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SOI SPOILER THREAD: MEMEDECK INCOMING EDITION
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We WB warriors nao
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If you don't have Eerie Interlude in your deck you're doing it wrong nerd
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>>46093972

new and improved list, now with 200% more Legendary Vampiress Waifus!
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You wanna go back to posting about Pumas and Craterhoof you big goonch?
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>>46094074
Where your Sinister Concoctions at, vampbro?
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Play Flameblade Angel for her, anon.
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>yfw not playing Standard Burn

2x Molten Vortex
4x Axe Lightning
4x Twin Bolt
4x Fiery Temper
4x Reality Hemorrhage
4x Tormenting Voice
4x Kozilek's Return
4x Harness The Storm
4x Touch of The Void
4x Exquisite Firecraft
22x Mountain

Come the fuck on! It's two thousand and fucking sixteen already!
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>>46094183
I.... I want to test this out now.
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>>46094074
Where dat haste enabling at?
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>>46094263
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So we've seen pretty much all of the goodies vampires are going to get.

Are we going to expect the other tribal decks to be anywhere near as good or is vampire guaranteed to the meme deck of this quarter?
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>>46094263
it's called discarding with madness at eot.
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>>46094321
It looks like Wolves and spirits got the short end of the stick, humans have the most cards to work with, zombies have the strongest enablers, and vampires have the most synergy.
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>>46094321
vampires are guaranteed meme deck. the question is whether humans can make WW viable again, or if it continues to fall just short of worthwhile.
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>>46094349
We have barely seen any spirits. Rattlechains is guaranteed to see play in a couple of modern decks trying out spirit tribal and there's that Zada-Silverfur combo for standard that some people are considering.

I'm personally uneasy about DIregraf Colossus, considering that it has bad synergy with Restless Dead.
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>>46094414
>bad synergy with Restless Dead.
how do you figure? restless dead recurs to hand, along with the other creature, allowing you to play more zombie spells and get more tokens. just because it doesn't stick in the yard to pump the colossus?
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>>46094321

Werewof Tribal needs either an instant effect that transforms them and then buffs them like pic related for an alpha strike, or a triggered effect that does something crazy every time they flip and flop to be viable.

I like the lord quite a bit, but Human tribal looks kind of weak so far, even though that are some neat cards from the past sets that count as human.

We still haven't seem any pushed Spirits and Zombies besides those so far. Topplegeist is cute, but the archytpe needs more support I think.
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>>46094458
oh wait, the X cost doesn't go to hand, my mistake. still, you can restless dead your colossus into play if someone tries to stop token shenanigans. seems fine to me.
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4 Topplegeist
4 Rattlechains
4 ???
4 Bygone Bishop
4 Reflector Mage
3 Ojutai's Command
3 Archangel Avacyn
4 Declaration in Stone
1 Negate
4 Epiphany at the Drownyard
4 Meandering River
4 Prairie Stream
4 ???
2 Mage Ring Network
2 Foundry of the Consuls
1 Blighted Cataract
4 Island
4 Plains

Just need one more 2 drop ghost and the new ally dual lands to get spoiled
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>>46094458
>>46094482
Maybe the bad synergy comment was incorrect then. But I do fear for the use of Diregraf Colossus is zombie tribal's shtick is play-from-graveyard stuff.
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>>46094539
>ally dual lands
ha ha, you funny guy.

September. At the earliest.
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>>46094321
>Human Tribal
Been out of standard since INN/RTR, but I've been looking to hit up some FNMs with a cheap deck. This seems playable:
(Standard) White Weenie:

Creatures: 30
4 Kytheon, Hero of Akros
4 Dragon Hunter
4 Expedition Envoy
4 Consul's Lieutenant
4 Knight of the White Orchid
4 Thalia's Lieutenant
4 Hidden Dragonslayer
2 Master of Pearls

Other Spells: 8
4 Celestial Flare
4 Eternal Vigil

Lands: 22
22 Plains
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>>46094335
Touché, anonbro
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Who /sorta storm/ here

