>sci-fi melee weapons
What are some neat ideas for futuretech melee?
also post art of future close combat weapons
lightsabers
>>46148026
how do they actually work again?
something about cycling particle fields or some shit
>>46147997
Three words:OrangeTransparentChainsaw
>>46148057OrangeTransparentChainsword
>>46148057
>transparent
for what purpose
I thought the omni-tool dagger was an interesting concept. Hard-light melee weapon ideal for quick assassinations in close quarters.
>>46148040
It's plasma in a magnetic field.
>>46148099
Ironically, they aren't hardlight. They flash forge a diamond edge.
>>46148099
I'm pretty sure omni-tool weapons are actually flash forged ultra thin transparent blades made of some material, not hard light.
Makes em cooler tbqh
>>46148057
I feel like I have a Lego man of that exact thing to the last detail
>>46148138(me)
>>46148129
damnit, I should have hit update before posting
>>46147997
Ive always dug the idea of a Polearm that has a fairly functional laser in the shaft of the weapon. A sweeping or swinging weapon with a laser is badass.
>>46148040
Focusing Crystals with different properties, along with particle fields or whatever. Varies based on lightsaber.
A memoryform halberd.
Can be disguised as pretty much anything you want.
Could even be something other than a halberd, I'm just fond of polearms.
Why must sci-fi weapons look so goddamn stupid?
Yeah yeah I get it, you got the technology. But that doesn't mean you gotta make shit look stupid. No, adding 4 extra pointy ends to the thing isn't making it more effective. No adding a rotating laser chainsaw crossguard isn't either.
I mean, fuck, it's like adding lasers to a shark just because you can. It's redundant, why the fuck does a shark needs a laser?
Like, take >>46148144, that shit is efficient as it gets. What the fuck would a board with a nail in it look like in Sci-fi? Like some stupid heavy impractical thing. Well a fucking board with a nail is just as efficient and 100x cheaper. Wanna make it pratical with tech without making it stupid? How about you make a nail that has 10000x nano-jagged teeths in it like that of a great white shark so it sticks to flesh more? Now, that's futuristic, AND PRATICAL.
>>46148218
Wouldnt it be pretty flimsy though?
>>46148257
>why the fuck does a shark needs a laser?
RULE
OF
COOL
>>46148057
>>46148071
>>46148082
>>46148099
How about
An omni tool chainsaw. Boom. Its orange. And transparent. Perfect.
>>46148259
I imagine it would be crazy lightweight. Like weaponized aerogel, except sturdy enough to harm.
Good for a cutting edge, not so much for a mace.
Of course, you could just make it a ranged weapon, but OP had his specifications.
Imagine pulling off your gauntlets and having them transform into a plasma carbine.
>>46147997
A laser bow that shoots laser swords.
>>46148082
Because nothing screams "future" like impracticality made reality.
How about a knife carved from the blade of a giant animal that is imprinted to you so if you die your knife turns to dust.
I love warframe, they make weaboo fightan magic video games and doesn't afraid of anything.
>>46148257
>What the fuck would a board with a nail in it look like in Sci-fi?
It'd probably look the same as anywhere else, like a board with a nail.
But srs. i guess a Plasteel Siding Piece with Carbon Fiber Nail wouldnt be a good answer for you, either, would it.
ITT:
>What if katanas were futuristic?
>>46148459
Give it Tron lines and make the nail a glowing energy nail.
Boom, generic futuristic melee weapon.
>>46148470
>one katana image
wow what a bunch of weaboos
>>46148082
Because fuck you.
>Hard light technology comes out to the public.
>People immediately start making showy weapons.
>Someone makes a pole arm that can change between eight different pole arms
>Accidentally turn everything on at once
>>46148082
if your enemy has trouble seeing it then they'll have trouble blocking or dodging it
>>46148459
>i guess a Plasteel Siding Piece with Carbon Fiber Nail wouldnt be a good answer for you, either, would it.
nah, carbon fiber makes a terrible fastener though...deck-screws are better...
>>46148519
Judging by the progression of medieval polearms, this is a pretty accurate depiction of the weapon of the future
>>46148257
>It's redundant, why the fuck does a shark needs a laser?
To engage in ranged combat with submersibles as some sort of cybernetically remote-controlled stealth biodrone?
A sentient energy projecting gemstone.
>>46148257
This reminds me of a discussion I heard in a gun store once
> "Hey I'm looking for a cougar and beard defense pistol that can also work as my EDC"
> "Alright, here we got a Glock 22. Now this one has been customized, they added front weights to it to counter the recoil from the .40 S&W. It has also been fitted with a trigger laser and flashlight. I also added a heavier barrel and a chrome slide to better withstand weather. Springs and slide stopper are also custom here. You can fire whatever rounds you want out of this baby and it's never gonna give up on ya.
> "Alright, how much you want for it?"
> " Well gonna cut you a deal and throw in this box of RIP ammo for the critters and this legit leather holster, all for $2500""
> "Ok, and what does this one do?"
> "That's a revolver, a Taurus 608. It fires 5 big ugly heavy .357 rounds."
> "How much for that one?"
> "$300"
> "I'll take it"
>>46148519
Efficiency at its finest.
