ITT: Cards that should be unbanned and in which formats.
Unban:Tolarian Academy in legacy.
Ban: Divining Top.
Shameless self bump
Unban: Splinter Twin, Summer Bloom in Modern
Ban: Nothing. Eldrazi vs. Primeval Titan let's go. Plus we get back our sweet 2015 meta.
>>45804364
and glimpse of nature
Modern:
Ban Eye of Ugin and Mox Opal
Unban Ancestral Vision, Birthing Pod, Bloodbraid Elf, Preordain, Splinter Twin, Stoneforge Mystic, Sword of the Meek. Let's fuck shit up and make modern interesting again.
>Modern
Unban everything >>45805421 listed plus JtMS, Treasure Cruise, Ponder, Summer Bloom, DRS, Mental Misstep, Jitte and Skullclamp.
When everything is OP, nothing is.
Pauper: Unban Empty the Warrens
I get that storm was too powerful, but Grapeshot was the main offender.
>>45803752
Unban mind's desire, frantic search
Ban: Top, Natural order
EDH
Unban: >Coalition Victory. I really feel that the conditions required to set it up are a lot harder than some of the cheesy win-cons in the format (like 10 infect counters, despite the higher life-totals of the format).
Ban:
>Iona, for fucks sake this is such a dick card.
>Umezawa's Jitte because fuck Umezawa's Jitte
>>45808184
Ban Iona and Grindstone, unban Painter's Servant. There are a lot of interesting interactions with him that aren't as abusive as those, and Iona is a bitch even without him.
Modern
Ban:
Eldrazi Temple
Eldrazi Mimic
Unban:
Summer Bloom
Ancestral Vision
Preordain
Legacy
Ban Counterbalance
ITT: Storm players bitch about miracles
>wanting to ban miracles
Stay delver, peasant
>>45804364
I agree, mostly because i just found 6 summer bloom and a splinter twin in a box.
>>45803752
Unban Sundering titan, recurring nightmare, and braids
>>45812877
in edh
Edh
Unban -Griselbrand
Ban - seedborn muse, iona
>Legacy
Unban:
Goblin Recruiter
Ban:
Nothing
>Modern
Unban:
Nothing
Ban:
The format
>>45812501
OP here
I don't play storm and I despise miracles. Its the deck that doesn't allow other people to have fun and play whatever decks they want.
>>45813417
The problem with SDT is that it makes the matches much longer and more boring than they have to be. No one should be allowed to keep rearranging their libraries every two seconds.
>>45814078
Miracles is the gayest archetype that there's ever been, by the way. Even extremely boring shit like old Stasis decks were more dignified.
>>45813417
>Its the deck that doesn't allow other people to have fun and play whatever decks they want.
But anon all it does is interact with you to win so it is the best kind of deck.
Git gut
:^3
>>45805511
yeah you can just Elecktrickery the goblins can't you
>>45814817
Not when almost every deck has to either plan against you or lose.
>>45814135
Miracles was way better back when it was CounterTop. Rho War Monk, Goyf or NO into Progenitus were actually semi-respectable win conditions and board control in the former two cases. Now it's just oh, I wrath your board at instant speed for 1 mana.
Want to find the Miracles player in the room? Just look for the one in an ironic t-shirt that thinks he's the best player in the room.
Also, OP, unbanning Tolarian Academy? Ugh. no thanks. That shit is truly, legitimiately, insanely broken. Just try playing with it for a while. It's so dumb.
>>45811183
Well, I do like Painter's Servant a lot. It's just that infinite mill combo that I do agree is too cheesy to allow.
>>45812501
I primarily play storm and I'd be pissed off if they ban miracles.
>>45803752
Unban: Everything.
Ban: nothing
In every format. Don't be a pussy, play with ante.
>>45815338
> Guy at my scene
> Plays Abzan
> Pony playmat
> Into the whole transgender thing
> Was talking about building a Miracle deck to get into Modern
...Yup. You are absolutely correct.
>>45812501
>>45815670
>I primarily play storm and I'd be pissed off if they ban miracles.
Me too, familia.
>>45813225
Modern should be gutted imo legacy is just better
>>45815338
>Now it's just oh, I wrath your board at instant speed for 1 mana.
The worst offender. Which apparently wasn't good enough and they still got Supreme Verdict.
>>45814135
>>45814078
>>45812440
>>45805582
>Waaa Help me i don't know how to cast abrupt decay or not overextend!!!
>>45805511
Even after all the bans storm decks were using temporal fissure as a win con, storm has way too many enablers at common.
>>45817555
All of the temporal fissure decks used cloud of faeries and were usually just improved familiar decks; CoF had to be banned anyway so I don't think it is necessarily right to call fissure the bad guy there.
>>45812501
Miracles is a good matchup for storm. Its a bad matchup for bad players.
