Welcome to the Accidental Magical Girl thread!
Various worlds and multiverses have become connected together via the mysterious Overcity, a sprawling landscape inhabited by monsters and magical beings. Girls and boys endowed with their new supernatural powers can work together solving conflicts that arise!
>This is NOT a greentext adventure style CYOA with one GM and thread posting to dictate the adventure, but rather a hub thread for multiple storycrafters to use.
A majority of activity (including campaigns) instead happens in the IRC, which is open for newbies to join.
Characters can be rolled with either the CYOA's purple PDF which is intended as a writing prompt and is in the process of developing an independent auxiliary combat system, or AMGC's blue pdf which contains combat rules for PNP campaigns along with the rolls.
Post builds, roleplay, write stuff.
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Add your character here!
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IRC Linkboard:
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Early 2015 Old Thread OP Text: http://pastebin.com/usMM2EC7
Previous Thread:
>>45875086
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/45875086
The CYOA's Patron Module, which determines just who bestows your character's magical abilities. But be wary, for not all patrons are purely benevolent...
This PDF is for AMGC 1.1, used for PNP in the IRC. Features 10 additional powers and 20 extra perks, as well as combat actions, pointbuy, and more.
>Note: With pointbuy you are now legally allowed the sixth perk.
Changelog from 1.0:
https://titanpad.com/cJhuJGoP4e
>Suggestions for 1.2 Here (please place your salt here):
https://titanpad.com/F4O4bSRc56
AMGC Patron Module Compatibility Patch and Perks Update (WIP):
https://titanpad.com/0F19Ow5RAG
Corruption Module compatible with AMGC 1.1
>Allows you to build a monster girl, or choose pre-created monster archetypes
>Features buffs to literally everything, reduced weaknesses, new perks, and introducing the MonG archetype packs, based on MonGs from CYOA 1.2 and prior.
>Please note that the choose 5/roll for 6 perks is correct, as this PDF was recently updated.
Fusion rules PDF, compatible with AMGC.
In times of peril you can fuse with your best friend! Your lover! Your Familiar! Or the other half of your soul?! Here's the rules for how to do it!
>If you want updates/changes, mention them to Sahara or put them in the 1.2 Suggestion Titanpad.
Puchuu Expansion Pack, for the lovable mascot critters that accompany most mahou shoujo!
Create your walking, talking, toy advert today.
>Has compatibility with the CYOA (loosely) or with AMGC.
How many pats could a Pat pat if a pat could pat pats?
!!! NEW !!!
>Character generator for AMGC, made by Doxy using RandomGen by Orteil.
http://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=xvJyAbps
>>46020440
>Implying I don't own the copyright on Pats
>>46020755
Would you say you have the... PATent?
Reminder
Is your girl an expy of any other character?
>>46023826
Amelia's pretty much a Sayaka without the violin-kid issues.She traded it in for more feelings of personal worthlessness, self-righteous stubbornness, and bad decision making.
>>46020269
I am confused as to how perks work here. Does this mean I can get 5 or 6 perks alongside the perks I would have had if I wasn't a Monster?-because I'm totally down with being sort of spooky and anomalized if I get some more fancy gimmicks.
>>46025645
You get 6 perks as well, yeah.
Monsters are kind of bullshit but enjoy being basically dogpiled by megucas for justice, especially if their powers target your weakness.
>>46026574
Bullshit? In what way? Their stat total is higher than a magical girl's by like, 2, and that's assuming everything gives a point.
So how well does the system work? I'm debating on signing onto this madness once again.
>>46025645
Instead of the spec stats you get monster perks, so like if you rolled gravity kiss that +4 magic goodbye. and 5-6 random stat perks instead
>>46026574
Monster girls are still weak
>>46026988
theres an exalted based pdf which is second post in the thread. The irc is more helpful if you wanna pop in
>>46026681
The higher stats and the benefits from the perks themselves make monstergirls individually very powerful. If they get buffed any further they'd be in broken territory, but as is they're suitably good while still not being gods again.
>>46027188
Stats and other abilities.
>>46022425
Blasphemy.
Reminder to give support to your local communist
They are just trying to make the world a better place.
>>46020440
Nine. A Pat could tat at most nine other Pats
>>46028555
But that's forbidden love!
>>46030077
I think you mean the best kind of love.
>>46030629
Yeah it is!
can i dump all my perks into strength, get the hammerspace power and store sedans in there?
>>46031016
Nothing bigger than a crotch rocket, sorry
>>46030629
The worst kind! The worst!
>>46031527
I'm with Anon here. I'm too much for giving a shit about proper states of nature to let your Forbidden Love ruin the magnificent design and purpose of the Male and Female pairing system.I have a several hundred year lineage I respect still.Mostly.
Bottom line: Please stop, Megucas, your forefathers beg of you. They didn't get your family this far for you to be a rug muncher. Go marry a nice Man of Justice when you are old enough. Start a REAL Justice family.
>>46031016
>store sedans
I wanna store Seda-
>>46031069
O-Oh, okay...
>>46032184
>old enough
>most of them are physically unaging and between the age of 8-17.
> would watch as everyone grows older while you stay a child.
Sounds pretty bad to have normal love.
>>46033216
Just because you're cursed (or blessed) to be forever a child or teenager doesn't mean you should let it dominate what you should do.
It will take a lot of explaining, and maybe your lover may be arrested if you don't clear things up, but you have to fight back against the forces who have tried to screw you over. (Or maybe they didn't try to screw you over. Who knows at this point.)
Also we DO have Magical Boys in somewhat large numbers. Try dating them and see how that works out.I'm not just going to sit here while a bunch of Space Fae get their jollies off watching rug munchers go at it.
