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Planeswalker Mania Edition
RESOURCES

http://www.mtgcommander.net
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.

http://www.tappedout.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.

http://www.edhrec.com/
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.

http://manabasecrafter.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.

CARD SEARCHING

http://gatherer.com
>Official search site. Current for all sets but has a terrible UI.

http://www.magiccards.info
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.

Thread topic: Thoughts on the current list for SOI?
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>>46072873
>Reverse Bob
Ho boy
>Drain creature or planeswalker
Decent
>Vampire Knight Spam
Neat

6/10
Expensive, doesn't protect itself well, but fun. Certainly good for multiplayer.
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>>46072873
Nahiri dun fucked up now
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Can I get some general construction advice for my Anafenza deck? Here's what I have currently:

1 commander
38 creatures
19 spells
10 enchantments
1 artifact
31 lands
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>>46073367
Way too few lands
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>>46073367
Need more than that. Would be easiest to just put up a tappedout link and an idea of what youre going for with the deck.
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These threads seem a lot slower over the last few days, is it because we're all waiting on spoilers? I know I am
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>>46073660
Everyone's in the spoiler threads
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Alright guys I've been rocking a monoblack Vampire Tribal deck for about a year now. Drana has been at the helm, and I really put the deck together because I got some good black staples and tutors from a friend for free.

But it consistently under performs. I was considering transforming it into an Olivia Voldaren deck to broaden the cards I can use, and see if it also opens up some strategies.

Has anyone played RB and Mono vampires? And if so how do the two compare?
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This guy is so based.
>Keeping everyone off your back.
>Setting people up against eachother.
>Winning with the weirdest win conditions.

Why didn't I find this guy sooner. It's so much fun and makes you a narcistic ass in a game.

Brought in a lot of prizes with this guy just for the sake of always ending up last 2 in a match.

Isn't this guy the true spirit of EDH?
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>>46073723
Going RB will make you lose a lot of the sweet black Ramp like Cabal Coffers.

Also do know that all other players will agro you as soon as Olivia is on the field for no one likes the threat of their creatures stolen from under their noses.

Have a mono black tribal Vamp deck myself it performs great.

Commanders ranked by order:
>Anowon, the Rune Sage (The true Anon Sage)
>Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief (Feels great to suck dry indestructibles)
>Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet

Also a vamp deck without Bloodchief Ascension isn't a true vamp deck.

The lack of this card in EDH is pathetic.
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>>46073429
What's optimal land efficiency? I typically go 34-35
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>>46073770
Oh wow that guy looks fun as fuck
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>>46073901
35-40
I find 38 to be the Magic number.
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>>46072873
Oh man that +1
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Easy EDH staple, my dudes.
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badass, but
>CMC 6
literally unplayable outside limited & EDH
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>>46074186
>creature or land
>not creature and land
Still an instant add for my green decks though.
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Being a douche canoe just got 10 times better for my Sen triplets deck.
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>>46073905
He is one of my favorites.
>Sen Triplets
>Gwafa Hazid
>Marchesa, the Black Rose

My playgroup hates and loves me at the same time.
You shouldn't play him to controlly or else you get a lot of aggro. Just pillow in your corner and try to win with the most retarded win conditions.
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>>46074267
>the most retarded win conditions
Like what? Now I'm curious
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>>46074241
Are you me?
Using Academy Ruins on that one feels so good.
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>>46074305
I also use Strionic Resonator in multiplayer games if I don't use it for Sen triplets because either the other opponents have shit, or Paradox Haze is out.
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>Competitive EDH
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>>46074280
I have these now.
>Azor's Elocutors
>Laboratory Maniac
>Felidar Sovereign
>Test of Endurance

There are more I'd like to try and make work like.
>Near-Death Experience
>Barren Glory

And I only hope this one will actually have a way to trigger in EDH
>Battle of Wits

Always looking for new ones feel free to inform me.
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>>46074505
EDH is basically hipster Vintage, of course people will play it competitively. Some of them ironically competitively, but still.
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>>46074652
>>Battle of Wits
Oh boy

>have Battle of Wits out
>make a whole bunch of mana
>get Spawnsire out
>use Spawnsire's second ability
>cast like 700 Emrakul proxies from your binder/shoebox/wherever
>win
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>>46072873
That -9 is kind of underwhelming.

One board wipe and that small army of tokens doesn't count for diddily unless you can sacrifice them all on the spot.
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>>46072873
That Sorin is like fucking made for my Big CMC deck.

