>You all wake up in a jail cell!
>None of you have any of your gear lol
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>>45283255
I'm a druid, what's the problem?
>>45283255
i wonder where this'll go, then. because i'm not a fucked up control freak who goes ballistic the moment any fictional power in a make-believe world is taken away from me.
but if DM is just trying to kill us easier, what's the point, then.
>>45283356
You're just a control freak that likes to make people with made up powers useless to fit into whatever uninspired shit narrative you've got going?
>>45283255
This spell instantly transports you to a designated destination, which may be as distant as 100 miles per caster level. Interplanar travel is not possible. You can bring along objects as long as their weight doesn’t exceed your maximum load. You may also bring one additional willing Medium or smaller creature (carrying gear or objects up to its maximum load) or its equivalent (see below) per three caster levels. A Large creature counts as two Medium creatures, a Huge creature counts as two Large creatures, and so forth. All creatures to be transported must be in contact with one another, and at least one of those creatures must be in contact with you. As with all spells where the range is personal and the target is you, you need not make a saving throw, nor is spell resistance applicable to you. Only objects held or in use (attended) by another person receive saving throws and spell resistance.
>>45283255
>At least being a monk is going to pay off!
>You start unconscious and tied
If I was planning to start a campaign that way, I'd tell my players so before character creation. That way they don't waste time worrying about gear.
The problem I have with everyone waking in jail as a campaign starter is that it gives no reason for the party to stay together after they escape. I could add a reason, but if I do all the jail start has is removing their starting gear. Which isn't that interesting.
Later on in a campaign there are typically some PCs who can handle losing their removable gear much better than other PCs.
>>45283255
>I'll bluff the guards to think I'm sink
>So what they don't care lol
>>45283255
>You overhear a guard mentioning an evidence room in the east wing near the barracks
>One of the guards spits his coffee as he's told how many weapons the new prisoners were carrying
>>45283386
nah, i just trust that if the DM's doing something like that, they're gonna have a point to it.
and if they're not, well, fuck 'em, i guess. damn shame. etcetera.
I'm the healbot cleric. My combat abilities are only slightly diminished.
> PCs escape
> Find a pile of equipment.
> They don't realise that the pile is just their starting gear.
> Big argument about how they will split the gear up.
>>45283255
I look around the cell for anything out of place. I push on all the bricks and bars. I call to see if anyone is there. If no one is there I wait. When someone comes I ask why I am here. If I get no answer then I hang myself with my pants.
>>45283255
What's wrong with it?
>>45283255
You see Dave, this is why I took Eschew Materials/hid my focus up my ass.
>>45283579
> If I get no answer then I hang myself with my pants.
"Gear" includes clothing.
>>45283623
It's unoriginal garbage and one of the most dickish ways to remove player agency
Good thing my wizard always carries an extra bag of magic components up his ass
>>45283395
Lol, antimagic jail cell.
>You find a chest outside your cell.
>It has all your gear inside.
>>45283678
>players are imprisoned, stripped of equipment
>literally all their equipment is in an evidence room down the hall
>"WAAAHHH, WE DON'T HAVE NO AGENCY"
>players are imprisoned, still have all their shit
>"God GM, why are these enemies all so stupid!?"
>>45283678
>Alright lets begin this tale of Foul creatures and deep caverns, this will be a tale to remember for all times
>You meet up at a local tavern
>>45283732
Both of those scenarios are shit and they both involve the "jail cell" setting so what does that tell you?
>>45283255
Literally how my last d20 game began.
Then I got to listen to the druid cry like a cunt, because his animal companion wasn't in the cell with him.
>"its just dumb that they wouldn't put my horse in the cell too"
>"so can I see my horse from here?"
>"they want us to fight in an arena? Now do I get my horse???"
>>45283678
As a player, I think it's fun, but as people have said, state that's the case if it's the start of a campaign.
Recovering gear or scrounging for shit can be fun. I hate how a lot of games hand wave that stuff. Yes, tracking exactly how much water you have left is dull, but exploring the forest for the basics necessary to survival can be just as exciting and tense as fighting a dragon.
And if it's not the start of a campaign, you get captured, no shit the bad guys are going to take your gear and take away your characters' agency. That's what prison is for. At least you're not dead. Although I wouldn't mind "you're all imprisoned, roll new characters" as an alternative to death.
>>45283678
You know, if you'd asked to listen for anything down the hallway or tried to shout to the prisoner in the opposite cell, who I explicitly said was already there when the guards escorted you in, I would have given you a hint to your circumstances or a way to escape.
This also could have been a great time to establish something small about your character. I mentioned they took your weapons and armor, but didn't search you too thoroughly; I'd have bought it if you said that your Rogue always carries a spare lockpick in her boot, since you did take max ranks in Open Lock.
But, no. You threw a bitch fit about player agency and left the table before I was even finished describing your surroundings. Fuck you, Greg. We're only playing D&D in the first place because it's the only system you know.
