Aaayyyy /tg/
Lets get a civ General rolling
(Thanks to Sleep_drawfag for our new copy pasta for General, AND for these cool cards!)
Previously people wished to suggest more random event cards but it turns out many interested Anons do not have the source for the existing ones. There is an imgur gallery that has all the 45 cards I made and also a small selection of hands to draw from as a fluff picture.
Cards
>http://imgur.com/a/xtYLp#0
Cardback and draw
>http://imgur.com/a/dPcrN#0
>Guidelines for recommending event cards:
- Non-specific - Try to make them open ended and not tied to a specific race/location/other event etc. remember that there is no system behind them they are there as sparks of ideas for CMs. Do not go "You find X amount of gold in random treasure chest."
- Reasonable - They should not change the game significantly to interfere with the CM's work, they should aid the CM's work.
- Copypasta - Before you suggest one please review the already existing ones. While completely avoiding duplication is not possible, as I already have several, but try to keep from straight duplication of existing ones. Like in the future we can have "hunting season" and "the great hunt" or "tornado" and "hurricane" but right now there isn't really any great difference between them.
NOTE: Just to make it clear this isn't for art requests, there is no guarantee that your suggestion will be created. All I can do right now is to note them down and add them to my (pretty long)to do list. Keep it in mind that I might not be able to do draw it at all, either because I lack the skills or because I disagree with the idea. Discussion about suggestion/ideas in the thread
>>44938048
>>44939950
>Thanks to Sleep_drawfag for our new copy pasta for General, AND for these cool cards!)
Don't thank me, that was not meant for master posting, like the guidelines of event cards aren't merit anything. Plus there is still content out there that is still missing.Tfw people don't even bother spelling your name out while talking about you. ;_;
>>44941186
I need to learn how to draw so I can make some cards too.
Who else is excited for Homunculus Civilization Quest?
>>44941654
>>44820529
>>44941654
Yee
>>44942995
What the fuck is this shit, that is some of the dumbest looking armor I've ever sen
>>44941304
Or you could just find suitable pic on the internet and add text to them, much easier and you get better results than my art (or yours.)
>>44943492
But your art is really nice.
>>44943492
>(or yours.)
>>44941654
>>44942364
>>44943279
>Who else is excited for Homunculus Civilization Quest?
Hype, hype, hype!
Remember: Tomorrow, Saturday, at 4pm mountain Canadian standard time!
We've got at least one chicken to memorialize into our small shrine.
An Otyugh egg case in our Aquarium to take care of.
And the rest of the Tower floor to scout out in search of genetic material and other resources.
Adventure!
Body Horror!
>>44945570
What time was it again?
>>44946206
ADVENTURE TIME!
>>44945570
man you and Grave/Jyoti running at the same time, I can't wait
How do I become as good at them at the civilizations?
>>44946694
Look through Civilization threads in the archives.
Just ignore the Myrm threads.
>>44946786
What is a Myrm thread?
>>44946846
It is this: >>44941086
>>44947976
I don't get it.
>>44948872
Exactly.
>>44948951
Explain.
>>44949009
There is no structure. Its just 'hey, look, its abstract. It's cool and weird.'
>>44949108
What's wrong with that?
>>44949759
If there is no structure, it can't hold up.
Lets use that chart real quick.
Tikifowl in Mindscape.
What do they eat?
What kind of food do you find in a mindscape?
What kind of housing the Tikifowl have? Do they nest, like Harpies? Do they live underground? Do they even need houses?
What are they good at? What are they bad at?
How about Basphirark?
What do they do they do? How do they function?
No one has any idea, because the chart doesn't tell us.
>>44949909
>What do they eat? What kind of food do you find in a mindscape?
Memories... ;_;
>What kind of housing the Tikifowl have? Do they nest, like Harpies?
They look like birds, so they either live in nests or surreal cuckoo clocks.
>What are they good at?
Telling time. ;)
>How about Basphirark? What do they do they do? How do they function?
It says they are "the light of people who don't have wings in heaven", so I assume they are some kind of beacon for non-angelic souls.
>No one has any idea, because the chart doesn't tell us.
Neither does >>44940145 .
>>44950155
If you are so dead set on an abstract civ, then go run one
>>44950236
I'm busy working on creepy civilizations, so I don't have time for Myrmidon's stuff.