Gonna love flipping a Worldspine Worm or Draco.
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>>46074761
>unless you can sacrifice them all on the spot
Hello how are you
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Anyone have a link to a decent Avacyn angel - based deck that wipes the fields and can go in swinging with worldslayer?
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>>46074223
Non basic lands bro. It's awesome
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>>46074843
Diregraf Colossus enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter for each Zombie card in your Graveyard. Whenever you cast a Zombie spell, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield tapped.
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>>46074843

pretty good.
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>>46074843
I posted this in the wrong thread meant to post in the spoiler thread.
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>>46074843
Not bad. Got a Grimgrin deck that could use him.
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>>46074843
>>46074855
I can't wait to draft Zombies
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>>46074843
Sheesh, I want him in Tymaret or Thrax yesterday
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>>46074803
Hello there friend
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Are there any mass flicker effects in Grixis colors? I want to build Sedris discard and build a giant army
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>>46075027
Yeah I'd like both him and the abbey in my tymaret.
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Anyone using Flip Lili as a commander?
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>>46075082
So difficult to protect
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>>46075082
No not as a commander.
I do use her in Alesha.
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>>46074219
Chanda, Flamecaller sees some play in Standard.

I mean, 6CMC is pretty harsh, but it's not an instant disqualification
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>>46074843
Monoblack zombies in Standard when?
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>Playing against Newlamog
>They get Mana Crypt, Sol Ring and Worn Powerstone turn 1
>Has Newlamog out by turn 3
>Two of my 3 lands exiled
>10 commander and exile the top 20 because le ebin lightning greaves

What's to be done after a Titan turn 3? What the actual fuck am I supposed to do at that point?
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>>46075326
Shuffle up and start the next game?
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>>46075326
scoop
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>>46075326
Eldrazi makes so many friends among magic players.....

I remember the time one guy among our playgroup brought annihilate to the table.

After getting agro from all of us at 4 meets in a row he knew he had to change his ways.
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>>46075326
Nothing really, you can exile but he probably has enough mana to cast him again and you are too far behind. Just a lucky start really, pretty much every colorless deck save for Karn is like legacy mud, it has consistency issues.
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>>46075326
So an opponent used Sol Ring and Mana Crypt to power out a turn 3 Eldrazi titan, leaving you unable to fight back? That does sound aggressively unfun, and it's definitely not the type of experience we want to provide with this format. It's painfully obvious what the problem is here.

I'll share your story at our next rules committee reunion so we can decide whether or not we need to ban new Ulamog.
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Legendary werewolf confirmed faggots
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>>46072873
Welp, looks like it's a good time to make that Tesya deck.

Is it just me, or is Commander getting a lot of love this set?
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>>46076064
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>>46076131
>ito reaction images
My nigga
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>>46075326
>>46075442

>have a Kozilek edh deck before bfz/ogw
>brewing and putting it together was hard, but rewarding work
>feel good
>newZendikar rolls around
>neat, new cards for the deck
>but now everyone and their dog wants to play colorless edh
>said colorless babbys are carcinogenic, some of the biggest whiners and shitters I've ever seen
>"my le 38 wastes and a couple of mana rocks xD"
>"heh, what out guys! This deck of mine is awesome and totally gonna own you!"
>"waaaaaaah why you keep messing with me!"
>mfw colorlessbros have their reputation ruined
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Anyone in the know mind giving me some pointers for my Sigarda voltron deck? It's still in the prototype stages, but I'm at the point where I'm ready to start buying the cards I need to finish it.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sigarda-enchantress-voltron-2/

Basically, is there anything I should be using that I'm not? Or anything I'm using that's shit?
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>>46076240
I feel sorry for you but I still won't let you reach your critical mass in any game.

>people don't understand that building a rek deck will actually make you lose. Since you'll always be that nr.1 to kill for all 3 others.

I get this hate a lot from people who already had a game against my Marchesa deck.

First time they see it they're like Meh not even Tier 1 commander.
Untill they can't stop you either from coming back our out sacrificing their kewl got you locked spells....
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>>46076240

>but now everyone and their dog wants to play colorless edh
>said colorless babbys are carcinogenic, some of the biggest whiners and shitters I've ever seen
>"heh, watch out guys! This deck of mine is awesome and totally gonna own you!"
>"waaaaaaah why you keep messing with me!?"

This is exactly what it's become too. Between my playgroup and LGS, they are everywhere. Except good Eldrazi decks wouldn't run all wastes.