>>46033705
Guy gets turned into a magical girl.
Still likes girls.
>>46034607
Biologically his/her new body would tell him he likes boys now. So confusion and then internal conflict until hormones win.
>>46034827
Physically unchanging.
>>46035480
Going from Guy -> Girl is a pretty big physical change
>>46034827
>Sexuality
>Biologically
You must be new. To anthropology.
Mmmm OK so if we get as realistic as possible and narrow down our focus to how biology acts after being filtered and nourished by PURELY AMERICAN/BRITISH and similar cultures (i don't feel right generalizing so many countries as British clones, but to be general) reacts, like super realistic, very realistic, more realistic than any anime every would be both in theory and practice, sexuality could be CURVED towards either direction based on the presence of particular hormones in the blood, notably estrogen and testosterone. That most people who's transitioned sexes (people who've undergone the childhood neurochemical development of one sex and adult+ development of another) are BISEXUAL is probably a useful statistic to apply in this case. So realistically every trans shojo would be different, but generally most of them would be bi and the ones that weren't could be any other sexuality.
But this isn't biology, this is anime~
So: how many magically age/sex altering protagonists have notable changes in their sexuality? (referring both to potency and preference) I don't know. Anybody got an answer?
It should also be noted that most mahou in this cannon are immortal ie. physically unchanging and blood chemistry, if they even have blood chemistry, may not even be able to affect their development since, you know, they no longer develop.
... I don't headcannon humans who've sold their innocence to the devil in exchange for unchangingness and a life-taking body as actually fertile. Like do they have periods? No ovaries = no hormones to begin with.
Wow so there are just like so many factors here it would be stupid to tell anyone to pick any one of these logics and that they had to follow that. TL;DR: MAKE MAHOU WITH WHATEVER SEXUALITIES YOU WANT
>>46037330
>TL;DR: MAKE MAHOU WITH WHATEVER SEXUALITIES YOU WANT
It really is play it how you want
you perverts
>>46034607
Guy rolls Masculinity. Still likes girls.
>>46037778
Straight girl rolls Masculinity. Still likes guys.except now mirrored ceilings are more fun
>Make silly post to tease Mol about yuri love with a image of a gay man saying it's not possible.
>The rest of thread
Kek.
>>46037330
>how many magically age/sex altering protagonists have notable changes in their sexuality?
Alot of gender-bender series. Mostly yuri, some yaoi, a few het.
>No ovaries = no hormones to begin with.
Wait, hol up, how do ovaries suddenly disappear? I can understand they can stop working (maybe?) but dissappearing all together is a bit much unless your chuu is seriously hellbent on you not reproducing ever.
Brb making a lineage of magical girls.
>>46038846
>tease Mol
I didn't even realise that was for me
>>46039790
It's always for you.
>>46040707
Say, anons, PMMM had an interesting way to show character development. If you read the spinoffs, you probably know that Kyouko was a softie wannabe hero type, and in the timeframe of a year, she changed a lot taken the circumstances she suffered through.
Given that same timeframe, what things do you think your mahou would go through? Would they change for better, or for worse?
>>46040707
Oh boy, I remember that doujin. It wascute
Would you a monstergirl with the arms and lower body of aT-Rex?
>>46041699
That's not how you spell "yes".
>>46040707
>>46040944
sauce?
>>46041798
I would do any girl, especially not a MonG
>>46042401
wouldn't*
>>46042297
"A Little More Confidence" or "A Little More Assertive"
>>46042401
What about...
>>46043022
HmmProbably
>>46040909
Amelia's a diet Sayaka.
Whether she bends before she breaks, comes to terms with her own actual motivations, or just burns herself up through senseless conflict is up in the air...
But on the whole, things are likely to get worse for her, small/early positive changes aside.
How many have you saved?
>>46040909
My mahou Primrose embraced their new super abilities and new role of their patron's bukako fully and sortof abandoned any comfort they could have earned for themselves away to, like, prove to themselves how diehard dedicated they were. They could see the future and read people's hearts so they were never caught off guard, their super dexterity and double specializations ensured they were their own DPS, rogue, debuffer, and buffer, and if things ever did go south they could fly away. Their absolute direction and mental link to their knowledge-themed patron meant they were never without direction or reassurance, and they always knew they were doing the right thing. Their one fault, their thirst for flesh, was even countered by their cleansing object and all their monstrous abilities could be hidden without a proper disguise. They were bad-ass and cold and calculated and fulfilling all of their values more than completely, and more than that they were the instrument of their patron's will, part of them and thus part of something eternal. They didn't need or want anything more in their life than that. ((among my friends her build was top fucking notch though I'm sure it's mediocre by online standards))
Then they were purified and completely abandoned.
>>46045251
Cue completely lost phase, no idea what to do and in stupefied denial a little bit. The monstrous strength, bird eyes, claws, and wings they relied on to find otherwise inaccessible safe-havens left her and left her unrecognizable to her self. ((also many of her perks were story-wise the influence of her patron, and to get her to fit with the rules and story I had to re-spec her post-purified self point-buy style--she now has--2 for the beast + 4 for bronze coins + 2 for a silver I had to spend--about eight less stat points in total and a four fewer monstrous tricks)) This was followed by hugely timid phase, without direction, protection, and with a huge reduction in power and no experience with her new magic tree. She didn't have any magical girl backup or even any acquaintances on good terms to fall back on. I think she's on her way to a post-breakdown soul-searching phase now and hopefully the dere part of dandere, but who knows maybe she'll die. Like it's not unlikely. She's an underpowered utility class with no main party and she probably pissed off the Puchuu a bit.
Yep. A lot can happen in a year. Her arc is kinda the opposite of Kyouko's I guess.
