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“A strong abyssal force is going to pass through the Sunda Strait in under 48 hours,” you announce.
Admirals Goto and Thomas pause mid-conversation, turning to stare at you like you're insane.
“You know this how?” Thomas asks, giving you a funny look.
“The Algorithm,” Parker says, his haggard look and hollow eyes lending credence to the lofty, echoing words. While they stare at him, looking slightly disturbed, you step forward and flatten out a paper map of the South Pacific. “Look. Abyssals here - bumfuck nowhere - more indicators here - right near the Strait. The Strait of Malacca is locked down tight; the whole thing's one long shooting gallery for coastal artillery. This is the place to pass, if they want to get anywhere.”
“The hell are they going, though?” Thomas asks.
“Does it matter? We've committed 7th fleet to the Iwo operation right now; they'd never get down there in time. If they're aiming to land somewhere sparsely populated, like Mindanao-”
“We could catch them in the Celebes Sea,” Goto points out. “Or the Sulu sea, if they sail west around Indonesia.”
>soon
>20 minutes later
First
“With what? What do we have in the area?” you point out. “Most of our offensive firepower is in 7th fleet, and it's committed. We don't have any NBEs down there because ASEAN would rather tongue-kiss a fucking chainsaw than host Japanese ships at their ports - especially ships of *that* vintage. We need to buy time, and that's the last good choke point to do it at. If we rush a force by air down there now, we might plug that gap with ASEANs help, but something as wide as the Makassar-”
Thomas pauses you with an uplifted palm, frowning. “I see your point Settle, but we don't even know what we're trying to stop. A battlegroup? Carriers? Landing force?”
You swallow. “My suspicion is a landing force.”
“Based on what?”
Based on the freeform interpretation of a fucking lunatic who fancies himself a Viking because he glued horns onto his jar doesn't strike you as something to convince the commander of 7th Fleet, so you try your best to look thoughtful for a moment. “They're coming from the middle of nowhere - maybe not on the surface yet, we don't really know how they get around just yet - but the fleet that attacked us near Iwo had support vessels. Parker's data picked out at *least* twenty vessels, maybe far more - they've always stuck to one, maybe two divisions when they launch coastal raids. This is a lot bigger. I think they'll need logistics for this one, and they'll need to proceed on the surface, like actual ships do.”
Thomas beetles his brows. “That's an awful lot of 'I Think', Settle.”
>>44969659
That's as soon as he can soon.
AMERICAN FAIRIES CONFIRMED FOR CUTE
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/16inch_Triple_Gun_Mount_Mk.7
>>44969686
Fuck that's adorable
>>44969641
>Mindanao
Slightly Concerned Duterte.jpg
>>44969659
>20 minutes isn't "soon" enough
millennial twitter-generation scrub who probably unironically listens to Green Day
Hopefully one of the girls soaks her head in wine. That's supposed to bring good luck according to sailor's superstitions, which we cannot denounce due to the spoopy shit going on with the abyssals. Try everything.
>>44969686
You shake your head. “Why do some of them come back as horrid ugly monsters, and the others come back as creepy-looking, fully-intact hulls? Why do they change form when they close in on our girls, and return to full dimensions when fighting steel ships? They can summon stormclouds and just appear out of nowhere and do all this *insane shit,* so how is it they haven't rolled us up already?”
“They've never attacked in force before,” Thomas replies. “It's just raids.”
“Right. And the first big fleet we see, they're keeping formation, they're toting oilers, they're acting just like we would...” you shake your head. “The ones that go all blobby and monstery... the leveling effect... all of it, all this *weird* shit we struggle with - it's all just window-dressing, in the end. They're spirits. They're *entities.* And they *must* have a hard limit on how much energy they can expend, because if they didn't, we wouldn't have a goddamned chance.”
Thomas thinks on that, his face darkening - a lot of people have thrown a lot of theories around in the last sixteen months, and unsaid, under all the theorycrafting and strategizing and war-planning has been the unspoken dread that there *is* no chance against the abyssals, that they haven't wiped out humanity do to their own inconceivable motives, not because of any inherent balance of force. The existence of shipgirls has been the only counterweight to that, one that balances its entire immense bulk on the fulcrum point of shipgirls themselves going abyssal. You glance at Shigure, her head bowed, hands twisting nervously in her lap, and feel a sudden pang of sadness - shoulders that small should never, ever have to carry a burden like that.
“... continue,” Thomas says at length.
>>44969723
>>44969686
[muffled sounds of angry scrapping]
You point at Shigure. “The first thing they pointed out when shipgirls started strolling into ports was that the abyssals and the girls must have a common origin.” The small destroyer looks up, startled, shrinking closer to Jintsuu. “Obvious conclusion, but the implication's that whatever triggered this... event, it's universal. It doesn't take sides. It's a function of the natural world, just part we don't understand yet. You remember the Stargate project?”
“The movie?”
“No, the CIA project.”
“Well, yeah-”
“They had the same damn problem every psychic they put on TV has. They describe things far too accurately for it to be chance, but without any context to make it useful. Like...” you snap your fingers. “Remember that general or whoever that was kidnapped in the Balkans? They held him in an apartment under a blue tarp for weeks?”
