I mean it's not even that good of a deck and yet this faggot is $15.
In other news, have you accepted Dredge as your Lord and Savior yet /tg/?
I still refuse to stop running this until I go at least 3/4 with it.
what cards from the Ravinca City of Guilds draft should I be lookin for?
>>46062586
Dredge is trash.
Yard hate is so easy to access too
>>46062658
Who the fuck has GY hate in this Eldrazi infested shitstain meta?
>>46062635
do you play online? one of my buddies uses this deck and literally spends the whole deck on a zombie apocalypse. Its a cool idea but backfires when I have a soul warden out
>>46062678
All 15 sideboard cards are for eldrazi? Lol okay
>>46062586
It helps to put MTG in the name for those of us that use the search function.
>>46062586
>15$ Legion Loyalist
Well, this is the most ridiculous thing I've read on /tg/ all day, which is saying a lot since I'm also in the thread where people are arguing over Alesha and Olivia's dick-having status.
>>46062586
what'd i miss? what's the hottest meme on the block and what does this guy do in it?
>>46062709
Literally no one runs GY hate except Jund and Junk with Ooze and your run off the mill white splash deck with RIP.
Also
>thinking just any GY hate shuts down dredge
It would take at least 2 RIPs to shut it down. Enjoy your Memory's Journey if it's any other hate card.
>>46062738
Go check the price, it's around $15
>>46062740
8whack goblins because of that mtggoldfish article. It used to be cheap, now it's well above $100
>>46062767
>Go check the price, it's around $15
I'm not saying it's false, I'm just saying it's ridiculous.
>>46062738
>mfw I was just there
God dammit /tg/! Oh well, what deck is this shit played in and why should I care?
>>46062749
Lol stay delusion with your bad deck
>>46062680
Nah I play at LGSes. Just 4x treasure hunt, 4x reliquary tower, 1x zombie infestation, 51x basic lands.
I've gone 2/4 with it, I've beaten $600+ decks with it. I just want to get that sexy 3/4 and call it good, then I'll move on to my precious pic related.
>>46062586
It's a speculator's market now. Remember to short quick and short big before it's too late.
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-66-21-tix-modern-8-whack-goblins
the deck for anyone interested.
>>46062586
>>46062767
idk what your talking about.
>>46062834
Hey, as long as I'm winning packs every FNM you can call it whatever you want
>>46062925
As long as you keep lying
>>46062940
You sound upset senpai, are you that insecure a deck like that can do well? After all it did top 8 a GP
Well shit, guess I ought to offload mine now while people are still memeing on this shit.
>>46062767
Did it even top8 anything relevant? I'm only finding MTGO games on YouTube.
>>46062586
>>46062767
>>46062910
well shit i forgot the comments would also cap. heres without the comments
Should I build Kiki chord or tron with my tax return?
>>46062980
GP Melbourne
>>46062749
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>>46063017
Tron if you're a mouth breather
Kiki Chord if you like to tell people how difficult and skill intensive your decks are when they really aren't
>>46063059
Memory's Journey
>>46063140
Oh no, 3 cards are now somewhere in your library?! How horrifying
>>46063219
And you also pretty much wasted a card as well.
>>46063059
>Somehow he always draws hate in EVERY game
Love this meme. I bet you always assume you draw Blood Moon and that Affinity is a shit deck because of Stony Silence too
>>46063247
So did you
>>46063280
But it's okay when you draw journey every time?
Looking to get into modern when Eldrazi is banned.
What deck should I play?
I would like to play either a proactive/disruptive card advantage shell that I can switch cards in and out of according to the metagame. ie Shardless BUG in legacy
Or a keep up the aggro while I grind you out with recursive cards deck. ie aggro loam, goblins in legacy.
>>46063346
Of course not. The point is you don't always draw hate, and I don't always draw Journey. If it were that easy most decks in Modern would die off
>>46062865
Share a list with a homie
>>46062638
The most powerful cards from the set*
>>46063028
Can't find coverage online. Organizer was ChainLinks, apparently. Do they even have a YouTube or Twitch channel?
>>46063547
Not sure. All focus was on Detroit
>>46063280
The difference is Affinity is a good deck, and dredge is not. Stony Silence is to Affinity as RIP is to Dredge, except affinity actually wins games.
>>46062586
>When the meme deck runs flip Jace
>>46063139
You're a retard, and every deck that isn't yours is for nerds we understand. Also Kiki Chord does have a decently high skill ceiling as far as modern's concerned. There are tons of lines in the deck, and lots of ways to adjust it to your meta. Yeah it can win game with beats, but an actually educated kiki chord player with a build they tuned will win a ton more games than your average player could just picking up the deck.
