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>Rules databases
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https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
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>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
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WAAAGH IM AUTISTIC AND I LOVE IT
>>46204526
The change from green to black is too severe.
Decrease your image size.
>>46204582
I dunno, I think it's one of those paintjobs that looks very good when you look at it from arm's length.
>>46204662
Try to zoom out a bit more?
http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/write-for-black-library.html
If you guys wanted to write for Black Library, this is your chance. Rejoice, tegee, they are taking applications!
>>46204681
http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/write-for-black-library-info.html
Go go go. Submit your stories.
>>46204681
Going to submit a post about Cowardly Grot Killa Kans, and Ork boys running but not charging. Oh, and the sequel will be Ork boys finally getting to attack at I2 with S3.
>>46204714
>>46204681
Show your skill, write about murheens being dull shits.
Change the... who am i kidding.
>>46204789
Has to be about muhreens, they don't say it but it's been part of their screening for years.
I don't have the motivation to carry on painting.
I only have to complete one more walker and some highlights before I'm done.
I always say I will do it but I just carry on shitposting on /tg/
What's wrong with me?
>>46204789
>>46204832
The theme of the story they want is "Imperium of Man".
So you don't have to write about marines. You can pick and choose whatever Imperial type you want.
>>46204511
How do we make Kroot good?
My thought, semi-based on the HOR rules, is to give them Mark of Chaos esque prey traits. So for 2 points per model (or less?) they can be ork eaters and get +1 S, or Eldar eaters with +1 I. Maybe if the upgrade costs more, it could be +1 I and an extra die for deny the witch rolls.
>>46204873
>What's wrong with me?
No idea. sounds like a good position to be in
Plenty of people are happy to play with grey blobs of plastic, i don't support this idea but it seems you don't either and have done most of the hard work already.
i never paint multiple units at a time, i finish one and move on. So you should finish the easy final highlight stage and pack those models up, they are done now.
Then it's one walker, just do it and be rid of the burden.
Post some pictures or at least tell us what these models are, it might motivate you.
>>46205004
They're chaos daemons. They're not really at a very high standard, I'd call them a solid 7/10, but I like the looks of them and I put some real effort in to them as my first army getting back in to 40k. I also have some Orks but I always keep going back to daemons and collecting more of them.
I started with Nurgle and painted a greater daemon, 20 lesser daemons, a herald and a daemon prince.
Then I want on to Slaanesh and did the same.
Now I have moved on to Tzeentch. I have the 20 horrors painted but I lied about only the one walker. The Lord of change, prince and a Tzeentch soul grinder all need work but I only need the daemon prince finished for a game this weekend.
>>46204681
>>46204714
Someone make an incredibly meta story that sums up these threads.
>>46204974
>How do we make Kroot good?
Give them a non-shit formation whose minimum is 2+ Kroot units and doesn't include any faggot vespid.
Return Kroot rifles to their former stats. Give them preferred enemy Orks whilst Orks gain hatred versus them for fun and fluff. Finally, Kroot hounds can now be a separate fast attack unit.
But i'd rather see a Kroot HQ psyker over kroot themselves being changed.
>>46204679
![009_zps358a844c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Te0qEsq.jpg "009_zps358a844c[1].jpg")
So, I think I just figured out how to make IG Heavy Weapon Squads good. Honestly, someone else has probably figured this out already since it's so simple, but I think it warrants noting.
So, the big thing wrong with HWS's is their lousy leadership. This has two effects: first, it makes them bad at taking orders (with only a 58.33% chance of success) and it makes them bad at taking wounds (since there's only 3 models at T3, they end up making that 25% casualties roll a LOT).
So each problem requires a separate solution to get the most out of your cheap heavy guns, and both require a CCS to be nearby (but you were gonna do that anyway since you'll be ordering them with those juicy Senior Officer orders).
First, equip the CCS with a Regimental Standard. For 15 points, everyone in 12" rerolls morale tests. Sadly, this doesn't apply to orders, but we'll deal with that later. Your HWS has gone from a 42% chance of bolting at the first sign of trouble to a 17% chance. Pretty spiffin; they now have the same chance of running as your average squad of Necrons. But they still don't take orders well, since the reroll applies to MORALE (slash pinning slash fear), not LEADERSHIP tests, which orders test on.
The solution to THIS is to give the Company Commander Volkov's Cane, a new Heirloom of Conquest from the latest Warzone Damocles book. It's an ap4 concussive weapon (hooray...), BUT! Any order issued to a unit within 6" only fails on a TWELVE.
So, put your CCS in a chimera, give them a measly 25 points worth of upgrades, and suddenly every HWS within half a foot of the chimera's hull (an oval just under one and a half feet wide) tests morale better than space marines and successfully follows orders 97.22% of the time. Plop them behind an Aegis line for a 2+ GtG cover save, of course, so they're hard to shift AND put out a lot of pain. Obviously they're still a bit pricey for their wounds/gun count, but...eh.
Gonna try this next 40k day at my FLGS. I love gunline guard.
>>46205155
So we'll need.
>60 multi-meltas
>I2
>Walkers being bad
>>46204714
>mfw someone from /tg/ submits their favorite meme and it actually gets published
>>46205115
I like painting Soul-grinders, i have the torso sperate from the legs as it's easier to package, and means painting is a 2 stage job, flesh on top, machine on the bottom.
Never painted Tzeench but i'd assumeit's the hardest daemon. Khorne and Nurgle are simple enough to get looking good. at least a Prince is partially armour and weapons
>>46205168
Where are your highlights.