>>45803752
LGC
Ban: Sensei's Divining Top
Unban: Dig Through Time
Modern
Ban: Eye of Ugin, Deceiver Exarch
Unban: JTMS, Stoneforge Mystic, Ponder, Splinter Twin, Punishing Fire, Dark Depths
>>45803752
Modern: Ban Eye of Ugin and Lightning Bolt, unban Ancestral Vision
>>45812583
they could have just Errata'd it as "(1) - Sac this - destroy target permanent" and sure it would be pretty strong, but fuck it.
>>45812983
-seedborn muse is fine
-grisebrand is retardedly strong in an eternal format that encourages high CMC cards
-Iona creates a lot of feel bads, and it hits the table like a ton of bricks, but it CAN be dealt with. I hate seeing it though with my Temur deck. Only response i ever have for it is counter it or float mana for instant speed answers.
Unban all cards in all formats, with only 24 hrs notice, right before a major tournament. Eliminate 4-card limit on deck construction as well. Allow silver-bordered cards. Ban sleeves and provide an open bar.
Last nerd standing gets to take over as CEO of Wizards.
Legacy: everything on the Reserved List
Modern: Urza's lands, Glistener Elf, Worship
Standard: Ulamog and Kozilek
>>45825080
But then he will be the leader of a pile of rubble.
>>45812583
That one's banned for a good reason, though. Nobody wants to have to spread all their cards out in the stupidest, most inefficient way possible just to avoid Chaos Orb wiping out multiple cards at once. I do like the solution >>45824203 suggested, though.
>>45826522
>>45812583
>>45824203
It should be flip a coin to destroy a permanent, with the option to continue flipping.
>>45826591
Obviously, to continue flipping on a success. To simulate the chance of hitting multiple cards.
>>45803752
Ban: All cards on the Reserved list in Legacy/EDH.
Unban: Pod in Modern, maybe a couple other things on the modern list, Cataclysm in French, completely reexamine EDH banlist.
>>45803752
>Pauper
Unban: Cloudpost
Ban: Glimmerpost
>>45827242
>Dat pauper butthurt
Just play pauper man. Or ask the government to give you food stamps that you can exchange for cards.
>>45815950
>every deck packs Abrupt Decay
>mainboard even
>also 8 copies of it
>just in case they can do something with either CB or Top alone
>what is Blood Moon?
This is what Miracle players actually believe.
>>45803752
Legacy: unban mind's desire, earthcraft.
Modern: unban everything-legacy ban list+ban cloudpost (might need to ban Past in flames too)
Pauper: unban empty the warrens and temporal fissure.
>>45828006
I'm not against the reserved list because I can't afford cards on it. I'm against it on principle.
>all these people literally asspained after being tentacle raped in Modern
>>45832470
>mfw i play ad nauseam
delicious eldrazi tears
>>45832522
>Ad Nauseam
topkek
>>45826320
Just like the one before him.
ban: anyone who started playing mtg after 2003
>>45826620
>>45826591
Fuck that revisionist bullshit
Legacy unban black vice
Modern unban DRS JTMS sword of the meek preordain splintertwin and dig through time
Ban eye of ugin deciever exarch and all 10 fetches
Legacy:
>Ban Reserved List cards, or make Eternal a supported format
Modern:
>Ban 8ED, 9ED, Eye of Ugin, Mox Opal
>Unban BBE, Pod, Twin, AV, Sword, JTMS
>>45828948
Just play goblins and beat miracles 9 times out of 10
>>45834400
Black vice isn't banned
>>45834633
Just play goblins or storm or death and taxes or MUD or nic fit or jund or lands or maverick to have a good miracles matchup
>>45834648
wait so what the fuck does miracles beat lmao
>>45834892
Tier 1 decks.
>>45834892
Miracles is one of the best decks to adapt in the format. It's main deck is solid against most of the field and the sideboard can give you the advantage needed to win in any match you need help in. Legacy is like that for most decks, except goblins, goblins aren't allowed to win
>>45836551
except for lands, which miracles can literally not beat
>>45836572
Shhhhhh repressed memories. I try to pretend the deck doesn't exist becuase I can't beat it, and so little people play it becuase it's probably the most expensive commonish legacy deck
>>45803752
ban all planeswalkers that turn into indestructible creatures in all formats.
>>45836637
Fuck you Gideon is my husbando and I'm not even gay
>>45836615
i dont even play your format but honestly every time i see someone playing lands i feel joyous warmth and compassion
i watched a stream where a lands player went turn 1 crop rotation, something that lets him play another land somehow, wasteland life from the loam to get 2 or 3 lands back to his hand or something like that? opponent was on delver, just scooped em up after that first volcanic died with all the lands back in opponent's hand
>>45836654
gideon is a fine character but fuck that stupid fucking mechanic.
>>45834400
>>45834637
it's black vise you fucking niggers
