Neat.
I like 'em.
>only 2 of the lands have flavor text
But why wizards? That's gonna bug the shit out of me
>>46154956
Bet you loved the Gates from rtr then.
>>I feel ya.
I don't know.
At least the art is nice.
>>46154936
>3-4 colour madness won't stop
And I hoped for battle lands.
Not fetchable, but work with shocks/duals, i can dig it.
>>46154964
I did actually. Deciphering the hidden message in the flavor text was a great way to spend an afternoon with my friends. We were determined to figure it out without resorting to the internet
Why can't they just give their shitty duals the basic land types?
So worse checklands?
>>46155094
it's pretty much on par with checkland, especially as you can drop it T1.
>>46155094
These are a better play on turn 1 but yeah, pretty much.
>>46155174
Cute. Seems playable in limited, maybe even standard. Nice, cheap token-hoser for blue.
>>46155091
Because then you could reveal them off each other. And they can't just gI've you encemtive to play 4 with fetches in modern
>>46155174
Oh snap, marit lage! Return to ice age confirmed! Snow duals confirmed!
GET HYPE!!
>>46155389
pretty hype already
>>46154936
The really vague names of this land cycle make me think they may reuse them again in the future. A lot of the lands recently have had really vague names though.
>>46154991
we lose fetch lands and the khans wedge lands from standard when these come in, so 4-colour may be less likely.
>haunted fog called "the ghost fog"
Wotc writing team, everybody
>>46155633
Germans are not known for imaginative names.
>>46155633
>set based on gothic horror and germanic fables
>using crappy german name that sounds cool to edgelords
This is within parameters
>>46155633
>>46155946
You really are grasping at shit to be angry about, uh?
>>46155939
Names have to tell you what it is, they don't need to be creative, Schwachkopf.
>>46155939
sloth - Faultier - "lazy animal"
skunk - Stinktier - "stink animal"
platypus - Schnabeltier - "beak animal"
There's also a tripple digit number of things and places called "Kirchberg" - "church hill".
>>46156002
I'm just saying, man, Germany has a reputation for going past matter-of-fact and reaching the point where more inventive names would actually be more functional.
>yet another incomplete land cycle to piss off EDH players
Alara shards just keep getting better
>>46155091
They want to encourage people to play actual basic lands in their decks, rather than create convoluted decks where every land is shiny and rare and designed for specific synergies. In short, they don't want to make Standard into another Modern.
I like it.
>>46155174
> The tides have begun to ignore the moon
My dick's so hard right now.
>>46155985
I'm not angry. Just noting that it's pretty expected. Especially in this set, they can get a lot of names out of normal german words and don't have to make shit up. if anything it's better that way because we don't get a bunch of dopey made up words like in Khans block. I don't really play this game for the flavor, I play it because it's fun.
I think the effect is something about discarding a card to get vampire tokens, but only once a turn. It's alright.
>>46156275
Call the Bloodline
1B
Enchantment
1, Discard a card: Put a 1/1 black Vampire knight token with lifelink onto the battlefield. Activate this ability only once per turn.
In response to Sorin's appeal, Olivia Voldaren resorted to the full power of her lineage, summoning all members to Fortress Lurenbraum.
>>46156146
Considering the current duals have the basic land types, they're doing a piss-poor job of that.
>>46156292
This will go great in my BR vampire aggro madness deck!
>>46156275
>>46156292
I like it
Madness and Delirium enabler
>>46156146
This pretty much. Nobody wants to play standard when you have to drop a whole paycheck on playsets of lands.
>>46156292
>Once per turn
But not once per your turn. Interdasting.
>>46156275
>>46154936
WE IN THERE! BR Vampires Top Tier!
>>46155091
Because Tarkir + BFZ made 4-color decks not only viable but strong and they don't want to do that again.
>>46156367
>not splashing White for Drana's Emissary and/or Cliffhaven Vampire
>not running Impact Tremors
>>46156469
splashing a third colour to force a minor lifegain subtheme really isn't needed, and frankly those cards are a little slow when you can easily be attacking with a transformed heir of falkenrath and incorrigible youths on turn 3.
>>46156305
Past rotation, available cycles will be:
>Enemy painlands from Origins
>Ally Battle lands from BfZ
>Enemy manlands from BfZ and OotGW
>Dual taplands, ally cycle in OotGW and enemy cycle in SoI.
>These reveal lands posted above.