>>46204542
>dakka chosen in rhino are better
>vaguely remember Rhino fire points
>only two models can fire
That completely invalidates the point of taking a heap of guns with Chosen, I might as well give the Rhino to one of the basic CSM squads.
>>46205235
Or you can put a 50 point divination psyker in with them, it increases their leadership to 9 and he can use his powers for free rerolls which is vital for bs3.
With a bit of luck you can have twin-linked, ignores cover lascannons or twin-linked precision shot auto-cannons.
>>46205295
Do you think Rhino's are that tough?
You should be taking Rhino's on the CSM squads as well.
>>46205254
Oh I have a feeling there's more but those are good enough.
>>46205266
I painted my Tzeentch daemons to be eye shatteringly bright pink, gold and teal because I love how maddeningly bright all my Tzeentch daemons look.
The problem with the soul grinder though is it's more a unit I bought because I needed more skyfire, I didn't give all my princes wings so I needed something reliable.
>>46204974
Give them depth and options.
Right now I'm pretty sure there is only one Kroot entry in Tau book
Kroot are pretty easy to expand to Harlaquins/Militarum Tempestus tier minidex by just splitting the Generic Kroot blob unit into its pieces
Now will do that make them "good" is another question
>>46205277
I imagine still in the paintpots they would come from
The Hrud, Umbra, Rak'gol, Slaugth and Thyrrus need to be added as Dark Eldar allies. They're just too interesting to let them sit in the fluff.
Also, I noticed that Mandrakes, Hrud, Umbra, Wraithkind Kabalites, Company of the Shadow, and the Horned God (Imperial Armour v10) all share a shadow monster theme. Could they all be related to the deity Qah?
>>46205311
Nigga that's 50 points a SQUAD. Your average gunline includes two or more HWS's. To get them both to test orders on 9 (worse than the cane) and leadership on 9 (worse than the flag) and also get twin-linking (okay that's actually really nice) you'll need to pay 100 points, and unlike the CCS upgrades the cost isn't flat; it increases with every subsequent HWS you take. If you're not trying for twin-linking, it's both cheaper and more effective to take the flag and cane.
Would be a better idea to attach the psyker to a nearby 20-ma blob, and have him hand out prescience as it's needed. Upgrade him to mastery 2, then pay another 25 points to add an astropath to your CCS, and you've bought 3 warp charge for 100 points (a REALLY good price) and can attempt to twinlink both of your squads with 4-9 WC a turn. In addition, since the astropath rolls on telepathy, you get the Shriek (HILARIOUS vs enemy deep-strikers) and a 1-in-6 chance of Invisibility, which you can give to your 20-man Primaris Psyker team to make them effectively invulnerable (of course, you might have another good target for invis lying around, but he's the default).
>>46204974
Kroot are good right now. They are bland tho. Maybe cheapen krootox just a little bit and add (relevant) options for shaper, hounds and oxes.
>>46205430
>Also, I noticed that Mandrakes, Hrud, Umbra, Wraithkind Kabalites, Company of the Shadow, and the Horned God (Imperial Armour v10) all share a shadow monster theme. Could they all be related to the deity Qah?
That would explain why Mandrakes are considered daemons by Grey Knight weapons and yet the Harlequins don't exterminate them. In accordance with Hrud prophecy, Qah is gathering forces to fight Slaanesh.
>>46205398
They do have a few units, the problem is that they all have paper saves and most of them are OOP. There's the normal kroot warriors unit, which can take a shaper, krootox riders, and kroot hounds. Then there's 3 different Knarloc units in fast attack. Which also all suck.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qnoq04S.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
When are they going to fix Tyranids?
Is the answer never?
I'm starting to fear the answer is never.
>>46206132
I'm hoping soon-ish, as I'm looking to get back into the game and I love the background and models of the Nids.
>>46206132
Trust me you don't want it to happen.
Orks had formations before they got their Decurion, Tyranids have even more than that, case and point is that if you do get any 'update' it will be in the exact same style as Ghazghkull.
Don't wish for disappointment.
Alrigjt, let's talk about some Spess Mehreen chapters.
The Steel Confessors were secretly founded by the AdMech using Iron Hands Gene-Seed, and once they were found out, the AdMech reluctantly agreed to make them an official chapter, or summat like that.
>>46205780
>>46205430
The Dark Eldar codex mentions stuff about Commorragh being adjacent to a realm of shadow daemons whose touch freezes the soul and that Archon Vect summoned these creatures to punish/create the wraithkind.
The Horned God was a daemon prince with a unique shadow aesthetic. He drew cultists, daemons and even Night Lords to his banner. He was banished but still exists in the warp.
The Company of the Shadow serves an evil spirit that eats souls in the millions, leaving the victims as a mindless zombie horde the Company uses for slave labor. They're trying to create daemon worlds to extend the master's influence.
There's no explicit connection, but the implication is there.
>>46204974
Flat stealth, furious charge (which also applies to hounds and ox) kroot rifle assault 2 and counts as 2 ccw
Split kroot from krootox (which also gain relentless) and kroot hounds ala Ig platoons with the shaper as an independent character with preferred enemy (also the ability to gain 12" movement if joined to kroot hounds
>Be me
>Go to youtube
>Type in Ork battle report
>Find match
>Ork player fielding a stompa and foot slogging boys
>mfw
Okay, re-jigged the list and went for broke with the Chosen. Only question is, does mathhammer favour an extra Attack or re-rolls to Wound? If the latter just give 'em Lightning Claws.
