What do you think about this series?
Was Japan right in slaugghtering thousands of imperial soldiers that were forced to fight? To massacre people without giving them the possibility of surrender?
What would your country do If the portal opened in it?
Any other good modern vs Fantasy media?
>>46120973
gate was nationalist propaganda garbage
>>46121003
That, because Japan, was also a harem thing.
GodDAMMIT Japan.
>>46120973
Terrible JSDF-Wankfest, it got so bad I had to drop it.
>>46121064
it had potentcial, but then it became a incredibly odbious "me so best" nationalist masturbation porn
someone has that one page with the they are blacks so they are american thing?
>>46120973
>Any other good modern vs Fantasy media?
If you want I can tell you bad media. Russian trash lit
>>46121125
>>46120973
Outbreak Company is pretty much a better and more enjoysble version of Gate, though it focuses on cultural exportstion than military supremacy. The original LN also does the occasional critique over potential creative sterility in said cultute.
>>46120973
>Gate
>Good
It's a humanity, fuck yeah! story, but instead of humans it's japanese. Plus, it's a fucking harem manga so it cannot be good even if everything else was fixed.
If Japanese, fuck yeah! is your thing, at least go for Drifters.
>>46121064
>>46121119
This basically.
Too much "JSDF is great, America is literally retarded" wanking, too much haremshit, not enough cool modern army adventures in fantasyland.
>>46120973
Splendid pitch, opportunities for an innovative story and character relationships, wasted by nationalist wankery and shonen clichés. It could have been so good ;_;
When they introduced a gothic lolita berzerker with a 3m tall anime axe, I realized that it wasn't a comic for me.
Provided a few hilarious sentences like "Only America uses black SF operatives !", though.
Some people have recommended the manga Drifters for those left down by Gate. Can't confirm nor deny its quality.
And a short comic about a modern/fantasy encounter :
http://english.bouletcorp.com/2009/04/24/war-of-the-worlds/
>>46121285
By the way, that picture isn't fantasy vs modern. It accurately portrays the killing power of the samurai and their deadly katanas.
>>46121285
>Provided a few hilarious sentences
"Ramirez, don't just shoot blindly!"
>>46121281
Most stuff from the US is: America best, everyone else retarded.
So it's kinda refreshing, as far as nationalistc wankfests can be.
>>46121411
Half of it is. The other half is: America a shit, we are the demons
>>46121411
Nah, if this was an American story they'd most likely just pretend the rest of the world didn't exist.
They usually don't go out of their way to make the rest of the world look like a bunch of malign incompetents. Certainly not to the extent that GATE does.
>>46121496
If anything, they'd make the US military look like incompetent shits, while the enemy forces are organized killing machines. The only useful americans would be the renegade badass who doesn't play by the rules
BTW, if japan refused to give other countries access to the gate like they did in the book, who do you think would nuke them first ?
Failing that, would it devolve into ww3 or would the UN security council set aside their differences for once and take a resolution to quarantine the zone ?
>>46121411
As much as I loathe the american cultural hegemony, at least they have the merit of not making it detrimental to the story most of the time.
Gate just hammers it, again and again, to the point that it doesn't even make sense anymore. It's North Korea-tier propaganda.
>>46121604
>who do you think would nuke them first
What the fuck kind of question is this? Nobody, you asshole. Having nukes is all about the threat, anybody who actually pulls the trigger is the first one to be retaliated against too.
Nationalist saber-rattling I could have dealt with. Everybody likes feeling important on a global scale. Hell I could stand the fucking harem shit too!
But both of those things together plus the MC doesn't even make a move on any of the girls he's around? That's too much. Too far.
>>46120973
>Modern vs Fantasy
Try Salvation War. Cool premise is 'hell invades Earth, time to go to hell and kill all the demons'. Becomes war is hell and modern weapons superior story later on though. Terrible execution.
>>46121166
>Outbreak Company
>critique over potential creative sterility
The irony was lost on it, however. As was the point of parodying all those harem cliches.
The manga is good military porn with monstergirls dumping their big hooters out. Japanese nationalism rules.
The anime is fucking limp-wristed garbage.
Is the harem part of Gate so annoying? At least in the anime, couldn't care less about the manga.
>>46121691
The first book is decent. The second one was an atrocity.
>>46120973
>What would your country do If the portal opened in it?
gangbang it with the USA because we're friends with benefits
alternatively FUCKING RIFTS
BECAUSE RIFTS
>>46121219
This. Drifters is still Japan-wank but at least it is good.
>>46120973
>What would your country do If the portal opened in it?
Invade it, and there be a hundred times worse than Japan, not tell about what goes on the other side until forced to, and probably enslave half of the fantasy people.mfw my nation is one of the good guys.
The only good thing to come out of these threads is the conversation how a GATE anime/manga where it's an international team of flagrant foreign stereotypes led by the Japanese cast would have been infinitely better than what we got.
I want my Not!Guile smuggling in fireworks and barbaque, dammit.
>>46121633
>>46121604
Considering JSDF was made to stand against an invading army (russians) the serious powers would feel bad at expending lives of their man to try to conquer head on the country. Considering the effect of a nuclear device on nippon moral.
As for "retaliated" USA regulary invades other countries giving lame excuse to U.N. and get away with it. As long as the other 3-4 players are ok with you nuking japan (you promise them a portion of the gate) you can Nuke it as much as you like.
>>46121633
>japan
>nuclear retaliation
Anyways, do you think having everyone not doing anything (apart from SF scouting parties) after one country suddently got access to a dimensional portal to another world (with an entire planet worth of ressources, and fucking magic) is less retarded than somebody deciding to get rid of the problem definitely ? Besides, it appears that you didn't read past the first sentence of the post.
>>46121794
Racist inbreds from Texas loving peasants from Hokkaido. How quaint...
>>46121937
The only good thing to come out of these threads is what would happen if the Gate opened in the middle of Cold War era Germany, right on top of the Wall.
>>46121860
>Mapple leaf with skulls.
I actualy like that design. It is mindfucky as a skull with rainbows.
>>46121125
This looks hilarious what is it about ?also google gives nothing is this book even real ?
>>46121907
Russia?
>>46122045
>Good guys
>Russia
m8
We'd totally exploit the shit out of it and not share unless forced to, though.
>>46122045
That Ukrainian woman has very large breasts.
>>46121411
>>46121482
Either that or they at least parody themselves at how PATRIOTIC they are with the Red, White, and Blue; and Bald Eagles flying in the background.
>>46122090
>>46121807
Second book of salvation war is still better than whole of gate for the sole reason that you don't have EVERY single girl lusting for useless otaku cock with one of them even starting to think that he is her father.
>>46121285
>Drifters
That's a good one, MC is insane
>>46121972
I just watched Man from U.N.C.L.E.
Fuck this would be bananas.
It becomes a neutral zone where only few indivudals are allowed to enter. All people who enter are controleld by ruskies and by amercians.
It was made so only scientist and ambassadors could work there but ended with tons of high trained spies (he is send there with nothing and has to build his equip form scratch) that advise/assainate/manipalte various rulers.
It would be awesome.
>>46121604
Japan is pretty much glued to Americas dick when it comes to military matters.
The JSDF is a bunch of weapons geeks who joined to play with cool toys because they know they'll never have to fight.
America would respond through the portal with boots on the ground regardless of what Japan wanted.
>>46122090
She's a woman in the military, sheprobably sucks loads of dick.
>>46121860
Not nearly enough beard for those to be Canadian troops.
