
every time they try, someone important calls them to another front.
>>46345483
>"Fucking Kryptman, I just know he's behind these recent Tyranid hive fleet incursions. Just when we recovered from Behemoth's attack on Macragge!"
>"Your orders, Master Calgar?"
>"It's time to broker an alliance with the Tau. Two can play at this game, KRYPTMAAAAAAN!!!"
>And thus, the eternal war between the Blueberry Smurf Alliance and the Great Devourer tore the galaxy asunder
>It was truly the gbe
>>46345515
You don't really have a choice until FW does Dark Mechanicus. It's what people were doing with Imperial Knights before Chaos Knights came out.
>>46345529
I'd say that the Tau's days will be pretty numbered once the imperium halts the 13th black crusade
>>46345515
Heresy is what it is, Heretek scum!
>>46345529
>'oh gee guise, we were gonna kill all those taus, but then ultramar came under threat of ork/nid/demon/whatever attack so we didnt. sorry lol'
hmmm sounds familiar...
>'oh sorry guise, we were gonna help defend terra, but then ultramar came under threat of attack by chaos and demons, so we didnt. sorry lol.'
>>46345580
Hilarious isn't it, almost like someone pulled the same prank twice.
>>46345222
Fluff accurate mode (uses everything pictured in IA10, including weapons, vehicles, and wargear)
CAD
1 Tyberos
5 Terminators, Assault Cannon
5 Red Brethren
5 Scouts, 5 Sniper Rifles
1 Drop Pod
1 Tarantula Sentry Gun TLLC, Deep Strike mode
1 Tarantula Sentry Gun TLLC, Deep Strike mode
1 Tarantula Sentry Gun TLLC, Deep Strike mode
Demi-Company
1 Captain, Power Fist, Artificer Armor (helm-less captain from "The Judges, In Their Hunger)
1 Dreadnought, TLLC, DCCW
5 Tactical Marines, Plasma Gun, 5 Chainswords
5 Tactical Marines, Melta Gun, 5 Chainswords, Rhino (extra armor, as pictured in IA10)
5 Tactical Marines, Missile Launcher (FW variant)
5 Assault Marines, 2 Flamers, Melta Bombs
5 Devastators, 4 Lascannons
RAPE EVERYONE MODE
CAD
1 Librarian on Bike ML2, Force "Staff" Maul
1 Librarian on Bike ML2, Force Sword
5 Command Squad, 5 Melta Guns, 5 Bikes
3 Bikes, 2 Grav Guns, 1 Combi-Grav
3 Bikes, 2 Grav Guns, 1 Combi-Grav
5 Scouts
5 Scouts
5 Grav Centurions, 5 Grav-Cannons, 5 Hurricane Bolters
Librarius Conclave
5 Librarians, ML2, random power weapons based on model
I can't fit the Land Raider Mk IIb shown in IA10 in the fluffy CAD so I just swap out stuff to randomly bring in ~200 point units like Contemptors, Leviathan Dreadnoughts, or Land Raiders when I feel like using a model.
>>46345507
Nah when ultramar got invaded they did fuck all in the grand scheme. Something like 30 worlds were ransacked before it got stopped.
>>46345562
>>46345574
I-it's not like I want to join Chaos or anything. I just want a tech-themed fluffy army (Skitarii+IG+IK) that isn't hidebound to the retardation of Mars.
I also don't want to paint it red.
So I just got out of a game with an Imperial Fists player. I played guard.
Around the bottom of turn 2 he drop-podded a squad of Legion of the Damned onto my flank. I was NOT prepared for how tough those guys are.
He lost, but seemed to enjoy using them. What kinds of tactics besides DISTRACTION LotD are they good for?
>>46345580
Nah m8, in that case it was the chapters that seconded troops to the ultramarine's campaign.
>>46345599
>the self proclaimed 'brilliant tactician' rawbutt girlyman thought that 30 worlds in buttfuck nowhere ultramar, were more important than terra
sounds about right..
>>46345159
No, once they die they're soul is devoured by the void dragon
>>46345633
Mindfuck tactics?
>>46345633
They are just a T4 3++. The only reason they should even scare you is ignores cover and relentless heavy weapons.
>>46345623
There are a bunch of non red schemes for loyalist Mechanicus armies. Each Forge World has its own paint scheme.
>>46345662
It does?
So when I make my colour scheme for my Knight, I can just say that his partnered Forge World has the same colour scheme and I'm not totally blowing smoke out my ass?
