In your personal opinion, is this sword too big?
Depends on the level of realism you're going for. It would absolutely be too large in a 100% realistic medieval setting, but in most settings where people are capable of borderline superhuman feats, it's fine.
>>46014947Depends on the setting.
there is never too big a sword.
it is only to big when you can not use it.
depends entirely on if the wielder has above base human strength
Depends on how tall that person is.
If he is like four feet tall, then you are looking at a six foot claymore that is a bit too thick to be a proper weapon because of weight issues.
If he is six foot tall? Yup, that sword is too big.
To be fair, if you train yourself to the point you can effectively use that weapon with speed and precision of any sort, then you have a nasty fighter on your hands, but odds are low you can do so with any kind of real chance to develop skills with it.
not big enough
>>46014947
Needs to be bigger.Black Knight weapons are fucking dope.
>>46015019
>>46015041
I'm thinking to myself, "could the absolute strongest baseline human who ever lived swing this thing around effectively?"
Just a normal guy who lifts constantly and has some fortunate genetics.
>>46015541
and the answer would be no.
the important thing is, that the average human, swinging a normal sized sword around would be more effective.
because bigger does not make it better. energy = Mass x Velocity Squared.
a lighter weapon moving faster, has more energy than a huge, heavy one, going slowly.
which unfortunately, game designers do not understand.
>>46015701
Weren't IRL zweihanders pretty much Top Sword despite being fuckoff huge?
4 1/2 to 7 pounds, up to 6 feet long.
And then there's this guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pier_Gerlofs_Donia#Superhuman_strength_and_size
>>46014947
If you want to be super realistic, depending on the mass of the sword, even with superhuman strength it could be unusable, simply because of center of the mass (of person + sword) being "too far from body". In other words weight of the sword would cause torque and make wielder fall. Gravity doesn't give a fuck about your STR, you want a huge weapon, you have to be huge.
>>46015881
They were not THAT heavy tho. You could swing them fast enough to hurt
>>46014947
Bit too long and way too thick for a sword of that side. The crossguard is also too much material for two-handed blade.
But you need to consider that this weapon is used by giants, so a version for humans would probably be alright.
>>46015881
Ayupp. The only problem with OP's sword is that the proportions for an espada or other huge two handed sword are off. It looks both too thick and too wide. It looks more like a scaled up longsword than a zweihander.
Of course it's also made for scaled up super-humans so it makes some sense...Obligatory "zweihanders are actually the modern term"
>>46015881
Weren't those fairly niche though?
>>46016135
We had to come up with all these modern terms for swords because at the time people just called them "currently the best sword we know how to make."
>>46016215
No, they just called them swords.
Except for some smug Germans that called some knifes because they needed them to cut the bread in the tavern and totally not to murder their neighbor for damaging their fence.
>>46016297
I mean, a sword really is just a scaled-up knife. You can see how that'd work out in language.
Put it on THE SCALE
>>46014947
Yeah. I mean, it can't be easy maneuvering with something that big. You'd be dead before you could even lift it.
>>46016382
>starts at longsword with absurdly long grip
Shit scale.
THICKER
THICKER...!
>>46015701
>which unfortunately, game designers do not understand.
It's not that they don't understand, it's that they don't fucking care. Physics take a backseat to things like game balance for the sake of making a fun game.
>>46016543
It's fine unless you're intentionally trying to make something realistic. Which is why there aren't any anime swords in chivalry or mountain blade.
>>46016464
It's supposed to measure how large the biggest useable-by-humans melee weapon in your setting is.
How big are greatswords supposed to be in D&D, anyway? I've never heard of anyone complain that they're too anime.
>>46016684
Because large and medium sized weapons are different categories. A longsword is about 4-5 feet long.
>>46016382
3 is ok,but only because blade is so thin. Leave bigger weapons to bigger people
>>46016816
I don't understand. Are the large weapons not so large as to get complaints from the realism lobby, then?
sword.sps
>>46015881
>Weren't IRL zweihanders pretty much Top Sword despite being fuckoff huge?
Not really.
They were mostly used for formation fighting; pushing/smashing pikes out of the way, keeping multiple opponents at bay, that sort of thing.
>>46017054
Why is bastard sword exotic?
>>46017131
Is that a zweihander?
...am I a zweihander?
