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We don't talk enough about Word of Blake, let's talk about them
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>/btg/ does a TRO:
http://builtforwar.blog(not spam)spot.com/
>How do I do this Against the Bot thing?
http://pastebin.com/pE2f7TR5
>Overview of the major factions?
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houses/
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clans/
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powers/
>How do I find out what BattleMechs a faction has?
http://masterunitlist.info/
>Map of /btg/ players (WIP):
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1116217&add=1
>BattleTech Introductory Info and PDFs
http://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400
>Rookie guides
http://pastebin.com/HZvGKuGx
>Sarna.net - BattleTech Wiki
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page
>Megamek - computer version of BattleTech. Play with AI or other players
http://megamek.info/
Unit Designing Softwares
>SSW Mech Designer
http://www.solarisskunkwerks.com/
>MegaMek Lab
http://megameklab.sourceforge.net/
>BattleTech IRC
#battletech on irc.rizon.net
>PDF Folders
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9q792hobnbpw3/Battletech
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/sdckg6j645z4j/Battletech
>>46211682
>We don't talk enough about Word of Blake
Are you fucking joking? EVERY SINGLE THREAD, without fail at least two blakefags will show up and spout their meme faction catchphrases.
If anything, we need less Blake
>>46211820
>If anything, we need less Blake
Damn it I'm trying!
>>46211820
>only two blakefags per thread
SEE? WE NEED MORE BLAKE
ONE TUKAYYID WASN'T ENOUGH
>>46211927
I don't understand /btg/'s hate against the Republic of the Sphere. They are almost a carbon copy of the Word of Blake, except the "muh evil faction" thing (and even then they are very gray with their "let the Republic ideals survive at any cost")
>>46212224
>I don't understand /btg/'s hate against the Republic of the Sphere
WizKids, pretty much start from there.
Personally I kept on thinking he was a Blakist plant until 3145 when he came back from cryo and went Clint Eastwood on Comstar.
And I mean "old cranky bastard" Eastwood, not "Dirty Harry" hell probably both really.
>>46211682
Holde the Butt!
HAHAHABONE NORMAN
>>46212224
>no hatred of Clans
>no spoopy space cult
>no NUKE THE CLANS SPACE WAR NOW
>>46212512
BONE BONE BONE BONE
BONE BONE
BONE BONE
BONE
>>46211820
ONE TUKAYYID NOT ENOUGH
>>46212760
TRENT ARIAN DO IT AGAIN
>>46212752
That's a terrible pun but I'll allow it
Alright, let's cool it with the blakeposting and have a challenge instead:
The Way Of Our People: take a non-battletech mech design and make a mech based on it. Bonus points for making an Unseen-style generalist design. Double bonus for filling a gap in the Unseen's array of roles
>>46213378
don't mind me cheating with my repost, I just like the idea of protomechs and handheld weapons
>>46212752
I''m watching through the pirated Force Awakens blu-ray, and I wasn't planning on commenting on anything I saw on /btg/, but that pun is absolutely glorious. You're a terrible person. Well done.
>>46213167
>>46214193I must be retarded because I don't get it.
>>46213167
>>46214193
I can't take credit, not really.
I stole it from the best visual pun that I've seen on this earth; the guy had a unit with five skeleton-painted Thugs and a lance of LRM carriers with musical notes painted on the sides.
I got it halfway through the game and I was just like MOTHERFUCKER
that man is the Top Pun, and I can only hope that I'll one day come up with something so inspired
>>46214355
are you under ~25 anon? that might be it
here's what I was referencing, by the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMYAEHE2GrM
>>46214495
>are you under ~25 anon? that might be it
No, just never liked or paid attention to hip hop.
>>46214594
oh, yeah. that'd be the other reason
>>46214594
Let me guess, you don't like country but you love metal
>>46214651
Country and metal are both ok, I prefer classic rock and classical music (no, not just because they both have "classic" in the name, that would be dumb).
>>46213378
A Mecha-Zone production that i've liked for a while now.
A low end mobile medium that works best in broken terrain.
The LAC is designed to explosively separate in case of ammo explosion. (CASE II)
So I got the game a while ago. Want to paint but I dont want to paint in faction-specific colors.
But how do I paint then? All of the primary colors are tied to one faction or another.
Maybe I shouldn't paint at all.
>>46214962
generic camo patterns. those work for anyone.
Fieldgrau is also a wonderful all-faction option
Tell me the secrets and rules-of-thumb-s needed in order to become a master 'mech designer.
I like to make 'mechs that, fluff wise, are slapped together junkers piloted by bandits and pirates.
>>46214962
Just paint however you like.
If anyone asks, your just some merc company who tried to mimic the big boys.
Or you're some glitzy entertainer from Solaris who hams it up for crowds.
>>46215061
>Tell me the secrets and rules-of-thumb-s needed in order to become a master 'mech designer.
