Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.
You are currently reading a thread in /tg/ - Traditional Games
You are currently reading a thread in /tg/ - Traditional Games
Have you ever been in a game that prominently featured LGBT characters?
>>46173294
Yes, why do you care?
>>46173294
Seeing as how my girlfriend is pansexual, just about every game I'm in does.
>>46173321
Curious on how it turned out. My DM is of the type that is terrified of anything not 100% heterosexual at all times that he nixed two characters' romance subplot when he found out they were serious about it.
>>46173294
I was incredibly interested in the main subjects of this image until I saw the giant set of hedge-cutters.
Now I just want to know what the fuck is up with that.On topic, yea, every campaign, since they tend towards magical realm and a good amount of my players are bisexual or pansexual.
>>46173353
>My DM is of the type that is terrified of anything not 100% heterosexual at all times that he nixed two characters' romance subplot when he found out they were serious about it.
Sounds like you've got That DM, anon.
>>46173359
Barbarian Gardening and Landscaping Society.
>>46173342
>tfw I'm the girlfriend in that situation
I'm such a massive faggot when I roleplay but I have too much fun to just stop. Gay guys, hot lesbians, trans characters... I love them all.
>>46173363
He is in that regard, I'll admit. It's more annoying than actively cringeworthy.
>>46173353
On one end, I can see stopping it because things like that usually become a major issue and can derail entire campaigns and destroy groups.
On the other hand, if he'd have been fine with a more "traditional" setup, then he's just being a dipshit.
>>46173384
Well alright then. Looks like they sculpt more than bush though, humina.
>>46173294
I GMed a game for my tumblr using acquaintances. Two of them were aight and had interesting characters, the other two I had to fucking replace because they were so cancerous. The other two were actually ok with it after they pulled RANDUMB FUN STUFF for the 15th time in one session and ended up dropping them.
>>46173394
It looks like you need to stop playing rpgs and get your boipussy wrecked, anon.
>>46173294
Define "Prominent". I mean, I've been in games where prominent characters were LGBT, but it's rarely been a focus except for Count McRapey who we put the sword because, you know, rapey.
It's really not a big deal because we're all adults and nobody gives a fuck unless it's ERP which we don't really do.
>>46173433
>implying I don't just have a regular pussy
>>46173460
Honestly, my campaigns are the same way, except they usually get into ERP. No one really bats an eye at the lesbian/homosex, because they don't care. It's just another facet of life, why call special attention to it?
>>46173294
I played in a Fallout campaign that lasted for about two years where the main plot was our party traveling across America to rescue one of the male party members' boyfriend from Caesar's Legion slavers.
It was a really fun campaign and I actually miss it quite a lot.
>>46173294
The ruke for every group I've ever been in has been "all characters are pansexual unkess itherwise stated."
Beyond that, I have a few trans characters that I lack the campaigns to properly introduce them in.
>>46173294
I once DMed a game entirely for a social group of male to female transexuals, wasn't that bad, they were just really backpatty to eachother and you could feel the magical realm seeping from their characters.
One of my pendragon characters was a mannish lady who went to court to beg support for her family, who had been bereaved of all male relatives, and ended up getting knighted offhand. Times were hard, and most of the county's knights were dead just then.
She differed from a regular PC in that she had a gentlewoman's complement of basic skills from childhood and (just about) made up the necessary combat skills to be a knight from the personal interests portion of chargen, so she didn't have the usual grounding in heraldry and military tactics.
However, this did mean that she was the only PC to have a score in Fashion, a skill whose practical use is to make you appear twice as attractive as you really are, so that any time the party had to make a court appearance she'd end up upstaging all the manly men and automatically catching the eye of every damosel present. It was in this fashion that she made the acquaintance of a recently widowed countess, who ended up giving her a quest, and of course it would have unchivalrous to refuse to help.
Anyway long story short, it turns out that when you go on dangerous quests for eligible ladies of property then everyone assumes you're courting her. The countess certainly seemed to be open to the prospect, though she maintained a discreet ambiguity about whether she'd noticed her swain was a woman. While I hadn't thought of my character as a lesbian up to this point, her overriding ambition was to be taken seriously as a knight and making an advantageous marriage that would elevate her to the higher nobility would certainly help. Anyway the character was due to be retired, since the son of my previous knight was about to come of age, so I went what the hell, let's have a 6th century gay wedding. It wouldn't be very mediaeval to turn down any opportunity like that because of silly quibbles about sexual identity.
To this day, no character in the campaign acknowledges that they ever noticed Sir Ifanwy was a woman.
>>46173460
Best way of doing it.
It exists, some people are, some people aren't. It's just another thing that exists. It's not like it's special, why focus on whether someone is or isn't.
No
Because my group isn't a bunch of sissy faggots or snowflake tumblshits
Hermaphrodites are banned. Anyone who brings it up is outing themselves as a degenerate.
No, of course not.
Not one thing in that acronym has shown up in any of my games fortunately.
>>46173359
It's difficult finding SFW gay images that don't suck.
>>46173534
>tfw I will never get to play Pendragon
just kill me now
>>46173514
But did he live?
How do you make a character LGBT? Do you outright say it? Do you show rather than tell? It seems super awkward.
>>46173644
The campaign fell apart before we ever found out.
When did /tg/ get so fucking gay?
>>46173654
Depends on the setting. Not postmodern? The best you can do in polite company is hint at it though hobbies and mannerisms. Unless you're playing Pathfinder or something, in which case the powers that be have made it officially Not A Big Deal(tm).
>>46173654
I just mention it along with their race and stuff, maybe have it tie into their background somehow. A lot of times it just doesn't come up past that, just like how a character's straightness doesn't come up often, either.
>>46173342
>pansexual
Just a dumb red flag inducing name for bisexual.