Thanks, friend. I am not a fluff master.
>>46345650
Being honest, they did very little, but the 3++ caught me completely off guard when he saved through an entire Tempestus Command squad's worth of Hot-Shot volley guns.
Then they spent two turns completely failing to kill a single wyvern before killing one HWS in melee and dying to said MT command squad...in melee.
Still, though....he seemed to enjoy using them...
>>46345208
I'd separate out the destroyers into different squads. I'd also drop the spyder upgrades to get an invun on your lord.
>>46345683
Most Mechanicus-aligned Knight Houses use their Forge World allies colors.
>>46345571
True, but not by the Imperials.
>>46345686
They're a really fun unit but yeah they can only do so much even with all the fantastic stuff they have. Did he not have the FNP guy with them or something? They're one of those units you need to put points into to get anything out of them.
Another weird thing I've seen people use them for is AA, you bring a min squad and an ADL. Then when they turn up have them man a quad gun, spraying out ignores cover shells into the air on turn 3+.
>>46345722
>tfw emperor abby exterminates all tau life within 21 hours of becoming emperor
the hero the imperium needs
>>46345735
I don't think LotD have a FnP guy.
>>46345757
their one relic is a fnp thing their sarge can take
>>46345754
>Abby gets into Tau space, sees Stormsurge and falls in love. Shortly thereafter both the realspace and warp is conquered by wierd armless machines.
>>46345208
If you have never build a Ghostarc, i suggest buying only 1, they are a real pain to build. (Tip: Paint the individual stages before glueing it together)
I wouls put the heavy destroyer alone, because you want it to fire at heavier targets, while the destroyers are more about killing softer targets.
Destroyer Lord goes with the Wraiths? Might work but slows them down a bit.
>>46345757
They have a unique relic that gives them FNP that gets better as they scare people.
>>46345784
>armless machines with open cockpits
>conquering anything
>>46345784
>age of abbydon is just a bunch of armless gundam knock-offs to appeal to the weeb audience
id bet on this 2bh
>>46345623
IA13 gives you the option for Hereteks in the Renegade and Heretics Army
(Its just a 6+FNP for guardsmen...+something like an enginseer as Commander, but still)
>>46345817
Well they were plenty enought to stop Imperial crusade. Then again, Imperials in charge of succeeding.
>>46345817
The single most powerful asset in the galaxy is a space traffic controller. Think on that.
>>46345783
>>46345811
Oh, didn't know that. Cool.
>>46344673
>>46344673
The tau empire is way too big, it should be toned down, everything else looks fine, I'm not sure if ultramarines though.
>>46345785
You can abuse coherency to get a D-lord to keep up with wraiths pretty easily.
>>46345845
what makes you think I was talking about the stormsurge?
wait a second, are legion of the damned or sternguard the loyalist version of 1k sons?
>>46345873
Neither.
>>46345873
both of those units actually have a use, so not really.
>:^)
>>46345873
Mechanically legion of the damned work more like 1k sons than anything else imperial, but they still don't have psychic support or fancy bolt rounds. You still have that niche at least.
>>46345868
What makes you think I was talking about Damocles?
>>46345873
One Thousand Sons are the loyalist version of One Thousand Sons.
You should instead ask what the loyalist version of Space Wolves is.
>>46345873
Sternguard are much more flexible.
I think that fluff wise Legion of the Damned is closer to plague marines than rubric marines
Question. This is a Damonkin formation. Would I be able to run it with daemons, seeing as how they both use the same models?
>>46345903
imperial crusade gave it away
Remember that ol 'armless is the one doing the crusading, not his bullies.
>>46345917
It wouldn't be able to take anything from the daemon's codex, but you can still use the formation.
Can anyone attest to epidemius's usefulness? Even in a tallyband hes only buffing his unit(6' bubble is a joke) and while you can rack up the buffs with plegm bombardment the fact that hes stuck with a shitty loci means youre forced to take an additional herald for the actually useful FNP
>>46345917
No, you have to use the matching army for the formation. The symbol for that formation is KDK so it's KDK only unless it has italics in the rules saying it may also be taken in other armies.
Same way Blood Angels may not use vanilla formations like Skyhammer, but CAN use vanilla units like Contemptors because it has text saying it may be taken in other marine codexes.
>>46345930
So obviously I couldn't, say, roll the WL trait, but the rules (everything getting Counter-Attack, -2 on fear checks) still applies?
