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What is your favorite spell? Describe your ideal spellbook looks.
>>46141127
>What is your favorite spell?
GREASE
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I have a player who wants to use http://www.naturalcrit.com/homebrew/share/V1nPgkChx to make a were-cat. It seems pretty balanced as far as these things go and decent handling of a were.
I am running Curse of Strahd and she has been bitten before this. I am planning on running Death House and I thought it would be interesting to have her lose control the first time of her change. How would you handle this? Anyone with experience of CoS have an idea of where this change should best take place? I thought it might be good and horror-y to have it interrupt a long rest.
Does the mega link contain the actual curse of Strahd book? Cant seems to find it there, only maps of the area.
So how do I build a space-faring craft by myself (with maybe the help of another wizard) at relatively low level?
>>46141155
>casting grease on opponent's shoes
Invisibility. An hour of screwing with people so long as I don't attack or cast spells
>>46141127
Anything I can fluff to be body horror or tentacles. Bonus points for any spell which can be fluffed as body horror AND tentacles.
Wizard finished! That's all of the classes done, including all SCAG options. I went back and edited some of the earlier ones I had done for consistency.
Please let me know if you catch any errors.
>>46141213
some people were scanning pages from it, did we ever compile it all into a mega link?
>>46141155
For non-combat purposes, Disguise Self is an amazing spell. For only 1 level in Bard, Sorcerer, Wizard or Cleric, you can fashion the perfect disguise for no material cost.
Guards looking for you? Sorry, guvnah, i'm just a poor cockney peasant, I aint seen no magician.
Need to be somewhere you shouldn't? Move along citizen, nothing to see here, just a guard doing guardy things.
It's a pretty OP spell as long as you are an average-sized character and you don't give anyone reason to suspect you.
>>46141341
didn't realise it was a question in the post, ignore reply to user.
>>46141212
Furfag shit is a warning sign. Don't open the floodgates to the magical realm.
Also, as it has been said on here, CoS is the time to be spooked by badass horror creatures, not to be a badass horror creature
>>46141254
pls iterate the version numbers (1.5a or whatever) so we know which ones have change from when we downloaded them
>>46141127
My favorite spell is definitely Polymorph (or, you know, True Polymorph if you're capable of casting it instead).
It can load on a lot of buffer health like a Moon Druid while also potentially boosting a party member's attack power. It can also be used directly on an enemy; you can turn them into a harmless creature and capture them. Sure, if you "kill" them, they just transform back. You know that. I know that. The NPC probably doesn't know that. Toying with someone you just turned into a frog or spider or something is a great way to make them fear you. Then, you just cancel the spell & they believe it was an act of mercy that you spared them. It also just has so much versatility. Need to climb up a wall? Turn your fighter into a giant spider and ride him up the cliff. Don't have a boat when you need one? Turn your rogue into a giant crocodile & ride him across the water. There's also just satisfying about turning a party member into a mount to ride them into battle to gain the associated bonuses (With the Mounted Combatant Feat, you'll get advantage on pretty much every melee attack you ever try to do).
>>46141439
I am reserving version changes on the pages themselves for very major changes, as that is nearly 50 pdfs I would need to open and edit a single number on. I will probably just put a text file on the mega with a title that indicates the last update, and inside detailing a changelog.
Here you go
Spent the whole weekend scanning this shit, hope it was fucking worth it.
>>46141675
>posting this again
>>46141675
Ain't even mad.
>>46141675
>>46141127
>favorite spell
Expeditious retreat, for my Eldritch Knight, to track down fools who would try and run from me.
>favourite spell
Alter self, it's so fucking useful
>need to sneak into royal ball? change into a recognised noble and incapacitate him before hand
>need to gain information from a captive? alter self into someone they trust like a family member or someone from their tribe
>want better prices from the town blacksmith? turn into a busty wench and flirt a little
>>46141127
>Favorite spell
Minor Illusion. I have a crazy DM who lets me get away with anything with it.
Hunger of Hadar for fluff.
how do you guys feel about cliffhangers?
Due to schedule conflicts, I had to cut my last session short right after the party ran into a dragon. It only got off one breath weapon use before we had to call it for the day.
Yeah, it builds tension, but our next session will be super lopsided as a result.
Favorite spell is Vicious Mockery, hands down.
>>46141833
should have ended it after meeting it, before combat, imo
>>46141127
Misty Step, easily. Being able to get past obstacles is often useful and the mobility from getting what is basically a Disengage + Dash from a bonus action is great. It's just a shame you can't cast non-cantrip spells in the same turn as it, at least not RAW.
>>46141807
>hunger of hadar for fluff
....what exactly goes on in that AoE when you cast it anon?
>>46141226
Arms of hadar
>>46141902
Cthulhu, a black hole, and Ghaunadaur have gay sex.
Forever DM so I haven't ever cast a fucking spell yet other than from enemies.
That said, I dig the idea of being a utility/combat-altering character, so Minor Illusion sounds like it would have a lot of applications
>illusory intruder running through a room to draw guards away
>illusory voice screaming for help from elsewhere in the castle
>illusory archers on the walls so the enemy thinks they're outnumbered
>illusory fire to block off a corridor
The only limit seems to be how much bullshit your DM is willing to put up with
>>46141254
typo on bard char sheet
>Espertise
no biggie, but you did ask
>>46141950
You forgot
>illusory box with a slit in it around you for instant 3/4 cover
>>46141127
Melfs Minute meteors is great.
