To what degree is it acceptable for "sneaky" female PCs (rogues, bards and comparable classes) to use their sexuality as part of their arsenal? Is anything fair game as long as it reaches the intended goal, or does a DM have to draw a line somewhere?
To what degree is it acceptable for "sneaky" male PCs (rogues, bards and comparable classes) to use their sexuality as part of their arsenal? Is anything fair game as long as it reaches the intended goal, or does a DM have to draw a line somewhere?
>>46050556
Sexuality doesn't work that way though. Women are nowhere near as attracted to men as men are attracted to women.
>>46050562
And most men can put 'Their job' about sexuality.
Anyway, the Dashing Rogue who breaks hearts is as much a classic as the seductress.
>>46050543
Depends on setting. No, really.
If we're playing realistic, then don't expect hardened fighters to care you're exposing flesh other than as an easy target or as something to rape after the battle because they've been stuck with only other men, dysentery and mud for weeks.
On the other hand if we're playing fantasy then sure, why not? Throw in a little lust magic and things get pretty funny with the villain sporting a boner mid-dramatic monologue and trying to hide it with his grimoire of unspeakable evil.
And if we're playing ERP then it's just par for the course. I expect you to seduce that tentacle monster and like it. Oh, and let the sneaky male characters wear leather gear and seduce the female foes. It's only fair.
Also copying mating displays for other races is hilarious.
>>46050543
The DM has to draw the line when it starts making everyone else uncomfortable. If you and your players are OK with it, go as far as you want... if people start feeling like they're in the Magical Realm or being forced to watch someone play out a bad hentai fanfiction, put an end to that shit.
>>46050562
If thats your experience, its because your not sexy Im afraid
>>46050543
If you're in an ERP, the line is at not using sexuality enough.
If you're not in an ERP, then the line is where it becomes pretty clear that the player wants it to be an ERP and doesn't have the balls to ask.
>>46050580
>I expect you to seduce that tentacle monster and like it.
>>46050543
As long as it doesn't make people uncomfortable.
Generally, if you're all guys playing at a table, it makes people very uncomfortable indeed. Online, sure, be my guest.
>>46050685
You are the reason online gaming groups are 99.99% crap.
Yeah no, it's just as bad as it is IRL, nobody wants it except other That Guys.
>>46050585
>>46050685
This is pretty much the only answer.
>>46050642
>sequel never
>>46050543
This is only OK up to the point where any player or the DM becomes either turgid or moist. Then it becomes weird.
>>46050719
It's mostly because there's a level of distance online. I know you're probably an ugly fat guy, but I can PRETEND as long as I don't actually have to hear you speak or to see your face.
And even then, yeah, people might not be comfortable.
>>46050642
Source?
>>46050802
Tentacles Training by Batsu
>>46050543
ANYTHING goes.
>>46050543
>Is anything fair game as long as it reaches the intended goal, or does a DM have to draw a line somewhere?
If it made sense in context, a situation where seducing someone to get the desired result was actually plausible, I'd go with it.
If it became their defacto response to dealing with any situation I'd start shutting it down.
>>46050543
Depends on the maturity level of your group. If you have to ask though, I'd avoid it altogether.
>>46050573
>>46050606
This can't just be genderswapped though, for three good reasons.
1. Men are simply more visual than women. It's a well established facts that visual factors do much more to turn on a man than they do to women.
2. Look at this poll/research by OKCupid, a less than obscure dating site.
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
Turns out that women think 80% of men are "below average" in looks. In other words, as a man you need to be in the top 20% to simply not be disgusting. And that's not even hot, just not digusting.
3. Women are and always have been the selective gender. Women always had options, men had to strongarm their way through sexual selection. Simply put, a woman getting an offer for sex from a man that's out of her league is just another friday night. A man getting an offer for sex from a woman that's out of his league has to worry whether it's rape if he fucks a drunk chick.
It simply doesn't work. The femme fatale and the dashing rogue are not eachother's mirror image for the same reason women don't have an equivalent of PUAs.
>>46050859
>women don't have an equivalent of PUAs.
I dunno, I've seen women who ineffectually try to manipulate the other gender with misconceptions about how they work and just shotgunning attempts at people.
>>46050562
US American Feminists agree, hetereosexual sex is rape, political lesbianism FTW.
>>46050543
I played a shapeshifting warlock a while back. I basically just equipped my Tits of +4 CHA and let things turn out how they would. As long as you've got a goal in sight and it doesn't involve whipping your dick out at the table, I see no reason to avoid it, and plenty of immersive reasons to embrace it.
>>46050878
Never with the intent of dating or fucking them though. And say about their method what you want but at least agree with me that this intent is the only thing that causes them to exist in the first place. They exist because there's an audience struggling to reach that goal, and 0.0% of that audience is female.