And I could handle the fact that they're the cancerous deck dujour. But just about every one of these eldrazi players kicks and screams at getting targeted. It's like this big fucking mystery to them why anyone would want to hate them out. That's the worst of it desu senpai. Being cancer and not having the decency to admit you're cancer.
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>>46076348
In the same vein of Dueling Grounds, have you thought of adding Silent Arbiter?
Also, depending on your meta, a Fog or two might be nice.
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>>46076348
Not sure if good exactly in your deck, but it's one of those lesser known cards that's just an auto include in just about any w/g/x that has some amount of creatures.
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>>46076348
Green decks should have Sylvan Library.
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>>46076430
My problem isnt being a high priority target in my games, it was always like that before the new set. My problem is that simply, back then having a colorless deck made you the cool kid on the block, but then having a bunch of shitters come in and make colorless players look bad.
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>>46073163

She just wants the rough vampire D, shes a slut just looking for some fuck.
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>>46074718

>it's a bait episode
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im looking for a card that functions like endless horizons but for black/swamps help me out fuckers
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>>46075082

Yes. She's amazing. Anyone who says she's hard to protect isn't playing her right.
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>>46076902

>my waifu is top tier pls don't bully my waifu

-u
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>>46076967

>implying she's my waifu

Liliana is legit good. She's one of my best decks right now, which means I can't play it without bitching from my group. I'm not sorry you don't have a hand. That's what the deck does.
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I opened some Avacyn packs (got em for 4 a piece too) and pulled a cavern of souls.

What tribal should I make? Or should I sell it for 60 to some dude I know?
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>>46076902
>offers no protection whatsoever from removal
>"Anyone who says she's hard to protect isn't playing her right."

The waifufaggotry is strong in this one.
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>>46077051
>black has trouble emoving creatures
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>>46077024

Being one of your best decks doesn't mean shes good.
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>>46077083
This
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>>46076792
fucker just play green.
Otherwise you gotta go mana doubling.
Crypt Ghast
Cabal Coffers
Nirkana Revenant
Bubbling Muck
Doubling Cube
Caged Sun
Gauntlets of Power
Liliana's Shade?
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>>46076792
In monoblack Liliana of the Dark Realms is probably the closest thing.
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>>46077076
Did you read the conversation or just jump right in?

I'm saying she offers no protection from removal. When did I say anything about black's ability to remove creatures?
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Hey guys i recently got a half price mind seize commander deck and want to use nekusar as my commander

What should i replace and with what to make it a bit more competitive ?
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>>46074186

unfortunately the delirium is too hard to turn on in my green deck

its great for graveyard based green decks though
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>>46077334

I assumed you were talking about removing Planeswalkers, which is most commonly done by attacking with creatures. She even has her own protection by dropping a zombie when she flips.

If you were talking about killing her as a creature, then she absolutely had protection since you can just flip her in response by sacing a creature.
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>>46077083

>making subjective claims like "x is good" or "y is bad" without providing any concrete comparisons to demonstrate relative value

holy shit your posts are utterly worthless you elitist fucking pieces of shit

not the lili poster btw, just somebody who hates you
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>>46077349
Me thinks its 85 cards
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>>46077430

Man, you seem really fucking mad.
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>>46076592

i feel like this is a dead draw unless you build around threshold

your average green white deck doesnt consistently have 7 cards in graveyard and a grip of creatures to cheat in

with that said, it IS a great card, i just would never call it auto-include, its a build around card
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I played a 1:55 min, game yesterday :(

The Nekusar player put meekstone against no other red players. When i tried to bounce it with blue magic he beat me at each blue-off :(

3 creatures attacked during the first 90 mins of the game, i'm not even exaggerating.

he also still lost from milling himself even after time spiral vs a life gain strategy.
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>>46076348

just off the top of my head you're missing ethereal armor and kor spiritdancer
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>>46074803
>>46075030
These two cards are literally a summary of my whole mono black deck.
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>>46077465

that is correct sir i am mad

your post made me mad

as i said, people who just throw around subjective judgments are the worst kind of people. so self-satisfied, and yet completely unaware of how useless their smug, context-less opinions are
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>>46077516

wait i see them in your maybe board

you need both, and you also need enchantress' presence, which is also in your maybe board
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>>46077465

>its the dude with pictures saved on his computer for trolling purposes

good to see you again

you're pretty quick on the draw, your preparation serves you well
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>>46077543

Getting so upset isn't good for you Anon, you should try to calm down before you keel over from the effort of raging so hard at posts on a Tibetan rug weaving website.
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>>46077604

thanks for the advice

always so helpful
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>>46077702