NEVER EVER skip CASE if there's ammo. 90% armor fractions. MLs. LBX-10s, SFEs under 6/9 mediums or 5/8 heavies or 4/6 assaults. endo is always better than FF or XLFEs. gauss rifles always, MRMs never LPPCs stronk, IJJs are disgusting on 55 tonners, GECM sometimes, BAP never. melee is fine if you can go 5/8 (or 4/6 for assaults) and preferably jump, but a bad notion otherwise. the basic PPC is actually a pretty good weapon.
>>46215061
>master 'Mech designer
No such thing, really. This is because these days, optimization is formulaic. So you're better off making what you want to make. Some good guidelines are:
1. If you want to put more weapons than the heat sinks can handle on it, make it bracket fire. What this means is, you have a group of long-range weapons (usually with minimum ranges) then short range weapons that come into play to cover that deficiency. This has the benefit of being able to adjust fire based on range, and conserve heat and weight due to not needing as many heat sinks.
2. 85% rule for armor will always give you an effective design, protection-wise. It might not be ideal, but so long as you have 85% armor coverage, you're doing alright. Now, some people think more is better, and some have different numbers they used based on what type of 'Mech it is, but as a general rule, not going below 85% armor will serve.
3. Lots of ammo? CASE II if era appropriate, especially on XL designs in the Inner Sphere. If you have to use regular CASE, opt for LFEs or SFEs if you can, unless it's a fast 'Mech or has lots of IJJs.
4. This applies to your design: make sure you have plenty of ammo. It's a game of inches, really. usually ~15 shots on anything is enough for a game, but campaign play obviously upsets that. But for a lance v lance game in an afternoon? 15 shots is a good target number. So your RAC could use more ammo. I would go with 1 MPL and 1 ML and use the extra ton for more ammo on that, especially if it's a raider. Pirates often don't get to resupply as much, so 'Mechs that are anemic on ammo can be a problem. Obviously just making all raiders have laser weapons is a boring workaround, so ammo count and being aware of it is a must.
5. Design what you like. If you aren't having fun with it, what's the point? That said, I too like to build junkers and FrankenMechs, or just "junkyard" variants of venerable machines that hard up bandits and pirates use. Godspeed.
>>46215061
The only worthwhile tonnages are 25 tons (for speed and recon) and 100 tons (for fighting). Maximize the number of ERPPCs and SRMs on every design, no other weapons should be used, aside from Medium Lasers to fill unused tonnage. No Mech for fighting should be faster than 3/5, but 3/5/3 is acceptable. Maximum armor all the time. Have enough heat sinks to totally cover the ERPPCs or the SRMs, not both.
Designing Mechs for optimized for hyper-entropic warfare is fairly simple, and will never steer you wrong.
>>46215275
>Hyper-Entropic Warfare
>not 3/4/5s with hardened armor and SSRM-6s
Do you even HEW?
I come to these threads only for purple bird waifu. Today I am disappointed.
>>46215562
Don't be.
>>46215624
Damn son, that's fresh. When'd you get/e/ to do that 4u?
>>46215675
>/e/
It was the /tg/ drawthread.
>>46215683
Ah. Previous PBW content was from /e/, so I guessed. Neat.
>>46215562
>>46215624
we need more QT faction waifus, really.
factionfags, respond with how you'd turn your faction into a solid waifu
>>46215970
Capfag here. I can't, because then someone will claim I'm MadCap.
>>46215624
[HAPPY PURPLE BIRD NOISES]
Absolutely perfect, anon.
>>46216160
the very fact that you acknowledge that could be a problem means that you aren't MadCap
anyhow
you're the pre-xinsheng cappie guy round
here, yeah?, cause you aren't a cock about it
if so, you're all fine
>>46216207
Wait...are you claiming there's only one capfan around here that isn't a cock?
Guess i'm a cock then.
>>46216274
nah, It's just that one guy has demonstrated a coherent personality which includes not being a cock is all, so I figured you for him.
since you are worried about being a teenage dirtbag baby, I assume you aren't actually a dick, thoughI don't know if you support coleman's bullshit and therefor you ares till slightly suspiciousI'm really quite drunk, so stop me if this doesn't make any sense
>>46216207
Maybe he's A pre-Xin Sheng cappieanon, but I'm one too, so if he is, that means we have TWO of us. Amazing.
>>46216338
I never would have expected to see an anon around here speak so highly of another anon. Well that's warm and fuzzy.
>>46216451
>but I'm one too, so if he is, that means we have TWO of us. Amazing.
shit pal, looks like I mistook him for you.
keep on keeping on, man
>I never would have expected to see an anon around here speak so highly of another anon
I never speak ill of anyone who hasn't caused me or my friends or family direct harm, and nobody here has come even vaguely close.
hell, I got dumped yesterday (hence the drinking) and I don't even hold any ill will with her
>>46215970
Well, the Successor States are easy.