Out of all of these, the only cycle that has a pairing of land types is the battle lands cycle. Otherwise, the others are just generic 'lands.' And seeing how these new lands don't contribute to battle lands entering the battlefield untapped, I'm not sure about that synergy.
So after rotation, be prepared for diversity of color to die the fuck down.
>>46156515
You seriously contemplating competitive tactics for a meme deck?
>>46156560
Exactly this. The mana fixing will be notably less consistent. 4 colour will be a thing from the past, and 3 colour will take some serious commitment. As standard (and really, all formats) should be.
>>46156637
Also considering khans is gone, so the 3 color power cards no longer exist in standard. There's less reason to go 3 colors without them.
>>46156560
The battle lands are going to go up thanks to these new lands. Two and three color decks will have consistent mana bases, but four color midrange was always going to die out.
Still, there's no incentive to run with more than ten to twelve basics in a three color deck, and that's pushing it since you only need two for your battle lands and one of the primary color for your new lands during any game.
>mfw invested in R/B Battlelands already
Got a pretty good feeling I'll get my 1.15€ per land back thanks to vampires.
>>46156667
Speaking of which, any bets for the name?
>show lands
>hand lands
all I've got without getting verbose and more than syllable
>>46156706
Showlands seems most likely
>>46155985
person complaining here
i think it would be more evocative if they hadn't also literally translated "Nebelgast" in the flavor text
"show, don't tell" is the first imperative
>>46156720
Handlands is the best name
>>46156706
Wife's son lands
>>46156706
Shadowlands
>>46156659
I'm honestly starting to get sick of multicolour sets. They always seem to result in super pushed mythics, ludicrously expensive mana bases, and less individuality in decks. The better fixing basically makes them 'jam all the good cards in one deck' formats. Playing two colours is almost always wrong, because the only real cost to adding another colour is money.
>>46156731
100% more edge
So what's the best timetable to play these lands according to, if we go with the battle land synergy?
>>46156205
>Moon-niichan, I cant help it, my waves are moving on their own!
>>46156751
Do you mean sequencing in a game? Depends on your hand and how many colors you're running. Holding a battle land in your hand will guarantee your shadowlands coming in untapped, but if you can't find two basics, your battle lands come in tapped.
The thing about these lands is they require you holding up land in your hand, and sometimes you need to hit your curve.
There's going to be a lot of trial and error figuring out the best sequencing for these lands.
>>46155174
Is it possible that nahiri is using those stones to up her power so she can bring marit over to innistrad to destroy it, but emakrul catches a whiff of all the mana shes channeling and he comes over too.
And then we see this epic battle between two giant tentacled monsters?
Handlands sounds alright.
>>46156848
Twelve basics, four battle lands and four show lands of appropriate colors for your deck should lead to an okay distribution. Battle lands can always be slapped down first turn if you don't have a first turn play.
>>46156889
>inb4 Emrakul assimilates Marit Lage in a world-spanning tentacle fuckfest
>>46156565
The B/R vampire deck looks pretty aggressive, and there are still more cards in the set to be revealed
>>46156751
The only synergy is that you can reveal a battleland with a showland to make your first turn reliable.. After that, synergy falls off pretty quick. The only other helpful interaction I can see is that it encourages shard tri-color decks, since both duals are ally cycles.
They don't change much; battlelands were already hard to balance. I never ran more than a couple in any deck since they want as many basics as possible. Outside of standard, these won't make a splash anywhere. Maybe commander, but then what doesn't make a splash in commander?
>>46156897
>no turn 1 play
>turn 2 play open
>only have a battle land and showland in hand
>impossible to play it before turn 3 without topdecking a basic or another showland
I'll stick with painlands.
>>46156912
>>46156976
Interdasting.
>>46156976
Landfall draw engine ?
>>46156996
>>46156976
[sleuthing intensifies]
>>46156976
>>46156975
Drop battleland and hope you draw a basic.
>I'll stick with painlands.
it's irrelevant as painlands only exists in a different color combination with battle+show.
>>46156976
landfall - investigate was too keywordy?
>>46156996
this looks so nice. I love casual engines
>>46157044
>landfall - investigate was too keywordy?
Landfall is not evergreen
>>46156912
>tfw Emrakul will show up on Innistrad
>tfw Emrakul escapes Innistrad
>tfw the next 10 blocks will be the avengers chasing Emrakul across the multiverse with little plot development
>tfw at the end of the chase Nicol bolas shows up and goes "lol it was my master plan the whole time
>tfw jace goes full Mary Sue and reveals he's the reincarnation of Urza
Magic is dead.
