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I'm making a Vengeance paladin multiclass that aims to get critical hits as frequently as possible. I know it isn't necessarily optimal, but my party like my previous paladin's crit-smites and I want to further build around nuking my foes. I'm not making a build that goes to level 20, since we never really play to it. Let's stick to level 12 max, help me please distill this build down into one that gets crits as frequently as possible.
So far I've got variant human Champion fighter 3 for improved crit, Assassin 3 for surprise crit and advantage, and paladin 4 for a total of 10 levels. Going barbarian wouldn't make too much sense for the theme of the character and I don't really feel like risking giving the enemy advantage against me.
My chosen feats so far are Lucky and Great Weapon Master.
Any changes or additions to the build to make it even better?
>deleting your other thread to post the same comic but with different text
>>46110399
Why not focus on making a fun character rather than making a build around mechanics?
>>46110350
What are some neat Homebrew Feats or Manuevers for Fighters?
>>46110404
totally worth it
So, ok. I've returned to D&D fairly recently, and I'm just browsing the PHB , and one thing strikes me...
The casters can cast next to no spells.
Combined with next-to-no scaling of spells, that makes it feel as if casters are pretty useless.
Did Wizards finally make a non-caster edition?
>>46110614
They start off with very few but they have enough to carry them through most adventuring days by later days.
It's not non-caster edition.
>>46110648
Hmm. How does martial damage scale with spell damage?
The fact that spells are static feels like they should be rather weak. But perhaps martials have also been nerfed?
>>46110614
I don't know where you got that impression from. Did you skip over all of the damage cantrips?
Did you not see how a good portion of spells (Cure Wounds, Magic Missile, etc.) get increases based on the level of the spell slot you're using?
>>46110713
Combat balance is fine. Martials deal single-target damage in good to great amounts, casters do control shit and AoE damage in bursts.
Utility-wise, casters win hands-down.
>>46110614
Having played through a campaign from level 1 to 15 as a wizard, I still felt like the most powerful member of the party (consisting of a ranger, warlock and druid), but it was definitely not as wide a gap as it was in some other editions. I also definitely felt the crunch with the higher level spell slots, I'd have to pick and choose if was worth casting a big spell now or saving it for later.
>>46110399
Too much critical, too little smite. Do champ or do assassin, don't try to do both.
>>46110713
Martial damage is off the charts. Only twinky cheese builds can let a caster match (or momentarily edge out if they're burning their 9th and 8th slots) the single target DPS of a battlemaster or champion fighter. Open Hand Monks get the only save-or-die in the game and colossal damage even if they make the save.
>>46110718
Are the Cantrips really that good?
Also. The spell scaling requires higher slots, and it scales badly. Is it ever worth actually casting them at high levels?
>>46110811
The cantrips are going to be your bread and butter. Yeah they're good.
>scales badly
Depends on the spell. Cure Wounds? Yeah, garbage spell now.
Scorching Ray? Sleep? False Life? Those spells scale pretty well in my mind.
Haven't looked at 5e in a year
What have I missed?
>>46110350
i got mentioned in the op!
>>46110811
Depends on the spell and the situation.
Its also worth noting that taking a mid level damage spell that you can scale up when you need extra oomph and then taking utility spells for your high level picks gives you more versatility.
>>46110837
Three sandbox-heavy campaigns, a setting book for the Sword Coast with some new subclasses, the release of an OGL version of the rules, and a Wizards-approved marketplace for homebrew products using their setting stuff. And a bunch of playtest materials, including two for potential psionics rules.
>>46110864
>the release of an OGL version of the rules
Interesting
>>46110350
>Official /5eg/ Mega Trove, contains all official 5e stuff:
nope
Wheres the CoS scan before you can make such a statement?
>>46110875
Once there is one, it'll be in there.
>>46110749
He smites on his criticals for maximum hit dice. Either way, functional wasn't what I was going for. Like I said, the build isn't optimal.
>>46110404
And he still didn't put the damn link with Charsheet anon's sheets when multiple people have been explicitly saying too..
>>46110875
>Wheres the CoS scan before you can make such a statement?
go buy it poorfag
>>46110888
It should go in the pastebin imo, with the other homebrew stuff.
Seriously where's the Curse of Strahd upload? It's been out for ages and they're releasing the digital version soon as well. Is nobody bothering with it because they'll just share the pdf version when it's out?
>>46110942
The other 5e forums (gitp, enworld) have scans, just go there.
>>46110899
Any new online resources/tools we need in there? Are the ones currently there still useful?
>>46110811
Fireball is if you need that AoE punch.
>>46110942
>they're releasing the digital version soon as well
The only digital version of the game they've announced for release is for Fantasy Grounds (and have released that already, actually).
WotC isn't going to release PDFs of their 5e stuff, period, unless some major corporate attitude changes happen.
>>46110974
Wouldn't it just be more spell slot efficient to throw more fireballs. Compared to burning higher level spells for it, I mean.
>>46110989
I wonder how many people have gotten desperate and bought a copy between release and when it finally gets scanned. It can't be many. Just release a pdf copy you fucking hacks WotC.
>>46111000
That compromises time. That otherwise indicates that you did not need the punch.
Do you want an army of fifty 75% health enemies bearing down on you that you can most probably kill over your next 3 turns, or do you want fifty corpses?
>>46111005
Has martial tankiness also been nerfed?
>>46111001
I bought a copy early only because Amazon said it would be released on the day OF my regular session and I was depending on getting it early enough to play CoS that same day. I avoided the risk and bought it from my local FLGS instead. they could use the money more than Amazon anyway.