Before mods arbitrarily ban me for going "off topic", let me neatly tie this up in relation to the topic at hand: when discussing to what agree sexual bartering is acceptable, there's literally no way the male side of the story is relevant to the discussion.
>>46050543
Has this weirdly specific situation literally ever come up in anybody's actual game?
No?
Then why make a thread discussing it? Admit it, you just want to bait people into reeeeeeeing about those awful girls and their sluts / bitches / Staceys / cooties.
>>46050905
>Before mods arbitrarily ban me for going "off topic"
We're on 4chan, not Something Awful. You only get banned for shitposting if the mod (also, they're called janitors) can take his eyes off his hot pockets for forty-five seconds.
>>46050909
>Has this weirdly specific situation literally ever come up in anybody's actual game?
Every time someone rolls up a sneaky female PC in a campaign centered around politics or social intrigue, there is an opportunity for this to arise. Or are you denying the benefits of being the de facto girlfriend of a powerful chancellor?
>>46050905
>Never with the intent of dating or fucking them though.
No, I've seen that too. Especially since being a PUA isn't purely about the sex. It's about the idea of control, the ability to get what you want because you were clever enough to manipulate someone into that.
>>46050925
I've honestly seen it a lot more with male characters than female. I mean that's ended up the stereotype of Bards for a reason.
>>46050543
To the point where it disturbs the party.
>>46050859
You haven't backed up 1 and 3.
2 is wrong. Your own link explained that the same women ranking men as ugly went for those men anyway. There's a lot of possible explanations there, but "80% of men cannot be seducers, it doesn't function" is not one of them.
>>46050859
I think part of that survey is that a significant amount of guys on online dating sites are just fucking creeps. Attractive guys probably don't need dating sites, though I've seen my fair share of attractive guys who somehow never developed social skills. I guess that's the thing, though. Guys seek their girls, Girls wait for guys is how it usually goes.
>>46050859
>1. Men are simply more visual than women.
Is being contradicted by
>2. Men rate much less women as "holy shit, so uggo I would not touch"
>3. For most of human history, the male partner had been around ten years his wife's senior and the marriage contract was between him and the girl's parents. Marriage as a contract between just two people was pretty much invented during late antiquity by Christians who were trying to be edgy and contrarian.
>It simply doesn't work. The femme fatale and the dashing rogue are not eachother's mirror image for the same reason women don't have an equivalent of PUAs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules
There you go.
>>46050960
>Guys seek their girls
You know, that line makes me all the more amused by people going 'No, men can't do seduction'.
>>46050967
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules
Oh wow. That's kinda amazing, I never even knew that existed.
>>46050859
>Turns out that women think 80% of men are "below average" in looks. In other words, as a man you need to be in the top 20% to simply not be disgusting. And that's not even hot, just not digusting
Are you roleplaying an average character? Let me remind you that if you're average, it's statistically highly unlikely that you will kill more than three human enemies before being killed yourself.
>>46050556
>>46050562
what is "james bond"
As long as you fade-to-black.
>>46051003
The majority of women he had sex with were either spying on him or stuck in a room with him.
So from their perspective it's them putting the move on him or them just having sex with him because that's less of a hassle than having to turn him down with a frequency higher than once per five minutes.
>>46050970
The difference, I guess, is that 'male' seduction is typically about making a dashing initiative, while 'female' seduction is catching their eye without being aggressive. 'No guy wants to be chased' is a trope for a reason, and seems to be the ethos behind >>46050967. It's kinda sad that it's the case. Must suck being on either end of the femdom spectrum. Ignoring the betas who just wait for the right girl, must suck constantly being rejected when asking guys out.
>>46050967
>>1. Men are simply more visual than women.
>Is being contradicted by
>>2. Men rate much less women as "holy shit, so uggo I would not touch
Not that I agree with him, but women are more likely to "settle." Men consider looks to be more important, but they also have a lot more variance in their preferences. Women have a narrower view of the ideal male form, but are less concerned with how well their partners measure up to it.
Example: there is a surprisingly large population of men out there that genuinely thinks landwhales are gorgeous. No woman really thinks obese men are hot, but the number of fat families out there clearly shows that other factors outweigh looks pretty easily.
>>46050967
>They represent the point of view that men enjoy being the aggressor
Yeah... nah. If anything this more than underlines that women neither have nor need PUAs.
>>46051003
A fantasy almost universally mocked for how unrealistic it is?
>>46050556
Male characters using sexuality just means having high Str and lots of gold.
>>46051210
>Yeah... nah. If anything this more than underlines that women neither have nor need PUAs.
It's a "how-to" manual on how to pretend to be somebody else in order to get access to sex and cash. If that's not PUA, then I dunno what you'd call what PUAs have been doing all this time.
