>Dungeons and Dragons
>Barbarian wants a small battering ram
Should I let him?
>>45501216
Of course not. If they need something to destroy doors with just give wizard knock as a cantrip.
There's a portable ram in the SRD equipment section, at least in 3.5
>>45501216
why would you not...
>>45501312
>Implying retarded 9 int barbarian can be trusted with a battering ram
>not giving potentially dangerous thing into the hands of a person who can use it responsibly
>>45501216
Portable ram is a legit item in the rulebook, this shouldn't even be in question barbarians don't get much utility outside of combat so letting him have a crack at breaking down doors is no different to letting your rogue attempt to pick a lock on a door.
>>45501216
I fail to see how attacking door with Improvised Weapon is any better than attacking it with regular weapon.
>>45501350
>retarded 9 int
Truly the threeaboos, 4rries, and (whatever derisive term has been created to mock 5th edition players) are the worst.
>>45501350
>Playing D&D
>Being responsible
Sounds like a super fun campaign you guys are playing.
>>45501350
>not giving potentially dangerous thing into the hands of a person who can use it responsibly
>the hands of a person who can use it responsibly
>responsibly
>Wizard
>Fucking responsible wizard
It's like you want everything to wrong
>>45501350
>person who can use it responsibly
>Wizard
>>45501216
I don't see why you can't give it to your barbarian. Make him pay the cost of a maul or some other bludgeoning weapon so he can use it in combat too.
Remember, try not to say "no" as a DM. The characters want to fuck up everything, let them fail. A mini-ram is going to wake every creature in a huge radius and they will all funnel into the same room to kill the barb.
Your wizard gets some burn damage with AoE stuff, the rogue gets behind the team and uses ranged weapons for sneak attacks, and your cleric can heal the team.
I think this would be a fun encounter, to be honest. Let the barbarian have his mini-ram.
>>45501350
Found THAT DM.
>>45501365
But a battering ram isn't improvised; it's a tool meant for a specific job
>>45501216
I've seen them in action. They're perfectly fine.
>>45501350
>No, Orgoth SwordLord, that battering ram is far too dangerous to be trusted in your dimwitted hands.
>Now pick up that two handed sword, we have an orc war party to put down
>>45501350
Slightly below average isn't retarded, retard.
Battering Ram
two handed melee weapon
1d12
+5 to sunder attempts against stationary (not held) objects
+5 to bull rush attempts
>>45501350
>wizards
>responsible
>>45501350
>wizards
>responsible
Pick one.
Or should I get the shotgun?
>>45501288
And 5e.
![07-15-2014_battering_ram_-_the_ultimate_weapon[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/znrl7f6.jpg "07-15-2014_battering_ram_-_the_ultimate_weapon[1].jpg")
>>45501216
what's the worst it could happen
>>45501216
Considering it's an item in the PHB yes.
>>45501216
No, the only available battering ram is in ur mom's ass.
Oh wait, that's my dick
>>45502542
Apparently either a heartwarming selfless sacrifice or the end of the world judging from your picture.
>not breaking down doors with your barehands
2/10, Would not adventure with
>>45501350
>int = responsibility and trust
that's like hiring a chef based on his knowledge on food and not his ability to cook
>>45502553
There's an 18+ age limit on 4chan. Come back in 7 years
>>45502599
>Not breaking down doors with your bearhands.
What are you? Some kind of non Druidic adventurer?
>>45501384
>whatever derisive term has been created to mock 5th edition players
There isn't onebecause why would you mock someone who makes good decisions? :^)
>>45502611
Yeah, you hire that guy to make the marinades.
Get the cleric to do the cooking.
if he's a good Barbarian, he took a two-handed weapon. there's your door remover.
>Giving him a small ram
He's a big boy and he needs a big boy weapon
>>45502611
Was coming in to say this.
If the Barbarian has average or so wisdom I'd trust him not to use it when he shouldn't.
>>45501216
Yes. Not that he likely needs it but its a cool piece of kit to have and it makes sense for an adventurer to carry.
>>45501350
>9 INT is retarded.
>That means 11 INT is genius
>>45501350
>responsibly
But Wisdom is used for responsible decisions. Give it to the cleric.
>"I could use the space to carry more rations and wine."
>"Hey, Skullcracker, do you want a new toy?"
Those Rams are heavy they don't get packed around on backs during adventures. They get taken out of the trunk of the police car and used to breach a single primary door. So if the Barbarian wants to carry around a 50 lb single application tool, let him.
>>45503588
They're 11 lbs.
>>45503588
>50 lb tool
>implying it's heavy
DYEL?
>>45501436
Fucking Stardust, that shit gives me genuine chills thinking about.