I'm really excited to brew with this and Brain in a Jar together
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>>46094634
100% chance we are getting rare ally dual lands in SOI
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>>46094707
Don't play with my emotions, anon
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>>46094793
Anyone who thinks there won't be ally lands at rare is stupid
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>>46094884
they just had ally lands in BfZ, if anything there will be enemy lands for after the origins rotation takes the painlands with it. or they could just not have 10+ duals in standard. that's a thing they're allowed to do.
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>>46094983
You are retarded. Pay attention to the duals that we have had in standard. Theros rotated out all ten duals, and BFZ brought in ten duals. DTK and ORI have 5 enemy duals. Oath and SOI have ten uncommon duals. SOI is rotating out KTK which had ally duals, so it will replace them.

Enemy: painlands + manlands + unc lands
Ally: battlelands + unc lands

So ally lands are definitely happening in SOI
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>>46094983
Why not reprints of ally colored painlands then?
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>>46094983
Maybe ally painlands that don't cost life if you control [insert tribe here].
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>>46095049
There's ally duals in BFZ you cockmongler.
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>>46095075
Did you not read the post?
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>>46095069
>tribal duals
pls no.
>>46095057
they can't reprint painlands without going to dominaria. painlands are either dead, or they get functional reprints, which wouldn't be bad but could be awkward.

>>46095049
I forgot manlands, I thought you meant good duals.
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>>46095135
Manlands are by far the most powerful lands in standard. Enemy colored decks will actually have a slight advantage unless the new ally duals do something in the late game
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>>46094698
Few copies of this in existing Pyromancer Ascension deck will be fun, or overkill.
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>>46094698
>Harness the Storm
>Brain in a Jar
>Mirrorpool
>all casting any buff on a Stormchaser Mage with buff of same name in the yard

Standard Storm is coming, my niggas
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>>46094263
On Olivia?
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>>46094349
>spirits barely got anything
>two of the best cards on the set
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>>46095372

rattlechains is an enabler at best. Topplegeist demands to be built around to some extent to get really annoying. Not bad by any mean, but hardly the best cards on the set.
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>>46095412
An enabler at best?

I'm sorry but I read 'counter target spot removal and put a 2/1 flyer on the battlefield at instant speed for 1U'

Even if other spirits prove to be mediocre, that might make them playable by itself.
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Off spoilers so far, which cards would you invest?

Rattlechains seems like a good bet.
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>>46095609
Elusive Tormentor will probably take off
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>>46095241
Brain is going to be fun when it gets online for higher CMC spells

And you can run off-color instants/sorceries

>dropping big green shit in UR for 1 mana
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>>46095609
I've already order twelve playsets of Flameblade Angel, waiting for the price to soar when everyone realizes what they're missing.
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>>46095760
>flameblade angel
enjoy pissing away that money anon.
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>>46095515
>>46095609

I'm just not seeing it. He's good: 2/1 flier flash with that can protect itself or another creature from spot removal the turn he's cast for only 1U, but he's low impact and the only spirit that is good enough by itself I see being played regularly is geist of saint traft.
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>>46095609
Lieutenant, Colossus and Partisan.
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>>46095826
I'm pretty sure anon was being facetious, anon
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>>46094183
>lightning axe
>kozilek's return

This is not burn.
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>>46095980
Lightning Axe gets better when Madness is involved

No idea on Kozilek's Return
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>>46095844

Morph doesn't count as being 'cast'
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>>46096009
What if you swapped it out for structural distortion?
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>>46095980

