First for delicious NetChips.

>>45965441
>Try "Why I run", great for prospective Runners looking for a hands-on demo on how Running works (replace the spaces by dots):
>www nagnazul com/whyirun/whyirun.html
Tried it, ran last click on R&D and ran into a snare, died in subsequent explosion. This was not the best idea I've had.

>>45965879
Yeah, even in the game running last click is a terrible idea.

>If you had to choose the future of Netrunner, how bleak would that future be?

On the one hand, I like how the less bleak vision of the future in the Android universe mirrors the sanitized version of what once was the stuff cyberpunk as it exists in the real world right now (I mean, just look at drones and the way they're being treated in mass media when compared with what the US is doing with the tech - basically a tool for state cautioned assassination of innocents based on predictive algorithms. There's a scary discrepancy), on the other, I kinda miss the poetic license of cyberpunk in showing horrors as horrors and not try and mask them behind a presentable anesthetic veneer.

So while I love the setting of A:NR right now, Is sure could use some more gruesomely bleak stuff myself.

>>45931583

Quite late, sorry, but by the time I woke the thread had gone.

Late game tips for servers going too big:

a) As already mentioned by another anon, Ice destruction. Given Parasite is basically 3 influence, Spooned is no generally a better option. Even one can do wonders. Influence is tight.

b) Tinkering. Can be recycled with Same Old thing. Nice in tandem with Spooned.

c) Paintbrush. Basically makes you trade clicks for the ability to break any ICE with your decoder. Certainly, the corp can make servers big enough that you can't click through, but with all the money spent for that, it should mean the defenses of all other servers have been bled dry.

d) I really liked the Paintbrush/Surfer variation but I think it works better with Quetzal.
Thing is, by using surfer, you're trading clicks for money - instead of changing X ICE for X clicks with Paintbrush, you change just one and then pay 2 credits for every remaining ICE to swap around - but thing is, to me at least Kit works at her best with recurring econ to fuel her runs, decoders and the like even if you don't play stealth... the alterations you have to make to that rig to make paintsurf work aren't worth it as far as I'm concerned. That being said I haven't seen a Study Guide/Multithreader rig attempt that. Could work.

I am starting to feel unhappy with my Haarpsichord deck. Any advice on how to build Haaprsichord Rush (gotta make those movies faster than Runners can ruin 'em) deck, or working Haarpsichord deck with Vanity Project?

>>45967183
Hard, very hard, the point of a haarpsichord deck is that the runner can't steal more than 1 agenda per turn. If you already set up for a low density/high value agenda deck you're kind of ruining your own ability and you'd be better of with any other.

That's just my opinion though. I can see why you'd want to set it up so the runner can only steal 1 and only 1 of those high Vanity projects and strike hard after that, but that seems so edge case to me.

I'd go NEH and spam assets to achieve 3 targets:
1.- Get those Punitives soon.
2.- Tax the runner if he starts trashing.
3.- Extra influence for those Vanity Projects.

>>45965441
>If you had to choose the future of Netrunner, how bleak would that future be?
I seems like it's today, but more efficient.

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Can this even compete with Faust?

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>>45968604
Is it just not possible?

>>45968604
I'll probably try a Deva Build out of adam

>>45968666
That sounds interesting, how are you going to support it?

>>45969099
Don't really know for now, waiting for the third deva to be spoiled.
I'll probaly go for classic anarch breakers "just in case".

>>45968604

I'd say no, but I sure want to build it with Reina (too bad her ID ability doesn't work with it though).
If only because the classic move of installing new ICE over Caïssa-hosting ICE now can cost money thanks to Diwan.
Add the fact that you can now Scheherazade all Caîssa and the change in balance makes me want to go back to that board (pun intended).

>>45967183

Sorry not to help, but it's not an ID I've played with/against enough times to be comfortable giving tips about.