>>46148470
I only posted >>46148393 because I was trying to give an example of something impractical
His sheath is a gun
A fucking gun
But he only uses it to make his sword swing faster
>>46147997
>gelatin
did they ever bring back charge attacks?
>>46148491
Technically two.
Both of which are references to Fucking Revengeance.
>>46148317
It's been done before.
>>46148607
dat booty doe
>>46148459
Didn't they make a joke about stupidly complex Sci-Fi names in 40K?
I remember they published something that was like a Guardsman Instruction Manual, where they keep refering to method of communication by a stupidly long complex name, and it turned out to be a Pen and Paper.
>>46148634
Do not sexualize Jetstream Sam.
>>46148634
MGS has always been good at theassthetic t b h
>>46148631
huh, which unit used those?
>>46148057
T-that art... beautiful...
>>46148564
Wouldn't a shark be like
> RWAR
> MUST EAT
> WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS IN MY HEAD
> WOW BIG GIANT METAL FISH
> WONDER IF IT'S EDIBLE
> *BONK*
> FUCK THAT
>>46148655
>>46148624
>>46148584
>mall ninja shit
>>46148671
I lost it at the BONK
>>46148129
>>46148138
Oh, right, I forgot the omni-tool had limited replicator-like functions.
>>46148634
I really appreciate MGS's man-asses
>>46148671
That's why you replace most of its brain with a computer and drive it around like an RC car on command.
I never want to know the context of this image, what it was for or why it was made.
>>46148387
Wasn't that in one of the 30k novels?
>>46148716
But what about range? And battery?
What is powering the computer? And if you say you are replacing the Shark's stomach with a giant nuclear battery, then where it's gonna get it's nutrients from?
Isn't it easier to dress a remote nuke in a shark costume and send it away?
>>46148755
>Isn't it easier to dress a remote nuke in a shark costume and send it away?
I hope DARPA is monitoring this thread and I hope to god they call you in the morning with a job offer.
>>46147997
I imagine a combination taser/ baton would be the ideal, seeing as any melee weapons in the future are gonna be for riot control primarily.
>image related
>>46148668
None, sadly.
A friend of mine made it in Flash.
>>46148772
No.
Because fuck you and your simple and practical ideas.
>>46148755
>Isn't it easier to dress a remote nuke in a shark costume and send it away?
The thing is Ivan.
When you dress nuke in shark costume
Then other sharks mate with nuke.
Then you have thousands tiny nuclear sharks roaming ocean.
Dificult to catch, but taste good too.
>>46148797
well at least we did get the fucking krogan war hammer
>>46148755
So much other sci-fi shit (like combat-effective lasers in the first place) relies on implausibly powerful batteries anyway so I figured power was unlikely to be that much of a problem.
I'll admit remote control might be less practical than putting a mediocre AI in the thing if you think you can trust them.
Also I assume if you're going for the shark option you're going for extreme stealth (on the principle that they can't distinguish your craft from local wildlife if your craft IS local wildlife) so probably in this situation a nuke is a little over-radioactive and a tiny bit loud for what you're trying to do at the moment.
>>46148867
Believe it or not, Sharks and other sea animals are also slightly radioactive.
Srs, google it.
I'm not the guy you were talking to, but I figured I should share interesting facts.
>>46148720
>that astronaut with the cut cable
>>46147997
Battleaxes, crossbows, and pitfalls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWwdtBMuARc
>>46148585
>Taurus 608
>6" barrel
For curiosities sake, how are you EDC that bigiron?
>>46148907
Well, sure, but I'm assuming a nuclear blast is going to make things a lot more radioactive over a lot bigger area than a normal shark will.
>>46148613
Yes.
>>46148949
If you live way out in bear and cougar country like I do, you EDC everything.
>>46148978
Fact: Radiation from nuclear blasts fade away rather quickly.
People often mix it up with Chernobyl, which was a reactor explosion (steam explosion) followed by a leak of radioactive material into the atmosphere.
I sort of really like futuristic archaic weapons, especially bows and crossbows for some reason.
Hell even modern crossbows and compound bows I find super neat.
The only future melee, you heretic.
>>46148519
Anyone have something else like this?
>>46149341
Okay. What I don't get about warhammer is why do some of the soldier dudes have no helmets? Is it because they have a lex Luther style energy shield around their exposed noggin?
>>46149397
"iron halo" or some shit iirc
>>46149397
Western Fantasy really.
The no helmet lets you see the protagonist's face to make him/her more relatable to the audience.
>>46149397
It's pretty much pure "this character should look cool/different"
A space marine skull is probably both thicker and much much tougher than a human skull but still not up to par with their helmets.
Personally I like when even the badasses in that game having helmets. I like helmets.
>>46149435
I feel like the same could be achieved by giving them a different or distinct helmet, or a helmet with an open face.
>>46149485
Yeah, but it all depends on what the author feels is cool.
Never once does Aragorn wear a face-concealig helmet, even though he has a suit of plate.
>>46148720
> Black spacesuits
I hope they'recold-bloodedkillers.
I like the idea of melee weapons that are equipped with dissassembler nanites, they simply break apart the object at a molecular level as you strike it.
