This was just leaked but something seems off
>>45366655
>flavor text doesn't end with a period
Dumb bullshit.
The year on the paper is 2017.
>>45366655
What kind of set symbol is that mess
>>45366752
A fake one.
>>45366748
Wait what the fucj
>>45366655
Probably a fake, also that design seems kinda dumb.
>>45366748
Unless that's some elaborate 1-year-ahead-of-a-time mockup of a card that's actually gonna come in 2017. IIRC R&D works on sets like three years ahead of a time, so it's entirely possible some cards for the beginning of 2017 are already determined.
>>45366655
Non-magicfag here. I'm confused. How can you spoil Magic? Wouldn't you get the story the exact same way anyway? By reading it off the cards?
>>45366655
Looks like spoilers from the set after Innistrad 2
>>45366879
The date on the actual newspaper is 2017.
>>45366896
Spoilers are what we call reveals of soon to be printed cards, they aren't actually spoiling anything.
Maybe it's from the summer supplemental?
>>45366896
Spoiling what cards are going to be in the set, not the story. You're probably right; it's not the best term for what we're doing, but that's the convention now.
As for the card, it's probably fake but I could see something like thatwhen we return to Lorwyn in September
Art is way too ugly for this to be legit
>>45366928
>>45366976
Ah. Thanks
>>45366655
The Copyright on the card says 2018, so fake as fuark.
>>45366655
Regardless if this is fake or not, it reeks of an underwater set I desperately crave.
That faction symbol kind of looks like a sea shell.
>>45366655
No period in flavour text, the Low looks out of alignment with the rest of the card, Maro is adamantly opposed to an underwater set.
>>45366655
Found the original art.
>>45367860
Welp, that's it.
Go home, everybody.
>>45366655
Anyone see this?
>>45367997
Fake. The symbol looks like shit and the wording for Madness is wrong.
>>45367997
Effect is believable, but why the fuck would that effect be printed at rare?
>>45367997
it is brainstorm fuck me if this is real
>>45368201
It's perfectly believable considering Wizards has recently been dumping a bunch of "worse" versions of cherished cards at Rare and above. See Honored Hierarch.
Same reason why the Not-Tarmogoyf fake was also perfectly believable.
>>45368239
It isn't brainstorm but it might have some niche usage.
>>45368026
The wording for madness seems up to date friend
Doesn't mean it's rule I'm just disputing your claim that it's inconsistent with the oracle text for madness
The spanish on the newspaper makes no sense. It's basically english, really badly translated with an online translator.
What I want is a set of cheap common dual lands that can come in untapped under certain conditions.
>>45368461
Rule should be real
>>45368461
See the new cards. Madness wording was changed for SOI, friend.
>>45368026
>>45367997
>>45368461
Now I'm confused.
This is the wording on the original card printed in Time Spiral.
>Madness R (If you discard this card, you may play it for its madness cost instead of putting it into your graveyard.)
This is the wording on the gatherer oracle.
>Madness R (If you discard this card, you may cast it for its madness cost instead of putting it into your graveyard.)
Pic related is the wording on the Fiery Temper spoiled reprint.
>Madness R, If you discard this card, discard it i____. When you do, cast it for its madness cost or put it into your graveyard.
(The only word that makes sense in the blank space is instead, but what the fuck would be the reason for this wording? Anyone have any suggestions?)
So not only is the wording on the card not in line with the current wording (it uses CAST instead of play), they seem to be changing the wording with SOI too.
>>45366655
>wedge colored a year after a wedge set
>five lines across four abilities on a land
>three different downsides that will confuse the hypothetical idiot new player they are designing for these days
Even putting aside the issues with the presentation this is obviously fake. Maro isn't lead for the block but there's still no way he'd give this a greenlight.
>>45368485
Pick two
>dual
>comes untapped under certain conditions
>not rare
>>45368554
It's "discard it in exile".
The wording was recently changed to the new one on MTGO as well.
>>45368589
I think it's more likely "into exile"
>>45366655
I'm glad this is not real. That is one shitty land.
>>45368644
It would have to be in exile to fit in the text, and he said it was already changed on MTGO so that's pretty much guaranteed to be the right translation.
>>45368660
That guy is full of shit. They didn't change the wording; Madness just works differently on MTGO now, by putting the card into a special zone first.
It is consistent with the new wording though.
>>45368695
That's literally the way it's always worked according to the comprehensive rules. The new wording makes what's happening more clear.
Found the original art
>>45368660
He's wrong.