>>46216207
>you're the pre-xinsheng cappie guy round here, yeah?
Nope, I'm the "In it for the Stealth, Plasma, Mines, and TSM" cappie guy around here. Fun gameplay is more important than the fluff, and the stuff the caps have is fun to play with. Plus, the caps are interesting from a fluff perspective, so long as you don't make the mistake of buying the propaganda from either side.
>>46216514
C U C K
U
C
K
>>46216514
>>46216575
Speaking of speaking ill of someone...
>>46216556
you're a capcon PLAYER and not a factionfag, so who the hell should have beef with you? I don't have much fluff interest in the lyrans, but I love me some assaults, so who cares? it's not about who you play, it's about who you shitpost for
>>46216615
People who post about their personal emotional issues here deserve it. Especially the loldrinkinghealsthepain types.
>>46216615
ah, who gives a fuck about them /pol/ transplants? I sure don't. what are they gonna do, post bootleg nazi /r9k/ memes on infowars at me?
besides, I'm reasonably sure their memes do't' make too much sense when the "other guy" is a woman anyhow
>>46216667
well pal, if you'd ever dated a woman, (or maybe a guy, I dunno and don't care) long enough for one of them to dump you worth a shit (that is to say, more than one date that doesn't earn you a second because you ramble on about internet bullshit during a date), you'd maybe understand
>>46216708
>talking shit about /pol/
>sad drunk cuck
I mean shit nigga, have some self awareness.
>>46216514
Good philosophy to have.
>>46216556
Keep on keepin' on man. I may have soft dropped the Cappies due to their new lore, but I do still like how they fight and their combat units. I also think the Augmented Lance is the coolest shit and I use a similar concept for my pirate/merc band.
>>46216767
The sheer number of people in or who have had relationships in this community is astounding and completely skews the board average, I'm sure. That said, you're probably still right. We do still have some angry foreveralones.
>>46216799
>post on a internet forum for nazi faggots who hate women cause >TFW no GF
>having the high ground to downtalk anyone
pls.
go back to trying to "redpill" your facebook friends with donald trump memes
frankly, if you were one percent the man you pretend to be, you wouldn't be here, you'd be on the news. but you aren't so you are clearly all talk and no cock
>>46216767
Or you could just not take it like a beta fukkboi
>>46216667
Not to get into the whole side debate going on, but in fairness, drinking actually does help the pain. At least for a bit. It certainly helps my leg once I've taken all the ibprofen or Naproxem Sodium I can in one day.
>leg hurts whenever the weather changes
>In the US midwest, that's about every 15 minutes. 30 minutes on a good day.
Yes, I know that's not what you meant.
>>46216869
I know I'm the last person to admonish about feeding trolls, but...
>we were due for this after the discourse level in the last thread
>>46216879
tell me son, who and when was the first girl you ever kissed?
I'm waiting
fact is, women don't like you on account of they can sense that you hate women for not liking you
you think that the fucking boogyman is stealing yo girl? you never had a girl to steal. it's you who are whatever insult you project on the world. if you weren't, you wouldn't be bitching like this
>>46216915
I know I shouldn't feed him, but I can't help it
>>46216915
>>we were due for this after the discourse level in the last thread
Probably, but I would have expected it to be more on topic, really.
I mean, people were talking about Capellans and all, and yet that's the part that stays civil!
>>46216933
Lindsey somebody in 6th grade. After P.E.
Nice projecting fukkboi
>>46217270
>kissing girls
Sounds like somebody isn't in love with the Dragon
Talking about chicks in /btg/?
Fucking frails, man...
>>46217240
I would run a merc company of nothing but Vindis if they looked like Alex's pre-MWO Vindi.
>>46217533
Don't hang up. We don't have to talk about chicks that broke your heart. We can just talk about... stuff. Your favorite bands, the word of Blake... um, the Matrix.
>>46217533
Whatsamatta, Namaah not good enough?
Can I get a synopsis of Empires Aflame?
>>46218007
>In this alternate universe, the Clans don't exist but pretty much everything else winds up at the same point in the '67+ era, also there's no Jihad
>>46215970
How about sad Dragon-chan?
>>46217709
You had me at blake
>>46218080
So it's entirely pointless?
>>46218080
>pretty much everything else winds up at the same point in the '67+ era, also there's no Jihad
uhhh
>no FRR
>St Ives was never a thing
>Confederated Suns
>Magistracy of Taurus
>>46211682
WoB did nothing wrong.
>>46218696
Isn't this just the Luminos series
>>46216827
>The sheer number of people in or who have had relationships in this community is astounding and completely skews the board average, I'm sure. That said, you're probably still right. We do still have some angry foreveralones.
>tfw three of our namefags are married
The VTOL that Plog is finishing can have a little quip or slogan on it. Ideas?
>>46218970
"Thrust Vectoring Rules the Skies"
>>46218970
Why not Purple Bird?