It even works as great as PUA stuff usually does, what with the writer's inability to maintain relationships on the basis of her own advice being confirmed for a fact...
>>46051217
So now we not only have muscle wizards but also musclemancers?
>>46050543
>When you're a woman
Totally acceptable, happens all the time
>Since you're a tranny
Fuck off with your fetish shit retard
>>46050543
HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED A JAMES BOND MOVIE IN YOUR FUCKING LIFE, YOU PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A POSTER?
I mean, come the fuck on.
>>46051570
Does James Bond REALLY use sexuality? I mean, the Daniel Craig James Bond is rather more forceful and pretty rapey. The other James Bonds didn't so much 'seduce' women as regard them as something to do.
>>46050543
>To what degree is it acceptable for "sneaky" female PCs (rogues, bards and comparable classes) to use their sexuality as part of their arsenal? Is anything fair game as long as it reaches the intended goal, or does a DM have to draw a line somewhere?
ASk.
Your.
GROUP.
>>46051575
Ever seen Sean Connery? He's super rapey, women love it.
>>46051210
>A fantasy almost universally mocked for how unrealistic it is?
and fantasy RPGs are supposed to be realistic?
>>46050642
>>46051056
Except...not really? The archetypal seductress in fiction is very MUCH a 'Go for them' sort.
>>46051649
Seriously. Very sexually aggressive sorceresses and priestesses and such are a very common fantasy trope.
>>46051497
not fair ;_;
>>46051627
That's strangely cute.
>>46051919
such is the nature of life
>>46051575
The majority of women have a rape fetish and one of the easiest ways to get women to fuck you is to pretend you dun care.
>>46050580
>If we're playing realistic, then don't expect hardened fighters to care you're exposing flesh other than as an easy target or as something to rape after the battle because they've been stuck with only other men, dysentery and mud for weeks.
But seduction does work in real life. Not in the middle of battles perhaps, but it does work.
>>46050580
>Throw in a little lust magic and things get pretty funny with the villain sporting a boner mid-dramatic monologue and trying to hide it with his grimoire of unspeakable evil.
What if it's not supposed to be played for laughs? Perhaps making the PCs the villains would keep seduction serious, with guards or morally upstanding NPCs being the ones falling for it instead of BBEGs.
>>46052510
>Perhaps making the PCs the villains would keep seduction serious, with guards or morally upstanding NPCs being the ones falling for it instead of BBEGs.
>>46052510
NTR, man. That's what gets people's hackles up everytime.
Anyone played Bahamut Lagoon? I was fifteen then, and I had no idea what that shit was. I just knew I didn't like it, that fucking whore.
>>46051217
>not bitter at all
>>46053085
What's there to be bitter about? Have you read the Hercules comic by Marvel? Hercules is a doofus, but he's a hilarious doofus who gets all the girls.
Which leads to the greatest comic page of all time.
>>46052910
>hand holding
THIS IS A BLUE BOARD, YOU SICK FUCK!
>>46053161
>>46050953
Your argument strengthens the point. If women are pursuing men that they don't find physically attractive that is just confirmation of the point that women prefer other factors over physical appearance.
>>46052910
>hand holding
No, I quit!
>>46050543
I usually handle seduction and the more sensual aspects of the sneakystabs with a bit of flexibility. Since I will make random things about each NPC that might be interacted with (some guards are racist against elves, and some have a specific fetish that is randomly generated so my players can't just think they hit in my magical realm and get free bonuses), it's not unreasonable for the players to try to get a bit more creative.
Sometimes, though, you need to draw a line. At some point you need to say "that's a bit too descriptive for the table, next time just say you seduce them and roll the appropriate check". I tend to do this when it's obvious other members of the table (or even myself) is distracted by the descriptiveness. Can't exactly run a proper session if players keep having to get up to go tend to...things.
>>46053108
Is that Kaneda?
>>46053624
TETSUOOO
>>46050543
As long as you don't go into long-winded descriptions of your breasts every 2 seconds, don't spend 99.9999999% of the session trying to seduce every NPC into giving you things or doing something for you and have more to your personality than "smokin' hot thief babe", than whatever.
>>46053085
>projecting
>>46053720
>smokin' hot thief babe
Is it bad that I like the sound of that and would play that character?
>>46050543
>>46050556
To wut extent iz it ok fer "Sneaky" gitz to uze der kunnin' as part of dere arsee-nul? Iz anythin' fair game az long az it endz in a good krumpin' fer da 'umies, or does a Warboss gotta smack a grot?
>>46053990
Yes, it means you're probably trans.
>>46054308
Are all the people who play girls in vidya trans too?
>>46054421
Yes. Unless it's a game where you're given no other option.
>>46054448
Then why did they choose to play that game?
>>46054421
Vidya is different because you're looking at a character instead of roleplaying them.
