If Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, only that it does, why does he hate magic? It seems just as able to produce blood as bolters and swords.
>>46194347
Because fuck you. That's why.
>>46194347
>khorne
>posts word bearer
>>46194347
Nah, most Chaos magic burns the enemy. That cauterizes it, keeps blood from flowing.
>>46194347
Khorne is about earned skill.
Psychic bullshit isn't earn, you're born with it. Khorne hates.
In WHFB Khorne is a godly Runesmith, hammering magic runes into armor and weapons. It takes skill to make Magic Runes.
>>46194347
He also values honor and courage. He finds that running around casting psychics/magic is craven. If you see his powers granted to his followers, sometimes they impact the world as though they were magic - as long as they're out there drawing blood.
>>46194418
But it takes as much skill and dedication to become a wizard in Fantasy as it does to become a great warrior. Maybe even more.
Similarly in 40k. Being a sorcerer takes dedication, huge willpower, and rigorous practice.
>>46194459
In 40k is different the Psycker gene determines if you can wield the power of the Warp, Khorne doesn't like that.
But like ritual shit that kills people may be ok in Khorne's eyes because it isn't gene based.
>>46194347
Because as fuckmothering angry as Khorne is he still knows blood isn't supposed to come out of the walls.
>>46194347
Because if Khorne took in all honorable and bloodthirsty psykers that would leave Tzeentch with no main theme at all. You're asking why Conan or Drizzt isn't a master sorcerer as well as their current abilities.
>>46194522
It's more or less confirmed that things like rituals and summonings are okay, since there's a Khornate warband that practices daemonomancy called The Sanctified. They're actually my favorite mostly because they actually have a slightly different color scheme.
>>46194347
40k fluff contradicts itself, more news at 11.
>>46194347
Because it doesn't fit into his Code.
His code that totally isn't a code of honor despite resembling one in every way.
>>46194347
Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, basically means that bloodshed in all forms empowers him, it does not matter who is shedding it or who's is being shredded, but that doesn't mean he has to like it. For example is there any relatively healthy food that you greatly dislike the flavor of? I believe that its like kinda like that.
>>46194816
Khorne isn't fed by blood. He's fed like the rest of the True Gods, emotion.
Blood is just the most common biproduct of Khorne's emotional food.
>>46194347
Magic is cowardice. Blood is cool, but he's also about bravery and martial prowess. What is more bitch made than throwing spells at someone from far away?
>>46194347
Why stop there? Spilled blood on the ground only flows for a moment. Surely we can optimize the process.
Let's build a blood-flowing machine that circulates the same blood as long as possible!
Or cut back on senseless killing, because blood already flows through bodies anyway!
>>46194906
>What is more bitch made than throwing spells at someone from far away?
Shooting him with a gun? At least to be a mage/sorceror/wizard you need discipline and stuff. Meanwhile, any idiot can shoot a gun.
>>46194906
>Khorne dislikes magic because it's cowardly
Killing children from a mile away with a sniper rifle? That's the pinnacle of bravery.
Any blood used in sorcery is essentially spent and falls under the perview of Tzeetch.
>>46195045
It's not used in sorcery though, it's picking up a rock with telekinesis and throwing it.
Could a psyker become a Khorne minion if they completely suppress their psyker powers and only use regular killing methods? Plus why doesn't ranged weaponry bother him?
>>46195093
Ranged weapons still require a lot of martial skill.
If someone with the Psyker gene completely ignored and suppressed their genetic gift Khorne might love the ever loving shit out of them just to piss Tzeentch off. Or smite them in his blood fueled unholy godly rage.
>>46195093
As long as they only use their sorcery for rituals outside of combat, Khorne won't have as much issue, so long as you break out the axe for a real fight.
As for ranged weapons not bothering him, I think it's more just a chain of preferences.
Khorne likes melee between skilled warriors the best, since that's where rage and bloodshed are at their strongest.
Next, enjoys ranged weapons and more typical warfare, since open war like that does still have a lot of angry emotions, and the blood still gets spilled rather efficiently.
From there, he likes the killing of civilians and weak opponents. It's not as fun since one side isn't fighting back at all, so there isn't as much rage on both sides, but blood is blood, and skulls are skulls.
Sorcery is at the lowest level, because no matter how you go about it, it requires drawing on the power of the warp. In this way, you're effectively asking Khorne to kill someone for you, or borrowing his strength rather than relying on your own. There's probably also a vendetta against Tzeentch driving this as well.
Of course, that last point raises the question of why he lets people summon Daemons using sorcery, but that's more of a case of letting him in on the action, rather than asking him to do your job.