>>46148082
>Not having Space/Arctic Lego sets as a child
I'm sorry your parents didn't love you, anon.
>>46147997
Harlequins kiss.
Springloaded Mono molecular spool that turns people and things to jelly
>>46149900
Or even better, since they're more realistic and stronger anyways, Springloaded Deca-Molecular Spool, using Carbon Nanotubes as the fiber.
>>46150026
Sure sounds great!
>>46150026
Im stupid and blanking on this, what would this actually look like/do?
>>46148788
Your loyalty is commendable.
>>46150244
You know in anime when there's a character that has a super fine wire or whip which just slices through body parts? Like that except it's injected into a person.
>>46150244
Basically it's a arm strapped gauntlet(s) that shoots out lines of super dense/fine wires that pierce the target and flail around cutting it up/apart close range arm mounted blender essentially
>>46148057
>>46148409
Are you talking about the crysknives from Dune? Because that doesn't happen.
>>46148057
Fuck yes I owned these lego sets you are the man anon!
>>46147997
is that the galatine
>>46148257
>why the fuck does a shark needs a laser?
Because orcas are assholes that like to flip over sharks and drown them for shits and giggles.
Feelings on Vibroblades, /tg/?
>>46148026
On the Star Wars note, I really like the force field batons that the Stormtroopers use to fight jedi.
They'd probably be very similar to modern ones with perhaps better/more advanced construction.
If body armor tech advanced to very high levels you'd probably see stuff devoted to cutting through/around it (so an estoc made of very light and tough material probably).
A real weapon designed for war should always be practical over pretty, unless the prettiness is part of the practicality (like some kind of shiny distraction-cloth, as on a Chinese broadsword) or serves multiple purposes (i.e. the horsehair blood rags on Chinese spears that help you pull the tip out easier and make sure blood isn't running down the haft and making your hands slip).
>>46150942
Fuck you.
>>46147997
Inanimate carbon rods.
>>46149397
On the tabletop, it's often to easily and immediately distinguish the Character of a unit from the rest of the unit at a glance.
In the fluff, it's generally up to the individual in question. It is acknowledged in the fluff that a Space Marine helmet has a wide range of tactical systems and provides oxygen and a hermetic seal, in addition to armor, but many Space Marines feel it's more honorable to fight without a helmet because of their pride. Some, like the Space Wolves, have natural senses that are impeded by the use of a helmet, so they almost universally do not wear them unless absolutely necessary.
If there's a risk of chemical warfare, void warfare, or extreme climate, they will put on the damn helmet in a heartbeat.
>>46151316
Further, the black carapace under their skin means they're essentially always wearing armour. Per the fluff, you could empty a machine gun on their noggin and they'd wonder what was up with the insects this time of year.
>>46149047
They're not very good though.
Wasp knives
https://youtu.be/BMvpmGb0Fcs
>>46149341
Reminder that 40K should never be used to exemplify anything "good" or "effective"
>>46149329
Favorite "future-xbow" trope is when the crossbow can deliver payloads other than a bit of metal, like explosive, EMP, etc.
What is wrong with all of you? You shit on the honor and memory of the Free Planets Alliance with the omission of the GRANDDAD of scifi and melee combat - die Rosen Ritter!
>>46152600
>free
>planets
>alliance
Monowire whips and monowire swords/knives, especially if the blade is really just a monowire chain held up by some kind of field so you can shorten and extend it.
Also nonlethal things like effective stun gloves and batons, or something that can deliver any kind of high-tech poison.This is all from GURPS ultratech
>>46152600
>reading depression era sci fi
>a six foot four viking motherfucker is the best friend of a ubermensch genius
>he boards the enemy space ship they boarded by firing a gun during hyperspeed that was connected to the ship via a extension tube
>he fights with a goddamn vibroaxe
Man OG sci fi is dank
>>46148057
>>46150526
I'm personally fluffing this as some kind of manufactured diamond or transparent alumina. It's stained orange for visibility in cold climates and safety in general (nobody wants to deal with a nearly invisible chainsaw, not even the person using it)
>>46150716
I think that came up in one of his son's books. Before that, I'm not sure about being person specific, but there was something that made them disintegrate.
As time moves forward, edged and bludgeoning weapons become more and more antiquated. I don't think they have any place in the future at all and are merely a romantic holdaway for a time gone by.
>>46152858
Stabby>Choppy
>>46152875
I agree that, in almost any context, a rapier is preferable to a chopping sword and a stab-oriented knife is much preferable to a machete, but I think that either is, in any context, directly inferior to a sufficiently flexible gun.
>>46152858
At least in modern day terms, spacesuits are made with the same materials and design considerations as bulletproof armor (to withstand being struck by tiny rocks in space). Ballistic weaponry would probably be much less effective at puncturing a suit and causing a leak than some kind of sharp blade would be (especially as the blade would be able to target and cut weak points in the suit), never mind the fact that aiming and firing a ballistic weapon in zero gravity would probably be pretty difficult.
>>46152924
>aiming and firing a ballistic weapon in zero gravity would probably be pretty difficult.
I don't follow - why?
