Yesterday's thread
>>46310130
The pastebin with the stats, techs and lore - anything else you wanna know, just ask!
http://pastebin.com/t7gWa2pa
>Population:8 200 000 (76% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit)
>Colonials: 150 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: High
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
Previously: The colonisation of the Western Continent has continued. As we've created many new settlements, the kaichou have finished their conquest of the southern darkskin tribes. The sashki tribes, sandwiched between the irokni and Sunset Alliance, fled with our help and settled far away, in the Great Plains.
Back in the home continent, the Pajit Empire has begun conquering the rich Prizzid Principalities, host of the last spire on the continent. Kayans, the largest of the city-states of that confederacy, shall soon fall to imperial forces.
>>46330975
N. Send a military force to Kayans. Even if it's only a small force in the hundreds we should partake and observe in the destruction of the last spire.
>>46331063
Seconding.
H. Inspire miners to more accurately examine the minerals they obtain. Maybe some hold special properties...
Rolled 95 (1d100)
ALL HAIL OYSTERIOUS
dont mind me
>>46331181
Dang son, that's a good roll. FYI, there MIGHT be a post tonight. No promises. I've been trying to find a spot all week.
Rolled 92 (1d100)
i am shitposting before going to bed, have a nice thread if so.
>>46331223
Holy cow, your shitpost rolls are on fire!
Rolled 42 (1d100)
>>46331286
Brother, may I introduce our savior and Lord, OYSTERIOUS?
Rolled 8 (1d100)
A special detachment of officers, bodyguards and specialists has been sent to Kayans. When they arrived, the walls had already been breached and emperor Ashnu II, now an older man, was preparing his forces for an assault.
Our party, 60 men in total, arrived near the emperor's camp and were stopped by well-armed horsemen - our arrival was noticed early on.
By the emperor's orders, our envoys were not allowed to approach the front lines and observe "as a matter of security".
There could be any number of reasons for this, but the most likely reason seems to be some military secrets the pajit do not wish to divulge. While our relationships had improved during the reign of Bahmamu and the war against the Hassein Sultanate, we are not formally allies.
A.Talk with the emperor
B.Return home
C.Try to sneak by their lines to observe
Rolled 47 (1d100)
>>46331417
C.Try to sneak by their lines to observe
roll for success analysis
>>46331447
the votes reach a consensus, after which I do the rolls. In a large battle the players do several rolls in total during the various phases(for instance, 1st reply determines our left flank's performance)
For now, it's voting
Lets talk it out.
>>46331417
>A.Talk with the emperor
Rolled 36 (1d100)
We've asked to be escorted to the emperor's tent, where we would try to negotiate with him and convince him to let us observe
Rolled 31 (1d100)
It seems the assault is already beginning - the emperor himself sits atop his royal war elephant. He says he will allow us to inspect the city and the spire, but only after the battle is over and once we are invited.
>>46331826
>but only after the battle is over
Time to sneak in and check out the spire before the pajitans can seize its secrets for their own nefarious purposes.
>>46331826
Investigate this "war elephant" tactic. We could do some shopping while we're here.
>>46331931
I'm game for busting out the credit card on some elephants. It's Hannibal time.
>>46331960
Thirded.
>>46331902
>>46331931
There's no reason I can see why we can't do both.
By the end of the day, the city's rulers have surrendered. On the next noon, we are invited to inspect Kayans.
The pajit seem to have some military secrets they are keeping from us, but judging by the damages, we can be sure that they have been investing in their own artillery and firearms development. The quality of the imperial troops has also increased since the First Spiral War and they display professionalism and discipline.
Kayans had mighty walls and towers, but in this age of cannon it hardly mattered. The prizzid utilized mercenaries from various races - darkskin slave-soldiers from Jamatun, Krushid archers, sigbru warriors and even fighters from a race we'd had almost no interactions with before - the spice islanders of the Barniju archipelago in the east.
Anything particulary useful to be found in the spire, the pajit have already taken away. We confirm that it is structurally identical - one to one - with all other spires we've encountered, both inside and out. From what the emperor said, his men found stockpiles of gold, valuable items and artifacts, maps and vast records of trade deals, census data and such. The only person who has found inside was the caretaker, a crazed hibibi man raving about the masters and how "You shall all suffer and your own hubris shall be your undoing".
"With this the threat of the spires and the Organisation has been wiped off. These "Masters" are a guild of merchants who have either fled or been killed by now so it's all over now." says the emperor.
We've learned of the archipelago in the east from the spice islanders living in Kayans. It is of a tropical climate and well populated, but has no single governing structure as various kingdoms vie for control over the islands and their resources. They export spices, slaves and exotic foods to the pajit, prizzid, jamatun and ramki.