>>46063678
Lol upset much?
Every pilot of that deck is up his ass so far. I never said the deck was brain dead. You need to calm down
>>46063636
And yet you have Stony Silence, Fracturing Gusts, Vandalblasts, Creeping Corrosions as well. Don't expect affinity to always win with that kind of hate. It's when people don't respect affinity that it wins, same shit happens when you don't respect most matchups like Living End, Elves or Ad Nauseam
More control decks should run Deprive as a 2-of
>>46063735
Wow bro nice anecdotal evidence. In my personal opinion the deck is more challenging to pilot than most other modern decks and I'll stand behind that. I don't think it's the end all be all skill intensive modern deck, you're the one who started talking shit about it. I bet you play burn
>>46063902
>don't say bad things about my deck
>lol burn is so ez amirite
I don't play burn and you should leave until you hit 18 years of age
>>46063652
>tiny pictures
>long line of cards
>Name Br
>eaks
Why do people post decklists of this shitty program?
>>46063759
And yet dredge makes up like 2% of the top 8s and I can't recall the last time it placed well in a legit tournament. Sure you can bring up some instance where it did well in some Chinese grand prix trial, but the fact remains that the deck is not that good and when it has literally the most powerful hate cards to shut it down, it's just not viable.
T. Scavenging Ooze
>>46063943
I don't care if you want to say bad things about the deck, I'm just saying youre wrong and a retard.
>>46063964
>Not knowing every card in the modern format
>Not playing the with the program that doesn't force 30 minute combo loops
>>46063247
Yeah but he didn't have memory's journey in his deck
>>46064006
That's pretty unfair though, how many players play Affinity in an event? Compare that with the number of people playing dredge in an event. Even if you cull 75% of affinity players, you'll still have a decent sample size. Affinity is tier 1 because it's popular as fuck, on top of being a good deck if it isn't hated out.
Same shit if you bring out Fracturing Gust vs affinity, you just shut them out
>>46063385
the list is literally 4x treasure hunt, 4x reliquary tower, 1x zombie infestation, 16x swamp, 35x island.
There might be some utility lands that would make it better, but the pure minimalism of the deck is why I like it so much. It's like flipping a couple of coins, if both are heads and your opponent isn't running blue, you win the game on turn 4.
>>46064087
>not taking pride in your decks
>not presenting them in an aesthetically-pleasing manner
>>46064155
Do you understand why a deck is popular friend?
>>46064155
>Affinity is tier 1 because it's popular as fuck
correlation and causation, friend. you have them reversed.
is there any replacement for goyf in a G/B deck?
I was thinking mandrils or even pack rat since Lili will hopefully be out most of the time anyway and I can ditch lands
>>46064319
What 2 drops are you already running?
>>46064319
No. Get a job and stop being poor.Or take a visit toVilla Zheng.
>>46064362
Scooze is pretty much it for creatures.
I was gonna go with Bob but I think Tasigur is in so that seems dangerous.
>>46064373
I'm not really poor if I'm getting lili's and the rest. I just don't have the money for Goys as well at the moment and I have a hard time paying that for a beater. A great beater, but vanilla nonetheless
>>46062586
>I mean it's not even that good of a deck and yet this faggot is $15.
I saw mention of it in a previous thread and since I only had 1, bought a playset for $33 shipped on a whim.
Will probably go down since it's mediocre, but I don't really care.
>>46064424
No, you're not really poor. Just if you're not getting goyfs, you're still kinda poor.
>>46064456
Ah, I getcha.
>>46064456
Who doesn't have goyfs? Even poor people have goyfs at my store.... except for kids.
>>46064491
Yes, we get it, you have several goyfs
>>46064456
>paying 600 dollars for cardboard
Literally how could you justify that? Assuming you make 30k disposable a year, that's 1/50th of what you earn. That means that 1/50th of your work day, for a fucking year, is dedicated to paying for this Tarmogoyf. Think about it man.
>>46064491
>tfw instead of foil goyfs I put a down payment on a Cadillac.
>>46064565
Not him but most people spend more than that on junk food, booze, video games, etc.
>>46064584
>having a nice car
It's like you're purposely trying to attract girls instead of repel them so you can focus more on magic
>>46064491
>he thinks they're all real
>>46064612
You know how much junk food, booze and video games once can enjoy for the cost of a playset of goyfs?
I just wish they would print better 2 drops so Goyf isn't so far ahead
>>46064636
All that shit is fleeting though
Goyfs are eternal
>>46064683
If sylvan advocate required only four lands to be big, we would have a pretty sweet budget replacement
6 lands just seems too many to compete with goyf
>>46064629
>implying otherwise
Yeah... some of the grades are shitty, but the important part is that you're wrong.