>>46157055
>tfw jace goes full Mary Sue and reveals he's the reincarnation of Urza
This will never happen because nobody gives a flying fuck who your husbando is
>>46157055
>>jace reveals he's the reincarnation of Urza
>Turning Jace into an interesting character
You know WotC can't do that
>>46157011
>hey guys, everyone loves seers sundail, let's make it a creature!
>are you sure we can't make it better? I'm pretty sure players thought the sundail was pretty weak.
>well okay, but only a little.
>>46156469
>>46156515
>Not running an equipment subtheme with Avacynian Missionaries, Neglected Heirloom, Captain's Claws, Stormrider Rig and Stone Haven Outfitter
Mardu Equipment will definitely be a thing in Standard. Specially seeing how Stoneforge Masterwork works great with Vampires + Allies
>>46157055
Ashiok might turn up again in one block, or tezzeret
>>46157065
i was kind of hoping they'd look like Darksteel Relic, but i suppose enormous heron-shaped statues work too
>>46157075
>reincarnation of urza
>interesting
I don't think you get how this works.
>>46156996
>>46156976
All these investigate cards are pretty boring
>>46157065
That's a weird flavor text.
>>46157092
>>reincarnation of urza
>>interesting
>I don't think you get how this works.
I was hoping Jace's mind would be replaced with Urza's
>>46156996
I'm digging the idea of some kind of simic or temur colored deck with artifact sac outlets that triggers these clue sac triggers on the cheap.
>>46157083
That seems like its own deck. Its own sad, deluded deck.
>>46157113
let me rephrase
>Urza
>Interesting
pick one
>>46157113
>I was hoping Jace's mind would be replaced with Urza's
I don't want Ravnica turning into a giant anti-Phyrexian factory, so no.
>>46156848
Battle lands suck in opening hand.
New lands are rough when in topdeck mode.
Best sequencing I guess is Shadow's new land turn 1 w/ reveal, basic, basic, battleland.
Both want you to play more basics then anything,
I'm thinking shards, with a primary color in the middle that you use basics for, and then battlelands/ newlands for "splashes" into the two other shard colors, with maybe 1-2 enemy manlands.
>>46157107
inverted reference to the card, Tamiyo's Journal
sac 3 clues, get an answer
the inverted order is supposed to change the meaning to mimic the saying "one step forward, two steps back" but it's kind of blatant
>>46157124
>Urza
>Not more interesting than Jace
Can't you imagine all the "fuck, I'm not an oldwalker anymore" shenanigans ?
>>46157136
No because nobody except you cares about some dead old prick from years ago, grandad
>>46157107
You're right.
>"For every answer these clues give me, I must continue to investigate on three new leads, three new questions to trigger my Journal following the investigation about the mystery of these Shadows over Innidstrad™, especially the mystery about Avacyn, Sorin's creation, and her symbol, which werewolves hate"
>>46156996
>all these enchantments and creatures that are just "when you X do investigate"
This mechanic could have been done a lot better
>>46156976
>>46156996
So, there's some kind of G/U or even G/U/W investigate deck going on?
I was really hoping it would have a small amount in red, just for Pia and Kiran and Ghirapur Æther Grid
>>46157154
Still better than "When X happen, put a +1/+1 counter"
>>46157136
so bolas but with a weird boner for phyrexians?
>>46157158
oh look, it's actually a red Phyrexian Arena
>>46157158
Bob edition three
>>46157154
I feel like the real interesting interactions from investigate come when you get rid of the tokens not when you make them, that's always going to be rather similar.
>>46157065
Could the cryptoliths be the expansion symbol for Eldritch Moon?
>>46157158
So the opponent can make sure you never draw land ever again?
>>46157158
People will complain that this sucks but I can't really see a huge problem with it.
>>46157158
So...Anti-Dark Confidant, but you burn them?
Shit, I like this.
>>46157158
nice, i like it. repetition is really the key to making punisher effects work.
>>46157158
Reverse red Bob for 3.
Which means it must be called Bob in reverse.
>>46157158
OPPONENT IS CHOOSINGGGGG
IT'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
WORSE THAN HITLERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
MAGIC IS DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
There. I summarized what you guys are going to whine about.