>>46122239
She's a woman in the Russian military.
She probably gets raped and tortured every few hours.
>>46122190
Don't forget that you have Jesus and Jean d'Arc fighting for the Nazis.
>>46122263
It takes a special kind of crazy for a woman to join the Russian military, either she enjoys the attention or she's able to keep the wandering handsmostlyaway.
>>46122149
Doesn't she have a kid?
>>46122006
The frog logo is also pretty funky. RIFTS was neat.
>>46122026
The writings say: "Born to crawl - can fly!"
No idea if ti is real as searching the name gave me only a thread of fucked up russian covers
arhivach.org/thread/133571/
>>46122315
I don't see the problem.
I found the ultimate shit fantasy wankery.
"Red Overlord"
Stalin ends in a fantasy realm, creates a comunist country and guides it against other empires.
>>46121285
>When they introduced a gothic lolita berzerker with a 3m tall anime axe, I realized that it wasn't a comic for me.
See this didn't phase me. She was a friggen demigod. I won't be telling a Demigod how to dress.
What was stupid was basically the harem shit and hypernationalism. If America, China, and Russia all want in, you really won't stop them.
>>46122605
If that was done with enough tongue-in-cheek flair, it would be fucking awesome.
Though judging from your post I suspect it's played more or less completely straight, which is just terrible.
Dunno about "modern military in fantasy land", but Zipang is some pretty cool "modern destroyer in World War 2" stuff.
Shame it'll probably never be fully translated.
>>46120973
Are you suggesting...GATE is an allegory of the Manchurian Incident?
I remember an anime scene where a group of undead (featuring a lich) attack a space station, as well as a manga panel where a 'hitler-esque' fellow is said to have carved out a kingdom long ago.
Anyone know what these could be from? It's been bugging me for weeks, and I haven't had any luck identifying either media.
>>46129411
The second one is drifters.
>>46121860
As a Burgerlander, I second this statement entirly. Canadian Millitary might need a little help to reach great heights, but potential is there.
Until then, you bring the Tim Hortons, we bring the McDonalds, and the UN gets the middle east dumpednin it's lap because fuck the rockbox.
If the Empire actually won a battle against the JSDF or just shown as competent once in a while then I'd enjoy it a lot more
But really its essentially
Japan-Goodest guys of all
Everyone-else complete retards
I'm probably going to stop watching because of this whole holier than thou shit with the Japanese
>We don't kill or torture our prisoners
>When we bomb a building we make sure no is near it
>We actually care about the people in the Special Region unlike the US and China who just want its resources
>Its OK to invade another nation when we do it even if it goes against our entire Constitution
>>46131334
>Japan
>doesn't torture prisoners
Pftagahahah
My favorite part of this was when the US special forces, who fucking TRAIN the JSDF special forces, were surprised that the Japanese have SF teams.
>>46121281
>"JSDF is great, America is literally retarded"
Oh, so this shit is realistic? Picked up.
>>46132695
>JSDF
>Anything approaching good
Pick one and only one.I can't even argue with the second point, though
>>46121860
I was actually hoping it would be like Rifts, where each side has advantages and disadvantages when dealing with one another. Not just in military situations either, like the people in the Gate world would be able to do things that is impossible even with modern science and technology. Needless to say, but I was very disappointed by Gate.
If you could bring one thing to the fantasy land (spmething you can carry on your hands)
waht would it be?
>>46135544
A whole bunch of books.
>>46132890
Yeah, that would have been a lot more interesting.
Honestly, I'd rather read about small-scale military conflicts over a majority peace than a full war between modern stuff and fantasy.
Or maybe a mixed adventuring party off to stop a great evil or something. So you've got a Paladin, a Military Engineer, an Elven Mage and an SARS Sniper teaming up to fight a Lich or something.
Ah I see, if theres anything that can be learned from this thread is that, y'all butthurt americans.
Japan will always creates stories with their country's demographic in mind, no matter how intresting the premise was. And I think thats a good thing for them. In the end of the day, who wouldnt love it when their country were potrayed as messiah?
>>46120973
>mfw I wish the days when I didn't understand morality
Also fuck you, the imperial soldiers were hogging all the monster girls. They deserve their deaths.
>>46121411
Except Japanese wankfests are not original or refreshing, they just have less to back it up in the Americans so its more pathetic.
>>46131334
>>46131459
>Japan has never committed horrific war crimes or acts of genocide before
>>46136101
>>And I think thats a good thing for them. In the end of the day, who wouldnt love it when their country were potrayed as messiah?
You know I think we are past the age where people cared for such things. People no longer believe half the propaganda bullcrap that worked in the pre-WW era, because today we have a much wider perspective on the world due to radio, televison and not mention the Internet.
Even back then not everyone was stroking their dick on whatever country's weaponry provided they made it past the age of 14, some will always do of course but they are a specific demographic. Those that actually lost family members in a war, or came back from fighting in a real war, know that war is the definition of hell on Earth and nobody should be subjected to it if that would be even realistically possible.
Also you might be surprised but there are countless people in the world from varying countries who fucking hate their country for whatever reason. Governments run by a bunch of assholes, taxes are high, wages are low, corruption is prevalent you name it. Japan in particular has a fairly large part of the demographic that is fundamentally anti-war.
>>46120973
>What would your country do If the portal opened in it?
Well, probably priests would whine about gate to hell created by satan, then our idiot goverment would destroy it ASAP.
Then similar gates open in other countries, and Poland is at the tail end. Again.
>>46136257
>Also you might be surprised but there are countless people in the world from varying countries who fucking hate their country for whatever reason. Governments run by a bunch of assholes, taxes are high, wages are low, corruption is prevalent you name it. Japan in particular has a fairly large part of the demographic that is fundamentally anti-war.
Then they hate their government, not their country. I doubt there are really many people who genuinely hate their country('s culture, history, landscape, people, everything) and not just the current government.
>>46136902
But the Government IS THE COUNTRY, they decide what is what, if you discard that the rest is just piece of land with people on it. If this wouldn't be so the Europe wouldn't be facing millions of welfare migrants right now.
Isn't the writer of this only a reservist in addition to being a massive Nip Right-wing Otaku?
I mean the JSDF isn't all that impressive to begin with.
>>46120973
I haven't watched it yet, though a lot of my group likes it.
My kneejerk not having seen it reaction is that it's like a worse version of GURPS Infinite Worlds-which has pretty hard limits on how much materiel you can bring with you, forcing people to get more creative than "use close air support/artillery support and go to town". There, the advantage is firmly in the hands of the natives, because they outnumber you about 100,000 to one, and all you've got with you is maybe what you could fit in the back of a truck. Luckily, the people of Infinity can be very clever.
I question the ability of air-to-air missiles to lock on to dragons.
>>46121411
My group tends to view it this way, so they're fine with it.
>>46137293
>tfw you'll never run an IW game and have PCs meet their alternate selves from Centrum, Reich-5, Lizardia or any other funny place to meet alt-selves from.
>>46122006
Tundra Rangers FTW!
I was okay with the nationalism and the jingoism right up until three things happened.
a) Demon-death-loli
b) Harem shit
c) THE FUCKING GIANT DRAGON WITH WINGS CAN SOME HOW FLY AS FAST AS A FUCKING F4 PHANTOM
Like god damn, I can suspend my disbelief for a little bit but jesus.
>>46136101
>Japan will always creates stories with their country's demographic in mind
But...Japanese people don't care about the JSDF, it's considered a joke even to their own people beyond possibly distracting China for a few days.
