>"Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis..."
BETWEEN THE TIME WHEN THE OCEANS DRANK NEW ORLEANS AND THE RISE OF THE GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS....
>>46216649
AND UNTO THIS, RAIDEN, DESTINED TO WIELD THE RECURRING TITLE OF CYBORG NINJA UPON A PRETTY BROW...
>>46216724
BUT BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK, I TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME AND FLUNG HIM INTO THE FUTURE, WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW!
>>46213599
This movie is fucking fascist and should be banned.
>>46218247
NOW THE FOOL SEEKS TO RETURN TO THE PAST, TO UNDO THE EVIL THAT IS METAL GEAR
>>46213599
>tfw you find out that was Uncle Iroh narrating
>>46218247
That's why it's badass.
>>46218247
>fascist
what
I don't even
It's not even Starship Troopers
why
>>46218247
Faggot detected
>>46218506
>>46218952
I guess he's got something against John Milius
>>46218247
>>46218494
>>46218506
Howard actually hated capitalism, and a lot of shit that goes down in the Hyborian Age is him bitching about the excess of 1920s capitalism, especially the Texas oilmen. He wanted a return to the good old west, and that's about as far away from fascism you can get.
>>46213599
>What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie?
>I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
>The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
>Rush in and die, dogs—I was a man before I was a king.
>>46219369
What is best in life!?
>>46218992
>hates capitalism
>wants to return to a romanticised past
...
>and that's about as far away from fascism you can get.
I don't think you understand what fascism is
>>46220159
Fascism:
>hyper nationalism
>authoritarianism
>symbolism
>mass violence
Conan's enemies typically display all of those things.
Fascism also has nothing against capitalism like communism does, it just puts it under its own control. Which is again just authoritarianism, which is again what conan fought against.
>>46219913
Hot water, good dentishtry and shoft lavatory paper.
>>46220232
Look, I ain't saying Conan's a fascist, but by your description any enemy in literature would meet 3/4ths of the distinctions of fascism.
Enemies are generally violent, there are generally more of them than there are of the hero, because who cares about heroes triumphing against quite modest odds, and being media, plenty of people will read symbolism into it whether or not any was intended.
dat reasoning be dumb, ya goof
>>46218247
>Fascist.
Not everything to do with Nietzche is fascist, you idjit.
http://www.barbariankeep.com/ctbds.html
>>46218450
Aku
Er....plus, the movie's Conan is actually really different from Howard's Conan. Like, they're both fucking awesome, but there's a lot of difference. Milius used way more Nietzche than Howard did.
>>46223330
Well duh, anon. Most enemy factions in fiction are painted in fascistic terms. No one is saying they aren't.
The thing is Conan is a free spirited individual who directly fights fascist-like enemy forces and paints ideals like freedom and savagery in a good light, which are direct opposites to what fascism is about.
>>46218247
u wot, m8?
Conan is always about Free spirits and the savagery of untamed man overcoming the constraints of civilisation.
How the everliving fuck do you equate that with Fascism? I know I've swallowed the bait hook line and sinker, but I can't help myself; I must know.
>>46220232
>>46223330
>>46227011
Fascism uses a lot of themes and thoughts that somewhat resembles some of Howard's views, but it applies it to the nation rather than the individual. Society needs to be strong and pure, focused and healthy yadayadayada.
But Howard's core theme is basically how civilization is a fluke that breeds degenerates and shelters weaklings, while barbarianism is the natural state of mankind and will always triumph. It's opposed to organized society and authoritarianism, even when Conan becomes the king of a nation he does so because the previous king is a decadent tyrant, and once he has the throne his savagery lets him overcome the intriguing and plots of civilized men.
>>46220232
It's a real stretch to say that power-hungry sorcerers and hordes of invading picts somehow exemplify fascism.
>>46225101
You're using the word fascism so loosely that it's become completely meaningless. Stop that.
>>46230123
By calling them hordes you paint them in savage terms, but the themes in Conan are clearly that he fights against civilizations.
