I hope if Deathwatch ends up with actual rules, they'll be more customizable. I like my speshul snowflake RPGs character, after all. Thoughts?
http://www.miniwars.eu/2016/02/deathwatch-40k-reglas.html
I always really liked the concept of the Deathwatch. It brings together marines from all sorts of chapters to work together, and while they share the unity of black armor they still keep their chapter symbol on their shoulder to give each one some uniqueness.
There are a lot of cool stories that could be told between cross-chapter brotherhood and such. Maybe I'll actually get this shit.
>>45605311
>No anti-phasic bolts
shit tier deathwatch,
> 535 points
> for 11 models
Yeah, no.
>>45605570
A lot of these rules seem pretty shit-tier. All basic statlines, the kill team can't split up even though there is a bike and multiple jump infantry in it. Disappointing.
>>45605630
>>45605584
> Using the Formation
> Not just taking the Librarian, the Troop Squad, and the Terminator
You know the allied detachment exists, right?
>>45605475
I like how the Blood Angel is infinitely worse than the Raven Guard despite costing the exact same points and having nothing to justify that point cost.
>>45605892
Par for the course.
>>45605443
Ortan Cassius.
Why is he here? Is the book set before the 1st Tyranic War?
Why is his Deathwatch roots never mentioned?
>>45606179
Yes this is set before the Tyrannic wars, in fact I think it mentions in the background that this is one of the first times that Genestealers are noticed as being the cause of a Cult like this, before they were thought to be predators native to the moons of Ymgarl.
Personally I hope the Deathwatch get expanded on in how they can be taken and used, just having the one squad of characters would be lame.
>>45605311
They're not going to be customizable. Even the Raven Guard ones where they give you the whole box for veterans don't let you customize your wargear despite having all the bits in the box. The Salamander guy is GOING to be a Terminator with a Heavy Flamer and Melta Gun. No if's and's or asses.
>>45605892
The differences are simply due to their chapter tactics. The real problem is 1 hand flamer = 2 LC by GW logic.
>>45606974
>The Salamander guy is GOING to be a Terminator with a Heavy Flamer and Melta Gun. No if's and's or asses.
That's still pretty cool though. He's the best of the bunch easily.
>>45605389
I find the image of the one on the bike being forced to ride at walking speed far to amusing.
>>45605523
That terminator is just too good looking. Too bad I can't buy the models seperate
>>45607996
Oh, you'll be able to get them from ebay or places like dakka dakka. Plenty of guys will split up the boxes.
>>45605311
Seeing this just makes me wish GW would fucking wake up and switch over to a D10 already. It's ridiculous when something like a grot has an actual chance to kill a Space Marine or Aspect Warrior in a fight.
>>45605389
Sticking a bike and two jump troopers in with infantry seems... dumb.
Like, really dumb. Like, crippling their mobility advantage dumb.
I would run an allied detachment
The psyker HQ
The troop squad
The termi elite
and the Biker dude
Keep the librarian with the troop squad for some good obsec
The biker runs around and rushes up to the vehicles or juicy troop blob
The termi deepstrikes into the bike's beacon bubble and shots tank or juicy troop blob
Would it be worth the 370pts? Not sure. But it would sure as hell be cool to run.
>>45605759
>librarian
>not taking cassius
dude's sexy
though he does need a helmet for maximum sexy
>>45608391
oh, yeah. just... massively stupid.
>>45608285
A d10 wouldn't change the odds that much.
i'm kind of amused that the deathwatch dudes from overkill fit perfectly into gw's kill team format. squad donatus Plus the bike and one of the jump pack marines is exactly 250 points, and fits right into the kill team foc.
>>45605311
Where are the Genestealer Cult's rules?
>>45607036
>>45606974
>The Salamander guy is GOING to be a Terminator with a Heavy Flamer and Melta Gun. No if's and's or asses.
He's pretty hot stuff.
>>45611865
>giving a fuck about yet more space marines
Y'all niggas shitposting in a GSC thread.
>>45605443
Why doesn't Cassius have a bionic eye like the other model?
>>45614534
Are you retarded? Or just can't read?
WOW ITS FUCKING NOTHING
>>45614563
Both, both actually. Answer the question.
>>45614584
use your common sense holy fuck.
protip: he wasn't born with a bionic eye.
>>45614592
Are you implying he's newborn in the picture?
>>45614618
alright, I chuckled, you got me
>>45614618
Holy shit
ItsRetarded.jpg
Huh, most of these guys don't have Independent Character.
That's a pity. I'd love to add some of them to my existing squads when allied. As single models they seem a bit fragile.
>>45615233
Shame, the BA or RG character might have been a handy way to add heroic intervention to a jump pack squad of some sort. As it is, what's the benefit in ever fielding them in 40k? Cheap tarpits to give your heavier hitters another turn to get to the fight?
>>45605311
Completely agree, a small elite force of SM special ops would be a really fun, characterful and pretty cheap army to collect.
>>45605497
So he's just an ML2 Libby who pays 5 points for specialist ammo and loses the option to roll on anything but biomancy? Man, Thousand Sons are fucked, aren't they.
is it just be or does the blood angel not have any of the blood angel rules?
no black thirst or red thirst or whatever it was called
>>45605311
SPRUES
>HERE http://retributionangel.blogspot.de/
>>45615411
Red Thirst now is only a special rule of the BA codex FOC.
Now everyone gets Furious Charge instead of a chance to go full nutso
>>45605551
I may buy this whole set for this one model, and no, I don't have the money and yes, I regularly make poor financial choices
>>45615316
Yeah, I was looking at adding the Terminator to a footslogging mob of 20 Battle Sisters. A Heavy Flamer that's ALSO a meltagun? Yes please.
