Lawful good characters are pure (and maybe jerks)
Neutral good characters are... boring?
Chaotic good characters are fun loving wanderers who help other people
Lawful neutral characters are cold
True neutral characters are stoner druids
Chaotic neutral characters are lolrandumb
Lawful evil characters will betray the party
Neutral evil characters are villainous archetypes
Chaotic evil characters will kill their party members and orphans
Thats basically how all alignments shake out on the table, right?
>>46048782
Lawful Good
>Justice! JUSTICE! JJJJUUUUSSSSTTIIICEEE
Neutral Good
>I chose this alignment because I wanted to be Neutral Evil
Chaotic Good
>I chose this alignment to show how fun and exciting I am, by the way I kill the guard
Lawful Neutral
>Justice, JUSTICE, JJJUUUUSSSTTTTIICCCEE: Justice Edition
True Neutral
>I chose this alignment because you said I couldn't be evil or Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Neutral
>Murderhobo Express. Choo Choo.
Lawful Evil
>I'm SUPER DEVIOUS, btw I'm evil guys
Neutral Evil
>You said no Chaotic Evil
Chaotic Evil
>I kill the orphans, I kill the dogs, I kill everybody because that's what my character would do.
>>46048782
Lawful Good --> Philantropic, and dutiful
Good --> Philanthropic
Chaotic Good --> Philantropic, but reckless
Lawful Neutral--> Selfish, but conscientious
Neutral --> Selfish
Chaotic Neutral --> Selfish, and unconscientious
Lawful Evil --> Mildly sociopathic, also dutiful
Evil --> Sociopathic or mildly psycopathic
Chaotic Evil --> Psychopathic
>>46048859
yeah actually i've seen these too
your neutral evil is actually spot on
>>46048782
I don't usually play evil characters, but when I do, I only play lawful evil. And when I play lawful evil, I've only betrayed the party twice, and both times they were plotting against me already for being a tad too controlling.
>D&D alignments
I chose neutral good for my first pc because druids can only be neutral, true neutral is boring as fuck ("muh Darwinism") and lawful neutral is retarded ("muh nature fucking humans get out") as far as I'm concerned. I understand NG as "balance is important". It's not boring.
Neutral Good is Best Alignment
>>46050044
>not picking Neutral Evil and playing as a cannibalistic rapist
>>46048782
DnD alignments are always looked at from the wrong end. You don't try to fit a character into an alignment, you look at a character and try to fit an alignment to what they do, how they think, and how they act. I know, it's hard. That's the fucking point.
>>46050162
Evil isn't allowed in the campaign also I'm not an edgy teenanymore
>>46048782
There's a much shorter list that's easier to remember that's worked really well for me;
>Alignments are shit, for shit games with shit players.
>>46048782
I prefer a simpler system
Player Character Good:
>Acts and reacts like a rational, sentient creature to most external stimuli.
Player Character Neutral:
>A mobile, aggressive, heavily armed stat block
Player Character Evil:
>I KILL THE NPC. THEN I SKIN HIM AND WEAR HIS SKIN AND SIT IN THE FRONT ROW OF HIS SON'S SCHOOL PLAY WAVING
>>46050210
>depravity evident in nature is somehow edgy or teenaged
Nice try
>>46050210
No you're a counter-edgy 20 something who gets unreasonably angry at anything adult, dark, sexy or evil.
>>46050171
What if all they do is Good?
>>46048782
>having alignments
lmao
>>46050227
>>46950228
Animals killing and raping each other is part of nature but so is nurturing their offspring and forging bonds with each other. Remember, I said balance. Not Heidi prancing in the Alps with her little goat friends and not Vincent Cassel in Brotherhood of the Wolf sending an armoured lion to eat villagers.
I prefer the dicks, pussies and assholes system.
>>46050363
>>>>>/d/ is that way
>>46050329
Sure, but Neutral Evil is a viable alignment for Druids, Anon. Plus it meshes better with the typical player characters.
>>46050353
LG
>communism (the real idea, not that stalin shitpile)
Neutral good
>socialistic capitalism
chaotic good
>true liberalism
lawful neutral
>conservatism
true neutral
>living alone on an island/ maybe also liberalism or anachy, depends on the culture
chaotic neutral
>anarchy
lawfull evil
>ameritard economic"liberalism"
neutral evil
>hitler
chaotic evil
>edgy teen that wants to kill all humans
>>46050411
actually druids would be great as a non idiot chaotic neutral since you could play them as not understanding the whole human culture
Last time one of my players started asking questions about how different alignments should behave, I asked for everyone's character sheets, erased all the alignments, said "forget about it", and proceeded to run the game with no problems.