“... vaguely, why?”
“The government spookymen-” you make two antenna with your fingers and waggle them against your forehead - “kept saying he was under a blue tent. Their abilities worked, but we just don't understand the underlying physical principles well enough to develop any meaningful refinement in procedure. We can't make them *operationally* useful.”
“Where are you-”
“But we DO know a few basic laws of the goddamn universe,” you cut off your superior officer brusquely, “ones that seem to be obeyed damn near everywhere, and one of those is, it's impossible to destroy matter or energy, only change its forms. These fuckers can change form really easily, but there is a *limit to how much they can cheat.* And maybe operating in large groups equals a reduction of their ability to just teleport wherever they want, or show up out of thin air, or play their usual fucking games. In fact, it *has* to, because if not, we'd be dead already.”
Thomas considers that.
Briefly.
“Okay. You want to send a force down there. By air?”
“The only real option.”
>>44969703
Pls explain for those of us who don't live on islands
Setting is perfect, dropping on target coordinates.
Also, ArtRage > FreshPaint.
>>44969686
You're pretty cute...
>>44969672
>Based on the freeform interpretation of a fucking lunatic who fancies himself a Viking because he glued horns onto his jar
WELDED YOU FUCK. I WELDED THEM TO PLATES BOLTED TO MY FUCKING POT.
Which is long, long gone, somewhere in some sandy fucking locale. I'm sure you can figure it the fuck out.
“We've got a C-5 on standby for this kind of thing,” Thomas says, “but only one. Given the risk to aircraft and crew *and* Hulls on-board if they, uh, go metallic, the Air Force is only willing to fly so much potential tonnage. You won't have much to work with.”
“At the Sunda Strait, we won't *need* much,” you point out. “But that's our best place to stop them.”
“Right.” Thomas looks at Goto. “I'd give him the go-ahead, but most of what we've got to sling is coming from your roster.”
“I think he's right,” Goto replies. “And in the worst-case scenario, we just turn the C-5 around and bring them back tomorrow, you know?”
Goto pulls out his own tablet computer, and you are soon sitting next to each other, scribbling in memo pads as you go down the list of available shipgirls.
“Takao and co. are out,” Goto grumbles, “but we still have Mogami, Mikuma, Chokai - even Hamp, if he's game.” He checks his numbers. “That'd be most of our tonnage right there, though. We could send a few destroyers to screen them, but that's it.”
“Destroyers are handier in the strait, and the shallows.”
“True,” Goto says, tapping his legal pad nervously. You're both thinking the same thing - hard not to, with Shigure sitting so near - but neither of you want to say it. The Strait will likely be a dusk-to-night battle - much like Guadalcanal, a knife-fight in a phone booth. Those fights are point-blank affairs... and destroyers are fragile. Darkness gives them the best cover to get close and deliver their torpedoes, but escaping again is another matter. The importance of escort screens arises from lethal fish swimming through dark waters - destroyers are for absorbing the initial blows as much as meting them out.
>>44969776
Mindanao, for all its rep as a moro warzone, is considered as the fruit basket of the Philippines. In addition to a lot of untapped resources, it also has very strategic dock facilities (GenSan being one example) that can easily be exploited for a strike to anywhere in the southern areas of Southeast Asia.
That being said, it's probably fairly okay in-universe because of the abyssal threat, but with this assault force coming, it's going to be worse than what the insurgency has done to it.
Losses are endemic to military operations - completely one-sided battles between foes at rough parity are very scarce indeed, in history. It's a lot easier to accept the loss of an asset, or a warship - they rarely go down with all hands, especially in the modern age - but now every pennant number has a face, and a voice, and a *presence* attached.
The sweat chills in the cold blow of the air conditioning vent above you, chilling your neck and sending a shiver down your spine. You blot it away with your sleeve, thinking.
“What about larger ships?”
“Battleships?”
“We've only got Arizona, really,” Goto points out.
“Or Yamato.”
Goto frowns. “The Strait is pretty shallow for battleships - dotted with little islands, too. And she doesn't turn that well to begin with.”
“Unparalleled in a slug-fest, though.”
“Also a great target for torpedoes, there.” He muses. “Arizona's speed won't matter here, she's got superior shell count per salvo, and she's built for brawling. Kongou and her sisters just won't do here; they don't have the armor for it.” Goto sighs. “Plus, we send a battleship... we might squeeze in a few destroyers, and that's it. That's everything. Sure we can't use cruisers?”
“Their armor isn't much better,” you point out. “Not in a slugfest, at those ranges. Hamp doesn't carry torpedoes. Yours do, but they either loose their fish early or risk having them blow their own decks apart in the ensuing gun battle. And they're easier to spot before they're in range.”
Bring the dogs if we have any luck, the indomees are willing to pre mine the straits for you.
>>44969824
Why not airlift the corgis? Betcha they could fuck up troop transports just fine, and are scary in a knife fight.
“They do maneuver well,” Goto counters. “And they've got good firepower, regardless.”
“What about us?”