Kayans has now fallen to the Pajit and the army shall continue its march north, though they expect the remaining city-states may surrender on their own.
>Population:8 200 000 (76% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit)
>Colonials: 150 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: High
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
>>46332353
>H.Research science
>>46332353
>D.Settle new lands - western continent
>>46332353
What about our military purchase we voted on?
Oh well, lets H it up with improved fishing techniques.
>>46332431
Supporting
Current state of the western continent, for reference
>>46332353
>D. Settle New lands
>>46332495
I support science, but just out of curiosity OP, what's the wildlife of the West?
Also OP can we make it known that we have laid claim to all land along the river and the northern coast line for future expansion? I dont wanna get snubed by the chinks again.
What happened to our elephants? Did we not vote for that?
>>46332547
The inroki, sashki and some of the darkskins had domesticated the flightless bird called turkey, used for its meat, feathers and eggs. Beavers are typical for the islands of Beaver Dam, Richfort and the temperate forests on the continent's northern parts.
In the pacharnati empire, the locals rely on domesticated llamas, alpacas as well as some familiar animals such as cows and goats.
We found no horses here at the time of our arrival, though by now some specimens have been introduced to the natives.
Among plantlife, we've been introduced to vanilla, pumpkin and various new sorts of known crops and plants.
>>46332431
>>46332442
>>46332488
What scientific advancements should we aim for?
A.Mechanics and tools
B.Metallurgy
C.Medicine
D.Chemistry and gunpowder
E.Academic insitutions and unknown areas of natural science
>>46332769
>C. Medicine
>>46332769
>D.Chemistry and gunpowder
>>46332769
Give me the D man.
>>46332769
D.Chemistry and gunpowder
Rolled 52 (1d100)
We've developed new standardized munitions for our artillery and muskets, whose designs have somewhat improved over time and with use. Experiments in design have also produced some more exotic designs which have not been accepted for military uses at their present level.
We've also developed hand grenades. which are useful in certain situations to our troops.
>Population:8 300 000 (76% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit)
>Colonials: 150 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: High
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
Rolling for international development(very high would be good for us, very low would be bad, middle sums would be sort of neutral)
>>46333511
>A
go around the south of the new continent so we can settle there before kaichou claims it all
>>46333511
>F. Architecture
>>46333511
>>46333548
A. Let's go deeper into the planes and along the mountains, see what we can see.
The city-state of Pizhar, the weakest in terms of military among the prizzid, has surrendered to the Pajit Empire. The more militaristic Atraj still resists, though.
>>46333548
Seconding.
>>46333548
This
>>46333511
>>46333601
>L. Diplomacy
Vassalize the Atraj pronto, they'll be a useful asset for our future rematch with the Pajit.
>>46333548
Supporting this. Place a base there too.
>>46333656
no, we should stop doing it like this, it's stupid and gonna bite us in the ass sooner or later.
>>46333656
>>46333724
+2
Who knows what secrets the Prizid have that could prove useful for us?
>>46333776
>>46333656
>>46333724
you might wanna consider that the pajit is gonna be royally pissed of and might declare war on us if you swoop in and support them. also you are forgetting they had a fucking spire so we cant really trust them.
>>46333717
The pajitans have been treating us coldly lately and increasing their military spending, their planning something fiendish. According to my sources they have even aquired WMD (gunpowder and such)
>>46333819
>you are forgetting they had a fucking spire so we cant really trust them.
So did the pajitans.
>>46333819
Not support. Vassalize in the European sense of the word. That is curbstomping them into the ground until they agree to either suck our dicks or die. Usually the former.
>>46333860
>they're planning something fiendish
and you wanna give them a reason to attack us before we're ready?
>So did the pajitans.
until we fucked them up and replaced their emperor.
>>46333868
it will be difficult to rule them when they are so cut off from the rest of our empire.
my fellow councilmen, reconsider this until we have taken the necessary precautions and improved our military tech.
>>46333960
I agree, we should heavily invest into Military Tech before doing anything dangerous I.e war, and even then, we must be careful.
(( I know this from Pure experience, I used to play this exact same Civ game on /pol/ a while ago, we accidentally Mustard Gassed our own people, causing a revolution, which destroyed our empire. ))
We've extensively explored the coastlines of the western continent and the great plains. We've discovered another civilization belonging to the inroki race, the michiki. They are also farmers and herders, a loose confederacy which has formed to defend from pacharnati incursions coming from the north.
>Population:8 300 000 (76% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit)
>Colonials: 150 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: High
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
>>46334038
>G. Improve Military
If we want to fight the Pajit, we'll need it.