>>46111013
No, not really. Bear totem barbarians are the hardest to bring down since while raging they have resistance to nigh-everything. Fighters get second wind and are bulky with high AC. Paladins aren't as great for the role unless they have extraordinary ability scores.
>>46110889
>>46110889
I own it. Still would like a pdf. I'm thinking of suing the OP for false advertisement.
>>46111082
How about you use the money you would spend on a lawyer to get a scanner and scan the damn thing.
The irony from Wizards not selling pdfs.. I know that I would've bought pdf books, but I have no interest in physical books.
So. Piracy it is. Yo ho.
>>46111082
>I own it.
what a fucking liar lmao
>>46111110
Yeah, they're pretty old-fashioned. I don't get how they don't even have digital character sheet etc. utilities, that can't be a budget thing when they could get an enthusiastic computer science student to knock them up for a couple grand.
On the larger scale, I wonder where the friction to digitalize is coming from. WotC management, the D&D team or Hasbro?
There's a rumour that in the Hasbro hierarchy, WotC/D&D is part of the "boys' sports" division.
>>46110970
Links?
>>46111168
>There's a rumour that in the Hasbro hierarchy, WotC/D&D is part of the "boys' sports" division.
What does this mean?
>>46110970
Already looked. Can't see them. Calling bullshit, or they've been pruned by mods.
>>46111255
>they've been pruned by mods
this happens but the get reposted
>>46111285
Why has nobody bothered grabbing a copy and putting it in the thread MEGA account?
>>46111326
because fuck this shit thread
I got mine
it's complete but a shit scan anyway
>>46111333
Toss a link to where you got yours, then?
>>46111225
In a corporation, there are different departments. Like, the IT department, sales, HR, and then the departments that develop different products. For Hasbro they might be: films and TV, dolls, action figures, arts & crafts, electronic toys, books. WotC is supposedly under the boys' sports division, which includes stuff like Nerf guns and frisbees.
>>46111333
So yeah, bullshit
>>46111341
Don't be gullible anon, he's bullshitting
>>46111341
>>46111352
Ah. I thought it was a metaphor for something.
>>46111354
Asking for proof to his claims is hardly gullibility. If he actually has a copy, he can prove it and share.
>>46111373
Fair point.
My apologies
>>46111373
>>46111379
fags i was lying the entire time
>>46111387
>>46111379
There we go. Now we can get back to ignoring the shitheel. So looking at the maps that are available, they've added a few new things to Barovia that I don't recall seeing in the older stuff. Especially up on Mount Ghakis.
>>46111396
i lied
Is there ever a reason to use a glaive or halberd?
Kind of annoyed the Tarokka Deck doesn't come out in my area for another month or so. Why didn't GF9 get their thumbs out of their asses and release the Deck along with the new book?
>>46111453
For every thumb GF9 pulls out of their assholes, two more take its place.
>>46111450
Being awesome. Also I think that one of them has the reach property.
>>46111450
Polearm master/sentinel/great weapon master or any combination thereof
>>46111463
Yeah I spent a while today calling up my local shops asking after the Deck and when I mentioned it was from GF9 they universally said they refuse to fucking deal with them. Doesn't make me hopeful for ever getting my grubby mitts on a Deck of my own.
>>46110350
poisons are a bit expensive aren't they? fuck
i was not entirely truthful about the scans
>>46111468
>>46111475
But, lances do mroe damage? Oh shit, disadv within 5 feet, I forgot
>>46110768
On the down side monks die surprisingly quickly if they get caught in melee.
>>46110614
This edition is basically the most balanced DnD has ever been as far as I can tell. Materials and casters can roughly pump out the same amount of damage in a day if you build then right, with the main separating factor between martials and casters being tankiness vs utility. Casters are far from being underpowered still but they are on much more level playing field with martial classes.
>>46111536
>On the down side monks die surprisingly quickly if they get caught in melee.
they are not a good class
>>46111168
As an enthusiastic computer science student, I'd love to work for Wizards to update all of their shit.
Maybe even make Magic's video games vaguely appealing.
>>46111603
>As an enthusiastic computer science student
eww
>>46111603
That's made out-of-house anyhow.
>>46111567
They aren't tanks, they're mobile martial control. Play them appropriately and they do fine.
>>46111536
>This edition is basically the most balanced DnD has ever been as far as I can tell.
I'd put 4e above that. 5e has a lot more of a 'Can do stuff in non-combat/can't do stuff in non-combat' compared to that.
>>46111628
Man, I miss the controller options of 4e monks. So god damn mobile and so much dickery control.
>>46111644
>I'd put 4e above that.
>Man, I miss the controller options of 4e monks.
ive got a great idea for you two
>>46111677
What? I like 5e. I'd just say that 5e is the most balanced it's ever been isn't really accurate.
>>46111644
I wouldn't know. I was introduced to dnd with 3.5 and was told by my friends to avoid 4e like the plague.
But Idk I've always felt your in combat and out of combat action economy and such seemed pretty fair all and all. Could I get an example of what you mean?
>>46111628
Yeah this is true but they don't seem to control that much unless you go open hand or until you get to lvl 5 and get the stun fist. Honestly I'm not saying monks are bad, I like them flavor wise and are better than ranger and warlock imo, but they don't win any medals from me either.
>>46111696
Not the other guy but as per standard 5e has broken crafting systems for one. 5 gp/progression means a set of Full Plate takes like two or three times longer than it should, but it also means you can craft several magnitudes beyond what is plausible for really cheap goods.
>>46111696
>But Idk I've always felt your in combat and out of combat action economy and such seemed pretty fair all and all. Could I get an example of what you mean?
Spells are MUCH more versatile than what non-casters get for utility options and martials have a much smaller list of fancy tricks they can pull off in 5e.