>>46218751
No, Luminus has now PPC-Capacitors and Retr Blades
How should I go about generating a merc unit if I only care about the BT side of things and not the RPG side?
How many different ways are there to make a mech tanky as fuck?
>>46220081
The rules in FM: Mercenaries and Mercenaries Supplemental are fine for both, but Mercs Supplemental's are faster and simpler.
Or for maximum simplicity, just roll on a mercenary RAT for whatever time period.
>>46220650
The essence of a zombie is still the same as it ever was; lots of armor, non XL engines, good portion of its firepower in torsos, and all energy weapons.
The main thing these days is just what kind of armor you want to use, since you've got stuff like hardened, ferro-lam. and the more specialized types like ballistic reinforced, or if you want reinforced structure. Also, whether or not you want to armor any internal components, gyros being a common thing to do so with.
>>46220081
Use FMM, FMM(r), MHB 3055, whatever.
None of them really need any RPG stuff.
If you want, I have an extremely simplified homebrew system
>>46220780
>mfw no HD Engine
>>46215624
I like the Marik uniform
>>46218970
When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way
Is there Total Chaos somewhere in the OP Mediafire folders? I can't find it.
>>46218970
Right into the Danger Zone!
>>46223307
That is hilarious and I assume must be being done in Europe, as the bag-throwing dude is not being riddled with bullets.
>>46223307
Any bets on how long till this guy gets shot?
>>46223307
>>46223377
>>46223402
Nope. Shot in America.
And it pisses me off because this is incredible offensive and in disgustingly poor taste.
This isn't a prank, this is a colossal faggot. It's almost enough to give me a hernia of rage.
>>46223402
>>46223377
Or it could just be entirely staged.
>>46223546
Calm down, Robe, the Jihad is over.
>>46223552
that could very well be. It's still in poor taste. And what's more, some other asshole could get himself killed or set an entire nation on panic mode by thinking to him self
>yeah BRO this shit is LMAO imma BOMB people itll be especially funny considering the political environment nowadays ITS JUST A PRANK BRO! BRO!
>>46223579
>Jihad
I wish they wouldn't call it that, it's incredibly offensive to Muslims and cultural appropriates from Islam (a religion of peace).
Everytime I see it I feel like I'm going to have a brain aneurism.
>>46223579
I didnt mean it was offensive to muslim extremists, i meant it was offensive because literally THOUSANDS of people have died in the past couple of years because of these horrendous crimes against humanity and this twat is using it to pad his channel views on youtube.
Fuck him.
>>46223307
I give him three more "pranks" before somebody shoots him
>>46223546
>>46223608
>>46223632
>>46223638
Inshallah my brother, I have deleted the offending webm in Muhammad's name (pbuh). No one repost it, please.
>>46223675
>ITS JUST A PRANK BRO
>BRO
>I DONT CARE IF IM PISSING ON THE MEMORIES OF SUICIDE BOMBING VICTIMS EVERYWHERE, I GOTTA GET THAT SWEET YOUTUBE DOSH KNOWWAIMSAYYIN?
>BRO
>ITS A PRANK
>>46223608
Or it could be that thing that isn't a prank where no-one is actually upset or hurt. I think it's called Acting? I mean, it makes sense that it'd be that.also yeah it is funny especially considering the current political environment, that's the point of such an obvious stereotype being used after all
>>46223708
need mo tears fo dem feelins
Less offensive?
So I've been torrenting a bunch if JAVs recently and it has me interested in the Combine.
Are they putting out some good mechs in the new era? They should have access to lots of Clantech by now with the capture of those Nova Cat worlds.
Anyone here have a favorite Drac regiment?
>>46223675
The funny part is when he does get shot and a jury gets to watch the video of it.
>Self defense verdict in reached in a matter of seconds.
>>46223773
>Less offensive?
But that's almost exactly how lion prides actually work.
>>46223959
>Are they putting out some good mechs in the new era?
The Devs have the Combine the most out of any faction in the game, so what do you think?
>>46224279
>Less offensive?
>But that's almost exactly how lion prides actually work.
Since when has reality been a defense against something being offensive?
>>46223736
>Or it could be that thing that isn't a prank where no-one is actually upset or hurt. I think it's called Acting? I mean, it makes sense that it'd be that.
Could be. In retrospect, there were few enough people in the video (and I can't go back and check now) that it could have been entirely done by actors, on a closed set, with visible police presence. It's not impossible. It's just highly unlikely, given the pain in the ass required to actually get cops to come watch you film stuff and reassure the public that you aren't actually terrorists.
Filming shit with guns/bombs in a public place is WAY more involved than just grabbing a camera, costume, airsoft guns, and heading to your local 7/11. I don't think it's ever taken less than 3 weeks of work to arrange that sort of thing in my whole career.
>>46224325
Why do they have them?
>>46211682
When did through ad mech join battletech?
>>46224626
First mention of them was back in 1994 or so. So just before they were a thing in 40K.