>>46157173
You still have your draw step.
>>46157173
If they don't take the damage then you draw 2 cards in the turn
So even if they discard the land off the top for free you still have a normal draw step to get a land
>>46157173
RTFC
>>46157173
You still get your normal draw.
>>46157159
Bant is already a deck, and it's going to be even more tempo oriented than before.
>>46157177
Gives an opponent a choice. It won't do much good: like >>46157173 said, exept you have 50% chances of not drawing a land.
>>46157158
Ehh.. I like it. It's either free damage or free cards... unless you need terrains.
>>46157158
this thing along with that fire wolf makes me think red might have some kind of cmc matters thing going on in this set.
>>46157158
Good but boring
>>46157173
>rdw
>can cast cmc3 creature
>opponent made sure i never draw land again
why thank you, i didn't realize you like to lose so much.
>>46157158
This goes right into my split card EDH.
>>46157208
>>46157209
>>46157173
Jesus, stop being stupid.
>>46157173
no, you still get your regular draw on your draw step after that trigger, which could be land. they can just deny your extra draw from ever being lands.
>>46157213
>boring
No, no, it's not.
>>46157148
>"For every answer these clues give me, I must continue to investigate on three new leads, three new questions to trigger my Journal following the investigation about the mystery of these Shadows over Innidstrad™, especially the mystery about Avacyn, Sorin's creation, and her symbol, which werewolves hate because Avacyn's church, which is currently in crisis over the behavior change of Angels, hunted werewolves in the past, causing a lasting hatred of the church and its symbol, a collar, which is called 'Avacyn's collar', which was based on the collar worn by Avacyn, the Angel that the church of Avacyn worships, who has suddenly gone crazy."
>>46157217
oh shit, nice call. I need these for my living ultimatum deck, academy elite are kinda balls.
>>46157208
I bet you also think that Browbeat is bad.
>>46157238
>red card with random keyword that either gives card advantage or does damage
I'm literally falling asleep
>>46157158
Modern rdw stapler guys. Get yours before it goes eidolon.
>>46157222
It's cool casual card, i fully agree. But everytime you go into topdecking with this half of your cool stuff goes down. Unless you're going with 6cmc wraths or beaters.
>>46157030
>it's irrelevant as painlands only exists in a different color combination with battle+show.
Painlands are irrelevant to ally 2-color decks and Battle/Show are irrelevant to enemy 2-color decks.
Battlelands want as few non-basics as possible, so you're better off running 3-4 battles and nothing else but basics in 2-color. Fixing is not that hard in 2-color if you know how to mulligan.
In tricolor, I wouldn't even touch showlands. Maybe a 1 or 2-of.
>>46156996
>>46156976
I'm starting to wonder about building Glissa the Traitor for EDH with some of these new clue cards. Things triggering from artifacts hitting the yard, drawing cards at the same time...yeah I'll be brewing when the spoiler is finished.
>>46157238
I mean, it is pretty straightforward and not going to do anything unexpected in a game.
>>46157259
>reveal lightning bolt
>uh okay ill take one damage
Or
>play it
>I bolt it. Why are you playing a 3 drop in RDW?
Kill yourself
>>46157158
Damn. It looks like a really good card for my GR beatdown.
>>46157253
Of course not.3 mana 5 damage is really cool
>>46157260
>Literally topdecking a free shock if your opponent denies extra draw
Ok.
>>46157158
>>46157259
I would rather play it in aRed Stompy deck
>>46157259
It's not for Modern Burn. The 3CMC should have been a hint.
>>46157260
>go into topdeck mode
>opponent shocks or bolts themselves every turn
>this is bad
>>46157158
I want emrakul to turn up now just so it can be revealed by this guy in a game
>>46157302
To be honest a top deck Bolt could win you the game sometimes whereas they would just take 1 damage with this card and mill it.
Then you draw a land and concede.
>>46157259
>3 drop
>modern burn
>>46157148
>For every answer these clues give me, they just dont make sense. It looks like this clue is only a third of the information I need, perhaps I should find two more clues and write them in my Journal, my Planeswalker Journal, which Planeswalkers typically carry to keep track of events on different planes. Planes I can explore, although I'm a moonkin, who isn't native to innistrad. Innistrad, the plane ruled by Sorin Markov, creator of the archangel avecyn, whos corruption has started me on this investigation!