>Ballistic weaponry would probably be much less effective at puncturing a suit and causing a leak
I see what you mean, but I fail to see how this has much relevance. In the foreseeable future (next couple hundred years) much MUCH more fighting will be done on the ground than in space. Yeah, it's compelling to write about the small amount of conflict that may occur in a zero-gravity, zero-atmosphere environment, but I don't think it has any grounding in legitimate SCIENCE-FICTION (compare to SCIENCE FANTASY). Even then, navigating terrain is so much more difficult in zero gravity that a ranged weapon would probably be infinitely more effective than a weapon requiring close-quarters engagement.
>>46152900
machetes are not going away though as they are quite useful as tools rather than weapons
>>46152977
Recoil in micro-gravity turns the gun into a maneuvering jet.
>>46153031
Yeah, I should stipulate that I mean in the context of martial conflicts.
That is, people with the capacity to be ideally armed for the conflict in which they are engaged.
Maybe, people fighting for the sake of non-governmental organizations will occasionally be armed with non-ballistic weapons for the foreseeable future, on occasion. Still, this will grow less and less likely.
My point is not about stabbing vs. slashing weapons, but more about the gradual decline and persistent clinging to of melee weapons. Eventually, there will be enough guns/gyrojets (whatever) that melee weapons will be a small (and underclassed) consideration in every martial context. It is only our cultural baggage that makes us retain these in RPG contexts, which I must add is not necessarily a bad thing. Jedi are fucking cool. They're compelling to read about in part because they use a weapon so ill-fitted for their context. But as time goes on, you need more and more handwaving to justify their illogical weapon choice. That's all.
>>46153081
Yeah, that's true, but you have, as mentioned previously in my comment, gyrojet weapons which use individually propelled ammunition rather than conventional rounds.
When we do actually see zero-gravity space conflict, I'm sure the necessary innovations will be made quickly and cost-effectively.
I'm not making this comment to shit on all the cool melee weapons in space - it exists mostly as a reality check. I totally agree with the rule of cool, but don't let it dictate your worldview.
>>46148920
He's dead already, every single one of the suit-layers have been breached.
>>46148057
Is it weird that my brains thinking Dead Space (damn you ds3)
Also, do you think all those chainswords came from early early Dredd?
So I am planning a science fantasy space opera setting with shields, artificial gravity, faster than light travel, and magic.
I want to include melee weapons but I feel I need some kind of justification over why anyone would use a sword over a gun (or magic, if able).
so far excuses I have come up with are:
>rule of cool
>Extreme close quarters fighting with very limited sight lines combined with the protection offered by personal shields
>maybe the space magic shields are better at blocking bullets than swords for some reason? or perhaps the shields are not effective at all against melee weapons?
>>46148624
Swap the silly tanto bit for a hardened spike and it would be interesting. I always wondered why, with the prevalence of crazy ceramic super armor no one in the future has thought of something like a warpick. It's literally just the board with a nail in it taken to the end of its logical development, and it can pierce armor like nobody's business, there's a reason they were popular during the heyday of full plate
>>46148651
What you gon do about it tough guy?
>>46153290
Ur mom.
>>46149485
That dude is gonna get stabbed in the eye, and then what good will his fancy helmet do him?
>These full-length edged weapons gather energy from a system of electrical cores and charging caps in the hilt, converting the entire length of the blade into a plasma cutting torch.
Ouch.
>>46150994
I feel like what you would probably end up with is something like a superhardened warpick or warhammer. The old spike onna stick
>>46152737
That sounds sick, name of the book?
>>46148157
>pic
This is not a weapon, though.
>>46149341
He said "sci-fi", not "fantasy".
>>46150716
>>46152833
The fuck are you two talking about? The original story talked about "fixed" and "unfixed" crysknives , with the unfixed knives needing to be near the body's electromagnetic field or some bullshit or they disintegrate.
http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Crysknife
>>46154629
Bullshit.
>>46154702
From the first part of book 1. You can Google it yourself.
>>46147997
I like the Dune idea of personal shields and fighting techniques that bypass them. Don't stab too fast or it will get repelled.
>>46152858
I dunno about that.OP's sword kills around 2,760 space marines per 2 hours, but only because magical space ninjasthat got nerfed story-wise when they awoke from the Second Dreamare bored of using a not!Famas or not!Soviet Silenced Grenade Launcher
>>46148057
>>46150526
Ugh, I had a picture of this set and I spent my childhood yearning for it and I never got it.
>>46152737
sauce?
>>46154873
I'll stick to my gilded not!chauchat, thankyouverymuch.
>>46148259
Access to infinitely strong materials is generally taken for granted when designing SciFI melee weapons.
>>46149397
because when you look at WH40k art of someone fighting, you aren't looking at the actual event itself. instead, you're looking at the artistic depiction of said event made by an imperial artist
>>46149397
Warhammer aims at a realism level roughly comparable to Looney Tunes.
>>46150423
>>46150444
So the same as a Harlie kiss then?
>>46149289
Same difference. Nuclear is bad.
>>46153310
Ha, Guts would never get hurt.
speaking of scifi weaponry, I'm planning on having loot drops come from a pool of random printed-out weapon "cards"
is this a cute idea or bad in a video-gamey way
>>46148138
>>46148129
Yeah, it's nanomachines, son.