Otherwise my favourite is Inflict wounds.
A great early spell.
Even made remade homebrew on Long death monks with it.
Basically replaces the lvl 3 feature and costs 1 ki plus you can use the martial arts or flurry unamred strikes with it.
>>46141794
Water filling roomtrap? Grow gills. Only one spellslot, no weapon, nonmagical immune monster? Grows some magic claws and shred the bitch.
>>46141794
I like it, except
>want better prices from the town blacksmith? turn into a busty wench and flirt a little
Haggling for the prices of minor goods is my least favourite thing in the game. By all means, negotiate on big deals that matter, but not on shit that costs fucking 50 gp.
>>46141675
That's some impressive compression, fitting it in 814 kb.
>>46142141
Not everyone gets to play with a GM who thinks 50gp doesn't matter.
>>46142141
At early levels, every gp counts. You never know when a cache of a few coins in a previously-visited city can make the difference between success and failure, as well as being able to support allies from afar.
>>46141254
CharSheetAnon, any chance of doing a Blood Hunter sheet? My DM is going to let me play one for CoS.
>>46142512
Sure, I can do one later tonight, as well as that anon that wanted the UA spell-less ranger.
>>46142573
You're a cool cat, anon. I don't know that we deserve you.
>>46141675
>>it's not even touhou futa
baka anon
>>46142573
>the UA spell-less ranger.
Sweet, thanks! You know what it's like to have that one player who never prepares...
>>46142612
Nah, I am just an unemployed free-lance artist that is between client projects, and a forever DM with a gap in campaign planning. The stars sort of aligned to allow me so much consecutive free time to do this sort of thing.Also I and several of my players are unhappy with the current character sheet offerings, so it is mostly a selfish project.
>>46141127
>favorite spell
probably dispel magic
>>46142958
Somebody doesn't like fun.
Starting a new campaign and one of the players wants to be a necromancer and the other an "urge-to-purge" paladin. Have any of you had any experience where this can work in a round about way?
>>46143155
what does the Pally want to purge specifically?
>>46143155
So long as the Necromancer wants to protect the innocent it shouldn't be a problem. He could even specifically use the remains of the evil in the hopes of providing them with some form of redemption.
>>46143121
>>46143175
Generic evil stuff: undead, orcs, etc.
>>46143155
One time, my party went to Hell. Using a variant rule, they had to roll to see if their alignments would temporarily switch to lawful evil. Well, that happened to the rogue. The paladin, clever as he is, locked a "prevents your alignment from changing with dangerous electroshocks" collar on the rogue AFTER this happened. Breaking the collar would make it explode. At one point, the paladin kidnapped the rogue & took away the rogue's evil device that he received from the big bag. Once they beat the big bad, the paladin smashed the collar, killing the rogue.
>>46143212
Thats great thanks, I'll ask the paladin about it.
>>46141982
That's retarded, if the projectile hits the box it hits you as well.
>Want to run Death House in the run up to CoS getting scanned
Should I lv.2 them when they get to the basement or let them fight the Shambling Mound at lv.1. 4 players.
I don't wanna 4k them but I don't want Ravenloft to be 2pussy.
>>46143684
don't let them fight the mound at lvl 1, it'll be a TPK in two turns max.
>>46141902
Hadar is a Great Old One. (No, not Ben-Hadar, that's a water elemental.) The Hadar mentioned in Hunger of Hadar is drawn from 2e and 4e.
Red Steel: good or bad?
>>46143684
maybe a Gibbering mouther or some kind of ooze instead?
>>46143697
But like they can avoid the fight by sacrificing one party member.
Or run the fuck away through a house full of traps and do a DC15 acrobatics/int to not take 2d10 from the slashy Japanese horror door.
>>46143684
You could follow the suggestions in the actual adventure and level them up to 2 when they discover the secret stairs to the attic. Death House is super deadly already, you're going to kill characters without needing to make it more dangerous.
Do any spells block sunlight?Asking for a Vampire friend... Definitely not Strahd
>>46143869
Darkness + Devil's Sight. Or, if you're a shadow Sorcerer, Darkness + Eyes of the Dark.
>>46143886
Would Fog Cloud work?
>>46143886
>shadow Sorcerer
>ever
Really hankering for more Warlock stuff, and this looked like it'd fit the bill.
Anyone have the pdf?
>>46143869
Control Weather and make it overcast?
>>46143869
>>46143886
Darkness is dispelled by light creating spells of 3rd or higher level, like Sunlight and Dayburst.
You'll want to go all out and get Hunger of Hadar. No light spells can dispel it, nothing can illuminate inside it.
>>46142650
Back in the days of 4e I downloaded what I thought was a scan of Divine Power and it was a bunch of nun porn with the first page being the book cover so it previewed correctly.
>>46141127
Glyph of Warding.
What are hobgoblins like to fight.
Could a level 1 party deal with one if it was backed up by a couple of goblins?
>>46143926
I'm thinking of perhaps items that create sunlight where control weather wouldn't work.
>>46143929
Nothing can see inside Hunger of Hadar either, even with Devil's Sight. It's described as "blackness," not darkness, and all creatures inside it are blinded as well. On top of that, Hunger of Hadar is a damage AoE. You're trolling, right?