No problem, just because your EDH decks are trash doesn't mean your whole life has to be!
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>>46077604
Don't shit on my Tibetan rug-weaving website. Where else do I post my rug designs?
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>>46077745

wise words

that picture is great too, your references are off the charts

you might be the coolest 4chan poster ive seen today
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>>46077759

>He doesn't have a DeviantRug account

>>46077771

You might be the most butthurt baby on all of 4chan, and that's no small feat with how mad /pol/ is all the time.
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>>46077795

im so butthurt, youre right

im so butthurt i literally had to type "im so butthurt", extreme stuff

meanwhile you keep the sweet memes flowing, very impressive. also you post on /pol/, which is too cool
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>>46077795
Nigga, DeviantRug gives away your rug designs without your permission. I'm not letting some corporate fat-cat get his grubby mitts on my weaves.
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>>46077824

>"I swear I'm not mad look how not mad I am I'M NOT MAD"

>>46077828

I didn't know that, this is pretty worrying desu I am gonna have to look into this thanks for the heads up bro.
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>>46077884
No problem, pal. Just making sure everyone knows the dangers of the internet. Make sure not to give out any personal information to strangers, or trust literally anyone because they could be rapists!
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>>46077884

>"I swear I'm not mad look how not mad I am I'M NOT MAD"

but thats exactly what you're doing

this whole exchange you've been trying to prove how less mad you are than me with your clever memes
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>>46077932
You sound like my mom

>>46077934
To be fair, you sound a lot more mad than him
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>>46077934

Yeah, I'm pretty sure your first post was 'sperging out over nothing, so..

mad

as

fuck

kiddo

:^)
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>>46077795
The guy you're arguing with sounds like a faggot, and you're doing a terrific job of making him mad, but you also sound like a faggot who doesn't actually listen to people's arguments and just defaults to the "ur bad and ur deck is bad" position.

I'm torn here. I guess I'll call you both faggots and let you keep arguing.
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>>46077974
Judging by the amount of cocks I take in my pussy, I could very well be the mother of any of you kids here on the Chins. I get around.
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>>46077991

That's fair, I probably deserve to get called a faggot from time to time.
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>>46077993
Were you under a bridge 10 years ago, around February? Oh and are you also a big ugly troll?
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>>46078033
Yes to both. Especially "big ugly."
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>>46078029
Well you do post on /tg/, so that goes without saying.
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>>46077974

>To be fair, you sound a lot more mad than him

i never claimed to be less mad than him. i am not ashamed that his post made me mad.

i am trying to figure out what his point is
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>>46078050
m-mother?
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>>46078064
That's right, fuccboi. I'm your mother. Now do me a favor and jerk off your stepdad, I'm not feeling it and he's horny.
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>>46078062

My point was that you chug dongs cakeboi, and you're waifu is a slut.
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how do you guys know when somebody is mad?

is it because they dont have sweet memes that prove how funny everything is to them?

i think i need to go ahead and make a meme folder to be like the cool guys
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>>46078099
>chug dong
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>>46078103

Everyone post a meme for this guy, hes got less memes than Estonia, they at least have the one.
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>>46078123
Ew. Memes are gross.
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>>46078103
>>46078123
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>>46078103
>>46078123
What if you're both mad? What if you both need to drop it and stop all this shitposting? Just throwing ideas here.
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>>46074843
Sidisi Zombie tribal just came
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>>46078168

>SIWMAE

whats the reference on this one?

how do i know when to post it?
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I'M NOT FUCKING MAD FUCK
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>>46078197
its a dark souls spin on the "how horrifying" meme, google it, my little memester
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Just delete the thread and try again
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>>46078197
It's how an NPC greets you in Dark Souls. Whoever made that picture thought it was funny. There is no deeper meaning.
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>>46078182

thats not possible

he has too much meme evidence proving his lack of mad
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>>46078206
You should have just said so from the start.
>>46078216
Why? So we can make a new thread with no shitposting? You think that will work?
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>All this shitposting
>ctrl f Puma
>zero results

to what end?
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>>46078276
>ctrl f Puma
>1 result
Why would you lie about this?
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>>46078286
That wasn't supposed to be funny, but it be.
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>>46076510
Goddamnit, /edhg/, pick a side already and stop being tsundere cunts about everything.
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>>46078286

It's a meme bro, I'm memeing you

#memed
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>>46074026
Hana best girl.
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Sol Ring and Mana Crypt should be banned.
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>Rule Question?