>>44950288
I like the demon the best.
>>44950288
I'm looking at >>44946694 and >>44950155, and if you went through the trouble to answer each question, were you really asking for advice on how to run a civ?
>>44950967
It's all been Myrm talking about himself. Does this every general
>>44950967
>trouble
It was a few questions that only needed one sentence responses... People can't actually be that lazy, can they?
>>44951202
then answer me this: WHY did you answer the questions? For what purpose and whose sake did you do so? Is it the same purpose that you originally set out to accomplish?
>>44951287
Because I was bored and I wanted to discuss quests.
>>44951423
then there's no further point speaking to you
>>44951483
Why?
>>44950843
The skeleton is better.
>>44951509
myrm's chart makes people really butthurt
>>44953323
But why does it do that? It's just a picture.
>>44953407
Yes, but it's a shitty picture that he spent months shoving down the throats of everyone here. It may just be a picture, but it has baggage.
And of course that's not even mentioning his rapid downward spiral from a niche CM to a widely hated shitposter all because he would ask for advice and then badmouth anyone and everyone that didn't agree he was perfect.
If you don't hate him, you haven't been here long enough to know him.
>>44953548
I second that motion
>>44953548
That seems a bit unwarranted over a little chart.
>>44954192
Not that anon but the person who's been pimping that chart for... what, over a year now? is a total cunt.
Yes, by itself it's just a retarded nonsense chart, but context is everything, anon.
Any good thoughts on how a Were Civ would start out in a Ruin?
1: were's have always been in the ruin, but infighting and lack of leadership has allowed the ruins in which they live to be little more than a no-man's land or a bandit haven.
2: Individuals from various backgrounds, cities and such have all been dumped due to their new found were symptoms.
3: Small group has run away from society to make their own because of judgment or torment.
4: Party or trade caravan is out on a journey when they are bitten, causing them to need to form their own society.
5: Cult in the ruin praying to a god was blessed with lycanthrope. Now they plan on becoming their own civ.
Thoughts? Any good suggestions?
>>44954312
Maybe I should attempt one of the races to see if it can be done.
Which one do you think would be most popular?
Brachinel looks like an Inevitable from the plane of Law, so it should catch some followers.
>>44954335
I like number five.
>>44954335
>>44954379
A mix of number five and number one.
>>44954372
>Maybe I should attempt one of the races to see if it can be done.
it's been done. Some were Okay. Some were Not. Just like with any other chart.
>>44954468
Then that means I am sure to succeed!
>>44954518
Yes, in the same way I can be sure that an apple will fall when I throw it in the air. I am right, but nobody would really say I did anything of note.
But if that's what it takes to convince you to run a civ, go ahead.
>>44954592
What could go wrong?
>>44954843
The apple hits you in the face, and people ask you "What were you expecting?".
>>44954335
The ruins were once their capital city. Some foul dark magic destroyed this once noble kingdom and turned its inhabitants into mindless monstrosities. It's not really known what exactly happened, that's part of the plot to discover (and avenge). Over the centuries the remaining monsters began to experience a change. The curse waned in strength. They were able to shift back to their original form sometimes, and their mind was once again theirs, and not just filled with primal animalistic instinct. Now they are regrouping and rebuilding, and finding out what happened.
r8
>>44954372
You are still not getting the point here. The picture itself doesn't bother people. What bothers people is that Myrm always reposts it and even posts troll posts praising his own work and when someone says anything critical about it he gets triggered and goes rabid defensive mode claiming everyone else beside him is an uncreative pleb that cannot understand his work that requires higher intellect or something. Which does nothing but fills civ general threads with Skub arguments that nobody likes. But then claims that everyone else it at fault and he is the marty of creativity that get shit flinged on by the dirty uncultured masses. While he did like one attempt at an abstract civ where he did absolutely nothing but write vague short posts and wait for the players to suggest stuff to happen which unfortunately died pretty fast.
Why is this bad?
>random person sees civ thread general
>he is interested
>looks into thread
>sees shitposting, and arguments over things he doesn't even understand/know about
>thinks this community is shit and leaves
This is the problem, filling civ general with pointless arguments helps nobody and it makes us look like retards. Heck at this point I am inclined believe that Myrm (or whoever) that repeatedly does this only does it for shitposting's sake.