(HQ)
Warpsmith - 125
Black Mace, Aura of Dark Glory
(Troops)
10x Chaos Marines - 170
2x Plasma Gun
10x Chaos Marines - 170
2x Plasma Gun
(Elites)
Chosen - 262
4x Power Weapon
Mark of Slaanesh
Icon of Excess
Champion w/ Power Weapon
Rhino w/ Dirge Caster, Havoc Launcher
Ferrum Infernus Chaos Dreadnought 165
Destroyer of Cities
(Heavy Support)
5x Havocs - 235
4x Missile Launcher
ADL w/ quad gun
Forgefiend - 175
2x Hades Autocannons
Chaos Predator - 115
Lascannon sponsons
ALLIED DETACHMENT - Skitarii Maniple
(Troops)
5x Rangers 125
2x Arbequs, Omnispex
5x Rangers 125
2x Arbequs, Omnispex
(Elites)
5x Infiltrators 195
Flechettes & Goads
Princeps w/ Conversion Field
(Fast Attack)
3x Dragoons 135
Radium Jezzails
1997
>>46206497
FUN
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>>46206505
Those Chosen are getting close to full retard. Keep going with it.
>>46206646
I think you need to resize your fuckhuge image and take that shit over to /WIP/
>>46206301
>There's no explicit connection, but the implication is there.
Lets hope it stay like that, but knowing GW it'll be "no relation, dark eldar are just being silly, hrud don't exists, the one chaos are worshipping is really Bela'kor"
>>46206646
Rotate, resize, learn how to get shit in focus and use a backdrop.
Discussion Topic:
Choose one thing from a codex you do not play that you believe needs improvement/buffs.
I've never played 'Nids but I've thought for a long time that Carnifexes deserve to be the lumbering terrifying death machines of old. No ranged weapons save perhaps a bio-plasma attack. I guess mostly I want Screamer-Killers back.
>>46206307
Flat stealth or choose one terrain type a the start (ruins, forests, etc) but rest of those are bit too much for an 6p model. And making them more expensive takes their role of cheap numerous utility/harassment unit.
>Watch StrikingScorpion they said
>He does good battle reports they said
>>46206851
>Is it too much to ask to just ignore the image entirely and maybe address the post?
Yes.
Rule 0 of 4chan.
>>46206867
Maybe something more simple, like giving Kroot Rifles +1 strength in the first round of combat to make them more useful there, and being able to buy Shotgun rounds for a 12" assault profile so they can actually shoot and charge?
>>46206685
Yeah, fuck it, you're right. For the same cost I can pimp out Terminators and end up with much the same stats except 2+/5++. I've got a bunch of old Chosen I made with a bunch of bionic claws and shit, but I'll just have to run them as basic pistol+CCW Chosen because melee upgrades are just too much.
>power weapons the same price as lightning claws
>>46206896
I NEVER said that, he's better than most, but that said most are shit.
TTT is the way to go.
>>46206913
So long, see you Saturday.
>>46206913
DELETE THIS
Has anyone noticed the trend of OC space marine chapters being secretly heretical and OC chaos marine warbands being secretly loyal?
We recently had a campaign game where 'chaos' space marines attacked a 'loyal' space marine chapter for being heretical.
Has anyone else seen games like this?
>>46206916
Shotguns sounds fun and maybe shaper could call mini waagh (furious charge) once per game for his unit. Real kicker would be emp/krak grenades upgrade.
>>46207165
Man, now you really made me want some KKK Scouts to go with my Waffen SS Panzer IG and Gestapo Inquisition...
>>46207165
coolest ultramarines ever
>>46207186
Letting the Shaper give his unit Furious Charge for a turn could be fun. You could potentially include other special rules as well and fluff it as them eating different species.
I forget, do Kroot have frag grenades?
>>46207165
>Has anyone noticed the trend of OC space marine chapters being secretly heretical and OC chaos marine warbands being secretly loyal?
I fluffed up my own DA Successor and left it very wide open for them to fall to chaos or not. Since their story is still ongoing I don't know which way it will fall.
>Has anyone else seen games like this?
Another DA player and myself made an alliance with Daemons to kill some CSM and are not going after some Ultras and White Scars for having witnessed our alliance.
What's the most obnoxious faction in 40k, and why is it Farsight Enclaves?
>muh wargear
>>46207212
Kill yourself, tia.
>>46207311
We don't take kindly to your xeno-loving type around here in the Imperium, boy...
Once you've been green'd you can't be redeemed.
>started pic related in 2012
>finished yesterday
how good are trukk boyz now? how about 'ard boyz?
>>46207297
tau and eldar in general
>>46207432
They're thoroughly okay for their points.
Anyone got any examples of what in-universe Imperial chants/music would sound like? Gregorian chants sound too... happy
>>46207433
Stay mad ;^}
>>46207432
According to general consensus trukk boys are bad because roughly 110p over two units should be able to tank at least 1000p of shooting and trukk boys can't do it.
'Ard boyz are bad because they are too expensive.
>>46207432
That a DIY conversion or the Fw kit?
>>46207547
lol that last thread was absurd.
>My 30pt trukk doesn't have a 3+ save!
>It's garbage!
>>46207616
That's what you got from "downgrading a pen to a gland on a 6+ is not even worth rolling for"?
>>46207432
Goddamn son that looks fucking ace.
>>46207538
i meant from a fluff perspective but their rules are bullshit too :^)
>space elves
>space fish-weebs
gay af 2bh :^)
>>46207616
Tell me about it.
>IG player wishes he had trukks
>>46207652
You must not have read the whole thread.
The proposed rule was to let them downgrade a pen to a glance on a 3+. Because a fast transport that you can assault out of for only 30pts wasn't good enough.