You and Goto both turn. Jintsuu is leaning in, her expression serious. “Us. Light cruisers.”
“... what about you?”
“We've got a lot more tonnage and reserve buoyancy than a destroyer,” she points out. “We can take a torpedo and actually survive, destroyers almost never can. We sling more guns, heavier ones, we're almost as fast and maneuverable, and you can send more of us than heavy cruisers.”
You and Goto share a glance.
“How much do you displace, again?” you ask.
Jintsuu narrows her eyes. “Are you asking a lady's weight, Admiral?”
“Bout five-thousand tons,” Goto adds.
“ADMIRAL!”
“She does have a point. We've got plenty on hand - they're not as good as destroyers in littorals, not with their handling and sound gear. Kitakami and Oooi, Tenryuu, Tatsuta, Jintsuu here and her sisters - we could put together a pretty handy force with just that.”
[ ] Classic setup - cruisers and destroyers, torpedo/gun line.
[ ] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44969801
NOICE
>>44969877
Oh, so it's another place the Abyss could use to wrest major strategic control of the seas from like Iwo Jima. Wonderful.
>>44969801
>>44969916
>[X] Classic setup - cruisers and destroyers, torpedo/gun line.
>>44969916
>[ ] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
>>44969912
They already have their own ride, anon.
>>44969801
I SQUEALED LIKE A BITCH. That is some VERY nice work, especially the planes in the foreground. Damn nice, anon!
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44969824
>destroyers are for absorbing the initial blows
guess that's why we made exty godzillion of the little shits
RIP metal babbies
>>44969916
>[ ] Classic setup - cruisers and destroyers, torpedo/gun line.
As much as I want to see Yamato in action, Stalin (or Lenin) said it best, "quantity has a quality all it's own."
>>44969916
>[ ]Light Cruiser Bonanza along with Corgi Party
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
Is there any reason we can't send a heavier cruiser like Hamp with them for the heavier shells?
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
I BELIEVE IN YOU WHO BELIEVES IN YOUR NINJA SISTER!
>Seems to be the balanced option
>>44969801
We better do another fucking flag raising with shipgirls.
I can't think of any reason not to go with the classic setup.
Do the abyssals have some special advantage that might be a problem here?
>>44969916
>[ ] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
>>44969947
>They already have their own ride, anon.
oh god, what does he have planned that he isnt telling us
>>44969916
>[X] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza
Prewar doctrine for both the US and Japan was that night battles were CL territory. Let's go with that. And every fucking corgi we can pack onto that plane and still get it off the ground backing them up.
>>44969801
Now THAT is awesome! Fucking saved!
>>44969988
Only shipgirl in position there is Essex. You really want to let HER get that honor?
>>44969916
>Battleships with light cruisers to screen
>>44969947
>They already have their own ride, anon.
yess
>>44969916
>[X] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
>>44969916
>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
if they are eager to roll, let them go.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
Let's go Tenryuu! Go stab something.
>>44969916
>[x] Pick&Mix - Cruisers with Light cruiser escorts and Corgis to fill in the need for torpedoes. also bring Sammy B, she's best at these kinds of fights.
>>44970014
Don't care. I want my publicity stunt. It'll be good for morale.
>>44969916
>[X] Classic setup - cruisers and destroyers, torpedo/gun line.
Unleash the Sendai!
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
And as many PT Boats will fit.
Those shits keep on popping up anyway, might as well get rid of a few of them.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44969916
>[ ]Light Cruiser Bonanza along with Corgi Party
>>44969916
>[ ] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
Only one BB?
I guess we got a bit overoptimistic with how much we could bring, last thread
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
YASEN BAKKKAAAAAA
>>44969918
Not just that.
Control of Mindanao gives the Abyssals ease of access to Sabah. They can strike the oil-rich state in force without much trouble for logistics, because Sabah is literally our backyard.
>>44969801
What squadron is that Rhino from?
>>44969947
>Taguro.jpg
Planefag pls
>>44969916
>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44969916
>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
YA
SEN
>>44969916
[X] My Time To Shine
Light Cruisers are pretty much made for this kind of battle.
>>44970034
If anything, letting battle-weary, but victorious human Marines would probably be better, as they were the ones who were fighting on the ground, and it demonstrates that WE as a species can overcome anything.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
The Sendai Sisters were *built* for this kind of fight.
>>44969916
>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza. PT boats included.
So Japan doesn't have PT boats at all then?
>>44969916
>[X] Classic setup - cruisers and destroyers, torpedo/gun line.
>>44969747
Don't remind me of those whiners who are threatening to quit if one Allied ship appears in the game.Not that they can stop it. The Iowa-class is coming.
>>44970048
Sendai's a light cruiser, mate.
That's why Jintsuu, the Sendai-class girl, suggested using light cruisers. Like herself.
>>44969706
>Using weed smoking as an insult
>>44969641
IT'S TIME
>>44970093
>implying hulls aren't the future of humanityHowever, you're probably right.
>[X] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44970112
They can't stop the FREEDOM any more than they could stop the endless streams of B-29s torching their cities.