>>46143947
Just one Hobgob? Yeah, easily. It may have 18 AC with the chain mail, but with a lowly 11 HP, a magic missile or two can kill it. Actually, I'm gonna say that a magic missile is enough for the wizard to solo it, with favorable enough rolls.
>>46144054
Not trolling, actually.
2d6 + 2d6 (save for none) is better than 20 automatic per turn + regen disabled, right?
>>46143748
...The 2e sourcebook?
>>46143929
I'm pretty sure that Darkness can overpower Daylight if cast at a higher level than it.
>>46141127
Alright, I want to be a healslut, but I don't want to be a cleric or paladin, what are some decent non-divine healer builds? So far Druid and Bard look promising
>>46144061
I was thinking of having the pics hired to deal with a strangely well organised tribe of goblins.
The hobgoblin turns out to have been sent to destabilise the area before the legion arrives.
Maybe they could fight four or so goblins before once they've won the hobgoblin comes to investigate with his two goblin bodyguards, the pcs are a little bit worn out but can still probably win.
>>46144226
Bard is quite efficient at it.
You also get to poach all the most bullshit spells like Contagion and Wish.
>>46144226
Bard. Druid lacks some of the better spells and a bard can steal them.
>>46144198
Wait, nevermind. I checked & they it doesn't actually scale. A smoking bottle should work, though, as it technically isn't magical darkness, but just an obscuring smokescreen.
>>46144281
As should Fog Cloud, and I have yet to see anyone prepare Gust of Wind.
>>46144234
Pcs, not picks, typing on a phone, fuck autocorrect
>>46141267
Probably not everything, but I saved some links poster before.
>First 20 pages
https://mega.nz/#F!4hxnmbbC!b4VJCYBTKvNN4FJ1zQU2uQ
>Chapter 4
https://mega.nz/#!TgJQgZwa!OZw13Eb6BLAtQJ-SaRd18CgSTUHH6m-FsFwDwajEYBo
As for the rest...
COS SCAN WHEN
>>46144234
Yeah, that seems fair. At such low levels, the attack rolls have a major impact. I mean, a regular goblin is likely to die in one hit if that hit lands. The same goes for the players if they are subjected to the hobgoblin's Martial Advantage. It might down someone, but if they play their cards right, it shouldn't be too dangerous.
>>46144179
Yeah, I've been looking at less frequently fanboyed older settings for inspiration (ok, to steal shit from) and was just curious if anyone still had an opinion on any of them.
>>46144061
you are going to knock out a non-barbarian with martial advantage
>>46144369
I know next to nothing about 2e, but I have a bit of knowledge on 3.0 and 3.5.
I do know that 2e had blackballs, one of the greatest monsters ever invented.
http://www.lomion.de/cmm/blacball.php
>living sphere of fucking annihilation
>>46144259
Honestly the most interesting part of bard as a healslut is the song of rest which is a pretty great post fight healing boost.
Combined with Healing Word (which is great as Bard doesn't have a lot of bonus actions) and Lesser Restoration and you're pretty much set. The only disappointment imo is the fact that they get Mass Cure instead of Mass Healing Word.
Also Bard gets 3/4 of the Druid's special spells plus some of their own uniques.
>>46144226
If your reasoning is lore rather than mechanics, might I suggest a cleric to something evil like Lolth. Lolth is technically also a demon lord, so that could be considered a demonic healer, kinda.
Druid has better potential as a tank. You could be some kinda tanky, healing bear. Bard has more versatility, though.
>>46144403
Yeah, b/c pronouns, I thought the gobs were helping the party at first. But one or two KOs shouldn't cause a party wipe, at least not if they're properly prepared. Plus, it does have to HIT with that attack.
>>46144428
Bards can steal Aura of Vitality from paladins (as early as 6th level for lore bards), which lets you heal 2d6 hit points to a creature as a bonus action for 1 minute. Out of combat that 's 20d6 healing for a 3rd-level slot.
>>46144563
That's actually retarded.
>>46144169
Nothing can see inside Hunger of Hadar. It doesn't matter if you have Devil's Sight; it's not Darkness.
>>46143780
If they take the trapdoor to the wolf's den (which they should) there is only like 2 doors they need to go through.
>>46144698
To elaborate:
If you have a way of acquiring tremorsense or blindsense you can, but even truesight won't work.
I have an idea for a character, but I'm not sure how it would work. I want to play a Pact of the Chain Great Old Ones Warlock, eventually multiclassing into War Cleric, but here's the catch: He's blind.
Now, I figured I'd stat this by just having him be permanently afflicted by the Blind status (disadvantage to hit and enemies have advantage to hit me), and have him use his familiar as a sort of seeing eye dog, perceiving through its senses using Voice of the Chain Master, suffering the full effects of Blindness once the familiar is gone.
But, I have to wonder, how would this affect spells that say "target an area within X number of feet that you can see?" Would my warlock just not be able to cast such spells? Should enemies still have advantage to hit me because of Blindness even when I'm seeing through the eyes of my familiar?
>>46144710
Yeah exactly. They can just ditch the slow mound and book it to the door at lv 1, no probelmo.
Do all the doors even turn evil or only the front entrance?
>>46144839
Other blind creatures develop blindsense. I think blindsense 30 feet (blind beyond that radius) for you works, and then once you have Voice of the Chain master you can see through its eyes.
just getting into 5e, i've always liked the "tricks-up-the-sleeves" archetypes, like arcane trickster in 3.5. What should I look into? it seems like warlock doesn't have intelligence as a core attribute anymore.
