>Not ending your turn only to start it all over again
How are you guys liking the SoI spoilers? Anything new for your decks?
MODERN IS DEAD
sometimes i like to pretend i have fun legacy pox c:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/high-blue-devotion-mill/
What would you change about this deckbesides scrapping it
>>46079324
>>46079391
Scrapping everything but your Leylines of Sanctity in the sideboard.
>>46079437
Any suggestions? Figuring out a sideboard for this deck has been a struggle
>not building for the post-ban format
>>46079276
People will test Yvon Of The Yukon as a lazy control finisher and Westvale Abbey will be a 1-of in tokens, but nothing else looks like it has Modern playability. Vampires, Spirits and Zombies will continue to not be decks.
>>46079459
>not building sword of the meek decks
Can we all take a minute to laugh at the idiot posting his 8 rack deck last thread
Is budget Sneak Show any good. Thinking of going with 4 Progenitus and 4 Dragon Tyrant as my fatties to cheat in. Just because Emrakul is $40
>>46079694
>>46079701
Volcanic Islands are $1600 apiece, and you're worried about a set of $30 cards?
>>46079276
Use time warp with soulfire grandmaster to return it to your hand and recast each turn. Yeah, it costs 9 mana, but they never get a turn
They should print spirit guides in all color desu imo
>>46079757
Just play Takin'Turns. They'll never get a turn at all when you chain time walks into more time walks while beating with an animated Thassa or awakened land
>>46079747
Well im subbing those out with Steam Vents
How do I get my gf to play
>>46079895
What about hundreds of dollars for Show?
>>46079961
Get her to like a tribe.
>>46079961
Buy her green stompya year ago
>>46079961
buy a duel deck and play together
>>46079747
Is the high price just becuase of the power of blue/red decks, or because it was missing from alpha?
>>46079978
Well I have money for some of the staples of the deck, im just finding ways to budget it. I already own the Progenituses from Alara, and the Dragon Tyrants are the cheapest other fatty.
>>46079895
>>46079701
>Playing bad cards
Just play a format you can afford
>>46079961
Just scrub it out, you don't need modern tier decks to start off, just ease her in with basic decks
How long until Vessel of Volatility gets banned?
>>46080076
When Satyr Hedonist is up for a ban
>>46080104
Creature, not an enchantment
>>46079276
put mtg in the title next time
I have nearly 900$ in store credit and have no clue what to buy.
Help a brother out.
Preferably something that isn't creature unga bunga
![Briarbridge-Patrol[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/orAezDx.png "Briarbridge-Patrol[1].png")
How do we exploit this in a modern deck /tg/ ?
> Get 3 clues and a sac outlet on the board by turn 3
> Turn 4, play this, sac it all and play Emrakul.
>>46080670
It's shit
>>46079483
Vampire aristocrats is a real T3 budget deck tho.
![Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=80250&type=card.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bBwusLT.jpg "Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=80250&type=card.jpg")
Thoughts on Through the Breach in the post ban meta ?
Right now it's kinda bad since it has troubles dealing with 5/5s on turn 2, but once the Eldrazi menace is gone I feel it could be really well placed : it's moderately fast, has great matchup against CoCo and Affinity and is reasonable against Jund.
>>46080670
Blue's Clues: The Card
>>46080851
>once the Eldrazi menace is gone
haha hahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>46080076
>How long until Pentad Prism gets banned?
You dumb piece of shit.
>>46080651
It's already there in the OP, go for Takin' Turns
If you actually want tiered decks though you can go for
Ad Nauseam
Grishoalbrand (iffy and shaky but still fucks most decks if it goes off)
Lantern Control
>>46080895
Aaron Forsythe confirmed in an interview that actions will be taken against the deck in April.
Why do you think everyone is selling out their temples right now ?
>>46080922
It might with this added
>>46080851
TTB now has 12 ways to get cast on turn 3. I think it'll do just fine
How does glittering wish work?
Do I only take cards out of my sideboard or can I bring a bunch of cards and choose from those?
>>46081004
If Kitchen table, anything outside the game
If real matches, SB only
>>46081004
>>Do I only take cards out of my sideboard or can I bring a bunch of cards and choose from those?
I wonder what the fucking rulings on the gatherer page say, you goddamn mouthbreather.