>>46054308
Not really. In no way trans but I do have what you could call pussy envy, maybe. Being a woman must be fucking easy, and being a "smokin' hot thief babe" even easier. It'd be fun to push my luck and see what I can get away with.
>>46054107
Mok iz important too for da orkz! So long as them sneaky gitz remember what WHAAAGin'z all about, let da grots worship 'im.
>>46050562
>Sexuality doesn't work that way though. Women are nowhere near as attracted to men as men are attracted to women.
Yes they are. Have you spoken to women?
>>46050543
Depends on the character.
>>46056865
>He believes women say what they think
Have you observed women? The only ones they actually feel physically attracted to are the superstars like Brad Pitt and his ilk, and even then it's not the same kind of attraction as many men feel for Jessica Alba.
This is also why there is no female Christian Grey and no male... whoever the big pornstar du jour is.
>>46050556
>>46050543
That second picture is leading my mind dark places.
Anyways, it's to whatever level your group is comfortable with. Figuring out what sort of boundaries need to be set are an important part of managing your group! We maybe don't hit this hard enough, but as social games tabletop games have boundaries totally dependent upon the people engaging in them.
That said, be careful! Sometimes that guard is unexpectedly gay, and at least in GURPS, failed Sex Appeal attempts have harsher penalties than failed Diplomacy attempts. (However, successful ones give far better results.)
>>46050543
>>46050556
It's fine until it disrupts the enjoyment of the rest of the group
>>46056927
>This is also why there is no female Christian Grey
Abusive stalkers aren't exactly hard to come by among either gender, Anon.
>>46057532
True, but I have yet to meet a man who considers them desirable while millions of vaginas started soaking when Fifty Shades hit the shelves. Pretty sure more women in America are familiar with it than with their own Constitution.
>>46050562
Even if we accept that as a fact, you're basically making the same argument that leads to "women can't be fighters because they are not as strong as men". Fiction is rife with men who seduce women to get what they want from them. Hell, real life is rife with men who seduce women to get what they want from them. There have been several instances of male prisoners escaping with the help of a female guard they were fucking.
Ergo, any ruling on the matter should be fair both ways.
>>46057732
>There have been several instances of male prisoners escaping with the help of a female guard they were fucking.
Completely unrelated, but I wonder if there was ever a succesful prison escape in recent history that wasn't some mob boss. By which I mean not only succesfully getting out of prison, but actually going entirely off the grid and living out the rest of your days in freedom. I don't think that ever happened outside of mob bosses, makes me wonder why people even try.
>>46057674
>I have yet to meet a man who considers [abusive stalkers] desirable
Isn't that basically what the whole Yandere thing is about
![tumblr_nuobz93WvE1tad8pko1_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LYJCppa.jpg "tumblr_nuobz93WvE1tad8pko1_500[1].jpg")
>>46059555
It helps that they're 2D.It also helps that kuudere is objectively superior
>>46059555
>Isn't that basically what the whole Yandere thing is about
Yandere are basically the straight-male counterpart to Edward Cullen or Christian Grey, yeah.
>>46056927
Physical attraction isn't the be and end all of attraction.
Cars, money, status, etc are the female equivalents of a toned bod and big tits.
>>46051575
In the newest bond movie he takes a chick to her room or whatever just to get to her window and go through it so he can sneak on some dudes
>>46056927
>and no male... whoever the big pornstar du jour is.
I think James Deen was at one point.
>>46060178
Yeah, that was my point.
>>46060347
Male porn stars, if they every get any fame (extremely unlikely unless they're gay-for-pay), are famed for their ability to stay erect or massive loads. Not for their massive female following. Female attraction to men simply doesn't work that way.
>>46054308
Roleplay exists for people to try out things they'd never get to experience in real life, in an imaginary setting. This is true for playing a character of the opposite gender just as much as it is for flying through fantastical vistas and battling servants of the dragon god.
>>46060504
>Male porn stars, if they every get any fame (extremely unlikely unless they're gay-for-pay), are famed for their ability to stay erect or massive loads. Not for their massive female following. Female attraction to men simply doesn't work that way.
You're talking about male porn stars in porn marketed to men, though, anon. Not quite the same thing.
>>46060511
If you would like magical powers and flight and to beat dragons, I can understand why you would roleplay that.
If you want to be a girl...
>>46050835
>rolled really well on my stats, so I had a high charisma
>rogue assassin type whose background was that of a noble (who lost her parents first session because GM)
>really good at killing, so never really use my charisma, let the paladin take care of that instead
>until we get to a point where killing would fuck us over, and we have to take a sneaky approach
>we survey the area we need to infiltrate, and find that the three primary guards are almost robotic in their rutine
>ask if I can attempt to seduce the man clearly starved from any physical contact, and in need of some relief
>GM immediately says no, and that he refuses to let anything sexual happen in his game
Some GM take it too far and go full retard.