>>45965441
Uninteractive.dec (45 cards)
Leela Patel: Trained Pragmatist
-- Event (0 cards)
3 Blackmail
3 Career Fair
3 Corporate Scandal
2 Inside Job
3 Sure Gamble

-- Hardware (0 cards)
2 Box-E
2 e3 Feedback Implants
3 HQ Interface

-- Program (0 cards)
3 Overmind
2 Sneakdoor Beta

-- Resource (0 cards)
3 Bank Job
3 Daily Casts
3 Gang Sign
2 Kati Jones
3 Professional Contacts
2 Spoilers
3 Zona Sul Shipping

So, this is my idea for a Corporate Scandal Leela deck. I was trying to squeeze Aesop's in there originally, but lack of draw is killer and I can't get mileage out of my installs like Noise or Hayley, so I went for ProCo. Thoughts?

>>45970261

No Same Old Thing?

I understand there's more moving parts to it, but given ProCo and Daily Casts are the only cards with which you'll use Career Fair, why not The Supplier (from which more cards benefit - more you can install without money in the bank - and on which you can offload cards if you're over grip size), Symmetrical Visage, Gene Condition Shop?

And with the influence/cards slots freed, maybe some burst draw if you feel like you need it?

One question I guess is how often to do you expect to click more than twice a turn with proco.

Must my inner jank demon talking...

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>>45970261
Thoughts I can give you, advice? I'm not so sure. I haven't seen or even thought of something like it.

I like to give Leela derez effects because that enable her ability. In your case it's even more important because you can pressure much more with Blackmail. And in that line, no SOT?

More, I don't like how Sneakdoor Beta clashes with Overmind. But don't know what to do about it.

I like Grappling Hook with E3, specially with something like Overmind.

Am I th only one weirded out by the fact that EMP Devices costs 4 influence when DDOS only costs three?

Is a rush deck more possible (in Weyland) now that Mumbad Construction Co. is out? I want to believe, but it's trash cost is so low that I think it'd get trashed super quickly. About how long do you think a Corp player can expect it to survive?

>>45970823
>>45970843
Ah, I knew I was forgetting something. SOT will be good. Overmind's more for a backup plan in case I can't just Blackmail my way in anymore for whatever reason. Is going Gene Con + Babyface better than just having ProCo? I agree, I'll likely use it twice a turn at most. Supplier's a bit slow for my liking, given how slow this deck already is. I like Grappling Hook, but I suppose I'll need more MU?

>>45975543
I just reread Mumbad Construction Co; it only applies to face up cards. RIP

Identity
Valencia Estevez: The Angel of Cayambe (Order and Chaos)

Event (8)
3x Sure Gamble (Core Set)
2x Itinerant Protesters (Order and Chaos)
3x Surge (Humanity's Shadow)

Hardware (8)
2x Grimoire (Core Set)
2x HQ Interface (Humanity's Shadow) •• ••
2x MemStrips (Order and Chaos)
2x Plascrete Carapace (What Lies Ahead)

Icebreaker (4)
1x Darwin (Future Proof)
2x Corroder (Core Set)
1x Yog.0 (Core Set)

Program (15)
3x Progenitor (Order and Chaos)
2x Datasucker (Core Set)
3x Parasite (Core Set)
2x Chakana (Creation and Control) •• ••
3x Hivemind (Order and Chaos)
2x Djinn (Core Set)

Resource (23)
3x Virus Breeding Ground (Order and Chaos)
2x Adjusted Chronotype (The Valley)
3x Investigative Journalism (Order and Chaos)
2x Ice Carver (Core Set)
3x Raymond Flint (Mala Tempora)
3x Fester (Up and Over)
2x Data Folding (Order and Chaos)
2x Wyldside (Core Set)
3x Daily Casts (Creation and Control)
Total Cards: 58
Total Influence: 8 / 15

Trying to polish this up. The Idea is being able to slap a few bad pubs to help econ and reduce corp hand size, juggle virus counters to weaken ICE for cheaper runs, Flint as safe HQ access. Wyldside and pancakes to speed card draws.
Maybe I'm trying to bite more than I can chew. Ideas and/or suggestions?