>>46345917
it is a daemonkin formation, not a daemon formation, but you can take it anyway
You can any number of formations and detachments in a battleforged army, and they do not all have to be from the same faction
As it happens, Daemonkin and Daemons are Battle Brothers, so there is no penalty for having a formation of Daemonkin fighting alongside formations or detachments of daemons.
>>46345948
If you make your Warlord from the formation, you will be a KDK army with KDK warlord traits. If you stick with your Daemons army and use your Daemon Warlord, you will be a regular Daemon army like usual, but with the Charnel Cohort also included in your army as a KDK detachment.
Stop thinking about your army as one thing. It's no longer like that. Each army is now multiple mini armies with the warlord determining the main detachment.
>>46345834
I bet he turns tau-tech into cute little demon machines:
So a fusion of a Stormsurge and a defiler
(2min in MS-Paint, I am sure some of you could do better)
TAKE MY MONEY
>>46345965
>I've seen the face of God and it was weeping
>>46345965
no dinobots, no deal
>>46345965
>walker/creature half-breed
>>46345965
looks better than the skitarii thing
>>46345991
A chariot, silly. Can't you see that.
>>46345934
epidemius was OP as fuck in the last book so he's been taken down a few pegs, stack the buffs on princes or beasts/plague drones to see the deaths stack
>>46345898
they're a fun unit at least, mine is painted up pretty well and they do their job of being slightly tough well enough for me
>>46345965
yes yes yes
>>46345996
I actually like the skitarii battle crab better than the chaos battle crab
>>46345899
>Mechanically legion of the damned work more like 1k sons than anything else imperial, but they still don't have psychic support or fancy bolt rounds. You still have that niche at least.
>new LotD codex comes out
>with torrents of bolts with fiery vengeance the LotD hunt the traitors and cut trough ceramite with ease
>ap 3 ignore cover salvo 3/4 on relentless units
I can see it as clear as day.
I picked up 2000 points of both guard and crons for 60 bucks. The models are pretty badly painted, unfinished, etc. I plan on redoing them. One of my crons, metal C'tan the Nighbringer, is missing an arm. What could I do to remedy this?
>>46346006
but can your battle crab rape another walker?
also what came first in the fluff?
>>46346020
i could see that happening though curiously their book is pretty old at this point
>>46346025
some wire and kneadatite if you are feeling bold
bit sellers on ebay if you are not
>>46345907
>implying the space wolves aren't loyalists on every scenario
>Painted a bunch of dark eldar when they got their near perfect 5th edition book
>Never got a single game in with them
>Want to play them again but I'm too much of a competitive dickhead so can't resist the urge to sprinkle Eldar units into it as allies
It's just so easy, throw some scatbikes and warp spiders in there and games just become easier, and people can't talk shit about my army because my dark eldars are some of my better painted models
>>46346025
either search the various bitsellers and ebay for a spare or model something with greenstuff.
(Or make it look like it was just shot off, so only something dripping out or a small cloud where the arm once was)
>>46346035
>but can your battle crab rape another walker?
maybe in the fluff, but good luck getting it therebut I play CSM anyway. Skitarii have cool models but I love My Dudes too much to ever abandon them.
>>46346045
learn to play and win with solely dark eldar
then you will earn the right to throw in cheesy horseshit
allied Eldar is the promised land after your trials of playing pure DE
>>46346006
but it doesnt even have a head
>>46346045
I have a small dark eldar army. They are definitely my favourite to play with but I don't win many games
>>46346045
quick someone post that florida player who won a tournament with a pure dark eldar list
>>46346060
On the tabletop, the dreadnaught strikes first and has 4 attacks (5 if he charged), hitting on 3+ with his S10..........
>>46346045
You never played 5th dark eldar despite having the army? That's like missing out on csm 3.5. A damn shame but I hear dark eldar can still do good work. Hell in my last doubles game the dark eldar (allied with craftworld eldar) was doing alright and dousing the shit out of my mono nurgle incursion buddy with heaps of poison shots.
>>46346060
>>46346086
challenge accepted
>>46346086
>implying I don't use a trio of deep striking DV Dancing helbrutes
>>46346006
The skitarii dunewalker looks almost unfinished desu, the main body of the walker looks so plain and cube-like that is clashes with everything else in the faction.