>>45283763
That's purely a matter of opinion.
GM, have I been raped, and if so, how many times?
>>45283255
>However it's all stowed in evidence, so you can fairly easily get it back should you manage to break out, which you obviously will
>>45283255
>>guard walks over and let's you out, "let this be a lesson to you all the next time you think its a good idea to take a drink whenever you encounter an elf with a plant based name or dwarf with a metal based name.
>>45283678
What we do; the players describe their characters and group.
I've seen:
>we're hired auxiliary scouts for (x)
>we're all from the same village, old friends
>were siblings
>we all met on the 3month boat ride getting here
Seems to work better. Plus, they'll often come up with goals.
>" we'll event want our own ship "
Which makes shit easy for me.
>no GMPC/NPC/fellow convict helps the PCs escape
>there's no secret passage out of the prison
>the guards are loyal and won't be tricked
>the PCs serve their time and are then released
My favourite subversion to this cliché.
>>45283672
>"Gear" includes clothing.
I hang myself with my dick.
>>45283255
Don't get me started. One gm I play with has used this for the last two campaigns he has run. He does not even plan on us getting our selfs out. he always has a much higher level gmnpc that we need to convince to get us out. And then when he tpk's the naked and unarmed party with guard that are laying in ambush he blame it on the wizard and cleric for not helping more. Needless to say his not gming any more.
>>45283255
I cast fist on the weakest wall.
>taverns are no longer fine
>prisons are no longer fine
Christ, what do you want, /tg/? Should I start campaigns in the middle of the sea?
>>45283955
>gm I play with
>not gming anymore
Wut?
He's a player now?
>>45283763
It tells me that you confuse your personal preferences for objective statements about the value of a fictional concepts. Is that what you're getting at?
Rolled 13 (1d20)
>>45284004
Forgot to roll.
>>45283766
Hey man, the DM taking your horse away is nothing to joke about!
>>45283900
>expecting players to talk to each other out of session and plan shit
wat
>>45284008
How about you start them with something actually happening instead of everyone beating off with the same tired how-do-ya-dos for a session.
>>45284008
I understand your pain, but I'd consider starting with a mostly OOC character and world building session, and starting the plot proper on session two, in the middle of something exciting. Look at the intro to Raiders of the Lost Ark for instance.
>>45283255
I see little wrong with this personally but then I enjoy problem solving.
My first step is to check the locale. See if theres any loose bricks, any loose bars, windows, source of food etc. I eat and drink if possible.
Second step is to exploit any weakness I discovered or, failing that, call over the nearest guard to ask what Im in for. If I can convince them to come over, I grab them and pull them into the bars to knock them out, assuming they're alone. Then I take whatever I can from them, including weapons and keys and use these to exit the cell.
Then I make a mad dash for the exit, leaving gear retrieval for a few days time when the heat has died down a bit.
If I fail, I'll need to take a while longer to work on a better plan.
>>45284004
The wall explodes into pebbles before your muscle wizardy might.
The explosion was fairly loud, you are not sure if any potential guards in the area heard the sound of your Fist spell.
Act fast, what do you do?
>>45284015
Yeah stupidest thing he has done so far is as he was scouting the bbeg's hideout he charged in on his own instead of waiting for the rest of the party cause "I thought I could take him out in one turn". Him vs high level wizard and about half a dozen cultists.
My party in Only War once lost allllllll their gear that they had earned at that point. We were like 3/4 through the campaign.
It was legit though, they got themselves captured and I actually hadn't even planned on it. They managed to escape but for a long while they had to entirely improvise and scrounge because they had nothing but their faith in the Emperor in their inventory.
>>45284475
I don't mind is nearly as much.
>>45284396
I tell my cellmates to run quietly, then go up to my bars and try to call a guard to inform them my cellmates are trying to escape.
>>45283255
As someone who is just about to start Out of the Abyss this isn't as bad as you think.
>>45283403
>get out of the cell and fight
>get killed in the 3rd turn
>>45283766
Why would you pick a horse as your animal companion?
>You can commune with the beasts of the wild, and because of this great gift you have the boon of-
>I want a horse.
>You... you can buy those. You don't need-
>Fuck you, I want a horse.
Then he shows up to druid school and everyone with wolves and bears and shit just make fun of him for the next four years until he graduates with a neurotic complex.
>>45284862
Actually it would really fit with the Celtic theme. Epona and all that.
>>45284743
The guard comes up to you and you recognize him as a fellow instructor at the local Muscle Wizard college. He looks disappointed at what you told him.
He explains to you that you and the rest were thrown in the jail because you blacked out last night drunk and caused a lot of local damage with your wild spellcasting.
You are dangerously close to being expelled. He also looks mad that you blew a whole in the wall.
How do you proceed/what do you do?