>>46081038
Mouth breather would be two words, genius
>>46080959
Do you think someone would do that? Anonymously shitpost to degrade the content quality?
>>46081050
It's a compound word you illiterate motherfucker.
>>46081050
or one word hyphenated
>>46080895
Pretty much every published pro has said the non-legendary Eldrazi land is D-E-A-D. They might hit both, the madmen.
>>46080970
>12 ways to get cast on turn 3
Well to be honest you really need a perfect draw to pull that off. Usually it's more on turn 4-5 and not always hits an Emmy.
Still a pretty cool deck that's fairly underestimated.
>>46081160
12 ways to generate 5 mana on turn 3. That means you need one of those 12 ways in your opening hand, a TTB, and a fatty.
That's not a rare draw at all.
>>46079961
buy her Souls Sisters
she gets to heal(women like to that as shown in every MMO) and can play cute girls
>>46081052
>>46080959
I feel bad for shitposting. Eldrazi is degenerate and needs to be banned.
>>46081196
>12 ways to generate 5 mana on turn 3
You'll need several cards to do so. There is no card that give you singlehandedly 5 mana on turn 3.
So you'll need 3 Lands, A big guy, TTB and a combination of two ramp spells to make it work, that's a perfect hand of 7.
>>46080959
>>46081231
He said that they plan to be careful nerfing it and don't want to nuke it, because it's a honest and fun creature deck and not a evil blue deck or nazi combo deck.
That's why there is a chance that it's still gonna be op.
>>46081318
Nah, it's gonna get slammed into the ground.
In case you didn't notice, Drowner of Hope and Eldrazi Skyspawner, Cyclonic Rift and Phyrexian Metamorph have a blue color identity. So the deck is blue, which means it has to get banned for the wellbeing of the format.
>>46081318
I expect Chalice, SSG, or Mimic will be the prime targets. Chalice can be used asymmetrically by the deck (even though it's played less often now and in the side rather than MD), and SSG enabled that filthy T1 Chalice for 1 that got so much attention despite the fact that it had been in the format for ages. Mimic is goddamn Mimic.
I don't expect them to get rid of the lands, because this is quite clearly a deck they want to be in the format and it absolutely lives on having 8 sol lands.
>>46081293
3 lands, TTB, a big guy, Pentad Prism. Or Vessel of Volatility. OR Generator Servant.
Know what the fuck you're talking about at least please. Thats a stock hand/draw
>>46081411
yeah let's ban 2 cards that don't even see play in eldrazi anymore and would hurt other decks
>>46081411
Dude what are you even talking about
>>46081420
Fuck not Generator Servant. That other one someone posted.
>>46080959
>temple is the one that'll get banned
ENOUGH with this meme
how retarded are you shitters
>m-muh eye is needeed for tron!
>forsythe wouldn't hurt tron... would he?
one minute you're crying about tron being too powerful and the next minute you don't want eye to be banned because it might hurt tron's matchups.
Temple doesn't let you play 4 mimics t1, anons. Think about it.
>>46081411
>SSG
If they do this, they better fucking unban another ritual. Fucking over my already fucked over storm deck, no thanks.
>>46081420
Lay down the memes pls, I was talking about actual cards not Draft fodder trash.
>>46080959
>sellings temples
>not eye of ugin
Nice meme
![Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=373365&type=card.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9WrQHJZ.jpg "Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=373365&type=card.jpg")
>>46081457
>4 mimics t1, anon
I win.
>>46081517
Prism and Vessel are actual cards
Vessel even lets Storm go off easier with Electromancer.
>>46081547
>and at 4 life because TKS
>>46081547
>turn 2 thought-knot hmmm ill exile your pyroclasm
>wow your hand has a lot of shitty cards in it lol game 2?
Tear me apart
>>46081574
>>46081625
>Le turn 1 4 mimics into turn 2 TKS ripping the answer meme
What is the point of playing more fetches than color producing/fetchable lands? I see it often and from pro players. Is it bad deckbuilding or am I missing something?
>>46081626
I don't have to do shit, you did the work for me
>>46081646
>current year
>meta-meme-ing
>>46081626
Lol so that's what this deck is? I played against this countless times on xmage and thought it was just terrible
>>46081647
You only need maximum 6 to 8 source of producing mana to start casting 2 spells every turn.
Each producing mana land that you draw is kind of dead.