>>46064769
if it required 4 land to be big it wouldn't be budget.
>>46064624
Yeah, this is my girl and she's a dime. She's a virgin and she loves me very much. Also we play Magic together, she actually just came in 3/4th at a PTQ, she runs a pretty sweet Blue Moon deck. It's great having a girlfriend you can playtest brews with and bounce ideas off. She got into it around Return to Ravnica playing standard, and we have just had the best time playing together ever since.
>>46064789
>virgin
>girlfriend
I know this is fake, but I feel sorry for all the people who this isn't fake for.
>>46064789
Don't talk to me about that normie crap!!!
>playing games with girls
>being in the same room as girls
>>46064785
Look at the cuts, m8. Half the fake goyfs aren't even from the same batch.
>>46064789
>It's great having a girlfriend you can playtest brews with and bounce ideas off.
relationship goals. it's like a best friend that you can gaze into their eyes in bed in the wee hours of the morning. its someone you love spending your time with doing what you enjoy, and being able to stroke their hair and kiss them goodnight. friendship, passion, as well as common interest. im happy you found someone you love, anon.
>>46064789
>>46064833
Except it's not fake, she likes me for who I am, which is weird cause I'm a fat aspie and she goes to one of the best schools and is getting her masters in chemical engineering. You'd be surprised how good she is at Magic, just blows my mind some of the decks she makes, she is just incredible at adapting to a meta. We've both agreed to wait out Eldrazi tho
>>46064860
lol gay
>>46064842
>Look at the cuts, m8. Half the fake goyfs aren't even from the same batch.
I bought those back in '07. I doubt they're fakes.
>>46064904
How much do you make? How rich is your family?
>>46064904
Of course man, she's sleeping with someone else on the side while you are her entertainment / monetary support.
>>46062865
>Infestation
>not Lightning Storm
>not running Gemstone Caverns for dat T1 combo
>not Quicksand for dat utility if you need it
C'mon mane
>>46062910
I always love how the comments from people on TCGplayer often come from complete losers
Also, that Brett Viker autist posts a comment on EVERY FUCKING CARD
>>46062586
>pulled this goober in a triple RTR draft last summer
>sitting in my bulk doing nothing
>suddenly giant price jump
What the fuck, I just can't understand speculation and gouging
>>46065057
I find it sad that you are even aware of his existence.
>>46065057
>>I always love how the comments from people on TCGplayer often come from complete losers
Do you know any of them personally? Do you have any knowledge of who they are beyond their comments?
>>46064982
>>46065014
I literally have no money. She actually just bought me a playset of Tarns so I could officially finish my URW midrange deck that I've been playing forever. We just bought a nice car together because her internship is going really well, but all I have in life is a small business I run that should be reasonably profitable in a few years. In the meantime we play Magic together. Also her family is stupid rich, but she never asks them for money, but whatever.
I'm still playing pestimite in a kiki resto tempo deck. I'm addicted. Help me
>>46063352
Either Jund or Abzan is probably the deck your looking for. Both are G/B value decks that grind out games, just obviously not as much value as Shardless Bug.
>>46065102
Why not just play kiki control? Why the pestermite?
>>46064565
>30k disposable a year
>1/50th of what you earn and work day
I wish I had $0 in bills and taxes.
Also
>why do people pay money for electronic beeps and boops
>why do people pay money digital pictures in a glowing box
>why do people pay money for feel good drinks that you piss out and get a headache from a few hours later
>who do people live if they just die
>>46063652
WHY THE FUCK IS FAERIE MACABRE GOOD?
>>46064319
Mandrills, Angler and Tasigur.
>>46065364
Because it removes threats in your opponent's graveyard before Living End resolves.
>>46065362
>why do people live if they just die
:(
>>46062638
Karoos and vedalken dismisser are two off the top of my head, seriously, draft the bounce lands like your life depends on it, they encourage a slow grindy format and muscle out really anything else in the format. Just go for value, the aggresive decks are mediocre and if you can stabilize you'll win against any deck with the card advantage running karoos give you, granted, everyone who's played the format knows this, so be careful.
>>46065074
If it's a cheap deck to make, like 8whack, then there's going to be 2-4 cards that are retardedly expensive
>>46065018
Lightning storm is one extra mana and two red devotion. I can get zombie infestation on the field on turn 3-4 consistently, making it more difficult to counter. A reliquary tower and one blue are required, so lightning storm can't be played on turn three in a shitty situation, and can't be played on turn four with treasure hunt.