>>46157262
I think for 2 color allied decks, either 4battle+4show will be the most common configuration unless you're running a very aggro deck.
Now for 2 color enemy decks, 4 painlands is a must but you probably have to adjust the amount of manlands. On 2nd thought i'd probably run 4 each too.
>>46157285
>>46157302
>i do not use lands and 1 mana filtering/ramping
if you couldn't use dumped card to get you closer to winning than dealing 2 damage to opponent's face, why do you stick in your decks?
>>46157333
okay nice meme we get it we're on innistrad ancient grudge's flavor text was too long
>>46157321
Your opponent would just let you draw it instead of putting it in your graveyard and now you have a dead card in your hand.
>>46157259
Would've been better if it was really a red Bob instead of mill shit.
Will make the Lantern matchup hilarious though
>>46157346
>ramping/filtering
>in aggro
what are you on dude
>>46157148
>>46157246
>>46157333
>actually typing long ass shit noone will read
tone down the autism please
>>46157260
>But everytime you go into topdecking with this half of your cool stuff goes down.
Please kill yourself. The card just means you start drawing every other card in your deck instead of every card, so if you were going to draw the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, ..., 10th cards from your deck normally you're now drawing the 2nd, 4th, 6th, ..., 20th cards instead. The cards you're now drawing are as equally likely to be "cool stuff" as the cards you're no longer drawing.
It's the same thing with mill.
>>46157159
Bant Investigate, Grixis Madness, five color Delirium and ally tribal.
That's the general theme for the set.
>>46157322
They are equally likely to discard your top-decked land allowing you to draw the bolt.
>>46157395
Plus you can only prevent so much drawing without dying to the burn so eventually they will need to let you draw.
>>46157158
>trying to build casual monored control, because t amuses me
>can't into card draw without inefficient artifact garbage
>this card
Mana from heaven!
>>46157371
I thought only of using this as advantage in double color decks. In burn:
>all my things have higher CMC than possible damage dealt and I do not use XR spells
I still say it's cool. It's cool, alright? I like it, really. It's just not THAT good.
>>46157425
If you had three mana to cast this guy then you don't need any more lands
Getting a land off the top is a death sentence.
>>46157276
>>46157346
The mill theory a.k you are never going to draw that anyway, but this time it burns your opponent for each card that you are never going to draw anyway.
>>46156976
Now that is a big fucking human.
>>46157158
SKRED
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>>46157448
Maybe you should learn to read.
Here: >>46157395
Pay particularly close attention to the "please kill yourself" part. This card does not in any way change the distribution of your card draws. You are as equally likely to draw lands or bolts before or after playing the card.
>>46157448
This guy is much better in a midrange shell than a burn shell, and midrange already has bob.
>>46157477
You've never played allies have you?
>>46157437
>burn
of course you don't run it in a burn deck. I said aggressive. it draws you bodies, either literally or digging for more topdecks. if your opponent denies you your efficient two and three drops then he eats it in the face. if you're playing aggro and get to the point where you're top decking you probably just need enough reach to close out the game or you're losing anyway, so that's fine.
>>46157158
>reveal a Fiery Temper
uhuehuehuhehuheuhehuheuehuehuheueuhue
>>46157158
Can't say I understand why people are focusing on burn with this. It's much better in some kind of midrange strategy, with higher cmcs. Then the choice is either take 4 damage (and maybe help turn on delirium), or they draw an extra card each turn, all while getting beat down by a 3 power menace. Not bad for three mana.
>>46157507
Would play both.
>>46157158
There MUST be some kind of Lantern deck that can abuse this
>>46156976
>>46156996
I like these cards that cause investigations and their. It's nice to see how these people are actually investigating and finding the clues, when they actually use the clues to lead up to something, they get benefits. It's quite flavorful. Too bad Investigate will be dead in the next set.
>>46157521
Why is this funny? They'll just let you draw it. It's not even a hard decision like other cards.
>>46157523
Yea, I don't know why people keep arguing this card is good in burn (it's not)
This card is clearly designed for a midrange shell.
>>46156976
I'll need to wait and see but some funny Investigate jank could come of this.
>>46157536
You just need to abuse scry with this guy. Not sure which card to abuse scry with, but that's what I would do.
>>46157555
Trips of truth
They either take 3 for free or make you pay R or 1RR. Not much of a choice.
>>46156996
Seems like that could be a good token gen for this.
>>46157595
Holy shit.