>>46060547
Ever wondered why there's little to no porn marketed to women? Hint: It's the same reason why nobody advertises tampons to men.
>>46060775
Porn isn't marketed to men because only women menstruate?
>>46050859
That is so pathetic and autistic to read.
The reason ugly men has a chance, no, the reason ANY man has a chance, is because he knows how to flatter the girl, and make her feel desired. Even a little bit of confidence lets you pull that off. You don't need to be good looking for it to work, as long as you don't smell like wet dog and look like a hobo.
Jesus Christ /tg/, stop proving that you are autistic basement dwelling neckbeards.
>>46060775
>little to no porn marketed to women
I'm afraid you're not looking hard enough, my friend.
>>46060869
...Can you.. Point me towards some?
I need it because reasons
>>46060863
In that autistic rant of yours you ended up proving my point: you can't offhandedly seduce a woman. It takes time and effort. That's why the OPs scenario can't work with the genders reversed. Unless you're Fabio you're not going to distract a female guard for five minutes.
>>46057674
>True, but I have yet to meet a man who considers them desirable
Men laud the quality of sex with crazy women up and down the net day in and day out though.
>>46060178
>Cars, money, status, etc are the female equivalents of a toned bod and big tits.
Yes, that worked great for Elliot Rodger.
Oh wait, it didn't work at all. He even killed multiple people and STILL didn't get laid.
But do keep on believing.
>>46060775
They don't even market tampons for women - they market NOT FEELING SHIT ALSO BLUE FILTERS.
>>46061095
>Elliot Rodger
>Money
>Status
He was a nobody college kid with his dad's BMW and that's it. If he were actually loaded and powerful and completely the same person otherwise, he would've died by pussy overdose.
>>46061095
Murderers get loads of love letters in prison.
Even murder gives a kind of status.
>>46061189
From what I recall, the BMW was his.
>>46059555
>>46059837
Note however that yandere is nowhere near as popular among men as Twilight and 50 Shades are among women.
It's pretty much unheard of outside of weebdom, for one. And even among weebs, yandere is a relatively niche fetish.
>>46061597
>Note however that yandere is nowhere near as popular among men as Twilight and 50 Shades are among women.
Tsundere is shit popular though and tsunderes usually are pretty abusive and stalkerish already.
>>46061638
Tsundere are abusive, but in no way stalkerish. And there's truth in fiction: most non-reciprocal domestic violence is female-on-male.
>>46061695
>but in no way stalkerish
Not sure if you have actually read anything featuring them. They tend to police their NOTlover's nonexistant sex life pretty hard.
>>46061740
They might get upset if they happen to find out he's getting on well with another girl, but they don't go to stalkerish lengths to keep tabs on the guy. I can't think of even one individual example, let alone enough to call it a noteworthy trait of the archetype. And I've watched rather more haremshit and romcom anime than is probably healthy.
>>46050556
>write "male" on your character sheet
>draw a girl for the character portrait
why is this allowed
>>46061867
Because some people are into boys that are basically girls but with wieners under their skirts.
>>46061867
Because it's 2016 and cissexist bigots like you have no place in society anymore.
>>46061695
>most non-reciprocal domestic violence is female-on-male.
I can vouch for that. I have many bitter memories of mymother
>>46053663
TASUKETE
>>46050543
>Ex girl used to always play a high charisma rogue
>Would always seduce the NPC
>While seducing the NPC, she would slip off her shoes and start rubbing my dick under the table while giving me bedroom eyes
>We always fucked like rabbits after every session
I miss her.
>>46062448
>play in a WoD group with the gf
>we'd always inadvertently make characters opposite each other
>our characters usually hated each other after a few sessions in
>the ride home would always be us arguing from our character's POVs
>end up hatefucking each other at the end of the night
It was a really interesting dynamic. I like to think we don't get into real fights because we get into roleplay fights all the time.
>>46062775
>The morally uptight, examplary and virtuous paladin tells the rogue to stop dressing like a whore and act more ladylike
>The sultry, seductive and morally questionable rogue tells the paladin to pull the stick out of his ass and grow a pair
>Their fights escalate
>They eventually hatefuck eachother
>The rogue mocks the paladin, calling him a moral hypocrite
>For the sole purpose of proving her wrong, the paladin constantly proposes to her and insists on taking responsibility
>The rogue constantly rejects his proposals
>She rejects him because she wants to marry him out of love, not for the sake of some silly argument
>>46050562
>tfw receiving extreme female thirst
Hell just being able to sing is enough for quite a few women
>>46063159
>being able to sing is enough for quite a few women
can vouch
put on a good show at a bar with karaoke and you'll probably have at least a couple ladies interested in talking to you
>>46051003
Women are into power, not looks. James Bond is a powerful person, and gets the ladies moist.