Must Cumulative Upkeep still be paid when a Creature is currently Phased out?
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>>46078394

Obviously, but they wont be.
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>>46078413
Its in exile, why would you need to pay a cost?
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>>46078413

not if its currently phased out no

but the upkeep doesnt reset either, you just missed one age counter
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>>46078445

phased out is very different from exiled
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>>46078445
>Its in exile, why would you need to pay a cost?
Phasing is not exile. Go home.
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Are we trying to be the worst MtG thread on /tg/?
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>>46078468
>>46078477
Oh youre right, always had in my mind that they get exiled during phasing, hm..
Anyway, you still don't need to pay it if it occurs while phased out.
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>>46078504

what does a good mtg thread look like?

seems like a pipe dream
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>>46074843
Pretty neat. Goes well in a zombie tribal. Him and grave Titan could get annoying real fast.
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>>46078527
We had some good /edhg/ threads in the past. Few of them, but still, they happened once in a while. It was glorious.
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>>46078570

Before we had a general the EDH thread quality was really good, general threads just turn into shit and can never be fixed.
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>>46077974
Anybody who spams memes is automatically the maddest poster, so I would vote le epic memester is madder, but both are idiots.
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>>46078930
This doesn't have to be a contest, everyone can be mad and a faggot without us trying to rank them based on how mad they are. The moment two anons get into the "you're more mad than me" argument, they both lose that argument. They're both humongous faggots who should get off the Internet to do something more productive, like drinking bleach.
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>>46078193
Ah run Sidisi in Marchesa.
He sure is a lot of fun.
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What should I put my angel cards into? Mono white tribal? Mono white angel/solider? Thought about putting them with mayeal or tolsimir wolfblood
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Jeez I leave for a couple hours and the thread devolves into anarchy
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>>46079860
>mono-white

Don't do it to yourself, anon.

>tolsimir

Eeeeeeeh....

>Mayael

Card advantage, colors with ramp, a good effect on your general, contains both red and white for all the cool boros angels...seems good to me, amigo!
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>>46079873
As if you could have prevented any of that, faggot. It would have been even worse with you here.
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>>46079928
Well I would have talked deck ideas and brewing and stuff

That new blue flipper looks alright
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How much did I fuck up?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/cult-2/
I thought playing for shadowborn apostle would be fun but it feels so slow that I might be better off just trying to ramp for the demons. Or just use Shirei for general sac shenanigangs
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>>46079985
I'll fuck your new blue flipper, faggot.
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I just started playing after friends invited me to play one night! Played with Omnath as a commander. It was really fun.

When SOI comes out, I wanted to try and build my own deck!
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R8 my commanders, m8s

Thassa Kraken tribal
Kytheon Soldier tribal
King Macar artifacts
Shu Yun prowess
UG Ezuri tokens
Meren goodstuff
Sydri artifacts
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>>46077506
>people who run decks designed to push games past the 1-hour mark
I don't understand
do people find this fun?
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>>46072873
>obviously fake name
>obviously fake art
>low resolution
>that black rectangle background
>all these newfags thinking this is a real card

Not a very clever prank, but it is working spectacularly on these doofuses.

Welcome to neo-/tg/ guys!
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>>46080306

Are you done?
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My legendary prediction for the new werewolf from the spoiler thread;
"Gian Daru, Private Eye". Whenever you cast a creature spell, investigate. If you investigate three or more times each turn, transform Gian Daru.

"Ulvenwald Wherewolf" Trample, Vigilance. When Ulvenwald Wherewolf is transformed, put three white 1/1 sheep creatures with "(1) Tap to sacrifice this creature, gain one life" on the battlefield under your control. If you control no sheep creatures at the beginning of your next end step, transform Ulvenwald Wherewolf.

Flavor text on the front- "Tonight we'll catch the sheep thief, I'm sure of it!"
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>>46080444
Change 1/1 sheep to 0/1 goat and make the text on the werewolf be "tap, sacrifice a goat: gain 3 life"

Goat tribal incoming
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>>46080444

Everything about this is fucking stupid
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>>46080444
Back to the containment thread with you.
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Another card for pedo tribal EDH with Karlov as general

any other suggestions?
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>>46081065
>pedo tribal EDH
Is this because of the rumored Sheldon Menery child pornography scandal?
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>>46080444

My proposed changes:

Side 1
Pate, Ulvenwald shepard boy
Legendary Human
3G

1/4

T: Tap target creature you control. Put a 1/1 sheep creature with "(1) Tap to sacrifice this creature, gain one life" on the battlefield under your control.
At the beginning of each upkeep, if no spells were cast last turn, transform Pate, Ulvenwald shepard boy.

Flavor: When the boy grew bored, he would run to the village yelling "Wolf! Wolf! Come help!"