>>46141401
>CoS is the time to be spooked by badass horror creatures
If you can find a DM that's actually capable of making their game anything even close to spooky horror, you hold on to them. You hold on to them and you never let go.
The closest any DM I've ever had has gotten to horror is the horrible B movies that turn out to be hilarious because they're trying so damn hard to be scary.
>>46141772
"Oh god, he's retreating right at us!"
>>46144961
>DM is running WHFRP 2E
>We're in a house horror, furniture comes alive and attacks us.
>Run around attacking the stove while singing "COME ON BABY LIGHT MY FIRE"
>>46144978
Nothing scarier than a scared Fighter.
>>46144931
You mean someone who always has a way to get out of a bad situation?
Wizard. You can do all kinds of bullshit to escape everything. Misty step, dimension door, shield, clone, contingency, glyph of warding, Drawmij's instant summons... you can turn yourself into a videogame character, basically.
>>46144931
The Arcane Trickster is a Rogue sub-class now. If it doesn't float your boat for whatever reason you'd likely have to settle for Wizard or Bard.
Has anyone tried modding 5e to accomodate different types of fantasy games? How did it go? I'm trying to fix it up to run Lord of the Rings style fantasy, with just a touch more common spellcasters. It's been a bitch though.
is magic initiate worthwhile for spellcasters? What about gishes?
>>46145053
i'm not sure what level the game is going to be at, might end up going with bard or rogue. will have to figure things out carefully, check out the bards spells and class abilities as well as the party composition. it's cool that bards get 9th level spells now
>>46145074
lord of the rings is coming out with a 5e suppliment
I'd like to adapt some pre-written adventures for post level 10 shenanigans, any tips on how to do this? Simply swap out monsters etc? I'm currently looking at Out of the Abyss.
>>46145053
Arcane trickster is "mage hand" the class,though.
If they didn't have less spells known than a sorcerer and only choose from 2 schools they might be better, but I just think they're rubbish. Might as well just take magic initiate for a scag cantrip of your choice and minor illusion.
>>46145085
most spellcasters probably not.
Gishes get some pretty nice bonuses out of them, though. Paladin and rangers get access to having cantrips at all, which is nice.
>>46145085
It gets you cantrips that might be outside of your normal pool. For certain casters, that can be a huge help but perhaps not worth the Feat. I think it can be great for non-casters because they don't have anything better to concentrate on; they can pick up Bless or something.
>>46143947
Yes, especially if you remember that goblins might be under the hobgoblin's command, but they will suck at following its orders. That could actually help make the encounter less boring, just have the hobgoblin act like a long-suffering commander who's in charge of a squad of complete idiots. He'll be constantly shouting commands based on sound strategy, and all the goblins just either ignore him or misunderstand his orders.
Could turn a boring old "kill these bags of meat" encounter into something pretty fun and entertaining. Throw more goblins than you normally would if you do this, though, to account for how easy it'll be to deal with them when they're played as incompetent.
>>46145178
I hear Hex Monks are brutal.
>>46145143
I know. That's what made me want to make my own. It's a hobby.
>>46141675
That fact that a scan fit in 814kb gave it away.
>>46144250
>>46144259
Bard it is then.
Should I bother at all with combat skills, or should I have to rely on others to stay alive?
>>46145074
I've tried modding it with a certain high fantasy setting, but I can't say more without breaking a certain global rule related to a children's cartoon.
The internet is your friend. There will always be someone more obsessed who's already done a lot of the heavy lifting for you.
>>46145206
I never really thought of that. That sounds dangerous, though. I mean, an extra 1d6 on each of a Flurry of Blows is quite a bit.
>>46145245
Consider a decent Con and Dex, but go Lore and play a full spellcaster.
Grab Eldritch Blast, it's the best cantrip in the game.
>>46145178
Mage Armor Barbarian?
>>46145332
Well, by level 5 they can hit 4 times in one turn, each hit doing either 1d6 or 1d8. Add an extra 1d6 on each hit and it's going to hurt.
Might even be worth a Warlock dip to cast it every short rest.
>>46145406
Won't work. Both set your AC at something--Mage Armor at 13 + Dex, Unarmored Defense at 10 + Dex + Con.
Anyone here playing Dex Paladins? How has it gone? What feats have you gotten? Currently playing an Urchin Tiefling Oath of Vegeance Paladin.
>>46145406
Why? You know Unarmed Defense and Mage Armor don't stack, right? They're each a separate calculation method, it's "13+Dex," or "10+Dex.+Con.", not "13+Dex.+Con."
Do you folks think Warlocks should be able to replace invocations? If so, what should the limits for this be?
>>46141254
whats your name at the discord server, oh pdf anon?
>>46141844
I call it the ''Yo moma spell''
>>46145459
They can, RAW.
One replacement per level.
I think that's a good, balanced rule.
>>46145406
Bless Wolf Totem Barbarian. Every melee-bro's best friend.
>>46145455
Dex paladins can be fantastic if you wear medium armor and take the Medium Armor Master feat.
Variant humans that start with it can have 20 AC at level 1.
>>46145484
It's literally the only way to get the Pact specific invocations at the same level you get your Pact, actually, since you get invocations at 2 and 5, but your Pact at 3.
>>46145455
Always tempting to take Shield Monkey if you're a frontline dude with a one handed weapon. Knock a fool down, smite smite smite.