The secret agents inflitrated in fantasy land sound cool.
"Smith you have to kill the dragon for the king. But you must make it look natural or ruskies will start bullshitting and will have an excuse to spy satelittes on this plan of existence."
>>46138058
What about the whole special forces thing?
>>46138134
Falls under demon-death-loli
Like it pissed me off how the fucking JSDF SF was magically as good/better than the US (which makes no sense considering they have 0 actually combat experience and regularly come to us for training) but I was willing to stomach it because its at least, mildly entertaining.
>>46135922
That would be kick-ass
>>46138185
No comment on the "The special forces squads from the three countries with THE most experience in actual black ops operations forgot their fucking night goggles on a night op." thing?
>>46138250
Well, I think you take a lot of stuff under the 'denyability' aspect of Black Ops.
Honestly, the US team would've likely been a bunch of contracted foreign nationals with a handler who was an actual agent. Even then, the whole objective of the operation is dumb. Force is only needed when you have irrational actors who really only respond to force. With some one like Japan the US has enough political pressure that if it wanted in it could've gotten it. Like damn nigga we have naval and air bases all over Japan and the whole 3rd MEF in fucking Okinawa.
>>46138369
Technically, the treaties signed by Japan and the US would have made Japan into a sockpuppet the moment their land got invaded, didn't matter if the invasion was successful or not, regardless if either nation wanted it or not.
>>46120973
Gate is the definition of wasted potential
>>46120973
The Manga is better than the anime. That being said here are times when it hurts with how naionalistic it is. Probably one of the coolest ideas for a setting though.
>>46138369
YAMATO DAMASHI!
INHERITED SAMURAI BLOOD!
WHITU PIGGU GO HOME! YOU WANT BURGER? HAVE MY CUM INSTEAD!
I used to think to myself that Japan can't be that up its own ass, they can't actually continue to deny that they fucked up huge in the Second World War, that they can't be this xenophobic, but Christ have mercy everything I see that they make just proves me wrong.
Those nukes must have fucked them up harder than we could have ever expected
>>46139103
>HAVE MY CUM INSTEAD!
I thought all Japanese men were impotent?
>>46139343
Dude, the Japanese people have always been fucked in the head, there is nothing they do today that they wouldn't have done anyway.
>>46137276
Yes, he is. The original LN was so hardcore YAMATO DAMASHII JAPAN IS #1 that the editor had him tone it down for the web novel, which was toned down further for the manga, and then was toned down even further for the anime.
>>46137276
>reservist
Fucking semper sometimes POS, no wonder he's motivated.
>>46139343
>I used to think to myself that Japan can't be that up its own ass, they can't actually continue to deny that they fucked up huge in the Second World War, that they can't be this xenophobic, but Christ have mercy everything I see that they make just proves me wrong.
Dude, its not the standard, just like not every American is an overweight freak jacking off in a Walmart.
>>46139343
Everything that you see?
I mean, there's tons of examples of media from Japanese culture being cross cultural and even criticizing their own mentalities.
Stop being a xenophobic asshole.
>>46139746
>even criticizing their own mentalities.
I wouldn't mind reading or watching something like that.
>>46120973
Why is everything haremshit?
The Jap male don't even like women these days, so why fantasies about collecting them? They wouldn't know what to do with them anyways.
>>46140516
Overcompensation.
Japs can't actually fuck even one woman so to prove their manhood they have all the chicks obsessively in love with the self-insert character even though he never has sex with any of them, or hell even makes out with any of them.
>>46140155
Shigeru Mizuki's Onward Towards Our Noble Deaths
>>46139343
>>I used to think to myself that Japan can't be that up its own ass, they can't actually continue to deny that they fucked up huge in the Second World War, that they can't be this xenophobic, but Christ have mercy everything I see that they make just proves me wrong.
This is bait but I'll bite! You need to realize that this manga is aim to a certain demographic. I mean in its roots it is still just a shitty harem manga. You could say the same of MURRIKAH after seeing the Transformers movies.
And yes Japan is an insanely Xenophobic country but it has been so since... forever.
>>46140516
>They wouldn't know what to do with them anyways.
Often, neither would the protag
>>46122213
>I just watched Man from U.N.C.L.E.
That movie was awright. Probably my favorite moment was the fashion argument that sounded like a gun argument.
>>46121937
Just give me The Adventures of Guy Jean, American Exchange Student
>>46120973
If a GATE opened up in the U.S. the military would immediately steamroll the world powers to assert dominance. Then NASA would send satellites, telescopes, radars, and whatever the fuck else to see what planet it was and where it's located. Meanwhile the folks at Area 51 (because it is an R&D base) would be permitted to figure the properties of magic with any means necessary.and after all that we would use magic to transport our monuments to Earth 2.0 and gleefully nuke old earth into oblivion while we found the Interstellar American Empire on our new home.
>>46144464
Would Elf Americans have more privilege or less privilege than negros?
>>46145297
They would most likely be more productive, so more privilege
>no bondage porn of Pina on sad panda
God damn it Japan YOU HAVE ONE JOB
>>46120973
Boring
GATE would have worked better as a UN peacekeeping mission
Yes I know that now are international military observers, even 3 members of the security council, but they haven't show any more of that
>>46125966
No, what makes you think that
>>46145297
Well, elves are generally analogous to Japanese
>>46120973
It doesn't matter if you think they were "forced" to fight you or not. If there is a big motherfucker with a sword trying to stab me, I'm going to shoot him.
In Texas or Louisiana, where I spend all my time, SOMEBODY in the crowd of what ever city they opened the gate in is packing heat, and even if its a black gang member, there would be too many enemies to miss, with too shiny armor to hide or be confused with people that aren't trying to kill him.
We'd probably take less prisoners, and aim for anyone shinier than the rest, so we wouldn't have nobles to ransom, either.
The USA would probably tell the rest of the world to fuck off, and import resources and wizards.
I have no idea why the people in Gate would make wizards teach them language, and never ask to be taught magic. Our understanding of physics vastly increases their magical might according to the manga, so if one of us is taught the other thing required for magic, we'd be gods. GODS.
I'd probably declare myself Wizard-King of the empire that attacked us, whisk away my family and friends to the special area, and blow the gate up from the other side with a maximized fireball.
And I'd kill the dragon for free, just for bragging rights, but me mother always said, "Why not get paid for something you were gonna do anyway?"
Mage girl best girl. If she won't say yes, monstergirls are fine too.
>>46135544
>>46135821
Laptop, filled with books and blueprints.
>>46121604
> BTW, if japan refused to give other countries access to the gate like they did in the book, who do you think would nuke them first ?
Failing that, would it devolve into ww3 or would the UN security council set aside their differences for once and take a resolution to quarantine the zone ?
No one. Here is what would happen:
As soon as knowledge of the gate went out, the American pacific navy would park itself around Japan, and American troops would begin filtering into the country to take up positions around the Gate.
Not as an invasion, you understand. Oh not, this is just America "honoring their defense agreement".
After all, Japan was explicitly just invaded by a foreign power. Rather more foreign than anyone ever expected, but it fits the bill.
Also, the chances of China and Russia making a play for the Gate are very real concerns. America needs to make a visible show of force to prevent someone else from getting any ideas. By showing just how strongly we are allied with japan.
Japan would get troops. Japan would get guns. The US military would graciously build all sorts of emplacements and fortifications around the gate, to help Japan of course.