>>45283255
>there are people who are actually upset by this
>>45283255
>New DM who has no idea how to start a campaign.
>Uh...You all wake up in a jail cell cause bandits saw your shit and took you. Now you're all acquainted.
>>45283255
I actually started my campaign this way, or thereabouts. All the players woke up buried in sarcophagi, no memory of why they were buried there or how they knew each other.
The others buried with them woke up, too, but were mostly undead with the occasional survivor like them. They had to use improvised weapons like rocks and clubs to get out with no armor, real weapons, potions, or anything.
No one complained, seemed to go over well.
>>45284972
I bluff asking him if he knew what happened after I finished my 4th keg in a row since I don't remember what happened after that. (I do remember up to the first bar fight outside; but not who with).
>tfw wake up in jail
>tfw whole party relies on equipment
>tfw you were the only one who paid for abilities unarmed
>>45284862
Mlp fag most likely
>>45283255
>Monk is shit
>Anyone who creates an environment where monk is good is shit
You people deserve to be miserable.
>>45284862
Horses are easier to ride than other due to having solid spines & broad shoulders if memory serves me correctly. So having a horse is best for travelling comftably & quickly over shit like wolves/leopards.
Or maybe it's a beta druid who uses the horse because it was his first & only beast he's ever befriended.
>>45285262
The GM ought to at least give the other people a chance to get some improvised gear.
>>45285473
As a GM, I always scatter gearless sections of gameplay around. PCs get captured, PCs enter a null-magic zone, PCs fight setting-equivalent rust monsters.
For one, as you say, it gives them a chance to be inventive. Zipguns and hastily-constructed axes, but it also gives the guys who invested their characters into the versatility they need to be capable of unarmed fighting.
Just the other week joined a game starting in prison. Found a metal bar, used it to hold up the jailer by bluffing that it was a gun, made my exit.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
>start campaign with gear we had to spend character creation points on to get
>all lost when a boat sinks from under us with no way to interfere
>sessions latter, lagging behind with gear we had to fight tooth and nail for
>it all evaporates when we have to use plot portal
>next set of gear we find is used by god to break into another plane and leaves us without gear again
>gm throws a bitch fit when he realizes we all spent further xp into unarmed/armorless combat
>quits game because he does not know what to do with us
If you are a gm that uses the party's gear as a way to lead them down your story, fuck off. Take your shit back to 2nd edition dnd and never fucking come back.
>>45283900
tpk guy, is that you?
If not, well, at least i'm happy that being reasonable while creating a team (TEAM, goddamnit!) does occur sometimes.
>>45285762
Jesus Christ you ALL sound like shitty people, GM included. Kindly stay in your corner of the internet and don't infest the rest of us with your filth.
>>45283924
Actually had my players suggest this. They decided it would be easier to wait it out (they were imprisoned for drunk and disorderly etc. etc.) and it forced me to come up with a Shawshank style scenario as they didnt want to "skip ahead" to their release date.
Was fun. Despite the wizard getting his fingers broken for trying to charm a guard and the rogue cheating a minor crime boss out of smokes.
>>45283255
One of us can become incorporeal, on can go Hulk levels of SMASH and one can charm people to the point that's virtually mind control. So unless the jail is freight container halfway across the Atlantic with crew and rations gone from the ship and there's a storm brewing, we're good.
>>45285945
So, the gm going out of his way to take away shit from chargen and the his players adapting to the situation after having enough makes them shitty people and not the gm?
If that is what it is like outside that corner, I dont want to be out here either.
>>45283678
It's a fun development and a good way to salvage a game if they players end up surrendering or just all dying.
>join campaign, roll russian bear druid
>first session, DM announces that the room is filling with a "mysterious gas"
>immediately wild shape, DM allows
>dead end, no save against passing out in the gas
>wake up in a magical cell, still in wild shape
>gear is gone anyway
And I didn't even get to the part where only the DMPC knew the secret password to unlock the magical cells.
>>45285945
Are you blaming the players for adapting to the challenges set by the DM?
>>45283948
This campaign is a bit too magical realm for my tastes.
Bye. I hope you have fun.
>>45283883
>"let this be a lesson to you all the next time you think its a good idea to take a drink whenever you encounter an elf with a plant based name or dwarf with a metal based name.
>now let me take you to the morgue to identify the body of the party member who thought they could take a drink whenever they encountered a dwarf with a beard based name.
>"Make sure you record which items are in your pack, and which are on your horse."
>"Why? Are we going to lose our packs or horses?"
>players start hedging bets on which they're going to lose
>rearrange their items accordinglyThis wouldn't bother me if they weren't always right.
>>45284008
>sit down at table with four other players in my club
>GM arrives, introduces everyone and verifies we all wrote at least one paragraph for PC backgrounds
>I wrote two pages
>GM starts the scenario by having us wake up in a laboratory strapped to tables.