IT'S HAPPENING
>>46157555
It's funny because there's no avoiding it, have a sense of humor christ
>>46157605
Addendum : they can either choose to take 3 to the face or let you the choice of the target.
I guess it counts.
>>46157624
No it isn't
>>46157624
If anything, Hedron Alignment deck gets WORSE after rotation.
It loses Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, and lots of other delve shit to easily get one into exile and to draw.
>>46157502
Literally isn't and the math can be done to prove it, faget.
>"B-b-but you wouldn't have drawn the card anyway!"
>>46157586
You know, if they have more cards that get advantages whenever you use clues, I could see it actually adding up to a lot of value, where each clue is pretty much a draw plus bonuses.
>>46157158
He's like Bob, but a red version, with evasion. I will call him Rob.
>>46157555
Well then anon. This kind of stupidity >>46157605 is pretty funny don't you think?
>take 3 for free
>>46157401
I don't think 5 colour is viable anymore. Without fetch lands or the wedge lands, we may be back to 3 colour at most.
>>46157673
What we need is clue sac outlets other than Tamiyo's journal and the default sac. You could go with Pia and Kiran but that's even more expensive than the default sac.
Emergency card draw is nice but what we really need is other methods of sacrificing clues cheaply.
>>46157711
With the push for GW having so many clue engines, I feel like the solution is ramping your mana.
>>46156275
What is this? Vampire bitterblossom?
>>46157670
>the math can be done to prove that the order you draw from a randomized deck matters
then do the math, faggot
>>46157703
I'm not saying it's going to be a deck archetype, I'm just saying delirium is present in all colors, just like Clues are in Bant and Madness is in Grixis.
The issue I find with this is that Blue gets Madness and Clues, while there's no synergy between red and green beyond werewolf tribal - which is dogshit.
>>46157739
kind of, but lifelink instead of flying, and you can do it in opponent's turns
>>46154936
>Only 2 lands have flavor text
ASYMMETRICAL
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>>46157158
>mfw the opponent decides to send to card to the graveyard and triggers delirium in the process
>>46157711
>What we need is clue sac outlets other than Tamiyo's journal and the default sac.
I expect a modern combo deck on my desk by morning.
>>46157738
But if you're ramping your mana then there's not much point in the Briarbridge-Journal combo, since you'd be able to play out those creatures anyway.
>>46157521
Madness only triggers from your hand
>>46157794
That's great if you're playing Legacy, sure. But I think we're talking standard and clue decks will not ever see play outside of standard, if they see play in standard at all.
>>46157741
its like a 1% chance
>>46157798
I think the joke here is the OPP will take 3 damage from fiery temper no matter what
>>46157711
It's a huge strech, but, maybe it's good to play with all the clue stuff.
>>46157796
I feel like Journal's a trap, to be honest. With how many clues you get, if you just keep drawing a shitload, you'll get your combo pieces that way, rather than waiting for 3 clues.
I could definitely be wrong, and I'd love to be, to be honest. I want GW Scooby Doo to be good fun.
>>46157807
Dammit anon I said modern. This is why I don't pay you more! You're fired!
>>46157829
>target creature
>>46157829
Blue's clue generation seems pretty jank though and I'm not sure if clues are good enough to build a three-color deck around.
>>46157832
Journal is good for 3 sacs to save 6 mana not for its tutoring ability you are likely to have 3 or more tokens at some point.
>>46157832
>GW Scooby Doo
I'll use that name
>>46157832
>GW Scooby Doo
>not Scooby GU
>>46154936
Remember when wizards said they wouldn't print unfinished cycles of lands on a set? Remember when they proceeded to print unfinished cycles of lands twice in a row?
>2016
>not just reprinting the actual duals every block
standard is fucking dumb and so are collectors
>>46157858
Blue can get thopter. Thopter spy network, the 4 blue indian spy who has 2 thopters, there were also a few origins red artifacers who also came in with thopters.
>>46157939
Remember when they printed 3 allied color land cycles in a row?
>>46156976
>>46156996
>this cringeworthy keyword
>>46157986
>cringeworthy
>investigate
What ?
Remember when you bought their product anyway then complained about it on a Hungarian shrimping forum?
>>46157832
>>46157915
>>46157925
>>46157863
>not Blue's Clues
>>46157681
>Rob.