Try actually testing the deck, armchair player.
>>46065654
Yeah, people just buyout the relatively cheap but easily best cards in the deck and then jew it up. I've see it hundreds of times.
>>46065411
Isn't Living End already a good matchup?
>>46065364
I put it in my deck just for affinity. When they sac everything to ravager in response to living end I get rid of that shit and give myself a 2/2 flyer. It's legit won me some first games that I would have lost otherwise. The fact that hosing the graveyard is also potent against midrange decks with goyf is a bonus. (I know that's less relevant in eldrazi meta but there's still a jund and a junk player at my shop)
Just started on Infect here.
How does Infect normally fight a Burn deck? Lost to two Burn players in a row tonight and it felt like there was no hope.
>>46066206
Vines, double pumps. You play better then them is how you win. You have to goad them into bolting when it's good for you.
>>46066310
Should I look towards keeping several creatures in hand then?
One burn player pointed all of his burn at me and the other had optimal removal along with early eidolons.
>>46066206
Accidentally cause him to spill his water on his cards, watch him run to the bathroom to get paper towels. Call a judge for slow play.
>>46066310
Any Burnie worth their salt knows to use targeted removal on their own turn, forcing the Infect player to waste Vines/pumps without getting a damage bonus. It's a piss-poor matchup for Infect, as is any removal-heavy deck (like Grixis).
>>46066367
Sideboard gheist or that shit that gives +3+3 when targeted
>>46065079
>I find it sad that you are even aware of his existence.
It's just one of those things you notice after a long period of time
What if the new Jace's +1 was Ponder?
Would he be a staple then?
>>46066715
>5cmc
>>46065057
It's funny all the "women" who comment are just ugly guys.
>>46066739
Would a 5cmc JTMS not be played?
>>46066595
Geist? The only white source is noble heiarch.
I did bring in wild defiance but I can't deal with a t2 eidolon unless I take a shitton of damage
making a b/g rat deck, which cards should I add? anything with rodent related art work requested!
>Trying to scrounge together all the bulky bits of 8wack
Fuck me this is annoying.
>>46066888
Just throw in a temple garden
>order card I need from low-key vendor
>get tracking number
>picked up in <my city>, <state>
>look them up online
>they're literally 5 miles down the road
>it's going to take 2 days to get to my house with USPS
JUST
>>46067156
>Order cards I need from a vendor that rhymes with Roll and Road.
>First time ordering, cards arrived as described
>Second time ordering, cards never arrived
>Third time ordering, card arrived damaged
>Fourth time ordering, card never arrived
>Fifth time ordered, cards arrived damaged
>Had to open a case for each incident, another case may make it seem that I am trying to scam them
Why the fuck are they so shit at shipping cards?
>>46066206
Wild Defiance
>>46066829
Not in modern, no.
>>46065362
>who do people live if they just die
I JUST WANT TO GET OFF MR BONES WILD RIDE
>>46067236
If they do, you have nobody but yourself to thank for still buying from someone after failing your order 5 out of 6 fucking times.
>>46063028
That's a filthy fucking lie.
>>46065362
>I wish I had $0 in bills and taxes.
Do you not know what "Disposable income" is you fucking illiterate faggot
>>46062980
>>46063028
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpmel16/top-8-decklists-2016-03-06
3 Eldrazi, 3 Living End, 1 Dredge and 1 Abzan Company. No fucking 8Whack.
>>46067655
Obviously you're an illiterate faggot because you can't even read your own post.
>Assuming you make 30k disposable a year
>That means that 1/50th of your work day
You work for more than disposable income you NEET cuck. People who work don't use such autistic comparisons either.
>>46062987
>Channel Fireball
>in cart
Oy vey.
>>46064789
Where'd you buy her? How many foil dual lands did you have to trade?
>>46067729
>buying singles for pauper decks and cube
>see ChannelFireball offering the same for damaged as another store offers for NM
>they throw on shipping costs too
Man fuck that shit.
>>46062586
Shit, I still have a playset of these fuckers. Should I go flip these at my LGS?
>>46067876
The one good thing about ChannelGoyimball is that when they say "Damaged"... it's usually MP at worst. Their grading criteria is so strict I've literally sold them cards I've bought from them and had them mark them down from NM to SP.
>>46067923
I've had cards straight out of the booster into a sleeve marked LP. I haven't heard of a single person being given a NM grade. pretty sure its them jewing everyone but whatever
>>46068019
I just sent them a bunch of stuff, I'll let people know how it goes. I've heard mixed results.
>>>46062865 inb4 pyroclasm?