>>46173654
Honestly? It shouldn't really come up until they decide to hit on the guard instead of the tavern wench. ... Or the other way around. Show me a player or character who introduces themselves as gay and makes it a major, important part of their character and I'll show you a problem player. Every time.
>>46173680
Was there a time when /tg/ wasn't /totally gay/? I'm not an especially new fag and it must have been before my time.
>>46173680
>Implying it was ever NOT gay as hell, with all the anons insisting there should only be burly, manly men in an adventuring party and no girls allowed
>>46173718
Pansexual as a term predates tumblr and SJW speshul snowflakes. If you don't want to believe it's a legitimate thing, though, I can understand why.
>>46173735
Before the pretend comic was made.
>>46173654
>play barbarian
>stabling horses at estate of the party's benefactor
>DM has a noblewoman try and flirt and seduce him
>barbarian laughs in her face once he realizes what's going on, tells her to waste her time elsewhere before smacking the hostler's ass
>>46173771
>not having your character be a flighty repressed homo that gets uncomfortable around other men and has difficulty communicating to them
>>46173792
I don't think that would fit the barbarian archetype that well.
>>46173654
>be playing GURPS
>give my character a 1-point Quirk for being Gay because it's worth mentioning but not really a huge drawback in the setting
>GM later on tries to have an evil assassin lady seduce my character into letting her pass so she can kill the Space Emperor
>point to my Gay Quirk
>my character being gay saved the Space Emperor's life
>>46173804
Hmm, true. He'd be more of a no-homo bro kind of guy, if you wanted a repressed homo.
>>46173718
>>46173748
Yeah, thing is that we both at first thought she was bisexual when we were first going out in highschool, but a few years later I discovered the term pansexual from a character description for a Monsterhearts game on Mythweavers. Me not knowing what the term was, I looked it up and discovered the Wikipedia article on it, which fit her orientation perfectly. She has the capacity for love of all peoples, not just two kinds along a gender binary.
I've been in a Nanoha-based Magical Girl game...so yeah...
Though the two main ones came about less out of an intention to have them be gay to start and more just realizing that the pair fit together with character and theme way too well.
One was a Belkan Noble (Her family was proud but had no real wealth so it was just a title), the other was a Mid-Childen girl who dreamed of being a Belkan Knight despite the time for them long ago passing.
>>46173294
>>46173353
>>46173342
>>46173321
Daily reminder that hetero sexuality is the only reason you exist. Romance between a male and female is completely normal. Anything homo-sexual is a fetish and should be treated as such and looked down upon in role playing games. You are literally
THAT GUY for making people feel uncomfortable and forcing them to accept your perverted stance on sexuality.
I'd strongly advise you start an all gay campaign with your buddies at the bathhouse instead of pressuring your current DMs (or your players) into suffering your bullshit
>>46173881
lmao look at you
>>46173353
DM a shit.
Even the dudebro DM at my college let my male char fuck men\women fuck women. Admittedly he'd spent lots of highschool writing e-erotica but still, you don't need to be a Tumblrina to allow playing a fucking role in a role playingame..
>>46173943
Fuck think I cut myself on the edge.
\pol\ack steel, mighty indeed.
>>46173294
>prominently
Not really. My group works off of Paizo's rules for Golarion: Everyone is bi unless otherwise stated. But since that's the norm, it's not something that's commented on.
>>46173881
>>>/pol/ is that way.
>>46173718
It would be a useful term in a species with three or more genders, but unfortunately for tumblr, Homo sapiens is not sucha species.
>>46173839
Gender is a binary.
>>46173881
Dude, /tg/ is basically worksafe /d/. This kinda' shit don't really fly here. I'm pretty sure that 90% of the posters here operate under the Jack Harkness rules:
>Is it an adult?
>Is it sapient?
>Does it consent?
>If ALL THREE are "yes", then you can fuck it.If we're being honest with ourselves more than a few of us are fine with dropping at least one of those. Possibly more.
>>46174049This is why shapeshifting is the best power, you could experience all possible facets of sex.
>>46174026
Sex and gender are not the same thing.
>>46173881
that summarizes my opinion perfectly. your dm shouldnt care about shit like that, if you wanna have a fantasy romance with one of your friends then go ahead, but if the whole point of the game for you is just to pretend that you're in a homosexual relationship, just go have gay sex before every session then show up and talk about dragons instead.
>>46174074
He's baiting you into replying, best ought not to respond.
>>46173881
>Daily reminder that hetero sexuality is the only reason you exist.
As a accelerated growth vat-clone, this triggers me
>>46173748
Pansexuality is a thing but it's still utterly redundant because It's already included in the term bisexual.
>>46173294
One PC is only mackin' on other girls so far.
So yeah.
>>46174074
If you really want to be that pedantic, it would also be a useful term in a species with three or more sexes.
But Homo sapiens is STILL not such a species.
>>46173353
Your DM is gay.
>>46174074
But they are deeply related to one another.
>>46174093
Not even that guy but if you want to argue that gender and sex have nothing to do with each and that anyone who argues against this is just a baiting /pol/ack then you can go fuck yourself.
>>46173294
I am in a game right now where the entire reason everything has happened in this campaign has been one of the PCs attempting to get laid with another PC, of the same gender.
>>46173998
>My group works off of Paizo's rules for Golarion:
So you make a big deal out of token characters with no personality beyond their orientation?
>>46173828
Or a violent zealot who attacks homos.
>>46174074
Nope. This always reads as a diversion because this falls apart for those who fundamentally disagree with newspeak. You do realize people outright reject that assertion right? And even if that weren't the case both are binary, especially since all those third genders can just be subsets of male or female. Or if you were to make a diagram you could fit them into the male bubble or the female bubble.
>>46174057
Personally I think *flight* is the best power, if not necessarily the most useful. But shapeshifting is fun, yes.
>>46174155
How did that spiral out of control?