>>44954881
I am getting confused by these fruit-based metaphors.
>>44954943
Give us a quick sample of your prose. Execution is everything.
>>44954982
fine by me. You could get it, and understand, or not get it, run your civ, and then you'll understand.
You could also just ASK, but it's true that sometimes anons disappear for hours at a time before answering. We aren't here forever.I'm just lazy right now
>>44954943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH16531Ny_s
>>44954943
I would play that. Sounds fun
>>44954967
>Heck at this point I am inclined believe that Myrm (or whoever) that repeatedly does this only does it for shitposting's sake.
No, I'm just trying to raise the bar a bit on the quality around here.
>>44954335
There was once a prosperous city high in the mountains that grew rich off their high quality quarries and timber from thick bountiful forests. The city grew powerful and rich and that attracted the attention of a conquering army.
Unable to turn back the invaders fueled by dark magics with forces bolstered by undead or demonic minions the populace turned in desperation to a suddenly arrived prophet. They preached that should the populace agree to the price of their unknown god they would be given power enough to defeat their attackers.
The offer weighed heavy on them as the siege wore on until finally, as the invaders were scaling the walls for one last push, they accepted the bargain.
The moon hung heavy that night, turning a crimson red as the populace were overcome with a newfound strength and power. This change came at a price though, their bodies and minds becoming bestial and inhuman. The populace of the city surged forth, a tide of fanged and furred vengeance that tore the attacking armies to pieces in a night of bloody hunting.
The God of the Hunt was pleased with his new pack. The populace of the city returning to their ruined city, their minds broken and simple. Several generations later their descendants have begun to be born in the forms of their uncorrupted ancestors but with age they unlock the ability to shift into the forms of their monstrous parents.
Now with newfound intelligence they are directed by the God of the Hunt to rebuild their ancient home and stake their claim on the world.
>>44954991
Largely depends on >>44954335 's writing skills. The setting is in essence mystery post-apoc at the beginning.
You knew nothing but hunger and rage, clouded by primal instincts, slowly but surely over the generations, over the years, the fog slowly lifted. Reason has once again claimed a foothold in your mind. Your deformed cursed body reverted back to its original self - for a time. You remember... these ruins.. they echo a story of glory, of tragedy. This was once the center of a noble kingdom. Commerce and works of art, politics and scholarship. You were at the height of the world.. then dragged down screaming, tearing, gnawing.. howling. You shredded your own people and devolved into werebeasts. Was it.. a war? A divine retribution for decadence? Betrayal? You're not sure. But there's a time and place for everything. The journey of a thousand steps begins with the first one, and you must rebuild these ruins, and redeem your people.
You have 200 people, who can transform to werebeasts at will. The countryside and the ruins themselves are still haunted by your cursed, misguided brethren. You must save those you can, and put down those you can't. They will not hesitate to rip your throats. Reclaim your glory, unearth the past, and show those who stand in your way that even a curse can turn to a blessing.
>>44955020
And in doing so, you draw it down further.
>>44955306
Not familiar with it. Is it good?
>>44955020
Being a narcissist and imaging yourself to be holier than everyone else does not do that. Especially since you have nothing to back up your ridicules claims.
>>44955439
I haven't tried it. I mostly play the New World of Darkness.
>>44955020
It's about time somebody did.
>>44940145
>>44959954
What is this garbage?
>>44960293
The average civilization quest.
the hype for homunculus civ is real, i really thought that cyclopsOP was gone forever
its 5pm mountain time right?thats in like 4-5 hours correct?
>>44946206
6pm EST
>>44960624
I think it's supposed to run at the same time as Jyoti/Graves quest. They live in the same timezone I'm pretty sure
>>44961329
We need to start cataloging the writing styles of our favorite civilization quest tellers, so that when they die we can make story generators based on their works.
>>44961393
Just ignore him. If he wants to talk to him self, let him.
Been talking to SlowCM and he says he plans to return to running his Tundra Giant civ once he gets freetime once more.
A sister branch of his work shut down temporarily, meaning that he's having to work his days off that he was planning to use to run.