In 4e on the other hand a Monk could go full Jackie Chan in combat and get enemies hitting their own allies. Fighters had a regeneration (If they were conscious and under half HP) ability to represent being completely unwilling to back down and keep going despite the beating they'd taken. Rogues could blind people or Fence them across the room, using clever footwork to reposition them easily.
While on the other hand, out of combat for both spellcasters and non-spellcasters was 90% in the area of Skills, rather than Spells.
Doing a big Druidic Ritual? That was the Nature skill. Focusing to detect magic? Anyone with Arcana training could do that even if they couldn't cast spells.
One of my biggest annoyances was how they gutted rituals. In 4e Rituals were something that anyone could do any of them, as long as they had the associated skill and training. 5e made them more 'The wizard gets his utility spells without spending a slot if he's got time'.
>>46110399
Ambuscade ranger maybe?
Anyone save the high res CoS maps?
>>46111756
>Fence them across the room, using clever footwork to reposition them easily.
That's actually a really cool idea for a class feature!
>>46112035
Dex/Cha rogues were more 'Swashbuckling fencers' than they were backstabbers in 4e a lot of the time. Though you could happily make them either.
They got a heap of Riposte and Repositioning tricks. Dex/Str just beat you to death in an alleyway and Dex/Int cried because it got almost no support before Essentials but was supposed to be more of a skirmisher vanishing in and out of shadows.
>>46112058
4e seems neat reading about it, I really do wish I had a chance to play it. Everybody I knew refused to play anything but 3.5 because they'd all bought 20 books and spent years on managing all the bloat to run a game properly.
>>46110480
What is this ''fun'' you speak of?
>>46111756
Rogues can still blind people, they just need a DM that uses decent crafting/poison/bomb rules
I want to make a Bladelock, because the concept is cool. But I don't want to suck, because the rules are subpar. How would you guys do it, starting from level 7? I'm not too concerned with being the Most Optimised Ever, but I don't want to be constantly in the shadow of the party's Paladin and Eldritch Knight.
I'm leaning towards Fighter 2 / Warlock 5. Then put the next level into Fighter 3 for Battlemaster, and after that just Warlock it up. Fighter first to get armour proficiencies, Second Wind and Action Surge. Warlock 5 to get the pact stuff and Thirsting Blade. Then a third level of Fighter for Battlemaster stuff (more extra damage, handy manoeuvres).
>>46112128
F is for friends who play games together!
U is for you and me!
N is for anywhere and anytime at all!
Down here in the deep blue board!
why iron item ac 19 but iron plate ac 18
>>46112188
Sounds solid to me, but I would suggest, if the game gets far enough, dipping one more level in fighter for the 4th lvl feat. You can postpone that for as far back as your 20th lvl but if you get that far or whatever you should do it.
>>46112110
4e suffered very poorly from bad PR. The initial look people got at it gave a lot of people the idea that classes were samey because they had standardized how abilities were laid out and it took a bit to realize the differences.
I won't say it wasn't a dramatic shift from 3.5 (Oh lord it was) but I still consider it a very fun game as long as you go into it remembering that it's trying to emulate the D&D Novels and swashbuckling/high fantasy movies more than 'This is exactly how the world works' or '4 unfortunate shitheads who'll easily be replaced by 4 more unfortunate shitheads when they all fall down a pit and die'
>>46112213
>:)
>>46112209
One is a solid object and the other has open spaces and notches because there's a person in there. Imagine trying to stab a piece of paper vs stabbing 500 sheets.
>>46112224
Or trying to stab a man wearing armor versus armor filled with iron.
Made a Tarokka deck to go with my massive amount of maps... Really looking forward to starting CoS on 3rd April now...
>>46110350
Got until the end of today to make my character and i've got no clue what to be
>>46112912
>>46112985
When In doubt, make a cleric or a fighter. There can never be too many clerics or fighters in a party.
>>46112912
Sort of jealous. I gotta wait for the official one to come out. Couldn't stand printing them on regular paper.
>>46113053
These turned out pretty nicely I have to say, I printed them on decent quality paper from my office's printers, and at 600DPI. Then cut them out and stuck them in UltraPro sleeves in front of a MTG common :)
>>46112985
War/Life/Tempest/Nature/Trickery cleric
>Full caster
>Can hold it's own in melee combat
>>46113022
>>46113173
I want to be a tempest cleric but how can I make them a bit more melee focused?
they only get 1 attack per turn
Should things such as
>http://engl393-dnd5th.wikia.com/wiki/D%26D_5th_Edition_Wiki
and
>http://www.orcpub.com/
Be added to the OP post?
Also, does anyone have a link to the complete I, Strahd book series?
What's everyone's opinion on inspiration? Do you play with it? As a GM, when do you feel is the appropriate time to award it?
Are you comfortably familiar with all the DMG and PHB rules on inspiration?
So fellow fa/tg/uys my new party has a huge session today (13-14 hours) and just hit level 4.
We have a huge mix of fuckery for our party, main people who are always here are a drawf cleric (bro tier guy) a great weapon master paladin, a tiefling sorcerer who loves playing pranks with a high charisma, a halfling rogue with a huge drinking problem (most of us drink but he's shitfaced 24/7 and still functions) and lastly is my character, a high elf fighter/bard.
How fucked are we?
>>46113216
If you go variant human, you can take the magic initiate feat and get the booming blade cantrip, which will fit with being a tempest cleric anyway, as it's thunder damage.
This is assume the DM is using feats, using SCAG and allows variant humans
>>46113001
Hot damn, you laminated the maps too?