>>46173558
We had a guy who tried that. We told him that our characters weren't going to be fucking each other, so he just had to specify what the character looked like. I then proceeded to make the female love-child of David Bowie and Josef Mengele.
>>46174178
all i read was blah blah blah boys and girls aren't just boys and girls. if more than 2 genders existed then they would have different physical traits, different reproductive organs, or lack thereof.
>>46174167>he taunts them sexually and calls them faggots as he beats them>he secretly wants to lose and get revenge-raped by a stronger, more muscular man
>>46173841
It's weird, but since when did magical girls become all about yuri? I watched Sailor Moon when I was a kid, and the heroines had male love interests.
Like, I don't really understand the male fixtation with yuri. More, being a magical girl is like being Cinderella - to work up the courage to meet your prince. I mean, I prefer being dicked and corrupted by monsters, but I still prefer men.
>>46173433
Reading comprehension
>>46174217
>if more than 2 genders existed then they would have different physical traits, different reproductive organs, or lack thereof.
Well yeah that is the case.
Our understanding of gender differences is necessarily built on sex differences.
Or more simply if humans were asexual then we would also be agender.
>>46174217
You probably should've read more closely then because I more or less agree with you. The latter half is to preemptively shutdown tumblr through hypothetically playing by their rules.
>>46174178
Personally my concepts of gender were forevermore thrown off by a game of Star Trek I played where I decided to roll up an Andorian character becuase I like how they looked and their portrayal in Enterprise.
Then I did some research into them and learned that Andorians have *four* genders. FOUR. They're basically best described as Male 1 (chaan), Male 2 (thaan), Ovipositor-Female (shen), and Pouch-Female (zhen).
Male 1 and Male 2 mate with Ovipositor-Female, who carries between 4 and 8 eggs for about 3 months before depositing said eggs (each about tennis-ball sized) into Pouch-Female via oviposition, whereupon they hatch 3 months after that and suckle inside the pouch for a few weeks before emerging. You'll note that this means that Pouch-Female doesn't actually contribute any genetic information to "her" offspring. I also cannot even BEGIN to guess at the reason why this system would need two males, but indeed there are two distinct male genders, both of them necessary.
Trying to wrap my head around why that would ever evolve coupled with what a society like that would be like, led me to realize that Andorians probably have issues of gender confusion that humans can only barely conceive of.
So these days I really just don't let any gender issues bother me, because I just think to myself, "well, at least I don't live on Andor."
(For the record, aforementioned Star Trek character was a shen (ovipositor-female). I had already considered her "female" and just flipped a coin to decide between shen and zhen. Actually led to a funny bit where the character was disguised as human in the 1970s Soviet Union and started seducing/getting seduced by some human in order to get something she wanted, in true Kirk fashion but with genders flipped. But she had to break things off before things got *too* intimate. "Because he might notice the antennae under the wig?" my GM asked. "Sure, let's go with that", I answered).
>>46173680
Fun fact: 'tg' is a common acronym in fetish communities for 'transgender' content. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a constant stream of people who just googled tg looking for their porn and ended up here in confusion since its the first google result.
>>46173394
You sound like that guy.Guy is gender-neutral you fuckers.
>>46174263
>Trying to wrap my head around why that would ever evolve
That's easy: Star Trek writers don't know shit about genetics.
>>46173527
By chance, or at a convention, or...?
My gf is MtF, but I think she'd feel weird being in an all MtF group.
>>46173839
>unironically using wikipedia as a source material for anything
Wikipedia is literally written by SJW shills. That site has gone so full-left (to the point of renaming trannies and obscuring any references to their previous name or gender) that it's about as useful as tumblr for information.
It's not objective in any way.
>>46174291
They were just a group of people I knew personally. They weren't actually specifically built on being mtf, they were just good friends that happened to support each other over that fact. They came to me after they had read some stuff about D&D and wanted me to do a game for them.
>>46174277
All my friends are huge homonerds anyway, so it isn't a big deal.It's all the other fetishes that I have to reign in that'd creep them out.
>>46174307
Wikipedia's usually fine for chemistry and physics. Things that aren't affected by whatever the ID politics of the moment is. And even then, they still have the sources down the bottom for you to go and look at.
>>46174314
I shudder to ask but what kind of fetishes freak out "homonerds"?
>>46173294
Yes, it went well because nobody made a fuss about it, or masturbated over how progressive they were being.
>>46174336
Heterosexuality.
>>46174343
>Yes, it went well because nobody made a fuss about it, or masturbated over how progressive they were being.
How to know you've found a based group of friends. Fuck extremes.
>>46174336I'm very big into BDSM. Just about everything you can think of that relates to it is my fetish. Naturally, power play and conflict between forces and characters is common in an RPG, and I have to bite my tongue from making all sorts of off-color jokes so I don't creep out the progressive, but sexually typical, friends I have.
>>46174288
Well, the entire thing actually apparently derives from a throw-away line in an episode of TNG where Data casually mentions that Andorian weddings involve four individuals. Trek nerds being Trek nerds, they extrapolated from this the idea that Andorians have four genders, two male and two female. The writers for various books then decided to go with it since the fans seemed to like it.
Personally, my thoughts are this. I figure that an ecosystem that promotes three genetics-contributing genders means that Andor must be an environment that rewards significant genetic mutation. Now, Andor, we've learned, isn't a proper planet, but rather an icy moon orbiting a gas giant (which probably puts out a lot of radiation, like Jupiter does), with an average temperature below freezing. However, in spite of this, we've learned that Andorians can actually survive not just extremes of cold (they find -50 to be "bracing"), but also extremes of heat: one Andorian, Shran, mentions that he was once stranded on a planet who's surface was near the boiling point of water, and he was stuck there for 3 days, but the only ill effect was a loss of 10% of his body weight. Which is pretty severe, but better than what a human could handle in the same situation.
