>guys who RP as women are closet homosexuals
>>44813573
do you know transexuals exist right?
>>44813573
dat's true tho
>>44813573
>guys who shitpost on /tg/ are actual homosexuals.
>>44813598
Also homosexuals.
>that one guy who only RPs as female characters in your group
>always gets defensive when you call him out on it
>>44813573
>Not RPing as a smoldering hot dreamboat.
I think you're definition of homosexual needs work.
>>44813598
Unfortunately. But if we stop praising them for their mental illness and start attempting to treat it, they don't have to exist.
>>44813724
The only game where I can see myself playing a boat would be Engine Heart.
And mayyybe Shadowrun.
>guys who RP as beast-like races are closet furries
>>44813783
Yes
>>44813749
I seriously don't get why people get their panties in a hassle about shit like this.
>guys who RP as wizards are virgins
>>44813724
>I roleplay as a sexually aggressive women because I want someone who would flirt with me like she does all these men.
>>44813749
transsexuality is because of gender dysphoria, which basically means that your body is of sex A while your brain thinks you are sex B.
You can treat this by 2 different ways:
1. Try to convince them that they are sex A.
2. Change their body to sex B.
Option 2 works in vast majority of the cases, removing the dysphoria. Option 1 doesn't work, almost every case where people have tried it has ended badly.
correct way to treat trans people is to treat them the way they want to be treated.
Roleplaying a hot woman as a man? That's gay.
Roleplaying an ugly woman as a man? That's gay and you have some issues.
Roleplaying a hot man as a man? That's hella gay.
Roleplaying an ugly man as a man? That's gay, and your standards are terrible.
>>44813573
>>44813783
>>44813987
Well speaking for myself: yes. Yes we are.
>>44814110
>>44814110
After all, straight men only play as Averajohn, the white skinned black haired guy.
>Guys who RP as liches are closet skeletons
>>44814064
>citation needed
>>44814691
But anon,we're all skeletons on the inside.
>>44813573
>"Well, I don't allow crossplaying because women and men have different psychologies and I don't be trust my players to roleplay them faithfully."
>lets his players play Elves, Dwarves, Wizards, Priests, etc. despite players not being any of those things and the fact that all those things would have a vast different psychology from a normal, modern Human
>>44814849
>would have a vast different psychology from a normal, modern Human
prove it
>>44814691
No, guys who RP as liches are power gamer and should be excluded immediately.
>>44814896
Liches are horrifically weak though.
>>44814879
>races that live for hundreds of years
>in fact, they don't reach maturity until they're almost a century old
>who spend almost the entirety of their lives surrounded by green forest/subterranean environment
>and who are obsessed with magic and nature/mining and forging
>not psychologically different from a modern Human
Even Medieval Human psychology is almost too alien for a Modern Human.
>>44813598
>>44814064
Here is the thing...
Normal gamers don't bother to differiante. We just call you all faggots, and ignore you.
No, you can't join in, because you're all freaks.
>>44814849
Guys always play women as 1) themselves, and everyone is constantly forgetting the character is supposed to be a woman, 2) a huge turboslut that hits on everything that moves 3) their waifu.
Without fail.
It's just so tiresome.
>>44814980
>We
>>44814980
>>44814992
Yes.
We.
>>44814980
>Normal gamers
There's nothing normal about a /pol/fag.
>>44813783
I'm playing a Gnoll for the sake of playing a 7.5" Man-hyena who's mentally unstable. I don't jack off to my character or anything.
R-right?
>"4chan isn't just a place for people to be racist and bash gays!"
>this thread
Goddamnit, guys, stop doing the SJWs work for them.
>>44813573
>That one black guy who always plays as a white elf noble
Its ok man
>>44813573
>"hey DM could I play as a female character?"
>"What? No, you're a guy. That's too weird. You have to make a male character."
>proceeds to make jokes with another player about his elf starting a gay relationship with my paladin
>>44814983
Humans always play Elves as 1) themselves, and everyone is constantly forgetting the character is supposed to be a Elf, 2) a huge nerd that knows everything 3) their self-insert.