>>44961329
eh im more favoring jyoti's ghouls...i skip the other one other than browsing
>>44961442
i was thinking of stealing CyclopsOps' writing style/civ style and putting my spin on it....although im not sure how to start it...and people also think drow are fetish-bait (im not against smut but it shouldnt be 90% of the civ) For example i think cyclopsOP does smut very well (not too overwhelming but very realistic in how he does it)
>>44961985
Are you still so bitter about Jyoti's quests? That's gotta be horribly insulting to him.
Damn dude you need to let things go. Wonder if he hasn't returned to Ghouls yet because of it.
Weren't you the one like 40+ threads in who said you didn't pay attention to the passage of time in the quest, a very VERY important part of it? Like I think it was you who kept complaining about how the Radiant Ghoul research was taking forever despite it progressing at normal speed?
>>44961985
Did you really have to insult his quest even though there was no point to it?
It was just me saying they run at the same time. Hence why my saturdays are going to disappear
Just 1 hour and 12 minutes!
>>44963255
till?
>>44963551
IT BEGINS
>>44963551
Homunculus Civilization Quest
>>44963551
>>44964122
>>44964132
Just 20 minutes!
>>44945570
Just one hour to go mates. GET HYPE
>>44964827
Help! I'm overstimulated.
>>44964827
My erection is massive
>>44965455Can I see it? Haha.
>>44962118
>>44962782
theres a difference between being a fan and dickriding, i dont think hes insulted and he really shouldnt be...i like him as a person and as a CM, not to mention he definitely skipped the research for like 2-3 threads, from what i remember (which is ok its his story we're just players in it) i know he doesnt mind when people speak their minds, so you guys shouldnt either
>>44967819
This looks whimsical.
>>44968804
Myrm made a thread for it but it was cancer and died.
>>44968887
What was wrong?
>>44968971
Basically he just posted vague nonsense or poems.
>>44969034
Link?
>>44969433
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43931463/#q43931463
>>44969821
I don't get what's wrong with it...
>>44970838
Who?
>>44970956
Not that anon, but it's kind of obvious to tell it's you from how sparse your replies are. You suck at pretending to be ignorant.
An honestly curious person would elaborate on how they feel on the topic, and do a bit of research to form their own opinion, volunteering it as a show of good faith instead of asking to be spoonfed.
>>44969034
>>44969433
>>44969821
>>44970691
>>44970956
literally bait, please stop and just bump instead of shitposting
thanks
>>44971106
Conversation isn't shitposting.
>>44971127
I wish more people understood that.
>>44971646
and the valiant Myrm, so self-assured that he is in the right, has fallen to samefagging to grant his voice the strength it needs to convince himself that he is actually right.
>>44971913
Again, who?
>>44973141
If you are board anon, we got a good thread going over here
>>44967963
>>44973312
I'm reading it. It's getting a bit too lewd for me.
>>44973393Same, I've basically stopped voting on my own. It wasn't arousing, quite the opposite.
>>44973650
Trying out some new things here.
>>44973455
Its body horror. Its not suppose to be.
>>44973857
tell that to the other anons
>>44973857
Giant breasts are not body horror; they are fetish bait.
>>44974166
Can be both, depending on how you view it. Sure they have big boobs, but they still look like godamn monsters
>>44974255
They look like sex gynoids.
>>44974445
Exactly, that's what they were built for, because our master was a perverted wizard. and we need to grow to be more than the slaves and sex toys of a dead man. We need to become our own people. Not just an echo.
But its going to take time. It may seem overly fetishistic, and it may attract undesirables, but we can make something out of this.
>>44974530
We just need to discourage any weirdos.
>>44976079
Exactly!
And we are getting somewhere! We got a soul!
>>44977322
Now, let's support >>44973650 since Homonculi Civilization Quest has finished for the week.
>>44979127
Ah, yes. I remember the meeting of the New Orioleans Council with Brachium Rex during the squid migration of nineteen dickety-two.
Those were good times.
>>44977578
Nah
>>44979581
Why not? It's a good one so far.
How do I make the game mechanically interesting?
>>44979998
experiment.steal.ask others what is fun. ask YOURSELF what is fun.
>>44980025
Yeah, but I'm bad at math. That's why I asked.
>>44979998
Only thing that matters is good story writing skills. You can also make things more care free with tech being a 1 or 2 turn thing, so you reach the modern age in ~5 threads.