>>45975543

Rush or FA?

I already stated in previous thread why I didn't like the card.

I don't think it works well for rush. If I'm rushing, chances are I want the benefits of advancing those public agendas. And I can't afford to wait for that Casting Call/Agenda/Mumbad Construction combo for "private" agendas. Three cards is way beyond what I find is comfortable for rush (and that's before mentioning Dedication Ceremony).

Now, to be less negative:

New Construction happens to be an exception in that, you're unlikely to have 5 cards in HQ you can and want to install when scoring it, so skipping on a couple advance effects to FA it and even maybe reach the free rez to make it all worthwhile from an econ standpoint (rez The Root) might be a thing. Still, *very* specialized.

You might also use it to score a game closing agenda whose effect don't really matter to you anymore. And that's something Weyland has wanting for a while.

As for survival, I think with an Asset spam Gagarin you *can* realistically aim for a couple of turns; especially since you can install it in what would be your scoring server.

With Election Day as an in faction way to to fasten the deck, might have something.

>>45975904

One thing I like about The Supplier really is the ability to offload cards on it for later use after some big draw. And then install as I need them later on. I like, that you don't *have* to install cards left on it.

>>45976066

Surge *and* Virus Breeding Grounds seems like overkill to me. Three Hiveminds also. It's unique, belongs to the only card type you can tutor in faction, and you have Déjà Vu to get viruses from the heap at a good cost.

Since you still have influence, Career Fair looks like it might help too (installs around 10 cards of your deck's three costed card for free, you're *very* low in install econ, and you have the draw to cope).

I'll recommend Imp+Tallie Perrault for Anarch Russian Roulette, just *don't* listen to me on that one.

Don't know about Datasucker when you can just Hivemind up your parasites up to destroy ICE.

This deck looks like a hybrid of the "glory run" deck and a Bad Pub build, and I'm really surprised at no multi-access virus (Medium and Nerve Agent - though I understand wanting to swap the later with HQI for memory reasons). Also I'm not convinced the hybridization plays well on each decks strengths.

I don't know.

Kitsune installed on remote fires.

Runners survives whatever was accessed, has an HQI installed. Does the runner gets to access an additional card from HQ?

>>45977352
Yeah, this is an untested rough first draft, and I did feel like it's trying to go in two different directions at the same time, still, I'd just like to polish it a bit, remove bloat and give it a few runs.
Thanks for the input anon, especially the bit about install econ, gonna give that some thought.

>>45976107
I think I have a fundamental misunderstanding of what "rush" actually means; I think what I meant was using Mumbad Construction Co. in such a way that I could score an agenda every turn after the first score. I guess that would mean I meant FA.

What does rush actually entail? I'm missing the key difference.

>>45973431
DDoS and Inside Job only goes 2 deep, EMP and IJ goes any number of ICE deep and DDoS is higher install.

>>45965441

I think with a setting like this you really need to have some bad, some good. Like, in Netrunner they have pretty much unlimited clean power thanks to Weyland, Jinteki is bringing back extinct species (they resurrected the Polar Bear, Museum of History lied), prosthetics are incredibly advanced, so on and so forth. There's a lot going right in the world. Of course, there's also a lot of incredibly heinous shit in the background, but that's something that your average person is completely unaware of--kind of like with Nike sweatshops or the like. If I had to move the plot forward... I think that I would have some kind of disaster focused on the Beanstalk, that forced them to let go of it at the Root. It can still be recovered (the world book talks about the workings of the Beanstalk a lot), but there is a hell of a lot of tension about what this means for New Angeles and the world as a whole. from here you can return to the status quo if you want, or have the Beanstalk root down somewhere else completely.

>>45977505
>If the Runner accesses a card from the subroutine on Kitsune resolving, the additional access from HQ Interface is at random.

>>45978612
Rush means installing and scoring as many agenda's in early game behind cheap binary ice before Runner has chance to built their rig.