It would be very, very difficult for Japan to come up with a reason to refuse all of this "help", and indeed pushing back too hard just means pissing off a country that is bigger, stronger, has them surrounded and already is occupying their country. America would basically control the Gate, but it would be impossible for Japan to be pushed out completely. Both countries would get super wealthy based on all of the resources and opportunities on the other side, and given the situation there isn't even any reason for the Americans to ask for more than a 'reasonable and fair' 50/50 split. After all, if America pulls out Japan gets nothing because Russia and China would just steamroll them.
Japan would be pretty salty about it, but their ability to do anything about it is small.
>>46136248
Holy fuck. That is some hard ass denial.
>>46146156
The question is what Russia an China be willing to do.
With middle east when America invades you know exactly what America would be gettign and it isn't worth the cost opposing them too much.
But here you have an unknown. Unlimited resources? New energy sources - weapons that could push you as to the position of top dog in this world?
This unkonw is something other coutnries can ally and push america. At the very least the would have access to the Gate granted to their expert to evaltuate the situation.
>>46146287
Its important to understand WHY Japan is culturally so messed up these days.
During WW2, the Nazis were not the only one who claimed to be the master race. Japan was all on board with that shit too, claiming to be the objectively superior people. You can even find old WW2 propaganda pamphlets that explain how the Japanese man is superior to his fellows because only Japanese people feel real emotions, other 'people' just feel pale shadows of the powerful emotions that drive the loyal Japanese. They even went on to claim that logic was a tool that showed how weak minded other cultures were, that they had to use carefully plotted reason to determine the right course of action while the Japanese man could simple FEEL what was just and proper and not be wrong about it.
For them to be allies, Hitler had to proclaim that the people of Japan were a lost Arayan tribe, so that they could both be the master race together.
This goes a long way towards why Japan did so much awful shit during the war: you did what you were told because undying loyalty to the emperor, but it was made easier the fact that they literally didn't consider their enemies to be people. So nothing they did to them was wrong, in the same way that stepping on bugs isn't wrong.
After the war ended, America whitewashed the shit out of most of these atrocities simply so that we could get along with them, rather than dwelling on them. Because the Germans were willing to admit they fucked up, but japan wasn't.
Instead, we spent the next couple decades not only helping to rebuild their country, but as part of that rebuilding waging a massive cultural war against Japan from within its own borders, the likes of which has not been seen before or since. All to do our damndest to make sure that these guys didn't touch a gun for the rest of their lives and never had an imperialist dream without waking up and apologizing. It mostly worked, but had some weird side effects on their culture.
>>46146476
Yeah, things would be tense as fuck for the first few weeks or months. But its unlikely that anyone else is going to risk an open war against America for the Gate until they know there is something worth it on the other side.
The most likely outcome is the UN is forced to create an 'independent' taskforce for studying phenomenon on the other side of the Gate and then spreading that information to the rest of the world "equally". Basically publishing papers and shit on what they find and letting people know that magic exists.
Major global powers probably cut deals with the US in order to station troops on the other side and send out exploration parties. This will give the other countries the proof they need to feel that the US isn't going to come back with an army of superwizards or something, but also has the potential to be a real diplomacy nightmare with the cultures on the other side of the Gate.
Like, lets say Russia has an international incident with some fantasylanders and a gunfight happens. The elves are not going to happily just accept that the American forces are blame free because 'what wasn't us, guys, we swear.'
I suspect that it would turn into different countries having limit access to the Gate and its resources, with Japan and America acting as the border patrol/police to keep everything in line. Everyone else would prefer to have total control of the Gate themselves, but no major attack would be launched unless there is a damn good reason for it. Better to keep things in a cold war state instead, espionage and shit to try and sneak stuff back through the gate without getting caught.
>>46136248
ooh ainu people are japs now? fucking gooks
>>46131334
>We don't kill or torture our prisoners
Oh the irony
Do they at least acknowledge how bad they were for it in the past and play it as some sort of penance or do they go full Nanking never happened.
>>46147035
They don't mention any bad they've done, at all, in the manga.I didn't watch the anime because I saw a picture that made the mage girl look like she was from K-On and I was done with it before I even started. I like the manga art way better.
Didn't read the LN or WN, either.
>>46146794
Well it certainly isn't "ainu japs are people", according to japs
>>46147153
If the Manga and Anima are the least "nippon stronk" it's terrifying to think how bad the WN and LN are like.
>>46120973
>delta force
>one of the most elite special forces group ever trained and fielded in the world
>beaten by the JSDF
I can accept SAS and FSB Alpha Group guys, as they are essentially the same thing, maybe even the PLA Special Operations Forces with a significant advantage in numbers. The implication that the JSDF could field troops that are competent enough to kill even a regular airborne schmuck, let alone the elite forces from any first world nation, is insulting.
>>46147542
I think that was the point, as a big fuck you to the world
>>46122268
Wait, what? I'll admit I haven't read it in a while, but weren't they attempting to destroy the human kingdom that Hitler founded with their army of nonhumans?
>>46147035
Yeah, some people here go as far as to deny it. Official government policy is that the Chinese are vastly over inflating the numbers killed in any so-called "Massacre."
Basically, they don't really learn about World War Two the way people in America or Australia or Canada do. Their textbooks have a couple pages about it. Pearl Harbor, general outline of the European theater, and then Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They play themselves up to be victims of foreign aggression and nuclear revenge. Which, you know, is bullshit.
Source: work in a junior high school in Japan.
![251791_46086539c46f2f53d643670afb03e347_large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5U0Fj7I.jpg "251791_46086539c46f2f53d643670afb03e347_large[1].jpg")
>>46121860
>>46130127
>Gate opens innawoods Canada
>No one notices a thing, because Canada is fucking huge.
>People on the other side cautiously poke out, but find nothing unusual.
>Begin logging and hunting because hey this tree is neat, we don't have anything like this back home.
>Build a bonfire to keep the wolves away
>It's the height of a summer heat wave, overflying planes spot smoke the next morning
>Helicopters are sent to investigate, everyone is scared shirtless and runs back through the gate screaming about dragons
>King's face when screaming peasants, sends his best knights to slay the dragon.
>With no one around the bonfire begins to burn out of control
>Firefighters shit bricks and declare DEFCON 1, call in the army to help control the rapidly growing forest fire
>Several thousand gallons of firefighting foam are dumped on the gate just as the king's men emerge from the other side.
>Firefighters cut down trees and set backburns in a ring to contain the forest fire.
>All the kings men can see and hear is smoke, fire, more fire, chainsaws, axes, falling trees, and every now and then a dragon flies overhead and dumps a shitton of goo on them.
>King's face when his knights come back covered in goo, screaming about a bukkake dragon
>Decides to bury the gate and pretend this never happened
Alternately pic related.
>>46149899
Holy shit that is hilarious and awesome. The weirdest part is how accurate that would be for most of canada. Or they get the barren, frozen tundra that no one wants and scuttle the invasion
>>46149817
>They don't really learn WWII like everybody else.
>General outline of the European theater, learn about Pearl Harbor then Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The fuck? Do they know how much of a pussy their civil government and emperor was at the time? How much the Army and Navy couldn't co-ordinate and were the ones to buttfuck the country, and how whipped Hirohito was that he signed off on every little thing not really giving a shit or investigating it deep enough/not being man enough to properly command and control?
>>46149899
I don't care how short it is, even if it was just two episodes I want this to be an anime.