Next question?
>>46224808
40k had them in '87
>>46224996
If we want to get technical about "who did what first", the whole "weird dudes in robes worshipping lost technology" trope has been in Battletech since the very beginning: 1984-5. Predating Rogue Trader.
>>46224808
Yeah, but the 40k knockoff look is less than a decade old
>>46225103
So anyone that uses red and black (traditional "evil" faction signaling colors) and has cybernetics is a ripoff of the AdMech?
40kids plz go.
>>46225161
>So anyone that uses red and black (traditional "evil" faction signaling colors) and has cybernetics is a ripoff of the AdMech?
Yes. If you can't be original you have no place designing games.
>>46223959
Old Drac player here, I have several favourite regiments, but the top two would have to be the Second Night Stalkers and the Otomo. The first for that senpai/kohai style "veterans teaching rookies" style, the second... well, it's the fucking Praetorian Guard with one of the best colour schemes in this game of giant robots.
>>46223959
The Ryuken, Ghost Regiments, and Arkab Legion are all pretty cool. Fuck the Sworders though.
How the hell did JAV's get you wanting to play combine? I know I shouldn't ask, but the diseased part of my brain must hear this thought process.
>>46226021
I'm hoping for something like "God damn, Shion Utsunomiya's a dead ringer for Omi Kurita" or something like that.
>>46226021
Fuck you and fuck Theodore Kurita's lame pet regiments. The Swords of Light are classic.
>>46226021
I don't know about him but seeing Jap get fucked hard but end the scene smiling always reminds me of the War of '39.
>>46226655
classic dummies lol
>>46226655
Kokuryu-kai pls
>Theodore Kurita aka "Teddy C3" is not my coordniator.
>>46225161
>>46225103
That's just Apollyon's Shadow Division. They all had different colors.
>>46226658
Goddamnit hanse
Natasha Kerensky?
I'm Inner Sphere.
Good ol' original Gladiator. I think I still got mine somewhere in my collection.
Rolled 3, 3 = 6 (2d4)
?
>>46227514
That's a nice fuckin firefly right there
>>46226162
She's too busty to be Omi.
Maybe Minami Hatsukawa for Omi, Yu Shinoda for Katana Tormark, Reiko Nakamori for Tomoe Sakade, and Shiori Tsukada for Yori Kurita.
Just off the top of my head.
>>46218970
Looks like it has little t-rex arms so I'd go with
"vroom vroom"
>>46229238
ayyy
>>46228053
Thanks for the name drops, I was getting tired of western stuff anyway.
>>46229238
kek
TAKE PRIDE IN YOUR JOKE
>>46228053
>Yu Shinoda for Katana Tormark
Does she do lesbian stuff?
>>46223546
>Nope. Shot in America.
(after checking out the video on 4plebs)
Driving on the left-hand side of the road? Sunny conditions like that? Looks like it was done in Australia to me.
>>46218970
"Do not look directly at <laser> with remaining mech(s)"
Replace <laser> with whatever that big gun is. I'm assuming this is some sort of speedy headcapper-carrier.
What are some mechs your forget you love? Was just looking through some stuff and I love the Thug, but I think I've used it maybe two times.
Do da burrs like any weapons in particular? I'm getting a feeling they like Gauss and LRMs but that's from like two units.
>>46230820
Quickdraw. It's not perfect but I have a soft spot for it since it was my first ride, and the one I used for a long time. Haven't used it in ages though.
>>46229965
Yeah
http://javfor.me/89260.html
>>46231191
Does she pick the wrong side in civil wars?
>>46231191
What does JAV stand for? Every time I see you weeb fags post it I think Indonesia.
>>46231269
>weeb
What's the key to optimizing shields?
I feel like they should be good, but they have such hefty penalties it's hard to see how. -1 to all weapons fire from that arm, speed reduction, and blocking fire from other sections when used actively is hard to get around.
>>46230820
Crazily enough, the Crusader. I never take them of my own accord, but I have the most absurd good luck with them when a RAT hands me one
>>46231438
would they work in combination with turrets or do they get blocked too?
>>46231269
>What does JAV stand for?
Japanese Adult Video - porn for weebs.
>>46232794
>he doesn't watch JAV
lower than a taurian
>>46232847
>he likes censored porn
Literally weebQ
REMOVE CLANNER
REMOVE CLANNER
>>46233267
>he can't find in censored JAV
>he doesn't watch it at all
if we give you the Pleiades will you stop plebbing up the place?
>>46233267
>>46233417
What are your 4 favorite mechs in the intro box?
What are your 4 least favorite in said box?
>>46231438
Blocking sections means you build the mech to work within that constraint.
For instance, set up weapons so your long and short range guns are on separate sides, so it shields the short range side at a distance, then stops defending when in close, and if it has two shields, it then switches to defending the long range side.