Fetch land let you play only the minimum producing you need while removing 2 land instead of one from your deck.
And it gives you acces to multiple choices of colors.
Why no Bob in 8 Rack?
>>46081795
Extra draws might screw up Bridge. HP loss is relevant.
>>46081795
Because it fucking kills you. Every single 8Racker I've played against that cast Bob died to it, usually by revealing a Lily.
>>46081430
And this would be inconsistent with Wizards' track record... in what way, precisely?
>>46081507
Expect the ban to be off-target in some manner. The fact that they're taking their sweet fucking time banning a deck that rocketed to a third of the metagame and that created its own ecosystem of builds designed to beat the mirror suggests that they don't want the deck DEAD, they just want it neutered.
Wizards clearly wants Eldrazi to be a thing, and banning the lands would be far more likely to kill the deck.
>>46081852
Then nobody would run Bob if that's the issue
>>46081980
It's an issue when you have a deck that tries to win the long game.
>>46081980
Nobody who wins does
>>46081966
Banning Eye wouldn't kill the deck tbqh fampai.
>>46081795
It's bad. The guy who used it in the pro tour would've beat Sam Pardee if he used rats.
>>46081980
But Bob itself isn't the issue. Bob in a non-aggro deck is the issue. Bob in Jund works because the deck focuses on beating the opponent to death with Goyf/Scooze/Bolt. 8Rack aims for the dragged-out game, which doesn't synergize with losing an unpredictable amount of life every turn.
>>46081626
>thatshitty.dek
>>46082038
How would the deck change if they banned mimic or tks instead of the lands? Would it still be tier 1 but not overwhelmingly represented anymore?
>>46082038
I don't think they want to ban the deck, just dial it back. Eldrazi still sell packs
Chronozoa x4
Lord of the unreal x4
hexmage vampire x4
blood artist x4
&& isochron x 2
ultimate price x3
fill in the rest with kill spell/counter spells
the deck is called "aemoba peepa"
the expirimental "osmosis twins" has the above + parellel lives / populate spells
if you play modern mtgo youve probably played it
>>46082195
If they banned mimic I think they'd just replace it with something on the same CMC, maybe G/R eldrazi becomes more dominant and Tron Eldrazi makes rises, due to the ability to generate more mana and play more Smashers and TKS.
If they banned TKS I don't know what would happen, but that's a card I wouldn't mind being banned.
>>46082203
I believe MaRo said this.
>>46082195
>How would the deck change if they banned mimic or tks instead of the lands?
Banning Mimic would end T3 kills, and I don't think anyone can argue that would be bad for the format.
Banning TKS would mean non-black variants wouldn't get to pull answers from opponents hands, and would force the use of a less optimal turn 2 play. The deck would be much less oppressive to play against.
>>46082280
>>46082280
I really hope they just ban mimic. Tbqh
>>46082233
>Blood Artist and Zulaport Cutthroat
>Vampire Hexmage
>Eldrazi Displacer
>Isochron with blink spells
>Blink Hexmage every turn, drain the opponent
>Lord of the Unreal enables beats
>Aether Vial so you can put Hexmage and Displacer without using mana
Seems slow as fuck but fun.
>>46082233
Thanks, Travis. Heil Hitler.
So, for anyone who was curious about selling to ChannelFireball for their buylist... I sent in around 100 cards on their buylist. I was worried about their Nazi-ish grading procedures and knocking NM cards to SP.
15/96 cards were marked down from NM to SP. 0 cards were marked down to MP/HP/Damaged. Out of those 15 cards, only a Cursecatcher and Temple Garden (RTR) were worth more than $5. All of my $25+ cards retained their NM rating.
My buylist was worth $579.50 on submission, and has been graded down to $571.50. I really don't think they'd jew over your list. Just be honestto yourselfwhen you send stuff in.
>>46080003
Try Pelakka Wurm if you're that desperate for money
>>46079701
Let me just tell you right fucking now, I ran a budget sneak and show list, and when I say budget I mean vents instead of volcanics. It was bad. 2 life is a big fucking deal man, 4 life is pretty much a loss. When I got my first volcanic, the aggro matchups got good. Then I got another and now I just straight up win. There is no budget legacy, just decks that lose.