>>46150548
>muh nippon honor
>>46150548
They'd say that "it couldn't be helped" and talk about how "if you could read the atmosphere you'd know that'd be the thing to do, you KY gaijin"
>>46149899
>Gate opens on prairies
>Romans wander out
>Shit themselves because they think they found the afterlife
>>46149817
It couldn't be helped. The Japanese Empire didn't want to start a war with America but they pushed and pushed and starved Japan, so Japan had no choice but to start taking islands for resources or suffer a complete economic collapse. The Americans bated the Japanese into war and then got upset when the Japanese were forced to attack their harbor. The only dishonor the Japanese should feel about the war is the fact that their diplomat did not manage to deliver the declaration of war to the American president before the first attack went off.
My favorite part is when they shit all over the American military (While using old American military tech), but cream themselves a little when they find out Itachi has completed Ranger Training.
I decided to read a bit of the manga. I didn't get very far, but there's a part where the American president is conspiring in the Oval Office with what I guess is an intelligence official. The intel guy says something about how the JSDF has simply fortified the other side of the gate and is just sitting tight, turtling. The American president is like, "Oh, so they've adopted a Hojo strategy." I had to stop reading, because I just kept laughing. I'd be surprised and frankly somewhat impressed if any recent president knew anything about the Hojos at all, let alone if that information was important enough to that President for him to draw a comparison off the cuff like that.
The author apparently used to be in the JSDF, so the main guy is a self-insert character.
>If you could bring one thing to the fantasy land
>>46146017
>Laptop, filled with books and blueprints.
Good luck with the power supply. Hope you took a real expensive solar charger.
>>46123993
One of these days I need to read "The Iron Dream" a novel supposedly by Adolph Hitler, an Austrian artist who emigrated to the US after WW1, began working painting pulp magazine covers and ultimately started writing sci-fi.
>>46151380
>The author apparently used to be in the JSDF, so the main guy is a self-insert character.
If he was in the JSDF, he was probably the closest thing to a company bitch boy analogue they have.
>>46151379
>It couldn't be helped
What is controlling your army and pulling out of China? What is a revolution?
>Japan had no choice, but to start taking islands.
Japan been taking over Asia, one reason the US/Britian was pissed at Japan was not only their incursion into China, but because of their shit with the French in IndoChina and doing basically imperialism, but trying to justify it while doing way worse shit.
>Suffer complete economic collapse.
This is a lie.
>American bated Japanese into war.
Protecting the Dutch territories after a promise and refusing to do trade with someone you don't like isn't baiting.
10/10 Nice bait I took a huge bite.
>>46151380
It is pure wanking man. Pure wanking.
>>46151541
It must be awesome to be in the real JSDF
>Wear fancy uniforms
>Pose for pictures
>Play with US army surplus like tanks and shit
>Never have to lift a finger except show up and look important at events
>Hang out at your very own fort with your friends and talk about your waifus
>No real girls allowed so you'll never get embarrassed
>never have to worry about getting shot
>>46151607
I don't think that guy was expressing his opinion, but expressing a parody of Japanese perceptions.
Japan also completely ignores the shit they did in WWII in Korea, except when censoring Samurai in video games. In Soul Calibur, the typical black-haired samurai Mitsurugi became Arthur, blonde samurai cosplayer with an eyepatch.
They also seem to know a lot about the unification of Japan, except for what happened to cause Hideyoshi to lose power (he spent all his and his supporters' money on a failed Korean invasion, which the country doesn't seem to remember.)
>>46151379
nice bait
>>46151660
And paint up those weapons real nice.
>>46151771
Japan doesn't remember a lot of events. Tbh Japan mostly got lucky during WWII being the only Asian nation to get industrialized quick without any real internal problems, WWI benefited them, and they got cocky after beating the late Russian Empire with assistance from the British.
The military, its leadership, and the way they were doing things didn't help either. I read somewhere beatings were common for low ranking enlistees in the IJA even after orders came out to cease it from the IHQ as it lowered morale along with a few other things.
>>46151919
Holy fuck that shit is real. I saw the DLC for Ace Combat and I just rolled my eyes. "Oh, you silly video game." But, god damnit, Japan.
>>46152017
To be fair to them they also have some legit impressive paintjobs.
>>46121285
You know I have yet to see a black special forces operativeMaybe they're just that good
>>46120973
Gate JSDF is fun. Its one of my dirty pleasures. The beginning was great, Operators operating against knights and other fantasy kritters was awesome. To me the high point of it was the Castle siege and the air Calvary assault. Then they started dabbling in to political intrigue on the effects of a gate opening up into a new world would have on both sides of the gate. Now they are just wandering around aimlessly doing fuck all. They took away my operators operating operatingly and replaced it with NEET with assault rifle wanders the wilderness with Harem. I feel it really went down hill when they decided to go hunt down that dragon.
Hopefully we'll see an Ermor type faction show up with an undead army and watch the JDSF have to deal with that. That might be fun.
Haven't watched the anime but it looks like it was fucking garbage.
>>46152113
Ace Combat DLC
>>46151240
>Gate opens onto central Australia
>A week passes
>Fantasy king orders hellmouth closed no matter the cost
>>46152262
>Gate opens in Chernobyl
>CHEEKI BREEKI IV DAMKE
>>46152262
Gate opens in Australia, is shipped to Naru for processing, eventually hangs itself in its cell.
>>46152311
>Gate opens in Melbourne
>Fantasy creatures join indie band
>But you probably haven't heard of it
>>46132890
I fully believe that the author hasn't fully explored the extent of magic in this setting. Remember that mage girl brought back a bunch of text books from her trip to japan. She was able to quickly apply what she had learned from those books and produce a fireball spell which simply wasn't heard of on her side of the gate. Even her teach told her that this was a major discovery worthy of great recognition and promotion to master if not greater. Now imagine if she applied everything in those texts books to magic.
Artificing
Small scale fusion and to an extent transmutation
Become Female Tesla by applying magic to electrodynamics
Magic based Computing
Tiltowat spell (read magical nukes)
Induction heating (IE pointing at a metal object and having it heat up or melt)
Imagine if she got a hold of Einstein's Relativity: The Special and the General Theory or Steven Hawking's A Brief History of Time?
>>46152453
> Gate opens in outer suburbs.
> Cultural hybridization.
> A bogan dragon in a tank top calling you a cunt becomes just one more thing you have to deal with in Australia.
>>46152455
> Tiltowait
Wizardy player detected.
>>46139343
To be fair, it is kinda hard to stomach.
At least Germany has the balls to admit, "Yea, our bad."
>>46152240
>Hopefully we'll see an Ermor type faction show up
>>46152499
>Gate opens in Longreach
>Gate closes in Longreach
>Gate never looks back
>>46120973
>What would your country do If the portal opened in it?
The national guard, police would shoot to death the invading army. US Jingoism would kick into overdrive, the rest of the world is literally told to fuck off/invading continental US is impossible and logistic hell.
US Army is deployed, Empire gets wrecked faster than Iraqi Army. Americans get monster girl sex slaves and the rest of the world can fuck off or face nuclear annihilation because fuck you its worth all of us dying.
>>46152515
It took them a while, but you have to respect saying we fucked up and swear to not let anything like that be commuted by that group again. Japan is in a world as special as the average blonde chick
>>46152311
I chuckled
>>46149817
In Australia all we get taught about is Gallipoli
Year after fucking year with a bit of kokoda mixed in if your lucky.