>>46113244
I like to include inspiration, but as a noob DM, I rarely remember to give it, and my noob players don't even know what their flaws are anyway
>>46113323
>13-14 hours
That sounds equally amazing and horrifying.
>>46113244
My GM lets players frame scenes, like going to an NPC to talk to them and basically exploring their character or the world. The default way of acting by your flaw/bond etc is clever to get murderhobos and new players to RP but for more experienced groups it seems a bit unnecessary. Like in Dungeon World where you get exp for acting according to your alignment, it's cool at first but then becomes slightly annoying with arguing and some being easier to do than others, etc.
I myself like the variant rule that players reward inspiration, means the GM doesn't have as much to keep track of and lets them decide how Inspiration should be rewarded.
>>46111450
Combat, mostly. You can also poke things from a distance, or use the halberd as an improvised gaff hook. Or use either add a walking stick. Or you could prop a door or port culls open. So many possibilities.
>>46113444
I really agree that inspiration being awarded by experienced players that can avoid breaking the meta is a good way about it.
>>46113440
Its a max group of about 7 dudes who get along really well, 2 of our players are experienced DMs so they help out alot with map making and note taking.
Our last session went from 11am to 4am, not only did we level up 2 times (from 2-3 and 3-4) we got a bunch of cool items and are currently pretty rich off the loot.
Our activity list from that session include storming a castle and taking it, cleaning out an old village of monsters that were causing hell on the nearby village, and killed a slightly grown dragon. Including alot of other small things here and there that I left out but effectively we get shit done and it's hilarious how it happens.
>>46113440
I can hardly get my group of 6 together on Saturday night over skype/roll20 for like 4 hours, makes me jealous
Oh but since people are sharing things they made for CoS here's my roll20 like "splash screen" it also plays this https://soundcloud.com/zean-1/zombie-hoodoo which has become like my kinda theme for the campaign so far.
>>46113525
And I forgot to upload it
>>46113421
Nah, they're just printed high quality (600DPI) on a laserjet at work, they feel really nice as they are printed on both sides.
>>46113541
I like it.
We haven't had a PC death yet but we have gotten dangerously close multiple times, even in the first session we almost lost our polearm guy because he got out from behind the human shield and took damn near 30 damage from a spell.
>>46113216
Booming Blade would be your best bet. Spiritual Weapon, while not technically melee, does help for giving you a bit more DPS punch at a low spell slot cost too, especially if you're not doing much else with your bonus action.
>>46113244
I'm sure it's useful for some tables, but it's pretty irrelevant at mine. My players don't need any kind of extra benny to roleplay their characters, and a generic "do better at a thing" token isn't all that interesting.
>>46113638
Thanks! I like to give the players a little readout. I haven't got to start yet...probably have like 3-4 more sessions of LoMP left ;_; I want to do CoS so badly.
Gotta stay behind the human shields
>>46113683
readout meaning a tracker*
>>46113683
The lesson was learned from that day forward, when the Elf has a plan listen up.
TLDR we stacked up innahallway with a dead body held infront of my pc, the polearm guy sees someones shadow past the doorway and rushes in, he got smacked pretty hard and went unconscious. After that we blitzkrieg'd in like a SWAT team from the 90s and killed everything.
>have ranger in our party
>he decides he wants a tortoise companion
>a fucking tortoise
>dire wolf? nah fuck that he wants a tortoise
>makes travelling impossible
>while riding our horses we have to stop so the tortoise can catch up
>barbarian speaks up saying ''come on the tortoise is slowing us down''
>ranger retorts with ''HE TRIES THE BEST HE CAN!''
>in battle he sometimes orders it to attack
>it just sits there
>despite this he comforts it saying ''it's okay Percy you go when you're ready''
we all had a good laugh
>>46113835
Nice!
I'm interested to see my group's dynamic. Two of them are playing a brother pair of Aasimar a Paladin and Cleric.
>>46113921
I'm dying
>>46113921
>>46110399
You have less than 1% chance to crit higher than if you went paladin 5. If you went pal 7 champ 3 you would have much better crits, you are missing out on extra attack for the build right now, and you don't even have spells above first level to smite with.
You forgot the cardinal rule of multiclassing here, make sure you get second attack. Go paladin 5 (at LEAST) then start multiclassing into whatever retarded thing you want. You have less combat viability than someone half your level as is. There aren't many ways to gimp your char in 5e, but by god you are trying.
>>46114150
rogue paladin is kinda fun too. Get Sneak Attack dice added onto your smite.
Paladin reference sheet finished. zip has been updated.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5m5afrklabpz5aj/tgCharacterSheet.zip
>>46113541
>papyrus
Die, monster
>>46114332
I am Strahd, I am the land.
>One only tells the truth, the other always tells lies
Any fun NPC interaction puzzles like this I can throw in my dungeon today?
>>46114287
Separate subclass sheets, neat.
On another note:
Someone was asking earlier for a strength-based dirty fighting rogue. How's this? Balanced at all?
>>46114490
Think it needs medium armor
What would be a good capstone for a phalanx-fighter archetype?
>>46114663
An ability to take an attack of opportunity on any incoming attack as a free action?
note: no fucking clue if this is balanced, I don't do level 20 stuff lol
Looking for the anon who posted that Wood elf Monk1/Battlemaster5 build last thread.
Shit's cash.
Repostan here.
Wood elf
10 Str
16 Dex
11 Con
10 Int
16 Wis
10 Cha
Background: Sailor
Saves: Str, Dex
Skills: Athletics, Acrobatics, Insight, Perception
Tools: Navigators tools, Vehicle (water), Cartographer set, Calligrapher set.
Fighting style: Mariner
Maneuvers: Lunge, Trip, Riposte
Feats: Defensive duelist
Nice and lightweight.