>>46141155
I think my Sorcerer uses Gaseous Form almost every session.
Also having two casters with Message is an awful AWFUL experience.
(it was awesome)
>>46145529
That sounds pretty broken but I'm going full dex.
>>46145542
That sounds pretty sweet, but my character is like a sneaky type that uses a rapier and a buckler. Does it make sense for my character to knock people down?
>>46141254
How do we get the other sheets?
>>46145590
>but my character is like a sneaky type that uses a rapier and a buckler. Does it make sense for my character to knock people down?
Remember the opening to Captain America: Winter Soldier where he's sneaking along the ship and knocking dudes down left and right?
>>46145614
You might read the OP.
>>46145614
There's a Mega link in the OP
>>46145614
The mega at the bottom of the OP.
>>46145421
how would a single level dip in warlock and rouge go for a shadow monk at 7th level?
something like 6d6 on the first turn and then flurry next for 12d6?
>>46145590
What's more stereotypically underhanded than kicking a man when he's down?
>>46145647
>>46145655
Oh silly me, thank you!
>>46145680
explain your logic to me. I think you might be misinterpreting a part.
>All martial party
>Unused NPC spell slots can be recovered from their corpses
What am I in for here?
Sweet titties, Blood Hunter is bloated as fuck. I am making a reference sheet for anon, and I am just through the base class features, and the page is 2/3 filled. Going to try shrinking the font a point or two, otherwise this bloated fuckery might need to be a two-pager.
>>46145460
I don't use it, sorry.
>>46145590
>but I'm going full dex.
Yes, and? The build I presented is full Dex, and it's probably the best way to do it, too.
>>46141127
>Describe your ideal spellbook looks.
In my next campaign, I'm going to be creating a diviner wizard who finds a very old treatise of planes magic, and will then multiclass into warlock through the secrets inside.
It's going to be annotated by many different owners, with notes scribbled in the margins offering corrections. As he levels up, he'll uncover more and more secrets buried in the text, whether written in dead languages, in code, or even magically hidden
>mfw BBEG meets pissed Yog-Sothoth
>>46145680
>rouge
every time
>>46141127
>Describe your ideal spellbook looks.
a pop up book
>>46145961
>a pop up book
MY TOONS!
>>46145680
1 level rogue= 1d6 sneak attack
1 level warlock= hex
5 levels of monk= 1d6 martial arts, and extra attack
First turn
>cast hex as a bonus action
>have advantage, or an ally within 5ft of the enemy
>hit someone with a short-sword
>1d6 sword, 1d6 hex, 1d6 sneak attack
>do it again
>3d6
>total turn damage=6d6 at level 7
I just realized sneak attack wouldn't work with flurry of blows because unarmed strike isn't finesse, so nevermind that next turn bit, though.
it would would only be an extra 1d6 on your normal attacks if you used a shortsword, which would be 10d6 instead of 12d6.
Granted, it would be insanely easy to gain advantage for that sneak attack with open palm making them prone if they fail a dex save, and hex giving disadvantage to dexterity.or does that not work with saves? hex specifically says check, not sure how that works.
>>46145858
Yeah, the only way I can pull this off is to have a separate page for each archetype. Sorry if that is inconvenient, anon.Mercer's pdf has a surprising amount of formatting, grammatical, and spelling errors for something so highly rated/downloaded. I guess that's a perk of being famous.
>>46144353
>As for the rest...
>COS SCAN WHEN
this. those cut off at the best part.
but thanks anon.
>>46146041
meant to quote >>46145758
>>46145912
I really hate doing that.
>>46146042
A page for each archetype is fine, if not preferred. I'm just stoked that you're doing the sheet at all.
>>46146041
You can only sneak attack once a turn.
>>46146041
Sneak attack is once per turn - one of the major reasons Rogue's don't get an Extra Attack base
>>46146100
Yeah, the Sneak Attack being only once per turn is what I wasn't sure if you had noticed. Personally, I'd stay out of rogue. And then, one level of warlock grants you 2 cantrips and 1 spell slot. Meanwhile, you could just by one level away from Monk 8, which grants a Feat you could use on Magic Initiate for more-or-less the same effect as warlock while also working up the Monk ladder yet further.
>>46141127
Is that Moebius? Patrician taste, anon.
>>46146210
>>46146205
>>46146180
Ah, yeah.
My bad.
>>46146210
>>46146041
If he's considering a warlock dip as shadow monk, he should really go for two-three levels. If only for the Devil's Sight. Seeing in magical darkness is a tough feat to pull off otherwise and is basically free invisibility and perma-advantage. Albeit one that inconviences the party at times.
Remember that Shadow Arts let monk cast Darkness with 2 ki.
>>46146319
Now this I can agree with. Devil's Sight is a wonderful thing.
Does anyone have CoS or the picutre of the effects of the mist?
I remember its a con check(or save?) or gain a level of exhaustion, but i cant remember the DC (20?)
>>46145074
I'd probably double the XP requirements for all characters, so it takes longer for them to level; remove all magic items completely, save for a small number of legendary (not the rarity, but the lore-wise legendary, a la the Rings of Power). Keep in mind this idea: Gandalf is a level 5 cleric for most of the series of books and movies. Sauron is a level 8-10 wizard. Saruman is a level 6-7 cleric.