So I figure that the moon Andor must have at one point had wild temperature oscillations and intense radiation storms from the gas giant, which promoted an environment that rewarded genetic diversity. At some point in the relatively recent past, the moon Andor settled into a different orbit around its home planet for some reason that meant that it just froze instead of having temperature changes.
So that explains chaans, thaans, and shens. Still working on the zhens (Pouch-Females), though. Given that Andor probably has almost no plant life, I figure it might have something to do with the environment rewarding a sedentary female supported by a trio of hunting mates.
>>46174325
Okay, I'll give you that. It was helpful for some Greek history paper I had to write because it would link me directly to the Herodotus sources I needed without having to read the shit myself.
So it's about as good as SparkNotes.
>>46173294
Half orc challenges veteran soldier to feat of strength tell him if he wins that the veteran is now his and must join the ships crew. Veteran replies if he wins the half orcs are is his. Half orc looses terribly. Veteran takes him to the room and ass rapes him. I tell the orc to roll for anal dexterity. Halforc crits. Charms the veteran. They become and unstoppable couple that carries the whole campaign.
>>46174239
Because it's a male fetish and no-one wants to see their waifus dicked.
>>46174239
>since when did magical girls become all about yuri?
>>46174239
It protects waifufags from dealing with them having a male love interest that threatens their mental romance scenario. Love between two girls comes of as more innocent and doesn't destroy the "pure virginal maiden" ideal.
I wish I was joking.
>>46174392
You're still getting NTR'd at the end of the day. Arguably more so as you can't even fall back on self insertion or projection like you could with a male character.
>>46174410
>Love between two girls comes of as more innocent
Have these people ever met a real lesbian?
>>46174419
>people still think that a girl sleeping with another girl is NTR/cuckoldry
It really isn't. Not if you know about it and get to participate.
>>46174419
>not self-inserting as a girl
>not projecting onto a girl to get with a girl
>not experiencing the purest form of love
It's like you don't even know how this works.
>>46174419
Not under the general Japanese understanding of Yuri. It's a thing that girls "grow out of" when they meet the right man.
Also, a potential threesome is more appealing with yuri.
>>46174419
>you can't even fall back on self insertion
i remember when it was common knowledge that /tg/ wants to be the little girl
>>46174392
>>46174410
>tfw Seiken no Katanakaji originally had the female character raped by the main villain
>tfw otakus sperged hard and got the rapist turned into a eunuch who was 'physically incapable of such things'
Fukkin hell Japan.
>>46174447
>Not under the general Japanese understanding of Yuri. It's a thing that girls "grow out of" when they meet the right man.
This is whyoneeloli is the best type of yuri.
>>46174426
No, many of that kind of weeb hasnt interacted with women since highschool. waifufags are interested in 2d only and reject 3dpd. The whole waifu/tulpa thing just gets strange.
People are fucking weird.
First campaing I played had homo/bisexuals, but that was mainly because everyone had the table was a horny teen
>>46174433
>Thing A isn't Thing A if it's Thing B
But it isn't Thing B since they're fictional. You get NTR'd either way really.
>to the point of renaming trannies and obscuring any references to their previous name or gender
Hilariously, they do this regardless wishes of the person in question.
Consider (to make this /tg/ relevant again) the filk musician who was once known as Heather Alexander, now as Alexander James. He has stated over and over again that he'd prefer his older work to continue to be attributed to his old name, and spoken out against various attempts to pretend that "Heather" never really existed.
But Big Sister has declared that deadnames are doubleplusungood, so down the memory hole they go.
>>46174475
It isn't thing A either as they are, as you say, fictional.
Can't be a cuck if it never was a relationship to begin with.
>>46173294
Had an idea to have a hotline miami inspired Hunter t Vigil game where the vampires were responsible for the HIV and crack epidemics and were hiding out among the homosexual community of the early 1980's.
Then I realized that would entail the player characters beating the fuck out of a bunch of homos with baseball bats before setting the queen fag on fire in a roller disco. So I thought better of it.
>>46174239
>The heroines had male love interests
Uranus and Neptune were canonically lesbian lovers.
>>46174226>bloodlusts right in the middle of it
>revenge rape becomes brutal power bottoming
>barbarian comes out the other side a massive slut
>>46174524
B-but anon! They're just Cousins! I swear!!!!!!!!!!
>>46174511
Normally yes, but what if you waifu a character?
>>46174246
>a man would never pretend to be a woman
>>46174450
Even though I've been here since ye olde days before Anno Domini 2008 I can safely say not once have I ever wanted to be the little girl. I never got the appeal despite the meme and have just wondered why so many trannies play ttrpg.
>>46174239
>since when did magical girls become all about yuri?
>All this assuming that waifu-ism leads to liking yuri
I like yuri since I much prefer lesbian dynamics to straight ones.Especially yuri rape.
>>46174419
Yeah, but the shows are for girls. They're supposed to self-insert into the HEROINES. It's like a battle harem, you self-insert as the guy.
>>46174513
This could actually be a really cool idea for an exploitation idea. Not necessarily make the vamps gay, but use the epidemic as them hiding their feeding grounds. The most affected (a gay guy, a recovering addict, a black female prostitute, a father who had to watch their child die from it) band together to get these fuckers for proliferating the spread of the disease.
>>46174538
Relationships go both ways. She isn't real. You dont exist within her reality. At best you are just a stalker watching as she goes about her life and fapping at that creepy closet alter covered in her pictures.
>>46174562
The issue wasn't that you had to waifu to like yuri. It was why does the magical girl genre have so much yuri. It is because of waifufags pressuring writers not just fans of yuri dynamics.
>>46174562
I just like it for the cute romance stories, and the few and in between age gap ones the pop up every once in a while.
>>46174567
Except that the largest audience of magical girl shit is males between 16 and 40. They are the audience I'm afraid.