Still, the number of problems with shields really demands errata. Particularly the whole "shield reduced to 0 DA/DC provides no benefit, but still inflicts all its penalties" part.
>>46232242
Turrets are part of the location they're mounted, so shields still block them.
>>46233995
>What are your 4 favorite mechs in the intro box?
Zeus
Banshee
Grasshopper
Atlas
>and on another episode of #battletech
[13:09] <Madmartigan> What if historical figures in BT were cats?
[13:10] <NapalmSticksToKids> they would probably
[13:10] <NapalmSticksToKids> get killed by Dracs
[13:11] <NapalmSticksToKids> again
[13:11] <Karpinsky> ayy
[13:11] <Madmartigan> lel
[13:12] <Neko-Question> im just imagining a battletech version of
[13:12] <Neko-Question> kantai collection
[13:12] <Karpinsky> Leviathan-chan OP
[13:13] <NapalmSticksToKids> we should
[13:13] <NapalmSticksToKids> not go down that path
[13:13] <NapalmSticksToKids> neko
[13:13] <Karpinsky> Thera-chan is mai waifu
[13:13] <Neko-Question> why not
[13:14] <Madmartigan> Levia-tan is a christmas cake
[13:14] <NapalmSticksToKids> wut
[13:15] <NapalmSticksToKids> barring the term being fucking nonsense
[13:15] <NapalmSticksToKids> the Lev isn't even old
[13:16] <Madmartigan> It's older than 25 years by canon, isn't it?
[13:16] <NapalmSticksToKids> so is like
[13:16] <NapalmSticksToKids> literally every other ship
[13:16] <Karpinsky> SL-era ships should be cakes
[13:16] <NapalmSticksToKids> why would a relatively new design
[13:16] <nightgaun7> Isn't the Leviathan transport that got upgraded pretty old?
[13:16] <NapalmSticksToKids> ONE THAT GOT UPDATED, EVEN
[13:16] <NapalmSticksToKids> be "old"
[13:16] <NapalmSticksToKids> ?
[13:17] <nightgaun7> >warship broadcasting "Ara ara!" as it gets hit by NAC fire
[13:17] <Karpinsky> >Dracs make Kancolle versions of their warships
[13:18] <NapalmSticksToKids> all two of 'em?
[13:18] <Madmartigan> A milf who wants to feel young again, so she gets plastic surgery and new "armaments".
[13:19] <Karpinsky> Well, today's Japs are not known for their navy
[13:19] <Madmartigan> >warships
[13:19] <Madmartigan> >not Mechs
[13:20] <Madmartigan> Dragon-chan best waifu, Grand Dragon-chan a knock-off.
[13:20] <Madmartigan> A Hatamoto-chan is fine too.
[13:20] <Karpinsky> >im-fucking-plying
[13:20] <CampaignAnon> what the fuck am I reading
>>46234213
I came back from playtesting to see this. I was jarred as fuck. On the other hand, my Capellan assault mech was just shy of completing the fight from its fluff. So that's nice.
>>46234213
>[13:20] <Madmartigan> Dragon-chan best waifu, Grand Dragon-chan a knock-off.
>implying Grand Dragon-chan isn't better than her mother by pretty much every metric
>>46234421
>shimmy art of Grand Dragon-chan when
>>46234304
>being jarred by something of this level
>on 4chan
>>46234421
Dragon-milf's low self esteem is my fetish, anon
>>46234543
Usually the IRC babbles about butts, not playing KanColle with warships.
>>46233995
Hopper
Enforcer
Vindi
Jenner
>>46235240
Least
Clint
Trenchbucket
Cyclops
Assassin
Devlin Stone is a Blakist plant.
>>46236669
Devlin Plant is a Stoned Blakist.
>>46236669
>>46236964
I've figured it all out!
GUYS
GUYS
What if we improved mass driver performance by loading them with MG ammo instead of solid metal? We're talking 1200 capital damage a shot for the light driver, here
>>46236669
I didn't even know Blakists were vegan.
>>46237346
Not all of them. But there must be a few from Vega. That's why they played nice and took it through conventional means and didn't use nukes.
>>46237346
Well, obviously the WoB are vegan. They're evil.
What's everybody's preferred ratio of artillery support to combat units?
>>46228053
>Katana Tormark
Not to mention Kitsune Kurita. Sweet Amaterasu-no-Okami, when did Bob Charrette, the man who's been doing RPGs about Japan since antediluvian times, leave?
This is why the MOC is the worst faction. There's a whole thread on /aco/ about Canopian royalty porn.
>>>/aco/405312
>>46238368
kek, I saw that a long time ago and I was wondering when /btg/ would find it
>>46238163
If you're not bringing equal BV of field arty infantry (79 BV a pop for 1 Thumper) to your front line units, you're doing it wrong.
>>46238607
>sub 1K BV for a company
OH YES
It's a shame that Field Artillery only gets the one ton, though.