S O L D
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L
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red bob is now officially 'Rob'
>>46157832
I'll wait and see if we get any decent two-drops from clues. But let's see:
>Turn One: Play land, Thraben Inspector, generate a clue.
>Turn Two: Play land, ???
>Turn Three: Play land, Tireless Tracker.
>Turn Four: Play land, generate a clue, Briarbridge Patrol.
>Turn Five: Play land, generate a clue, Tamiyo's Journal. Opponent's turn, sac three clues to tutor, put three +1/+1 counters on Tireless Tracker and at the end of your turn, dump Ulamog or some shit on the field.
I'll admit right now that this is super fucking Christmas and ignores the fact that you're trying to stay alive again aggro or fighting against midrange or having spells countered by control but it's feasible. Besides, even if you can't acheive on turn five, cheating any creature in your library or in your hand on to the battlefield at end of turn seems pretty sweet.
It's a total of 8G to do that and it requires having three clues ready for saccing but it's still a fun little jank combo.
>>46157939
>Remember when wizards said they wouldn't print unfinished cycles of lands on a set?
No, because they didn't say that
>>46158016
But there's no Blue.
>>46157952
Izzet thopters aren't a thing though. The deck you're proposing already exists without clues and it's nowhere in the meta.
>>46158049Every deck is viable in Kitchen Table magic
>>46158024
>at the end of your turn
at the end of their turn even.
>>46158037
Not anymore, at least.
>>46157809
Show your work, that answer doesn't even make sense. 1% chance of what? That your next draw will become a land after playing this card? You'll draw an average of 1% more lands than you would otherwise? If I was playing a deck with only a handful or even no lands would there still be a 1% chance?
You can't claim retarded shit with no proof.
>>46158062
I'm not gonna do your homework for you faget.
>>46156292
>Olivia answering Sorin's call
I can ship it.
>>46157670
The Gambler's Fallacy isn't math, cuck.
>>46157208
That's not how probabilities work.
>>46157986
B-But anon that's not Megamorph.
>>46158110
This shit isn't random though, theres a limited amount of cards and your odds change with every draw.
>>46158077
>I'm claiming this
>I don't see why I should give any proof what I'm saying is true.
K.
>>46157623
Question: If you had this card in the graveyard but never transformed it, and you cast Soulflayer, would it be possible to delve it away and get the keyword abilities?
Or does the back side not exist in the graveyard? I would imagine you can't reanimate this if you didn't flip it in the first place.
>>46158186
Cards only have the properties of their front face in every zone except the battlefield
>>46158186
backside doesn't exist.
>>46158146
Any face down card in your deck is equally likely to be any card you haven't drawn yet. You could shuffle your deck 100 times and you would not change the distribution of your draws. You could take every other card in your deck and put them through a paper shredder and you wouldn't change the distribution of your draws.
Therefore a card that effectively removes every other card in your deck cannot change the distribution of your draws.
>>46158146
If it said to reveal the bottom card instead of the top card, would you still think it was bad?
>>46158197
>>46158204
Thanks. I thought that it was unlikely, but I have a set of Soulflayers that I'd love to make a deck around.
This set is kinda balls so far. Relentless Dead is the only one I've seen that I really want.
>>46158228
If you're playing Standard, you wouldn't be able to use Soulflayer anyway
Otherwise yeah I feel your pain
>>46157681
>>46158018
Did everyone got that? Sin Prodder is now Rob
>>46158268
Ιt doesn't matter what you call him since he isn't going to see any major play. It's like nicknaming Ire Shaman or some other jank rare.
>>46155633
I would say that kind of name is on par for the source material. If you were a bunch of peasants and you saw a weird haunted fog you would probably just end up referring to it as "the ghost fog"
>>46158077
>I have a totally fucking retarded opinion and there is mathematical proof I am right
Okay prove it
>psh, nothin personnel, I don't have to do you your work for you.
>>46158297
You mean Izzy Shizz?
>>46158297
ire shaman was ok. i won an IQ with her a few months back.
>>46157986
>I AM UPSET, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I REALLY AM! I AM UPSET I TELL YOU!
>WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>46158391
I like ire shaman. I know it isn't great, but I like it.
Tireless Tracker is a girl too what is this feminist faggotry?
>>46157130
He'd just give golgari leds and blue.
>>46158497
GW is meant to be a Waifu deck. They have Sigarda as their "main drop" after all.
>>46158497
Yeah, it's like they make up half the population or something
Nice prayer.