>>46207693
Same. It'd make mech vets more useful and cheaper.
>>46207593
FW kit. Very nice one
>>46207506
I would imagine like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpZsPzBPlEw
>>46206913
>mutant beastmen wearing the sacred armour of the Adeptus Astartes and Adepta Sororitas
>>46207672
Fluff wise I actually like the Farsight Enclaves. Some Tau coming too and wising up about the weird Etheral stuff is cool. I could get behind the Tau, as the newbie fresh face in the galaxy if it weren't for the whole over the top communist Stalin did nothing wrong utopia thing.
>>46206913
The thing that really trigger me about this is that back in 1973Robin Hoodthey were just anthropomorphized animals, the classic thing that you may find in a children book/cartoon
Now they are furry
>>46207903
>wanting mary sues
>>46207297
Tau are the most annoying because of their playerbase. The hobby in general attracts a lot of fairly obtuse, self-centered, socially inept people.. but the Tau playerbase seems to be *almost* exclusively populated by idiots.
I have a good friend that plays Tau. After this latest update he decided to shelf the army for the time being. He's been playing his Orks and Dark Eldar for the past few months.
>>46207941
Nice umbrella faggot
>>46207538
I dont think people are genuinely mad. It's more that we are disappointed that people like you share an interest with us. It's kind of embarrasing to have something in common with a guy like you. But hey, tell yourself whatever you have to in order to get through the day. Perhaps one day you'll mature.
>>46207935
They're already mary sues, m8.
I'd be fine with a Newbie race, that has to actually deal with societal problems instead of just getting an "everyone is happy and productive" hand wave.
>>46207941
This doesn't help either.
>>46207941
Tau appeal to weebs because of their mech look. That should explain pretty much anything.
>>46207941
nah fish weeb commies are terrible..
i could get beyond some new xeno race to exterminate, but they should be cool, and not stupid weeb commies.
like the hrud, the hrud should be a supported xeno race and the tau should be squatted.
>>46207985
He's right though. I've got a budy that plays tau. I love the guy but he's an asshat. He wins most of the games he plays against my IG and my other buddy's Nids, but just decided his list wasn't competitive enough, so he bought three Riptides.
>>46207903
>>46207935
The lore can be cherry-picked for the parts you like, or disregarded altogether.
The easy mode codex though. Tau have the game handed to them on a silver platter. They basically deploy and play yahtzee. Very little decision making involved with that army, as compared to others - even Eldar. I'd be embarrased to field a Tau army.
Looking at how their rules are designed - it's pretty clear they are aiming at youngsters, or waac manchildren. Both demographics have plenty of big robot anime weaboo fans. Tau players remind me of MtG people.
>>46208104
That's funny. I have this buddy that plays IG and he sucks my dick after every game. Obviously all IG players are cocksucking faggots.
>>46207985
Tau player giving the stereotype credence.
>>46208206
ur really disproving that stereotype :^)
Who /Daemons/ here?
I play Tau. I keep to CADs and the only suits I field are a 3 man squad of Crisis. Other than that it's all Fire Warriors, Piranhas, Skyrays, Devilfishes and the dreaded Tau flyers. Oh and my HQ is a Coldstar. I lose a lot.
Am I still a That Guy?
>>46208206
$20 says this guy
>is a bronze league of legends player
>doesnt have an education past high school
>has anime playing right now
>lives in his parents' house
>no job
>>46208254
WHAT UP
>>46208279
You are as rare as a three dollar bill my man.
>>46208254
Here.
So many Horrors to paint.
>>46204714
Is the Munitorum supply drop decent?
>>46206773
GW always overlooks the interesting possibilities. Why they do that?
An alliance of Dark Eldar, shadow daemons, and some miscellaneous fluff xenos would only ever be an improvement. For the latter two, anyhow.
>>46208172
Tau are only autopilot if you build them to be. I've had very intense games both as and against Tau where lots of decision making was involved by both sides.
Of course if you just plop down 5 Riptides on your boardedge you aren't going to have to try very hard.
>>46208279
Don't you understand? From the very moment you wrote "I play Tau" you have revealed yourself as a faggot, weaboo, WAAC, easy-mode players, killer of Jesus, communist, Canadian, That Guy and assholein this precise order
>>46208254
Painting a mono-nurgle army right now.
18 nurgling bases
50 plaguebearers
12 plague drones
3 plague toads w/riders (beasts of nurgle)
FW GUO
FW DP
3 heralds- standard, FW, WHFB
>>46207616
>He thinks Trukks are good
They could be fucking 5 points and they're still utter garbage.
Laughinggrots.jpg
>>46208234
>>46208295
Looks like I hit a nerve. Have you come out to your parents yet? It's ok, being gay is somewhat acceptable these days.
>>46208362
>From the very moment you wrote "I play Tau" you have revealed yourself as a faggot, weaboo
this are universal to all tau players 2bh
>>46208381
i mean just look at this guy :^)
>>46208206
I wish.
>tfw no IG playing bf to suck dick after game
When Inquisitors wear power armour or TDA do they have to have a black carapace and other gene stuff or is it more like they modify it to fit humans with their influence and resources?
>>46208381
>somewhat acceptable
I guess we should add homophobic bigot to the list of common traits the Tau playerbase possesses.
>all this tau hate
All your tears are so fucking delicious losers
>>46208367
I know this is hyperbole, but you're still retarded.
>>46208441
The latter. The same for the Adepta Sororitas and their power armor.