I think I'll convert mine to have a giant maw for my dark mechanicus army
>>46346105
Converted my own Baron and Duke Sliscus too, but I was busy with school at the time so I couldn't get any more models, so I stuck with myLong fang spam space wolves
>>46346126
you know, the reason I don't play skitarii is in part because I would want about of the ostrich lance guys jousting around the table, but I heard they are actually terrible
Rolled 3, 3, 4, 5 = 15 (4d6)
>>46346086
Rollin for attack (neither has charged, its fairer that way....)
Rolled 4, 1, 3, 4 = 12 (4d6)
>>46346159
4 hits
And now to turn it to scrap
glance on 2
pen on 3+
>>46346154
>ostrich lance guys
they arent *that* bad
certainly not as power choice, but they arent terrible, and tear most tanks apart incredibly easily if they make combat, and they certainly have the tools to do so, moving 9" and whatnot
Rolled 5, 4, 2 = 11 (3d6)
>>46346179
Vehicle damage (Remember your invul!) Also Dreadnaught CCW is AP2 IIRC
>>46346045
I love Warp Spiders. They're my favourite unit in 40K.
I don't even know if they're good (I don't play Eldar). I just love Warp Spiders. I have a set of them just because.
>>46346187
but can you take enough of them to matter?
Also the aztec electro ravers have cool models too, but they seem like a real problem unit unless you can get them a ride from an ally.
>>46346154
>>46346187
They kick wholesale ass with Jezzails
>>46346154
They can fuck shit up when taken in a squadron because they are so cheap in points (not in cash), they move super fast since they can move, run and charge an extra 3', have 5+ cover all the time, and can pour out load of wounds but they are not marine killers due to AP-. Theoretically they should be quite good against xeno armies because they usually have low toughness, worse armor saves, and lack of krak grenade
>>46346238
Seriously man, radium jezzails. 6 To Wound causes an extra 2 Wounds, and they're all AP2 thanks to the Sniper rule. It's just evil.
>>46345357
The map is only 2d when the galaxy is really 3d. In 40k reality the tau systems are much smaller and further away than can be realistically depicted on a 2d map, similar to how maps of earth are always inaccurate as well. The ultramarines haven't destroyed the Tau because in most of the fluff about the Ultramarines the tau are not viewed as an urgent threat, especially when compared to enemies such as chaos and the nids.
>>46346317
The wording of the rule says "a To Wound roll of 6 causes 2 wounds on the target unit", which means a 6 only gives you 1 extra wound, which is okay I suppose because both of those wounds are AP2 and precision shots
>>46346390
Precision shots are on the to hit roll.
>>46344714
No.
Dreadnought are the only vehicles that benefit from chapter tacs
>>46345446
But Ultima sagmentum is the one nearest the Tau.
>chicken walkers herding baddies around slaying vehicles and trash
>while and inquisitor drives three chimera fulls of henchmen loaded with ap3 into the MEQ
>naturally the leader of the vanguard must be given a tuning fork
this sounds like it could be fun
psa
>>46345079
I play sisters
>>46346512
Hey at least is free postage, I'm sorry you have to pay premium for this Australian bro.
So I'm looking at this black legion relic "The Eye of Night" and it's the 2nd hand chaos version of the orbital barrage that chapter masters get for free. I'm not sure if a single use infinite range s5 ap4 large blast (d3 haywire hits against vehicles) that ignores cover is worth 75 points.
>>46346595
>I'm not sure paying a bunch of points for something space marines get for free is worth it
that could be said of the entire CSM codex
>>46346595
D3 automatic penetrating hits against vehicles, m8. And its scatter gets reduced by BS, unlike the orbital bombardment. It being worth it depends on how much you value deleting most vehicles in one shot.
>>46346615
chapter master upgrade isn't free, man
>>46346595
>I'm not sure if a single use infinite range s5 ap4 large blast (d3 haywire hits against vehicles) that ignores cover is worth 75 points.
Orbital Bombardment is S10 AP1 bro.
75 points also gets C:SM a Damocles Rhino HQ addition which is a Rhino with re-rolls to reserve and an additional bombardment.
>>46346512
For what reason?
It's AU$55 on the main site.
Also to break up the shit posting a bit:
Australians make an insane amount of money relative to the rest of the world because the government sets up bartering committees for wages for pretty much every industry (essentially everybody has a union but a little more limited). Because of this everything costs a asshat and half because that guy at the counter makes $25/hr and the company needs to break a profit. Rent is almost a thousand dollars a month for a one bedroom apartment in a crack stack building. The models are actually relatively cheap when you consider a lot of other entertainment outlets cost a lot more (a video game brand new is almost $100 or more and beer costs around $15 for a six pack).
t. an American who splits his time between both countries.