Men like looks
Women like power.
>>46061638
Tsundere are popular among socially maladapted nerds because they defy the norm of women waiting for men to approach them.
>>46063370
>because they defy the norm of women waiting for men to approach them
>IM-FUCKING-PLYING
They're popular among socially maladapted nerds because they create the illusion that the women who hate them might secretly feel something for them. A bit like how little girls are told that the boys who bully them have a crush on them and aren't just bullies who enjoy bullying.
Though now that you mention it, funny that the social norm of men approaching women never comes up when we talk about smashing the patriarchy. It's almost as if feminists are highly selective hypocrites.
>>46063098
>The paladin starts bossing the rogue around more and more
>The rogue gets in touch with her submissive side
>>46063429
>Not keeping the rogue a total tease who is always just out of the paladin's reachMuch like her fighting style, actually
>>46061003
This anon's not me, but I'm sure you could find some on these boards, if you looked hard enough.
>>46050543
My players can fluff their use of social skills however they want.
Pillow talk, truth in wine, or subverted loyalty, all just different ways of describing the same dice roll.
>>46064601
>Pillow talk
That's dirty, even dirtier than attacking a man when he's taking a shit. There's something horribly disheartening about having a woman lying next to you, stroking your hair, whispering sweet nothings in your ear for the sole purpose of figuring out the lay-out of the fortress you're guarding from your half-drunk ramblings.
>>46064837
It's a good idea if you want to roleplay women accurately though.
>>46050543
Until it disrupts the game
![arrmour-codpiece[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1LZ8C4c.jpg "arrmour-codpiece[1].jpg")
>>46052132
>Not in the middle of battles perhaps
I beg to differ
>>46063414
>funny that the social norm of men approaching women never comes up when we talk about smashing the patriarchy.
Feminism isn't about getting ME laid? 0/10, would not support.
>>46069640
>Feminism isn't about MEN?
FTFY
Or rather
>Feminisim doesn't care about MEN?
>>46056865
Where do you think you are?
>>46050580
>realistic
A significant amount of characters are going to be in it for gold, glory, and girls, this is easily the most common human motivation.
Villains, adventurers and mercenaries alike are certainly likely to be interested in such things.
Only a few kinds of combatants would be boring enough to not be interested.
>>46061867
Because sometimes I can't find good character art for the type of character I want to play in Male. So I grab a Female picture rather than use a shitty picture.
Where did this thread go wrong
>"I roll to bang the entire Dwarven City"
>nat 20
>DM allows this
>next session same player does it again
>nat 20
>I had my character castrate him
Was I in the wrong?
>>46070105
Friends don't castrate friends out of envy of the mad pussy they're getting.
0/10 friend, bruh.
>>46069929
It's not about women getting laid either, so...
Yay for equality, I guess?
>>46070434
>It's not about women getting laid either, so...
Ohoho?
>Implying HAES (also known as body-positive FEMINISM) isn't about why you should totally bang fat chicks but not in a fetishistic way
>>46070581
...fat chicks that have a life get laid and get married all the time, Feminism ain't got shit to do with that.
Likewise it's perfectly possible to be overweight according to BMI and still be healthy, so I don't really see the problem with something like HAES.
Also
>Linda Bacon
>nutriction expert in Sanfran
You would have to make this shit up if it would not be happening in AMERICA.
>>46070434
Yes it is, that's why it hates porn, hookers and casual sex so much.
>>46072752
That's like saying everyone in the US hates niggers.
>>46072836
I'm not seeing the analogy...
>>46050543
depends on the situation and the group. if the character's player was a cute busty redhead for example, I don't think anyone would mind.
you learn a lot about people through dnd. Things you wish you really didn't have to know about.
>>46075422
What is that picture even supposed to be?
>>46051071
>No woman really thinks an Obese man is hot.
How did you become a hive mind of 3.5 billion people, and where do I sign up?
>>46056787
>must be fucking easy
Grass is always greener, homie
>>46076724
that's money senpai
>>46056927
I'm sorry if that's your experience, but it isn't corrobated by anything at all in my own experience.
>>46056927
Man, I remember when people were really mad about Tube Crush.
>>46050742
>sequel never
Fate truly is a cruel mistress.
>>46060748
>Be a devout follower of the gods, as well as a loving father and husband.
>Some slut, obviously a thief trying to distract me comes up.
>Time to stab a whore with my actual weapon.
>>46050543
>>46050556
The correct answer it that you should stay within the bounds of what your group in comfortable with, but otherwise, all is fair game in an RPG. That is literal the entire point of playing P&P over video games.