Why do I keep doing this to myself?Probably because it can be amusing sometimes.
Rolled 9, 9, 16, 19, 20, 13, 6, 9, 17, 12, 19, 13 = 162 (12d20)
>>46045365
And then I forgot the part I was talking about.
STR 5
AGI 13
VIT 4
MAG 9
LCK 12
a scattering of 1-4 dice bonuses to each of grapple resistance, dodging, evasion, retreating, and hiding.
Howfuckedam I?
MAG and LCK can range from 5-11 and 10-16 respectively from my coined points, each at the cost of the other. I think balancing the two could be best or is min/maxing really the way to go?
>>46046193
8 wounds 3 soak.
I hope you support or stay at a distance.
Rolled 6, 11, 19, 13, 13, 19, 18, 1, 10, 15, 17, 20 = 162 (12d20)
>>46046886
Always rolling average body and mystic weapon.
>>46046676
to be fair 12 Luck lets her bullshit her way out of a LOT of attacks and Agi no-sells strength...
Rolled 4, 17, 8, 11, 19, 16, 6, 9, 6, 12, 1, 9 = 118 (12d20)
This is a public service announcement.
You shouldn't marry people against their will for it may cause complications with third parties.
This has been a public service announcement from your local communist.
Please have a nice day.
>>46054763
Communists don't marry. They sign forms and then just go about their meaningless boring lives like normal.
Communist mahou are dangerous spreaders of propaganda and false truths, execute on sight.
>>46056517
I can get behind this. Execute Commie-Mahous and their heartbreaking ways!
Ladies, please, you're all beautiful.
So tell me, what have your characters been up to in the past week?
>>46057017
I'm not beautiful
just smol
>>46020184
I wish I was a Nagato.
>>46057017
Maintaining the facade of daily life, waiting for the time to slip back to the Overcity and take care of unfinished business.
So tell me, does your mahou still have biological cycles?Y'know, periods and the like?
>>46047289
Rolls are weird, man. For the longest time in the pre-Quasar CYOA I kept rolling low ages, overdeveloped, and skimpy costume without fail.
>>46026574
Depends a lot on the competence of the monster I would say and what their desire is.
Get two or three monsters working together and some cash and you have a hellishly hard battle for most magical girl groups.
A feral berserker though would pretty rapidly get fucked if they sucked at hiding well in the meguca part of town. I kind of imagine the average competence level would be in the mid range. With extremely dangerous ones at the top, Much less so on the bottom and a large chunk of very deadly but not instantly run away as the large mid range.
>>46061314
Yes, but I would never rp it nor is it relevant unless you're doing a coming of age story where it holds some symbolism...or it's magical...or you're like buffy and use menstrual cramps to detect vampires.
>>46057017
pure 100% scared recuperation and panicked damage control
>>46061314
my mahou isn't unambiguously gendered, and also their body is an inhuman construct made by the Puchuu from magic pressed into the cracks of reality like dirt pressed into a wound that does not yield to the laws of time, has the power to lift the laws of physics, and know's nothing of earthly biology beyond how to mimic it's shape so I guess not.
>>46062024
>use menstrual cramps to
could you explain this? i'd greatly like to hear this story
>>46062181
Whenever a vampire was nearby, she'd get menstral cramps. That's pretty much it. But if you are interested in the whole "magical periods" deal, just google it. You find some...interesting things.
http://www.menstruation.com.au/contributors/moonflow.html
>A woman's bleeding was considered a cosmic event, relating and connecting one to the moon, the lunar cycles and the tides. She was thought to be at the height of her power at this time, and for this reason was encouraged to spend time listening to her inner voice which would often offer suggestions and wisdom which would benefit the whole tribe
>The word 'ritual' comes from 'rtu' which is Sanskrit for menses. The blood from the womb which nourished the unborn child was believed to have 'mana' or 'breath of life'.
>The rituals of many traditions from Taoists to the Ancient Egyptians involved the ingestion of menstrual blood mixed with red wine to increase spiritual power. In Ancient Greece spring festivals included the spreading on the earth of corn mixed with menstrual blood to increase fertility.Ha. Gross.
>>46062548
>was encouraged to spend time listening to her inner voice which would often offer suggestions and wisdom which would benefit the whole tribe
>in the time woman is at her most irrational
superstition, not even once
>>46062024
Source? For reasons.
>>46062937
Narutaru, a happy comic about a fun girl having happy adventures with her cute star creature.
>>46063099
>Narutaru
>comic
>girl
>star creature
Literally every word you posted except for these five is a LIE.
>>46062587
>in the time woman is at her most irrational
periods do not make people irrational per-se
they make them feel weird and they have more or less of various emotions in ways they're not too used to dealing with
but an excess of emotion isn't an absence of reason
they're still just as capable of checking themselves as they are any other week, though our culture constructed and perpetuated the belief that periods do make people irresponsible, thus allowing people to use it as an excuse, thus allowing others to think they've observed and verified this tendency, thus causing people to say and treat people as if that's the case
>>46063142
No idea what you're talking about. Have a cute girl from the series.
>>46062587
Period hormonal changes include an influx of testosterone
Also the mindset was different then. Usually going through pain in those cultures gave a perceived sense of wisdom or security, it wasnt omg my pussy hurts so bad! Buy me chocolate lolol. But instead a sacred and symbolic gesture of womanhood
[Spoiler] This is why bl is pure. [/spoiler]
>>46063404
I think the greatest thing in the world is when a women hits get with one right when they start taking like two or three different hormone pills.
It rapidly turns into a god damn clusterfuck. Of crazy.
>>46061314
Nope, stuck in prepubescence eternally.
>>46063954
>like two or three different hormone pills
normal periods are usually fine though
>>46061314
This is actually something I've put thought into.