Shit's cash since you eventually get all your fighter attacks with a versatile Dex spear and a free unarmed strike as a bonus action.
Defensive duelist lets you stay in melee despite low Con but then becomes increasingly broken as you level up gain more AC and Con.
>>46114287
Wow. Seperate class sheets are super helpful. Thanks for the work you're putting into this, charsheet anon. You're doing god's work
>>46114490
I don't know about balance, but I and several of my friends have wanted to be a big, burly, mean rogue guy. To quote (poorly, and from memory) Spoony, "he's the kind of Rogue that will knock you over the head with his club and pick your pockets after the fact."
Hey guys. I got a player who really wants to be a yuan-ti. No problem. As an exercise I decided to make up the race using the DMG guidelines. I'm stuck on one part though and need the advice of more experienced players.
(I chose to model the pureblood, btw, for obvious reasons.)
I am mimicking Dwarven Resilience with Serpentine Resilience, giving them advantage on poison saves and resistance to poison damage. Totally fits the yuan-ti.
But on spells, I'm concerned about balancing power with the added resilience. (The DMG said as much when they made aasimars.)
What I have now is: "You can cast animal friendship as an at-will spell, but only against snakes. At 3rd level you learn the poison spray cantrip if you didn't already know it. At 5th level you can cast suggestion once using this trait and you regain the ability to do so when you finish a long rest."
Animal friendship (snakes) is an at-will spell and the other two spells are 3/day spells for purebloods in the MM
.
I also gave them Common, Draconic and Abyssal.
Thoughts?
inb4 use green dragonborn. I want the yuan-ti pureblood to be a natural warlock or social rogue, like the tiefling, as befits their race's goals.
>>46114943
Maybe only given them Common and Draconic. Three languages might be much, but I'm basing this off of the base races.
You could also maybe make Poison Spray a 3/day or 2/day, but I would recommend giving them a 1st level spell instead, Ray of Sickness 1/day perhaps? I give this suggestion because I'm looking at the Tiefling's racial spells. Start with a Cantrip, learn a 1st level spell at 3 (though it's cast as a 2nd), and learn a 2nd level spell at 5.
>>46114915
Then you are pleased?
>>46115095
Don't half-elves and gnomes get 3 languages?
>>46110350
After a player does the whole meditating with an item thing, or identifying item on it, what kind of description do you as GM give them?
Would you literally write out the description as it is in the DM Guide word for word? A shortened version?
>>46115104
I like it, but sneak attack with unarmed might be a bit much, if only because I remember a Monk/Rogue being quite effective with his sneak attacks since the DM allowed, by default, him to get sneak attack from unarmed strike.
Dirty Fighting incentivizes you to take Grappler and try to grapple more frequently, so it might get some use, but grappling isn't normally as effective as flat attacking in my experience. Maybe this would change, but I dunno.
Look Behind You is pretty great, especially in a fluff sense, but I think there should be a qualifier at the end like "if the target is immune to being charmed (or some other type of DM discretion is advised if it doesn't make sense for the target to get distracted, like an automata of some kind), the ability fails".
Sand In Your Eye is fun, and sounds like a grand old time. Would help other martials immensely to blind the target first and then they go in and start swinging. Hit Them While They're Down initially seems overpowered, but they get it at 17, so I'm mostly fine with it.
It seems pretty decently done.
>>46115121
Gnomes get Common and Gnomish, but Half-Elves do get 3 (Common, Elvish, and one extra of their choice). They're the only ones that get three from race in the PHB, though.
>>46115095
I forgot about Ray of Sickness. That's perfect.
>>46115121
Half-elves do, but they don't get much else.
>>46115164
I tell them the important parts and how to use the item, and pass them an index card with the item's name and DMG description on it in case they need to reference it. 3.5" x 5" index cards are standard MtG sized cards when you cut them in half, so you can even put it in a card sleeve so they can track charges with a dry erase marker and pips.
>>46115204
>>46115242
I really need to re-read what all the races get..I haven't seen anybody play a gnome in ages.
>>46115095
>>46115242
And limiting to Common and Draconic is okay. Just realized that the yuan-ti gods will surely be able to speak draconic. Abyssal is superfluous.
Now just need to pick a cantrip. I like poison spray, a lot. Its even in the stat block. Maybe limiting it to 3/day is a good way to offset having two offensive spells (poison spray and ray of sickness)?
Gnomes get common and gnomish, with uses the dwarvish alphabet. (Easy to misread that, I'm sure.) Forest gnomes can "talk" to woodland critters, but its not a language.
>>46110889
50$ for a book that has limited use is kinda meh, regardless of income.
yuan-ti dude here. Gotta go. Thanks for the help!
>>46115338
Poison Spray is a good cantrip, but the other racial cantrip is Thaumaturgy. I figure the cantrip should always be something like that; not something that you would use to cause damage, but something that would have some utility use.
If you wanted to, you could consider Animal Friendship (snakes) as the race's cantrip. It only works on snakes, after all, so it's a very specific version of the Animal Friendship spell. You have it as an at-will, which fits cantrip anyway.
>>46115448
High elves get any cantrip they want, though.
That kinda invalidates your point to a degree.
>>46115380
Then why do you want it so bad?
>>46115481
>still this mad over pretend weapon stats
We joke about autism a lot here, anon, but I'm afraid you might actually have it. A normal person would have let this go a long time ago.
>>46115481
I'd don't think I've ever seen anyone defend this
>>46115465
Hm, you're right.