Also Australia is filled with limp wristed liberals and I don't intend to go back for at least a decade.
>>46346615
Oh boy! Is it time yet? Time for the npc-faction bitching?
>>46346729
>Rent is almost a thousand dollars a month for a one bedroom apartment in a crack stack building.
Same here, except I'm in the US and minimum wage is $9. Which is why I hate AU crybabbies.
>>46346707
You make a compelling argument.
>>46346754
Also the eye of night ignores cover, which can sometimes be relevant. It's pricey, but specifically with regards to pooping on vehicles, it's better than the orbital strike.
>>46346746
Live somewhere not fucking retarded. I live in a working class neighborhood in Minnesota and pay about $600/mo. after utilities and web for full bath, master bedroom, full kitchen, and living room/dining room thing.
Also $9/hr was completely livable except now we have to pay an extra fucking $200 a month for Obamacare.
>>46346769
>not linking to the moronic faglord who started this tangent
>>>/out/
>>46346769
Perfectly fine conversation. Especially if you consider the massive amount of Aus shitposting about prices. The more people get exposed to their lies the more likely we can hate this meme out.
>>46346786
>Live somewhere not fucking retarded
>nations' top major metropolitan cities with booming job markets
>compared to bumfuck hillbilly nowhere
No thanks. There's a reason so many people flock to these places despite the high rent, which drives the rent up even more as housing becomes scarcer.
>>46346802
>he doesn't want a three hour commute
>>46346793
all I did was post a picture of a rhino kit being sold for 3x the retail price here
I didn't say shit about the prices we pay here
>>46346802
the true worst is vancouver
we have a gorillion fucking chinese investors buying up property like its going out of style
literally no house that isnt a crack den costs less than a million, and even then....
>>46346813
That actually sounds nice since I bought a coupe.
>>46346802
There's small cities with jobs abound. Literally in every field from banking to automotive to IT. There's even room to start businesses and 5 FLGS' just within the city limits, each with a different focus and they do it well.
>>46346813
>implying I commute to the Twin Shitties.
St. Cloud is the cat's pajamas.
>>46346825
Holy shit, same story here.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/10/23/rotting-shack-sells-400000-san-francisco/
I mean, my situation is okay, but it's fucking retarded for people looking for a place to, you know, live with a roof over their head. And 1% property tax amounts to $10,000 a year since housing is minimum $750,000 to $1,000,000.
>>46346846
Dude, San Fran is a fucking shit hole that wants to be a city-state so badly.
>>46346799
>Perfectly fine conversation
>Derails entire thread
>>46346870
Like 4am 40k generals are good.
All that are up are grognards and Aussies.
>>46346846
i mean, its just retarded
i catch myself looking at apartments and thinking that 350k for a 2 bedroom 1 bath is a good deal
something needs to be done, because i sure as hell dont want to have to leave my home city because the government here refuses to restrict foreign investment and the price gouging in the housing market
bubble collapse better happen soon
china
man
>>46346858
The last gun store closed down so I can't even go on a mass Liberal shooting spree.
>>46346890
>i catch myself looking at apartments and thinking that 350k for a 2 bedroom 1 bath is a good deal
That is a good deal though. This isn't the 80's, you can't get a house for that low anymore unless you live in Detroit.
>>46346729
Live here a little longer and you might find the "making insane money" and "costing asshats" don't quite match up. $25 an hour SOUNDS like great money, but like you said, AAA video games are $90 on launch and beer is $15-20 for a six pack, you pay doesn't go very far. If you make less than $20 an hour here you can pull stupid 10 hour days and still fall below the poverty line.
>$55 is vaguely reasonable for models in our economy
>it's like category B or C on GW's price chart, and a basic Troops choice box is $65
>waa waa my $9 burger flipping job doesnt pay me enough guise
poorfags fuck off or ill replace your jobs with a robot 2bh
>>46346910
It's like the rest of the world wanting pay raises refuses to even look at you guys.
>I make $30/hr!
>I pay $17 for a trip to Maccas for one.
There is an oddity though in the pricing in that a lot of stuff is priced identical to the US but these products are usually made off shore in China or something. Like disposable facial razors.
Regardless, there's literally no difference between here and there in pay if you factor in the cost of living, thankfully when I go down there I rent the shittiest place ever, keep a cricket bat near my bed, and take advantage of the almost 0.8:1 to exchange rate (though it's getting worse lately).