>"Your vision slowly comes into focus. The immense pounding in your head is matched only by the raging thunderstorm crashing through the collapsed ceiling. You have no idea how long you've been here but given the state of your surroundings, you'd guess whoever put you here is not coming back."
>work ourselves free
>"Oh one more thing. Everyone pass your Character sheets to the person on your left."
So apparently we got body swapped by some mad wizard, and the campaign was our journey to set things right again. The DE rogue quit on the spot when he learned he would be playing a Half Orc barbarian chick.
Was I pissed at first? Yes. Was it fun to play as a Human Paladin trapped in a Halfling Bard's body....eventually.
>>45286506
That's pretty hilarious. Somewhere between That GM and ballsy as fuck. Props to the guy either way.
>>45286506
This is a fucking amazing idea.
This is going to be an arc in my supers campaign.
>>45284862
If it's Pathfinder then horses and camels are the only Large animals you can get at low levels, so if the player wanted a mount I could maybe see it happening.
>>45284008
For modern-ish game I had the characters meet at the welfare queue.
What brought them together and sparked the sense of brotherhood wasbeing the only white people there.
>>45284862
>why would you want a horse?
>there are mechanically superior choices, man!
>fuck your character concept, you should minmax!
Come on, man, sometimes people like to play something different, even if it's not "the best."
>>45286773
Dude, have you ever actually been in a welfare line? I have. There were SO many rednecks and assorted white trash folks there.
>>45285310
Just because other characters may be worse than the monk in that situation, doesn't mean the monk is good.
>>45285762
>>start campaign with gear we had to spend character creation points on to get
Please tell me what system this was so that I might avoid it in the future.
>>45286167
>>45286271
Yes, for whining about "muh character points" then the GM for not compensating when the players finally wised up and started spending XP to cope with the loss. Lack of communication = a shit group. You can easily talk about this kind of thing without spoiling plot like rational adults, but instead you come on here and cry like you're 12? Fuck off, and stay in your corner.
>>45284862
Joke's on them when horse-druid learns to use a lance from horseback.
Also
>Not being a mongolian horse-shaman
>>45286834
Black trash learned to be trash from white trash. It is known.
I wish we would wake up in a jail cell. usually we just go straight to prison, we do not get to collect 200 gold coins and then we spend the whole session trying to get out, which is just painfully boring by now.
>>45285592
I remember one story about That Guys where everyone including our narrator just went around being lolrandom murderhobos until the DM got them send to an underground cave prison sans all their gear.
From what I can gather, the game is still ongoing, but the player reports showed that they had to band together, for gangs, and recruit useful people together to help make a society to survive, a complete 180° from their campaign. They make weapons and clothing from scrap, make due with the barest of necessities, and even got someone who knew how to cultivate mushrooms to get them a whole plantation going for useful reagents and food. And this stuff is the barest minimum, miles below all the stuff normal adventurers get. I think the most powerful items any of the characters hava is a rusty iron breastplate and sword.
>>45287239
>make due
It's "make do." As in "this won't do!" "Well, we'll have to make it do, then."
Not that anyone cares
>>45287309
>Not that anyone caresI-I care, anon-senpai
>>45287425
Good, good. Let's get you fitted for a uniform, then.
>>45287309
Americans have shit pronunciation. They make mistakes like this all the time because they're lazy drawling fuckwits who just slur words together vaguely and hope for the best. Even the Midwestern accent suffers this. Don't get me started on Southerners, blacks and New Yorkers.
>>45287716
Show me on the oil field map where the freedom touched you.
>>45287716
>dialectal speech is for subhumans
Yeah well your speech is dialectal to somebody, sport. Pardon me while I take the same attitude and not bother to stop for you in the crosswalk, since you're human garbage for talking a certain way that isn't how I talk.
>>45283255
>Am a monk
>They don't bind my hands and feet
>>45287792
>your captors have cut your hands and feet off lol
>>45287996
>go into Weapon Focus: Headbutt
>break out with help of everyone
>go around the world rallying peasants against the rebellion
>go back to that jail/castle/whatever
>peasant railgun headbutt the head warden
>regenerate my fucking limbs back
>>45287996
>it's just a flesh wound LOLOLOLOL MONTY PYTHON GUIES THE TANGENT TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES
>>45287716
It's okay, Iraq. Just the tip this time, we promise.
>>45283446
>gives no reason for the party to stay together after they escape
They are all chained together.
If anyone in the group strays far enough, they all explode.
One of the characters has promised a share in a treasure if they help him escape.
Come on, get creative.
>>45287239
Exile: escape from the pit rpg
>>45288471
This is something I've actually been considering.
>>45288471
Avernum: Tabletop Edition.
>>45288776
I like the originals better. You can capture soul Erika and garzahd.
Wouldn't casters be the best here?
I mean, most spells DON'T actually require a material component, and wizards don't need their book to actually CAST the spells...