It's the comic equivalent of the thoughts of a disgruntled office-worker about to go postal.
>>45503671
You have clearly never packed 50 lbs all day long walking somewhere.
>>45503599
Bullshit the real ones are between 20 and 45 lbs.
>>45501350
>retarded
>9 int
>>45503599
>>45503908
>Ram, portable 10 gp, 20 lb.
In 3.5 at least
>>45501631
Maybe -2 to hit? Battering ram as a weapon seems super unwieldy
>>45501216
Why wouldn't you let him get the appropriate tool for busting doors exactly ? And how would you justify it ?
>>45504067
5e put it as 4gp and 35lb
>>45504014
At least, in a D&D, a '9' will make you -feel- retarded when you try to do something.
>>45504014
>Dumber than over 50% of the population
>Dumber than the average person who is already fucking stupid
>Not retarded
I can guess what end of the IQ scale you're on.
>>45504404
>average person who is already fucking stupid
>>45504404
>everyone slightly dumber than average is immediately retarded
You didn't have too many friends in high school, didn't you?
>>45504490
I wouldn't narrow it down to just high school
>>45501350
I'd consider 9 to just be a little on the uneducated side, like a highschool dropout.
Besides, responsabile use of power sounds more like a Wisdom thing than an Intelligence thing.
I'm pretty sure that regardless of wisdom though, a slightly thick Barbarian understands the concept of 'use ram to hit door, not halfling hostage or priceless artifact'
>>45504404
>Thinking IQ testing provides an accurate measure of intelligence.
You appear to lack depth in emotional intelligence. This is likely why you drive other people away.
>Thinking a -1 to INT rolls means you can't even function as a normal human being.
>Writing off half the population as un-functional non-humans
>>45501312
He has the right of it.
>>45504404
>I don't know the definition of retarded
It's okay anon. You're special, but I'll teach you
>Retardation cutoff is 70 or below, plus deficits in 2 or more (just read pic related)
>IQ 70 is the 2nd percentile, meaning it's lower than 98% of the population, not 50%
>IQ 70 and below corresponds to intelligence scores 4 and below
As for intelligence 9, it's not the brightest bulb, but not the dimmest either.
>corresponds to IQ 93, barely below average
>corresponds to 32nd percentile, meaning higher than roughly a third of the population
>associated with manual laborers like farmhands, factory workers, gardeners, and republican presidential candidates
>>45504738
>mislabeled filename
Meant to type INT there. I guess we know where my IQ is.
>>45504404
>Dumber than the average person who is already fucking stupid
The average person isn't fucking stupid. He's average.
>>45504404
>Dumber than the average person who is already fucking stupid
Does it really make sense to say that the average person is stupid, if the average person is of average intelligence, and stupidity is generally defined as below-average intelligence?
>>45504875
Non anon, being stupid IS the average.
>>45501216
Someone replace that guy's face with spurdo.
>>45505048
Actually you are anon, because you didn't post with a username
Who's the retard now, gayfag?
>>45505252
I'm you anonymous and you are me. We are both nowhere and everywhere
>>45504738
According to that chart I had 17 INT in fourth grade.
>>45505656
implying IQ on children is comparable to IQ on adults. And not meant to be compared to other children.
>>45505656
Wait, why were you taking a IQ test in 4th grade and how did you score a 138?
>>45505692
Because my mother thought I was a smart kid. I did amazing on the IQ test to get a 142.
>>45505686
Yeah. My IQ dropped 7 points to a 135 as a college freshman.
>>45502542
>>45502575
Best videogame.
>>45505656
Friendly reminder that IQ isn't meant to test geniuses rather find the dumb dumbs
>>45505719
Peoples' IQ drops as they age. Apparently the test rewards fluid intelligence (which kids have more of) as opposed to crystallized intelligence (the sort adults get more of)
>My IQ dropped 7 points as a college freshman.
All that alcohol really gets to your head.
>>45502611
although I'd really like my chef to know food
>>45504404
imo int approximates to 1/10 of the character's IQ, this gets wonky above about 16-18 int but I find it usually works well for players and most npc's
This would mean in my world 7 or lower int is legally retarded by modern standards, and 8-9 represents an idiot who is not actually retarded. 10-11 is the average commoner and anything above that can range from bright to genius.
>>45506190
>not having a chef that feels food
the plebbest
>>45501216
Is there a Dwarf in the party?
>>45505829
The calculation of the test is also, (or was originally) mental age/ real age * 100.
So aging affects the results.
>>45501259
How the fuck is that a better solution? Wizards get to do plenty of cool shit anyway; let the barbarian have his fun. A portable ram isn't going to break the game.
>>45504404
>power gamers