It is a sub-race though, so maybe include a Yuan-ti subrace that gives them Poison Spray? The majority of my critique of the Yuan-ti race suggested comes from comparing it to the Tiefling and the Dark Elf, which are the only races I can think of that get racial spellcasting progression like how he wants, so I kind of ignored looking through the other races and seeing if they get cantrips.
third-party campaign settings
Has anyone taken a look at Primeval Thule from Sasquatch Studios, or the Borderlands Provinces from Frog God Games? There are hardly any reviews online even though both have been out for some time, at least in pdf form.
And yeah, if you've got pdfs, lets see 'em.
>>46115204
Thanks for the feedback!
>Dirty Fighting incentivizes you to take Grappler and try to grapple more frequently, so it might get some use, but grappling isn't normally as effective as flat attacking in my experience. Maybe this would change, but I dunno.
Yeah, it's meant to be so that if someone really wants to go grappler they can, should be situational but not too powerful if they don't. Still not sure if STR as a primary + expertise + sneak attacks on grappled targets will be a recipe for an overpowered mess.
>Look Behind You is pretty great, especially in a fluff sense, but I think there should be a qualifier at the end like "if the target is immune to being charmed (or some other type of DM discretion is advised if it doesn't make sense for the target to get distracted, like an automata of some kind), the ability fails".
Maybe "it must be able to understand your language"? "Living creature" as well?
>Hit Them While They're Down initially seems overpowered, but they get it at 17, so I'm mostly fine with it.
Capstones are really hard to do, on the one hand almost no one gets to see them in practice, but on the other hand but you want to make them enticing. It's like a carrot on a stick, "if I did get to high levels on this, would I feel like a badass." Thieves get two turns on the first round of combat, assassins get a chance to double their damage against surprised enemies (who they already auto-crit).
>>46115272
Gorgeous art there good for some characters, you got anymore?
>>46115556
>Still not sure if STR as a primary + expertise + sneak attacks on grappled targets will be a recipe for an overpowered mess.
It wouldn't until the guy took the Grappler feat. Even then, that bit comes down to "I can almost certainly take one guy out of the fight. Can you guys handle the rest?" I think it would be pretty good for a capture style, but, again, not many people I've played with have tried to go full grappler.
>Maybe "it must be able to understand your language"? "Living creature" as well?
How about an intelligence score? If it's below 6 or 4 or something, it fails? I mean, everyone humanoid would probably understand what someone looking slightly behind them, eyes widening in terror, and pointing while stammering means, regardless of language.
>>46115608
You can find a lot of good character art on Pinterest, believe it or not.
>>46114254
If you want pally rogue, go pally rogue, I don't see why you'd go fighter there as well. Might as well get barb too then for reckless attack since that essentially doubles your crit chance as well.
Can animal messenger be used on a druids animal companion? And if so, can I use minor illusion to imitate someone else's voice for said message?
>>46110713
Spells aren't static at all, you just need to cast them with higher level slots and they grow significantly. It's just not free anymore. Cantrips scale with character level increasing numbers of damage dice at about the same rate martials get multiple attacks.
>>46115789
Druids don't get animal companions. Animal Messenger can work on a beastmaster ranger's companion, but not on a familiar, because familiars are actually celestials, fiends, or fey rather than beasts.
And I'd rule that you have to be the one to say the message, but you could roll Deception to mimic someone else's voice.
>>46111476
At some point in April, according to their website. I expect July.
>>46115840
Since the spell sends the animal away to deliver your message for 24 hours, I could theoretically cast it on a rangers companion then and force him to lose it for 48 hours right?
>>46115909
If the ranger has a Tiny animal companion, yes. Anything larger, no. Animal Messenger only works on Tiny beasts.
>>46111996
Should be in the Mega.
>>46110845
Yes, you did.
>>46115909
>Choose a Tiny beast you can see
Unless you ranger took a pigeon you're out of luck.
>>46112912
If I run it, I'll probably print some out on cardstock, since I'm cheap and I can do it at work for free.
>>46115969
Flying snake is actually a semi decent pet. Main issue is that many things are immune to poison
>>46114847
That's...not a bad idea, actually.
>>46115543
I've got both, but only read Borderlands Provinces and the Northlands Saga from FGG.
The FGG stuff is pretty damn cool, especially the Northlands Saga, even if its for Pathfinder right now (Thule is slowly coming over to 5e, though).
What the fuck, Purpel Dragon Knights don't get a lvl 18 feature at all?
>>46116231
It's probably meant to be the improvement to Inspiring Surge.
>>46114847
I feel like I'm missing something here, but whats the big draw of this as opposed to Monk 6? Just the Battlemaster maneuvers?
>>46116290
That's kinda crap
Got a fluff question: where does the Oath of the Crown's magic come from? Do they just manifest spells out of sheer willpower, do the lawful gods grant them to anyone who swears the Oath, or what?
>>46116455
All paladin powers come from dedication to their oath.
>>46116455
The Oath itself. It's a magic thing.
It doesn't necessarily come from the Gods, though it can.
So Cubicle 7 (the team behind The One Ring RPG) have said they're making a Middle Earth 5E conversion with the OGL. Anyone else excited about this?
Are there a lot of homebrew/TPP 5e classes/archetypes? Most of the default ones seem really boring.
inb4
>have you played every archetype to level 20
No but I don't need to eat shit to know why you're squatting over my plate.
>>46116357
At 6 there's not as much of a difference I guess, but especially later the extra attacks, ASIs, fighting style, action surge sound pretty good.
>>46116554
There are a ton of them. Most of them aren't very good at all.
If none of the core player content interests you, maybe you're better off playing something else? Not meant as a snarky comment, but legitimately.
>>46116554
I'm not sure what homebrew classes look like, but if they're anything like the official ones they'll be lame as a mule too.