>>45366655
Should just enter the battlefield tapped.
Either way, 0/10 will not see play.
>>45368744
>>45368695
>>45368761
502.24a Madness represents two abilities. The first is a static ability of cards that functions while the card is in a player's hand. The second is a triggered ability that functions whenever the first ability is applied. The phrase "Madness [cost]" means "If a player would discard this card from his or her hand, that player discards it, but may remove it from the game instead of putting it into his or her graveyard," and "Whenever this card is removed from the game this way, until he or she passes next, he or she may play it any time he or she could play an instant as though it were in his or her hand by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost. When he or she passes next, he or she puts it into his or her graveyard."
502.24c Any time you discard a card which has madness, you have the option to remove it from the game (to play it using its madness ability) or not. If you remove it from the game, the second part of the madness ability triggers. When this ability resolves, you have the option of playing the spell for its madness cost. You can only play it the very next time you could play an instant this turn. If it's an instant or sorcery, put it into your graveyard when it resolves. If it's an artifact, creature or enchantment, put it into play when it resolves.
Remove from game = Exile
>>45368785
>A better karoo land wouldn't see play
It's obviously fake as shit, but you're fucking retarded
>>45368845
only person in this thread with sense
>>45368845
No shit. The point is that it's probably "discard it into exile," not "discard it in exile," which makes no sense at all.
>>45369128
which leads me to ask, wouldn't "exile it instead" be more proper?
>>45369148
No, because then it would replace the actual discard trigger and it wouldn't work with stuff like Waste Not, that triggers off discarding.
>>45366879
They only finalise things to actually get printed about 9 months in advance though.
>>45368554
Rules sometimes get rewritten to remove unclear rules interactions, or to make things clearer.
>>45368850
>Karoos see any play in an eternal format
There's a reason shocks are so expensive, you know.
>>45367997
Holy shit modern madness Brainstorm?
Going straight into Jeleva and Hanna EDH.
>>45366655
>Torreón not capitalized
>That fucking grammar
Even the newspaper is fake.
>>45366655
>trademarked & copyrighted 2018 Wizards of the Coast
>>45370229
A deck that used karoo lands literally just got banned in modern.
>>45372433
Pretty sure that's a 6 and some glare, bruh
>>45366920
>>45366879
Meanwhile the year printed on the card is 2018.
>>45368502
But what does it say?!
>When you discard this card, discard it with Madness
I fucking hope this is it. I want to slam the cards onto the table and shout in my opponent's face as I do it.
>>45373117
Nah, butt on 8 gives it away
Of course, he may be from the future
>>45372692
The only reason it used them was because of a unique interaction with Amulet of Vigor and Bloom. Apart from those, Karoos have never seen play in Modern.
But then, why would they? They threaten the hegemony of shock/fetchlands which WotC knows will move product. Printing something to compete with them reduces that ability.
>>45366655
Looks legit...somehow?
Why would anyone fake a card and write '2018' on it?
That spanish newspaper would also makes sense since our newest spoilers came from a spanish dude.
>>45368554
Because the new wording describes how Madness actually works.
>702.34. Madness
>702.34a Madness is a keyword that represents two abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the card with madness is in a player’s hand. The second is a triggered ability that functions when the first ability is applied. “Madness [cost]” means “If a player would discard this card, that player discards it, but may exile it instead of putting it into his or her graveyard” and “When this card is exiled this way, its owner may cast it by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost. If that player doesn’t, he or she puts this card into his or her graveyard.”
>702.34b Casting a spell using its madness ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
>>45366748
I mean, come on!
>>45376680
The guy being responded to said that the hypothetical cycle of lands would see no play. Obviously that's completely incorrect, as the Ravnica karoos saw play in standard in their time, and these are better due to color flexibility. He quickly moved the goalposts to suggest that karoos have never seen play in "eternal formats" (Modern of course isn't an eternal format, but he brought up shocks, which implies he thinks it is). That's also a factually incorrect statement, as amulet bloom relied heavily on karoo lands before the bans rendered the deck more or less unplayable. Now you're attempting to move the goalposts again by saying that they aren't better than shocks and fetches, which is completely unrelated to the initial claim.
Also, you seem to be insinuating that Shocks and Fetches are the only lands that drive booster sales, which is also blatantly false. Standard is the biggest driver of sales, and any rare duals are going to move product, as they'll be necessary for high-level standard play
TL;DR: That guy is wrong, you're wrong(assuming you're not him), please stop making a fool of yourself.