It irritates the fuck out of me when dms intentionally favor girls in their dming
In dnd 5e we had 2 females in the group, one was gross but the other was decent looking at least to a bunch of nerds, anyway, at level one she scores a grapefruit sized ruby worth I think the dm said 1000 gold, this is for showing a bit of cleavage mind you. Later on she gets a rope of sages or some shit, this is at level 2 or 3 and the robe is meant for like max level dudes.
Meanwhile i want to actually try to do some shit to make some money and the dm doesn't even throw me a bone, I go looking for work and he says that I can assassinate a local governor and that that is the only possible job around the area. I do a knowledge roll to see if I know the governor is an evil dude and the dm says he is as good as can be so basically he was just trying to throw a brick wall at me. Shitty dm honestly
>>46056865
Nah, they aren't. Plenty are definitely thirsty for dick, but it's leagues below most men's unending hunt for sex.
>>46078058
Kill the governor, become the BBEG, kill the qt when she tries to stop you.
Then leave IRL and canoodle her sister.
>>46078245
Careful with that misogyny little boy. Ironically, it's getting you laid less often.
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>>46078058
>It irritates the fuck out of me when dms intentionally favor girls in their dming
Art imitates reality
>>46051003
James Bond is representative of the entire male sex. It's a fact, people!
>>46050967
>the "dealing with rejection" chapter is almost at the end of the book
This tells me all I need to know. If this were a guide for men, that shit would be right at the front.
>chapter 1: so you want to fuck a girl
>chapter 2: get ready to not fuck lots of girls
>>46078058
>It irritates the fuck out of me when dms intentionally favor girls in their dming
The worst thing is, they don't realise it and it totally changes who they are as people, making them entitled and assuming life is just as easy for men.
>>46076881
>Grass is always greener, homie
Unless you're a girl, in which case the other side is the shit that is being a guy.
>>46075422
>if the character's player was a cute busty redhead for example, I don't think anyone would mind.
So I can only roleplay what it's like to be a cute girl if I am a cute girl? That's so unfair.
>>46078058
>at level one she scores a grapefruit sized ruby worth I think the dm said 1000 gold, this is for showing a bit of cleavage mind you.
Could you be more specific about this? Like, how did showing cleavage get her a ruby? They don't just fall out of the sky, after all. Was it her character or the player herself doing the cleavage-showing? That last bit is probably particularly relevant.
What's a "rope of sages"?
>>46079390
Grass is always greener, homie
>>46077179
>Fate truly is a cruel mistress.
Nah, FATE is actually pretty cool, for a system.
>>46079580
>What's a "rope of sages"?
'Robe'.
>>46059488
Timothy Leary, who was essentially an acid case Uni professor, escaped a high security jail in the 1970's by shimmying down a cable to freedom.
Then he tried to go to Liberia and become a Black Panther, which, considering he was white was never going to work out.
The CIA caught up with him eventually in Afghanistan I think.
Terribly interesting bloke.
>>46078677
Generally the whole idea of the male-perspective books is to be smart about it and never get to that point.
And it's not like rejection is hard to deal with - You just pull up your big girl pants and move on.
>>46079970
>Generally the whole idea of the male-perspective books is to be smart about it and never get to that point.
>implying PUAs don't get rejected
>>46079904
...so what's a robe of sages, then?
Neither "rope" nor "robe" of sages pops up with I just Google them or look in the 5e DMG
>>46079997
No one said they don't, idiot.
Reading the signs that lead there and cutting your losses are what he is talking about.
>>46050562
He's talking about rape you dip.
That depends entirely on the politics of your setting, which in turn depends on how willing your players are to encounter bigotry and discrimination. I think it's interesting to explore the advantages and downsides of playing a character from an oppressed race, gender or class.
>Egalitarian world
Men and women are treated equally and neither face any discrimination on the grounds of their gender. Women are just as likely to pick dangerous jobs as men. Half of the guards you meet are women, so the male and female rogues have equal chances to seduce them.
>Traditional old-timey world
Genders have traditional roles assigned to them, and most women are wives to men of higher standing than themselves. Women are allowed to become adventurers, and for some it is the only escape from the humdrum existence of a housewife or maidservant. Most of the guards you meet are men, so the feminine wiles of attractive female party members are a valuable asset. On the downside, the party might meet a few snobs who refuse to engage in diplomacy with a woman, and the blacksmith might not take her seriously when she asks for a suit of armour. This conflict alone can lead to some interesting quests, but certain players might find it distasteful.
>Femdom world
The same as above, except women are in charge. Men might serve as manual labour, while women run families, companies and empires. An adventuring man might be scoffed at or treated like the party's servant, but a charismatic and independent man is a rare novelty with niche appeal. Here, the male rogue might flatter his way past a pair of female guards, or play dumb when he's caught trespassing.