>>46346946
I'd eat robot burgers. They would be able to cook medium rare perfectly, every time too with maximum juiciness.
MAKE IT HAPPEN, ENGINEERING NERDS
>>46346957
In regards to things like Made in China goods or online distributed software, I'm pretty sure it's like 25% shipping costs, 25% AU import taxing, and 50% fuck you Australia.
>>46347008
>medium rare burger
you came from /ck/ specifically to get me mad, didnt you
>>46346946
>I WANT $15/HR!
>I AM FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!
How do these people live with this ideological hypocrisy?
>>46347017
Opperating a business, even just selling things and doing everything else overseas, is still very expensive. The 50% fuck you Aus is really "Our money is relatively worthless because we make so much of it".
Now, you might say "but then why is the exchange rate pretty solid?". It's because Aus does not do a terrible amount of international trade so other countries do not posses as much of it, this is changing though. Soon the AUD will be like the Peso.
>>46347051
>How do these people live with this ideological hypocrisy?
I'm pretty sure liberals and SJW are simply unaware of their own ignorance and hypocrisy.
>>46347008
medium rare is what you order when you want some blood but don't trust the chef with doing a good rare meat
If a theoretically perfect robot fry cook existed, you would always get rare, because it wouldn't fuck it up.
>>46347030
Yes.
>>46347051
>How do these people live with this ideological hypocrisy?
they are retarded, i assume they live by licking doorknobs and eating dustbunnies.
cant wait until we turn all the plebs into servitors 2bh
![2108141[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/thbIESb.jpg "2108141[1].jpg")
>>46347030
>>46347075
>the digital automated fast food menu has arranged the buttons in such a way that the rare options are right next to the well done options
>many customers accidentally press well done
>the robots were not programmed to undo the assembly line procedure
>>46346957
US cost of living is about 10% cheaper. It's not quite that simple because our price variation is a lot greater, as you said we get $2 Chinese disposable razors, but there are also $40 ones. You can get snout and asshole sausages for $2, but a packet of not-shit mince will set you back $10, premium stuff even more so.
>tl;dr our cheap shit is CHEAP, but 'good' stuff is expensive and treading the line of feasibility
Part of our obesity epidemic is because shit food or takeaway is cheap, and real fresh food isn't affordable for a lot of people.
>>46347017
>>46347051
Again, there are legit reasons like our inflated dollar and business expenses, but actual accountants have looked into this shit and the numbers don't quite match up. It varies tremendously but the average is around +20% because Fuck You, Australia.
>>46346946
>>46347051
>How do these people live with this ideological hypocrisy?
I honestly don't know. I work at a McDonald's and I make $9hr, and I don't get so butthurt over what I make. And even then, I'm in line for a dollar and a half promotion quite honestly because I show up on time for all my shifts. It isn't that difficult to make more money if you want to, these fucktards just don't want to put in the work in the first place.
>>46344673
Is he center of the galaxy even habitable?
Are there black holes in the 40k universe?
Are black holes and the warp are inter linked?
>>46345873
fluff wise I bet LotD has some connections to the Alpha Legion since they're so both so spooky and warpy and mysterious.
>>46347284
They're the surviving members of the fire hawks and flame falcons chapters mixed with warp and geneseed fuckery. Alpha Legion don't really deal with actual chaos /that/ much, if they did they no doubt would have fallen to tzeentch long ago.
>>46344673
I'd love to see the version where Necron dynasties, ork-zones, warp rifts, eldar systems and 2spooky4me areas are marked out, just to show how the Imperial status as the masters of the galaxy would be debunked.
>>46347519
This one?
>>46347532
No!~
This one.
>>46344673
That last star on the bottom right.
Repentance.
Is there any info on that system?I guess it's all food for the tyranids now
>>46345873
> Thousand Sons
Pissed off sorcerers and sand who wants revenge after being betrayed by the Emps and Russ.
> Legion of the Damned
Pissed off time traveling ghost marines from an alternate universe where shit is even worse and whacked out come to prevent that from happening even if they get erased from the timeline and multiverse.
>>46347051
>How do these people live with this ideological hypocrisy?
They don't have ideology. They support what lets them work less and earn more.
>>46346946
>wanting to pay for stuff
>ever
>being a richfag
>ever
>>46346729
Our cost is living is fucking insane, you'd have to be doublely fucking insane to deny it. Aussie dollar isn't worth anything in the grand scheme of things, the country is fucked. Stay in the US
>>46347641
Australia's economy is actually in a very strong place and has the potential to keep expanding actually
that said, keep it 40k please
>mfw I make 50€/hour
>mfw i only work 3-4 hours a week
>>46347571
>sand who wants revenge
Well now I know what I'm explaining Thousand Sons as from now on.