>>46174593
Ahhh, apologies then, I had misinterpreted the discussion.
And I'd say that's a lot of it, and also because of all the outright yuri-baiting in modern meguca shows.None of them have the balls to go outright canon like Sailor Moon did.
>>46174595
Totally acceptable as well! Yuri fans should not fight each other.
>>46174567
>Yeah, but the shows are for girls.
buddy, magical girl shows haven't been for girls since Sailor Moon.
>>46174579
>seperated by reality
Sounds like the ultimate blue balls, no wonder waifufags are nuts. Japan seems to think you can get cucked by 2D though. Kind of. They even cause drama over VA's of their waifu getting in relationships.
>>46173294
Yes, because everyone rolls up a bisexual character and they all end up fucking.
>>46174529
My nigga.
>>46173654
Have your burly male barbarian try to get a discount from the shopkeeper by helicoptering his penis.
>>46174614
They don't go canon because, like previously said, the hope that you can be with your waifu in the end has to stay to keep the fans.
Magical girls started for little girls to watch and enjoy but has been made for weabs ever since the 90's.
>>46174660
Truer words have never been spoken.
>>46174074
In my native language there is no distinction between sex and gender. And it's the way it should be.
>>46174074
They are. Gender is a word invented because ultra-conservatives in the mid-50s and 60s didn't like the word "sex" appearing on forms for children to see.
The progressive definition of gender is some new age cuckoldry of terminology that they're trying to twist into something completely unrelated to what the word originally meant.
>>46173881
I remember seeing some interesting studies for why homosexuality is pervasive generations later. I remember one idea that's gaining clout is that homosexuality as a gene happens to also make one much more virile or fertile and produce stronger offspring.
Either that or we just make the rules of what we want to fuck all in our heads, Greeks kinda throw a wrench into a lot of modern ideas of sexuality sometimes.
>>46174700
They're just synonyms for normal people, unfortunately this is not the place to find normal people.
>>46174625
It doesn't help that most shows write girls as various versions of "ideal" females with no real flaws that they latch onto. It's the source of the 3dpd meme. They don't behave like real people do.
Take the whole tsundere relationship trope. Lots of fans of it but look at it from a third person stand point. It's grade school level crush behaviour.
It would seem weird for a 3rd grader to behave this way towards someone they like but high school or college age people? You'd think they were suffering from arrested development. It's a dynamic that always has irked me with most anime because grown ass people don't act like this. But a juvenile mentality in a woman is ideal to the Japanese male.
In b4
>not liking tsundere girls
>>46174336Aggressive hand-holding.
>>46173294
Yeah, all the time.
Trans stuff doesn't come up much, it's still a bit on the weird side or too personal for the people involved, but we have tons of gay/bisexual/asexual characters, though hetero is the norm.
>>46174739
Wouldn't* seem weird for a 3rd grader
>>46174373
Weak
I'm running a shadow run game and everyone involved is somewhere in the LGBT space, so finding a purely hetero character is rarer than finding a unicorn
>>46173294
>Have you ever been in a game that prominently featured LGBT characters?
I did. Then I shut down the game and quit that friend circle.
>>46173723
This.
>>46173616
There was one advertised on Gamefinder last week.
I commonly use LGBT themes when I depict elves. Such sexual creatures that they are, the different manners of dress and decorum make them feel different without being bizarre or aloof.
>>46173342
>pansexual
>>46174049
Tumblr pls
>>46174952
Oh wow you're so original like oh em gee
>>46174041
Finally. Someone who fucking realizes. There are two states of Gender, and four of Matter. Evaporation is not a state of matter.
>>46174377
>So that explains chaans, thaans, and shens. Still working on the zhens (Pouch-Females), though. Given that Andor probably has almost no plant life, I figure it might have something to do with the environment rewarding a sedentary female supported by a trio of hunting mates.
Yeah, also seahorse principle: eggs take plenty of biomass to form, so handing them over to another lets the egg-maker to conserve.Going full hentai you could say that males give excessive amounts of sperm and non-fertilising leftovers serve as additional nutrients.
>>46173294
Ran a game, superheroic, where a player played a homosexual man.
Man became friends with AI, the team's helper/watcher. Said AI is known for teleporting the heroes to various places at need via molecular/energy breakdown and re-positioning. Blue-White Pain, it was called, as that is what every person having it done to him/her describe it as.
Eventually it comes up to the AI, as something that made the character different then others. AI simply offers to change biochemistry during next teleport to fix the coding error.
Look on face... I love taking moron player's social hangups and throwing them back in their face.
>>46174994
I don't recall ever claiming to be original. It's just a unique quirk for them that makes them all the more different. LGBT isn't some outlier of society, its a normal aspect of ever day life. Life is too long to not try them all
>>46174291
>>My gf is MtF
>>46174562I do like how those lesbians saw a torture device and thought "Y'know. I want that in my cooch"
>>46173839
It's biSEXUAL, not biGENDERyeah yeah I know tumblr yeah yeah
Sex is extremely binary in humans, with very few outside cases (hermaphrodites).
Pansexual is, in reality, redundant. In a fantasy world, maybe it's important to distinct.
>>46174730
>homosexuality as a gene
I'm not going to bother looking one up so just imagine I've pasted a devastating facepalm gif here
>>46175074It's actually a genderswap of a yaoi pairing. I had a much better image but I'm fairly sure actively putting it in the image box would be baaaad.
Here it is anyways: http://i.imgur.com/gzkhQDG.jpg
It's both NSFW and there's blood (but not to a guro extent), so be warned.
>>46174041
Dumbass even physiological sex isn't perfectly divided into two sexes - you really think whether or not your wear skirts is some immutable natural law?
>>46173384
Surely you mean
>Landscaping & Gardening Barbarian Team.
or evenLandscaping & Gardening Barbarian Team QUESTGIVERS
>>46175135Pretty good.There's no pear of anguish in the original though.