>>45978688

But then DDOS effect works on all servers for a full turn. EMP works for one run.

>>45981855

Weird didn't find any mention in FAQ.

>>45978612

FA entails scoring agendas from HQ on the very turn they are installed.

Rush entails scoring agenda as fast as possible in the early game when the runner isn't set up - trying to outpace the runner (>>45981863 is right about the usefulness of cheap binary ICE in that situation, but I don't think there's any tool that's mandatory for a rush deck to be one).

>>45982308
Why would there be? Just like with Gang Signs, an HQ access is an HQ access, and the card responds with additional HQ accesses.
You can also use The Turning Wheel for Kitsune, since it's still during a run.

It's a shame that this archetype of accessing the whole HQ with multiacces out of a run will disappear with rotation (I know, still 2 cycles away, anything can happen).

(45 cards)
Leela Patel: Trained Pragmatist

-- Event (0 cards)
3 Blackmail
3 Career Fair
3 Corporate Scandal
1 Déjà Vu
3 Sure Gamble

-- Hardware (0 cards)
2 Box-E
3 HQ Interface
3 Silencer

-- Program (0 cards)
3 Cloak
1 Corroder
1 Refractor
1 Sneakdoor Beta
1 Switchblade

-- Resource (0 cards)
3 Daily Casts
3 Earthrise Hotel
3 Gang Sign
3 Ghost Runner
2 Kati Jones
3 Same Old Thing

I retweaked my deck to use a Stealth rig as the slow buildup while I pressure with Gang Signs and Blackmail. I think I need more econ, though. Any recommendations?

Palana (49 cards)
Pālanā Foods: Sustainable Growth

-- Agenda (0 cards)
1 Chronos Project
2 Corporate Sales Team
2 Fetal AI
3 House of Knives
1 Philotic Entanglement
2 The Future Perfect

-- Asset (0 cards)
2 Genetics Pavilion
2 Psychic Field
2 Snare!

-- ICE (0 cards)
3 Architect
3 Eli 1.0
3 Harvester
2 Komainu
1 Lotus Field
3 Rainbow
1 Swordsman
1 Tsurugi

-- Operation (0 cards)
3 Celebrity Gift
3 Hedge Fund
2 Interns

-- Upgrade (0 cards)
3 Caprice Nisei
1 Cyberdex Virus Suite
3 Self-destruct

My attempt at a pseudo Palana Control. The idea is to either go for a glacial win with Caprice, or to bait a Faust deck into overextending so I can kill with Self-Destruct. Any criticisms? Original idea was Biotech with Ronins instead of Pavilion, but the econ felt really bad, so I went with Palana instead.

>>45984215
Shit, forgot my Jacksons. I knew I was forgetting something.

-1 Architect
-1 Caprice Nisei
-1 Psychic Field
-1 Interns
+3 Jackson Howard
+1 Tsurugi

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>>45983791
If you feel you need more econ adding a couple bank jobs will help a lot, or maybe a couple Account Siphon, just for the pressure. I like the switch to stealth.
What are you using to deckbuild?

>>45984215
I always liked the Honor and Profit idea of trashing the whole hand via net damage (Psychic Field, Komainu), it makes playing with a big grip pretty dangerous, which was often seen as "safe" against Jinteki. It gets even better now in Palana because it forces the runner to draw cards, which Palana can then trash. It's a great new way to pressure the runner.

What I'm trying to say is that you don't play that way, you try to minimize the amount of draw from the Runner, except for Harvester, which I think goes against what Palana is about. Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture.

Couple things though, I love the idea of using Self-Destruct to flatline Faust players. It doesn't have a synergy with Psychic Field though, so I guess PF is just a red herring here?
Chairman Hiro+Self Destruct in a server with Harvester. Jank? Yes. Tempting? Yes!

>>45984215
Genetics Pavilion neuters the fuck out of your Harvesters. It basically eliminates the second subroutine and cuts the power of the first by a third, assuming the runner hasn't already drawn that turn.