>>44970093
I don't doubt for a minute that there are people hashing out how many japs and how many yankees will be raising it for the photoshoot as we speak if not already done
>>44970103
>The Sendai Sisters were *built* for this kind of fight.
Were they actually built well though?
I don't know enough about the ships to know if they actually perform that action as well as their creators intended.
>>44969916
>[X] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44970148
>They can't stop the FREEDOM any more than they could stop the endless streams of B-29s torching their cities.
>>44970111
>>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza. PT boats included.
This, plus Japan had combat barges, which the elimination thereof was one of the PT Boat's main concerns.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
The battle will be decided by torpedoes. So, let's send the Torpedo Lesbians to do their thing.
Also maybe we can get some conventional assets in support? Surely the B52 or B1 has been given a naval strike capability by now, and maybe a nuclear sub or two around Singapore could sprint for the area of operations? Maybe some fighters could be quickly shifted to Indonesian fields for support?
>>44969734
You know how close this is to WWII, when we were second guessing where the Nips are, where the German subs are.
No we do so for Abbyssals and their physiology.
Okay, for those who keep mentioning 'nuke the bastards' (which hasn't come up in this thread yet, but hell with it), the continued existence of Terry means that the Abyssals can play the WMD game far better than we can. Explanation in next post.
If we are using destroyers and CLs we can take a play from the modern play book.
Iirc there are several anchorages in that area that huge container vessels are anchored. We can use them to mask our approach at night and as cover to ambush the abyssal fleet.
>>44970173
>Were they actually built well though?
Were any Japanese ships actually built well? Need I remind you that this is the same navy as the Fatal Seaplane Fetish.
>>44970145
>Go The Fuck to Sleep
Glorious book, I tell ya.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
Also, We need to back them up with a PTcorgie swarm.
>>44970148
Some of the whiners are weeaboos.
Also guys, is there anything the Abyssals could throw at us that might warrant a BB or something other than light cruisers? Either in terms of ships or equipment?
Could the Abyssals counter the torpedoes somehow?
Just throwing this out there in case people smarter than me know the answers.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44970148
>>44970189
>Also maybe we can get some conventional assets in support? Surely the B52 or B1 has been given a naval strike capability by now, and maybe a nuclear sub or two around Singapore could sprint for the area of operations? Maybe some fighters could be quickly shifted to Indonesian fields for support?
You don't have to worry about that. The locals will be bringing their toys to this one too.
>>44970250
Another BB would fuck our day pretty handily if we don't have torps on hand when it shows up
>>44970215
Perfect goddamn book when you're 'asked' to 'watch' Desdiv6 right around 2000.
I got better fucking shit to do. Like see how many noise complaints i can get by hitting the fucking battlewagon range at night.
>>44970154
And Koreans, they were there too, albeit uninvited. They're the ones fighting for Suribachi.
>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44969916
>[ ] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
Also, Corgis
>>44970270
Kagerou a cute
A CUTE
>>44970250
>Also guys, is there anything the Abyssals could throw at us that might warrant a BB or something other than light cruisers?
Not anything that would handle well in confined, shallow, island-dotted straits, no. This is perfect terrain for DDs, CLs and PT boats.
>>44969916
>[ ] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
>groups of MTBs to harass and report on enemy strength and location
>squadrons of destroyers and light cruisers to break up the formation and knock out its escorts
>heavy cruiser division up front to keep enemy destroyers and light cruisers away from the final line
>battleships in the rear, sailing slowly back and forth, pounding everything that comes within range
perfect
>>44970204
Is this a copypasta?
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44970325
Are you a copypasta?
>>44970317
The playbook of Kincaid at Surigao Strait. Ought to give some of the Japanese shipgirls nightmares from their experiences in straits.
>>44970277
>Perfect goddamn book when you're 'asked' to 'watch' Desdiv6 right around 2000.
You watch DesDiv6? Where was sword chan?
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44970270
Planefag, can you give us rough numbers of what assets we can expect from ASEAN?
Also curiously, does the Abyssal situation mean that ASEAN has moved closer to a EU type organisation?
>[X] light cruisers (My time to shine!)
This is not the time for a solid, very hitable wall. This is NIGHT! BATTLE! and we need to be prepared for such.
What we need in this is plenty of manuverability and torpedoes. Having a ship like Yamato or even Arizona will just mean it's easier to hit, and worse, easier to see. And thus, making this ambush into a slugfest. Something we DO NOT NEED.
>[X] CLs, the light is green
>>44970204
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
We are sorely outclassed here. Remember how goddamn interconnected our society is via technology?
Terror and Erebus have a goddamn smartphone (at least, I'm assuming that's what Erebus looted off that dead sailor, given damn near everybody has one nowadays). They could literally record a song, upload it onto Youtube, and make the musical version of The Ring/a lethal [brown note-esque] music video.
Remember how Taylor Swift (or some other big-name music star) uploaded that nine-second-or-some-shit-like-that snip of one of their new albums, and it hit the top of the iTunes leaderboards for downloads within the first day of release? Something like that. Title the video "Half-Life 3 Launch Trailer" to ensure damn near maximum dispersal, with a few seconds of Half-Life soundbytes at the start to actually grab the listener's attention and prevent them from closing the [tab]/[window] right off the bat.