>>46079276
>using temporal mastery in turns
>>46083378
>not using Temporal Mastery in turns
How do I tell if a foil card I purchased was fake?
I bought a 10th edition wrath of god foil and literally the whole card is foil and blindingly shiny..I haven't seen this on any other card.
Should I be concerned?
>>46083440
Fake foils look obviously fake. If the rest of the card doesn't look fake in any way, it's real.
>>46083440
Foils are incredibly hard to fake, and don't necessarily follow the tests for non-foils (light test in particular).
If it's fake, it will be obviously so.
>>46083440
Do the microwave test. If it does this, it's legit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwhS-BJnpHY
>>46083440
When all else fails, Google. This is (according to Google Images) a 10th ed foil Wrath. It's shiny as shit.
>Fun decks edition
How about werewolves? Not going to be super competitive but if we get another moonmist like support card and some more solid werewolves over the block it could be a very fun deck type.
Just bought all the pieces from Innistrad v1 (Huntmaster, etc) that I think would fit. I'm hoping that this is the real birth of a fun little deck type.
>>46083645
Dumb frog poster
>>46081411
This is why none of us retards have any influence in what gets banned
>>46083785
You don't think it would be fun if the deck had 8 on demand transformations? Some games would go your way and you'd smash face and others would be a total tossup with random transformations. What's more Red/Green than living or dying on your creatures being raging beasts and going in for the win big time or losing big time?
Sounds fun to me as a more casual deck.
What's everyone running for FNM tomorrow? Post lists!
>>46083645
>tribe decks
>anything but boring
Go back to Force of Will
>>46084169
Nigga I will fight youbut I can't argue against that.
I was an idiot and didn't buy fetchlands last year when they were cheap.
Should I just bite the bullet and buy them now?
>>46084325
How much do you care about magic? They will only get more expensive
>>46084325
They're only going to keep going up.
>>46084341
>>46084344
Noted. I used to be a big extended player and just recently got into modern. Figure if I'm going to play I might as well play for real but last year I wasn't sure if I wanted to really get back into it (and spend all that money haha).
Looks like it's time to open the wallet up.
Does Lili see play in any good Legacy decks?
>>46083834
As I've said, it seems pretty clear that they're not looking to ban the deck altogether. Banning one of the two lands is something I feel like Wizards may want to avoid, so that leaves noteworthy lines of play for ban targets.
Of those the most notorious is probably SSG into T1 Chalice, and Mimic as a card has gained some notoriety for being a strong T1 play and its interaction in multiples with Eye of Ugin. I'm not saying I LIKE any of those bans, but that if they don't take one of the lands those three cards are likely at the top of the list of things they'll try getting rid of to nerf the deck.
>>46084556
Then why is she so expensive?
She barely even sees play in Modern
>>46082362
Aether vial, thats a great point. I have a few fabricates in as well, and a sword of light and shadow B+)
>>46083378
beanie baby congo , what a terrible fate
It's too hard to find the duels art for the rack
>>46082362
holy shit zulaport cuttthroat is significantly better than blood artist
thank you my friend
>>46084427
Shardless Sultai
He comes across as a huge baby in this but in the end I can see where he's coming from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4aiOpu5ufs
>>46084645
price memory.
People will not sell their Lilliana for half the price they bought it even if she's not played in any good deck atm.
>>46084714
The only thing is that zulaport doesnt trigger on your opponent's creatures dying.
Most of the deck that plays Blood Artist/zulaport don't care because they don't run that many removal.
>>46084765
Fuuuck I can't decide if I should buy a set now or wait
>>46084727
>implying you aren't shilling your channel
>implying I'm going to watch you stutter for 20 minutes
>>46084793
I have a bit of removal, 2 slaughter pacts 1 dismember
thats a good point to make though, my blood artist have really saved me some games when my opponents were going sacrifice heavy..
Btw would blinking the hex mage before you sacrifice mean the counters from chronozoa would be removed but the vampire is not dead?
>>46084899
No, saccing hexmage is part of the activation cost
>>46084853
Why do you think he would come to a shithole like this with less than 50 posters?
>>46084805
better to wait. It's not like you have to play a deck with her if none of the decks with her made top 8
I have snorted so much drugs dont takeme seriously but that leprachaun is the best planewalker this game has seen in a long time
>>46084727
>Modern should be only turnin' fair creatures sideways !