Turns out alignments aren't actually useful at all. Especially in 5e.
>>46050604
alignments are not for defining charakters, they are for describing them
>>46048782
Lawful good characters believe in an ordered society that benefits all members.
Neutral good characters believe doing good to others is doing good to you too, rules aren't so important but they can be useful.
Chaotic good characters believe doing good in their way is THE way and rules only get in the way.
Lawful neutral characters believe order and organization is more important then the benefit of individuals, potentially including themselves.
True neutral characters are uninterested in discussions of ethics or morality.
Chaotic neutral characters are passionate and unbound by moral qualms.
Lawful evil characters believe the most benefit to them is within an ordered society and that an ordered society's purpose is to benefit them.
Neutral evil characters don't care about things that isn't relevant to their personal pathos.
Chaotic evil characters are hateful, tortured and unbalanced of mind.
>>46050635
And they're still useless.
No, OP. You're wrong about everything.
None of the above and instead going for the only acceptable choice of a role playing a realistic and complex person with an appropriate history and personal goals that may change based on recent events in their livesSo yes Lawful Good
>>46050156
Speaking of Kamala Khan, she has one of the best lines on the subject of good and evil ever:
>"Good isn't something you are. Good is something you do."
>>46048782
1/3
In D&D terms, good and evil come down to altruism verses selfishness, while law and chaos are more about HOW you perform such acts. Bearing that in mind, the next three posts will be how I always considered the alignments.
>LAWFUL GOOD
"I will help others I've never even heard of before because it's the right thing to do. I will work within the laws of the land and accepted social mores as much as possible to do so, but I will not consider myself beholden to fundamentally evil laws."
>NEUTRAL GOOD
"I will help others I've never even heard of before because it's the right thing to do, in whatever way is best at the moment after measured consideration of the current status quo."
>CHAOTIC GOOD
"I will help others I've never even heard of before because it's the right thing to do. I will do so without regard for laws or social mores. This is not to say that I will intentionally break them - simply that they will not enter into my consideration when trying to determine how best to help people."
>>46048782
>ITT: People that think Alignments are rules to follow
>>46052124
why not just make it all in one post?
there are only 9 alignments
>>46052124
2/3
Shit gets complicated here due to the varied meanings of "True Neutral".
>LAWFUL NEUTRAL
"I will help those I personally know without expecting recompense, though it would be nice; anyone else will have to compensate me in some way. I will work within the laws of the land and social mores as much as possible to do so, but I will not consider myself beholden to intentionally unfair laws."
>TRUE NEUTRAL (Apathetic)
"I will help those I personally know without expecting recompense, though it would be nice; anyone else will have to compensate me in some way. I will help those people in whatever way seems best after a measured consideration of the laws of the land and social mores."i.e., the only acceptable True Neutral alignment.
>TRUE NEUTRAL (Dedicated)
"I will strive to maintain a balance between Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos, as I believe that too much of any of these things will result in terrible consequences."i.e., "I'm a psychopath who honestly thinks that if you save the life of a child, you need to balance this by murdering some other child." This is by far the worst alignment
>TRUE NEUTRAL (Unaligned)
"I'm an unthinking animal and act only on natural instinct."This is actually an acceptable True Neutral alignment as well, but it's not one that PCs can take since it only works if you're nonsapient.
>CHAOTIC NEUTRAL
"I will help those I personally know without expecting recompense, though it would be nice; anyone else will have to compensate me in some way. I will do so without regard for laws or social mores. This is not to say that I will intentionally break them - simply that they will not enter into my consideration when trying to determine how best to help people."
>>46052208
>TRUE NEUTRAL (Dedicated)
this is chaotic evil
>>46052161
Doesn't all fit, even if I cut out all 3 variants of True Neutral.
>>46052124
>LAWFUL EVIL
"I will act only in my own self-interest and will need compensation before even considering others. I will work within the laws of the land and accepted social mores as much as possible to do so, but I will work to twist such laws or mores in my favor at all times."
>NEUTRAL EVIL.
"I will act only in my own self-interest and will need compensation before even considering helping others. I will act in whatever way seems most convenient at the time after a careful consideration of the status quo, which I will respect only insofar as it benefits me."