No. Menstrual cycles get in the way of magical girling.
>>46061314
so like
i can't be the only one who thinks a magical girl loosing her period when she signs a contract to loose her aging and humanity is cool
like the ovaries and coming of age thing being a metaphore for the life she gave up when she became less and more than human
>>46066444
>>46066741
You can do what you want with your girls, periods, no periods, bleed from your dick, whatever. It's your own story after all you silly, silly people.
But...
>Menstrual cycles get in the way of magical girling.
Pls. Unless it's a magical period, plot device or something, it pretty much would have no effect on magical girling other than a minor annoyance that doesn't even have to be mentioned at all.or you run into a very desperate vampire.
>>46057017
Started a fight over lich servants in the pub, got headpatted by the girl she's crushing on, met someone she doesn't know is a monstergirl.
Rolled 4, 16, 16, 18, 20, 1, 17, 9, 16, 1, 5, 19 = 142 (12d20)
>>46041041
By the looks of that tail, that's an ankylosaur.
>>46067189
Eh, I wasn't thinking about the period itself.
Getting pregnant, though, is just a big fuss.
Rolled 8, 6, 19, 1, 3, 20, 18, 13, 18, 15, 3, 13 = 137 (12d20)
>>46063889
Lyn no
Rolled 12, 9, 19, 4, 8, 13, 2, 20, 14, 10, 3 = 114 (11d20)
Rolled 17, 20, 6, 2, 20, 8, 19, 12, 18, 3, 1, 20 = 146 (12d20)
Rolled 5, 2, 12, 6, 17, 18, 20, 14, 3, 2, 18, 13 = 130 (12d20)
>This thread is still up
>>46074051
It's only been 2 days and 15 hours.
>>46071606
Lyn yes.
>>46074858
>Being this gay
How do they get funding to make this shit?
>>46075585
>how do they get funded to bring the gay
>japan
how would they have trouble getting funded
japanese straight girls with money who like anime are the founding fathers of professional guy-on-guy erotica
>>46078205
and then there's shit like this for guys that think they're straight
>>46078277
>they said the ass was fat
Goddamnit.
>>46061314
Nah, she wound up young and underdeveloped, so she effectively traded away that annoyance for others like not being able to reach the high shelves and rarely being taken seriously by strangers. Being small also makes her harder to pick out in a crowd and better at hiding, so it's a mixed bag.
>>46078350
well my ma' always said life was like being abducted my a mascot character and turned into a little girl with a thirst for vigilantism.
So, I was asked to run a magical girl game using that WoD fan game. There's a slight problem however, I have never watched/read/etc. anything in the genre - unless Harry Potter counts. Before I decide if I'll run the game or not do you have any recommendations of series to take a look through?
>>46079565
Princess Tutu
Cardcaptor Sakura
>>46079565
Old School(A more balanced diet): Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura
New School (Plays up the suffering and darkness already in the genre): Madoka Magica, Yuki Yuna is a Hero
Actually A Super Robot Show With Teenage Or Younger Girls Instead of Robots: Symphogear, Lyrical Nanoha
>>46079565
Most seasons of Precure are alright. Some are actually pretty good.
Rolled 2, 5, 6, 3, 7, 5, 7, 9, 11, 3, 8, 1 = 67 (12d20)
>>46079565
All you need to know is
> Young girls given magical powers that allows them to transform and fight bad guys under a secret identity to save something because DESTINY.
Or just do Harry Potter but swap the robes for magical outfits. Wands can stay wands or can be switched out for various weapons. If all your players are on the the same team, they tend to have a common theme together. Like they can all be based on planets, constellations, deities, flowers, forms of love, gemstones, etc. I also recommend
>>46079787 or just read a manga or two.
>>46079565
Don't do Harry Potter
or do but it won't be a vanilla magical girl campaign
Harry Potter has intrigue (kinda) and clues and puzzles and rebellion against authority and whatnot
Magical Girl plots are too simplistic for those kinds of clues, their "mysteries" are revealed through weird soap-opera like twists and a lot of shit is symbolic, but like the symbolism takes center stage and realism matters but matters less. They make up for plot complexity with emotional complexity, with pure energy, self-expression, and bliss. But most importantly THEY DON'T DO THIS WELL OR TOO SERIOUSLY THIS IS A RELAXED SHOW FOR CHILDREN AND STICKING TO THE "MAIN THEMES" IS ALL THAT MATTERS NONE OF THE LITTLE SHIT ACTUALLY HAS TO ADD UP AT THE END.
Imagine Harry Potter with none of the "riddles", with none of the studying (magical girls powers come from listening to your heart or something, not listening to a book), none of the teachers, none of the Arthurian influences, none of the "safe places" like #4 Private Drive or Hogwarts (places harry had to be or volde would kill 'em), none of the Hogwarts basically. That part where Harry castes a Patronus and it's his dad's, and that part were SNAP TURNS OUT TO BE GUD GUY ALL ALONG, and the part with Lilly's magic fish bowl dying in Slughorn's home--THAS MAGICAL GURL TERRITORY.
But also that part in the bathrooms when Harry rips Draco's chest open, that's also Magical Gurl territry. (just without the accidentally part)
>>46084256
So, what kind of symbolism is standard? I tried watching the Madoka thing but the voices got on my nerves so I didn't make it through the second episode. Currently trying to read the card captor which is somewhat less aggravating but I'm barely into it.
>>46084593
>He quit before episode 3
It feels like it's 2011 again. But, anyway. Maybe the genre just isn't for you. Got an important question, though. Did you watch the dub? If so, that was a mistake.