>>45290199
Yeah. Thats one reason I see people shit on this scenario because it screws pure martials even harder than being purely martial already screwed them in terms of value to the party
>>45283725
>the chest is trapped
>all your gear is now on fire
>>45285882
Dafaq?
Yea.
How'd you know?
I seriously can't be the only one that does that?
>>45283255
Did this once after the party spent the night carousing. Was The Hangover: DnD Edition. Good times.
>>45291638
>carousing
>>45283255
>your party wakes up in a jail cell
>"None of you have any of your gear lol"
>a wave of silence passes over the group as they slowly realize what this means
>all turn to the end of the table
>"YUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuusssssssss"
>Little did they know that the last 5 minutes would be the most silence they'd get out of the party monk for the next year.
>>45283456
This. What's the point of CHA when the GM can arbitrarily conjure up a cockblock personality to fuck you over?
>>45291820
Is this not the right word? I think its the right word.
>>45287716
Don't you have some refugees to grovel under, you pathetic yuropoor?
>>45287748
KeK
>>45292948
>Don't you have some refugees to be groped and shot by, you pathetic yuropoor?
FTFY
>>45283356
Spotted the butt-blasted GM who does this shit
>>45287716
You do realize the growth of all living languages are based on its slang and slurring right? You are promoting killing living language.
>>45283255
This is the fucking dream scenario for a PC. They spend all of their lives prepping for this kind of thing and it *never* fucking happens. Those fuckers have fifty ranks in Acrobatics and a Feather Token Tree stuffed into their belly button and they want to god damn use them.
Prison breaks are classic and I don't appreciate you smearing their good name.
>>45292002
It's the right word, he's just being an ass. Fuck him, play Traveller, where Carouse is an actual skill.
>>45283900
70 TPKs guy!
>>45286907
> stop whining
> communicate more
>>45294700
>Prison breaks are classic
You seem to be excusing GM railroading because "He might not be railroading"
HAHA
YOU FUCKERS ALL SAID SOULKNIFE WAS USELESS
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS EXACT SCENARIO
FUCK YOU ALL
>>45294790
You seem to be inventing GM railroading.
>>45283255
>None of you have any of your gear lol
My one and only issue with this is; if the GM was just going to have us start with nothing but the shirts on our PC's backs, why even let us waste 30+ minutes at character creation spent spending our starting gold on starting equipment?
seems like it would have saved everyone time if he had just said right then "hey don't bother with starting gear, you're all going to start in prison with no equipment."
>>45283395
Spell components?
>>45294943
>30+ minutes
This is why I hand players a list of about 15 things and say "pick five entries and add 'em to your sheets."
>This thread full of whiney motherfuckers
Meanwhile the thing I want to do most in a fantasy RPG is prison break.
>>45291000
I like what MGS did, where your gear was trapped and had a bomb in it.
>>45294700
Shit yeah.
>>45295097
Nope.
>>45294776
Seriously, no one else does that?
>>45286794
I had someone threaten to punch me in the face at the gaming table because I didn't want to play 'the best' option. I'm no longer playing with that group.
>>45295587
Yeah, dummies like to talk about "muh Stormwind fallacy" but truth be told, sometimes minmaxing and roleplay do oppose each other.
>>45283255
If you were bested in combat and the enemy didn't want you dead for whatever reason. WHY THE HELL WOULDN'T YOU BE IN A JAIL CELL WITH NO GEAR?
Jesus, crybaby players ruining the fuckin' hobby.
>>45295718
>bested in combat
>no roll needed
>railroading dm
>>45286794
>Minmax
It's not about minmaxing. Horses are just dumb when you could get something cool instead.
>>45295932
Whatever the fuck you get...it won't be in the cell with you.
>>45295943
D-does my lemur get tiny lemur handcuffs?
Oh my god that would be so cute.
>>45283255
Did this once. A Necromancer teamed up with a bunch of ghouls. Ended up slowly replacing the guards, one by one, then taking the prison by force. The Necromancer got all the test subjects they wanted, and the ghouls got a fair amount of food. The Necromancer wasn't expecting the rogue to have a hidden knife. It was actually pretty fun trying to find the right mechanics to let th rogue take the Necromancer hostage while they were ordered to bring the rest of the party (who had already made a previous plan to escape) to the testing room. As soon as the party members were in the room though, rogue coupe de graced the Necros throat and started a 4x3 fight with a bunch of ghouls. Everyone was level 3......
Several fortitude saves later and the party was paralyzed on the ground. 1 ghoul was taken down. But they pretty much just killed the party while they were down.
Bad luck+rolls killed a pretty promising campaign. I actually liked this party, so we restarted several weeks later, this time in an inn. It was rather dull after that.
>>45283255
K.
I'm a monk. In fact, my entire party is monks of one variety or another.