>>45984496
>except for Harvester, which I think goes against what Palana is about.
Sorry, I want to point that I'm talking about Genetics Pavilion, forgot to mention it somehow. Harvester totally goes with Palana idea of forced draw.

>>45984496
I'm using a phone app, which after some update started displaying all the categories as 0 cards.

I could cut the Sneakdoor (it's really just a contingency that hopefully I won't need) and one Earthrise for a Bank Job, I guess. That's probably a good idea.

I figured that for Palana, controlling the draw with Genetics Pavilion is decent since they can't get the benefits of digging through their deck in one turn to avoid giving me more procs off my ability, but I somehow managed to completely miss the anti-synergy with Harvesters as >>45984554 says, so I'm gonna change the Pavilions out for something else. Maybe even good ol' Chairman, as you say... 1 Chairman and 1 Tech Startup to find him? Or I could go for 2 Agroplexes instead, but I'm quite concerned about my own ability to handle the extra draw.

>>45984622
Disposable HQ could help with the Agroplex overdraw, or Museum of History if you feel like taking your decksize up to 54.

>>45984656
Disposable doesn't really help the overdraw, since I'll have to discard anyway. I'd rather not go up to 54 cards, I've been playing bloated decks too much recently so I'd rather go back to a normal size. I'll test out 2 Agroplex this Tuesday and get back to you guys on how it runs. I'm actually quite curious as to its effects. It's a very plain and straightforward card, but the implications could be quite interesting.

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Alright then, here's my new GRNDL deck, it started as Argus and it's very likely that I get back to it, but nobody is playing GRNDL in my meta right now, so I want to play something fancy.

I'm relying on Posted Bounty for the Scorched Kill while Batty trashes their fracters.
I had 2 Casting Call when it was Argus, and I'm still tempted to swap those Data Raven for them. I dreamed with Casting Call a Posted Bounty when they can't get in to see their "Oh Fuck" face.

Identity
GRNDL: Power Unleashed (Fear and Loathing)

Agenda (12)
3x Hostile Takeover (Core Set)
2x Posted Bounty (Core Set)
3x Project Atlas (What Lies Ahead)
3x Geothermal Fracking (Opening Moves)
1x The Cleaners (Second Thoughts)

Asset (5)
3x GRNDL Refinery (Fear and Loathing)
2x Contract Killer (The Underway)

ICE (16)
2x Data Raven (Core Set) •• ••
2x Archer (Core Set)
2x Ice Wall (Core Set)
2x Shadow (Core Set)
2x Checkpoint (Order and Chaos)
1x Wormhole (Order and Chaos)
2x Negotiator (The Valley)
3x Spiderweb (The Underway)

Operation (14)
2x Interns (Mala Tempora)
2x Subliminal Messaging (Fear and Loathing)
3x Beanstalk Royalties (Core Set)
3x Scorched Earth (Core Set)
2x Housekeeping (Order and Chaos)
2x Patch (Order and Chaos)

Upgrade (2)
2x Marcus Batty (The Underway) ••• •••

Total Cards: 49
Total Influence: 10 / 10
http://www.acoo.net

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What are the most interesting decks you've seen in a deckbuilding site/friend/whatevs that make you want to scrap your current deck and play that instead?

In my case, that Pitchfork Hayley looked really interesting, but Geist with Tech Traders looks more fun.
http://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/33004/geist-3rd-place-at-blackstone-owl-sc-baldwin-park-ca

And Corp side, Jinteki IG: Archive the Impossible
http://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/32993/archive-the-impossible

>>45984897
If your only tagging is on ICE and from PB, you're probably going to have a bad time.

>>45987295
A friend of mind is tinkering with a Sage-osaurus build, supported with GS Shrike M2, Data Folding and Underworld Contract. Really powerful but still a bit slow to setup IMO.

>>45988014
Obviously meant for >>45986659

>>45987295
I don't think I can outpace Runner's economy right now.