>>46175335
The pear of anguish comes from this image of their non-genderswapped selves.
The purple one has being a creepy rapist as his general schtick, and as such it tends to carry over into his genderswap.
>>46173604
And by "don't suck" you mean "where one of the guys looks basically like a girl"?
>>46174524
And Tuxedo Mask fucked nearly every villainess.
>>46175150
Yeah, there's Male, Female, and 'whoops, I goofed'.
>>46174453
I honestly thought it was pretty hot, since her rapist was basically Griffith. Being raped by a guy like that isn't too bad.
>>46175407
>Being raped by a guy like that isn't too bad.
Did you see the chapters after that where she basically turned into a hikki?
>>46175059
Was he playing Captain McQueer? Or was he just Bob Justice, who had a boyfriend in his civvy identity?
If it was the first, good on you. If the second, you're an asshat.
>>46175073
at least he isnt single unlike you
>>46175073
Skirt=girl.
>>46173616
I am also interested in suicide for that reason, Anon-sama
>>46174074
so what's the difference?
>>46174041
Sex is a binary. Gender is an acquired madness that takes whatever the fuck form the specific sufferer feels like.
>>46173294
Yes. It was the 70s American "tinfoil conspiracies are real" campaign set in Vegas, and naturally everyone was more drugs than man after the first breakfast ended, and literally everyone fucked everyone everywhere and at all times, so being LGBT in this whole endeavour of debauchery and hedonism didn't even rate.
>>46175005
Evaporation is a process, just like sublimation, deposition etc. It's improper to compare a stable state to a transient process.
>>46176070Just as it's improper to compare transitioning between genders to actual genders such as male and female. Seems like you got my point anon.
>>46173881
Then why have I played a system that had homosexuality as a flaw in the character creation?
>>46175005
>what is plasma
>>46176091
The problem is trans-faggots position themselves as a state, not a process.
Like, they say that female is "gas", while male is "solid", and they are "liquid", without actually legally and physically defining clearly what said "liquid" ensues, and use said grey area of definition to their advantage.
>>46176099
The fourth state.
Reading comprehension, mate.
>>46176116
Majorly they want to be gas, but getting through the liquid phase is a long process.
But what advantages does that get them, at all?
>>46173294
Yes, I went to that "4chan" place, there's tons of faggoty ultra-sumbissive shemales there (they are called "traps" in 4chan's native lingo).
I wouldn't recommend going there.
>>46176160
Well, legal advantages, for one.
They are free to twist the definition of gender in their advantage however they wish.
>>46176171
How so?
All they want is to be considered gas, with no extra baggage.
>>46176116
To be fair, that analogy doesn't work when you consider that the vast majority of people never transition in terms of gender. So using trans- as a state gives the additional information that this person approaches their gender in a way that's very different from how most people do it.
Making this distinction can be useful in some cases.
What the fuck is wrong with you faggots.
Why do you spam your shit propaganda here.
This is one of the many reasons why people hate faggots, with the rest including the fact that you are a societal disease.
>>46176194
>legally men, with all advantages that come with it
>societally women, with all advantages that come with it
Gee wiz, anon, I dunno, do you?
After all you wouldn't hit a man-turned-woman, right?In all seriousness, they want the best of two worlds, to be taken seriously like men, but to enjoy the same double standards as women. Hypocrisy, basically.
>>46175125
>there is no such thing as nature-vs-nurture
>i have never heard of antagonistic pleiotropy
>i have never heard of co-dominance of genes
>>46174557
They are just transferring mana, nothing lewd about it
>>46173342
>gf describes herself as pansexual
that's how girls say that they're fucking your best mate.
>>46176227
>>legally men, with all advantages that come with it
Nope?
They change their documents to female too.
They dress and behave as much as woman-like as possible.
Whatever male privilege they had, they bury it deep.
And attempting to reclaim it by demonstrating still-there dick is not going to win any favours.
Also, what's your case for FTMs?
>>46173881
Lmao I don't care bro. Even if 10% of the world's population is gay that wouldn't even dent the spread of our race.
As the Marquis de Sade once said, "Your body is the church where Nature asks to be reverenced.", and I believe that.
+Science has ways of artificially reproducing humans now anyways, so even if we WERE all magically gay, it still wouldn't matter.
LGBT>Heterosexuals
Posted this yesterday in a different thread, but kind of fits.
>System is DSA (german, Drakensang is based on that)
>party consists of:
>Alchemist (m), rogue (f), paladin (m) and two mages:
>They visited the twin academies of the captial city
>one focusing in attack magic and combat (m)
>one in defensive magic, healing and support (f)
>Orks are preparing for a siege
>We previously befriended a resistance leader, an amazon
>followship of around a hundred men and women - enough to hold them off
>can't manage to persuade her to stay, so we make a plan:
>The alchemist brews up a love potion
>the mage is supposed to "poison" her and have her fall in love with him
>We joke about him swapping the goblets, GM lets him roll on Int
>"I failed. Critically."
>"Wait, what?"
>A few moments of silence around the table, then the GM starts
>he suddenly thinks she's the most beautiful woman in the world yada yada
>He asks if his character figures out the thing about the goblets after that
>GM has him roll Int again, he fails again
>She rejects him pretty violently
>The next day, the group decides to try again.
>The amazon doesn't want to see the mage
>the rest of us invite her to talk about the siege during dinner
>the potion makes her fall for the first one she looks at
>The alchemist sits directly in front of her, is supposed to do the talking
>Of course, she randomly looks at the female mage at the wrong moment.
>She min maxed into Int, skilled a lot of knowledge talents.
>Played as small, clumsy, book-loving girl - turns out she is a better
>match for the amazon than the combat mage would have been.