>>46148257
>What the fuck would a board with a nail in it look like in Sci-fi?
PlasSteel board with a diamond tipped anchor-spike in it, flexible plasSteel means it's harder to block than a wooden board even as it's harder to break, and the diamond tipped anchor-spike smoothly glides into whatever surface it hits, penetrating through whatever it touches until it hits base and then it suddenly embeds in a way specially calibrated so that instead of reinforcing the materal around it like the Anchor-Spike usually does instead it weakens and damage the surrounding material, meaning that it does most of its damage from being pulled out of what it's stuck in - it's ability to tear holes in ANY material is why anyone seen waving a board with a spike in it on a space station or space ship is generally targeted and taken out with a extreme prejudice before people using laser guns and other more obviously lethal weaponry
DRIVE BLADE
>>46149289
>Fact: Radiation from nuclear blasts fade away rather quickly.
Yeah, a bomb containing a few dozen kg of radioactive fuel, and which then spreads the isotopes created all around, isn't going to leave much radiation in any one place, so once the most active stuff has decayed things won't be so bad. Whereas an RMBK reactor has a fuel load of almost 170 metric tons of uranium.
We're still talking about a massive decontamination effort if you want to live there in the next few centuries though.
There's enough radioactive isotopes around form the nuclear testing that anyone, worldwide, born in the fifties and onwards can have his birth and death radio-dated through them.
>>46153204
>Also, do you think all those chainswords came from early early Dredd?
Nemesis the Warlock, actually, just like loads of other things.
>>46148082
>>46148317
>>46152784
I always assumed that the orange transparent was meant to imply that it's glowing red hot so it would cut through ice faster, because it came with the arctic set.
>>46152784
>I'm personally fluffing this as some kind of manufactured diamond or transparent alumina. It's stained orange for visibility in cold climates and safety in general (nobody wants to deal with a nearly invisible chainsaw, not even the person using it)
No, it's Frozen Laser, look it up!
http://brikwars.com/wiki/index.php?title=Orange_Transparent_Chainsaw
>>46152924
>Ballistic weaponry would probably be much less effective at puncturing a suit and causing a leak than some kind of sharp blade would be (especially as the blade would be able to target and cut weak points in the suit)
Hell, I came up with a back story for a Gundam setting where they just started jabbing things into the atmosphere exchange ports to vent the suit.
This and a ban on using ballistic weaponry anywhere it could hit a Space Colony lead to the creation of giant mecha Mobile Suits.
>>46153246
>So I am planning a science fantasy space opera setting with shields, artificial gravity, faster than light travel, and magic.
>I want to include melee weapons but I feel I need some kind of justification over why anyone would use a sword over a gun (or magic, if able).
Easy, the penetration power needed to get through the personal shields is far greater than what most starship interiors are designed to withstand.
Thus, in order to safely kill someone shielded without venting that section of ship, you need close quarters precision and limitation.
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>>46156832
>handle bending at the bottom even though literally nothing is forcing it to do so
>the amount it's even bending to begin with under all that force
that things gonna fucking snap senpai
anime is literally the worst
>>46156703
I spy...
>>46147997
A normal shiv.
Why? Because if you shiv the bad guy in the back of his head he dies.
>>46157345
What if the back of his head is shivproof?
>>46148257
Rule of cool, in a practical scifi you wouldn't use melee weapons (they're tools you use to boot someone in the RARE, RARE, RARE, VERY FUCKING RARE case it comes down to it) or you'd be a street thug using them for intimidation.
>>46157396
Same as when australian fauna and flora is no longer considered dangerous.
You give up, he's won at evolution and life.
Go do something else, like becoming world renown chess player or a lowly data clerk.
>>46147997
I pick shotgun as my close combat weapon.
Really, melee imply that you can outspeed supersonic pieces of metal flying in your direction.
MAYBE some kind of anti-armor thing like Monofilament blade.
I've actually been thinking on this a lot lately. In my sci-fi setting frontier survival is a major theme, so "weapon" is a secondary use of a "tool"(just use a gun if you want to kill).
I was thinking of a knife with a blade like this: >>46148681 that could be rotated to form a climbing axe or pick. The hilt could telescope out, too, turning it into a spear.
>>46148720
I don't know why, but that is the funniest shit I've seen in a good while.
>>46147997
Not actually a scifi weapon, but sufficiently ridiculous to pass as one.
>>46156832
DID SOMEONE SAY ROCKET HAMMER
If you want ridiculous weapons, just look at the roster of Anarchy Reigns.
>Developed as an energy saw to scrap obsolete ships, this tool was quickly banned when rebels in the Sedna region discovered it also made an excellent weapon.
>>46147997
Chainflail
>>46158446
Uh, what? Do you mean chainflail like chain sword?
Because otherwise a flail already has a chain...
Oh how lucky I am to have found this thread when I actually need it!
Anybody have any plasma sword art? Something that could fit in near-future tech, but more of a fallout or dystopian aesthetic rather than anime or super scifi? Thanks
>>46148585
>.40 glock
>rip ammo
>Taurus
What a dank gun shop.
>>46158470
Weapon in one of the 40k RPGs. Pretty much a weed whacker crossed with a chainsaw
>>46158645
And it's as dangerous to the user as it sounds.