>>46063770
Logic Knot is better unless you have a big commitment to delve.
And if your deck is playing Tasigur and Angler then you‘re agressive enough to run Mana Leak as your main 2 mana counter.
>>46068299
Grindy control decks like UW/UWr/Blue Moon can easily justify running Deprive over Blue Moon though. 2 mana counter anything with a "drawback" that doesn't exist for them since by the time they're using it they likely have 5-6 lands out. Something like 3-4 Mana Leak, 0-4 Remand(depending on the deck obv), 2-3 cryptic, and 1-2 deprive seems like an extremely solid counter suite.
>>46068375
>over blue moon
Over Logic Knot*
And I think the Deprives would usually take the Spell Snare spot now that I think about it. Not sure which one I like more now...
>>46064373
Why do you fuckers think that people who dont feel like spending a bazillion on cards doesnt have a job? Theres other shit id rather spend money on
New Jace went from $15 pre order to $30
What happened?
>>46068402
Then why post?
>Is there a replacement for <money card>?
No, there isn't. That's why it's the fucking money card. It is in demand and the best card for what you're doing. It's so fucking annoying that even the cucks at MTGSalvation ban people who post asking that question.
>>46068453
He has a very nice coat
stop throwing money at these people. GD use your brains. paying 40-50$ for paper.
>>46068453
The Jace tax. Also pre-orders are always stupid on planeswalkers.
>>46063385
This is the deck he's talking about.
>>46066499
Nope. You take a hit and bolt the infect creature EOT, then you bolt them while they are tapped out.
>>46066900
Swarmyard.
>>46068375
>>46068390
Logic Knot effectively has no downside if you only run 2 copies though. Deprive has a huge downside any time before turn 6+ in a deck that runs mostly shock lands and taplands like Esper or UWR.
Also Deprive is a horrible replacement for Spell Snare. Deprive is tempo loss, it's awful in the early turns, and it forces you to pay life to play your lands more aggressively. Spell Snare is the best on turns one and two and it always trades up in tempo, which allows you to sequence your mana better and survive to the late game.
I wouldn't build a control deck in Modern without 2-4 copies of Snare right now.
>>46068453
Everyone decided they werent risking another vyrns prodigy, its just this is the appology to commander players for a mindsculptor power jace being shit in singleton. Basically everyone has it backwards, twice
>>46069920
>Deprive is tempo loss, it's awful in the early turns, and it forces you to pay life to play your lands more aggressively
This. Daze works in Legacy because your lands don't shock you, Deprive is terribad next to virtually any other option.
>>46068375
>Something like 3-4 Mana Leak, 0-4 Remand(depending on the deck obv), 2-3 cryptic, and 1-2 deprive seems like an extremely solid counter suite.
Instead of running Deprive, you could run Spell Snare to fuck over grindy decks, Spell Pierce to fuck over tempo decks, or a package of Negate/Dispel depending on what you were expecting to face.
"Catch all" counters are extremely shit in Modern, and even Mana Leak only has it's days in the spotlight.
Focus on what you're going to try and neutralize (a Leak/Pierce/Snare/Negate package) rather than trying to diversify your toolkit. Even Counter-Top wouldn't be very consistent in Modern.
>>46069920
Logic Knot definitely has downside. It's not always online when you need it to be, and the 2nd one even less often. Deprive however has almost no downside if you just run 2.
Snare really isn't as good as people make it seem, and deprive really isn't as bad as people make it seem. It's only harmful to your life if you're not searching basics, which with all the maindeck blood moons running around(and will still be after Eldrazi are banned), you should be fetching at least 1 island game 1 every game.
You should be completely comfortable with casting a Deprive with 5 lands in play in this format now, and that's right about after you've already cast the 2 or 3 counters you've had and/or drawn into and Mana Leak starts getting useless. The tempo loss ceases to exist at that point for most decks, and not to mention a lot of the time you don't even have a 6th land to play on turn 6.
Now for the UW/UWr decks that rely on Colonnade, Logic Knot and Spell Snare are definitely better, but for the Resto/Tiago/Omens builds it's perfectly fine because they don't need Colonnade online as much as they need a real counterspell by turns 5+. Grixis can run Deprive just fine as well, but that deck can run literally anything so it doesn't count.
>>46070440
>Logic Knot definitely has downside. It's not always online when you need it to be, and the 2nd one even less often.
In my experience it's almost always online when I need it, especially when you run 8 fetches in the deck. Most early turn plays we REALLY need to counter (T3 Moon, Karn, Lili, or Company) can be hit for Knot X=1. Later in the game you have a huge GY and mana advantage, so casting both Knots is trivial.