>>46146565
DC 20 Con Save of each character that begins their turn in the fog
>>46141127
Does prestidigitation count?
Also a good mix of small but fun tricks, maybe a ritual per level, and as few spells as possible with M components in case I ever lose my focus.
>>46146622
thank you muchly
>>46146319
Three levels gives him Book of Ancient Secrets, one of the all-around best utility features in the game.
>>46145335
Can a Bard take Eldritch Blast?
>>46146862
fuck, the blood hunter reference text isn't showing up again. wtf illustrator.
>>46146862
>What the actual fuck was Mercer thinking with this class?
He was basically drawing from The Witcher and the old Witch Hunter class from Arcanum and trying to get them to fit in the same base class.
>>46146862
goddamn dude, you're a real human being, and a real hero.
>>46146932
>>46146905
fixed version
>>46146862
404: file not found. ):
>>46147002
>fixed
er.
The second character sheet is also marked as order of ghostslayer instead of profane soul.
>>46147002
I'm having issues finding the source material of this homebrew in the links posted in the thread title.
>>46147136
http://www.dmsguild.com/product/170777/Blood-Hunter-Class
Pay what you wantwhich could be $0.00
>>46147093
fucking hell. I fixed it, grab it off the mega, dont feel like shitting up the thread with two word fixes. it's in the special one off folder.
>>46147136
The Blood Hunter is homebrew from the DMsguild.
>>46147170
Thanks anon, this will be very helpful. Here's hoping I don't die before we even get out of Death House
Anon that wanted the UA Spell-free Ranger: Any special archetype name you wanted to call it? Right now it's going to be "Martial Ranger" unless you provide otherwise.
Not trying to be a dick, but madbeards fillable form sheet seems way better than the /tg/ one if you're going to be keeping an online sheet.
>>46147363
Wait, maybe I need to read through this UA more carefully. Are these meant to be a new archetype, or changes to the base class?
>>46147443
madbeards?
And explain your reasoning behind that.
>>46147448
They're changes to the base class; it's a variant of the standard ranger.
>>46147002
>>46147170
After looking over the Blood Hunter homebrew, I think it would be utterly perfect for a Bloodborne inspired campaign.
>>46147631
Can't possibly imagine why.
>>46147631
Class literally named blood hunter would be good for bloodborne? say it isn't so!
>>46147363
Not the same anon, but I'll suggest Unearthed Ranger.
Here you go anon, wherever you are. also in the mega.
>>46147561
it's been a long day
>>46147778
fuck me, without fail. mislabeled ability, fixed version on mega.
>>46147841
Take it slower man. There's no real impetus or time frame that you need to get these done in. We're not gonna march on Capital Hill if CharSheetAnon doesn't deliver at least three unique sheets per day.
I just kicked one of my players, guys. It's been a long time in coming, but it still feels like shit, because he used to be alright.
Feels bad, man. Feels real bad.
>>46147965
What happened?
>>46147965
tell mommy all about it, anon. what did the bad man do to you?
>>46147897
I will.
>>46147973
He's become an acerbic dick who can't give a rats ass about the game, and insults everyone by telling them their ideas are bad. Didn't used to be like that, last year. Maybe something bad happened, I dunno, but he won't respond when I ask.
Just feel kind of bad about it, because he was my friend, at one point.
>>46147965
Don't kick people. Violence should never be the solution.
>>46148072
what was the final straw?
So I'm planning on creating a semi-antagonist for my campaign, and I was thinking of a king, I was planning on making him an Alexander the Great/ Julius Caesar style military genius.
What kind of class should I give him, I'm not planning on having him do much fighting himself but it's good to have these things ready.
I was thinking Battlemaster but that's still fighter and I didn't plan on him being very strong or fast.
>>46147965
Not 5e, but I let an entire group go today due to being boring as fuck.
It's never easy, anon. Pour yourself a drink and start again tomorrow.
>>46148165
Mastermind.
>>46148148
I asked him to relay what happened in the previous session while I got everything set up; he said, and I quote, "Stuff."
I asked him to give a little more, and he just went, "Well, that's all you're going to get," in a voice that really said, "Go fuck yourself."
It's been a long time coming, I've just been putting it off.
>>46148165
Go with Captain.
>>46148165
Either Mastermind or Purple Dragon Knight probably.
>>46148165
> PC levels on NPCs
> Ever
I'm about to run OotA with a relatively new group after we finish LMoP tomorrow.
They're about to enter Wave Echo Cave so my plan is to drop some threads leading to the Underdark through the Black Spider. Make it so that he has reason to believe that demons are going to wreck everyone's shit so he went out looking for magical artifacts and happened upon the Forge of Spells.
The map in the Wizards' Quarters is also going to be a reference to the Dawnbringer.
Once that's all wrapped up I'm getting them to roll new characters for the prisonbreak segment of OotA. If any of them die or decide they want their old character back I plan on having it so that members of the old party followed that map into the Underdark and somehow join up with the new characters.
I'm a new DM, so I just wanted to get opinions on whether trying to link campaigns like this was a good idea. As well as on the fact that I'm making them abandon their characters (if only temporarily).
>Build a flavorful encounter
>Wizard bypasses it with a save-or-suck I forgot about
>dock their xp for the battle since all they did was gang rape a cripple
Hold Person warps dungeons
>>46148395
Nah m8, you're shite
>>46148395
>fuck up
>punish player for it
worst kind of GM
>>46148446
>punishing a player for awarding XP based on the difficulty of the encounter rather than what a silly number in a silly book says
I bet you don't boost xp when you give the enemy terrain advantages. Faggot.