I don't think there any other direct damage spell in currently in Standard for you to have 36 of them in your deck. Lightning axe is one of two ways to cast fiery temper for its Madness cost and a manner to control the board since you'll never get to kill your opponent quickly enough with 3 mana burn spells. Kozilek's Return is just a board wipe, Anger of the gods or pyroclasm would be better, so you con't die turn 4-5 against aggro decks. The deck was a joke.
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>>46096166
Maybe run dance with devils and devil's playground along with the demon land for a bit of burning aggro, also what I said >>46096164
burn out their mana base as well as their life?
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>>46093972
This vampire-madness-aggro deck idea just uses too many bad cards. It's undoubtedly going to be the meme deck of this standard season, but the actual good deck to come out of these pieces is going to be RB midrange. Maybe RBx, but definitely midrange.
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>>46093972
could avaricious dragon work as a top of the curve in b/r vampires? it seems like it
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>>46094637
Master of pearls rotates out
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>>46096490
madness doesn't make avaricious dragon better. you still have to dump your hand at eot, losing any possibility to respond to things and any answer to it leaves you with no hand and no extra gas in the topdeck war. madness debatably makes it worse, as you also need more mana before you can profitably play the dragon, since you have to discard the turn you play him, and you can't even madness him out because he's not a vampire.
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>>46096551
Yeah I agree that the dragon isn't that good, it needs too much mana to be able to salvage the hand due to madness.
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>>46096490
Curve topper should be Elusive Tormentor
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>>46096415
Yeah. With Olivia, Drana and Fiery Temper, you can deal 10 damage on t4 easily.
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I'm really liking this set, lots of good uncommons and support for Zombies. Its a pleasant breath of fresh air after all the low power sets we have been getting
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>>46094263
>Strictly better Vampire Interloper
I want the power creep to stop
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>>46096721
>>46096415
This. Drana have doubled her price from 7 to 14 since Olivia is spoiled.
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>>46096861
>bought a playset when Gorger was spoiled
Feels good
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>>46093972
>If you're not surrounded by decadence, my question to you is - why not?
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>>46096510
Yeah, looks like he does.
I could just replace him with a couple Topan Freeblades or something, or I could try a Relic Seeker package with a few copies of pic related.
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>>46096919
Stoneforge is really good for tribal. I'd put 4 in with some Seekers.
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>>46094307
[...] that wolf.
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>>46096919
I hope token decks are a thing in the coming Standard.
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>>46097472
There's that token copier spell that was spoiled today, signs point to probably
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>>46097472
>>46097506
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>>46094307
She looks my mom when she was young.
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>>46097516
Wouldn't this rotate out? Or how does Standard rotation work now?
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>>46097516
It's going to be hilarious when the token deck has a 9/9 token equipped with Stoneforge Masterwork, and it still ends up dying to Virulent Plague.
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>>46097592
Khans is rotating out Dragons is not.
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>>46097592
soi will rotate khans and fate. next block will rotate dragons and origins. then a new block rotates out the oldest block, khans is just weird because of the last hurrah if the three set block
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>>46097558
Which side?
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>>46097592
SoI standard is:
>Dragons of Tarkir
>Origins
>Battle for Zendikar
>Oath of the Gatewatch
>Shadows over Innistrad
>Eldritch Moon

The next standard season will be:
>Battle for Zendikar
>Oath of the Gatewatch
>Shadows over Innistrad
>Eldritch Moon
>"Lock"
>"Stock"

Then:
>Shadows over Innistrad
>Eldritch Moon
>"Lock"
>"Stock"
>"Barrel"
>"Laughs"

And so on.
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>>46097640
you're stupid
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>>46097666
You're face is stupid
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>>46097640
No. Right now standard is
>Dragons
>Origins
>BFZ
>OGW
>SOI

After Eldritch Moon comes out, rotation is

>BFZ
>OGW
>SOI
>Eldritch
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nothing is going to rotate with eldrich moon. they rotate on new blocks, not the second set of a block.
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>>46097705
you're also a moron. don't post if you don't know jackshit.
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>>46097634
Left. As she ages she looks more like the right.
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>>46097744
When I said next standard season, I meant at the beginning of the next block.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AXe0ZR5bhU

So I'm correct after all.
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>>46097616
And how would it manage that?
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>>46097759
I heard from conflicting sources that it was either 3 blocks or 2 blocks, and then a fucking Judge told me that was how it was rotating. If you want to post a source of the correct answer instead of being a vitriolic shit, please, go right ahead. If not, go kill yourself.