A literal suicide-inducing (or murder-rage inducing) [memetic?] attack. This is a civilization-killing weapon, guys.
More elaboration later.
>>44970371
>implying that can happen
Anon, ASEAN is like the Balkans but with more water and languages.
>>44970173
Pay close attention to Jintsuu's wording- she didn't say they were better armored or anything, just that by being larger than a destroyer they were a bit harder to sink outright.
>>44970317
>>44970350
Unfortunately not a strategy we have the lift capability to pull off for this fight.
Logistics, logistics, logistics.
>>44970317
Don't have the airlift capacity for it. Otherwise, it'd be great.
>>44970014
Carrier raising the flag and getting all the fame while Marines look on glumly.
>>44970371
>>44970396
Hah, good fucking luck doing that to us here.
With the Spratlys issues on, you'd be hard-pressed to see any consensus on seeing the ASEAN adopt the EU form.
>>44970272
I think we're going to have plenty of torpedoes between the CLs and PT boats.
As long as everybody doesn't blow their load at once or something.
>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza / WITH corgi support
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44970394
Oh, you're just the twat who's yelled about how the Abyss can obviously kill us all instantly even though they haven't, so often that planefag mentioned and spoke against the notion in-quest.
>>44970034
Human marines with a carrier bouncing off the side for additional internet lolcatz cute points.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
I can't not push the Tenryuu & Tatsuta button.
>>44970396
I know, I live in this place.
But the one thing that might start the region down that path would be a massive external threat that didn't come from one of the major superpowers that the various countries in the region cozy up to.
>>44970427
>Implying PT Corgis can't into extended foreplay
Rapid reproduction aside, the derps of war can probably hold it in long enough before they release.
>>44970111
Even Canadians have their Newfoundland dogs and geese.
Fun fact I just found
More than 17,000 U.S. Navy sunken ship and aircraft wrecks exist worldwide. The wrecks may represent war graves, harbor state secrets or be of other historical value. The wreck sites may also represent environmental or safety hazards if, for instance, the sunken vessels are leaking oil or contain unexploded ammunition.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
Suitability aside, there's morale concerns. Ships want to fight, and CLs don't get many good chances for that.
>>44970353
Quote unquote "busy" and I made the fucking mistake of not being able to provide a thing I was doing. She popped up pretty fucking quick after one of the gremlins started complaining about a monster in her closet and I handed her a live fucking frag.
>>44970371
>Planefag, can you give us rough numbers of what assets we can expect from ASEAN?
That'll be discussed in more detail in the story posts, but the gist of it here:
You can count on excellent air support from Indonesia (and Malaysian fighters operating from Indonesian bases.) The Indonesians are operating Su-27s/30s from the old naval air base at Surabaya. Thailand and Signapore both possess some pretty modern frigates, and almost all the ASEAN nations operate sizable numbers of corvettes and fast-attack missile boats; all of which will operate quite well in the shallow waters.
>>44970394
If Terror could do this, she would have /already/ done it.
>>44970398
>she didn't say they were better armored or anything, just that by being larger than a destroyer they were a bit harder to sink outright.
Because Japanese Light Cruisers were Destroyer Leaders rather than proper Cruisers. If you look at the Tenryuus, but especially the Kumas and Sendais they're just overgrown destroyers. Same torpedo layout, 5.5" guns in unprotected turrets, no real armor to speak of.
>>44969916
>[ ] Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
I don't trust miss ASW and the other Sendais to do this. You can never go wrong with battlewagons.
>>44970394
>guys guys they can attack us with killer memes
>>44970488
>Giving a girl a Pineapple
Hate
Hate wat r u doin
stahp
You aren't on the Johnston
You aren't Ernest Evans
>>44970394
Uh no. Planefag was pretty explicit in that this Abyssal thing is pretty much a repeat of WW2 where the Abyssals are Japan and the rest of the world is the US.
The Abyssals getting fucked is only a matter of time as the world adjusts to the shit they pulled and begins to outpace them.
>>44970325
Yes, I am copying this from a... different site. One that doesn't have a limit to how many characters one can put into a post.
>>44970394
Congratulations, this has managed to completely and utterly terrify me. I have more goddamn ideas on how this shit could be implemented too - ranging from hijacking, say, the fucking OWN/radio channels, tapping into the underwater communication cables, or - and this is the creepiest one of all - going out, buying a PS4/Xbone/PC, jumping into the most populated multiplayer games (Call of Duty, Halo, Battlefield, CS, TF2, etc.) and beginning to sing over TEAMCOM.
Course, the veteran players are pros at muting their microphones the second something horrible pops up on them, but the noobs/six-year-old squeakers/people like me, who keep the fucking channel open [s]so that they can actually call out shit for their team that don't listen/acknowledge[/s] anyway?
THIS IS THEIR FUCKING COUNTER TO US IF WE DROP NUKES
WE DROP NUKES THEY TURN US INTO FUCKING REAVERS
Uh. FUCK. If we're sending the PT boats along with the CLs, better keep Shigure on land. Last thing she needs is being around the yappy little PTSD-inducing fuckers again so soon.