>>46017222
We're all zweihanders on the outside, anon.
>>46017204
/shrug
>>46017204
Using it in one hand with no penalty is what the exotic weapon feat is for
>>46017222
>Is that a zweihander?
Looks too unwieldy to use effectively in one hand, so yes?
>...am I a zweihander?
Maybe? Indentify as whatever you want, anon.
Good guys use longswords, bad guys use bastard swords, barbarians/monsters/people from Scotland use greatswords.
>>46017323
What does the pope use?
>>46014947
For you
>>46017418
A crosier and divine magic.
>>46014947
If anything, it's too small. How do you expect to fight a giant or a dragon with a toothpick like that? Ask that again when you're holding a real sword.
>>46017418
Guys with either longswords or bastard swords, depending on which side the protagonist of the story is on.
>>46017468
>not divine rapier
Try again.
>>46016382
Past 4 is too much for me, even if it's musclebound hulksor cute superpowered anime girlsswinging them around
>>46017323
>barbarians/monsters/people from Scotland
But I repeat myself.
>>46017482
Unless the hero is composed of dark matter, anything past 3 is gonna fly out of his hands when swung.
>>46017663
What about a superdense longsword? Make it out of neutronium or something.
>>46017311
I identify as a swiss saber tho
>>46017736
you have to carry it all day you know
>>46017663
>not taking the dark matter feat in ALL your games
scrub
>>46017736
Doesn't a neutronium longsword require like 1000 strength to wield
>>46017663
>He's limited by the bounds of puny Earth humans.
>>46017880
the best stat
>>46017851
If you can afford a neutronium sword you can afford a neutronium swordbearer.
>>46015881
>>46014947
It's not necessarily too long, but given that length, which is (if we're being a bit generous) about the maximum length you could feasibly make a decent sword at, it's absolutely too wide and too thick.
>>46017131
>that chain
...She just WANTS it ripped out of her hands, doesn't she?
>>46017646
As a Scottish-American, I sayyou're absolutely right.
>>46017323
>>46017646
>>46018161
>Scottish
>>46014947
Is this Dark Souls? I don't recognize these weapons.
>>46015701
>a lighter weapon moving faster, has more energy than a huge, heavy one, going slowly.
Can't be certain without numbers. There are also limits on how quickly something can be swung, which is based on human anatomy (muscle contraction rates, bone lengths, etc.)
>>46016353
This is actually wrong. The materials, construction methods, and shape of knives are all normally different than swords in addition to the obvious differences in size, weight, and function.
>>46018371
It's dark souls 2, thought in-universe that's supposed to be a DSI black knight sword with new fittings.
>>46016382
Ignoring how stupid the swords look and judging primarily on length from guard to tip of blade (rather than measuring from the pommel, as some of these have absurdly long hilts), I'd say that 4 is the peak sword she could use efficiently. Maybe 5 (though only if it were straight). 6 would be less than ideal, but assuming some degree of half-swording was frequent, it could be usable (again, assuming we're just going by length from quillons to point, and not going by shape, otherwise a blade that shape would need to be significantly shorter for her to use). 7 is garbage. If somebody tried to use that in a game, I would penalize the fuck out them (after, you know, warning them that I would penalize the fuck out of them ahead of time).
Making a rough guess at the dimensions, it would be completely and utterly impractical.
Would you fuck this sword y/n.
>>46019133
I Would marry, have children and grow old with the Silver Knight's Sword.
>>46019133
I'm gonna fuck it
>>46014947
Yes, it looks like you couldn't use it properly. Just imagine waving around a chunk of steel of that size in real life, it's not hard to figure out.
>>46019133
That's exactly what I think of when someone mentions alchemical silver weapons.
>His sword is made of matter
>>46015541
I mean, if you gave it to Grutte Pier he'd probably use it well, but he was like seven feet tall. We still have his sword in a museum somewhere. Did someone mention Big Per yet? I always come into these threads late.
>>46019783
>He needs a sword to be the greatest swordsman.
>>46017131
The Spanish definitely used the Montante for dueling and such, but it is literally mentioned in manuals and such that it is a "weapon that can face many and succeed," so it seems like it was meant for big battles, particularly for defending officers and flags.