>>46050543
around here it's a recuring trick to paid a whore to distract a guard .. if a female rogue want to handle the job so be it ..
>>46080504
>distract a guard
A woman can do more than that. Do you know what innocent, meaningless, extremely flattering and irresistable question reveals one of the most fundamental parts of the security system of the place he's guarding?"Want to get a drink?"From his response (and some follow-up questions if needed) you can discover what time he gets off. In other words, what time the guard changes ie. what time the guard is at its most vulnerable
Nobody will suspect a thing.
>this entire goddamn thread
It's like /v/
>>46080584
Nah, nowhere near the amount of shitposting
>>46079638
Then where are all the FTMs?
>>46080558
imao as a gm there is 2 case:
if it's for long term spying a pc can do that but if she is too whorish she will end up with a loose pussy and sorrow but no usefull intel
if it's for a small action a npc or a pc can do , distracting a guard ,visiting a guarded place for drawing a rudimentary map ... it's okay just throw the dice
>>46080558
This is why I make all my guards eunuchs.
>>46080746
Men are more likely to have mental illnesses
>>46061597
Yandere is popular outside of weebs, they just don't use the word, and it's the less murdery version of it.
>>46080865
>>46080558
>"Want to get a drink?"
From his response (and some follow-up questions if needed) you can discover what time he gets off. In other words, what time the guard changes ie. what time the guard is at its most vulnerable
the male version is
do you take extra job ? i need some muscle to excort me while i deliver good around the city
>>46080981
Yup. "Evil, dangerous women who's dangerous to everyone but you, who she loves and adores and is at least mildly obsessed with" is fairly common.
>>46081500
>"Evil, dangerous women who's dangerous to everyone but you, who she loves and adores and is at least mildly obsessed with" is fairly common.
The only pop culture depiction I can think of is Misery, and she was clearly supposed to be the antagonist. Face it, men aren't halfway as retarded as women when it comes to love interests. Whereas women celebrate the insane, the psychopathic, the stalkerish and the criminal, men traditionally preferred softness and upstanding morals in their women. There's a reason why only women are attracted to the Dark Triad. There is no female equivalent of it.
Hell, who hasn't heard the phrase "don't stick your dick in crazy"?
>>46080951
Another reason being a woman is better.
>>46081545
>Hell, who hasn't heard the phrase "don't stick your dick in crazy"?
Have you never thought why there's a need for that warning in the first place?
>>46081668
Because crazy chicks can be hot independent of being crazy? If the craziness itself was attractive, that warning doesn't exist. The "chick code" or whatever women have doesn't stipulate "don't stick your dick in abusive" because women fucking love that shit.
If you want the male equivalent of full retard behavior, it'd be "don't stick your dick in STD ridden gutter whore". But saying that makes you sexist.
>>46072752
but anon, most feminists these days do like porn, hookers and casual sex.
>>46070105
I'd have him roll to see how many bastards he just sired and how much child support those Dwarven Mamas are going to be after.
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>>46082153
>Paying child support
>Not winning custody in divorce court
>Not getting mad alimony from 200+ baby mommas
>Not raising your children to form a small army of rape-raiders
Do you even the joys of being a father?
>>46081711
Fallacy, there. Crazy is attractive, in certain ways, but there is more to relationships than attraction. They say not to stick your dick in crazy, because once things besides wicked passionate sex come into play, things are going to suffer as her neuroses come into play in daily life.
>>46082224
Do you know what lawyers an entire city's worth of Dwarven Women can hire?
>>46082322
>Greater planar binding (infernal lawyer)
What now faggot?
>>46080558
>that webm
What is this from? Google and iqdb don't return anything
>>46083716
Are you sure you're using google right?
it told me "Barbara from Hai to Gensou no Grimgar" on the first page of results.
>>46050543
In theory it's fine, but in practice unless they're god-tier role players it'll be weird.
My sister now goes by peater.
>>46050543
It has more to do with how the player handles it than what he actually tries to do. The game is not an outlet for your sexual frustration, and as soon as I suspect that to be the case you're out.
Luckily, my players aren't sexually frustrated.
>>46050562
That's because you're a sad fat fuck.
>>46082361
This is all assuming they're not just arrested for raping an entire city's worth of Dwarven women twice.
Sides, might not even been rape to begin with. Maybe he's a really charming man. That's a Mountain's worth of fwbs he's got who will take care of his kids for him instead of him having to babysit over two hundred bastard Half-Dwarf babies.
It can't be something that works every time or even most of the time. It's unrealistic and juvenile to have every npc susceptible to being sexually manipulated.
Just like real life there will be npcs who are homosexual, faithful to their partner, not attracted to that race, won't risk a good paying job for a brief sexual encounter, etc.
>>46083716
>>46084092
>Best girl shows up for literally two episodes
I want Japan to stop this
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