Side 2
sheep-stealer werewolf
R
5/2
Haste, Trample
When Sheep Stealer Werewolf transforms, tap all creatures target player controls.
at the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice a sheep. If you can't. transform sheep-stealer werewolf.

Flavor: When the wolf finally came, the villagers did nothing.
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>>46080444
>>46081308
Fuck off to the containment thread you cuck.
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>>46081451
that's not very nice, it's not like there is a lot of conversation here that we are disrupting. speculating on potential future commanders is perfectly legitimate for an edh thread.
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>>46080257
>When their only wincon is the opponent conceding
I literally had a guy tell me that even he didn't find his "fun-police" deck fun. It was designed to make the game unfun. I've met too many people like this. All smug, neckbearded, spergy, moneydeck or proxydeck dullards who don't understand why people play games with each other.
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>>46081537
>it's not like there is a lot of conversation here that we are disrupting
This general is best when it's dead, at least then there's no shitposting.
>speculating on potential future commanders is perfectly legitimate for an edh thread.
No, fuck you. You're not speculating on anything, you're just making shitty custom cards. That belongs in custom card threads.
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>>46081065
Blood Bairn
Blessed Spirits
That one zombie from the theros block that makes dead kid tokens
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>>46081537
You're not speculating, you're designing utter shit custom cards. The card you made was so garbage it's incredible.
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>here there buddy, how about these other two guys don't get to play their commanders. Deal?
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>>46081634
>>46081596
>hating fun this much
well you are playing the right format for it, i guess.
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>>46081643
>doesn't even stop Derevi
Remove shitbird from format please
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>>46081666
We don't hate fun, we hate your shitty custom cards. I think that was pretty clear. Was it not clear to you? Do you have severe mental retardation?
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>>46081065
Little Girl if your playgroup is ok with non-chaos Unglued.
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>>46081696
look friend, there is no reason to get so hot in the head about this. My buddy up there made a post with a custom card. I made a post in response. That was it! No harm was done. The only reason we are still talking about it is because you have this obsessive need to punish people for liking what you don't like.

I'll make you a deal - I won't say any more about it if you won't.
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>>46081065
Close enough?
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>>46081743
You got called out for posting shit in the wrong thread, just take it and move on instead of trying to defend your anonymous honor or whatever it is you're doing with this last post.
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>>46081804
Just fucking ignore him, he obviously cares too much about getting the last word in.
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>>46081804
I'm just saying that you are getting too upset about this.

Here, I will make a card for you!

Irrational Anger
SOrecery
XR
Whenever a poster says something you don't like, make X posts in response. Take X damage.

Flavor: Fuck of to the containment thread you cuck
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>>46081065
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>>46081876
>I literally can't leave a thread without getting the last word
>I think calling people mad is winning at arguments
>>46043634
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>>46081940
I'm not trying to win an argument. I am only saying that when you shitpost, you only hurt yourself.
And as for needing the last word, I think that you are as guilty as I am on that account.
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>>46081965
>I literally can't leave a thread without getting the last word
>I think calling people mad is winning at arguments
>>46043634
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>>46081977
>>I literally can't leave a thread without getting the last word
>>I think calling people mad is winning at arguments
>>>46043634 → →
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>>46073770
Hey, I'm building this guy right now. He was the first creature that really interested me when I first started playing magic. Time to give him a second life in EDH

Any must-have cards I should put in?
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>>46082018
depends on how much power you are looking for. He makes for a fun political commander, so I run him with a lot of voting cards and things like Azor's Elocuters
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>>46082056
heres my decklist
http://deckstats.net/decks/54826/444447-edh-politics-pacifism/en

scrounging for the cards on pucatrade now
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>>46081743
>We should both be mature about this and let me have the last word
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>>46082189
look friend, I'm just here because I derive erotic pleasure from causing strangers on the internet to become mildly annoyed. You are the one who is flicking the tip of my penis and calling me a whore.
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>>46082147
Looks fun. I'm not sure Isperia is doing a lot of work here - you won't be attacked enough to get the card draw, and there are cheaper ways to deter attack. I would increase your counterspells or look at ways to more reliably add hexproof - things like felidar sovereign, medomai the ageless, and Azor's Elocuters will need protection from removal.

glacial chasm is also good.
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>>46082468
I'm trying to keep black-and-white control to a minimum and keep everything in the grey -- make players decide whether or not to do something with a tax and some lobbying while not outright forbidding it. thanks for the tips though. I'll probably change it up after I've had some play time with it
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GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD!
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>>46083331
It's terrible
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>>46083331
It's nice if you're playing combo in a casual environment. :^)
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>>46083331
It's not a card I would play so I can't really comment on how powerful, fun or useful it might be. But I'm sure it will see a good deal of play.