>>45965441
Hey, /tg/, I'm thinking about getting into Netrunner. I've been spectating a lot of games on Jinteki and I've been reading blog posts, forum discussions, and articles about it.

I love the flavour, but the impression I'm getting so far is that the meta is almost the entire game, and that decks are structured mostly in response to other top-tier decks in a sort of complicated rock-paper-scissors setup. It seems like if you're not carrying the counter to your opponent's strategy, you lose. Is there room for casual play in this? Is there much point to playing repeated games with the same decks?

>>45990036
If you start playing you realize that the "meta" people talk about is just the competitive meta. It makes little sense to discuss deckbuilding about a local meta because it only affects you.
There are certainly counters but they are not needed to win matches, like, at all. You're better off playing smart than packing a silver bullet, which makes this game very intensive skill-wise.
Same goes for your other question, since the game relies a lot in the skill of the players, playing the same decks against each other will only get better while both player learn how to outmatch the other. Like a chess game with cyberpunk undertones.

>>45990580
I guess so, but a lot of the cards I've been seeing around seem like specific counters to me. Is there much room to use suboptimal decks in places like Jinteki? I'm not ready yet to invest in a physical set of cards for local play.

>>45990999
The second place winner in the last Worlds tournament did a whole bunch of interviews about how his decks weren't based on any meta bullshit at all and contained no blatant counters.

The only reason meta exists in any card game is that card game geeks are so beta they're not willing to do anything themselves.

Add that to the fact that Netrunner is probably the most pilot-reliant (meaning superior player trumps superior deck) card game of all time thanks to the many different strategies and high reliance on bluffing elements, and Netrunner is basically THE game you wanna go for to actually avoid metashit.

>>45992877
That's exactly the kind of reassurance I wanted to hear, thanks.

>The only reason meta exists in any card game is that card game geeks are so beta they're not willing to do anything themselves.

There's always a set of optimal strategies. Thanks though, I'll look into it some more.

>>45992877
There are some cards that will show up virtually everywhere, and you'll usually build something to mitigate the risk.

I've also thought of metas as adaptive strategies, a specialized deck will have one strong suit and be a killer at a single thing but will be vulnerable to hard counters, while a flexible deck might not be as strong but will perform reasonably well against different archetypes/builds

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>>45989739
G H O S T B R A N C H

>>45993111
The real meta you want to care about is the people you actually play with. Unless you're going to play at tourney levels, you won't have to care much about competitive metas.

Well, that was a pretty nice day playing with a couple of completely casual friends. Had to retrofit my decks a bit (Cybernetics Division sported three each of Project Wotan, Sentinel Defense Program, and Self Destruct Chip for one). Made for some really nice games.

If I have to use them as a metric of what people consider "kitchen table casual", well they have all the cards released, but don't even know about the MWL. Nor care.

>>45982881

I think it's just the specific wording that kinda throws me off when I translate it.

>>45986659

Friend I was playing with today used some old cards and managed to set up a Komainu/Cell Portal server with a Labyrinthine scored. Swapping decks with him really made me want to play that stuff again. Been too long.

>>45993111

One thing I'd love some people to consider more often about the state of any meta is that just because one possible point of equilibrium has been reached doesn't mean there aren't others.

>>45996279

I like the image.
Poor Exile has some credibility problems though.

For a change.

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>>45998282
He makes for some great playmats, but I wonder if Nasir is being underplayed in that regard.

>>46000055

How can one not love to play Nasir?

So is there any Elizabeth Mills 34 yet or what?

/r/ing the "Play Andromeda" meme

>>46000850

She's too pure. Married to destruction and mayhem.

>>46000981
>You take Chad's Girth
>She plot's Scorched Earth

>>46000981
I would accept a picture of her masturbating to the sight of a fuel-air explosion in the downtown core.

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>>46000911

Found it in Archives.

>>46001506
Chur senpai pretty pleased with that tbqhwyf

>>46001506
Oh how the times have changed.

>>46002661

Cracks me up really.

>>46004724
Heritage committee is awesome with Mutate, even better than Precog.