>Oh boy I'm level X
>Oh, it's fucking nothing
>>46116510
So, basically anyone can be magic simply by wanting it hard enough?
On the one hand, that's kinda cool, but it basically means nothing stops someone from being a Paladin if they want to be one, doesn't it?
>>46116526
Eh. I'll get my hopes up when I see some mechanics for it.
>>46116597
No, they have to take an Oath. The Oath is binding, and if you violate it, you lose your powers and either become a magic-less Paladin or an Oathbreaker.
>>46116597
Determination, mental strength, a sense of purpose.And most importantly, 13 charisma and strength.
>>46110889
I want to, but i'm not from USA and my FLGS is not going to import it because besides me, D&D players will not drop a dime for the fucking hobby.
So yes, I'd like at least a LQ scan...at least to join the fun....
>>46116588
Hey man, you got a SWEET NEW SPECIFIC ABILITY
that can be used once a day.
>>46116623
Yes, but that still means that no higher power is giving you magic. What stops any random peasant who dreams of being a Paladin from taking the Oath and becoming one?
What happens if a vampire bites a Aasimar? Anything? A Paladin/cleric?
Can people throw a javelin into a vampire's chest and have it work as a stake?
>>46116455
>>46116510
Basically if you look into Evola's few on Chivary etc, you can pretty much believe that the Crown's Oath allows you to tap into powers of Tradition, which itself from a spiritual level above man
>>46116661
Isn't the 'stake' written as just any wooden piercing weapon?
A javelin could work. Although the tip is probably metal and not wood.
>>46116646
>tfw double carrying capacity and 11 hit points
>thats it
>thats the level
>>46116554
There isn't a load of room for new classes really. I mean thematically, it's hard to think of any strong fantasy archetype that isn't already represented.
But subclasses there's loads of room for. They're also the only additional player content that's gotten official releases, other than races and spells. I don't think they've even released additional feats officially. (Maybe a deep gnome racial feat?) I for one am also working on multiple new subclasses at the moment.
>>46116655
I mean, sure? If a peasant is so dedicated to the cause of righteousness, they could become a paladin. But not every paladin is, and just wanting power like this is likely to fuck up any attempt to dedicate themselves to that oath.
>>46116588
Maybe you should be playing pathfinder or something if you want a big pile of abilities and subsystems?
>>46116736
>You don't want shitty half-features so go play caster simulator bad rules edition
>>46116818
Why are you even in this thread
>>46116655
Nothing. If the Peasant has dedication and a group of Paladins train him and allow him to take the Oath, that means he's worthy of being a Paladin.
You could say the same thing about Wizards. All they've gotta do is pick up a book on magic and spend time learning about how it works. If the Peasant had enough dedication and really wanted to be a Wizard, he could.
>>46116732
Well, obviously not everyone will have the drive or commitment to take the Oath. I just wondered if there was anything more that might stand in the way of some random nobody who really wanted to be a Paladin from taking the Oath. Like, would the Oath have to be sworn in the presence of a representative of the Crown to count (for OoC)?
>>46116818
I think there's a sliding scale between minimalism and imbalance.
>>46116720
>There isn't a load of room for new classes really.
I just want an official Shaman because my DM doesn't like homebrew
>>46113541
This is actually pretty interesting, good music for a splash too.
I probably wouldn't have the times strahd encountered there until he had shown up at least twice, but that's just me.
I'm particularly liking the Current Objectives bit. Do you make that, or do you ask the party what they consider their current objective to be?
Also if you don't save it each time the CO changes it would be a tragedy.wait, doesn't COS start at 3rd level
So I'm DMing tomorrow, session 2, and I forgot to prepare... I'm pretty nervous tbqhwu senpai.
>>46116855
You would presumably need to be trained by a Paladin or order of Paladins to become one, especially since the Oath isn't something you can just swear upon. Levels 1-3 of Paladin are literal training to take the Oath. You can't just take up a sword, do some reading, and bam, you're a Paladin. It's much the same for most other classes, I would imagine.
>>46116585
>maybe you're better off playing something else?
You might be right. I really like the trappings of 5E, the advantage/disadvantage core mechanic and the way the whole game just feels fast. The rules aren't bloated and complicated like 3.PF, they're actually FUN (to me at least).
But the classes just aren't appealing and that kills a huge part of what makes an RPG fun for me and my players. It's already hard enough to drag them away from Pathfinder; guess we'll be playing a lot more FFG SW.
>>46116588
My problem with 5E classes is most of the abilities aren't that useful outside of specific circumstances and there just isn't enough to go around. There's too much "roll to attack roll to attack roll to attack."
Also in my experience players really like the sense of ownership that comes with customizing their character's actual gameplay. They don't like knowing their character plays identically to everyone else, even if there are no similar characters in the party. That's one thing FFG SW does really well, lot's of choice for how to make your character.
>>46116888
>ownership that comes with customizing their character's actual gameplay
You want a classless system, then. Something like WoD or Shadowrun or Traveller (to a lesser extent).
>>46116885
Okay, that's more what I wanted to know. Thanks.
Started playing on Thursday, made my druid (thanks to the other thread for the tips).
I feel like the odd man out in my group, but I'm not minding a whole lot. They're the general pretty greedy kinda folk (a Tiefling that can't resist the urge to con, a half-elf that got cursed after stealing an emerald from a drow palace), and my guy is this cooperative druid man, who just wants to help and learn, man.
Def. interested in seeing how it plays out. One of the guys is a slight bit of a jerk (plays a paladin), in that 'stereotypical' internet way ("PC master race" when vidya is mentioned, quick to throw a "Kill Bill wtf? Are you stupid?" when I mentioned that one of the DM's descriptions was like the end of KB2, that kinda thing)
Should b fun. Gonna finish my charsheet until thursday.