>Deprive however has almost no downside if you just run 2.
It does have a downside. It's bad on turn 2-4, which are the turns when 2 mana counters are the most important to have. Those turns are the REASON we play 2 mana counters in the first place.
>Snare really isn't as good as people make it seem
It isn't? That's news to me, because all the evidence points to it being the best counterspell in Modern.
>Deprive really isn't as bad as people make it seem. It's only harmful to your life if you're not searching basics, which with all the maindeck blood moons running around(and will still be after Eldrazi are banned), you should be fetching at least 1 island game 1 every game.
Sometimes fetching basics isn't an option. Even when you can, Deprive still puts you one mandatory turn away from Wrath, Cryptic, or Resto Angel, which are the plays we want to be making.
I can see an argument for running a few Deprives in a more tap-out style deck, where you can stall with Wall/Bitterblossom/Finks/etc, and so making land drops ASAP becomes less important, but it's still a weak card compared to other options.
>>46070584
I guess it really all depends on the deck. Blue Moon can run Deprive, UWr Spell Snares/Knots, Grixis anything
>>46062586
>I mean it's not even that good of a deck and yet this faggot is $15.
It happens for any card that starts to see play in any up and coming deck and if that particular card has only seen one printing. It's happened for everything with Melira, Gaddock Teeg, Stony Silence, Heritage Druid. It's probably going to happen with Rest in Peace as well so pick up copies.
>>46067236
why would you continue to buy from a bad vendor when there are so many out there. you are retarded
Modern playable demon land here. Probably a CoCo 1-of
>>46070709
Abbey of the Eastern Valleys
T: Add <>
5 mana, 1 life T: put a 1/1 Human Cleric token into play
5, sacrifice 5 creatures T: Untap and transform
----------------------
Ormendahl
Flying, lifelink, haste, indestructible
>>46067236
>buying anything from Troll & Toad or Dan Bock
You fucked up, son.
>>46070709
Seems like a tokens finisher.
>>46064565
A lot of people do and they don't think "X time i work is going towards buying a card." They think "X time I work is going to fund a hobby I enjoy". Because normal people with disposable income spend their money on things that make them happy.
>>46065798
Why not for your sideboard put 1x lightning storm and 14 mountains? That's something I've thought about when I was going to build that
I miss when abzan sideturning was the worst thing in modern.
When does new Sorin get spoiled?
>>46071421
Later by LSV I think, since he tweeted about spoiling Arlinn, then Sorin
Speaking of Dredge, looks like this would fit in it? It's worldly tutor on delirium, which dredge should have turn 2, can fetch a squee, fetchland or ghost quarter. Feels iffy but eh
>>46072066
But Moderm Dredge is not a real deck no matter what you put in it.
>>46072209
It top 8 a GP, you can continue calling it not real, it's a 60 card deck with 15 card SB that won a significant event stay upset
>>46070709
>>46071129
>pay 5 mana, sacrifice 5 creatures, get it pathed for 1 mana
certainly sounds like a modern playable
>>46072421
>dies to removal!
Tired of this meme.
>>46072421
OK name the other removal cards in Modern that can kill it.
>>46072463
vapor snag
>>46072463
2 Dismembers
>>46070709
Would tokens be a good deck for this?
>>46072471
>people actually run vapor snag
>>46072482
Might as well late the demon hit you at this point
>>46072532
>8 life, 2 cards and two mana vs 18 point life swing every turn
I mean sure it's going to set you back a lot but it's better than getting hit by him.
>>46072566
The point is if you're going to have to let yourself be set back by that far just to get rid of something that a deck like BW tokens can top deck, windmill slam and activate for the win and can only ever be answered efficiently by PtE, then it's pretty much a good card in its own right
>>46072463
>N-name others
Your shit 5 mana 5 creature investment died to fucking path my man
It's shit
Play it in edh where it isn't
>>46072463
Vapor snag
Abrupt decay
Terminate
Harbinger of the tides
My pet deck runs azorius charm main even.
>>46072600
In black white tokens if he has 5 tokens out how the fuck is he not winning that game?
>>46072609
>indestructible
Derp. Still three good points though.
>>46072609
It's indestructible. Don't tell me you think a good percentage of the meta plays Vapor Snag too.