The black carapace is used to make the armor "act" together with the wearer, making them faster. The Sororitas and the inquisitors, instead, will be slightly slowed down by it
>>46208441
They make non-spacemarine power armor.
How much money am I looking to spend to make a newbie squad/army? I've got some disposable income from my tax return and I'm lookin to pop my cherry and blow it on overpriced GW stuff.
>>46207616
I'm sorry. I can't hear you over the sound of completely free rhinos.
>>46208455
not tears friend. If you havent noticed we are embarrased and ashamed of you. We still accept you, albeit reluctantly. Theres hope for everyone, most people change and mature over time. Just because you're an idiot right now, doesnt mean you're a bad person.
>>46208457
Free Rhinos say what?
>>46208441
Only marines get the black carapace.
>>46208455
>calls others losers
>doesn't even end his sentence with a period
>>46208527
Who gets free rhinos?
>>46208533
Keep trying to damage control faglord
I know you're trying your damndest to not cry like a little bitch all over your keyboard
Can we talk about dark heresy and rogue trader here? I'm lookin for some tips on DMing.
>>46208583
All the good chapters.
>>46208206
That's weird because I legit know two IG players that are gay. One has the death korps from FW even.
>>46208455
>takes pleasure in the percieved misfortune of others
>thinks 40k the game is an actual competition
>calls people losers in a /tg/ thread on an anonymous messageboard
>drowning in irony so hard its unironically ironic
>>46208573
>Caring about punctuation on a fucking imageboard
Kill yourself autist
>>46208482
>>46208478
Cheers, on an unrelated not are Barrels of monkeys still possible? with the new Skitarii stuff missing a HQ I'm thinking of taking an Inquisitor with monkey lascannons to fuck shit up.
>>46208583
Space Marines and Dark AngelsAnd most likely Blood Angels too when they will receive their decurion, while the SW have to make do with furious charge and fear, since GW needs to show how great the Codex Astartes isI'm still salty about that
>>46208583
only the best
i like free drop pods more though :^)
>>46208601
Damage control? I think you might be delusional man. Relax, dont take it soseriously.
>>46208636
>buzzwords
Top kek
>>46208583
>Thinks improved Ramshackle is cheesy
>Doesn't know SM get free Rhinos
>Doesn't know the game or current meta.
Time to be quiet.
>>46208667
You sure are though.
>>46207783
Well, when the transport is as likely to die to small arms as the passengers, and likely to cause more damage to said passengers than small arms in question, not to mention them then being lefts in the open cowering from pinning even before casualties....
For armies with passable saves trukks are a thing of envy, hell, if orks had affordable armour they'd be far better.
But ramshackle as is, is pointless, it'll only do any good if the trukk is hit by a single penetrating hits and then saves that, if more than one shoot is fired, chances are it's a wreck anyway, I'll take the 5++ forgeworld Ramshackle grants.
>>46207857
Very nice, but WAY over costed.
It's Mek gun bad.
>>46208726
Orks should be renamed to
Codex: 5+
>>46204511
>>46208807
It was beautiful.
>>46208771
I know, that's why i have a small elder list, for when you just want to succeed at everything but saves on 2+.
>>46208807
So it was a 3+ to ignore pens then :^)
>>46208817
>>46208807
Old Lootas & looted tank rules back too.
>>46208705
Because a formation gets something for free doesn't make other stuff bad. That'd be like saying that Russes are bad, Mechanicus gets free stuff.
PLASMA VOMIT EDITION:
Plan is to rush the Chosen Rhino forward turn 1, pop smoke, burst open a juicy-looking transport with a mixture of Krak missiles and Arquebus fire, then plasma the fuck out of whatever was inside the next turn. Do a drive-by with the mounted CSM squad to be an even bigger prick.
(HQ)
Warpsmith - 125
Black Mace, Aura of Dark Glory
(Troops)
10x Chaos Marines - 205
2x Plasma Gun
Rhino w/ Havoc Launcher
10x Chaos Marines - 170
2x Plasma Gun
(Elites)
Chosen - 217
4x Plasma Gun
Champion w/ Combi-Plasma
Rhino w/ Combi-Plasma, Havoc Launcher
Ferrum Infernus Chaos Dreadnought 165
Destroyer of Cities
(Heavy Support)
5x Havocs - 235
4x Missile Launcher
ADL w/ quad gun
Forgefiend - 175
2x Hades Autocannons
Chaos Predator - 115
Lascannon sponsons, Havoc Launcher
ALLIED DETACHMENT - Skitarii Maniple
(Troops)
5x Rangers 125
2x Arbequs, Omnispex
5x Rangers 125
2x Arbequs, Omnispex
(Elites)
5x Infiltrators 195
Flechettes & Goads
Princeps w/ Conversion Field
(Fast Attack)
3x Dragoons 135
Radium Jezzails
1997
>>46208841
R.I.P Boomgun.
>>46204873
Nothing, your the typical /tg/ poster on 40k/wip. The guy who sticks around complaining about rules instead of painting. The guy who always posts the same wip picture from like 3 years ago, never finishing the project you begin. The guy always talking about OP teams referring to mathammer because you never have the time or motivation to actually play the game. Your the guy trolling post of hobbyists encouraging to WYSIWYG and playing fully painted, because you know deep down you don't have the heart for it yourself.
Theres nothing wrong with you, you're the spirit of this forum as it stands today. #/tg/´sdegenerativeyouthruinsthehobby
Reminder that you don't get furious charge bonus for disordered charges.
Have fun S3 Orks :^)
>>46208897
>Boomgun
Pff, I'l talking classic literal looted russes, fire prisms and land raiders.