>CHAOTIC EVIL
"I will act only in my own self-interest and will need compensation before even considering helping others. Laws and social mores mean nothing to me and shall not enter into my consideration at any point. I probably mock the idea that they even should."
>Lawful Good
"I want to impress my daddy."
>Neutral Good
"I'm practical."
>Chaotic Good
"I'm impractical."
>Lawful Neutral
"I have autism."
>True Neutral
"I contribute nothing meaningful."
>Chaotic Neutral
"I am a drain and a burden on those around me."
>Lawful Evil
"I'm grimdark."
>Neutral Evil
"I'm an edgelord."
>Chaotic Evil
"I'm still in high school."
>Unaligned
"I'm a sheep. Literally."
>>46050222
Trips confirms it.
Our group is so fucking fragmented over how you define alignment we just ignore it. On our character sheets you've got an alignment written down, but that just is more of an indication to the GM. 'Lawful Good' means that you're gonna generally do the Right Thing™. 'Chaotic Neutral' means that you're just gonna do whatever you want. 'Lawful Evil' means that you're gonna continue playing with the party but you'll have a strop if you don't get some dark betrayal by the end where the party ends up enslaved, subjugated, or dead.
>>46052186
I personally see True Neutral as your Apathetic version for (N)PCs, but slightly more loosely. You'll help people because that raises your reputation and is a culturally normal/expected thing, but you're not going to run into the Volcano of Doom trying to save some stranger's wife (without personal reasons). You'll follow the law, because not doing so will get you some punishment, but if push comes to shove you'll break the law without feeling too bad. You're empathetic, but also value yourself equally as anyone else, so, at the end of the day, you'd (with no other information) grudgingly sacrifice someone else to save your own life.
Basically, you're a completely normal fucking person.
Of course, there's always variation, but that's the whole thing boiled down. What I hate the most is when people say that some alignment must ALWAYS behave a certain way. No, that's called being a robot. With different circumstances you can act differently. A Lawful Good person could kill an innocent person, doing an Evil and Chaotic act, if they wholly believe that it will cause a net increase in Law and Good.I find the MUST MAINTAIN BALANCE trope stupid for anyone who adventures around. One thing to maintain balance inside your little tree-hovel, another to impose your mad doctrine across the entire world.
HOW TO PLAY CHAOTIC EVIL RIGHT
Do what you want to do, when you want to do it, whenever it benefits you to do so. That last bit is most important: it has to BENEFIT you.
Bear in mind that you are, most likely, mortal, and there do exist other people who will work against you if they catch you doing something that offends their quaint sensibilities. Therefore you can't just kick in the door to the mayor's house and start raping his daughter: the mayor probably has guards who'll fight you, and even if you beat them there's angry townsfolk to deal with after. And that's assuming that his daughter isn't capable of defending herself - this is D&D after all, and it's been a long time since -4 STR was an actual thing. The few moments of satisfaction you might get from tearing off her bodice don't mean much after she grabs that knife she keeps under her pillow and starts rolling well and eviscerating you.
Basically, remember that "Chaotic Evil" doesn't mean "stupid." You chafe at your physical limitations but that doesn't mean you're not aware of them. You consider everyone around you to be mewling idiots with their laws and social mores, but that doesn't mean that there aren't a whole lot more of them than you who can and will kill you if you start acting out your every base desire at the very moment.
Join an army - or build one yourself - and go raping and pillaging, if that's your thing. It's not socially acceptable in most settings, but at least that means that you'll have dudes to back you up.
>>46050371
You clearly haven't heard of the dicks, pussies and assholes system.
Some people are pussies. They just sit there and take in what's coming at them.
Some people are assholes and shit over everything and everyone.
Finally, some people are dicks. Now, dicks fuck pussies. Some pussies may not like them, but they still do. Dicks also fuck assholes, and stop them from shitting over everyone.
>>46050162
Isn't neutral evil just a rationally selfish asshole, like a career criminal?
That way you can save Chaotic Neutral for characters who are actually chaotic and unpredictable.
>>46052124
>good and evil come down to altruism verses selfishness
Good is generally benevolent unless given a very strong reason not to be.
Neutral (on the Good/Evil Axis) is selfishness unless given a reason not to be.
Evil is generally malevolent unless given a strong reason not to be.
Lawful generally acts respectably unless given a reason not to be.