What a huge faggot
>>46083058
Yeah I've sold once to them and had a pleasant experience.
They give you 30% more for your cards if you choose store credit.
So for Liliana of the Veil they give you $75, and the 30% brings it to $98 of the $120 they will sell it for. Not bad in my opinion as my LGS gives only 60% of the full value and not a penny more ($72 for the Liliana example).
>>46085836
Not to mention my LGS would sell Liliana for $140-150
>b-but we have to make money too!
>support your LGS or we'll go out of business!
call the meme police, see if I care
>>46084727
>Lantern Control
>Not an interactive deck
You litteraly have to interact with every draw step... And interact differently based on your opponent deck
This guy is retarded
>>46084727
>banning simian spirit guide.
I just hope modern dies as quickly as it possibly can at this point.
>>46085996
Simian Sirit Guide limit design space and enable a lot of degenerate things that forces you to watch your opponent durdle playing solitaire until he goes off on turn 3 because he had his perfect hand.
>>46085912
Jeskai gifts?
>>46086048
jeskai ascendancy loam gifts
>>46086069
If you meme enough you'll become a god, I believe in you.
So John Avon has this thing where you can mail him cards (and money) and he'll sign them.
Worth?
>>46086103
Thanks familia. This deck is a blast to play, though.
>>46086041
>Simian Sirit Guide limit design space
Every potentially playable card 'limits design space' and spirit guide doesn't do so more than most interesting cards.
>and enable a lot of degenerate things that forces you to watch your opponent durdle playing solitaire
Sounds like if you're concerned about uninteractive durdling banning blood moon would be the actually sensible option (although still debatable)
>until he goes off on turn 3 because he had his perfect hand.
People with perfect hands are going to win weather they win turn 3 or turn 7, do you judge fun by the amount of turns you played?
Even if you just hate combo decks that much it is still incredibly stupid to ban the fast mana cards rather than the actual enablers, pauper has systematically killed every combo deck without killing every piece of fast mana, and it has less uninteractive bullshit decks to show for it.
>>46086185
So you're recommending to ban things like Ad Nauseam, Through the Breach when the real problem is the fact that they go off on turn 3 and if you are on the draw and/or didn't have a discard spell or your hate card you're fucked ?
Meanwhile if it happens 2 or 3 turns later (ie. Without SSG) you are more likely to draw into what you need to disrupt or apply enough pressure.
It limits design space because they probably can't print aggressively costed combo enabler because of the fact that SSG fasten this combo by a turn.
Blood moon is a card that should go too. But it's the only way to punish people for greedy manabase. I'm on the fence about this card, I want it to go, but at the same time, I want people to be punished for running fetches/shocklands without having any basics.
>>46084954
then whats with the whole strategy of blinking vampire hexmage?? lol
>>46086273
>So you're recommending to ban things like Ad Nauseam, Through the Breach when the real problem is the fact that they go off on turn 3 and if you are on the draw and/or didn't have a discard spell or your hate card you're fucked ?
Please think about what you are saying for a bit before you say it.
The real problem isn't the speed of these decks, the real problem is the uninteractivity of the metagame.
Banning SSG only helps the metagame become more 'interactive' by weakening combo decks, that is all it could possibly do, the combo decks that played SSG won't become significantly more interactive just because they they'll get slowed down by half a turn or so, and any interaction that they will gain will be offset by the fact that other decks will play less interaction against combo decks (as there become less of them).
>Meanwhile if it happens 2 or 3 turns later (ie. Without SSG) you are more likely to draw into what you need to disrupt or apply enough pressure.
First off, it won't come 2-3 turns later because they have 1 less mana through their entire game, it will delay them by 0-1 turns (except for AD naus which will just die). Second, and more importantly, THE GAME YOU DESCRIBED ISN'T MORE INTERESTING THAN A TURN 3 KILL. You aren't actually making the format more fun in the scenario that combo decks are still just as viable, you are just shifting who wins (this is of course blatantly paradoxical in its own right).
>they probably can't print aggressively costed combo enabler because of the fact that SSG fasten this combo by a turn.
They never print those anyway, and who cares about those great combo enablers if they will never see play?
I am of the opinion that combo decks must be accepted to the point where they unambiguously kill any non-combo deck that does not pack hate for them, or combo decks need to be removed from modern all together.