>>46158666
Which makes it all the more glorious
>>46158776
Now I'm having this vision of a slob Grey-Knight being asked by his mom-Draigo to go mow the lawn. He sighs, gets up and takes his backpack then he goes to pick up the force weedwhacker he has been given to defeat the enemy.
He goes outside and you can see the grass squirming around because of the influence of the warp before Mcslob decides to genocide it.
>>46158596
Some one explain this picture, please.
Is the hammer on some sort of spinning disk or something? What the fuck.
>>46157680
>using a shotgun on a spaceship
You really want to kill everyone on board including yourself, huh?
>>46159032
Are you stupid?
>>46159032
I thought shotguns were supposed to be especially good for spaceship stuff specifically because the penetration is kinda shit so you're unlikely to accidentally let all the atmosphere out.
>>46158124
That's a throwing knife, correct?
>>46147997
>>46159012
The firing pin missed multiple times because the hammer isn't properly fastened, which in itself is a danger.
Taurus has a history of making... subpar quality firearms to say the least. Usually their revolvers are pretty good, since it's hard to fuck up a revolver.
![combat_eva_suit_by_longgi-d4kneme[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dYUnw3L.jpg "combat_eva_suit_by_longgi-d4kneme[1].jpg")
I always liked the idea of melee making a big comeback in a future of semi-realistic space vessels and stations, and in turn the use of a one-handed melee weapon or firearm in junction with a shield. The shields, though not large, could be very dense and multi-layered, as even simulated gravity would be weaker that a full g, and with future-materials they wouldn't even necessarily need to be all that heavy.
Additionally, because you would inevitably be wearing an EVA suit if you knew combat was eminent, 1/2 of your armaments would be built into the suit, or attached to the suit it's self. Not like, Iron-Man style where they're invisible until activated, but similarly they would fold up as best as they realistically could when not in use.
The armaments of the day would be semi-auto handguns/arm-mounts, shields, advanced knives, a kind of boarding harpoon or grappling launcher, and any proper ordinance would generally be provided by the ships, because if you're just there to kill people nothing'll do that faster than just destroying their ship.
Because most man-to-man fighting would be done form either the far side of tight halls, or face-to-face at junctures, I imagine handguns, knives, and notably compact semi-automatic rifles or shotguns would be the order of the day.
>>46158163
>double-sided Jat Kittag
>>46159032
>Really really short effective range so no rounds flying way off in a large room.
>Huge spread of shot making hallways the ideal space.
>Shot pellets have very little penetration power against anything not made of meat so great for indoors in something you do not want damaged
>Full spread also means aiming is not as important and decent for a quick firefight indoors is something happens
What the hell do you think a shotgun does?
>>46159353
I liked the idea of melee weapons being the main goto weapon in a space based artificial environment like a ship or a station where you absolutely DO NOT want a stray bullet going through a wall and killing everyone.
So knives and clubs come back as the main means of defense in a space station market as everything else is forbidden on the rule of common damn sense.
>>46159532
shoot pieces of metal very very fast.
if you want to argue that you can use something like birdshot that won't damage the hull then you might as well use fucking nerf guns. Humans are going to survive anything weak enough to not damage a ship's interior unless you can convince them to shove your barrel 7 inches down their throat, at which point you might as well use A FUCKING KNIFE.
>>46156703
Seriously? Because the image I posted was from a 1977 issue of 2000ad, Warlock didn't exist until 1980s issue 167 of 2000ad.
I hope you can see how it doesn't make sense.
>>46159662
>spaceship hull being pierced by small-arms fire
There is no way that's more of a concern than electronics and shit being damaged
>>46159662
>Never once held or fired a shotgun and has no idea what the fuck they can and cannot do
got it
>>46159662
>Humans are going to survive anything weak enough to not damage a ship's interior
That's the fucking point moron, stopping power. You can shoot someone and stop them without blowing them completely apart with overwhelming firepower. A pop in the knee stops a man.
And no buckshot cannot really harm the side of a car much less something that travels through space and can take exterior damage from things like debris, asteroids, atmospheric reentry....
>>46158213
>>46158163
>>46147997
A lot of people shit on it, but i love Warframe's aesthetic
>>46159758
Course not, it's not even likely that you would be next to the hull at any given moment. that's why I generalized to "ship's interior"
>>46159772
>Also hasn't, and won't admit they're wrong
>and doesn't understand the relative difference between the hardiness of the human body and delicate electronics.
>>46159803
Anything with enough stopping power to reliably stop a human is going to be strong enough to damage the computer in charge of maintaining oxygen, the pipes pumping the oxygen, the wires keeping the lights on or any other number of things that are keeping your space ship working.
>buckshot cannot really harm the side of a car
And if we made delicate electronics out of car doors you might have point. except you still wouldn't because you're lying out of your fucking ass.
>exterior damage
You realize that when discussing a fight INSIDE a spaceship that kind of implies the INTERIOR right?
The threshold between "can kill or stop a human" and "won't cause damage to your ship" is nonexistent. Would you fire a shotgun INSIDE your car? would you rely on birdshot to actually incapacitate someone trying to kill you? Are you actually this stupid or is this half decent bait?