There's also a fechtbuch that depicts quite spectacularly a guy with a sword standing over a literal pile of spearheads, suggesting that they had some method to strike polearms repeatedly in a defense posture, causing them to eventually break. The idea of them just being used to lop off spearheads left and right, though, is pretty ridiculous, nobody is strong enough to do that.
>>46019783
What was that one story about Genius The Transgression and the one guy who had an Atomic Blade because it was made of Atoms?
Separately, what would be the best weapon to carry around and make dance for you, because you're a wusslord wizard and don't feel like getting stabbed, but still want to mix it up with a sword?
BIGGER!
>>46017663
>Autism
More than anime-huge swords, I hate hammers the size of anvils.
>>46020091
Heard you talkin shit like I wasn't listening.
>>46020091
i agree. why bother making anvil-sized hammer when you can just use an anvil?
>>46020197
>>46020235
>Gyrm mind
There's a whole lot of wheeling and dealin going on here.
>>46014947
Too big for what?
Welding in real life or in a small enclosed area in any setting?
Sure, too big and especially too thick.
Too big for any anime-inspired or otherwise super high powered setting?
Not by a long shot, that's practically a one-handed weapon.
>>46020235
GGH is the bomb, Velstadt's Hammer is pretty neat tooalso your fashion is trash
>>46020043
My favorite thing about this pic is that the catapult isn't actually big/strong enough to swing that sword.
Now I have a hankering for really retarded siege engines, like a trebuchet on wheels with a fuckoff huge sword as the arm.
Comfy sweater and falchion are best
>>46020498
she's beautiful.
Don't mind me, just making Iron Keep great again.
>>46020725
what, are you gonna grab a bucket and dump out all the lava or some shit?
>>46020919
The lava is what makes it great. If anything, we need more lava.
>>46017663
>muh human baseline
Fuck realism, if the guy in the pointy hat can make reality his bitch then I at least want to defy physics by swinging around the biggest stick I can find.
>>46014947
For practical use, it looks too long, thick and broad.
For ceremonial/parade use, I see no problem
>>46014947
Its thicker than pretty much any non-bearing swords. That said a good number of zwiehanders and some of earlier estoc variants were actually longer than it IRL and saw use in battle.
Hey, is Lathander your best bet if you wanna praise the sun in FR?
Who here /claymore/? they've fixed it in DaS3
>>46014947
>>46015243
>>46015345
>>46020725
whose the clown who decided to take pictures of all the gear in das2 in front of the ugliest texture in the whole game?
>>46017850
Did he really write his signature into a penis
>>46019133
such a great looking weapon, shame the moveset/stats are a shit
Dark souls 3 is gonna have a bunch of awesome longswords, can't wait
>>46021359
>they've fixed it in DaS3
Fixed it how?
>>46021477
they fucked its shit up in 2, remember?
was still a good weapon but it lost its little signature things on the ends of the crossguard
How useful would be this sword?
>>46021551
Loyce GS is sexy, shame B-team can't make decent metal textures, so everything in DSII looks like its made of plastic
>>46021227
Blade width really gets to me more than size.
>>46021305
Yes, Lathander is pretty much PRAISE THE SUN embodied.
Who /side-sword/ here?
>>46021532
I like the design. Nice and simple, could've probably been the regular greatsword if they hadn't gone with that big stupid thing instead. But yeah, it's definitely not a claymore.
Why do video games and anime always make such stupid looking weapons? Are the marketing hacks worried about plebs not being able to see the weapons, that they need to be paddles in order to be distinctive?
>>46022572
You just have different tastes. If you want to see "real-life" stupid weapons, there's plenty of examples.
And, there's plenty of anime and video games with awesome looking weapons. I don't even know what you're trying to say, aside from that you just seem to be trying to broadly spew hate.
>>46022643
Bruh, I love anime and video games. Paddles just bug me. I'd much rather have my character swinging around something remotely realistic rather than Berserk-tier swords.
>>46020091
With a hammer like that, you might be able to say it's a maul or something. But I find it annoying when one-handed hammers and maces and such have to have tiny heads which make them look useless, or they are useless.
>>46022691
Then you should have just said "I don't like paddles and unrealistic weapons."
I myself have the superior taste of recognizing that unrealistic weapons expand the potential options and designs available for imaginative designers to explore, and that they can easily find their place in a wide variety of styles. They might not fit in every game, but that's hardly a reason to try and dismiss people who actively use their imagination and explore the question of "what kind of weapons would extremely strong people use?" or "What would a weapon designed by a magical artisan look like?" or simply "How awesome would a sword that's really, really big be?"