I'm more of a Doomsday kind of guy.
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>>46083331
that's really bad
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>>46083331

Shit.

Diabolic Revelation isn't a great card and this is way, way worse than that.
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>>46080257
his deck was supposed to win with a guttersnipe combo but it got countered and it was literally his only wincon other than nekkusar's 1dmg ability.
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>>46083448
Unless you actually want to discard your hand, but yeah. Card seems bad. Maybe if you have ludicrous amounts of mana from Cabal Coffers shenanigans, or power it out with rituals and tutor YawgsWill as one of your three cards. But I'm not excited about it. Then again I'm not a huge black combo player so I may not actually know what the fuck I'm talking about (note: this is always a very real and likely possibility with any opinion expressed about anything in this general).
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Seems a little bit better than diabolical revelation to me

1 mana cheaper seems more important than keeping your original hand when you get to basically tutor a winning hand

With that said, both cards are very win-more in that they are most effective when you can tutor and play the cards you get all in one turn, which requires cabal coffers or crypt ghast etc
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>>46083724
yeah the turn after you lay that down in multiplayer you will pretty much be ganged up on entirely if you don't use the cards immediately.
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>>46083816
This is EDH we're talking about. I've seen players tutor unmolested turn after turn, and when opponents were asked why they let that happen, they replied "He has an empty board, he's not much of a threat".
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Which is more fun, Prime Speaker Zegana or Animar?
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EDH storytime! (1/2)
Playing kami of the crescent moon tonight at LGS commander night.
Playing against rhys the redeemed, aurelia the warleader, and meren.
Mid game, everyone has OK boardstates, but Rhys has about 25-35 permanents.
I got quite a few defensive enchantments, so he's inclined not to swing at me. He's already dealt with silent arbiter, pendrell mists, porticullus, crawlspace, etc.
On my turn, drop glacial chasm.
Rhys player gets huge shit-eating grin as he draws on his turn,
"This is the last turn, definitely."
Proceeds to craterhoof/coat of arms with the 30 mana he has open.
Shiteatinggrin.jpg
"OK I swing with my guys at all 3 of you to end the game, gg guys".
Meren player points at glacial chasm, "except for that guy".
Rhys guy looks confused, asks me to repeat what it does.
I laugh, as this guy works at the LGS and doesn't know GC.
I say "you don't know glacial chasm? It's a format staple! "
He says quickly that it isn't, and shrugs. Kills off other two players, leaving me and rhys.
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>>46083895
Both are UGx cancer.

You deserve to be killed by infect
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>>46083946
I don't play competitively. When I play EDH I mostly just like to play big creatures and splashy spells.
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>>46083938

Anon, we already know that everyone who plays Craterhoof is a disgusting degenerate who is shit at the game.

We don't need a story about it.
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>>46083938
2/2
My turn starts, pay 2 life for chasm (I have 55 due to ivory tower). Draw two cards, hold onto forbid and pass turn.
He genisis waves X=20, gets a shitload of elves and trample/overrun effects. His strip mine is already gone, exiled from meren earlier. Seeing this isn't enough, he activates nykthos.
He continues to green sun's zenith for 20 mana, trying to find something to deal with GC.
Nothing.
He is getting visibly frustrated at this point.
Mfw he wipes because "I don't even want to waste my time dealing with that, I'm done for the night".
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>>46084083
What kind of shitter doesn't run acidic slime/bramblecrush/worldbreaker?

He's playing elves, he should have reclamation sage at the very least.
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>>46084193
>my dumbass forgot rec sage can't blow up lands.

I should get some sleep.
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>>46084193
>>46084215
That and World breaker only triggers on cast.
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>>46084193

If you're in green and running Green Sun's Zenith then there's basically no excuse for not running both Acidic Slime and Woodfall Primus.
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>>46084229
He can still sac it and bring it back to his hand
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>>46084269
If he has 10 extra mana, yes. And sac it with what exactly?
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>>46084298
Ashnod's Altar is good in every edh deck. No exceptions. That and he could sacrifice it to greater good for card draw.

He's playing green elves. 10 extra mana is fucking nothing.
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>>46084298

Remember, the situation I question involved a Genesis wave for a thousand, etc

So the dude had plenty of mana he just didn't have any land destruction
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>>46084365
>No exceptions.
How to spot someone who's wrong in one easy step.
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>>46084298

>He genisis waves X=20, gets a shitload of elves and trample/overrun effects. His strip mine is already gone, exiled from meren earlier. Seeing this isn't enough, he activates nykthos.
>He continues to green sun's zenith for 20 mana, trying to find something to deal with GC.