>>46006045
Is Heritage Committee good for anything else though?

>>46006451
It's the only card in the game that lets you put a card from HQ on top of R&D for the Runner to access.

Or am I forgetting one?

>>46006550
Nope, pretty much the only one.

>>45993939
Ghost Branch? Well, I guess I could cut Data Ravens for Ghost Branch and then add maybe Back Channels.

>>46007607
Ghost Branch + Back Channels would certainly help feed into the 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' atmosphere that you can create if you play Midseasons Replacemets.

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>>46006451
You can put a snare on the top of R&D to keep the runner from running it for a turn.

I suppose you might be able to do something with Accelerated Diagnostics/Beta Test, but that's going deep, deep into jank

Precog + AOYCR remains one of my favorite recent move.

>>46010401
It's great.
I mostly use AOYCR only when I have 2 Space Camps in the Archives or I want to install something off Crick.
>Install
>AOYCR
>Advance

>>46009928
This is /tg/, we do jank here.

>>46009928

Why not? In CI you end up with so many cards in HQ that could totally work as a way to set up a big following turn.

Talk about compression and all that.

does Levy University have a mascot? If not, what would it be?

>>46014165
Some kind of shark since they flavor insert was cheering for Sharks' Baseball Team

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>>46015779
Would ya look at that, the dude on the left even has a shark on his jersey. Do you the team they're referring to is a college team or a big-league team?

>>46016094
Well, the entire pack is about UC-Breaker Bay and features a bunch of other college-themed cards. It would be reasonable.

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>>46015779
>>46016094
That's the University of the Californias at Breaker Bay, which apparently "regularly competes with Levy University and NeoTokyo Daigaku for the top spot in the NBN Best College and University Rankings."

There's also Chaterjee University and from the background of ProCo a University of New Ecuador

>>46014165
Goose sitting on a beanstalk.
New Angeles sport team should be New Angeles's Stalks.

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>>46017313
Giants would make sense, what with it being the Beanstalk

>>46017529
•Giant
7c, 4 str
Weyland
Barrier - Sentry - Mythic

->Trash an installed connection. If the Runner has no connections, deal 2 meat damage.
->Do 3 meat damage.
->Trace 4. If the trace is successful, you may swap Giant with any ice protecting the same server.

"I smell the blood of runner scum."

>>46017529

Anyone actually EVER played that card?

>>46020191
In drafts it's pretty decent.

>>46020191
It makes little sense to me. You pay X, then you can look and then you may send the top card of your stack to the bottom of your stack. You can do this X times.

It's like an inefficient Mr. Li.
I think best case scenarios include comboing it with Oracle May and Eureka, but still Rolodex and Motivation probably do a better job, and the damn card can get pretty expensive.

>>46022225
And the worst thing is is that if you lower the cost by say The Supplier you get no extra benefit.

>>46022287
It would be so fitting to make a Career Fair at the Angel Arena, but nooo.

>>46022154

I guess so.
The big thing for me is, and maybe it's just me, but I don't see what that card does that really would make you want to build with/for it.
I mean, talking about it right now makes me want to do just that for the heck of it. But that would be the sole reason.

>still Rolodex and Motivation probably do a better job

Or even Paige Piper as a way to filter cards off. Every faction has a non-strict equivalent that is cheaper and arguably situationally better.
Maybe for mini-factions?

>and the damn card can get pretty expensive.

That's the thing that really kills it for me, yeah.

>>46022607
I actually like Paige Piper a lot. It's just that she's kind of useless with Faust running rampant.

>>46022716

So do I. I guess when decks with strict economy-fueled runs are coming back, she might be a go to solution to filter decks.

>>46022787
About that, in the early days of SanSan I used to target cards that Paige already trashed, often leaving the runner without Wyldsides with Elizabeth Mills for instance. It filters your deck, but also leaves you open without copies.

>>46023069

But then it makes finding your recursion tools faster too. Among others.

All in all, on average, I still think it can be worth it.