>>46022960
I too enjoy glass pizza cutters
>>46022889
Smaller heads are better though. A light head with a long handle can be swung with more energy than a heavy head with a short handle.
>>46023114
They're pretty cool as far as magical weapons used in a dream world go, but the coolest part of the design has to be the nickel elbows and knees.
>>46023116
Why not have a long handle with a large head and get the best of both worlds? It'll definitely be harder to get a second swing in, but the first swing could pummel just about anything.
>>46023114
Everything about this character design triggers the hell out my autism every time I see it. It somehow manages to be worse than the usual JRPG design process of adding belts to everything.
>>46023224
How do you feel about this character?
>>46016638
>chivalry
>realistic
Did they ever patch out the instant death overhand greatsword limbo swing?
>>46021359
First play through I was claymore/shield til last few hours when I got black knight shit.
>>46023271
Not something I would consider aesthetically pleasing but not nearly as a mess as the other one.
>>46023308
Just making sure that you are a hopeless person that I don't really need to take seriously.
>>46023211
Because any entity wielding a hammer is finitely strong, and making the handle even longer and the head lighter will always yield better results.
Hey, since this is swordchat, are a longsword and a katana roughly the same length?
>>46021551
in the hands of that glorious man.
Verry
>>46021227
That's a spear with a hand-guard
>>46023366
Wait, you actually like shitty JRPG designs?
>>46023532
Essentially yes, though it hurts a lot more than a spear if you smack someone with the side of it.
>>46023383
But it looks...dinky.
>>46023606
Now that's a sexy warhammer.
>>46022889
>actual weapons that real life people engaged in combat with
>hurr they look useless
Wew lad
>>46023467
Since both have infinite variants, sure I guess.
>>46023741
I know there's a point where xbox hueg gets ridiculous, but at least they look like they could really do some damage.
>>46023908
Over twice the file size limit but you will enjoy this webum http://imgur.com/etWDJtf
Hammers are love. Hammers are life.
>>46015541
I actually knew this really scrawny looking guy who practiced sword fighting techniques with a 18' long, 4" diameter piece of PVC pipe. Close enough to full speed, too. He also would go through forms while dual-wielding claymores.
So he probably could use a sword that size effectively.
But even still, he'd probably be more effective in an actual fight if he was just using one of the larger real-world swords, like a zweinhander or something.
>>46019133
Shitty stat scaling but otherwise solid base stats and augmentable. good for mid range build.
>>46023908
What you just posted looks like it really do some damage. The big anvil things look like they could only do damage if you dropped them out of a plane. Well, they really would hurt there, but that's not really how we assume they should be used.
>>46014947
depends on the setting.
>>46024093
That's practically swinging a staff around. You might as well leave the hammer bit off at that point.
>>46027644
War hammers on poles were for fighting mounted knights mostly.
>>46024093
FUCKING VANGUARDS REEEEEEEEEE
>>46019999
If I'm remembering correctly, the method wasn't to lop off the spearheads in midair, but to chop down, biting into the wood, driving the point into the ground at which point it would snap.
I could be wrong though. I don't remember where I learned that so I could just be making it up.
>>46027644
It's for fighting armored opponents. The hammer head is hard and heavy enough to strike and deform plate armor, injuring and hindering the occupant.
Against a fleshy target you'd be better served with a sword or spear.
>>46014947
it is but also you obtain that sword from a 3 meters tall knight, while you are an undead.
>>46022889
The standard claw hammer weighs about what a warhammer would weigh. Except a warhammer would have a longer handle and a smaller profile.
My favourite blunt weapon though would be the gepinde staf, better known as the Goedendag. Because any weapon that is a combination of club and spear is a win in my books.
>>46023114
It would be even better if that weapon was actually usable in the game and not just used on the sprites of NPCs
>>46016382
UHHHHHH THICKER
>>46020449
That is gorgeous armour, Velstadt is probably my favourite character in vanilla DaS2
>>46014947
Yeah
I like the bastard sword because it has bastard on it's name
>>46014947
That depends.
What do you intend to kill?
>>46029306
Verisimilitude.