We all piss on our shirts and try to bend the bars while the guards are asleep. If not, we just keep attacking the walls.
>>45296124
>Bunch of PCs pissing on their stuff and attacking the walls
Just imagine being one of the guards.
>>45291546
>I seriously can't be the only one that does that?
No, but that specific list you mentioned there mostly matches your posted stories, as does the group's goal.
So it would be a pretty big coincidence if that wasn't you.
>>45296138
Imagine being one of the guards when one of those monks break down a wall, while the other finally bend the bars and ambush him from behind.
>>45296223
To be fair, it's not very balanced to have 1 guard vs earth and metal benders.
Inb4-avatar, the last airbender joke falls flat.
Actually, now that I think about it. The world of avatar might actually be fun to be play in. Is there any system for this?
>>45296320
There's Avatar World, which is supposed to be decent. At least the Avatar-fags I've talked to seem to like it a lot.
>>45283255
>space marine
problem solved itself
>>45286632
>This is going to be an arc in my supers campaign.
It's about as original in a supers game as saving a princess from a dragon in fantasy.
>>45283255
I'm a Rust Monster/Human hybrid. I'm also rather dumb, so I assume this is breakfast and eat my bars while waiting for the others to eat theirs
>>45284862
>Why would you pick a horse as your animal companion?
So you can get into amusing arguments with the Cavalier over who gets to ride said horse.
>>45283395
I'll take "What are spell components?" for 500.
>>45287716
If you're a britbong, let me now remind you that your nation is the home nation of rhyming slang.
>>45287716
Just goes to show it's a doggy dog world. I cant bear to see such want and misuse of the english language.
>>45283255
I guess we will have to have the fighter punch our way out.
>>45283456
That's fair nobody can serisuly be expected to fall for that.
>>45283660
Eschew materials is the one core feat I ban
Although that's more for thematic reasons a prision break in my games would usualy be out of a basic prision you can just force your way out of or aax security your unlikely to ever escape from.
>>45284862
There's a difrence between a horse you buy and a horse you have as a companion
Nature wants what nature wants anon.
>>45285310
I feel like at this point the fighter is still more useful for auctualy getting out of the cell with there higher strength score.
>>45294762
>carouse is an actual skill
Well, I've been wanting to run sci-fi anyway...
>>45288245
I like most of that but
>peasent railgun
What can mere men do against such reckless fagotry.
>>45290199
Auctualy that's a good point everybody always assumes its the start of the day maybe the wizard still has spells prepared from earlier in the day.
>>45295917
Nobody said that your assuming that got there in a bullshit way
Although to be fair I assume that's what the op was implying.
>>45295932
Druids don't care about cool druids care about there bond with nature.
>>45296511
I was going to make a joke about some chapters lacking the acid spit but I suppose all chapters have the strength to just use force to get out.
>>45283255
What did you do to piss off the guards this time?
>>45283255
Party is 2 monks, a barbarian tavern brawler, a druid and a bladelock.
>>45297482
Mine was just a Priest, a Rabbi and a Master Transmogrifist.
>>45290199
>>45290288
And THEN you have divine casters, who only need to improvise a holy symbol and they have full magic access.
>>45296909
Teleport has no material or somatic components. Verbal only.
>>45297441
>your assuming that got there in a bullshit way
Experience suggests that it's 95% times 'a bullshit way'
Only few parties actually get TPK'd by enemies that would take them alive.
>be DM
>think about BBEG incredibly contrived plans to kill a PC
>fucker just fucking die in a random trap
>>45283255
>be playing 4E
>be swordmage
If they stored our gear within 50' this is going to be hilariously easy. Class ability allows you to summon your weapon from a distance.
>>45290288
Now as much as anon has a point with the wizard possibly already having spells prepared the fighter is still the only one who can easily break down the wall
>modern setting
>guy gets his gun disarmed
>he was 100% invested in ranged combat
>is now completely powerless
Alternatively
>guy gets X magic item dispelled (temporarily)
>his entire build breaks down like a house of cards
Alternatively 2: Reloaded
>one trick pony finds out his thing doesn't work in this specific case
>stands around just waiting for it all to end completely apathetic
>>45283302
>no druidic focus
>>45284008
Yes
>you all start out as slaves on a pirate vessel
>>45298654
Don't need it for wildshape.
>>45284862
Golden Rotation only works on a horse.
>>45284862
We once had a druid whose animal companion was a baboon, it was pretty funny.
>>45283255
>spent months in and out of the game resisting the curse
>everyone in and out of game is now looking at me expectantly
>the beast's face when
>>45283255
>Finally the moving ends and you hear a large crowd as you sit in the darkness. After a minute of hearing keys jangle you hear the lock coming undone
>What hits you next is a flood of sensations. Noise and the smell oh God the smell.
>>45291986
Cha isnt just mind controll.
Convince me that you are a sink with a good argument.