In any case, common standard symbolism is really, really plain stuff - loss of innocence, developing sexuality - classic coming of age stuff. Madoka in particular is super Faustian as you might have guessed. Revolutionary Girl Utena, if you want to count it, goes hard on the rose imagery and some fairytale stuff - I think Princess Tutu is the same with the fairytale things.
So, really, it's more about finding a theme for your symbology.
>>46084593
OH MY GOD you didn't watch the English Madoka did you? Subtitles. Get the subtitles. If the subtitles are fan made, if they were made literally days after the original series premiered with no time for polishing, all the better. The die-hard fans really made superior sub.
Like fuck the first time I saw the official English dub I literally thought twelve-year-olds on youtube tried dubbing it unoffically with their shitty equipment and crap bilingualism. No it was the legit. My soul grew dimmer that day.
Mmm watch at least the first episode of Sailor Moon, maybe up to the third+ if you like it but seeing at least one later episode is more important than seeing more than that if you're pressed for time. That show really defined modern maguka as a genre. (also the 90s series has AMAZING animation)
Card Captor Sakura is pretty but also very slow. You can find manga scanlations online super easy it's literally just the anime with all the useless filler torn out. But you won't get the foundational understanding of Magical Gurl from it as you will get from Sailor Moon you'll mostly only get inspiration and an understanding of how MG works with a modern-world update and played in a small-town aesthetic. And Kero. Kero really brought the Patronizing And Allpowerful Yet Somehow Friendly And Super Cute puchuu trope out.
Sailor Moon followed up by Sakura is GOLDEN. Maduka is really something you should watch after that, cause you know it's so "self aware" and post-everything (i love it)
Japanese Symbolism... isn't my forte desu. Time-wise some other anon-chan or a well sought out web article can get you the very basics better and quicker than I could.
>>46084857
GOLD GOLD GOLD GOLD
it goes WAY overboard with the symbolism if you're looking for very specific symbols to port into your game. if all you want is an understanding of the genre's common symbols Utena will give you that and a crap load of extra symbolism thrown in.
it goes into symbolism way heavy though. hmmm there's this early episode of Sailor Moon where some evil guy sends the sailor scouts a train to and airport and they just... get on it. thas classic symbolism. it's like them being naive and young and letting the guy rule their lives. he's trying to kill them and they play right into his trap because they're trying to do what they think brave serious super heroes would do instead of just being brave and serious in their own way, i think. (i was like 5 when i watched it my memory is exceptional but the particulars of what all of that meant should be taken with salt.) Utena is basically JUST that kind of symbolism with most of the literal plot they needed to sow it together just forgone. substance forsaken in the quest for meaning~
>>46085042
i meant to
>greentext
the phrase "Revolutionary Girl Utena" when i made that post my apologies
>>46084857
No, I tried the sub. If the pacing improves I could give it another shot. I'll try it by turning the sound off I guess and just read the subtitles. I just couldn't stand all the high-pitched squeal voices whenever they weren't monologuing.
So finding a theme for my symbology - not sure what'd be good for that and it sounds pretty out of my usual favoured characterization of loyalty/spirituality/independence. I might just ask my players what kind of characters they're interested in first. I do like the addition of the mundane in card captor though, that the magic isn't just straight up super powers so they use roller skates to get around more quickly. Seems like it could reward player creativity within that framework.
>>46084947
I'd sorta wanted to avoid sailor moon because all my memories of it as a kid were my sister watching it and playing around and being incredibly obnoxious about it when I just wanted to watch zoids or dragonball. But I guess I can suffer through an episode or two.
>>46085042
Uh ok. That's a lot more, upfront than I expected.
>>46085145
Try Heartcatch. It's fun.
How should I do meguca symbolism?
>>46086503
You don't, and everyone who is still giving a shit about the well being of others thanks you for not sending little girls to their goddamned dooms.
Rolled 10, 16, 2, 15, 9, 1, 10, 17, 4, 2, 12, 15 = 113 (12d20)
>>46086503
If you're writing in the irc don't bother or you'll be called out for trying too hard
If you're gming or writing elsewhere elsewhere the rule of threes is always golden. Let's talk visual symbolism for what its worth. Pick 3 major symbols - like a rose kept wrapped in thorny chains, a star trapped on the point of a crescent moon, a caged bird. You want symbols that have underlying sexuality that can be projected onto and associated mythos. Beauty and the beast as a fairy tale archetype, NOT just the Disney plotline, is a fairly accessible way to go about it.
You want to provoke a snap reaction from your magical girl and the interaction she has with these symbols. What does it mean if the villain leaves a locked rose everywhere he's been? Could it be he's threatening our heroine? Maybe tragically misunderstood and in love? Or is it a simple threat that he will try to lock us up? Or is it connected with his power somehow?
Obviously these are on the more emotional and feminine spectrum of logic, but that's what magical girling is all about. The symbol, meaningless as it can be if you try to use rationality, is a projection that draws a connection that otherwise wouldn't be there.
Another symbol could be for your magical girl herself. I don't think it needs to be said that femininity, coming of age, sexual maturation are all common themes here to work with and there's hundreds if not thousands to work with. Whatever symbol you pick, don't shy away from a plot where that symbol starts having a literal presence and affect on your mahou. Think: Cowgirl from Utena, Sayaka the orchestral mer-witch. Sure it can be nonsensical, over the top, but you're trying to get a meaningful emotional reaction here that ties in to themes that are especially relevant to a young girl.
Last, visual symbols as plot get a little more complex. The best recent example I can think of is YuriKuma
>>46088618
Right, so visual representations of your overall plot.
YuriKuma's butterflies? Bam. Plot about butterfly effect, every NPC, enemy you talk to will later show up again to emphasize the fact that your choices matter.