BS2, "Don't push that" and Ork upgrades, otherwise straight outta the parent codexes.
Can we just change the name to Ork Whining general now?
>>46208947
Hey I've got an idea, you take my army and I'll take your army, then you play my army and lose for a year straight (remember you've put a lot of money into this), and then at the end of that year we'll discuss how you feel!
Yeah?
>>46208365
Muh Nurgga
Shit I have:
Great Unclean One
Blight Drone
28 of the previous incarnation of metal Plaguebearers and 10 more of the new plastics.
21 Nurgling bases (a mix of the last three versions of Nurglings)
6 semi-custom Beasts of Nurgle under construction (pic realted)
Epidemius
A custom Herald on Palanquin under construction
The newer plastic Herald of Nurgle
An armored Daemon Prince, a winged Daemon Prince
A Soul Grinder conversion under construction.
Of that, only 14 metal Plaguebearers, the GUO, and the Blight Drone are 100% painted.
And now I've made myself sad with how much of my shit is at varying degree of completion.
>>46208807
>>46208817
To be fair, when comparing it to the latest and greatest of Eldar Codexes, it wouldn't even be a discussion to put the ramshackle on all ork vehicles (walker, heavy, fast... you name it!), and make it a "on a 3+ you downgrade it to a glancing hit", this would actually be in line with what counts as a legal option these days, its silly I know, but its still would be "fair" when you check with the authors of codex Opdar (oh.. I'm sorry... did I spell that out wrong?).
>>46205235
Cant give orders from a vehicle
Nice try though
>>46209157
Isn't there a comms upgrade for the Chimera that lets them do exactly that?
>>46204681
Time to submit that Ciaphas Cain sex-fic I've been working on.
>>46209209
It'll been an improvement from what they've been churning out. Do it, Anon.
>>46209019
Most of the shitposters likely dont even play the game.
>>46209157
Chimeras have special rule that allows orders.
>want to buy some characters
>they are all in shitcast
FUCKING FIX THIS SHITCAST SHIT ALREADY GW YOU FUCKS
STOP MAKING GOD DAMN AGE OF SHITMAR GARBAGE AND FIX THE FUCKING FINECAST ALREADY
JUST GO BACK TO METAL, FUCK
>>46209171
I stand corrected i just looked at the codex and they have a special rules allowing officers to give order from within.
10 points for Griffindor
>>46209381
Patience is a virtue, anon. They are resolving that issue. Recently we received plastic Ulrik and Iron Priest
>>46209261
Yep i stand corrected, you are right good sir!
>>46209157
>Nice try though
Read the rules you snarky little faggot.
>>46209449
Plastic Kommandos Now.
Love the sculpts, hate the resin.
>>46204511
Are there any other miniature games comparable to 40k? Is there a 9th age equivalent of 40k?
>>46209381
Wait, so shitcast is already getting phased out?
TOP KEK.
>still doesn't un-fuck the Overlord mini I bought in 2011
>>46209449
>Recently we received plastic Ulrik and Iron Priest
Of course this would be more useful if they'd made some units people might use, but hey it's a start
>>46209381
>>46209533
Go contract AIDS you bumloving meat slopper
>>46209897
yeah
this time i just want to buy some old BT characters without having to deal with shitcast... ive given up on CSM ever getting new things
Is it weird that Space Marine players are the Minority in my store? There are only 2.
>>46207297
Imperium of Man since it is infected by "Humanity Fuck Yeah!" wannabe space nazis.
>>46210181
What other players are there?
>>46210261
Necrons, Orks, Tyranids, Tau. It's basically Xenos store with the exception of two IG players.
>>46206132
When they fix Chaos Space Marine
A.K.A. Never
>>46210291
looks like a nice community, if the tau isnt a waac faggot then it's great.
I cant literally stand anymore faggots yelling unironically FOR THE EMPRAH every fucking time they roll a die.
>>46209725
No. Every other game is boring in comparison. 40k has the best story on the market. The only downside is the atrocious rules and the price gouging. So the hobby pretty much sucks.
What channel should I watch to learn Tau tactics/strategy while I paint?
>>46210518
>Tau
>tactics
Pick one
>>46210594
;~]
>>46210518
The first lesson is learning to employ your markerlights. The second lesson is to learn to Move-Shot-Hide with jetpack units.
>>46210632
Well I've got that, but I mean more of what units should I be using to attack what, list building tips,etc.
>>46210685
This is basic shit man are you new to 40k or something. Especially with an army as braindead as Tau. Unless your army is like Kroot and Vespid only or something.
>>46210685
strikingscorpion82 on youtube
warning, he is an autistic fag, but you shouldve known that because he plays tau and eldar. :^)
>>46210945
He's way in to Orks right now.
>>46208622
What about it? I've run first edition Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, and Deathwatch (currently ongoing). I've run some one-shots with Black Crusade.
>>46210945
That guy is a fluff player. He's good for watching forged narrative and nice terrain/armies but I wouldn't watch him to get better at the game.
Tinkering around with changes/additions for my War Convocation.
The core of what I have is:
Battle Maniple
10x Vanguard - 3x Plasma
5x Rangers - 2x Arquebus
5 Stalkers
5 Infiltrators
Ironstrider
Onager - Icarus Array
Cult Mechanicus
Tech Priest Dominus
3x Grav Kataphron
3x Grav Kataphron
Knight
Knight Crusader - Battle Cannon, Rocket Pod
Flesh Tearers
Sanguinary Priest
5x Scouts
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Drop Pod
Inquisitor
Ordo Malleus - Psyocculum, 3x Servo Skulls
I have 56 points left over - I'm considering a few of the following:
-Drop the Psyocculum - swap the Flesh Tearers to Raven Guard - add a scout squad (for CAD) and a character w/hunter's eye to beef up a kataphron unit. The negative here being I no longer am maintaining any ant-psyker tools outside volume of fire.