>>46083440
for those who don't know, bend the card corner to corner. if its real, it can be bent without creasing, and bend back into shape.
>>46084765
Liliana certainly sees legacy play. It's not price memory either as she is still climbing.
She's a solid card and till a reprint happens will continue to climb
>>46086593
Foils will--
Carry on.
>ebay card, pay within the first five minutes of winning auction
>seller ships within hour of auction ending
It's like digital handshaking and "thank yous"
>wotc reprints modern staples
>card prices literally stayed the same
>still have to pay $600 at the lowest for 4x GOYfs
nice trading card game goys
>>46086273
Blood moon should not go
Kill yourself shitter
>top modern decks cost the same as top legacy decks
>>46087969
Eldrazi is like 600-800
Affinity and Abzan Coco is a little over 1k.
What are you talking about.
What exactly is the purpose of the modern format?
>>46087829
You could just not play goyf.
>>46088034
To play Legacy without Force of Wills, etc.
>>46088034
To rotate your deck more often than standard because it keeps getting banned.
Is Elemental Combo actually a good deck?
How does a deck like that and Suicide Zoo not just die to a simple burn spell after killing itself so much?
>>46088438
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Path to Exile
4 Boros Charm
4 Remand
2 Isochron Scepter
4 Exhaustion
How retarded a place to start is this?
>>46079961
Just give it up
I've tried to make my gf like magic but she doesn't like games that involve a bunch of information processing and strategic thinking
she likes games where you draw cards with words and then you mime those words. and she's really good at those games. strategic games however just aren't for everyone.she's a psychologist, go figure
>>46088502
Why are you asking me?
>>46088581
Didn't mean to quote, but feel free to offer your opinion anyway. Or don't.
>>46088516
Woah my gf is too. Or will be in July rather.
Are me you?
I just shot a lot of pain meds up my butthole
>>46080851
If only Splice worked with something besides Arcane spells.
>>46088017
Dredge and Oops cost less.
>>46084727
>he thinks a format with daze, fow and more gy hate than modern has cards in total is a coin-flip format
Never go full retard.
>>46081411
>Chalice
For what purpose? Chalice isn't even a big offender and all the aggro/tribal decks either play Cavern or go too fast on the play that Chalice is just bad on the draw.
>SSG
Reasonable target but you would indirectly be hitting reasonable combo decks like Ad Nauseam that haven't done anything wrong.
>Mimic
Mimic is a good target for a ban since it stops the explosiveness of the deck from doing 12-20 on turn 2.
>>46089659
Nothing feels better than dropping chalice for 0 on the play against affinity, this is why God made it.
>>46089468
I thought you were talking about top legacy decks?
>>46087829
try a different game
>>46090009
Or Chalice for 0 against Ad Nauseam. Or Chalice for 0 against Living End. Or Chalice for 1 (w/SSG) against almost everything else.
Chalice is just a fun card.
>>46081966
>sweet time
They are literally banning it at the earliest opportunity
>>46085836
>tfw your lgs does 80% when doing store credit
>>46091073
Damn bruh that's fug gin nuts
>>46079821
> black guide
> dark ritual
> dark ritual
> ad naus
> gg
You're a fucking moron and should objectively fucking kill yourself
>>46091581
You just killed yourself turn 0.
>>46091720
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure I can generate enough mana and storm to do well over 20 damage to you right then during my main phase you fat literal cuck. You should do the world a favor and hang yourself for being so fucking degenerative. It's idiot fucking mouthbreathers like you who fucking ruin magic by showing up with your treasure hunt deck to fnm and talk about how you are trying to break sage of hours in modern and mention that you would like to make a card where during your upkeep you can put 5 +1/+1 counters on a creature for U. End your fucking existence
>>46091720
I think his point is that you get a bunch of cards going into your first turn, thereby upping your chance of going off on that turn. I think. He could also be an idiot.
>>46091581
>Blue guide
>blue guide
>counter spell
Goes both ways
>>46091969
or, you know, force of will.
>>46091969
You just 3 for 1 yourself. Nice job you fucking idiot. How is this better than FOW? Or right we are living in a world run my idiots and the laws of reasoning don't apply. Join the others by lynching yourself and ending your worthless pathetic life
>>46092031
He 3 for 4'd. The other person played 3 spells just to cast AN.