>>46238783
Probably why the 3085 Field Artillery used Thumpers, 20 shots is a usable load, especially en masse due to low cost, but the 10 of a Sniper and especially 5 for a Long Tom just wouldn't work well.
>>46239267
just have stuff an APC full of ammo and have them reload from it or something.
>>46239844
APC nothing, that's exactly the kind of thing the J-27 was made for. It's full name is J-27 Ordnance Transport, after all.
It works, but time reloading is time not shooting, and it takes 3 turns to reload a ton of ammo when in action. Though you could utilize the numbers the lower BV allows you to have enough guns to rotate through, so some are always going. Though a Long Tom just by itself is 368 BV, so even in field gun form it likely wouldn't be all that cheap, you might be better off with a simple slow 50 ton or so vehicle with 4 tons of ammo. Snipers are only 85 BV though, so it could work.
>>46238607
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9q792hobnbpw3/Battletech
Dignity added.
>>46240229
oops, didn't mean to ctrl+v that.
I'm getting back into Battletech after a 8-9 year hiatus.
Can I get some recommendations for solid mechs/variants?
I played a game with a Bushwacker S2 the other day, decent punch and surprisingly high armor for it's weight. And I had a Trebuchet that was getting the job done nicely until it started taking fire.
>>46240408
The Bushwacker is a GOAT medium and one ride I'm jelly the Lyrans get.
Are you talking current era (3145) mechs/variants? Do you have a preference on any factions?
>>46240479
As far as I'm aware we play pretty early stuff, 3075? I think at the latest.
Frankly I just want some solid, comfy mechs that I'm going to use enough to warrant the time and money to buy and paint them.
>>46240550
Actually, we use some program and print everything out, but we have about a dozen books from 3000 to 3070ish, so I'm not entirely sure.
>>46240479
Bushwacker is my mechfu
>>46240408
You could try the ultra nova, clan, 100 tons, 3/5, 6 clan large pulse lasers.
>>46243742
Preeeeetty sure that's not canon.
>>46240408
Wolverine
Locust
Orion
Albatross (solid heavy)
>>46233995
Hunchback
Whitworth
Dervish
Jagermech
>>46240408
The Dragon Fire is remarkably good but often overlooked. The Merlin is just an extremely solid trooper mech, nobody has ever gone wrong with a griffin or Thunderbolt, Archers are the gold standard of fire support for a reason, and the Bandersnatch is actually a great support/bodyguard mech. For assaults, the Nightstar is basically the gold standard, and the Emperor is just a good all-around machine
Bumping for best faction
>>46247620
forgot picture
Does the Hatchman ever get a good variant?
>>46247703
No, I didn't upload a picture on purpose
>>46247932
Yeah, the LFE variant ain't bad
>tfw you use a lance of Commandos to take down an Atlas
Like 1940 all over again
>>46239267
Sniper is fine, especially if that's on-board arty.
Is the LBX-5 ever a good idea?
>>46253224
Over an AC/5, sure.
And on an AA platform it's nice to have some range.
>>46244860
>>46245996
Thanks, mates.
Any opinions on the Rifleman or Blackjack?
>>46253370
Blackjack.
It's at the least a 4/6/4 with four medium lasers.
>>46253370
Later Rifleman variants gets pretty good. Base ones and 3050 upgrades are iffy. Marik ones especially are death traps.
The Blackjack Omni is pure sex.
>>46253370
The rifleman is not the greatest
of mechs, though some of the later variants are alright. Fluffwise, it is very common, however. The Blackjack is a pretty decent, tough medium
>>46253600
>Marik ones especially are death traps
What a surprise
How common are Jenner IICs on the merc/open market?
>>46254774
Play a better faction or quit bitching. There's no ignorance at this point; you know what you're getting into, and you're choosing to stay there.
>>46256335
Probably incredibly rare, at least in the DA since the Clans that have it are Wolf and Nova Cat.
>>46256571
Dracs probably have it.
>>46256571
Well, there might be some on the market because the Dracs don't like Nova Cat kit.
>>46256627
Actually, the IIC 4 is in their hands, along with the Republic and the Sea Foxes, just none of the others. Sadly, it's shit.
>>46256692
>Well, there might be some on the market because the Dracs don't like Nova Cat kit.
But they love their Jenners.
>>46256459
>don't complain about eating shit
I'm a Lyran, so I only have to deal with their crap when I capture it, but fuck you anyways.
It seems Good Friday isn't very good for btg...
>>46258785
Well like half the regulars aren't on
And nobody is insulting anyone else's faction.
>skimming OF
>oh look, a FWL player thread
>Medron Pryde is there?
>he thinks Java is a security hole and doesn't use it
wat
>>46258785
I played real table top with mrs anon
Now I'm drunk as sin and already smashed.
It was a VERY good friday.
>>46258978
Nobody wants to hear about your wife giving you an awkward drunk handy, anon
>>46259078
Are you kidding? that could be hilarious
>>46259078
>implying she's dumb enough to marry me
Wait, she's a Davion fag I'm not dumb enough to marry her!