-Add a second Ironstrider - simple enough, just a second move 9" Las Cannon. The downside is it makes the Ironstrider unit more of a target and they take up a bigger foot print.
-Give the Sang. Priest an auspex and melta bomb, give the Knight Mask of the Omnisiah, add 1 Ranger. This gives whichever Kataphron unit the Priest is hanging out with -1 cover to their target, ITWND to my Knight (making him more durable), and just another body for the rangers. This is the most piecemeal option so it feels like it lacks direction.
Thoughts?
Anyone know what channel is good for nid tactics?
>>46210841
I've only played for about 2 years, but my first army was GK, I was building Tau before the new codex and and only have about 3 matches with them, so Tau is a HUGE change for me from GK. But yes, I'm a considerable newbie when it comes to strategy/listbuilding.
>>46208851
Buy the fifth Plasma Gun, fagtard.
Stop copy-pasting unit entries with outdated loadouts.
>have no transport models at all
time to foot slog my marines against my buddy's nids
my flamers will never get in range and he'll get to laugh at my need to have as many flamers as possible no matter what im fighting
>>46211072
>playing for two years
>considerable newbie with strategy and list-building
Get a new hobby. This isn't a good choice for the mentally handicapable.
>>46211170
>print off paper drop pods
>print them in the right chapter color
>use gladius strikeforce
>take 9 of them for free
>'lol they are free in points and in $ haha'
do it
>>46211193
I've got maybe 16 games split between GK and Tau under my belt in those 2 years and at least 8 months of those I was slowly building my GK force. I don't get to play every week and just about every time I played I tried a new list to see what works for me.
>>46211214
Just buy one for LoS purposes and use Gatorade bottles or whatever for the others.
>>46211214
i might make some paper drop pods and just throw them at him from across our apartment....
>>46211193
>>46210841
Eat cocks
>>46211214
I could not imagine having the will to buy, assemble and paint 9 drop pods, that kit is so dull.
Maybe, maybe if I had an airbrush.
>>46211214
I kinda want to make wooden rhinos.
>>46211245
Read your Tau codex units and wargear entirely. I assume you've already done this.
Now look at any 3 top 16 Tau lists from 2016.
From there, it should be plain as day how to play Tau. There is no hidden nuance specific to the Tau faction on how to play them well. The army's rules carries itself. Any special tricks you can do with Tau you can do with anyone else. You don't even need to cascade markerlights anymore because who the fuck even needs to with Stormsurges and Riptide Wing.
>>46208488
A couple hundred bucks at least. What army are you looking into collecting, anon?
>>46211357
Make wooden trukks for feral orks
>it works because they think it do
How's this look for Black Templar?
HQ:
* The Emperor's Champion. [140]
ELITES:
* Sword Brethren Terminators: 7 Assault Terminators w/ 4 Thunder Hammers and Storm Shields & 3 Pairs of Lightning Claws. [250]
TROOPS:
* Crusader Squad (5x Initiates) w/ Power Sword. Mounted in a Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-Melta. [345]
* Crusader Squad (5x Initiates) w/ Power Sword. Mounted in a Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-Melta. [345]
* Neophyte Squad (1x Sergeant and 9x Neophytes) w/ 10 Sniper Rifles and Camo Cloaks. [140]
HEAVY SUPPORT:
* Thunderfire Cannon. [100]
* Thunderfire Cannon. [100]
~ Storm Wing ~
FAST ATTACK:
* Stormtalon Gunship w/ TL-Assault Cannon and Skyhammer Missile Launcher. [115]
* Stormtalon Gunship w/ TL-Assault Cannon and Skyhammer Missile Launcher. [115]
HEAVY SUPPORT:
* Stormraven Gunship w/ TL-Assault Cannon, TL-Multi Melta, and 4 Stormstrike Missiles. [200]
Total Points: [1850]
>>46211344
it would be fun as fuck to play with though. but yeah paying $250 on drop pods and then painting them would be painful.
>>46211006
How many points is this total? Gives me an idea of how big a force this would go against.
I'd say another Ironstrider since you're kinda lacking in anti-tank save for the Rangers.
>>46211385
That's up to ork players, I gotta work myself up to work on this already.
>>46211458
You're only putting 5 guys in each land raider? I assume the point of this is to get two AV14 tanks with ObSec.
>>46211549
1850.
>>46210685
Just put Crisis, Riptides, Stormsurges on the table and roll dice. You'll win 60%+ of your games without moving a single unit. No, JSJ does not count as moving you delusional little weebs.
The army is targeted at kids and retards. If you cant dominate anything short of a tourney level competitive meta, then its because you rolled terribly. The codex is built to carry players that cant think tactically in the slightest.
>>46211078
>there's a fifth plasma gun among the heavy weapon options
Gahhh, I'm not copy-pasting unit entries, I'm just fucking blind.
>>46211603
Really? Is that why the Pred has a free Havoc and the Apostle still has the Black Mace?
I got Betrayal at Calth a while ago and plan to build a Dark Angels army focusing on the Greenwing. What's a good 1,500pt list to build based off Calth's contents, with or without the terminator elements given their fairly shitty loadouts?
>>46209954
>reply with shitty attitude
>be incorrect
>get called out on it, with shitty attitude
>hey fuck you only I'm allowed to be an asshole
>>46211635
Brb, shooting self.