If nothing else, firing a shotgun in a sealed metal can of a ship would blow your fucking eardrums out, the particulates would wreak havoc with the system, and igniting an explosive is fucking stupid in a highly oxygenated environment.
>>46156703
>thinks nemesis influenced shit
>doesn't know nemesis owes dredd for its existence
>doesn't know nemesis was created by a original contributing writer and co-developer of dredd
>thinks nemesis came before dredd
what are you doing, man?
>>46148129
reminder that warframe is the only piece of fictional media that has gotten the concept of gunblades right
>>46148519
Damn fifteenth century Orks.
>>46149341
That was kind of the enemy soldiers to only aim at his shield.
>>46158124
Where are my powerfist niggas
>>46152858
Maybe related or maybe not.
But I think you may be wrong. I´m in the navy. Now weaponry isn´t my specialty but I know what weapon-systems we have, what weapon-systems our probable enemy has, what counter-measures we have and what they have.
And I must say, that weapons/counter is getting so advanced today they are almost even. And considering how fast these things gets more advanced and accurate, modern weaponry are almost obsolete and useless because the counter-measures are (or almost are) equally advanced and accurate.
My point being, we are almost at a point were modern missiles/torpedos wont penetrate the ships defense-systems at all, so the most useful weapon to sink another ship right now is a 1000years idea of a metal pipe pushing a couple of kilos of metal/gunpowder into another ship.
>>46160166
Meanwhile in Space Africa.
>>46153380
>>46155767
Lensman series, E.E.Smith. Sounds like he's talking about Galactic Patrol, though there's plenty of juicy boarding action throughout.
>>46147997
>>46160529
Doesn't ring true with the characters that are described.
Dumping the LoL PROJECT: skins because they're relevant and their art is nice
>>46159662
"I don't know ANYTHING about firearms" the post
>>46160596
>>46160613
>>46160630
>>46160647
>>46160166
Khopeshes are the most baller fucking weapon ever.
>>46160767
You just can't stab with them, but for cutting the limbs of a motherfucker with style, then I agree, they're pretty baller.
>>46160841
They're swords that want to be axes. Or axes that are as sleek as swords.
Just chop away, son.
>>46152924
So why not just shoot knives? Instead of designing the bullet to penetrate, design it to lacerate. Shoot goddamn chakram, there's no need for it to be muscle-powered.
>>46160841
I mean you could stab with it if you were a real go getter. Maybe not nearly as effective as chopping, but hey, if you get the opportunity to stab, it's still a pointy piece of metal that would fit nicely in a chest cavity.
>>46160566
That looks like someone's fursona doing a Kill La Kill cosplay.
>>46159032
No choke mossberg 500s with 00 buck have been the standard repel borders amarment for the US submarine force.since the 1960s because submarines have the same kind of problems that a spacecraft would.
Namely:
- The stuff outside the ship wants to kill you (actually moreso than in space)
- The stuff pipes running everywhere is under a ton of pressure and will kill you if you're in the path of a pipe rupture.
- There are huge bombs in here.
- The place is packed to the walls with vital equipment some of which is also explosive.
If your ship is particularly flimsy you can downgrade to smaller shot.
>>46160767
>>46160841
>>46160873
You can stab with anything if you are strong enough.
My dad had a 2nd degree cousin who was a Green-Beret during vietnam. He used to tell this story where he ended up stabbing a guy in the stomach with a FLAT ENDED machete. Just rammed it until it went in. The way he told it also gave me nightmares.
>>46160957
It's supposed to. If they wanted to make it not so obvious, they'd move the eyes away from the shoulders,
>>46160949
>>46161012
Can confirm.
I've read accounts of people stabbing each other with fucking shovels.
Literally, fucking shovels. Using it as spears and shit.
>>46147997
The galantine is my waifu
>>46160957
It is. Thank god for the rebirth of the age of patronage. Any faggot with some cash and a dumb idea can have it immortalized in fine art. Truly the Greeks would weep to know what they're missing.
>>46148145
That's because its a drawing of a legoman in realistic style.
>>46159890Gram > Galatine
>>46148257
>Muh realism
You people are always as no fun allowed as possible.
>>46148257
>why the fuck does a shark needs a laser
Because it's a frickin' shark with a laser beam, preferably on the head, there's no reason NOT to have it, other than not enough money or too much effort, and if you've got enough money to put a laser beam on a shark's head, you've probably more than you know what to do with
>>46159890
I play the game regularly and shit on it just as regularly, but the aesthetic is absolutely fantastic for the most part.
>>46161087
If real life giant ass relic swords are getting shit on because /tg/ tards can't warp their heads around the idea that maybe there were people back then that couldn've used them, then so is your goddamn reduntant sci-fi weaponry.
TL;DR, I'm mad because /tg/ thinks reality is unrealistic (THERE ARE OVER 1000 OF THOSE GIANT ASS SWORDS) so I get to shit on your unrealistic shit too.
>>46160120
To be fair, most soldiers are trained to aim at the torso as you have the best chances of actually hitting something.