>>46259078
Don't you have a school shooting to plan, /r9k/?
>>46258901
That is indeed some pretty premium wat
>>46259125
Fair point
>>46259223
>implying
post your personal mechs (that is, ones piloted by your PC) from past campaigns
stock, modified or pure custom, anything
>>46259566
It was in relation to 'Mech designing software.
He had to come up with SOME reason that Heavy Metal Pro is still better than anything else, after all.
>>46261732
EDIT: Well, it was in relation to MegaMek but the general idea still holds. He has a hate-on for every BT-related program that wasn't made by Rick Raisley.
>>46261375
The last game I was a player for, we pulled the Warhammer configuration out of the Helm core in 3053, which my character tooled around in for a good 12 years until losing it a hand in the FCCW, then he swapped over to the Penetrator rebuild that took ~18 months to do.
>>46262001
Fuck forgot the pic.
>>46261375
I had a GMPC in an Albatross, does that count?
>>46261783
>He can't bullshit rules to his favor in MM.
>NO I CAN'T PLAY THAT I'LL GET HACKED.
Expected, but mediocre nonetheless.
Why does everyone in the IS use the same doctrine?
>>46264496
Shit writing
>>46264496
Star League influence. Like continental army system in Europe.
>>46264496
They don't, really. They use similar force organization on account of imitating the star league, but doctrine above that level is not very similar between them
bumping with a basic and mostly viable 3050 rifleman refit
>>46267680
let's try that again, this time with the fixed image
>>46267858
Marik/10
>>46267858
Should use a 300XL do that you can actually get decent armor
So what is Operation DAMNATIO? All we know is that the book for it will reveal who was behind Grey Monday, and that Jonah Levin is in charge (mentioned in FM 3145 in the RotS section).
I think it's the Republic going after every last neo-Blakist group in the Inner Sphere.
>>46270928
And later in that chapter, there's this.
Yeah, this sounds like a Blakist purge, if only in the Fortress Republic.
>>46270928
>>46270986
I want to know who are the Triumvirate and how they fit in the story
>>46266634
The force org is what I was talking about, but even the greater levels of doctrine seem pretty similar
>>46271847
Technically speaking, only the dracs and MoC don't modify the basic SL force org one way or another.
The similarity in overall doctrine I think can mostly be attributed to the fact that everyone is operating forces of the same units in roughly similar proportions with similar objectives, which would produce some pretty similar doctrine all around
>>46272253
How does everyone else do it?
I know the Feddies and FWL groups up regiments, but that doesn't really count.
The Caps do have their augmented lances
Marians do something with units of 5
>>46272390
The FWL does odd-sized tank formations, with 3-6 tanks to the lance, the taurians run two-tank elements and put three in a lance, as well as four-company mech battalions. The AFFS has the LCT which is combined-arms on a sub-regimental scale. I forget exactly what it is the lyrans do, but I'm pretty sure it's tank-related. The OA doesn't muck with the force org charts, but they attach mechs as support units to aerospace units, which is weird and unique to them
For some reason I found today that I have most of a Maelstrom miniature. It's missing the right arm. Came in a big box of loot that was mostly fantasy miniatures from dead companies.
Is there anything worth it in using it for conversion parts? Or converting into?
>>46273362
The Maelstrom is actually just fine as-is.
Heavy cav energy boats make for some damn fine mechs in most any situation.
>>46273426
Yeah but it's short and fat. And not the cute kind like an Urbie.
>>46273362
The newest variant is pretty damned good, except the HLL is kinda useless except for taking potshots when the MXPLs are out of range.
>>46273607
it could be worse, it could be a Cestus
Really slow thread...
Give me the most Davion lance you can for an era, either 3028, 3050, 3067 or 3145.
We're talking so Davion it practically lives on quillar and shits the First Prince.
>>46276214
Valk x4. Alternately, Cent x2 Dervish x2.
Somebody a few threads ago asked why our regulars drink so much.
Aside from BT fans generally being older and therefore more beaten-down by life (and thus drink for relief from the resultant soul-crushing pain), I've got a good reason tonight. First hockey game my wife and son can both come and watch. Single-elimination playoff game. We're up 4-0 with 6:30 minutes to go in regulation. We lost the game 8-4. Neither my wife nor kid stayed to wait for me when I came out of the locker room; they'd already left and went home.
Oh, and I get the third "your relative has cancer" email inside of 2 weeks when I get home.
So yeah, I'ma drink a bit.
>>46276861
>We're up 4-0 with 6:30 minutes to go in regulation. We lost the game 8-4
Fukken rekt, commit sudoku
>>46276861
Isn't most of /btg/ under 30?
>>46276861
Save it for your blog.
>>46276861
NEA I prefer when you talk about warships and space combat and blue water naval history instead of talking about real world problems.