>>45288420
>One of the characters has promised a share in a treasure if they help him escape.
The Mississippi Odyssey was a nice film
>>45283255
How every other RPG has to start by law.
>>45299141
I identify as a bathroom fitting - stop oppressing me, shitlord.
>>45299141
1d20+17
Are you not convinced?
>>45300003
Imagine, if you will, that a charismatic, intelligent person with a prestigious background in their field has come to speak to you about... I don't know... astrophysics.
When they arrive, they try to convince you that because you can prove that the universe is constantly expanding, human beings are made almost entirely of gold.
After they leave, do you:
A) Start chopping people up and paying for your groceries with severed limbs
B) Think they must be insane or have taken a bunch of drugs before coming to see you.
C) Shitpost on /tg/ about how you can convince people you're a sink with a +17 bonus to diplomacy checks
>>45283255
I don't usually play systems where one class or character type is more gear dependent than another.
>>45300116
>diplomacy
Well there's the problem. He should be rolling Bluff.
>>45300206
Or disguise, I take it?
>>45296213
Good eye m8.
>GM: Your blaster hits the grunt in the head and kills him, his head exploding
>You know I was aiming at his leg though, right?
>Yes, but you dealt a lot of damage
>>45301750
Would it really be that much more satisfying if it blasted his leg off and he died instantly from shock?
I mean, I don't mind my GM taking a few liberties.
>>45301827
I would've personally rolled in the critical hits table in a situation where the player obviously doesn't want him killed. Being punished for succeeding feels wrong to me, at least with the table there's a chance of killing the person or not
But that's just what I'd do
>>45283356
This. This is a game about journeys and overcoming obstacles. Not a game of Diablo where you sleep fully armed and armored at all times glowing like the sun with escapism super powers.
A jail cell and no gear? Get out those Unarmed rules. Get that improvised weapon rule out. Time to shake things up.
What? No Material? Well looks like that Feat the Wizard took is finally going to come into its own!
>>45283763
That D&D players feel they're entitled to power and will not deal with consequential results of their actions?
>>45302269
>be big heroes
>captured
>put in a cell
>no gear
>sit here and cry like little bitches
>don't try to escape..
>just cry over our gear
>it was the equipment that was the real hero after all
>>45283255
>You wake up being thrown out of a jail cell
>Your gear is being thrown at you as the guards laugh
>>45302405
Huh. That might actually be an interesting antagonist seed.
A high level monk who goes around and fucks up lower level parties of 'heroes' using a combat style that just totally destroys their equipment or disarms them. Breaking your sword in half, tossing rust monster dust on your armor, throwing the wizards spell book into the lake, etc.
All to make the point that if the only thing that makes you strong is what you are carrying, then you are weak. If you want to save the world, you have to be able to be strong even when all your toys are taken from you.
>>45284008
>You all wake up in the same bed, naked and sweaty
>>45284008
>you wake up next to the tavern keeper on a prison ship
>>45302577
I had four players once, that refused to swim out to a ship, because they were not taking off their armor.
They didn't even 13th warrior.
It was sorta sad.
>>45302591
Hiro Protagonist & Co.: Orgy Raiders
>>45284008
>you wake up as the ship carrying you to your destination is under attack by pirates
>>45284008
My GM likes to start out with 'you all wake up deep underground, in a cavernous forest of mushrooms'. He's really into Underdark shit.
>>45302686
>They didn't even 13th warrior.Almost all of those warriors died, Anon.
>>45283461
Hitman Absolution had a similar scene where two backwater country policemen are examining 47's dual Silverballer handguns modified to hell and beyond - silenced, polished like mirrors, etc. Really liked it.
>>45302943
Heroes sometimes do.
Meanwhile, cowardly little twats live long lives.
>>45283255
sounds like someone's been playing too much elder scrolls
>Wake up in a cell
>I still have all my gear, weapons, and wits about me
I'll get you next time Dr. Quest!
Honestly though anyone who fucking bitches about people taking VERY OBVIOUS precautions for prisoners needs to go back to playing video games and watching animu. Adapt mother fucker. Your your skills, not just your tools!
>not sending the players to a Kwoloon City-like penitentiary where even breaking out is going to be an adventure in itself
Are DMs even trying anymore? Every campaign is frilled with boring ass unoriginal and stereotypical shit.
The only time my gm started a campaign that way, it was pretty badass. We started off all being branded as slaves in a gladiator arena.
The only thing the gm wanted to know about our backstories was "Why have you been condemned to die in a fighting pit?"
The campaign was basically spartacus d&d edition.
>>45283948
Give me a CON saving throw.
>>45302405
>the equipment was the real hero after all
No, it means they weren't heroes to begin with. Just a bunch of punks who curl up and die the moment something goes wrong.
>>45304793
+4 to CON since I'm a Fighter.
Rolled 9 + 4 (1d20 + 4)
>>45305136
Forgot roll like a dumbass.