Bride in a box? Enjoy your plot about the oppression of women/girls in your setting. From the "man" aka dude villains, or how damsels in distress are a role to take on, or about how to weaponize feminity. Tons of places you could go here including an Ice King kinda scenario: dude kidnapping princesses.
Love bullet? Plot about how sacrificial love is THE ultimate expression of a relationship. Better have an ending in mind that will cause us to shed bitch tears. Our MC dying, her beloved friend taking the final blow so we can save humanity, you get the idea.
Three symbols. For the intrigue and relationship between your characters and your conflict, one for your girls internal or external struggle, and one for plot. This is probably the most straightforward and cookiecutter explanation I can give, but don't be afraid to be experimental~ Or even have symbols that you've attached no meaning to yourself and leave it up to your audience to draw the lines together. Worked for Eva and Utena.
Hope that helped!
>>46088618
>If you're writing in the irc don't bother or you'll be called out for trying too hard.iktf
>>46090585
It's okay anon. Just turn your brain off to enjoy grimderp and headpat harem fun
>>46079565
Read this.
>>46090746
And whoever stopped reposting that in these threads is a bad girl in need of a good spanking.Newfags read that shit.
>>46090796
Last time I made the thread, instead of posting the pdf, it was replaced with a jpg and had the title "Shit no one reads". Only two people noticed.kek.
>>46090888
>>46090746
I read this but by and large it doesn't mean anything. It speaks with a broad brush and there is little of substance outside of 'if you like this word I repeated, try this thing from the 70's.' While it must be decent for someone who is familiar with some of those works, it is mostly a 'watch this' list to anyone else and not a terribly convincing one at that.
>>46090968
Considering her "poor mother" is a fucking psycho?
>>46091132
Watch Heartcatch Precure
>>46090968
Yes, mommy dearest.
Rolled 13, 8, 2, 10, 19, 17, 20, 13, 14, 2, 14, 11 = 143 (12d20)
Rolled 10, 10, 11, 18, 12, 9, 1, 19, 3, 20, 9, 17 = 139 (12d20)
dice+12d20
>>46097085
In the options field, anon.
Rolled 3, 7, 12, 19, 8, 8, 4, 7, 11, 13, 11, 17 = 120 (12d20)
>>46097121
First time I actually felt like rolling, thanks.
Tfw 220k for 5 Rerolls
Feels good man
Would Claws be less OP if it were '8 or more before modifications' instead of 'after modifications'
>>46097348
what
Must. Foul.
>>46097479
Used 3 bribes by the second foul and got 2 stuns.
Fuck my life.
>>46097790
Third foul wasnt an ejection for once but it was still just a stun.
>>46097880
Got her a MNG and the other witchelf Ko'd before finally having someone sent off for fouls
>>46097880
*erection
>>46098069
whoos meant tosensorthat
and i did... the code doesn't work if you use in on a chunk of letters in the whole word... what a strange world we live in
>>46097479
Only gave her a MNG, killed this guy tho. He apo'd a -ma earlier.
>>46091132
watch Madoka
>>46090888
>tfw I literally just learned who this lovely semen demon is
>>46091132
Watch Seinfeld
>>46098460
>>46098042
>>46097880
>>46097479
>>46097790
I seriously cannot fucking read tab names. Jesus. Why cant I delete posts that are older than like 5 seconds.
>>46100235
w-who is it, anon?
>>46100235
Who is it? I want to know forresearch purposes.
>>46102603
>>46103872
hint: galko (or gyaru-ko)
>>46088618
>Yuri kuma
Was pretty boring though.
Rolled 20, 14, 14, 1, 6, 8, 3, 4, 19, 15, 13, 14 = 131 (12d20)
Tell me Anons! Does your Mahou believe in true love? Why or why not?
>>46109149
No, eternity is a pretty long time.
Does your puchuu grant wishes, and if so, what did your magical girl wish for?
>>46109149Only if it's you, BK
Rolled 13, 7, 20, 15, 18, 3, 7, 7, 6, 9, 13, 7 = 125 (12d20)
>>46037330
> No ovaries = no hormones
Uuuuuuh...that's not quite how that one works. Sure if they turn off or what have you there'd be less hormones and certainly no periods, but definitely not none. You think postmenopausal women don't have hormones or something?
>>46109149
Love is like a garden: with enough effort it can be cultivated anywhere, but just that is not enough. It must be maintained, lest it grow thorny, ragged, and eventually overrun.
>>46100392
It's okay anon, I understand. I would have gotten my whole team sent off fouling that bitch. You did good, even if she lives.
>>46114522
>It must be maintained, lest it grow thorny, ragged, and eventually overrun.
So... Homura?
>>46114522
> with enough effort, it can be cultivated anywhere.
> anywhere
Sure. You do that.
Rolled 5, 13, 20, 8, 16, 17, 13, 17, 18, 13, 5, 6 = 151 (12d20)
>>46114522
Love is like both of you cutting holes in yourself so that you both can fit together like a puzzle. It's painful, and not always worth it, especially if you find yourself cutting more than the other.
>>46115471
>>46115708
Confirmed bitter and salty. Good things exist in the world too, you know.
>>46115791
>Good things exist in the world too, you know.
-and love isn't always one of them.
>>46115864
Nor is it always never. What's your point?
>>46115791
When you're in a relationship for years, living together, this is just a reality. Sure it's nice, but be ready to forego some of yourself for thier sake, and them the same. People have too high expectations for relationships and love and think that they HAVE to have it in order to have a happy life when in reality it can complicate things. Thanks media.
Does your Mahou have honour?
>>46109149Only if it's between two girls
>>46109149
Xochi:Yes
Oliver:No
Alex:Maybe
Lynnia:I don't know
Brush:Can you repeat the question?
