>that guy who refuses to play the same class as someone else in the party
>that guy who refuses to play the same class as someone else, but also refuses to play unless there's at least one of each archetype in the party.
>>45719647
That is a problem because..?
>>45720332
It's not until that guy bitches and moans that he 'only wants to play X'
What's wrong with wanting to retain variety? Although it does depend on the system, and how focused its classes are.
In D&D, especially 4e, having a good balance is important, although in 4e's favour it does give you a huge variety of ways to fill each role (ignoring the 'They all play the same' bullshit)
On the other hand, a system like Legends of the Wulin, with its broad archetypes, makes playing a game with a single 'class' party a non-issue. A group of Warriors, Courtiers, Priests, Doctors or Scholars can have interesting synergy, giving up the flexibility for a greater focus on a certain kind of effect.
>>45719647
>using a system with classes
>>45720332
It might be a problem if they make a fuss over another player wanting to play the class they're already playing, but other than that it sounds like not much of a problem.
>>45719647
Did you call me?
>>45719647
>>45720317
>>45720332
>>45720342
Back in the day, every party had a dozen fighting men, because magic users and hobbits were for pussies, and we liked it that way!
>>45720341
Tell him "first come, first served."
And if he doesn't like it, kick himin the balls
Yeah, he's not wrong in doing that. Last game something similar happened and we ended up with 2 wizards, a bard, and 2 sorcerers. They died at level 2 due to running out of spell slots from a earlier encounter and finding a single weakened wight in a adjacent building.
>>45720422
>has to invent a story to damage control his shitty snowflake behavior
>>45720422
>Not allowing the spell-slotless party to combine their powers in desperation so the Bard can sing a scorching solo backed by their magical might to save the day by manifesting instruments of raw mana so they can nuke the foe and then run screaming to recover and learn from the near-defeat
sounds like another creatively dead stillborn game
You usually tell each other what class you are going to play?
In my group we always keep class/race secret until people find out, is rather fun.
>>45721036
>In my group we always keep class/race secret until people find out, is rather fun.
I can see this being fun if you play a lot of one-shots or shorter campaigns, but if we're going to be settling down for the long haul I want to make sure there's synergy within the group.
>>45720437
>You should let your players win all the time so they're never in danger.
>>45720437
This sounds terrible.
>still playing a class-based system in Current Year
Yeah, pretty sure you deserve your head twisted off by a Terminator knockoff
>>45721471
>not playing class based systems because you aren't smart enough
Yeah, pretty sure you deserve everything that has happened to you in real life.
>>45719647
There is a legitimate point to spreading out roles, so as to not make people feel overshadowed or that they have to compete with another player.
Obviously this is not always gonna be the case, but as a DM i always try to be mindful of stuff like that because i want everyone to have a good time.
>>45720422
And they didn't come up with an insane, barely feasible, scooby-doo-esque plan to kill or incapacitate it using the surrounding terrain?
>>45721454
but its EPIC AND METAL
>>45719647
That's a problem? Keeping a party varied is both fun and smart. Case in point: I like playing fighters. Say what you will, but I enjoy being a marital tactician that has the background to justify planning and supplying a force from the size of an adventuring party, to a whole army if need be. A real professional. Its why I've always said that a fighter that dumps intelligence shouldn't live past level 2, if he's lucky.
Party has a Fighter already? Dammit. Fine. I'll play something else, but I am /not/ being the Cleric AGAIN.
And now we have Pathfinder with it's Archetypes and 5e with it's class paths, and I am content. Already have a fighter, but she's going Eldrich Knight? Awesome, I wanted to play a Basttlemaster. We good? Perfect.
Sure I'll change things up, the only things I genuinely dislike playing are full casters, but I can role with pretty much anything.
>>45724721
This desu senpai. I personally love fitting whatever tactical niche the party lacks. I'll always ask or look for whats not being g supplied by someone else yet, be it a skill monkey or a support or a tank or w/e.
>>45719647
In shadowrun we had one player that wanted to be a dedicated sniper and stealth expert. The social expert player complained because he wanted to have a sniper rifle too. No one denied him having a sniper rifle but he would not have one unless no one else did. We resolved it by telling him to shut up or don't play. Did not hear anymore about it.
>>45719647
I'm having to deal with this problem right now. New guy that joined my game made a ranger, and the group's old ranger now wants to change his classe. I told him that it's ok because the new ranger is a pirate and a crossbow specialist, while the old ranger is more of a tribal hunter, but he's saying he doesn't like to play repeated classes. I don't care about having the repeated classes on the group, but apparently some people do. I'm about to tell the old ranger to change his class if he wants, but I really don't see the problem here.
>>45720437
>Let's just make even more shit up in an already make-believe game.
Is this what you do everytime your players make bad decisions?
>Why even roll dice?
>>45721637
>being shoehorned into one role for your entire existence
>this is smarter than learning new things and evolving beyond what you began doing
>GM invites you to a high level pathfinder game
>Tells you they need a martial
>Tells you to optimize
>Go tripper barbarian
>Ask him for magic items
>He tells you don't worry, I'll handle that
>Day of the game
>"In this world there aren't magic items...CR will be like if you had magic items, Lol!"
All but 1 feat wasted, thanks obama
>>45719647
I guess I'm kinda guilty of this. I like to have a well rounded group, and so I let everyone else pick first then I decide.
>>45719647
Me, I don't like to step on others neither like when others step on me, unless the same class can cover completely different fields I'll try to not be of the same class as others in my group.
>>45724721
>marital tactician
Fucking mormons.
>that guy who tries to tell the other players what classes they should play
>>45724721
>Its why I've always said that a fighter that dumps intelligence shouldn't live past level 2, if he's lucky.
He has to dump something though, it's either Int or Cha, and my GM hates when you dump Cha, but has no problem when you dump Str, odd.
>>45725687
>that guy who gets mad when you tell him he shouldn't play a monk with full plate and greatsword
>that same guy who after playing the monk with full plate and greatsword gets mad when you didn't tell him not to play it hard enough
>>45721413
>you should kill all your players for choosing the classes that sounded fun but were left helpless by d&d's awful spell system
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