>>46097798
Thank you.
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>>46097798
I was replying to
>>46097705
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>>46097804
Blows up the other tokens giving the passive bonus from Stoneforge Masterwork.
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>>46097804
all the little shits died
the dude in the armor isn't very big if his little troupe of shits isn't backing him up.
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>>46097804
>have 9 1/1s
>1 of them has masterwork on
>now 9/9
>play plague
>8 1/1s becomes -1/-1s, 9/9 becomes 7/7
>state-based actions kill 8 tokens, 7/7 is now -1/-1.
>state-based actions kill -1/-1
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>>46097832
again, if you're un fucking sure, or know fuck all, don't fucking post like you know fucking shit.
source? that one dude up there already posted the right one. the one before the fucking moron on top of yours.
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>>46097804
The Stoneforge Masterwork is powered by other tokens sharing a creature type with the equipped creature. They all die to Virulent Plague. The equipped creature is no longer big. It also dies to Virulent Plague.
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>>46097881
I think you've called just about everyone stupid when you're the one misunderstanding what everyone else is saying.
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>>46097967
>misunderstanding

>>46097621
the right one

>>46097640
fucking moron

>>46097705
fucking moron number 2
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>>46098104
But >>46097621 and >>46097640 say the same thing.
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>>46098104
but >>46097621 and >>46097640 are the same rotation.
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>>46094307
WILF seems like a reasonable enough card, but I really like the flavor that's implied by her mechanical design. She actually has total control over her werewolf transformation, unlike basically every other werewolf that we know about.

I assume that's what being 'embraced by the moon' means.
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>>46098214
has it actually been stated that she's an innistrad native? she could've just adopted innistrad's werewolves and not actually be under the same curse.
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>>46098238
>Arlinn Kord is a tormented werewolf, originally from Avabruck, who has a gift unique among her kind: she is a Planeswalker.

>Arlinn was a teenager when the howls of the Mondronen werewolf pack summoned her into the forest and she completed her First Hunt. She always fought against the change, and used Avacynian charms, prayers, and fasting to ward it off as much as possible. She even studied magic in the church, becoming an Archmage of Goldnight while successfully hiding her curse from her teachers and mentors—until the night came when she couldn't contain the change any longer and she killed several hierarchs before her spark ignited and she found herself rampaging through the woods of another plane.

>To her horror, she regained her senses in the morning—but not her human form. For better or worse, the experience of retaining her human mind in wolf form gave her a new appreciation for the wild spirit that shared her body. The only way she could return to her human form was to planeswalk back to Innistrad, but now she finds that she can control the transformation, in both directions, with relative ease. And though she is still horrified by the slaughter she wrought in the church, she is embracing the power she wields in wolf form as a natural complement to her magic.

>Above all else, Arlinn is desperate to ensure the survival of her kind. She has come to think of herself as part of the pack. And in a world where Avacyn either cursemuted or killed hundreds of werewolves, and where the angel's church is launching a new inquisition more terrifying than anything they've done before, Arlinn fears that if she does not act, the lycanthropes of Innistrad could meet a very real and permanent end very soon.
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>>46098276
>Arlinn fears that if she does not act, the lycanthropes of Innistrad could meet a very real and permanent end very soon.
So she's going to make her own Avacyn for werewolves. Yawn.
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Am I meme-y yet?

4 Falkenrath Gorger
4 Heir of Falkenrath
4 Ravenous Bloodseeker
3 Olivia
3 Drana
3 Incorrigible Youths
4 Indulgent Aristocrat/Elusive Tormentor

4 Lightning Axe
4 Fiery Temper
4 Sinister Concoction
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>>46098238
Yeah she probably came from Gilneas.
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>>46098490
Why are people including Indulgent Aristocrats in a deck where you'll be spending every last drop of mana on vampires?
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>>46098537
Because it's a 1 mana Vampire you can drop with Madness if you've got a Gorger on the field?
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>>46098276
Interesting, so is this implying werewolves from Innistrad need the particular influence of the Innistrad moon to change?

I guess she'll be fucked if it hatches into the reborn Phyrexian Marit-rakul or whatever the hell they're doing with eldritch moon.
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>>46098537
I figured it'll draw removal away from my higher profile vamps, plus I can sac it to boost the vamps on the field if they kill it.