It gets redicilus they never mention any of the other battles the Australians were involved in
>>46152666
>Empire gets wrecked faster than Iraqi Army.
Then proceeds to have to deal with terrorists when the terrorists can have actual magic?
>>46154491
Hey, we get a good bit with the Rats of Tobruk too!
>>46154491
Yeah that's dumb. You guys at least reached up to where I live, we found two of you fossilized in the mud somewhat recently.
>>46142594
They seem to be pretty open to french preople, for some unknown reason.
Maybe it's the nation of light and culture trope, the military exchanges before ww2, or some similarities between the cultures, idk.
>>46146707
Iirc the gate opened in the middle of the capital city. You're gonna have a ton of recordings of magical beasts taken by phones. At that point the various intelligence services are gonna hunt info like frenzied sharks, and unless jap. counter-intel. is godly, they're gonna find almost everything.
Ofc there's the issue of "Dragons and magic are real, Mr. President !", which would probably end by "Get that lunatic out of my office and find me a new director".
>>46154512
>secondary ied contains a mass raise dead spell
Well, fuggg.
The parasites and various fungi would probably take a great toll on the invading forces, too.
>>46140516
>>The Jap male don't even like women these days, so why fantasies about collecting them? They wouldn't know what to do with them anyways.
You know as sad as it is that is actually pretty damn accurate. Considering if you are the average working single adult male in Japan between the age of 20-40 your life consists of nothing but your job. Like 90% of your waking time is spent either at work or hanging out with people from your work. Because in their culture this is mandatory, if you are invited to go drink out with your colleges, god forbid your boss, then you simply must go unless you have a very very good excuse. Turning down such an invitation is an extremely serious insult. You get up at 5-6 AM ride the train for 1-2 hours into Tokyo, cause that is the only place most people find work, work 9-12 hours then hang out with your colleagues for 2-4 hours maybe do some shopping on the way, ride the train back home, come home at 8-10 PM, maybe spend a few hours indulging in your secret hobby the collapse into bed and start over tomorrow. Looking forward to doing this for the next 20-30 years of your life is probably one hell of a motivation.
No wonder men don't have any clue about it and that usually their families do everything to arrange their marriages.
stopped being interesting when it got really obvious that the artist was really into guro
>>46154512
More like they close the gate because the political and economical system in fantasy kingdom collapsed and the place is now full of disgustingly poor, starving people.
They open the gate every few years, to check if everybody is already dead so that they can colonize a new empty continent though.
>>46154720
>Considering if you are the average working single adult male in Japan between the age of 20-40 your life consists of nothing but your job.
The 80s were 30 years ago, Anon.
>>46120973
Its yet another GATE thread!
There isn't that much to stay other then its a stupid JSDF-Wankfest. The world-building on the GATE side is terrible.
You got a generic evil slave holding empire for the JSDF forces to slaughter without any guilt. The leaders of said empire are so evil and stupid even after they losing most of their army they don't even consider the possibility that they might be outmatched.
>>46146156
Well yeah the writer is super butthurt since this would be what would actually happen, and it burns his nationalistic YAMATO DAMASHII otaku ass so bad.
Or maybe he buys into his own hype and somehow thinks Japan would keep control of such a thing...
>>46146707
>Like, lets say Russia has an international incident with some fantasylanders and a gunfight happens. The elves are not going to happily just accept that the American forces are blame free because 'what wasn't us, guys, we swear.'
Come on, fantasyland also has multiple nations and tribes. That can't be that hard to understand.
>>46155419
You forgot to mention 'white'.
They are a much less-advanced roman-esque culture of blonde-haired blue-eyed people for the author to jerk off over decimating with his NIPPON BADASS SPECIAL FORCES as revenge for the west slapping down Imperial Japan and bringing them to heel.
Of course he does away with the subtext when he has them literally curbstomp the American special forces unit, as in the people who are way more experienced and actually trained the JSDF dudes, but in that case they aren't all white people since "only America uses black soldiers".
>>46120973
It scratches my 'modern day dudes in fantasy realm' itch. It's probably my absolute favorite thing ever (the modern dudes, fantasy realm thing, not GATE specifically). I could do without the ultranationalist crap, but oh well.
Anyone else know anything good for that? I already read 1631 and am an avid fan of Log Horizon. Don't care for Overlord.
>>46155111
You have never been to Japan have you?
>>46156026
It does it in the worst possible way, its the writer's revenge fantasy except because he's a faggot otaku weekend warrior that while all their men are irredeemable targets to be mown down all their women are Japanese waifu-cliche's jumping into the self-inserts harem, especially the superpowered ones that could actually fuck up his modern japanese soldiers with their ridiculous gothic-lolita dresses and massive oversized weapons.
Anyway have this random image, to help scratch your itch.
>>46155881
Well, it could be a kind of "you guys all look the same to me", especially considering that fonction over form and easy communications have reduced the differences between modern armed forces compared to mediaval armies.
>helmet/woolcap/baklava
>camo pattern
>rifles
>camo paint
Nothing looks more like a sf than another sf.
on the other side, if a group of elves ambushed a coalition patrols and the elf diplomat was all "But they're Yan'she'baa wood elves, and we're Tish'yaa forest elves. Not the same thing at all' we've been sworn enemies for generations. I mean look at their ear piercings and mine, totally different patterns. Incidentally this attacks further my agenda but I didn't have anything to do with it, I swear." You'd probably have a hard time trusting him.
>>46156142
Elves seriously deal with this shit all the time. Every elf is aware that per generation of elves, the same geographical locale of humans will quite possibly go through 2-3 government changes.
If elves were so retarded as to prosecute wars blindly... well, I can't say that wouldn't be a cool premise, elves or dwarves fighting a never ending war against the nations of man, while the humans have absolutely no ability to comprehend WHY they're being attacked.
One D&D setting I saw put forth the notion that goblins, orcs, etc. tend to functionally lack written records, while dwarves keep records going back millenia, and in a perverse way the dwarves are 100% responsible for keeping the wars against the orcs and goblins alive, as the goblinoids genuinely don't have stable governments or lifespans long enough to recall why they're being attacked.
>>46156246
How do you feel about elves that are numerous nature-loving cannibals armed with natural wooden weapons that regularly attack other nations because of their acts of deforestation? And they are opposed by an Elf-King-of-Dwarves who was an Elf minority that was raised in the civilization of the Dwarves and eventually obtained his position through an awe-inspiring hatred for Elf-kind unmatched by any after they killed and ate his elven fiancee during a raid?
>>46156246
We're going back at one of the primary problems of races in fantasy settings, creating nation-states-like structures since you have 1 race= 1 country in 99% of the cases.
I would like to see more non ethnic wars in my not!europe settings (or maybe play an african themed fantasy campaign for once, since the tribe structure is more prevalent there).
>>46156384
Man I hate that, though its alien races that spring to mind for me when entire interstellar species has ONE CULTURE and ONE GOVERNMENT and ONE FAITH etc etc and basically all just being the same with any character that doesn't fall under the stereotypes being treated as some utterly bizarre one-off anomaly.
>>46147542
It doesn't matter who you are, when you are fighting on the enemies turf you are at a severe disadvantage.
Still the jsdf wank during the onsen episode was just stupid. Americans who have the best intelligence and insight of how the jsdf works get their obligatory dumbfounded face in a frame while uttering "who knew x was this good" so the nips can feel all giddy about the "underdogs" of the series.
And fuck the horrible pacing of the anime
While we're talking about japanese military stuff clashing with fantasy what is this panel from?