>>44969916
>Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
GET GUNS!
GET MAD!
>>44970488
Gremlins? DesDiv6? How could you hate the torpedo lolis?
>>44970455
>Essex with stars and stripes in her eyes and her hand over her heart as her guns fire off frame
>>44970270
aren't the locals a bunch of slant eyed dirt scrapers 'flying' leftover soviet garbage held together with prayer beads and jb weld?
maybe the levelling effect will help out.
>>44969672
>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza / WITH corgi support
>>44970520
>Because Japanese Light Cruisers were Destroyer Leaders rather than proper Cruisers.
This, exactly. The old-fashioned "protected cruiser" of the pre-dread era typically displaced around 5,000 tons. Which is roughly what these CLs displaced. American CLs displaced much closer to 10,000 tons, the same amount as their heavy cruisers - the CL/CA dichotomy was more about armament and intended role, not size.
Due to that, however, the CLs can be thought of as Super Destroyers, in certain contexts.
>>44970507
Exactly, the abyssals don't really seem the type to lull someone into a false sense of security. They're more likely to see a weapon pop up, and fling it worth the force of a thousand creeped out girls.
>>44970556
>Send Shigure out to the straits
>Terry and Erry show up and demand Shigure
>"Your princess is in another castle"
>classic setup
>rekt if the enemy has even a few capital ships
>light cruiser bonanza
>rekt if the enemy brings heavy cruisers or battlecruisers
>go big or go home
>powerful battleships armed guns big enough to destroy any potential capital ship attack, armor to take hits, and torpedo defenses that allow them to not fucking explode at the drop of a hat
>each one also basically has a light cruisers worth of secondaries strapped to each side
>supported by DD's that harass enemy attempts at torpedo attack
best option DESU
>>44970520
Mhm. Naka also shouted about being just overweight destroyers before to someone, probably us, a long while back.
>>44969916
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>>44970606
Well, daily reminder that Shoukaku has a twin sister.
>>44970612
The Tenryuus only had about a thousand tons and one more gun compared to a Fubuki
>>44970490
>You can count on excellent air support from Indonesia
fucking what. that air force getting its shit together?
>>44970654
As Naka said to Sendai: Those destroyers...are your REPLACEMENT!"
>>44969801
Dude, which squadron is that Rhino from?
>>44970614
Even better:
>Dress another ship-girl so that she looks like Shigure.
>Surprise attack Terry and Erry when they come for her.
>>44970647
Well duh of course Shoukaku had a sister...it's just that said sister is a turkey.
>>44970436
Not exactly.
There's obviously a reason as to why the Abyssals haven't pulled this shit (outside of author fiat). Maybe they want a 'conventional' (for some degree of the word) victory?
That restriction may damn well be lifted if we pull out our own WMDs.
As I said, they can potentially play the WMD game far better than we could. This is 'drink a glass of water and your enemies die' level of pest control here.
>>44970541
Best part was the look she gave me when I said told her how a true norsewoman *never* backs down, and a sheildmaiden is just as welcome in the line as a brother in arms.
... Pretty sure she'd have gone for it if I'd let her use my axe, too.
>>44970559
They talk too fucking much.
>>44970277
Tenryuu and I read them that book at least once a week to some of the little ones. Shimakaze the hardest one to get to sleep.
And your stalkers has increased since last week.
HA HA
DMM WILL ADD BURGER BOTES
AND THEY WILL BE BETTER THAN YOURS
STAY MEDIOCRE, YOU PIECE OF SHIT
/cool
>>44970488
did they at least frag the monster before the responsible adults arrived?
>>44969916
>[X]Go big or go home - Arizona or Yamato with two/three destroyers to screen.
>>44970697
I was making a joke about Daimo-kun looking like a color-swapped shoukaku, man!
>>44970715
Just wait until they add Britboats.
>>44970627
Yeah, I'm a bit worried that the consensus has moved, but it's not like battlewagons don't have their own weaknesses- like massed destroyers.
>>44970525
Don't bully the muvluvs.
You know what's weird. Maybe the shipgirls going to battle should pour a bottle of wine over their heads. Sailor superstition holds that pouring wine on the deck gives good luck to a ship, and with all the spoopy shit going on, I wouldn't discount anything.
>>44970581
>aren't the locals a bunch of slant eyed dirt scrapers 'flying' leftover soviet garbage held together with prayer beads and jb weld?
Actually, no, they're not. Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore have all conducted joint training exercises with the US, year after year, including big wargames. They're also rapidly modernizing their forces in light of China's aggression.
>>44970730
Not quite.
One of them wants to learn how to fight with an Axe and sword correctly though. So maybe there's hope for them after fucking all.
>>44970544
Ding ding, winner winner turkey dinner.
But our goal is minimal loss while doing it.
>>44970488
So it was YOU who gave her that grenade. I am disappointed Lt. Hate.
You should have let your PT dogs closet first.