...Or, or, or, and this is just a suggestion; we DON'T aggravate the one of the other two large powers we know of capable of threatening us?
I would point out if you want war that we can conquer something in the new world! Say the large Aztec/Mayan-can't-remember-which kingdom? Or the last of the native american indians whom are not under our control
>>46334011
Ah, yes, the Trumpic Empire.
How we blatantly let the Serbians get destroyed by the Turks was just beautiful.
But, in all honesty, the whole "everything going to shit" thing was just OP wanting to finish the game as it had been going for too long alredy,
Plus, he was a fucking leaf.
>>46334038
I'll assume that the empty jungles in the south are inhabited by Darkskin and less civilized Redskin tribes, correct?
>>46334038
>G.Improve military
>>46334038
settle the south coast by the hills.
>D
Set up colonies on the southern shore.
>>46334064
I was actually one of the OPs on it, But the Trumpic Empire was Ebin Memes incarnate, The Turks literally never gave up. I wish we could still do it, Risk threads are allowed on there, but not Civ threads.
>>46334060
Not a bad idea in my opinion, we can expand our sphere of influence to this new world, and use those resources to eventually destroy our enemies (Pajits)
>>46334038
>L. Diplomacy
Make more natives on the western continent our allies.
>>46334038
>>G.Improve military
Improve military: War Elephant-mounted cannons.
Come on OP, surely you didn't forget about those elephants...
>>46334128i wish someone made a civ thread game for tabletop simulator.
>>46334192
i cant see this backfire at all having a big explosion literally 20 cm from the elefants ears
>>46334192
Elephants are an incredibly inefficient use of resources, clearly we should work towards steam-tanks, equipped with rear loading cannons and various war-crime-inspiring-materials!
>>46334218
I agree, but then again we can make shit like earmuffs or something for them.
>>46334226
Agree, but we haven't found out steam yet, we're working on it tho.
>>46334226
yeah, but first metal cartridges and breech loading rifles
but before that we should settle the new continent before the kaichou takes all the land.
remember, possesion is 2/3 of ownership or whatever.
>>46334226
>>46334218
Lol, I didn't think about that. Fine, but gattling guns would most likely be more realistic to develop at our current tech.
>>46334275
"Possession is nine tenths of the law" is the quote.
But yeah we do need to discover steam power, at this point the things holding us back are a lack of understanding of how pressure can do work, the metallurgy to make a metal strong enough, a large enough knowledge of mechanics to make it work (which we might have) and the mere idea of the thing.
The fact is though once we have it, we will take off like crazy!
>>46334134
>>46334038
I change my vote to D since we got to get the land first.
>>46334350
I'll back this
>>46334218
They did do it apparently
>>46334226
>Elephants are an incredibly inefficient use of resources
I assume it was a way of transporting cannons around the jungle and always having an elevated platform for your guns.
>steam-tanks
We don't have the tech for that yet and won't for quite some time.
We do however have cannons and elephants. Nothing wrong with using elephants until we tech up.
Aside from police forces and various localised security, here's our standing armed forces:
>Navy:17 galleons,11 early frigates,7 galleas ,60 flyuts ,good sailors, Stormborn, the Admiralty
>Military
2700 well equipped, mounted officers
3500 rangers(mounted archers, excellent scouts)
1500 Maargard
2000 Stormborn
2500 Blitzkriegers
600 professional heavy infantry
9000 professional archers(hunters in peace-time)
10 000 Reiters
16 000 Musketeers
Field medics of the order of St. Roise
Siege engineers
All adult males are trained to be part of the militia, even chinks. They act as a reserve that is mobilized when needed and mostly fight as highly effecitve(especially in defense)pikemen and arquebusiers/musketeers.
>Equipment
longbows, pikes, swords,zweihanders,crossbows, shields, armor,helmets,liquid fire,great plate armor,trebuchets,culverin, arquesbus,pistol, flintlock muskets
Our economy is strong, our manpower reserves are large. Choose TWO
A.More ships
B.Officers, tactics and strategy
C.More cavalry
D.More infantry
E.Better militia readiness(incorporporate the conquered regions)
>>46334389
E and b
>>46334389
>E.Better militia readiness(incorporporate the conquered regions)
>B.Officers, tactics and strategy
>>46334389
>A.More ships
>B.Officers, tactics and strategy
>>46334389
B, E
>>46334389
Can we send spies to see the Pajit's military?
A and D
>>46334386
Lets do it then!
>>46334487
I'll support this.
>>46334389
>E.Better militia readiness(incorporporate the conquered regions)
>B.Officers, tactics and strategy
>>46334550
Our militia is improved by riding cannon elephants!