I wonder what the chances are that the board game associated with this is actually good. I've heard that BaC actually isn't too bad in that regard, at least according to people on the board game side of things. Overkill being an all vs one dungeon crawl is actually a little intriguing to me. The rules provided so far are simple, which is a good sign.
>>45605389
>Brother Branatar, we could just teleport you in
>NO, THEY SHALL GAZE UPON ME AND TREMBLE AT THEIR ONCOMING DOOM
>>45616502
>adding a deepstriking heavy flamer+meltagun to a footslogging unit
nigger what
>>45612876
Indeed they are.
Well what we have here is a Broodlord and a Lictor's baby, that has Telepathy access.
Worth taking, depending on the points which the photographer left out of frame like a total nonce. He also left the profile of his super rending claws, which is also very useful information to have.
Something like a new version of Genestealer's Kiss would have been nice on him, though.
>>45617740
And fuck me I want to field like 40 of these guys.
>>45617827
Woops.
>>45605431
One's a Ultramarine that plays by the rules..
The other's a Space Wolf that makes his own rules...
Together they fight crime, in a future time.
Smurf and Yiff coming this fall to TBS, The Superstation.
>>45606179
>>45606743
Me thinks it is because Cassius lacks plastic model and GW wants all to be plastic right now. Might he even have older head in the box as well?
Setting this early is quite cool, but gives additional problems. Namely the timeframe:
Hellfire bolts aren't invented (but are in the rules) +
Most other Marines are quite likely to be dead at 999m41
>>45608391
>>45609046
Yeah the combo-unit is just waste of points.
Not to mention that these are mostly just standard marines WITH NO ANTI-XENOS rules at all makes the 40krules sad jokes and complete afterthough
>>45617740
Psychic Shriek for primaris
Zero balistic skill, means you can never ever use it.
Also it occurs to me if you wanted to start a genestealer cult army, you could literally buy the box, sell all the snowflake marines seperatley on ebay for as much as the box cost, and make your army for free.
>>45618216
>sell all the snowflake marines seperatley on ebay for as much as the box cost
You really think anyone would bite on that?
Especially with these rules?
I mean I know they're nice looking models you can use to stand in for sergeants or something, but you would never want duplicates of any of them in your army.
>>45617841
assault grenades, rending claws, 4 attacks on charge, nice
>>45618216
The Termie and maybe Cassius are literally the only two that are cool.
>Expecting people will pay $150+ for a handful of mediocre marines.
GW has officially made you retarded.
>>45617740
Does the Patriarch have a mean attitude?
>>45618351
>>45618398
I'm pretty sure he means to sell the marines individually for around sixteen bucks a pop (at least in American currency that would cover the box cost), but I'm not sure you would be able to sell all of them.
Hopefully this set is around long enough to become as cheap as the DV set is online.
>>45618442
I know what he meant, I'm saying they don't have that much resell value for the reasons I listed.
>>45618377
I know, right? They're still s4 and a decent initiative, too.
These guys will make fantastic screens - only downside is it's too easy to kill them in one round of shooting, but at least they will probably have to use more than one unit to do it since they're Fearless.
>>45618398
every person playing white scars or an offshoot is going to want that biker for a khan model. I think HE will sell for the most.
>>45618398
the little pseudo-sternguard squad is pretty cool, even if the dark angel kind of ruins it with his lack of a bolter
>>45618442
well, 20 precent off with a decent store discount.so 130 ish. Sell each one for 11 or 12 bucks. its possible.
>>45618535
These are a halfway decent unit, if nothing else they can help get the Pure Strains and the Hybrids into CC, they certainly can't be ignored.
Man, it's disappointing to see them do this to the sprues, even if it was kind of expected. It was a must buy for me before seeing them, now I'm thinking again.
>>45618783
Ditto.
You can't even do a easy swap for awesome helmets seeing as the heads and bodies are attached.
Also the frag cannon looks like a poopy anus.
>>45618833
I have Crimson Fists, I was thinking I'd cut the end off and make it an auto-cannon with some extra plastic rods.
>...looks like a poopy anus
Thanks anon, I laughed...its immature, but its the truth.
>>45616344
Just lurk your LGS and ask tyranid players if you can buy their biker
>>45618889
Fine, keep talking your sense, sense-talking...guy.
And yes, that is the much better of the option that I brought up.
>>45618833
>seeing as the heads and bodies are attached
cassius, ultramarine, wolf and iron hand can be swapped
The others all seem fairly easy to decapitate, but that'll have to wait until I seem them in person.
>>45619180
I'm way more pissed off that the shoulder pads come pre molded so you can't change them for the proper looking metal ones without the retarded dented rim.
>>45619248
really?
it's funky. I'm glad they brought it over from the Inquisitor models.
>>45617740
>>45617841
Why would just these two leak and not the rest when it's all supposed to be in an entirely different issue of WD from the Deathwatch portions?
>>45619800
because it's a preview page for the next issue
>>45619248
Do you even this hobby? Just dremel/chop off the pad and slap the one you want on the model
>>45605311
>Ultramarine in command
>Ultramarine also second in command
Ultra as fuck.
>>45605570
Not that far forward in the timeline famalam.
>>45621052
>A lone wolf DAngel
>A FNG Space Wolf
>Mr NoCharisma Iron Hands
And as you are supossed to hand the heavy mashin'gun to your second most veteran soldier, only the Ultra remains for commanding position.
>>45621052
>A Marine the Fists Exemplar wished to be Captain is less skilled at command than a regular Ultramarine
U L T R A
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>>45621272
>Not giving second charge to glorious relic finding Blood Raven.