>>45305158
You succeed in tying your extremely long penis into a noose and slinging it over the rafters of your prison cell.
Tugging on it to make sure it's secure, you climb on to of your upside down chamber pot. You slow your breathing and try to mentally prepare for what comes next.
You jump from the chamber pot and your dick goes taut as the noose tightens around your neck. Your hang there for a few seconds, slowly strangling to death.
Alas, you have not mastered the training required to perform such a feat and despite your substantial girth, your dick tears with a wet ripping noise.
You are now lying on the floor of your cell, in a pool of your own blood. You're not dead yet but you are sans your genitalia.
What do you do next?
Rolled 6 + 1 (1d20 + 1)
>>45305673
I'm going to make a Medicine check to see if I can try and staunch the bleeding.
My first VTM game started like this. I was Tzimice, fleshcrafted a rat into a stake and stabbed jailer in the heart. Forgot to specify that I'd killed the rat. Now owner of pet fleshcrafted stake, have called him ratspike
>>45296213
Speaking of stories...wouldn't TpkGuy be making better use of his time, if he posted more stories, instead of browsing random threads?
>>45301750
That's usually more of a system issue than a GM issue. I don't know the specifics of your situation (or if there even is a specific situation you're talking about), but in a lot of games "aiming at his leg" doesn't do much mechanically.
This reminds me of the D&D thing where you get in a fight with somebody, don't mean to kill him (but don't want to take the penalty to be nonlethal), crit really hard and whoopsie-daisy chop him in half. It just happens in that kind of system, no GM fiat necessary.
>>45307607
Not necessarily, but even in D&D 0 hp doesn't necessarily mean death. I mean, yes, the standard is that people die if they are killed, but it's up to the GM if there must be exceptions in certain situations
>>45307839
Also I'd like to clarify that I didn't get critical damage whatsoever, just a lot of successes in EotE
>>45283255
>Veiled Moon expert in Pathfinder
>Being held by a cell
My character would have slipped the shackles, teleported out of the cell, recovered all her gear, stolen the guards' booze and been back out on the streets within five minutes. Then again, my GM usually only thinks he's clever.
>>45305673
And there goes the chance to scare the hell out of all of the other prisoners in the shower
>>45302269
>Diablo
>sleep
>>45307966
With your 15ft long 5 inch wide cock that could support your full body weight for a few seconds?
>>45307966
Well now there's a giant severed dick hanging from the ceiling. Chance is still strong.
>>45286901
Gurps
Shadowrun
Eclipse Phase
WH 40k to some degree
Base Raiders
WoD wealth background if spent on gear
>>45298605
This. I had a player who made a fighter built entirely around disarming opponents, and he'd start moping and pouting whenever I had them fight something that used natural weapons until he would eventually try to use improved disarm to rip their arms off or something stupid like that.
Seriously dude, why did you even care, the game was background noise for your WoW session anyway.
>>45298605
I had something like this happen to me, except instead of being a whiny bitch about it, I turned my frustrations into my character's and he started trying to find ways to branch out and expand his horizons.
>>45307585
This
I want to read some more of those.
>>45298818
My nigga.
>>45284008
don't forget "fleeing a village torched by BBEG"
that one is worst of all
>>45283255
I'm not a baby, so that's not a problem. In one of the more recent campaigns I played in, our characters got tossed in jail over trumped up charges. Basically, our enemy was using the system against us. So I'm thinking "Cool. A puzzle. Now we just have to devise a way to get out."
But our GM is a notorious softy and within about 5 minutes had handed us several ways to get out, including a powerful ally who came by the window and offered to break the wall down with magic, a sympathetic guard who offered to accidentally leave his keys lying around, and... um... I think somebody discovered that the bars on the window were loose. Added to all of this is the fact that our characters were easily powerful enough to overcome our guards while we were being transported and could probably have busted ourselves out of the cell *and* fought off any guards who tried to stop us from escaping. So it was rather disappointing.
Who gives a shit if you don't have your equipment? Make do without it. I guarantee you that you'll be able to find some more shit to replace it with (assuming you don't quickly have the opportunity to grab your old shit). It's a role-playing game not a collectible adventuring equipment game. Grow the fuck up and stop being a baby. Fucking kids these days expect to have everything handed to them on a platter and throw a tantrum at the slightest sign of real adversity.
>>45302577
Its always nice to obliterate months or years of progress in a single session because you wanted to be a dick.
>>45302577
>Monk BBEG torches a mage's library
>"Who are you now, without your books, wizard?"
>"I'm a sorcerer, dumbass. Empowered Disintegrate."
>>45302577
Wizards don't need their books to cast the spells.
>>45318062
>"Who are you now, without your books, wizard?"
>"I still have my prepared spellls, dumbass. Empowered Disintegrate."
>Wizard picks up his backup books