>They sleep in the same bed from then on
>she flusterdly refuses to tell the party what exactly was going on behind closed doors
cont
>>46176116
Yes. That is the problem, and it bothers me. That was the point of my post(s), calling them on their bullshit. Hell, they even use a word that almost directly comes from transition, y'know, the word that describes the event and process of going from A to B
>>46176271
>The plan succeeds, but the combat mage is heartbroken and confronts def mage.
>They argue for a bit, then he attacks her
>She uses magic to defend herself, since he is physically stronger
>He also starts casting, goes all out
>pours all of his mana into his signature spell
>a huge, slow moving fireball, long cast time, big AOE, high damage
>She saw it a number of times and immediately disables the spells telekinetic aspect.
>Blows up in his face
>Literally
>the huge fucking thing doesn't move away from him and explodes at point blank
>Damage rolls are pretty high, but it doesn't kill him instantly.
>Instead, he catches fire, she tries conjouring up some water
>elemantal magic is not her forte, she fails
>twice
>he burns to death before her eyes
So yea, so much for my experiences with lesbians.
>>46176251
Honestly, I don't have a strong opinion on either subject, and I'm just playing devil's advocate here, so excuse me for not having a compelling argument.
I care about neither FTMs, nor MTFs or whatever "genderfluid" things people think up as long as they aren't being vocal about it.
Everyone has their own brand of insanity, that's what makes us individuals, the trick is not to wave it around like a dick.
Instead of focusing on superficial things like acceptance of your own personal brand of insanity that has little to no physical basis (unless you physically change your gender with an operation, of course), you should focus on more real issues.
>>46176264
Why is the L and G in LGBT separate anyway?Do they really like guacamole that much?
>>46176313
>>46176271
>>46176290
it's just like one of my japanese animes!
One of my players played a non-binary character. She went for a 5E Dragonborn, and decided that, since reptiles don't have the same sexual dimorphism that mammals do, she didn't really identify with mammalian concepts of either sex.
It went pretty well. Nobody, including her, made a big deal about it - it was just something interesting about her character. It also had no impact on the eventual relationship between said Dragonborn and the group's bard, because of course it didn't.
>>46176227
You're throwing a lot of assumption at people.
Where in Western countries have men actual legal privige over women instead of societal one? The only things I could imagine would be medical stuff, where transitioning people are their own case.
And it's not like trans people don't know that people will react to them outing/transitioning. They're not all as braindead as that British MtF who got adopted by a pair to pretend to be six years old and do weird sex stuff.
And by the way, you should totally hit a woman in the same circumstances you'd also hit a man. Even if other people are gonna be idiots about it..
>>46176308
>I'm just playing devil's advocate here, so excuse me for not having a compelling argument.
>Instead of focusing on superficial things... you should focus on more real issues.
wew fucking lad
This thread needs to die along with everyone in it.
>>46176330
I'm sorry, but you just can't remove the lettuce from a BLT. It's unnatural.
>>46173294
I played a straight charcter who wwas from a race that appeared all female to other races. there was no sexual dimorphism, as the low birthrate required males and females to be equally capable of childcare in the hostile environment. She was happily married to a male of her race, and angrily corrected anyone who referred to him as a female or as a wife.
She had a mild freak out when she was informed that males and females of the same race were not in fact two distinct and seperate species.
>mods are asleep, post /pol/ threads on /tg/
>>46176370
Ok. You first.
>>46176308
See, if everybody was on "so, you want to be called a girl and considered a girl everywhere? okwhatever" position, that'd be pretty sweet.
But as the current state of the matters is, if they start changing from one to another, a lot of people around them are going to flip their shit, so they have to bottle up and keep living in form that creates great discomfort.
So they compensate by overindulging in "be yourself!" on the internet. Which creates it's own backlash and then it's fucking drama spill. Which is probably the only part of the whole thing that you came into contact with, so distaste is understandable.
>>46173294
I've played SoS, whose flagship character is a brown dyke with a rapier.
The creators are also pretty unabashedly right wing. The lead dev is so Christian he shits the pope. I think the whole thing has been pretty normalized by now.
>>46174730
Feckin' Greeks, thay invented gayness!
>>46176412
Jimmy Rome is to Christianity what William Dyer was to Cthulhu. He's not a typical case.
>>46176376
You are doing good bro don't stop
>>46176412
Outside of the whole "Has sex with the same gender" part, yeah.
It's a two level system, where you have to keep that part separate. It's this doublethink system where if someone says they are gay, you are not allowed to think "This person practices a bizarre sexual fetish," you are supposed to think "that's a ultimately meaningless label like nationality."
You don't tell children what gay people are, you have to twist it about to mean something other than "this person has sex with people of the same gender." You have to pretend that something like love is involved in the definition, or that it's just this condition like a disease that's impolite to get into the details of.
The problem with all this is that this solves only half of the equation. People tolerate homosexuals until they try to take the actually qualifying part of their identity and put it in the spotlight. When they actually show what makes them different, the illusion of "they're just like us" shatters alongside the rest of the doublethink, and people are left wondering how things could have gotten so bad so quickly.
>>46174049
I would say that if majority is "yes" you can fuck it
>>46176572
>The problem with all this is that this solves only half of the equation. People tolerate homosexuals until they try to take the actually qualifying part of their identity and put it in the spotlight. When they actually show what makes them different, the illusion of "they're just like us" shatters alongside the rest of the doublethink, and people are left wondering how things could have gotten so bad so quickly.
I am actually curious what you mean by this. Are you talking about situations where gay people make advances on straight people, when people act flamboyantly camp-gay, or something else?
>>46174049
>>46176925
If you don't care for #3, why do you care for 1 and 2?
>>46176978
>when people act flamboyantly camp-gay
Does any man on the planet who isn't flamboyant gay actually like flamboyant gays? Even the gay people I know get annoyed with them pretty damn quick.