Chaotic generally acts unrespectably unless given a reason not to be.
Neutral (on the Law/Chaos Axis) is lacking a strong inclination towards Lawful or Chaotic.
The Law/Chaos Axis is generally less extreme than the Good/Evil Axis,
and if (and /only/ if) needed, can be broken in favor of performing Good or Evil.
>>46053877
>Neutral (on the Good/Evil Axis) is selfishness unless given a reason not to be.
This doesn't work because the vast majority of people are Neutral, but the vast majority of people would willingly sacrifice themselves for friends, family, and neighbors - but not for starving kids in Africa or the like. That's not "selfish", that's just people.
>respectably
This is way too vague to be meaningful.
>>46048782
>Lawful Good
The world would be better if everyone played by the rules.
>Neutral Good
The world can be better and I'm gonna help.
>Chaotic Good
The world should be better and I'm gonna make it better
>Lawful Neutral
The world sucks and the rules help.
>True Neutral
The world sucks but it also doesn't suck
>Chaotic Neutral
The world sucks and I plan on living through it.
>Lawful Evil
The world sucks but I'm gonna make it suck more for some people so it sucks less for others.
>Neutral Evil
The world sucks but I'm gonna come out on top
Chaotic Evil
>The world sucks. People suck. I suck. We all suck and I'm gonna remind you of that constantly.
>>46048782
Lawful Good
>JUSTICE. CHARITY. GOOD DEEDS. REFUSE REWARDS. SELL YOUR PARTY INTO SLAVERY.
Neutral Good
>I wanted to be good but not Lawful Stupid.
Chaotic Good
>I am le robin hood xD i steal the money but buy a puppy
>Lawful Neutral
I wanted to be Lawful Evil but you said no. I just have a very unorthodox moral code.
>True Neutral
I'm a druid.
Chaotic Neutral
>LOL randumb i cast magic missile at him becauz randum!121
Lawful Evil
>No really guys, I promise I can play a legitimate Oathbreaker who isn't going to murder the party.
Neutral Evil
>You said no Chaotic Evil.
Chaotic Evil
>*unzips katana, teleports behind u* nothin' personnel kid *tips top hat*
>>46050655
>Chaotic evil characters are hateful, tortured and unbalanced of mind.
Or they could be pirates. Freedom on the sea, but also rape.
>>46052244
I'm basically with you on this. At least that's a pretty apt description of my never-ending series of Neutral Evil characters.
>>46052298
>I find the MUST MAINTAIN BALANCE trope stupid for anyone who adventures around. One thing to maintain balance inside your little tree-hovel, another to impose your mad doctrine across the entire world.
Makes for hilarious villains, though.
I think Hero Killer Stain is a pretty decent example of Chaotic Evil, despite the fact that he has a code of sorts. All he wants is to kill liars, hypocrites and the deluded - and also the honest, brave and true, if they're not strong enough to prevent themselves from dying.
I also love this mangaka's facial expressions.
>>46048782
What about a question asked to each?
>Why are you an adventurer?
>CG
To help the helpless solve their dangerous problems!
>NG
I'm able bodied, and there's bad stuff out there. What more reason do I need?
>CG
There're douchebags everywhere who need to be given a taste of their own, and I couldn't be happier to do it.
>LN
We have this perfect system in place and people are trying to tear it down for no reason other than personal gain. I plan on stopping them.
>TN
There're things in the dungeon that I'm interested in. Ancient relics, traps, challenges and the such. Oh, and helping people feels good, I guess.
>CN
'Cause it's always nice to let out a little steam, and being praised is the best! Plus, there's always a party at the end!
>LE
I can both get money AND get close to people with power. That's well worth a few days in a cave.
>NE
Some people are willing to pay A LOT for this shit, and I can usually take some of the best loot from these sacred places before they even realize it's gone.
>CE
It's hilarious how people will pay you to fix a problem, especially considering they don't know you caused it.
>>46061548
First is LG, bleh. Mah bad.
>>46051949
She's too pure
>>46052988
But you're a druid, Anon. You must embrace the Evil inherent in Nature, and exemplify that Evil.
Think of every sordid thing you've ever heard of an animal or plant doing. You do that.
>>46056911
>>Neutral Evil
>The world sucks but I'm gonna come out on top
>>46062863
>>46062808
Why is she drawing on a shirt with mustard?
>>46063175
Mustard is the only halal substance permitted for such purposes.