>>46347677
Stop sucking cocks.
>>46347679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xeGE_5kSI0
>>46347641
>>46347653
>>46347677
Here's a fun idea, everyone post your job, nationality and how many hours they'd have to work to afford a basic 10-man box of Marines. If you're some hyper-qualified professional making gazillions, or poor as fuck, that's cool, I just don't want some essay on your life.
>Australian
>Student, working part time in engineering
>2 hours, 42 minutes
>>46347578
Why work at all.
Just move imaginary money back and fourth for people and charge them 1%.
>>46347708
Jewish child brothel owner
Work is for goys
>>46347708
American
Dishwasher
~6 hours
>>46347708
>Danish
>Unskilled labour.
>2 hour 15 minutes
>>46347708
>working
>not just choosing to be born into wealth
kek stupid pleb
>>46347708
Police Officer
Something around three hours unless I'm on overtime
>>46347765
Oh and Im Clapistani
What's the point of battles >500 pts?
Just shooting at each other, 20 meters away, with no place to maneuver
>>46347708
Before or after Tax?
>>46347708
>Italian
>Work in a LGS/gaming place
>4 hours for full price TacBut I have a 46% discount on GW stuff, so it's 2 hours
>>46347708
> American
> Student/Walmart Unloader
> 4 Hours
>>46347708
>American
>Student, working part time as a waiter
>2 hours on averagealthough with spring break going on right now, less than an hour
>>46347782
>Italian
>4 Hours work
So a working week.
>>46347798
Italians work far more hours than average in Europe, mostly because we need overtime to survive and our working laws are old as shit.
>>46347830
Yeah I know.
Obligatory rip on Mediterranean's.
>Do you know what really lies beyond the veil?
>Can you conceive of what the warp really is?
>Us.
>It is us. The truth is that there is nothing in this galaxy but us. It is our emotions, our shadows, our hates and lusts and disgusts that lie in wait on the other side of reality. That’s all. Every thought, every memory, every dream, every nightmare that any of us have ever had.
>The Gods exist because we gave birth to them. They are our own vileness and fury and cruelty given form, imbued with divinity because we cannot conceive of anything so powerful without giving it a name. The Primordial Truth. The Pantheon of Chaos Undivided. The Ruinous Powers. The ‘Dark Gods’... And, forgive me, I can barely speak that last name without forcing my scribe, the patient and diligent servitor, to record nothing but breathy laughter for several moments.
-Iskander Khayon
What was the last? Why would it have him giggling if he spoke it?
>>46347781
That's a good point. I'd say after, but I didn't factor it into my own calc and I'm unsure if other anons did or not, damn.
>INB4 LaughingGreeks.png
>>46347708
>German
>In Training to become an electronics technician
>9 Hours
And I get plenty more than what is standard as trainee income.
>>46347864
"The Dark Gods". Because he says 'that' last name not 'the' last name it's something he already said, not is yet to say.
>>46347771
I think 500pt battles would be a lot of fun if you went cover-heavy and extended the game to like 8-10 turns, turning it into a skirmish where tactical movement becomes key because you don't have to rush headlong at the enemy.
>>46347879
Ahh...now that got me feeling silly. An odd thing for a Chaos Sorcerer to think.
>>46347878
Goddamn, I know that feeling from being a schmuck grocery bagger. Question, are GW minis expensive in your economy compared to other consumer goods, or is trainee pay utter shit, or a bit of both?
>>46347833
Italy is a bullshit country.
I'm lucky that i live in the far north-east of Italy, the "rich, organize and culturally developed" part of Italy.
Which is the same to say we are like average Europeans.
The rest of this freaking country is full of troglodytes and the real, literally, plebs.
Not the plebs of 4chan's memes.
The REAL plebs. You have no freaking idea.
There are people from the south that can barely read and write. I'm not even exaggerating.
Those are the lazy people that vote, waste tax money and travel to other countries, and so give Italians the bad name we kind of deserve at this point.
>>46347873
>>46347744
With tax it's 4,3 hours.
After the deduction.
>>46347896
Whilst this anon is partially right, northern Italians are smug pricks that look down on country folk. There are some real ass-backwards villages full of screwheads, but most country towns are farm communities that look after each other, work hard enough and can cook food like you wouldn't believe.