>>46117489
For Brush:
What is love?
>>46119540
Baby don't hurt me
No more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I
>>46119540
A second-hand emotion.
>>46116401
And you call yourself a magical girl?
>>46122107
No.A magical boy
>>46079565
Sailor Nothing (Basically what the WoD fan game is base off)
Natural Age at it's finest.
Have your Mahous ever accidentally killed someone? Was it a civilian that got caught in the cross-fire? How about a villain that just wouldn't give up?
>>46129703
Yes, before she was even one in the first place. She just knocked her into a badly placed stone and cracked her skull open. Then, SHE became mahou. Whoops!
This is probably a stupid question, but...How would you design a mahou that could live until heat death?
>>46134225
They are already immortal, but for extra immortality soul jar and phylacterying an incorporeal familiar?
>>46134225
Fire/Plant Dual Spec, Enhanced Sustenance, some kinda water-making spell with Halfblooded, and what >>46134313 said.
>>46134357
Environmental sealing could also allow her to survive the heat death
>>46134374
Good point. What shall we call this blessed mahou?
>>46134394
Multivac-chan?
>>46134357
>not reinforcement
>>46134394
Kami-chan
>>46134465
Multivac-chan it is!
Any other perks that might be useful?
>>46134482
normal mahou perks of eternal style and enhanced outfit, healing artifact, interdimensional home so she has a place to chill after all else is over and a way out for when she gets tired of it
or sturdy
make her a mong and give her disembodied immortal
>>46134511
Doh! Interdimensional home sorts out the food, warmth and water problems, I guess. Hell, it solves all the problems. Even the Reinforcement one, >>46134475 Anon. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
>>46134465
>>46134482
also, 10 points to whoever recognizes this reference
>>46134722And AC said: "Let there be light!" And there was light-
Rolled 10, 20, 11, 20, 15, 19, 18, 11, 8, 9, 16, 17 = 174 (12d20)
>>46134722
Multivac-chan has to answer the last question somehow, anon.
Imagine Multivac-chan eventually becoming the leader of humankind after many, many millions of years spent pondering the Question.
Her puchuu comes to her, and even it has grown weary and ragged in its heart.
"I couldn't have imagined all this after all this time," it says.
"Me neither. But there are things that must be done. As long as magic still exists, everything will be all right."
>>46137730
>Implying Multivac-chan isn't a fusion of all the girls just as Man joined the AC
Rolled 4, 7, 5, 4, 3, 14, 13, 17, 17, 9, 17, 17 = 127 (12d20)
Anyone with cosplay outfit?
>>46143858
>>46144696
Rolled 13, 13, 12, 19, 8, 20, 10, 17, 5, 10, 4, 15 = 146 (12d20)
Up
Is your mahou still in touch with her parents? How well do they get along?
Rolled 15, 14, 12, 12, 3, 16, 14, 10, 15, 10, 2, 7 = 130 (12d20)
>>46137730
Multivac-chan:Secretly the power responsible for all the puchuu
>>46127324
you have to be a top notch mahou to make it to that age without getting offed or crushed under an apocalypse in another dimension
>>46134394
The Loneliest Angel
Or just Lonely, for short
No-one will realize it's foreshadowing until it's too late
>>46134225
((btw environmental sealing, enahnced sustenance, and wings are trio made in heaven, reinforcement and any awareness/healing skills to make sure you make it that long are bonus))
Multivac-chan must be the loneliest person ever. Imagine having watched millions of loved ones die over an eternity of eternities, until eventually all that's left is the void.
>>46160043
I'm pretty sure Mutlivac-chan wouldn't the only thing out of her entire existence to survive in The Void. There naturally would be plenty of other powerful beings who don't need the Universe to begin with left as well.
>>46160460
Why doesn't she just go back to the overcity and pick another part of the multi-verse to live in?
Rolled 18, 11, 15, 7, 7, 11, 11, 12, 8, 20, 13, 15 = 148 (12d20)
Rolled 14, 8, 15, 19, 9, 13, 2, 15, 20, 1, 3, 5 = 124 (12d20)
Rolled 3, 6, 10, 14, 2, 10, 5, 15, 5, 19, 13, 15 = 117 (12d20)
>>46154653
Mol's parents are kill.
Pats' parents probably call but they don't pick up because they're unsure how to explain "I'm a twelve year old girl now. I need money."
>>46166014
Correction
"I'm two twelve year old girls now. Also I need money."
>>46166014
>>46166056
I'm sure if they sit down with them and have quiz hour they can accept that, yes, this has happened to him. -and maybe let hi-, I mean he-, I mean them, have some money or come back home.
I mean really now. You guys may have shitty parents if you can't tell your parents the very strange, yet important truth. Of course I expect problems, but still. Good Scenario: They're your parents, they put you on this Earth, raised you up into the world, they give a shit about you.
Bad Scenario: Your parents are sheeeeeeeeet, and bothering with them is useless or may worsen things.
That being said...
>>46154653HIS PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAD!
>>46166180
Hey now, my parents are great, PatParents might be nice too but Pats still aren't sure how to explain the situation. It's embarrassing.They'll have to eventually, though.
>>46160542
But why would Multivac-chan leave? She still has a question to answer...
>>46166056
About ten twelve year old girls, actually.
>>46129703
Before Akira was a hero, she was just a student attending college.
And then she discovered that she had a monster girl in her dorm.
Rolled 10, 19, 5, 8, 10, 17, 1, 17, 8, 4, 1, 13 = 113 (12d20)
>>46109149
"True Love" isn't something Belinda really thinks about much, but she wants to believe in it. At the very least, she knows her parents love each other, even if they sometimes disagree over things.