>>46148395
If you're gonna punish your players like that for being smart why didn't you just DM fiat it and say he saved?
>>46148395
My DM forbids another character with a Ring of Spell Storing from giving it to me because he's afraid I'll use it for Banishment in his outsider-based campaign.I want it for Spirit Guardians.
>>46148481
Do you treat Shadows as CR 1/2 if the party has only mundane damage?
>>46148395
> dungeons
> the flavorful encounters can be bypassed by Hold Person.
> Shameful anon
> Where are the traps and hazards?
>>46148495
You know... you can cast spells into it without being attuned.
If your DM is REALLY worried about Banishment, just suggest that there is a rune etched into the metal that prevents Banishment from being cast into it.
>>46148541
>Where are the traps and hazards?
I use mid combat puzzles instead. Traps are just a resource tax or a time waster in my opinion.
Exceptions include party splitting pit traps into encounters.
Can we talk about the PHB Ranger please? I started playing D&D for the first time a few months ago now and I'm still playing the same character in the same campaign.
I'm a ranger and my DM convinced me to choose the Beastmaster archetype because he thinks its really neat. Now that I'm level 7 and have a better footing on the mechanics of the game, I realize that my character is terribly underpowered and boring. My DM lets me roll my animal companion into initiative and control it myself, but still its just a dog that does a 1d6 bite - not very fun or engaging. I read through the Hunter archetype and after giving it thought I wonder why the fuck WotC didn't combine those archetypes.
My DM is pretty moody lately and upset that we're handling ourselves competently as a party - we have a sorceress who quickens spells and converts spell points into slots so she ends up pretty powerful and we have a barbarian who ended up with a grick head for a hand which has him unleashing ridiculous DPR. Furthermore, I think he's projecting his personal enviousness towards me onto my character. With this in mind, I don't think that proposing amalgamating the archetypes to him would go over well.
However, doing some browsing, I found that there was a variant Ranger released by WotC that makes the class a lot more playable for me and sounds pretty damn great. However, they only designed the first 5 levels and I have no idea if there was any official progress released. My DM is permitting me to go through with converting my ranger to this variant ranger but I guess we would have to homebrew levels 6-20, but it would be nice if there was an official complete class tree.
TL;DR: Unearthed Arcana Variant Ranger - Has WotC released levels 6-20?
>>46148591
Yeah, I don't do traps any more. I just have horrible situations that the party has to solve.
>>46148481
>>46148419
>>46148446
>taking hold person and using it on a target
>smart
>rewarding
>fun
it isn't like we're a month into 3.5 where people have to figure this stuff out senpai
>>46148591
Yes that's exactly the point. You potentially kill intruders with low risk of injury to yourself. Traps exist specifically to be a resource tax because taxing resources is the rules as written resort to wizards. Bonus points if the money used to build the trap comes out of the final treasure reward.
>>46148395
>my players outsmarted me
>I punish them for it
You are a terrible DM.
Consider resigning.
>>46148698
they've actually released two variants on the Ranger. Check out 'Class Design Variants' for a well-balanced lv 1-20 ranger without spellcasting but that uses magical potions and can call animals to aid them in battle.
The other Ranger variant, that one you're talking about, is from 'Ranger Options' and its pure shit. Ambuscade is completely broken and will ruin games.
>>46148698
Oh, god. That ranger is so OP...you're better off going with spell-less ranger from Unearthed Arcana.
>>46148804
Beat me to it.
>>46148795
>>my players outsmarted me
>>I punish them for it
>You are a terrible DM.
>Consider resigning.
DM vs Player Mentality get out.
They got through an encounter with only expending one spell and taking one hit (it's initiative beat the wizards), which means I can stack monsters later in the dungeon.
>>46148782
>Yes that's exactly the point. You potentially kill intruders with low risk of injury to yourself. Traps exist specifically to be a resource tax because taxing resources is the rules as written resort to wizards. Bonus points if the money used to build the trap comes out of the final treasure reward.
Only applies if the dungeon is a purpose built dungeon and not just a place where monsters live and even then, you have to answer "but is this fun for the players?"
>>46148782
You sound like a pretty shit person to play with.
>>46148804
>>46148813
Not same anon, but why specifically is ambuscade broken?
is it the 2d6 HD?
cause that's a fucking lot for a ranger.
>>46148804
Aw, I really liked the flavor of the Ranger Options. If it could work mechanically, it would totally fit what I've been envisioning.
>>46149019
That, also, is broken, and very, very stupid.
>>46148889
>>46148855
>but is this fun for the players?
this is a game and the purpose is to be a game. i'm pretty sure everyone knows traps exist. i'm pretty sure most people know hold person/grease/sleep etc are overpowered in encounters with sub 11 int humanoids. is it actually fun to win at everything forever with one action?
if everything went as expected all the time there would be no stories. in order to simulate a bayesian world you need true::false and false::true conditions in addition to the true::true and false::false. if you don't have situations where hold person isn't the optimal choice then you don't have a game at all.
>only applies if the dungeon is a purpose built dungeon
you can have plenty of resource taxing with hazardous environments and terrain of all types. and some don't. the fact that some don't and some do is what makes them intellectually interesting.