>>46116888
Have you tried Shadow of the Demon Lord? I got links if you need em @ https://mega.nz/#F!axkmmbKT!NKiex_659PAGOlaKBbukFA
It's very much inspired by 5e (uses banes/boons, which are like advantage/disad, but not qutie) and I really like its class setup, it's sort of like Warhammer 2e. You pick a 'base' class and then essentially you stamp on 2 other classes to your level progression, in a manner similar to archetypes but they can be 100% unrelated to your base class. Warrior base? Sure, grab the Warlock 'expert', etc.
Alternatively, yeah, find something classless. I don't really like classes, myself. Too restrictive, end up with all this weird shit to get what you want or you just have to deal with it.
>>46116879
Thanks!
I suppose I can see what you mean with the encounters but it's not like my players are unaware of him...Maybe I'll remove that one.
I make it if the objective is pretty clear, if it wasn't I wold ask them.
I will be making a backlist of the objectives to keep track if that's what you mean.CoS can start at 3rd level or you can run Death House which goes 1-3 which I am doing. It's a bit railroady but I think it'll be fun.
>>46114287
You should really get a mega so people don't have to completely download the zip every change
Like the sheet, though.
Can a Gate spell access the Far Realm?
>>46116997
Well it says any plane of existence. On pg 302 the Far Realms are listed under "Other planes."
Maybe? Yes? I'd probably allow it, but it'd be unwise to open a gate to it.
>>46116878
Ok, tell me what the core of a shaman is. What are the absolutely required things for an archetypal shaman? What sets a shaman apart from other spellcasters?
>>46116997
Yes, but good luck getting a tuning fork attuned to the Far Realm.
>>46117080
Thanks for the advice.
So then you should also be able to get there with a plane shift if you can find the right tuning fork (which might require its own adventure), right?
>>46117115
Tuning forks are only used for plane shift.
>>46117138
Well there's shit on my face, then.
>>46111618
http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Worth_Wollpert
>>46112188
Take Pact of the Tome and use Shilelagh.
>>46116597
>So, basically anyone can be magic simply by wanting it hard enough?
> it basically means nothing stops someone from being a Paladin if they want to be one, doesn't it?
All one needs to do to get fit is go to the gym three times a week. Don't even need to change the way you eat. And yet not everyone you see is jacked.
>>46116597
>So, basically anyone can be magic simply by wanting it hard enough?
Yeah, but most people don't want it hard enough. Otherwise they'd sacrifice more to do it.
>>46116691
I just want to not have to deal with the headache of Strahd appearing and immediately being staked...not that I remember off the top of my head what that actually does to a vampire in 5e but I can see a certain pain in my ass player doing this and making Strahd look like a bitch
>>46117451
Stake to the Heart. If a piercing weapon made of wood is driven into the vampire's heart while the vampire is incapacitated in its resting place, the vampire is paralyzed until the stake is removed.
MM 297.
>>46117508
Oh ok then, thanks for that. Isn't a problem I suppose then.
Since you were really fast on the uptake there, do you know if a vampire suffers any negative effects from biting/drinking from a paladin or cleric or aasimar?
>>46114755
The fuck is a "free action"?
>>46117561
It doesn't exist, nor do "at-wills"
>>46117560
No. Their vampire-specific weaknesses are running water (20 acid damage if they end their turn in it), can't enter a house unless invited by someone inside, the stake thing, sunlight (magical or not, 20 radiant damage if it starts its turn in it, and disadvantage on attack roles and ability checks).
Devil's Sight doesn't let you see into Hunger of Hadar according to Jeremy Crawford, but does truesight? Blindsense?
>>46117707
Ok thanks anon!
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.xcp?id=WOTC5ECOS
It's literally on Fantasy Grounds. How is there not a PDF up yet?
Also, yes I am a poorfag.
>>46117739
But it literally says it lets you see into magical darkness.
Is HoH like, super-magical darkness?
>>46117763
HoH is apparently not magical darkness. It can't be dispelled or seen inside with spells like Daylight or even Sunburst.
>>46117379
That's a great analogy actually.
>>46117763
>>46117802
"Devil's Sight is meant to pierce the dark created by a spell like darkness, not the void of hunger of Hadar."
https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/704828756616044544
>>46117763
Nowhere in HoH does it say that the area is darkened, it says that creatures fully inside it are blinded. So no, truesight would not function, but blindsense would.
>>46117379
manlet detected
>>46117802
Well I guess it does say "blackness" not darkness, so it might be just like...a black hole void type of deal. So there's nothing to see, no matter no how.
Truesight probably wouldn't work, then. I dunno about blindsense. Might still not, cause void nullifying everything, but it depends on how the blindsense works.
>>46117837
Yeah I misread "blackness" as "darkness"
>>46117508
So stake it, put it in a box, ship it to the desert where there's no cover for miles and open it just after dawn?
>>46117863
Well, you can't really leave Barovia but Strahd is CR 15
>>46117854
Well, according to this, you're just straight up blind. Blindsight would probably work, you would just be able to see the horrible oily tentacles writhing around you.
>A 20-foot-radius sphere of blackness and bitter cold appears, centered on a point with range and lasting for the duration.
So it seems to have two effects. Blinding and blocking light from one side to the other.
>>46117837
>>46117854
I think I'll rule that truesight won't work inside, because the light is actively being devoured, but blindsense and tremorsense will both still work since they don't rely on sight.
Thanks for the help everyone!
>>46113921
I chuckled, worth all 4 clicks it took to make this.
>>46117880
Alright, I'll just set him on fire then.