If that don't work, I guess imma put in elusive tormentors
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>>46098619
Why not Asylum Visitor?
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>>46098573
it seems more like some influence on innistrad is what makes the transformation involuntary, strips sense from the victims and guessing from the UR with arlinn, what makes it painful and gruesome. without that influence they can just turn it on and off, she might've just needed to go back to innistrad because she walked with it "on" due to the curse. once she walked back the curse ran ta course and now she's in full control. buttfucking the moonmonster might just leave every werewolve in charge of how and when they hulk out.
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Have there been any hints pertaining to the return of Garruk? If the cursemute was broken, you'd think he'd want to figure out why he's fucking pissed again.
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>>46098723
Liliana mentions him in passing in the latest story other than that nothing.
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>>46098723
no, he has a hedron in his head keeping him mostly level, as of I think duels 2015, one of the duels games main story was him and ob trading hedrons. the cursemute only gave him a brief moment of lucidity anyway.
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>>46096858
Interloper is a common, this is uncommon!
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>>46098723
>Garruk in the set
>Liliana in the set.
Choose one, we don´t want to trigger sjw´s after all.

For a more serious answer, no there has been no hint for his return. He is probably in a later set, if he ever returns at all. The secnd(?) walker for eldritch moon is probably tamiyo.
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>>46098696
Thought about her. What do I remove though?
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>>46098798
why not 7?
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>>46098822
Indulgent Aristocrat or Ravenous Bloodseeker.
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>>46098836
Because that would be to many walkers in one block. There needs to be space for other cards after all.

But given wizards´ track record... It´s maaaybe a possibility.
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>>46098865
Bloodseeker I had to keep for Madness, I guess Aristocrat can get cut
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>>46098942
I would say it's a definite possibility with all the Super Friends tech lying around.

And not just because I'm still holding a candle for Tibalt.
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>>46098942
yea, i would totally dislike it, but I just cannot be sure they won't do it
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>>46095241
Won't be anywhere near as fun as the Burn at the Stake deck from Innistrad/RtR standard, though.
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>>46098981
>for Madness
You have Heir, Olivia, Lightning Axe and Sinister Concoction for that. You could swap something out for Tormenting Voice if you like for even more madness enabling. Point stands, you've got more than enough.
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>>46097764
I fucking love Avacyn.
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>>46094173
Visual Storytelling Cliche #7 ~ Redheads are ALWAYS hot-tempered. Always.
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So, between bfz, ogw and soi could mardu vampires be viable?
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>>46099802
The largest problem with Mardu vamps is White is only giving you Drana's Emissary and Cliff Haven Vampire, while mono-black has both Drana herself and Kalitas who fit into RB vamps no problem. Not to mention the loss of fetches makes hitting three colors a hell of lot harder. You're better off just sticking with RB.
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>>46099802
Forget vampire aggro. RB Midrange, anon. RB Midrange.
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>>46099996
That´s a shame, but thanks, will be sticking to rb then. I hope I get all the pieces at the prerealese weekend.

>>46100001
Err, thanks. I´ll see what I can get.
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>>46100001
Lemme see dat list, vampire bro
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I hope you've got your playset before they spike
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>>46100687
They're garbage
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>>46100733
>turn 2 dragon tempest
>turn 3 drana with haste
>turn 4 avaricious dragon/ with haste
>trun 5 inverter of truth

woooow
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>>46100687
They're not gonna

Drana, on the other hand
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>>46094321
>Colossus
>2/2
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>>46101012
>+1/+1 counter for each zombie card in your graveyard

How do you not understand the logic of it being built out of corpses, to the point where it can be utterly massive at certain points in the game?
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Shouldn't there be more spoilers today?
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>>46098490
>>46094074
>>46093972

No Kalitas?
No Removal? The new concoction thing is good with Madness.
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>>46100495
Work in progress, as SoI isn't completely spoiled yet. But I'm thinking something along these lines:

4x Gorger
4x Asylum Visitor
3x Drana
3x Olivia
3x Kalitas
4x Goblin Dark-Dwellers
4x Lightning Axe
4x Fiery Temper
4x K-Command
3x Ruinous Path

I'm hoping for a sick madness killspell to replace ruinous path, but we'll see.
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>>46101601
Kalitas doesn't enable Madness
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Thalia's Lieutenant looks great.
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>>46101757
And?