>>46072618
If he doesn't have an anthem effect
>>46072607
>I literally do not know how to gauge when to sacrifice creatures or read when an opponent has path, I am a retard holy shit
Literally you
>>46072607
It's a fucking land that can generate mana, can shit out dorks while having the threat of inevitability. So you're judging a card like that simply because you think the only use is the flip side? Holy fucking shit
>>46072638
>>I literally do not know how to gauge when to sacrifice creatures or read when an opponent has path, I am a retard holy shit
Holy fuck you're retarded, giving up 10 resources to get in 9 damage is shit in any constructed format,
What fucking deck is this going into? tokens? why the fuck would you want to lose your board when you could just play a sorin instead and get bigger life swing and do more damage?
A chord deck? you can just combo kill with 5 mana and a chord?
Kiki jiki? he's 5 mana and way better than this dogshit
Seriously go back to EDH you drooling retard
>MFW your shit brew goes 0/4
>>46072665
>Shitting out dorks for 5 mana being good
>It-t can p-produce c-colorless mana
>>46072679
>I do not know what utility lands are
Let me guess, you think Vault of the Archangel is terrible too?
>>46072690
Stay bad
>>46072690
>"I don't understand the difference between spending a card to do something and having a land that can continually do something"
wew
>>46072679
The difference is its a land. It isn't a dead draw at literally any points of the game. It gives you more options and presents an uncounterable threat
>>46072719
>5 mana for a 1/1
>INEVITABILITY
How the fuck can you be this bad at magic?
>Opponent casts a boardwipe
>In response turn your tokens into an indestructible threat
I can see it being a 1-of in a token deck.
>>46072709
>Let me guess, you think Vault of the Archangel is terrible too?
Do you have to sac your entire board to vault?
No you don't you fucking moron which is why it's good unlike this dogshit you're peddling
>>46072730
At this point you're just being stupid. You can shit out 1/1 and when the game drags on, especially vs decks like Jund, you can present them a threat they literally cannot answer
>>46072751
It's a fucking 1/1 for 5 mana
I understand you got your first starter deck and the shiny rare at the front inspired you to play modern
but 5 mana for a 1/1 is shit
>>46062586
It's twelve and a good part of a deck people think will do well after the bannings come.
>>46072748
Yes. When you don't have an anthem effect and you need to play the attrition game, you grant death touch to your dorks. It will cost you the board state, but at least it will wipe theirs clean as well.
Honestly I don't even know why I'm arguing with you. If you cannot see the merit of running this at least as 1 of in BW tokens then I don't know what to say. The land literally does everything except tap for colored mana. It doesn't even enters tapped, presents a way to populate the board during grinds and becomes a wincon as well.
>>46072765
Are you intentionally being stupid? So now all you see is the second ability when all you can see awhile ago was the 3rd. Do you only have to think like this?
>>46072609
Terminate and Abrupt Decay won't do shit. Vapor Snag and Harbinger is only seen and played in one deck archetype.
>>46062586
>Have been wanting to make an affinity deck for awhile now
>Bought a few pieces here and there
>Bought 2 ravagers when they were still 20$ each
>Really just wanna finish the deck now
>Ravagers are 60$ a piece now and mox opals are 45$
How likely is affinity going to get a ban do you think? And if so what?
>>46072765
You mean it's a
Land that taps for mana
Land that shits out 1/1 occasionally during grinds
Land that becomes an uncounterable 9/7 hasted, life linking indestructible evasive threat that's a deterrent to boardwipes and another avenue to win
Ayyy check it out.
EDH bait. At least it's fun.
>>46072824
What the hell? I don't even know what to do with that.
>>46072824
>Revealing emrakul with his +
Could be fun
>>46072842
Oloro and Teysa.
>>46072796
Plating or Opal are good candidates.
Opal won't hurt that much, but plating will really put a dent on affinity
>>46072824
Huh, I play a B/W control deck in Standard and this will be an alright slot to replace Solemn Visitor when it goes out.
As for Modern it's too expensive cmc wise for my B/W tokens deck. I can't really think of any other B/W related shell that wants to drop this in Modern.
>>46072888
Probably run Frogmites again then, wont be too bad
>>46072916
I could see it being a 1 of in Esper Control. It draws cards, pops at least 1 creature and can end the game with his plus 1 eventually, I'd rather run elspeth, but it gets past bridge, I could see its applications.
>>46072955
Well worst case scenario you hit a creature or planeswalker with a Drain Life for 6 mana.
>>46073078
Kind of frustrates my ass you can minus him to an opponents face, then he would really be a legit control finisher.
>>46067156
Why don't you just walk into your local game store and buy cards instead of being a sperg and order online if your 5 minutes away? Then having the gumption to post this on /tg/ complaining you don't have your card yet..
>>46066206
Spellskite helps
>>46073101
Well what's a fairly easy way of putting something expensive on top and then activating his +1 for a hefty amount of life loss? I mean in Standard I can use that nonbasic land that puts a creature on top of my deck from my graveyard but that's about it.