>>44970782
Fuck yeah 'Merrica
>>44970761
even a few friendly DD's can seriously fuck up a torpedo attack by an enemy desdiv
>>44970580
The media would be all over this for weeks.
>>44970771
>>44970700
Except we've already tried nukes, so your (or whoever wrote this silliness) tinfoil hatting is blatantly incorrect. The WMD cat is already out of the bag.
"We've hit the Rift with nukes before" has been mentioned by Planefag himself in reference to this, unless my memory is mistaken. Which it might be, but eh. Point is that the theory's wrong.
Huh I'm surprised that hagshipposter hasn't posted their old ship yet.
>>44970804
woo, FREEDOM
>>44970804
Clownpiece will make 2hu great again
Can we expect assets from China in the air? Medium range torpedo bombers?
>>44970805
They can, but it's still the biggest vulnerability in this situation
>>44970830
its referencing a fucking movie, not the quest
>>44970851
Worst sodak drawing pls go
>[ ] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza + pt boates
Seems like the best option considering our tonnage restrictions. My only concern is that some of the Japanese CL's aren't really much more than glorified destroyers.
>>44970782
Yea but this is an air force that had readiness levels of a number of its assets at almost nil.
I'm just having abit of trouble seeing them modernising their force in such a short time but i guess thats wartime fire under the ass for you.
>>44970830
It's a reference mate.
There's no 'rift' in KCQ
>>44970873
Get your homework done bitch.
>>44970887
thats a good thing anon, it means more torpedoes
>>44970490
Singapore has a squadron of these, the SH-60s are for ASW. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Fayette-class_frigate
>>44970873
Even worse than the cowtits one?
>>44970867
>implying I haven't seen Pacific Rim and don't know the source of the quote
Really?
>>44970867
Official Planefag Statement:
"Shut up about the fucking nukes already asshole jesus christ thanks."
>>44969992
>Those hips.
>>44970782
>China's aggression
What? Protecting it's territorial waters is considered aggression now?
>>44970761
>Yeah, I'm a bit worried that the consensus has moved, but it's not like battlewagons don't have their own weaknesses- like massed destroyers.
It's not like we aren't asking for problems with the vote.
If you know of weaknesses in the plans you need to speak up, sooner rather than later preferably.
So if the Abyssals bring a truckload of DDs, how would that be best dealt with?
>>44970915
That IS the cowtits design.
>>44970860
but anon, everything's vulnerable to fucking torpedo spam
>>44970912
I know all about them, anon.
Only reason I'd suggest Arizona would be if she was parked at the under end of the strait with the T already crossed
>>44970902
I've been reading the same quest. I know what the quote is from, separately. It was used in a non-story post to reference the use of nukes prior to the quest. Again, unless I misunderstood what PF was getting at, but I don't know what other reason the reference would have shown up for.
>>44970930
>>44970668
For a while now, they even got late block F-16s too. They just have too few aircraft for the amount of territory they have.
>>44970930
Dredging up artificial islands, planting a Chinese flag on them, then waving guns at anyone that comes near is aggressive, yes.
>>44970820
...unless that's bag-brewed Lipton, that is SO out of character it's not even funny.
>>44970927
Wo has got it going on.
>Let's nuke the Abyssals
Have you forgotten Operation Fucking Crossroads? The big dick-waving exercise by the Air Force to prove "we don't need to stiiinking Navy" in the age of nuclear power Notice how the Navy still exists?
Yeah, nuking fleets isn't all that effective, and that's for surface fleets crewed by squishy meatbags, not eldritch fleets that can dive to minimise blast effects and prompt radiation and are crewed by who-the-hell-knows-what-if-anything.
>>44970902
We don't know that. We don't know anything about the Abyssal's main base, really.
I don't think there is a "rift", but let's not say anything that isn't verified.
>>44970927
Dem Muscels
>>44970930
>territorial waters
>>44970932
No, there's one out there that has tits the size of goddamn bowling balls. That one isn't that bad by comparison.
>>44970930
Just because the South China sea has "China" in it doesn't mean they can claim the entire sea as territorial waters.
>>44970933
Exactly. Which is why we want to be the ones bringing the torp spam with CL's and PT boats.
>>44970926
Losing your patience, friend?
>>44970873
shit taste
>>44969916
>[X] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
>Everyone going for oversized destroyers
This will go horribly.
KTKM would have a chance of doing something useful, but the Sendais are worth less than its scrap.
>[x] My Time To Shine - Light Cruiser bonanza.
Woooo night battle!
Also, give them NVGs to wear so they don't have to use their damn spot lights
>>44970873
>He doesn't know what good artwork is
>>44970784
I am sure my sister is more than able and willing to teach the young ones the ways of the sword. But an axe is an undignified weapon for a young girl. I say a spear is a much better weapon for them.
>>44970970
To be fair, naval territory is somewhat of a gong show.
For instance, the Northwest passage runs through the islands that is Canadian territory. But other nations decided that the sea between islands are not Canadian.
Chinese do have some historical claims on these lands, as do others.
>>44970987
>>44970965
>serious replies
THERE'S A FUCKING HOOK IN THE GODDAMN POST, HOW DENSE ARE YOU
>>44970873
Sounds like butthurt anon.