Since it appears to be a WW2 plane I'm guessing its not GATE related.
>>46154491
I'm actualy intrested. What do your histry programg looks like?
Russian is (was 10 years ago) summerians-egypt-greek-romans-middle ages (the same as you study in a europa school) and then in parallel yous study what happens in Russia.
In australia how much you concentrate on stuff that happneed before australia was colonialized?
![[banana intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/nqn4BTF.gif "[banana intensifies].gif")
>GATE anime hasn't explained why Tyuule is trying to assassinate literally everyone
hurry up
>>46156905
That's Drifters. On that scene what happens is a massive army of monsters led by quite possibly by Jesus is about to make humanity it's bitch by destroying their northernmost defenses like it's nothing. And the guy in the Shinden-Kai is Naoshi Kanno just recenlty taken just before his death.
>>46156384
DnD had a great answer to that in the form of the Harmonium. Honestly one of my favorite factions in anything.
Their backstory is that they got founded by a party of high level adventurers after said party saved the world, and they established the 'way of harmony', which basically comes down to creating world peace by making it so there are no more enemies to fight. Peace through unity, unity through strength, strength through superior firepower.
During second edition, the Harmonium has total control of their home planet, a modest spelljamming navy, colonies of various sizes on 12 other worlds, and strong and noteworthy presence in the outer planes as one of the major players in Sigil.
Their ranks were full of humans, hobgoblins, and even Beholders and werebears that they had gotten to sign on, with a smattering of other races that they picked up from other worlds and planes. They were also trying really hard to cover up the mass genocide of halflings and elves on their home planet after they refused to join the Harmonium and went to war, because that shit was 300 years ago and they know it was wrong so they just bury it and refuse to talk about it.
As a culture they really tried hard to be lawful good, they just frequently failed at it because being Lawful Good is hard when you are a hegemony.
>>46157056
The only true Unity isthrough dick
Is /k/ and /pol/ still this butt hurt about that one scene? You have to learn to let it go, dude/ttes. It ends up contradicting what's stated at the very beginning by the US president and is literally the same thing as in John Ringo's HFY books. Let Japan have this one.
What I wouldn't mind seeing more of is this Stargate SG1 sized mission groups like this >>46156138 . That or Outbreak Company.
>>46156349
I remember the story that epic king of dwarves. His hammer was a weapon of legend.
>>46156491
>alien races
It actualy makes sense soemtimes fro alien races.
If you evolve, occupy your planet, travel to stars and meet other guys, it is extremly likely that all the various countries will ally-fuse together against a common enemy that ould destroy the whole race.
Then you risk going full stalin that mixed the whole Soviet union trying to make as uniform as possible to reduce internal conflicts.
>>46151528
I remember reading something like that.
With Hitler as a contemporary to Asimov or something.
And even better, he's the most embarrassing 50s dad in Ohio to his kids...
>>46151919
Is... is that the pilot in the picture as well?
I... I really don't know why the pilot would chose to be their own pinup...
>>46157352
I assume the woman is some sort of idol and she is being pictured with the helicopter that bears her image as a publicity shot.
>>46149899
>Gate opens in Rhodesia during the Bush Wars
Who sides with the Empire? The White Rhodesians or Mugabe?
>>46157379
That should've occurred to me, but didn't...
>>46121945
>As for "retaliated" USA regulary invades other countries giving lame excuse to U.N. and get away with it.
>>46122233
>Japan is pretty much glued to Americas dick when it comes to military matters.
>The JSDF is a bunch of weapons geeks who joined to play with cool toys because they know they'll never have to fight.
>America would respond through the portal with boots on the ground regardless of what Japan wanted.
Yeah, America wouldn't even need a Nuke, we'd be there from all our Allied bases in Japan as part of the "UN Peacekeeping Task-force."
JSDF may get to come along for the ride, but there is no way the major powers aren't going to get in as well.
>>46138421
>Technically, the treaties signed by Japan and the US would have made Japan into a sockpuppet the moment their land got invaded, didn't matter if the invasion was successful or not, regardless if either nation wanted it or not.
EXACTLY!
>>46146156
>As soon as knowledge of the gate went out, the American pacific navy would park itself around Japan, and American troops would begin filtering into the country to take up positions around the Gate.
>Not as an invasion, you understand. Oh not, this is just America "honoring their defense agreement".
>After all, Japan was explicitly just invaded by a foreign power. Rather more foreign than anyone ever expected, but it fits the bill.
>>46146476
>>46146707
>I suspect that it would turn into different countries having limit access to the Gate and its resources, with Japan and America acting as the border patrol/police to keep everything in line. Everyone else would prefer to have total control of the Gate themselves, but no major attack would be launched unless there is a damn good reason for it. Better to keep things in a cold war state instead, espionage and shit to try and sneak stuff back through the gate without getting caught.
Exactly.
>>46156905
I believe the The Familiar of Zero.
I think I would have enjoyed GATE a lot more if they took an approach that was more similar to Terraformars when it came to the nationalism thing.
I mean, Terraformars mostly deals with the same nations (Japan, USA, China, Russia) and has a similar theme where those nations have conflicting goals and are willing to kill the other guys to achieve those goals, and there's a lot of political bullshit behind the scenes going on as well. But while Terraformars also does its best to give Japan a bit of a special role in the whole thing, it doesn't constantly shit on all the other nations, nor does it bend over backwards to portray everyone on the "wrong" team as evil and incompetent.
>>46157780
Terraformars isn't great either, the roaches bullshit is pretty retarded and the writing is a mess.
Though you are right in that it is less yamato damashii nippon #1 than Gate.
Gate is like a really cheesy B-movie. I wish someone would do a fan translation of it and riff it MST3k style or something.
Pic related is by far my favorite page from Gate.
>>46132695
>>46132738
You know that one guy who isn't liked at the office and doesn't always win awards and doesn't get employee of the month, but is always the best one at the job and is the one the bosses rely on to get shit done and the one getting selected for special positions and promotions? The dude who everyone else loves to talk shit on to make themselves feel better, because they aren't the best at the job but they win awards and are likeable?
America is that guy, and everyone other country is the rest of the office workers bitching about how America is a loser.
I just figured I'd bring you guys back down to Earth.
>>46157982
>/pol/
>>46157893
I'm not saying it's great, I'm saying they handled that aspect better, given a somewhat similar setup.
>>46157423
Probably nobody, they already had their hands full with each other. If anything the world powers would intervene directly or arm them to the teeth in the hope of gaining favors and leverage.
Maybe Mugabe would decide to go through he gate and become a warlord in a fantasy world instead of fighting Rhodesia, but I don't know the guy personally, so it's hard to be sure.
IIRC there was something like that in one of the previous threads about an UN intervention when the gates opens in Africa. The LRA begins raiding the other side and "recruiting" elf children.
>>46157982
That... That has to be one of the worst thought metaphor I've seen on 4chan.
>>46158227
>tfw Rhodesia gives Mugabe and the others carte blanche to do what they want on the other side of the gate to end the war...
>>46157902
Fucking kek
>>46152240
>They took away my operators operating operatingly and replaced it with NEET with assault rifle wanders the wilderness with Harem.
This so fucking much. The idea behind it is absoloutly facinating, but like almost everything the nips do they had to fill it up with the shittest of haremshit and tropes for lonly basement dwellers instead making it for people who are intrigued by the concept.
Well that is the fate of the minority that wants intelligent entertainment.