>>46211650
The DA should have a greenwing equivalent to Battle Company.
>>46211559
Pretty much, yeah.
>>46211650
Three tactical squads, a contemptor dread, and a Librarian.
This also looks entertaining, if screwed vs gunlines:
~ Combined Arms Detactment ~
HQ:
* High Marshal Helbrecht. [180]
TROOPS:
6x Neophyte Squad (1x Veteran Sergeant and 4x Scouts) w/ 1 Power Sword. Mounted in a Land Speeder Storm w/ Multi-Melta. [130 each]
HEAVY SUPPORT:
* Stormraven Gunship w/ TL-Assault Cannon, TL-Multi Melta, and 4 Stormstrike Missiles. [200]
* Centurian Devastator Squad (1x Sergeant and 2x Centurians) w/ 3 Grav-Cannons, 3 Hurricane Bolters, and 1 Omniscope. [250]
~ Raptor Wing ~
FAST ATTACK:
* Stormtalon Gunship w/ TL-Assault Cannon and Skyhammer Missile Launcher. [115]
* Stormtalon Gunship w/ TL-Assault Cannon and Skyhammer Missile Launcher. [115]
* Land Speeder Squadron (3x Land Speeders) w/ 3 Heavy Bolters and 3 Typhoon Missile Launchers. [210]
Total Points: [1850]
>>46211734
that's a lot of big guys in planes
>>46211734
cant they take the gladius? just drown them in pods
>>46211734
>>46209381
What is ebay?
>>46211839
yeah... im not going to pay $60 for some shit ill have to zipstrip mud off of :^)
>>46206846
You can bring screamer-killers still. The thing that makes fexes not unstoppable death machines right now, is the inability to take a 2+ save except on a Tyrannofex(not that its a bad unit, but it is a template spammer, not a close combat fighter).
I should use these as a basis for Tau Battle Suit conversions, right /tg/?
>>46211859
>Implying shit is even close to that expensive
>Implying metal models aren;t the easiest thing to strip paint from
>Implying you're not whining for the sake of whining at this point
>>46211635
Okay, drank some coffee and cleared up the unit entries.
-Black Mace is gone, although I already removed the points cost
-CSM squad on foot traded plasma guns for a Heavy Bolter
-Chosen now have 5x plasma guns
-Predator is now paying for the havoc launcher
Final tally 1996pts
>>46205235
Or just include a LD bubble character....
>>46211881
tyrannofex costs too much beign just a template spammer.
he is also so much fun to bring in games, people not used to play against nids shit themselves when they look at it because the model(and the 2+) make him look threatening.
then they notice he is barely useful.
how I wish my fexes could make it in c/c...
>>46211588
Poor little bitch can't yandle
>>46211917
Drop the Havocs, grab a Rhino for the other CSM squad. Get their second Plasma Gun back. Grab Draznicht's Ravagers for the Chosen.
>>46211909
>Implying shit is even close to that expensive
pretty much is. cheapest ive found is metal lysander for is like $40 + shipping
>>46211959
I have a Tau army in my collection, I just have too much self respect to put it on the table. Or buy a Stormsurge.
>>46212117
Guess you're a kid and/or retard then ;^)
>>46211986
Yeah no, the Havocs are staying. Pic related. I'll see if I can shave 10pts for the Ravagers.
Just got this motherfucker and a csm typhon heavy siege tank.
If I cannot beat them with the stock codex, then I am going to bring more firepower via other means.
>>46206913
Fucking heretic!
>>46212279
>Havocs
Run them as Chaos Rapier weapon teams if you're going that all-out with them
>>46212301
>that model design
ALL SHALL FEAR MY DICK-GUN AND DESPAIR!!!
>>46212316
Lol pray to your corpse human.
>>46212397
Who's praying now?
>>46211897
I don't think ROB was meant to be a Tau suit.
>>46211656
>Double check rules see im wrong
>State that im corrected in both replies and admit wrongness
>Get called snarky faggot
>Fuck You
>>46212455
Lol you killed a scrub. He had it coming anyway.
>>46212378
See the other head.
>>46212593
And you posted a loser with bionics that barely keep him alive.
>>46212602
"By the end of M41, Huron is the second most powerful Chaos Lord in the galaxy after Abaddon himself; a fact that annoys Abby to no end, not least because Huron has not been subtle in hiding his ambition to take Abbadon's place as Warmaster. Not only this but Huron did it FAST, as in, in the space of several decades, since the Badab War only ended in 912.M41 so he's a relative newcomer in the grand scheme of things, but he's accumulated more power faster than many more well established warlords."
>>46212301
dont forget to use invisibility :^)
>>46212712
He ain't no gigga nigga. Tyberos > Blackheart. In all seriousness he has horrible bionics. Read the Night Lord series. He has to have surgery to stay alive.
>>46212779
>that image name
Maybe not the Emperor
But a Baneblade could.
>>46208943
Remember that Disordered Charges result only from Multi-Charging. Get ready fer a krumpin'.:^)fgt
Is 750 pts a good target to start playing?
I choose Astra Militarum as my first army and so far have thirty Veterans, two Chimeras, a Commissar, a Leman Russ and a Wyvern.
> Friend brings a fucking Macharius super heavy to a friendly game
> Gets mad and throws a bitchfit when i bring Smashfucker&co
>>46212816
I doubt a Baneblade could. The worst part is that this is basically shopping for Tyberos. One theory is that the Space Sharks are so brutal is so they have an easier time getting new supplies.