>>46073186
Imperial Seal, it's on color too
>>46072446
It's not a meme you are putting to much in to get something that can easily go away and set you back several turns or resources.
>>46073440
They are not doing anymore creatures with hexproof/shroud cuz for noobs inevitability is unfun. so there will not be more good finishers from standard at least.
>>46073440
>something that can easily go away.
Listen man, it wins the game in 2 turns cause of fetches and shocks and it only dies to path. That means if you can get it out with them and no fliers you win next turn, that's worth 5 tokens to me. If you're honestly gay enough to sacrifice 5 good creatures then you don't know how to play, but still, it comes down, then they have 1 turn to Path it, it's that simple.
>>46064789
My gf actually walked in on me and a coupls college buddy playing magic one Friday night and got really interested. She is more of a Dr. Who nerd, but her dad brought her up with like lotr/startrek/general fantasy stuff so she started looking up cards and playing online. Now she is like deadly good. The only downside is I like the deck building aspect a lot more and she more all about winning. It gets heated cause whenever we play now she gravitates towards flavor of the set neck decks and then I just make sideboards full of hate.
>>46072262
>top8
>won
Make up your goddamn mind.
>rogue decks cant be shit lah lah
>>46072463
>>46073673
Condemn and o-ring
>>46073373
oh and thats definitely affordable and in Modern to boot, thanks! :^)
>>46073677
>walked in on me and my buddies playing magic
What does this mean?
>>46074402
They were having gay sex.
To my fellow legacy Pox players. Can someone give me a good analysis of how the loam pox variant differs from the mono black one? I am playing the mono black one atm i just need the 4cmc enchantments, but im not sure if I want to invest in them or go for the loam pox version. I notice the mono black one is way too slow while the loam pox can finish a little quicker. Any input from any of you guys?
>>46074470
My input? Buy an actual Legacy deck
Is there any point playing other company /Chord decks other than the ones with combos? Seems like beats or value is dumb when an instant win combo is built in to other decks
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/high-blue-devotion-deck-1/
what do you think of my meme deck
also its modern not standard
>>46074748
[Tips fedora]
>>46075070
Will lose every game /10
>>46075070
>Blue devotion
>not a single card that makes use of devotion.
>>46075070
>mill
It's not even good mill, as if that was a thing, but God damn it's terrible
>>46075064
Kiki chord is a value/beat down deck that runs 4 angels cause they're good, and 1 kiki because it's nice cording for an instant win. Kiki chord isn't so much a combo deck, as much as if your opponent let's your board state develop enough without a response they lose, which would probably happen anyways but this way they just lose.
How are merfolk in terms of complexity and decision making?
I just sold off affinity because I'm tired of it and would like something that feels more rewarding to pilot and win with
>>46075967
Merfolks kind of Linear, less linear than affinity but still Linear. If you want a real test of your skills play burn
>>46075996
>burn
That's some grade A trolling.
>>46075996
Burn isn't appealing to me. I win most of the time against it with a few points of life gain >>46075996
>>46075967
To be quite honest, every deck has some sort of complicated decision making, even Affinity and Merfolk. Some decks, however, like these two, minimized these decisions, but you will still have to make hard decisions every match when playing these.
>>46076062
Burn is harder than it looks.
Why doesn't this see more play? It's good combat tricks for blue and can remove big threats like goyf and others. They swing in , you block , they think they've killed your guy and survived and then you cast this blowing their creature away.
>>46076221
>burn is harder than it looks
Maybe if you're mentally challenged
>>46075462
To be fair, it does use Chroma.
>>46076277
It's easier than Jund and Twin, but it's mad harder than Abzan midrange.
>>46076270
What deck would want this. Merfolk is the only mono blue deck and this isn't what they want.
Every other deck is only splashing blue and has much better options
>>46076393
Awe show me where skill rhino touched you
Am I crazy for wanting to build Death Cloud Rock for a long time?
>>46073741
Making it to top 8 of a GP is already a feat in itself. The point still stands that results are still results, just because you're too pussy to admit you're wrong doesn't make you right
>>46072769
I doubt it will be played much. Everyone will start packing pyroclasm / anger of the gods again and goblins can't do much about that.
>>46076482
Yes the deck is fucking bad. You just cast death cloud and reset the game. You gain no advantage and just durdle about hoping the other guy concedes out of boredom
>>46073744
Well with O-ring you already took an attack from it.
And it's not like Oring and Condemn are really played.
The only card played in a lot of deck that can answer this is Path.
