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Will Sorin died?
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Will Sorin died?
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>>45998931
yes
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>>45998931
no
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>>45999373
>>45999421
So, maybe?
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>>45999478
yes
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>>45999478
no
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>>45999521
>>45999531
So, maybe?
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>>45998931
Ideally, he will give up his spark and his life to purify Avacyn and make her a planeswalker, letting her carry on his legacy so he can finally rest. This is a natural conclusion to his character arc of being tired and apathetic about life, and is also
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in light of what Urza and Venser did for Karn.

I don't think this is what WotC has planned though.
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>>45999599
I don't know, can you repeat the question?
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>>45999603
Fuck that, other planeswalkers who suck should die instead
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>>45999605
Yes
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>>45999657
But they all suck, anon.
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>>45998931
What the fuck is up with that flavortext
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>>45999821
Methinks it's donuts

and it's fucking horrible
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>>45999821
It's a shoop. Making fun of the original text
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No, he kills Avacyn. The accumulated guilt of centuries of trying but failing to do the right thing will lead to one of two options. Either he will stay and rebuild Innistrad, or he will join as the Black Power Ranger. Lili never cares for protecting others, so she obviously won't be the next Oath Keeper. It has to be Sorin.
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>>46001431
But then who will be the pink ranger?
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>>46001483
Narset. Gotta have that race, gender, and neurological condition equality.
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>>45999603
Of course not. That would be dumb, he very much enjoys immortality.
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>>46001431
But isn't Sorin as an oldwalker significantly stronger than the other oath keepers.
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>>45999821
The text originally proposed in R&D was a pithy but throw-away "If there's anything a werewolf hates, it's a collar".

It was later changed a bit to give some exposition, "If there's anything a werewolf hates, it's a collar -- especially Avacyn's Collar, the symbol of her church". This is what was printed. It's so clunkly that most people made fun of it, as in the OP image. In fairness, I had to look at a lot of Innistrad to put 2 and 2 together that the mostly-meaningless symbol was called a "collar". Someone less invested would just read the text as originally proposed and say, "huh, that makes no sense." They needed something to link the image and the name to make other references work, so this card got the shitty flavor text necessary to make that happen.
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>>45998931
Who cares? No one gives a fuck about Sorin.
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>>46001750
>who is Chandere
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>>46001686
The old-walkers aren't god-like in power anymore. They can't create realms out of nothing or go without sustenance or travel in any form they wish, or even live forever. That's why the remaining old-walkers we know about are 1) an artificial being, 2) a pair of ancient dragons, 3) a functionally-immortal undead, and 4) a woman who dealt with demons to restore her youth
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>>45999603
>his character arc of being tired and apathetic about life
He got over being tired and apathetic eons ago.
He's a full on hedonist now. Why do you think his color is Black?
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>>46001686
>as an oldwalker
Only in that he has more experience and knows more spells an shit because he's been alive for so long. He and the rest of the oldwalkers that are still alive all got significantly downgraded.
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>>46001431
Doubt it. The other Gatewatch 'walkers were the Origin walkers. Those are the five that the main story focus will be on for the foreseeable future. When asked about Garruck, Doug and Mark said that he's basically been downgraded to "antagonist," suggesting Liliana will have more staying power as a protagonist.

Liliana is as likely as any black walker to join the gatewatch. That being said, it's still highly unlikely.
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>>46001857
Maybe the Gatewatch happens to decide to go after contract demon number three?
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>>46001772
a miserable pile of secrets
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>>45999603

>wanting to kill off one of the last good planeswalkers
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>>46001786
And a demon
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>>46001935
>not giving him the death he deserves, saving his plane
>giving WotC more chances to ruin his character
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>>46001935
see >>45999766
Your husbando a shit.
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>>46001883
Maybe, but there has to be some reason for Lili to stick around and actually stay with these people once she has what she wants. Right now the threats are Emrakul, Bolas, demon #3, and the chain veil. We'll have to see which of those actually make her run to the safety of a team AND make the team accept her.

Look at it this way, when you think of the black oath flavor text -- "for _____, I will keep watch" -- what is the black ____?

Power? Not inspiring the team with a lot of confidence there. Vengeance? a bit better. We'll have to wait and see.
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>>46001967
And an Ashiok.

Come on, there's no way that thing is post-mending.
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>>46001975

Rude.
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>>46001967
Ah yes, forgot about him.
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>>46001786
And Nahiri.
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Sorin is a Vampire hes already dead
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>>46001978
"for myself, I will keep watch"
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>>46001997
Yet accurate.
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>>46001978
Nigga Oath of Chandra's was basically "yeah, sure, I'll keep watch, why the fuck not #yolo"
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>>46002004
That bugs me. She's Kor. She should be dust. She must have been in some kind of stasis. I bet Sorin was using her to fuel Avacyn or something.
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>>46002024

Nothing wrong with self interest as a motive. Hell its one of the most powerful up there.
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>>46002049
Which is very red.
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>>46002056
Nah, she's just pissed Sorin didn't show up the first time the Eldrazi broke free
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>>46001978
Black is about looking out for yourself, and taking advantage of a chance when you see it.
Toshiro Umezawa is a black protagonist who did exactly this.

So someone taking an oath because it benefits them makes perfect sense. as another poster said. It wouldn't be a lie to say "For myself"
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>>46002080
She appears to hold an Ancient Grudge
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>>46002056
she locked herself in a hedron cocoon to not age.
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>tfw tibalt and Sorin will never fuck you from both ends.

life really isn't worth living.
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>>46002144
>you will never be a thrall of Ulamog
>you will never team up with Kalitas to mind rape Drana and turn her into your own personal cocksleeve
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>>46002211
>Kalitas
opinion discarded.
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>>46002093
Underbuttered toast
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>>46001686
All walkers got downgraded in power when the mending happened. Walkers that were around pre-mending, 'oldwalkers,' still have roughly the same power as those who only came after the mending. That walkers that survived the mending and are still around are older and more experienced. Sorin would only be as much stronger than them as a regular vamp to a regular human/elf.
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