>>46117038
Not exactly. Belinda's pacifistic nature doesn't exactly mesh with her worryingly powerful, yet hard to handle Fire magic. Generally, she would rather flee from battle than harm her opponents. The exception is when someone else's life is on the line or she goes up against an entity that possesses people. The former case leads to her fighting reluctantly, but the latter case makes it much more difficult for her to restrain herself. Purification by fire is not a safe process for the host.
>>46129703
Her body count miraculously remains zero. Still, there have been a number of close calls or deaths in proximity to her and she feels guilty over them.
>>46154653
Somewhat. They know what happened to Belinda and miss her, but she can't really live at home anymore. She does try to call and write to them, but the incident that turned her into a magical girl makes it difficult for her to return. Her parents would accept her back well enough, but explaining the situation to others would be impossible.
>>46174348
By any chance, does Belinda know characters named Elphaba or Glinda?
Hello again. Talked about it with my potential players but what they asked for was a country-wide/lightly international political game involving magical girls (also they had assumed more players involved than I had) and I couldn't figure out how to reconcile what they wanted to achieve with what I picked up from the suggested media being very tightly focused on a specific area and the characters - not to mention the scope itself and the quantity of npcs and settings I'd need to build with the level of detail to make the genre work with that scope is beyond what my free time allows.
Thanks for the help, it helped me realize that the game they want I wouldn't be able to provide.
>>46174891
DIO pls, you may be a sexy beast but you'll never be the cute girl.
>>46166381
>They'll have to eventually, though.
Bullshit. Do what the angels did. Let everyone assume you died.
>>46154653
Lynnia: Since the ship she and her classmates were on crashed, he thinks she's dead. Would be interesting for her to meet him again somehow. Before that, she and her dad were both into sports so he acted as her coach many times as they trained and played together.
Alexander: Mother wants him to reach the top of everything as much as possible so he can have a better life, so she's the most strict on him about his social status and rubbing elbows with important people. His dad is laid back, and wished his son and wife relax a bit more, so sometimes he takes them both on suprise "vacations" which consist of the cheapest trips possible. (staying in 2 star motels, seeing 'giant yarn balls', etc.) Alex is a bit embarrassed by this so he keeps up an appearance as if he's rich, but still cares for him family.
Xoxhi: Being the youngest of 3, and also promised to a god, her parents raised her to be a perfect wife. Cooking, cleaning, proper worshipping, visits to the temples. They love her and she them, and want her to be the best gift to the god/patron she's betrothed to. Her siblings however, see this as very, very wrong and thus fight with her and her parents often about it. They even sought out to be magical themselves to try and stop this wedding somehow.
Oliver: He/she didn't know her parents and was adopted by the coven, so his parental figures are various priests and nuns. They were good to him, but he just didn't agree with thier beliefs and didn't like being locked away from the world.
Brush: A priest who is convinced that Brush is his son, and is part of the reason his village sees the boy as a god. He sells "blessed" trinkets, organizes worshiping ceremonies, and teaches Brush on how to properly act. The monster boy knows his 'father' means well, and he enjoys helping but he tries his best to live as normal as a life as possible. While his father doesn't agree entirely, he does see it as an opportunity for the boy to learn more about life.
>>46176448
Alas no, she does not. She was just a girl I rolled quite a while back and have been sending on adventures that are admittedly out of her league.
Still, you now have me wondering about the Oz setting and how that could be mined for some interesting mahou-related ideas...
>>46178369
>country-wide/lightly international political game involving magical girls
It's what happens when the WoD crowd wants to do magical girls.
"If you want to play Mage, then bloody play Mage!"
>the quantity of npcs and settings I'd need to build with the level of detail to make the genre work with that scope
I know right? And I would add "knowing perfectly that so many of them would never achieve any second of 'screentime' because of player choices leading the PCs to never meet them."
>>46184006
I'm not entirely sure why you'd choose to play a magical girl game in WoD anyways - it seems more like a superhero game of some sort (Savage Worlds Supers would probably work actually) would be better suited. Maybe Unknown Armies if you want it to be dark as all fuck.
>>46184208
>I'm not entirely sure why you'd choose to play a magical girl game in WoD anyways
Probably the appeal of being turned into a girl to fulfill a fetish.
>>46184358
>Prometheans all just want to be the little girl
>>46085042
>hmmm there's this early episode of Sailor Moon where some evil guy sends the sailor scouts a train to and airport and they just... get on it.
That... doesn't happen. If that's the episode I'm thinking of from S1 Sailor Moon, the Evil Guy makes a huge illusion of himself above the entire city and tells the girls to show up for a showdown at the airport that evening or he's just going to set all of Tokyo on fire.
I'm relatively sure Jadeite doesn't send the train for them, but then I'm recalling something from when I was 10, so he might have been watching of it could have been cut in a less than 100% clear way.
>>46061314For Maeve, yes. When asked if that's canon, I've said that the transformed are biologically female with all that entails - have fun with your periods new mahous. That said, >>46067189 is entirely correct. If having it is something you'd like to use to play for drama, you have to deal it. If NOT having it is something to use to play for drama, you can do that too. If it's something you never want to touch on because it'd get in the way of your action plot, don't mention it. I wrote a writing prompt/adventure seed here, so develop it as you prefer.
>>46109149
Not really. Being a dude in his 30's prior to becoming an involunraty mahou, 'twu wuv' is a fantasy to Maeve. Love - sure. 'True' love is for storybooks.
>>46117038
Eh... not really.
>>46129703
Well... Maeve killed the mahou who got her into this whole mess, so bodycount is 1 as of now.
>>46154653
Nope.
Rolled 13, 4, 18, 2, 13, 16, 19, 11, 1, 11, 18, 9 = 135 (12d20)