>>46161087
This is the board that shits on 40k Chainswords and Chainaxes and Chain-Weapons in general when the fucking lore itself provides reasonable explanation to how they function and how they make sense. Are you mad that someone else is shitting on absurd weapons with no background explanation?
>>46161012
>Just rammed it until it went in
This is both the solution and the cause of many problems in life.
>>46160841
>You just can't stab with them
Yeah, the tip here most definitely can't stab. No sir, no way in hell. And since it's balanced like an axe instead of a sword (this is true because I know it and if medieval swords weren't really heavy choppers then something must be because it just has to) then it will twist and turn and flip around and kill you and your dog and summon Satan.
Best melee weapon is objectively the Mine Flail.
>>46159890
Warframe has amazing aesthetics, I love the grineer designs.
Shame everything else about the game is garbage.
>>46161187
Exactly. Why don't more people get this? It could save a lot of lives. RIP Rover you were taken from us too soon.
>>46161012
A flat bladed machete still has an edge perpendicular to the length. If it was blunt tip that rounded back, he would've had a little more trouble breaking skin.
The shovel thing is a little dumb, as the edge is thin enough in comparison to the surface space of a persons torso to create the tension/torque to break skin.
Think about trying to break skin with a sledgehammer, you can break skin with the corners and edges, but the sides' comparative thickness is too wide.
>>46148646
The Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer.
I own one. It is nothing but a string of jokes at the setting and goofy propaganda and it is glorious. I love the page that instructs you to audibly recite the Litany of Stealth when sneaking up on an enemy. Or how about when you have to somehow simultaneously hold your breath, recite a litany, and 'swim' back to the ship when you find yourself vented out into the void for whatever reason.
>>46161229
I think they where just making a point that if you apply enough force you can impale someone with anything.
Also making a point about how absolutely brutal people can be.
>>46149397
>Is it because they have a lex Luther style energy shield around their exposed noggin?
For the fancier dudes, yes, they have those, but it's too expensive to give to everyone, so most dudes wear helmets.
I don't know about basic squad sergeants, though. They might just have balls of steel.
>>46161150
Chain-weaponry in real life would make absolute sense if we had the tech to make it work and we had to cut through the kinds of armor they do in 40k.
People who say otherwise are retarded.
>>46161150
>>46161324
Actually, how do Chainswords really work? I know there's a print from white-dwarf of a codex that explains it, but I really wanna know how.
>>46161122
So someone shit on you so you spray more shit in petty vengeance? In your words, that's not very effective.
>>46148257
>I mean, fuck, it's like adding lasers to a shark just because you can. It's redundant, why the fuck does a shark needs a laser?
Because every creature deserves a warm meal.
>>46161340
They are basically high-tech chainsaws.
However the teeth are made of a metal that's both incredibly sharp and strong enough not to wip or kick back when it makes contact with something that it can't cut. When this happens it starts chipping away at it. It also rotates fast enough to cut things instantaneously, like a sword would, and also making it harder to clog (tho it does happen and there's a mention somewhere in a Chaos codex where Kharn gets Gorechild clogged and has to kill people with his hands).
Apparently the teeth also vibrate incredibly fast, making them vibro-blades, which help with the cutting part. Then there is some piece of tech that stabilizes the blade and allows you to manuever it while the teeth are spinning (in real life, a chainsaw can only a certain way and not change direction, because some physics phenomenon makes it hard to chance the blade's direction when the teeth are spinning) .
And even with all this, the lore mention they break constantly from hard use and need to be repaired (with the exception of Chaos weapons which repair themselves or never actually break), which adds to the realism, even the most complex engineered crap will break irl.
>>46161262
My dream is to someday be so swole that I can stab people with a basketball. Come on and slam, and welcome to the stab.
>>46161466
It's not the size of your jam, it's how you slam it.
>>46148082
Have you no romance left in your heart?
>>46161466
Pretty sure that if you shoot a basketball out of one of those anti-ship cannons in naval warfare, it would just go right through you.
Or at least explode you.
>>46161262
Oh, I wasn't criticizing. Just working it out outloud. Basically just working out how forcing a blunt object through a cut is the same and not the same as impaling.
Sure, with the machete, it's as simple as using the edge where the top and front meet to create a gash then going the opposite way (parabolic arc) to impale, but that'd simply never happen with an identical machete with that edge filed down. So, if we're counting the second acting as the impaling then you can basically impale with anything, granted theirs a breach in the skin. Baseball bat, cup, remote control, etc.
>>46161216
man i legitimately like warframe. its cool space ninja shit.
that said i see the complaints. Aesthetic is great though
>>46161972
The problem is that it is a gigantic grindwall, and they keep removing any way to efficiently grind.
>>46162191
Which grinds are you complaining about in particular?
>>46162695
Not him but
>grind bosses for items to make weapons/frames (characters)
>grind enemies to collect mods to make weapons/frames remotely viable
>grind exp to level weapons/frames
>find out your stuff is shit, grind for different stuff
>grind items to put more mods on everything
>grind for keys that let you enter special stages
>grind those stages for items to make white and gold versions of weapons/frames that are also better
>get to '"'endgame content'"'
>the rewards are terrible weapons and a few OK items
>those items let you grind for exp for a couple of abilities and bonuses
>real endgame is standing around looking pretty