>>46334386
>>46334487
>>46334510
>>46334611
nah, bad idea. we fucked up the pajit by making their own elephants panic.
i think it's better to standardize our military units, like a Tercio for example (1/3 pike and 2/3 muskets working as a unit).
the maargard and blitzkriegers could work together in these units as elites with the maargard as the pike and blitzkriegers as the musketeers.
expand the professional heavy infantry numbers so we can combine them with the musketeers to form units.
maybe time to scrap the archers.
also train the militia to work as tercios.
>>46334487
>>46334611
The troops serving in the south (kafi-lands and such) trudging around the jungle all day would probably find the elephant useful.
But for the majority of our army its probably not worth the cost.
The chink minority in our own lands is well integrated in the economy and is valuable as spies, sailors and supplements our forces when the militia is called. The pajit, hibibi and kafi in particular have been more unruly, since we conquered them through war, but law and order now reign in the provinces and we've incorporated the minorities into militia corps. We've trained officers to lead them better and have developed our pike and shot tactics.
We've also developed colonial militias to protect against any native aggression.
>Population:8 500 000 (76% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit)
>Colonials: 200 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: High
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
>>46334655
We just made grenades, how about we give our militia this?
>>46334692
MORE SCIENCE!
We should start a "Golden Age".
>>46334692
Can there be an Option for Spying and checking on how many the Pajit have?
>N Military actions
>>46334692
>L. Diplomacy
We need more allies in the new world.
>>46334712
We are already in the best golden age of our civilization so far, our economy and population are growing at great speeds, science and literacy, culture, colonisation - we've been largely at peace for decades now.
>>46334692
D settle the south coast by the hills.
>>46334735
yeah i think it's long overdue that we talk to the Ranki in the south and ally them in case pajit start trouble.
>>46334692
L. Diplomacy
>defensive alliance with ramki
>>46334655
We have those sorts of tactic down to pat, thing is though we don't need them as much since we engage at close range after thinning most enemy forces significantly. Mostly because the only group even close to us tech wise are our allies and the pajit.
Seeing as we won't be fighting most of them for a little while, as we are busy getting all that sweet new world land, we can work on improving other things. As we are quite close to making our close range units pretty much pointless.
>>46334752
>>46334692
Alright change my vote from D to L
Let's make some allies with the people of the New World.
>>46334759
good point.
>>46334698
that seems a bit too high tech. the grenades we have now is basically 'grenadier' style close range for clearing fortresses and throwing into the enemy ranks when they charge our ranks.
>>46334778
i think it's more important to keep the kaichou close and befriend the Ranki.
we should also talk with the pajit and discuss their cold shoulder treatment we got last time we met.
>>46334801
>good point.
although i think we should at least train these formations in case shit hits the fan sooner than we thought.
>>46334692
>L. Diplomacy
Make friends with the ranki
Where shall we send our best diplomats?
A.Seek an alliance with the Ramki
B.Seek an alliance with the Inroki
C.Negotiate with the Pajit
D.Somewhere else
>>46335178
>B.Seek an alliance with the Inroki
>>46335178
>A.Seek an alliance with the Ramki
>>46335351
>>46335385
>>46335227
guys, we can just conquer them later, it's a waste of time. it's more important to talk to the Ramki.
Changing my vote to A in order to avoid a tie, tied votes are bad.
Rolled 33 (1d100)
The ramki kingdom has maintained neutrality in the wars we've fought in this last century, but we shall attempt to get them to ally with us now.
>>46335543
>33
That could have gone better.
>>46335543
i think they would accept a mutual defense alliance.
>>46335543
Time for a show of show, of why they should make a alliance with us.
"To bind ourselves with you in such a way would not be beneficial to us. The winds and tides are uncertain and we'd rather not do anything so rash. You should know that you are not the only ones who wish to see us as allies, but ever since we decided that we shall take no sides in continental matters, we've had great prosperity."
We've learned of the Junutu isles, which the ramki have subdued in recent decades. Trade between the west and east must pass through the waters of the ramki and their rulers are rich and unwilling to part with their fortunes.
In the east, Atraj has fallen and the Pajit now rule over the Prizzid people. They are being treated equally as subjects - there's no political rights for the empire to extend to them anyway.
One last turn maybe
>Population:8 500 000 (76% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit)
>Colonials: 200 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: High
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
>>46335860
>D.Settle new lands
>>46335900
this
southern coast of the western continent
>>46335860
>D. Settle New lands.
>>46335860
A. New continent interior now. Gotta find iur ancestral hone land.
>>46335860
>B.Food production & Population growth
We should come up with names for the continents. The new world should be named after the person who first sailed and landed or the person who mapped the continent. If it's the latter then we should name the new world Bulgaria.
op is zzz, gnite folks.