>>46090206
>Chalice for 0 against Ad Nauseam
Kind of better off putting Chalice on 1 than 0 against Ad Nauseam. Yes you'll hit Lotus Bloom but they also have Pentad Prism to accelerate and putting Chalice on 1 will shut off Angel's Grace and all the cantrips thereby slowing the deck down immensely and having to facilitate a win through Phyrexian Unlife.
>>46092031
Your the retard bringing up legacy shit in modern. "Counter spell" meant whatever generic counter spell modern has. So try a little harder. Your meme skills are lacking.
>>46092064
>Implying that using 2 blue guides and a counterspell is better than FOW
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kill yourself
>>46091581
>I'm absolutely terrified about worse versions of lotus petal.
>let me rage about how objectively terrible this would be
kek.
>>46092131
I didn't say that. It simply means that he has a higher chance of having interaction turn one. Also 1 blue guide into spell pierce also works. In other words your play is shit and you should kill yourself.
>>46092131
>>Implying that using 2 blue guides and a counterspell is better than FOW
Who are you quoting?
>>46084253
>attacking with one SSS for 6 damage over 6 turns
>not attacking with faerie rogue tokens from Bitterblossom for 21 damage over 6 turns
2 hrs 17 minutes
Brewing Modern Zombie with the new cards spoiled so far.
Pic related.
Notes from testing:
Relentless Dead is very underwhelming and doesn't provide any immediate board impact. I haven't been able to use any of his abilities nor have I found the urge to.
Diregraf Ghoul is an MVP. He hits the board and takes over immediately. He's good at any point of the game and has to be dealt with right away or things get out of hand. Late game? 2B for a 6/6+ easily. Early game? Shits out a ton of 2/2 tokens. His interactions with Gravecrawler and Lotleth Troll are amazing.
Example:
Discard Gravecrawler(s) to Lotleth Troll
Cast/Vial/CoCo in Diregraf Ghoul with X counters
Cast Gravecrawler(s)/Zombies from hand and drop X 2/2 tokens
This is a very early version of the deck and I'm working things out to get it more explosive since this is Modern after all. Here are some of the things I've been thinking about:
Is 3 colors too much vs BW / BG.
White gives us: Path / Suller / Sideboard
Green gives us: Lotleth Troll / Abrupt Decay / Collected Company
Vial vs CoCo?
I've only tested Vial, but with how many 1cmc spells that are already in the deck and everything being 3cmc or lower, CoCo is looking more appealing. It's also a MUCH better topdeck and multiples are fine.
Vial let's us keep mana up for Path/Abrupt/Regen and flash shinangins. Makes getting around mana restrictions easier.
Would a set of lords be better than the current options? As I said, this is a very early version and needs to be tested more with other cards.
Any card suggestions? It's a lot of fun to play right now.
>>46092273
Why don't you add blue so you can vial in/relentless dead reanimate a Skaab Goliath?
>>46092267
She did it on purpose. She could have ended the game many turns earlier, she just kept it going for as long as possible just to fuck with the bimbo.
So what would be a decentand cheapdeck to build right now? I've been thinking of either building Merfolk or a janky Kiln Fiend burn deck.
I think the new blood scrivener might be playable in MBC, am I an idiot for trying to eek value out of +1ing Lili with her? I run too many big CMC cards to get away with Bob
>>46092527
Merfolk sounds fine.
>>46092558
What kind of Merfolk though? Mono U, maybe splash some white or some black?
>>46092572
Never heard of any merfolk deck that isn't monoU
>>46092593
Well, okay. I guess I'll do that then.
>>46092572
Merfolk is always mono-blue. Wanderwine hub is just there because it doesn't get hit by island hate.
>>46092572
I like white splash, but that's just me.
Black splash is not good, period.
Anyone tried to make this work?
>>46092662
Why bother?
Wouldn't Hivemind be strictly superior?
>>46084954
>>46086311
Hey, >>46082362 here. For some reason I thought it was an ETB trigger, the remove counters thing.
>>46092662
there are faster 2 card combos, like adnauseam.
>>46092917
>>46092787
But I thought we were in a fun deck thread. Besides the lifegain actually could be pointed at yourself in the early game to put aggro decks out of reach.
>>46092964
>6 mama early game
wew lad what sort of spicy causal environment do you come from?