He's the best Vampire in Standard.
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>>46101908
but what does he add to the deck besides himself
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>>46101997
Some cards don't need to add anything but themselves. Kalitas is goodstuff that benefits from other cards in the same deck, even if those cards don't benefit from Kalitas.

It's better to have Kalitas in your deck than say, Ravenous Bloodseeker which is so obviously mediocre.
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>>46101997
Its the msot powerful of avalible cards for the deck while still retaining meaningufl syngeriges (can be madnessed with gorger or buffed with aristocrat)
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>>46101751
I thought of kalitas too, but since I'm aggroing it up, i thought he was kinda slow
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>>46102376
That's why I said forget aggro, go midrange. Turn all of your killspells into zombies. Shock a dude and madness a card with k-command, then do it again with dark-dwellers. Then Drana makes them all bigger. Fun times.
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>>46102453
Imma consider it anonbro. Can't wait to test for battle data so I know which route to take
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So, no new thalia?
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>>46102780
She dead
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>>46101895
Also leaves some hope that Thalia's not going all RAPEMAIMKILL, and that if she's big enough a deal to have a Lieutenant at rare she'll be a solid mythic in the next set.

I just don't want her to be Linvala 2.0 all over again.
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>>46102780
There's another full week of spoilers, and she was namedropped in a card. I'd say that a new Thalia is looking more and more likely.
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>>46102780
we will see her as a vampire in the second set
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>>46102834
>Ruining a perfect white weenie waifu
plz don't
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>>46102780
There's another week of spoilers and another set.
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>>46102853
itss true my uncle works at wizards
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>>46102942
Say your uncle to take pics
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>>46102780
Maybe with Avacyn first gone crazy and then gone for good people start looking to Thalia for protection and she ascends from guardian of Thraben to Guardian of Innistrad in the next set
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>>46102963
OK I will say him to take pics
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>>46102994
That's what I've figured since crazy angels were revealed to be a thing.
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>>46094637
I am looking to build something similar.
2 Kytheon
4 dragon hunter
4 expedition envoy
4 Knight of the white orchard
4 hidden dragonslayer
4 consuls lieutenant
4 Thalia's lieutenant
2 relic seeker
2 arashin foremost
2 stoneforge masterwork
4 anthem
4 declaration in stone
20 plains
This is all contingent on whatever else gets revealed but right now I think it's the best humans list. Would love feedback.
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>>46101751
>tfw too poor to buy Kalitas and K-Command
Atleast I can buy 2 Drana and 2 Olivia ;_;
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>>46094321
Silverfur partisan is deceptively good.

It belongs in some sort of weird RUG delver shell with a couple of good prowess creatures and shitton of cantrips like brute strength and experdite. Which the current standard doesn't support because the cantrips that exist are too shitty.
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>>46094183
Lightning Axe and Fiery Temper go hand in hand actually. This isn't bad.
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>>46103155
I guess another possibility would be arlinn forming the wolfwatch or something, so that the werewolf under her command can go all nolan trilogy Dark Night on the good people of Innistrad and fight the vamps and demons from the shadows - since the humans wouldn't accept them as proper heroes
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>>46094321
Going to play standard for white weenies
do you think it will be gut? what cards from origins/oath/gatewatch should i get?
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>>46094183
Get rid of Kozilek's Return and replace it with anything
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>>46103349
Werewolves* and Dark Knight* of course
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>>46094183
>not playing molten vortex and 56 mountains.dec
>2008+8
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Try and tell me this isn't the sweetest version of RDW ever