>>46347915
>>46347896
Sounds like every nothies/southies argument anywhere on earth.
Northies are snobs with their fancy indoor plumbing, southies are yokels who can cook.
>>46347550
>tfw this will only increase as more tombworlds come online.
>>46347915
Seeing as we're going completely off topic, it's entertaining to someone from the UK, where the South looks down on the North for being less cultured (and the North looks down on the South for being soft as fuck and having no proper chippies).
>>46347893
My trainee pay is top tier but only because I was lucky and found a company that pays that much.
And yes GW is expensive, especially since there is still a noticeable wage gap between West and East Germany.
I already get much more than others but I still get less pay than a trainee in West Germany.
>>46347934
>everywhere on earth
It's backwards in India, North are the yokel farm towns that make curries that could strip paint, all the cities are in the South and make delicate seafood curries.
Australia it's sideways-ish; Victoria and South Australia are like food mecca even for the rest of the world, meanwhile Darwin cuisine is a carton of VB behind a water tank.
Africa is all over the goddamn place, and I don't even mean in the lolnofood shitposting kind of way.
Ordered. Can't wait to paint that shit
>>46346946
>mfw I work for a design and engineering company
>mfw we worked on some of the first self-checkouts
>mfw I encourage all the "waaah I want $15 an hour" minimum wage faggots since it means I will get paid to replace them
>>46347008
>MAKE IT HAPPEN, ENGINEERING NERDS
As soon as someone pays me too I will
>>46347708
>British
>design engineer
>45mins or so
>>46347915
>northern Italians are smug pricks that look down on country folk.
Can you blame us?
Everytime I travel people look at me like I'm some kind of criminal.
And everytime I need to explain that no, I'm not the Pizza, Mafia, Mandolino kind of Italian, I'm the one that live between mountains, cold and industries.
Yes, you cook well and your people is nicer that ours. But we are not like you.
We weren't even Italians less than a century ago, and some of us still feels like we don't belong to this country.
But we are few, and while we make so much more money that your people, our money is taken away from us, and we have no real power to decide how we want to live, and that's the worst part.
>>46347708
>AMERICAN
>Pizza delivery
>Depending on the day, 1.5 hours to 2.
>>46347958
What?!?!?!
India is literally the same, if not more extreme. The South literally is toilet witch territory.
>>46347959
Great deal. Better post it in the WIP gen.
>>46347976
>we are not like you
I'm actually Australian and married into a family of Sicilians, but speaking Sicilian dialect while travelling in Venice didn't exactly make us popular.
>>46347886
That's why I only play 1-page kill team
>>46348016
>toilet witch territory
Oh shit, you're right, I nearly forgot about the fishing villages in the far South.
>>46347708
well about to be in the military, so it'll be about 4 hours per box, not like i'll ever be able to buy/paint/play while in though. Plus side is I won't have a rent to pay or pay for the mess hall food for the first 3 years or so...
>>46347915
KILL
THE
SOUTHERN
So i just ordered a unit of wulfen at my local store, i have no plans on getting their rules as the bundle is an overpriced piece of shit, but i do like the new models. I had thought building them with thunderhammer/stormshield and have a guy with frostblades act as the leader seeing as the swankicking pose of the actuall leader looks like complete ass.... howeveras im not finding any pictures of the wulfen built with more than one or two hammers anywhere - id love to see their poses with them. Anyone got a link to the manual or any pics of all of them using th/ss? Much appreciated!
>>46348024
Yeah, that was not clever, kek.
And we are the ones that make fun of Venetians.
You should see our land if you haven't already.
All the cities have castles and walls, plenty of medieval and pagan festivals, getting beaten by the Krampus in december since you were a kid.
All the fun stuff.
>>46347708
>pasta nigger mandolino
>mantainer in a minihydro powerplant
>70 hours
>>46348081
do you mean 70 minutes?
>>46348091
no, hours i get paid 0.50 euro per hour
>>46348099
wtf thats slave labor man...
>>46347708
>UK
>technical writer
>2h12min
>>46348120
Slaves don't get paid at all.
>>46348120
better than no job at all
>>46347889
Eh, he's OG Thousand Sons, which means that he originally fought to spread the Imperial Truth and sought to master the powers of the Empyrean. It would make sense that he would have a rather dim view of the more pious views on Chaos.
>>46347708
Czech
Game developer
5 hours
>>46347770
how many urban gentlemen have you shot