>>44979998
Prepare a weather system. Weather is a huge deal in real life. It destroys crops, ruins infrastructure, and slows industry.
Every x turns you should be rolling for the severity of the weather.
>>44979998
>>44980076
then don't use math-intensive mechanics?
odd, I can't seem to post WITHOUT an image. it treats "no file" as too large
>>44980214
But all the interesting stuff requires math and/or bookkeeping.
>>44980339
what do you define as "interesting"?
>>44980371
Events, racial bonuses, cultural bonuses, environmental effects, calendrical systems, oddball dice mechanics...
>>44980302
Close and open your browser completely, no lingering windows. Delete cache and cookies.
>>44980434
nope, didn't work. restarting comp AGAIN, even though I think restarting is the cause.
>>44980700
test
>>44980897
hope that's dealt with.
In other news, firefox has an official 64-bit version now, you don't need to patz about with experimental Nightly.
>>44980423
scale back a bit: these are concepts that you think are interesting. What about them do you find interesting? What is common to them, or otherwise commonly UNCOMMON between them?
>>44980959
>What about them do you find interesting?
They provide an ongoing world that continues indifferently to the inhabitants.
Working on a personal version, but I'm looking for perks for a few races. Haven't added some weaknesses yet, and I'll probably decide to make mandatory adaptability for all races to choose extra perks and disabilities from the list to make things more interesting.
http://pastebin.com/iJ6nEWBF
Got any perk suggestions? Only concrete things. No "fear of heights" or "rape victims". Preferably something general enough that could apply to at least another race. My problem is with Mycenae, Humunculi, Cyclops, Gnomes and maybe Bullywugs and humans.
>>44981165
I think Reptile Folk and Bullywugs should be susceptible to cold.
>>44981033
okay, NOW we can move onto >>44980423
that is, what are ways we can "provide an ongoing world that continues indifferently to the inhabitants."?
You've given some examples, but don't forget to brainstorm some more now that you've defined what it is you're looking for, and look to other media for more ideas.
The next step is to pick one of these examples, and figure out if there's a way to represent it in easy to work with mechanics. For example:
>Events
that's actually rather simple, because of all the event cards that Sleepy_drawfag made for us. Make a table(or wait for someone else to do it) that connects each card name to proper dice values.
Or, if you want some physical goodies, print out the cards and shuffle them yourself.
The point is to balance what will accomplish the goal you placed with what is practical and easy/convenient to actually do. If you narrow things down to a smaller scope, you can ask other anons here about it. Even better if you already have some ideas to bounce off of them.
>>44981239
True I've been toying with that, but it feels a bit off to me somehow that swamp creatures and amphibians that live underwater need heat so much and despise cold.
>>44981165
hangon, I should still have that googledocs link here....
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VrRN5onpqE54WOOGWj9GEiNr-myFZJiWMgYji4GSDJc/edit
>>44981285
http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2013/08/21/how-the-alaska-wood-frog-survives-being-frozen/
>>44981308
Thanks, reading through it. I've currently completely omitted culture values as I have zero idea how to implement it except by whim "yeah let's say that nearest foreign village joins them now because they built pretty shit" whenever I feel like it.
>>44981308
Hey Crog, didn't think this was still an active project.
Harpy Civilization has returned after its intermission: >>44973650
>>44981446It isn't.
But hey, what's done is still useful to some people!
>>44981464
I added some dumb bull shit here and there
I'M HELPING
>>44981669
YES. GOOD.At some point, I should dissect it to make a new googledocs that I can do the formatting for, but that day is not this day!
>>44981744
Why do today what you can put of till tomorrow?
>>44981319
But.. that gives them cold immunity!
>Natural swimmers
>Amphibian
>Weak to cold
You have 10 seconds to explain this bullshit
So, I assume it wouldn't be advisable to run a Civ right at this moment for lack of players?
When would people say is peak time? I know Saturday Night seems to be the absolute peak, but it'd be helpful to know which time-zones most players are in.
>>44984009
About 65-75% of traffic is in the American time zone, like all of 4chan. But Europe time deserves love too you bastard
>>44984018
I am aware. I am a Europe. I fear the possibility of starting a Civ and not having players.