I think it's pretty firmly established he had 10 mana to spare
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>>46084385
>not packing any LD

What a goober
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>>46084365
>>46084385
I suppose that's true.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the guy. The fact that he didn't have something as simple as a Ghost Quarter along with his Strip Mine is ridiculous.
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>>46084391
>"I've never played green" the post
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>>46084429
How is this about green? It's about this you complete retard
>Ashnod's Altar is good in every edh deck. No exceptions
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>>46083970
all the more reason not to play UG
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>>46084444
>ramps you with sac fodder while guaranteeing sad golem's card draw
>gets around shit like ixidron, darksteel mutation, and petrification counters while also helping against auras like song of the dryads and pussyfism if you're playing black or red
>saves your commander from tuck effects. Tuck meta is still very alive and kicking
>all while being instant speed

Do me a favor and stop posting. Bonus points if you stop playing EDH altogether.
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>>46084539

>wrong opinions!!!!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
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>Tangible Virtue (something along those lines)
>1WW
>Nontoken creatures you control gain +1/+1 and have vigilance.
>no idea on the flavor text
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>>46084539
You're saying Ashnod's Altar is good in every EDH deck, no exceptions. No matter the color. No matter the commander or archetype. Every last EDH deck. Think about what you're saying. Jesus Christ you're a retard, anon.
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>>46084682
were they really that direct? I have seen people referring to it as tangible virtue but I assumed it was a reference to pic related.
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>>46084682
It's Endless Watch

The flavor text is a prayer to Avacyn.
"we pray to Avacyn of the heavens.
Avacyn, who fearlessly fly on pure white wings, guard our souls and guard our lives. May the angels watch over us from the sky"

something like that. The text is making my eyes bleed
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>>46075326
Should have stolen the sol ring
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>friend playing his bant enchantress deck
>plays enchanted evening
>generally nice guy, but can get a little smug and has no poker face, so I instantly knew he either had primeval light or aura shards in his hand
>drop a bane of progress and regenerate it
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I can't get my Ulasht to work, man. It sucks.

I wanted to make RG tokens that wasn't just another Thromok (there are 3 in my meta), but it just isn't working. What should I do now?
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/swell-the-host-modification/

I need some quick advice here. Would BfZ Nissa work in this deck? Or am I wasting time with Ezuri experience where I could instead be putting in counters and boardwipes?

I figure if I threw her in she'd replace shit like the patagia viper or something.
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>>46081308
Ignore the haters, this is really cool, especially the fluff text
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Running a Sliver Overlord EDH and this baby is going right in it the moment it gets released. It's not great, but it's easy to pull out with five tokens powered by Gemhide or manaweft.
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Here's hoping we'll get some skellies or Undying-ish mechanics for my Skellie Ship tribal deck some time this block.
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>>46086037
>encouraging custom card shit in non-custom card threads
Your opinion on the quality of his custom card is irrelevant to the fact this is the wrong thread to post this in. You do NOT want people to start posting all their dumb card ideas in any random MtG thread, the containment thread was created for a reason.
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>>46086536
>this colorless land with situational upside is going right into my 5-color deck
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Which of the Commander Precons are the best to play with out of the box?

is the Golgari or the Grixis precons any good?
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>>46084539
Playing creatureless teferi stax? Don't forget ashnod's altar, it's good in every deck!
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>>46086867
>This land that generates mana for queen and creates a 9/7 hard to kill motherfucker is going to be just fine in my 5-color deck.
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>>46086880
the B/W, U/G, and B/G are all good.
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>>46086888
My bad, I didn't know you had a creature that can use generic mana. I stand corrected, you should totally run all the colorless lands you can get your hands on, there's no downside!
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>>46086924
I bet you don't even play dual lands in your sliver deck.
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>>46085789
It's just swell the host with some fat trimmed, I'm not expecting someone to critique the entire deck.
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>>46086880
Thought the BUG one with Mimeoplasm was the best by a lot.
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>>46086880

Prossh works perfect right from the box
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>>46086960
I don't actually run a sliver deck, which is probably why I didn't immediately understand how powerful it is to run a colorless land so you can occasionally pay 6 and sacrifice a land along with five slivers (in a sliver deck) to make some flying fatty.

I mean, I didn't get why that was something a sliver player would want to do, but you're the sliver player here, you obviously know best.
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