>>46177053
Fag-hags, or people who enjoy their friendship for reasons other than the way they act.
>>46174049
There is no age of consent in the Empire of Man is there?
>>46173294
That guy with the hedge clippers looks pretty familiar.
>>46176925
This means that you are fucking...
>Children who consent
>Retarded adults who consent
>Adults who don't consent
>>46177157
>>Retarded adults who consent
p.1 is for animals, anon, not human IQs qualifiers.
>>46177173
Eh, shit, *p.2
>>46177173
I meant vegetative (not a native speaker).
In that case; fucking animals.
>>46176978
It's kind of gross how gay people have systematically attempted to dismantle everything that they consider as detrimental to their ability to indulge in their fetish as openly as possible, alongside their continued practice of forcing their fetish everywhere they go.
Like spamming and bumping these threads, and thinking it's okay because it furthers your agenda.
>>46174291
I think you've meant my bf
>>46177211
I had a random thought the other day: do you get 'degenerate' animals? As in, do animals ever look at something that's not their species and think 'that's hot, I want to have sex with that'?
I think I might be a bit fucked in the head.
>>46173294
My group is consists mostly of bisexuals along with one of the biggest flaming hetros I've ever seen.
Anyone playing a straight character is actually somewhat rare indeed.
>>46174730
>that homosexuality as a gene happens to also make one much more virile or fertile and produce stronger offspring.
that seems like a massive waste considering homosexual people wouldn't naturally give birth.
Evolution is a strange thing (assuming this hypothesis is true)
>>46177290
Just because you're gay doesn't mean you can't have sex with the opposite sex.
No. I'm not a poofta and neither are my friends.
>>46173342
You are more than likely a literalLITERALcuckold.
>>46177315
Like, cover the chest with a wool blanket and throw on a fake moustache?
>>46174291
>my gf is MtF
>gf
>>46177315
>naturally
As in, you wouldn't seek out a member of the opposite sex, you wouldn't be attracted to the idea of having sex with them (possibly even repulsed by the idea), and you wouldn't want to raise the kid together.
Homosexuality would not naturally lead to childbirth.
Still, let's say there is a gay gene: What about a transsexual, or bisexual gene?
>>46173654
I write it down on my character sheet and mention it off hand at the begining.
If it should or would come up in game, then I'll address it properly but otherwise I've once played a Lesbian who's sexuality never came up or was an issue in game.
>>46174426
>real lesbian
>>46175063
>LGBT isn't some outlier of society, its a normal aspect of ever day life
>>>/trash/
This thread shouldn't be here. None of these thinly veiled /pol/ threads should be here.
The idea of offering three seconds of lipservice just so you can start a discussion about your political stance is appalling and offensive, regardless of what your political stance might be. This thread is exactly why the /pol/ board exists, and this particular thread is also why the /lgbt/ board exists.
Why do you persist in making these threads here? It's about 5% game-lipservice, and than 95% "WE'RE HERE AND WE"RE QUEER" and "DIE FAGGOTS DIE" and "HOW DO I PLAY GAY" and "GAY IS JUST STRAIGHT" and "GREEKS WERE GAY" and "TRANSEXUALS ARE GAY" and all that other stuff that really should just be shoveled into /pol/ or should be stopped from leaking out of /lgbt/.
>>46177403
yeah because what this board really needs more of is
>le dorfs so cool
>le lets autistically apply real world economics to a skeleton workforce
>le which mary sue fantasy race do you like best?
>>46174513
>>46174577
thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis
>>46177403
Lots of the discussion going on is regarding stuff that happened in games.
One of my campaigns had Gilmore, who ran a magic item shop and is best described as pudgy, flamboyant Jeremy Irons. The bard there was a bisexual slut, but the character mostly preferred women. (Though had a soft spot for Gil.)
>>46173294
Considering I'm a pansexual hermaphrodite...it featured me, a few eyebrows were raised then it was back to business as usual. It only ever comes up because people ask what gender my character is anyway.strongly featured explicit LGBT content.
But other than that never
>>46177474
>Lots of the discussion going on is regarding stuff that happened in games.
Your lipservice is transparent, and I'm calling you out on it.
>>46177246
>that's hot, I want to have sex with that
Yes. See: Hybrids.
>>46177480
>pansexual
>hermaphrodite...
Don't you think your genetic disorder makes you enough of a special snowflake already?
>>46177480
Elves, man.
>>46177480
>>46177510
>>46177518
See this? This?
This belongs on /lgbt/.
>>46175420
Frankly, I would have continued to lust after his dick. That's the problem with anime, really. Can't have sexual competition with the milquetoast main character or the overpowered self-insert, oh no!
Look, does anyone remember Bahamut Lagoon? There, the love interest ends up with the rival character, that fucking bitch. Now, I didn't know what NTR was then, and I didn't like it. But in hindsight, I think it made the game a lot more interesting.
I just wish more anime would have actual competition between the guys.
We once showed up to a new campaign, where each of us had rolled up bards. Most fabulous, gay party of all time.
>>46177532
I see I failed to use the whole quote:
>do animals ever look at something that's not their species and think 'that's hot, I want to have sex with that'?
Yes. See: Hybrids.
>>46177532
>muh degenerates
>>46177518
Yes, so I don't bring it up even with trans people, because if there's a minority more minority than you, fuck em.
>>46173680
Tg was always this gay, it's been the same since 07
>>46176313
I always wondered about this.
Why not just have HBT? Homosexual, Bisexual, Transexual.
It's certainly quicker than LGBTQLOLOMGWTF and gets the point across.
>>46177799
Why not just H for Homo or D for Degenerate?
>>46173534
>It wouldn't be very mediaeval to turn down any opportunity like that because of silly quibbles about sexual identity.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>46177442
>why are we having /tg/ threads on /tg/