>4x Pyromancer's Goggles
>4x Harness the Storm
>4x Vial of Volatility

>4x Magmatic Insight
>4x Tormented Thoughts
>4x Fiery Temper

>4x Dragon Fodder
>4x Dance with Devils
>4x Devils' Playground

>3x Westvale Abbey
>3x Drownyard Temple
>18x Mountain
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>>46104384
needs more Lightning Axe
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>>46095609
Duskwatch Recruiter
Village Messenger
Falkenrath Gorger
Olivia, Mobilized for War
Relentless Dead
Anguished Unmaking
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>>46097764
>>46099363

Is that Avacyn though, or a new Gisela?
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>>46097506
If people could manage to stick 5 Eldrazi Scions and cast Second Harvest at opponent's EoT then they could ramp into Ulamog or get more fodder for Zulaport Cutthroat
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>>46104487
>white hair
>spear
are you dumb
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Thalia's Lieutenant is a girl.
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>>46102994
>>46103155
The other possibility is that she's at the head of the inquisition.
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Rattlechains made my Modern spirit brew good

Yay
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>>46105729
could just be a dude with some wicked curls
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>>46104487
are you kidding
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Guys, I'm going to the Prerelease on the second
what do I do other than make a shitty deck and get steamrolled?
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VAMPIRES

Aggro or Midrange?
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>>46106160
MIDRANGE
I
D
R
A
N
G
E
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>B/R has basically no planeswalker representation
>Literally the perfect chance to turn Sorin B/R
>Make him unplayable B/W
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>>46097797
what a shitty thing to say about your mom.
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>>46106182

That's what I thought. Aggro is really damn easy to shut down, especially with Kozilek's Return in the format
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>>46106059
Make a shitty deck and get steamrolled
have fun, anon.
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>>46106059
I haven't been to a prerelease in a long while, but I used to listen to Limited Resources before each one to get in the mood.
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All this madness is making me want to finally make a fun Masticore casual deck.
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>>46105975
Post list faggot.
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>>46106243

All these aggro madness decks are pretty delusional, they're just setting themselves up to get hoard wiped and have no cards in hand turn 5.

>But muh 3/1 that draws cards
Your 3/1 can literally be removed by ANYTHING
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>>46106512
It can't be doom bladed!
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>>46106512
How many boardwipes in standard right now?
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>>46106512
>no cards in hand by turn 5
You're supposed to win by turn 5
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>>46106870
There are a bunch, but a few of them rotate soon.
Kosi's Return
Radiant Flames
Tragic Arrogance
Planar Outburst
End Hostilities
Crux of fate
Languish
Crush of Tentacles
Ugin
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>>46106870

CMC 2
Boiling Earth (1 damage kills just about every meme vampire)

CMC 3
Flaying Tendrils
Radiant Flames
Kozilek's return

CMC 4
Languish

CMC 5
Planar Outburst
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What's The Gitrog Toad?
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>>46107086
All the lynchpins other than Gorger dodge Boiling Earth at least
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>>46107117
A new legend that hopefully won't be a wasted mythic/rare. Personally I'm hoping it's BG
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>>46106512
How BW warriors survived this long DESPITE all these boardwipes existing must've been a fluke
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>>46107367
What else would it be
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>>46107507
I think it's a placeholder for the real big bad in the ocean since this shit looks like a Chub Toad.
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>>46107658
I wouldn't doubt it if it's just a red herring so it can be replaced with Emrakul
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>>46107507
BUG
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>>46107697
It better not be Emrakul.
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>>46093972
Meme decks you say
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>>46107722
Is that Elsa from Frozen?
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>>46107756
Technically this is /r9k/ Elsa.
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>>46094321
I'm going to marry u/w spirit tempo!!
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>>46105729
Thalia has good taste
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>Spoilers slow down over the weekend
>Wizards still hasn't shown us what rare dual lands we're getting
>Hard to brew any deck without knowing what the mana's gonna be like

For fuck's sake, where's the leaks
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>>46093972
Is Magic the Gathering Online suitable for a beginner?
>>
Please be Marit Lage or something better.
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>>46108089
It's actually only suitable for a beginner.
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>>46108129
But all the pro MTG players play on there too right?
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>crack open a dozen boosters
>best thing I pull is a foil full art basic

why can't I have nice things?
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>>46108214
Because you buy boosters instead of singles
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>>46107507
GU
BU

Toads can be many things, just because it eats people doesn't mean it's black on Innistrad. Everything eats people.
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>>46108223
>instead of

who said that?
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>>46108291
Because you buy boosters
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>>46108214
Because you'd rather gamble on a chance of something better than paying for a sure thing.