>>46194522
>Khorne doesn't like that.
But he is okay with space marines who are far stronger, tougher, and faster fighting for him despite the fact that they just have a special organ shoved in them?
>>46195372
I guess? But they're generally massively skilled as well.
Put the training and experience of a Chaos Space Marine into the body of a normal human, they'll still kick ass.
>>46194347
Think of it this way,
Whenever a sorcerer casts a spell, he is taking energy from the warp.
That energy is not his own, it belongs to the denizens of the warp.
He is effectively stealing power so he doesn't have to work, and that's lazy.
Khorne doesn't mind magic, he hates it when people use magic, which doesn't belong to them in the first place, and claim that it's their own skill.
If you use magic to make your axe catch on fire so you can burn while you chop, that's fine and a-okay.
Even if you use a nuclear launch or direct a battle from the sidelines, that's fine, as it's your ability that enables the killing.
Khorne lore is weird. On one hand, he hates sorcery (because it's Tzeentch's domain, being his magic), and likely psychic powers in general. And we know that he hates temples and shrines, preferring worship through battle.
But at the same time, sometimes you see instances where there's a Khornate Sorcerer. Or like during the 1st War for Armageddon, where Angron had to spend a bunch of time building shrines to Khorne just so his daemon army could stick around. Not very Khornate, but there was a reason for it.
>>46195570
He hates magic because Tzeentch essentially made magic, at least in 40k. In Fantasy you could argue differently, since it's all the winds of magic.
Doesn't care where it comes from, but does care about how it comes.
Its about martial skill, rather than mental skill, straight forward tests of strength at arms rather than subterfuge and subtle arts of the arcane. Magic that makes you a better warrior is fine, because it makes you a warrior. Magic that lets you avoid being a warrior is bad. But once you get past the honour code because that's mostly a good way to trick people who are good at killing into killing more until killing is all they know or care about, its about bloodandbloodandblood and if you're turning people into frogs, transmuting led to gold, etc. there's just not enough blood. Its rage powered hate machines, they're not going to rationalize the amount of blood they could make if they also took the hundred years to master the art of sorcery, they're going to spend that time shedding as much blood as possible now.
>>46194347
My understanding of it is that Sorcerers aren't really using their own strength, but rather cheating by using words of power and such to control the warp. I believe he doesn't have a problem with SM Librarians or similar pyskers because they're just harness the warp with the strength of their minds and that alone.
...because they wanted a way to make the gods and their followers more unique from eachother, and Warhammer is far from a perfectly thought out masterpiece?
>>46194442
>Honour
Never got this there is a single sentence in the newest Daemons Armybook about it and a fuck load of other material, both older and newer that contradict it...
>>46194372
Never change, Curzefag
>>46194347
>If Khorne cares not from where the blood flows
He doesn't care who's blood it is, he does care why it's flowing. He'd rather you murder your kids with an axe than zap a chapter-master with lightning bolts.
>>46195372
Space marines start as normal people who are then implanted with the gene seed. You just have to be strong enough to survive the conversion process.
Well here's something that really doesn't make sense to me.
Psykers are dangerous because they allow the creatures of the warp a way into the physical world, and allow humans to be influenced by, and communicate with the dark gods.
BUT, Khorne hates psykers and kills them on site. SO, if Khorne followers kill psykers, how do they have any connection to the warp? Wouldn't any Khorne followers almost immediately lose any guidance or instructions they received from their master, and any support he could give them?
What I'm asking is how to Khorneate cults maintain their link with the warp when they kill those who have the strongest connection to it?
>>46197851
Rituals
>>46194347
>Khorne
>Chaos God
>Being reasonable
You've all already fucked up if you're thinking about this in a categorical manner.
>>46197856
So how do Khorne worshipers learn those rituals without demons whispering the secrets into at least a few of their ears?
I don't know. It always seemed silly that a creature made out of the warp hates those who have the strongest connection to the warp.
Also how the HELL do Khornate ships navigate without any psykers aboard!?
>>46197900
You can keep psykers around, they're just not people. They're like the insects you step on, pitiable because of their lack of strength, detestable because of the poison they carry.
>>46197960
It's canon that the world eaters killed all of their psykers after the heresy, even hunting down the ones that escaped or didn't turn to chaos, unless this has been retconned, are they just relying on enslaved psykers from other marine or human stock for everything?
>>46195426
probably not even mediocre loyalist marine ass
>>46195020
>Killing children from a mile away with a sniper rifle?
Yeah because we all know about the khorne-seals that snipe for them babbys.
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