>>46092982
You would play other lifegain cards and things like Condemn / Devouring Flesh could work with it as well. Maybe Rest for the Weary. Put in an Idyllic Tutor in there somewhere.
You could get out of reach in the early game.
You could kill him with you other "burn spells"
I haven't made this work because I'm not a good brewer but someone could
>>46092982
Actually to be fair, 6 mana is possible by turn 3 or turn 4. Easiest way usually involves a Pentad Prism or a Lotus Bloom coming off suspend.
>>46092505
Unfortunately you still have to pay the CMC for the zombie you return to the battlefield.
>>46079694
It was actually decent.
Welcome to the Fold is gonna be a Modern playable card. Calling it.
Why is Stinkweed Imp a huge faggot with pseudo deathtouch? Fucking errata him already
>>46091948
Are you a lumberjack ?
>>46091948
>getting this mad
Would a land with madness be too strong? Im pretty sure It wouldn't work the way madness is worded but I mean the overall idea.
>>46095015
You have to give us a concept familia. Like a land has madness and it has a mana cost to pay for madness?
>>46095015
It would have to act like a weird mix of Splice and Madness with a solid ETB effect, like
>only play [land] when a spell's Madness cost is paid
It's an interesting design space but I can see it being confusing for new players, so Wizards will never print it
>>46095015
You can't cast lands.
>>46081318
>17 dmg on turn 2
>honest
>fun
>>46095302
Like you can play it if it was discarded.
>>46091948
>>46091965
You blew through 4+ cards to draw 4-6 with a good amount of life lost. There's so many better things you could do with a B SSG.
>>46095457
Sounds too broken familia
>>46095456
It's not swinging for lethal and dies to removal, what else do you want?
>>46095457
>faithless looting ramp
oh boy
>>46095706
I had just thought of that. Maybe enter the battlefield tapped to even it out?
>>46092662
I suppose it's feasible anon.
A playset of Beacon of Immortality and a playset of pic related and you've got 8 win conditions.
Add in premium removal like Path and something to filter through your enchantments and you're onto a winner.
>>46096126
Yeah, sounds like a modern all-star, 12 cards that are completely dead in your hand and require you to stay alive against burn and eldrazi beatdown for 7-8 turns.
Not to mention sanguine bond / exquisite blood not actually winning you the game. You need to ALSO deal damage / gain life.
Would this card make twin viable again?
>>46096296
Twin is dead anon...rip in piece
>>46096430
Twins not dead, they just dropped the combo pieces and added in blood moons and shit.
>>46096550
>Twin's not dead, Blue Moon's totally the same thing
>>46096794
They really are, switch out the twins for blood moons and the exarchs for value and it's twin
>>46096672
>lost deck
>losing a deck
You deserve it for being a worthless faggot
>>46096296
>being this colossal a twinigger
brewing Modern Knights
thoughts?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-03-16-bant-knights/
>>46096296
VALUE
>>46097539
Whats the point of the birds desu?
I mean u already got vial
>>46097587
yea I wasn't sure about that. my curve seemed too high but there is a big lack of value knights at the 1 and 2 drop slot. should I get rid of the birds and add 2 vapor snags?
>>46081199
Soul Sisters is a trigger nightmare (even more so if you splash Red for Norin)
Its not a deck you want to use to try and introduce people to the game.
Something simple like Boros Burn or Death and Taxes are better for getting newer players into the game.
>>46098091
>implying casuals even know how the stack works
>>46097539
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-03-16-bant-knights/
What are your thoughts on a few mutavaults, or is your mana base locked up?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lightning-bolt-tribal/
Taking this to a big Modern event hosted by Face to Face Games tomorrow.
I can't wait to get destroyed by eldrazi!
>>46098335
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lightning-bolt-tribal/
I though burn was pretty gud again eldrazi?
>>46094287
Reanimating Skaab Goliath from the gy with the Relentless Dead or putting it into play with CoCo is still ok for me with a 5/6 flying Zombie Horror and bypassing his extra costs.
>>46098354To tell you the truth I've never actually played against eldrazi, no one at my LGS plays the deck because they know its gonna get banned
So is drazi worse than caw-blade?
>>46098335
>lightning bolt tribal
>it's just burn.dek
>>46098335
you, I like youStarlight breaker those assholesthen befriend them