>>46230168
Language evolves :^)
>>46230168
liberals use facism to describe everything right wing/what they don't like. the irony is facism is anti-individual/pro -oppression which are leftist ideologies.
>>46230263
They aren't any more leftist than they are rightist. Sometimes they get termed that way but when you're talking about shit like nazism and communism it's really putting the discussion out of reasonable bounds.
>>46218247
Here's another (you) to add to your ebin collection, I tip my fedora
>>46230211
>Language evolves :^)
Apparently your brain didn't though.
>>46231143
Hey, I'm the one adapting to trends, you're the one still stuck in the past. So apparently your brain is the unevolved one.
>>46218450
How old are you?
>>46218247
>>46231224
20, actually.
>>46231224
You were right.
>>46218506
I don't think the original book had much to do with fascism, other than coming out around when Vietnam was making everyone hate war (and rightly so). The Movie pretty much parodied the fascist read of the book.
>>46232437
Fascism is hard to define, but if I recall correctly people don't typically have the right to vote in a fascist regime. In fact, I'm pretty sure there's no democratic process at all in fascism.
The people in Starship Troopers are born civilians, unable to vote or hold public office. Only after serving a term working for the government (not necessarily in the military) do they become citizens.
The depiction of humanity in that book was definitely authoritarian, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't fascist.
>potentially cool Conan thread
>ruined by EVERYTHING IS FASCIST liberal simpletons
Hitlershouldhavewon.tiff
>>46222932
>mfw I can't argue that point
>>46236471
Don't you know it's the current year? Everything, literally everything is fascist. You're fascist, I'm fascist, OP's fascist, even the guy complaining about fascism is fascist.
>>46223410
wew lad
Good read, though it took me a bit to get through.
Thanks for posting it m8. Have some thank-you abs.
>>46237636
ESPECIALLY the guy complaining about fascism
>>46230263
I wish more people realized the right/left axis loses all sense when you're talking about international politics or revolutionary (in the sense of violent overcoming of "the system") ideologies.
>>46219913
>>46222932
Cold beer, warm pussy, and a place to take a shit with a door on it.
>>46239018
goddamn
>>46220159
The Wild West was about the individual, not the state like Fascism is.
>>46239018
>>46241535
The Wild West was literally state sponsored colonisation of a more aggressive form than was ever undertaken by a European power other than Spain.
>>46239432
No, complaining on the Internet is the least fascist thing you can do!
But, if you disagree with somebody's opinion, you are literally a fascist!
>>46243103
I won't argue that it was supremely shit-heeled, because it was, but I'll also say that it's more complicated in that in the sense that exactly how the U.S. government encouraged and supported settlement.
A lot of people got 40 acres and a mule, so I guess there is that, the mule. For that many people, that is a lot of mules.
Otherwise a lot of the support was more in the sense you could cry "MASSACRE" or "INDIAN WAR!" and the Cavalry would come running even if you were the ones who literally started it and made the Indians want to retaliate in the first place. (Extremely common, happened for hundreds of miles around where I live and it's why the largest, most desirable Valley in the area has no native Indians and why that tribe is extinct).
The U.S. Government also jumped in and supported the issue of Texas seceding from Mexico, and a lot of the settlers in Texas signed oaths and made promises to be good Mexican citizens in bad faith with the notion of doing so firmly in their mind when they came. The honoring, or lack of it towards Mexico and Mexican citizens newly in U.S. territory after Mexico was roundly humiliated and carved up into said territory also showed real favoritism and agenda on the part of the Government.
I guess the U.S. Government also had a large hand in funding Indian Schools, which were perfidious acts of cultural genocide and just plain fucking mean towards the kids in general.
I think what I'm saying here is it wasn't all money or supplies, although there are cases where money was thrown down. Just not always directly towards settlers. The support was more in the sense of total support for almost anything they did fueled by a sense of "Manifest Destiny" and moral certainty and entitlement.
>>46213599
>Mako died in your life time
>soon so will Morgan Freeman and Stan Lee
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