>>44970931
There's going to be weaknesses in any plan we do just because of our transport limitations. Our allies and our trump card can counterweigh those weaknesses somewhat. With how little we know, I can't think of a 'best' option here
>>44970974
I'll clarify to 'there's no rift that we know about'
VOTES CALLED - COUNTING
>>44970873
Mmm yeah, nah, that's much better than the other one
>>44970507
Ah. Okay. Thanks for the clarification.
Whew.
>>44970531
Aye, that was my reaction at first... before it sunk in just how goddamn scary that shit would be.
Any civilization with widespread communication technologies would be at risk of instant indoctrination.
But that's water under the bridge now. Thanks for the clarification, Melpomene.
>>44970544
It is always wise to keep one's mind open to all potential possibilities. Becoming fixated on a single target or objective often blinds one to potential changes in the current theater of operations.
(TL;DR, other GMs have pulled 'WMDs fall all friendlies die' tricks before when victory seemed assured.)
>>44970988
the problem is that if the torpedo spam doesn't work, the DD's are fucked
One thing we need is to get more of those radar antenna thingies we let arizona and kongou try.
Give the CLs radar.
>>44970873
Finish your homework Shipper.
>>44970973
This really, the only thing an air burst nuke (Which is what all modern nukes are) would do to an abyssal is a lot of surface damage and irradiate it... and Abyssals don't have conventional crews that you can microwave to death.
It might take out a few turrets and damage the ships but it won't sink anything heavier than a frigate.
>>44970985
this one?
>>44970557
>Settle's face every day since LA
>>44970613
Pretty much. Their MO is "use everything we have our hands on now, hold nothing in reserve".
>>44971021
>>44970784
Personally, I wonder what opinion the two of you would have on them learning to properly use a chainsword...
>>44971042
But we aren't bringing DD's, we're bringing CL's.
>>44971054
Coursework actually. And it's done.
>>44971023
>Chinese do have some historical claims on these lands
"EVERYTHING THE LIGHT TOUCHES IS OUR KINGDOM."
"BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT SHADOWY PLACE OVER THERE, DADDY?"
"THAT IS MINDANAO, SON. YOU MUST NEVER GO THERE."
>>44971050
THIS IS AN EXTREMELY GOOD POINT AND SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO
Come on techheads, earn your keep
>>44971050
>Radars for CLs in a night battle.
I am for this anon. It will be a slaughter. And no one to turn their search light on all the time either.
>>44971072
Yep.
>>44971050
You're onto something here.
>>44970973
>Nagato nuked twice
>would probably work fine, if it weren't for the radiation
>thrown off balance by the blast wave, can't damage control because no crew
>slowly sinks
Nukes suck
>>44970830
>"We've hit the Rift with nukes before" has been mentioned by Planefag himself in reference to this, unless my memory is mistaken. Which it might be, but eh. Point is that the theory's wrong.
That is not referring to this story.
I think it was meant in the sence that "we nuked it before we can nuke it again".
>>44970973
Nuking fleets is effective, just not extremely effective.
Also diving to minimize the effects? How damaging is an underwater nuclear blasts to other ships/subs underwater?
>>44971050
>Give the CLs radar.
Can we do this, Planefag?
I think we didn't give enough time to the whole idea of upgrading our ship girls, especially in Naka's case.
>>44970972
>>44971087
>>44971080
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS
>>44971050
Yes. RADAR MASTER RACE.
>>44971080
You build me one, I'll be first in line to fucking use it.
Though I'd rather have a fucking chainaxe.
>>44970985
Literally the same design.
>>44971082
>CL's that are slower than DD's, bigger than DD's, have the same amount of armor (none), no torpedo defense, and only slightly better guns
hurrr
>>44971080
I would reject it.Give them training in bolter guns and force weapons instead
Let's hope they at least sink Jintsuu so something good comes out of this.
>>44971112
>I think it was meant in the sence that "we nuked it before we can nuke it again".
I can't agree - its only real use is to express ZE WARHEADS, ZEY DO NOTHING regarding nukes vs Abyssals. So a reference to the futility of trying more as things stand. We stopped because they weren't working.
>>44971109
That's an interesting point.
What effect would nukes have on the fairies inside the Abyssals?
AFAIK we put animals on the ships for Crossroads, but I don't remember any information about how they were affected by the blast or radiation.
>>44971042
The idea is that CL's will be able to tank a hit or two while still being pretty fast and bringing loadsa torps - while PT boats strike like wraiths in the night and rek anything that enters the littorals
>>44971135
Space Marine Kongou when
>>44971050
fucking genius
>>44971023
Oh for just one time, I would take the Northwest passage, to find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort sea.
>>44971050
T H I S
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>>44970973
>>44971109
There's a part of me that's willing to bet that a modern nuclear weapon with a yield many times higher than that of a 40's era nuke would have a much larger impact. literally and figuratively.
>>44971153
Khornate heathen.
>>44970531
>>44971153
How about chainsaw bayonet to go with your naval artillery gun?