Has this whole concept been executed well anywhere?
>>46157902
Every fucking time I laugh.
Didn't the anime tone down the harem?
>>46157902
Thats not true at all
>>46159420
The concept of modern army vs fantasy? For a rather loose definition of "done well", there's Salvation War. There's plenty of fedoras being tipped there but even with that it's still better than Gate.
>>46120973
Along with the many modern animu that has an interesting idea, this one is ruined by the harem shit. Why do they need the harem shit? Are japo men really that pathetic?
>>46120973
>What do you think about this series?
Apparently if you ask a Japanese person about it, they will apologize for it existing.
>>46151660
Fucking pansies.
>>46156044
A significant part of their population is working part-time these days.
>>46159760
>Anime
>Toning down the harem elements
>Be in the Army.
>Get deployed to a fantasy land after a portal to it opened up. There is a political shitstorm going on back in your world, and journalists are being arrested by the thousands for attempting to break into the area where the portal is.
>In the fantasy world the army has established itself a base near the portal, next to a forest full of elves. The elves are currently in negotiations with the base commander and diplomat, a barb wire fence is set up at the entrance of the forest.
>During a patrol to check on the fences you spot an elf staring at you from behind a tree in the forest. Both you become perpelexed at the sight of each other, your mouth drops open staring at a creature of fantasy for the first time in your life. The thing that draws your attention the most about her is not her mystic beauty, but those long ass ears of hers.
>You and the elf stare at each other for a long time before she waves and disappears into the forest from which she emerged. Your heart is beating fast, you saw a fucking elf, you should've fucking talked to her.
>You later tell your Sergeant about your encounter with an elf. Everybody who does patrols fucking tell that elf is common sight; she figured the patrol times and always pops up to get a look at everybody before fucking off its nothing special.
Modern Army in Fantasy land SoL when?
>>46160332
>Are japo men really that pathetic?
Anon, do you really even need to ask that question when the term "herbivore male" was invented to describe them?
>>46160539
When will Fruity Rudy get an anime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFVfbPFADF4
>>46160506
Well, the /pol/ content was reduced in each iteration of the franchise. It stands to reason that the other thing that makes this shit also was.
And I heard the girls show less interest in the self-insert this time around.
>>46159130
>military fiction
>intelligent entertainment
Tom Clancy, Landser-novels and whatever the Russians got are for total plebs, Anon.
>>46160540
The term just means "somebody who isn't a PUA". It's a current year version of a pop culture dichotomy in public male behaviour that has existed at least as far back as the 19th fucking century in Japan.
>>46136248
Its true
Wherever an American marine goes, he must rape
Unlike the honorable samurai warriors from the land of the rising sun who simply are forced by their good manners to accept the comfort freely offered by the grateful civilians of other nations they are liberating
>>46160711
>The term just means "somebody who isn't a PUA".
That's actually not what it means at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men
>>46160637
But stil far more entertaining then just sexual selfinserting for poor otakus.
When I am presented a world I want it to be convincing or at the very least more present then potential waifus.
>>46160814
Frankly it does. Carnivoire guys are dudes who're agressively chatting up chicks on streetcorners and swap tips on the best approach. Have been at least since the 1920s.
>>46160978
Anon, there is a different between simply not being a PUA versus being completely uninterested in relationships with the opposite sex.
>>46160978
>this is what herbivore men tell themselves
Look, I've never had a girlfriend. I don't go out much, and when I do it's either to an event where all the females are related to me or where there are few or even no females. I don't talk to strangers in public places, because I don't like strangers talking to me in public places. But I'm still trying to find a special woman.
>>46161046
>versus being completely uninterested in relationships with the opposite sex.
Which herbivore males aren't. Never were outside of US and Japanese clickbait pages. They're simply dudes who have a life and who aren't aggressively pushing for sex.
>>46160496
Yes, working part time at 6 jobs at once. Just cause statistical data says stuff doesn't mean things are different.
>>46154491
hey, you probably get to watch the movie Gallipoli all the time, thats a mild bonus
>>46149817
As if anywhere else is any better.
Here in the UK we're just taught how evil the nazis were. Right down to getting shown an air raid shelter filled with racist graffiti.
Do we learn about any of the things we did? Of course not. Allies are the good guys.
>>46162354
Actually, yeah?
There's no such thing as true "good guys and bad guys" in war, but WW2 was grey vs black.
It was almost ridiculously easy to be the 'good' side even when you happened to be allied to the Russians just because of who you were fighting back against.
War crimes were not evenly distributed in this period of history.
>>46162465
>in this period of history
More like any period of history.
>>46162631
But we are talking about WW2 specifically
>>46120973
>Any other good modern vs Fantasy media?
>other
what's the first????
>>46131334
>>46162465
Is there anyone besides Germany and the US that actually teach the bad shit they've done?
>>46164119
we do that here in italy too
>>46164583
how do you have enough time?
>>46164705
he said the bad shit, not the incompetent shit.
>>46164119
Not in regards to war but Canadian education, at least in my area of BC, makes sure that we know of all the fucked up things we did to the native population.
>>46164119
But my nation's never done any bad shit.:^)
>>46164119
France do.
Heck, teaching about the decolonisation and the cold war is almost only about the bad things. Makes for a lot of wtf moments when you finally read a complete history book about that period.
For ww2, it's mostly "we had a lot of bad guys and horrible stuff going on, but we purged them all in 1945-46". There was evan a short passage about hw some purges weren't really necessary or well-directed, for that matter. I'm a bit sad that the Resistance and 2°DB are overhyped so much when the 1st Army and the operations in Africa, Italy and southern France are left in the drawer. I'm pretty sure 80% of the people here don't know about operation Dragoon.
Apart from that, no remorse for the Revolution (even the Terror) or Napoleonian Wars at all. We wuz emprahs and shit. But on the other hand old History doesn't carry the same emotional baggage, so it's fairly neutral up to ww1.
>>46151972
Didn't help that there was no real way to disagree with a superior officer at the time. A high ranking guy can completely berate and chew out his subordinate officers without fear of them talking back, as it was expected of them to just endure it, which leads the lower ranking officers to take out their frustration on their subordinates. It eventually went to the conscripts who had nobody to get angry at (except for civilians).
>>46165031
>>46164119
Every country has dirty laundry and closet skellingtons. For us Canucks it's all about things like:
>Residential schools, aka cultural genocide against the natives
>The Somali Affair, aka why the Canadian Armed Forces no longer has any paratrooper regiments
>The Chinese head tax, just the tip of a racism iceberg
>Japanese WW2 interment camps, not nearly Auschwitz tier but we certainly did the whole "confiscate and sell all of your worldly posessions to pay for the prison were stuffing you into" thing.
I'm sure I'm forgetting a few. Some of this stuff the government is *still* in the process of owning up to, but at least they are making the effort. Unlike say, Turkey and the Armenians or any number of examples you can point to.
>>46156138
Given the clipping on the shotgun and the difference in quality between the skin textures this feels like a mod for some fantasy game that we don't know of.
![tera03uc3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SgD9EC5.jpg "tera03uc3[1].jpg")
>>46165385
That's a screenshot of Tera. I don't know much about the game but I've heard that it has a hugeERPmodding scene. Porting in some operators to go with your tieflings of the week wouldn't be too hard.
>>46121125
>Ride of the Valkyries intensifies.
>>46165449
I can't imagine that the mod scene is too big given the fact that Tera is a MMO, the tools must be rather limited.