>Went on hiatus as group half-disbanded because of scheduling issues
>Only 3 left other than me that want to play
>Trying to make new setting while waiting to recruit last one or two for our usual number of players
>"Hey so what races you guys wanna see? You like these?"
>"Yeah, whatever's fine."
I'm stuck. I can't make any progress because I can't get any input from them. How can I squeeze it out of them?
>>46149019
It's not broken, it brings the Ranger's damage up to other 1/2 casters. The other anons are just complaining.
>>46149019
Well it acts as free surprise for the user, which is normally very difficult to get. Combined with three levels of Assassin and it doubles the amount of surprise attacks.
>>46149111
>Only 3 left other than me that want to play
>Only 3
>Only
>>46149108
This is really beside the point that winning an encounter in one turn means for the party it wasn't a level equivalent CR and thus not deserving of that degree of XP
>>46149111
Nice trips.
My advice would be to sit down with one of them with whatever icebreaker you have (maybe you're on a drive, maybe you have a drink together, I don't know how NTs bond) and talk D&D with them. Talk worldbuilding, see what they want, and try to provide it in the campaign setting.
Repeat with the other people.
>>46149111
If they lack vision, just use your own
>>46149019
>>46149114
Ambuscade gives the character a free non-surprise round at to either Attack or Hide at the start of every encounter. So if you have surprise already on an opponent you get two free chances to attack before they can even react. If not, it doesn't matter, just use your free round to attack instead, it's effectively surprise anyhow. This incredibly, unbelievably, stupidly broken. It's dndwiki-level shit. If some shit anon had published it instead of wotc it would rightfully mocked.
Even worse though is that it's a level 1 ability, meaning every character will multi-class into that Ranger variant if they have the chance to. It's that good.
It's literally "game breaking."
>>46149173
What exactly was the creature(s) they fought? How did they win exactly? If it was by a single spell as you indicated, what was the chance of the creature succeeding?
>>46149172
We went from a total of 11 with a sub-DM to just me and those three, because two are my roommates.
The group dynamic took a pretty crippling hit from that. They all got used to minimal input so as to not overshadow anybody else.
>>46149282
>10 players
Fuck me, dude.
>party learned tonight we have to transport a powerful chalice to Elminster himself for safe keeping
>one problem, the chalice is wanted by Umberlee, Shar, Bane, and Myrkul
>there are 4 evil gods who want us to fail in our quest so they can have the chalice for themselves
>to the point where they are using shadow weaving to destroy the sea travel we were planning
on a scale of 1 to 10 how fucked are we
>>46149254
>dndwiki-level
New insult acquired
>>46149282
Holy shit, how do you even play with that many people? It sounds like it'd just devolve into a giant clusterfuck.
>>46141254
Good work Charsheetanon!
What will he make next? nobody knows!
>>46149114
>other anons
I mean, I've been hearing about ambuscade since the thing came out, it can't just be everyone else that thinks it's op but not really.
>>46149254
>>46149164
Ah. I see. Thanks, anons.
If it weren't for my DM being dumb and never using surprise and being an absolute cockgoblin and sometimes just straight up not doing initiative, I might actually try to run one and then multiclass at 6 (since it ends at 5, yeah?), just to destroy the obviously retarded shit he keeps throwing at the party.
>>46149306
9. You're just below pissing off Pun-Pun himself.
>>46149173
my larger point is that if the only challenge is an encounter and the encounter is easy then you might as well reduce the xp because the players aren't doing anything. if you make a dungeon with traps and lots of encounters and suddenly there is greater decision making in when/if to use hold person then reaching the situation where hold person is optimal and overly good still deserves the full xp because it was balanced with all the opportunities wherewith it was not. and the rest of the argument is that the "pointless" encounters and traps exist specifically to do that and should be used. why would anyone not come to this conclusion with the two dozen monsters that are "indistinguishable" from normal items?
>>46149257
Ignoring the set up to the fight, it was statted as a CR 5 Gladiator for a party of four wounded level 4's, but I let them roll stats and they all got at least one 17, so at level 4 he had 20 int to hold person. and let the assassin, fighter, and monk gang rape it as it missed one turn.
Now, the wizard is my best friend and a rules lawyer by heart, so I believed him when he said restrained means advantage and hits are crits. I'm going to be a little butt rustled if you tell me that's not true.
>>46149292
>>46149313
Strict rules for how people approach combat, sub-DM to help crunch abilities, move tokens, and get people's attention.
And a hell of a lot of patience.
Also benefited that all but one really loved to roleplay more than anything else, so when I needed to handle shit they'd just get into in-character banter. The only real challenge was wrangling them back onto me once that happened.
>>46149327
I mean, after that post he made spell-less ranger and blood hunter, so he's probably open to other UA stuff.
I'd actually like to see a favored soul sheet, but since it intersects with cleric kind of but not really I'd imagine it would range from annoying to absolutely infuriating to write down unless you did a sheet modification (front page or spells) for each cleric spell school in which case that sounds tedious and just simply awful.
>>46149359
There is never a situation where you are against a lone humanoid of challenging skill and Hold Person is not the correct choice.
>>46149331
To top it off, be an Aarakocra for the 50 ft fly speed. Grab Expertise in Perception and the Observant feat to get your passive Perception to ridiculous levels so his opponents cannot hide from him and watch as your character is able to actually ambush his ambushers >:)
Anyone have the other plot hooks from CoS?
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