>>44984032
So worst case scenario it's abandoned
>>44984009
I've been on and off several times today alone. Between am unpopular timezone and having stuff to do, i can't really give an estimate for my hours
Alright. I'm gonna go for a walk and get back in an hour or two. Maybe then people in EST will be waking up, or at the point of being bored in work.
I'd love to run a RP civ, with the players being people within the civilization, like the Machine Civ with the Thought Nodes, or that one Gremlin Civ.
>>44984077
A player council again huh? Largely depends on the race chosen, fellow node
I'm back from my walk. Gonna have a shower and eat then see how many people are here and willing to play.
>>44981873
It just goes to show that nature tends to provide exceptions to the general case.
Does anyone else use flags for their civilizations?
>>44988247
I was always trying ot think of an appropriate flag or symbol for the Red Throat but nothing really stuck
>>44987501
There's no exception. Amphibians don't suffer from cold. Cold blooded can also mean high resistance to cold.
I suppose they can swim while the sun is shining on them during spring or summer. Anything else will get them killed.
Should I run a civilization today? They always seem so barren on Sundays.
>>44990976
If by today you mean in 9 hours, then yes.
>>44990976
What did you want to run
>>44991046
>>44991013
What would people be interested in?
>>44991062
Just run what ever you want to man
If you build it
Nerds will come
As the old saying goes
>>44991104
But I don't want to run for just a couple people. I could spend my time masturbating instead.
>>44991133
HOLY SHIT QUAD DUBS
Anyway, the surest way to get no players is to not run something
>>44991133
Well you could masturbate on running a civ.
>>44991498
I'll leave that to Cyclops OP.
Hi, OP from the conquer the future CIV, got hooked when a bulgarian started a CIV back at pol
>>44991904
Welcome! Feel free to ask any questions you might have.
>>44991498
I finished wanking. What now?
>>44992936
>44992936
Go for the record. It's sixteen times in an hour. Good luck.
>>44993247
I can't even do it 16 times in one day...
STAY BUMPED.
>>44994148
Get practicing, I suppose.
>>44994772
My sex drive isn't what it used to be. Anyway we are here for quests, not wanks.
>>44994702
What should we discuss?
I've been very much toying with the idea of a post apocalyptic Norse civ.
>>44995509
No more post-apocalypse. You may as well make it steampunk zombies or something equally trite.
>>44995618
Allow me to rephrase that.
I don't mean everything is a 'blow to shit waste land'
I mean this is thousands upon thousands of years after the fact.
Like, the world is vibrant with life, with ruins of the world before just kinda thrown about
>>44995992
I know what you meant. That's only a hair's-width marginally better.
>>44996005
Your option has been noted
>>44995992so stereotypical fantasy land?
>>44996131
I don't know any fantasy lands of that nature of the top of my head
Unless you count Dragon Fable, which I haven't played since I was a kid
>>44996224
where do you think all of these ancient ruins and legendary artifacts come from?
>>44996283
Ancient magical dick bags.
There is a very fine line between post Sci Fi and just normal fantasy.
>>44996494
....so are you still claiming it's NOT stereotypical?
>>44996665
please just....
>>44996494
what was the point being made here with regards to >>44996131?
>>44996721
But that's wrong, stupid.
What sorts of fantasy fauna exist in your worlds?
>>44996572
No. Its not.
>>44998627
Unfortunately it is. Ancient ruined empires and post-apocalyptic scenarios are extremely overrepresented in fantasy.
>>44998682
Give me ten examples of post Sci Fi
>>44998879
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalyptic_and_post-apocalyptic_fiction
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AfterTheEnd
Here are lists of several dozen examples.
Who else likes cute civilizations?
>>44998943
So ALL 'post' type fiction is post apocalyptic?
How do you do your scientific research mechanics?
>>44995992
why not post ragnorak with the tribes of midgard wandering the branches of the shattered Yggdrasil?
>>44999090
To be fair, while scifi and ambiguously fantasy post-post-apoc have been done, i don't recall seeing very many based on myths.
>>44999090
Also a good idea.
How do your civilizations hunt and gather?
When will we see another Mycea/Mushroom civilization?
Maybe we'll finally get a discussion next week.
>>45000011
Will we see another civ at all?