Nearly every person I've ever encountered who got excited about winning the booster lottery enough to share it (by yelling or cheering) with the room is more or less an idiot.

Keep scratching that gambling itch.
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>>46107658
>implying Chub Toad isn't the real eldritch abomination behind it all
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>>46108303
>>46108322

you sound poor
if I really want a Jace or some shit I'll buy a Jace

cracking boosters is fun
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>>46109550
Corrupt Tombstone {2}
Artifact
~ enters the battlefield tapped.
The last ability is tough for me to translate but I believe it's along the lines of "{T}: Choose a color of a card in your graveyard. Add one mana of that color to your mana pool."
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>>46109550
Can be kind of alright in commander and even there it's pretty meh. Some fellows will play it there for sure, though, which is something at least.
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>>46109583
rarity seems a little high to me.
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>>46106059
>go to prerelease
>get some decent cards, deck is okay, but not great
>every spike I play against is bitching about how they got screwed on cards, and how their deck sucks.
>I have to listen to this the whole time I am losing to them.
>I don't even stick around to pick up the bonus pack.
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>>46094183
>3 mana cost sorcery speed pseudo bolt
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>>46109550
Either 1 Mana and tapped or two mana and untapped.
Wizards is too worried with making card accidentally playable ffs
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>there are people in this thread (itt) right now, atm(at the moment) that unironically enjoy playing Magic the Gathering™'s """""standard""""" format
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>>46110021
Really the only good format left is Legacy

>Standard is watered down to the point where mana dorks are too good
>Modern is cucked repeatedly
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>>46110021
>waaaah why do I have to adapt?
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>>46110182
Standard is about to be good again with the loss of 4 color good stuff decks
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>>46104384
Dem legs
>hnnng
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Palpatine spotted in Innistrad
Madness!
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>>46095844
What about Kira, Great glass-spinner?
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>>46111245
seems kind of meh to me
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Is there a chance that Sorin, grim nemesis will get alternate art? the new art is kinda killing it for me.
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>>46111712
There is some. Alternate arts of mythics / rares are often released with the launch of the set. Also I wouldn't be surprised if we got at some point a From the Vault: Planeswalkers.
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>>46109550
WHY IS THIS A RARE?

I'LL WORK WITH IT ANYWAY. RED MEME WINS V2.0, NOW WITH FEWER DEVILS

>4x Pyromancer's Goggles
>4x Harness the Storm
>4x Corrupted Tombstone

>4x Magmatic Insight
>4x Tormented Thoughts

>4x Fiery Impulse
>4x Fiery Temper

>4x Dragon Fodder
>4x Dance with Devils

>4x Westvale Abbey
>20x Mountain
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>>46111712
Better question, is there a chance he'll be playable? It'll be a while until we see him again, and WOTC gives us this jank
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>>46112878
As 1 of in modern esper control.
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Reminder that three of four planeswalkers in this set are identical.
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>>46112918
>caring about planeswalkers
why

you can build a perfectly functional deck without them and they're also ugly
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>>46112904
Dammit, there goes my standard dreams
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>>46113014
>esper control
>modern

He was joking, senpai
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>>46112990

>you can build a perfectly functional tier 2 deck without them

Fixed that for you
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Nahiri is going to blow up the moon, if you look in Sorin's art there's a big chunk of melty moonsilver.
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>>46113342
I think that was the remains of the Helvault.
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>>46113342
We yugioh now?
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>>46113385
Oh shit you're right my bad
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>>46113342

Helvault - but that's still not a bad idea.

The cryptolith portal reflecting the moon... perhaps she's making a doorway inside, to summon our new Five-Legged-Shrew overlord.
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