Humans always play Dwarves as 1) themselves, and everyone is constantly forgetting the character is supposed to be a Dwarf, 2) a huge drunk that drinks everything 3) their self-insert.
>>44815080
>Elves
>White
>>44815080
>implying blacks play
>watching as other anons jump in
>"ya, we have 58 blacks in our group"
>"oh us too, we actually have 65 of them"
>Women
>Adventurers
No one would stand for that shit.
You're stronger than average and an exception to the general "women are weak" rule?
Good, you would make a better mother than an adventurer because you would birth strong children.
Maybe you should be doing that instead.
There is a reason women don't fight in wars, and it's not because exceptional women never existed.
>>44813573
I agree.
>Have that one guy in the group who always plays females
>RPs himself with boobs
>Draws his characters with giant tits as borderline porn
>His PC's gender never comes up in game for any reason
>Other members refer to "her" as a male in and out of game
>>44815167
Ooh, so macho.
>>44813573
>closet
>>44815167
>>44813598
Yes, I know that some people are mentally ill. Your point?
>>44815123
Out of my small gaming group of irl friends, he's the most consistent and tries to come up with complex character backgrounds and stories, but they are always white, and have blonde hair and blue eyes
Like, dude just fucking self insert a little
>>44813724
I tried, but my DM vetoed the idea of a Windwaker inspired campaign
>>44815123
Do you just look for threads where anyone has mentioned black players to post this?
>>44815217
But whenever we self insert people go "THERE'S NO BLACK PEOPLE HERE", "BLACK PEOPLE BEING HERE IS UNREALISTIC"
It's much easier to just be white. That applies to games too.
>RP as a male
>character was gender-bent by a mischievous spirit
>was later turned into a futanari by a wizard
>>44813573
There are plenty of good reasons not to crossplay.
"If you do, you're gay, lol!" is not one of them.
>>44814064
>Option 2 works in vast majority of the cases
Only if you count eventual suicide as a "successfully eliminating dysphoria", to which I have to begrudgingly agree but still feel obligated to point out your methods are obscenely inefficient
>>44815059
Who gives a shit what tumblr thinks of us? The more everyone thinks 4chan is just /b/ and /pol/, the better
>>44814980
>we
>normal gamers
>being a /pol/fag
>you thinking you're normal
>>44814110
This guy gets it. Gamers are simply gay.
>>44814980
I agree. The majority is definately silent.
>>44814691
Is that show actually good at all?
>>44813573
Nobody thinks that; at least without context about the player in question.
Now GTFO.
>>44814957
>All but literally unkillable, and full casters to boot
>Horrifically weak
Sure they're much weaker than regular casters, but the ability to come back to life every time they're destroyed+undead immunities+paralysing touch is all hella nice.
>>44815296
>>we
No, Anon, you don't understand, all of his friends are there helping him write his posts. That's what normal people do, all of my friends are here too helping me post on 4chan and pick funny images and so on. That's how ALL normal people post on 4chan.
I mean, who would just spend hours of their life alone in their rooms, silently typing and chuckling at greentext without having any friends to share it with? That would just be depressing.
>>44815378
yes
>>44815378
No. It's shitty self-insert power wank.
>>44815293
>everyone is tumblr except 4chan
>>44813573
I find the idea uncomfortable
>>44815080
That one Caucasian guy who always plays a black dwarf from the streets.
>>44815383
had a character that wanted to become a lich because it was the most economically safe way to become immortal, of course there was vampirism but the blood was the problem. being undead and simply having a permanencied gentle repose works well enough to keep himself presentable.
if people whine, remind them whos boss and who holds the money. If clerics and "Kill dah undeads" types come knocking, wizard it.
>>44814983
That's what women also do when playing women tho!
...Maybe You guys should find some more mature friends to play with. In my group, people cross play all the time, and no one gives a fuck. The one time a newcomer asked why, everyone just shrugged and asked "why not?", and he couldn't come with any counter points.
And as the GM of the group. I don't give a fuck, because I kinda have to roleplay as females every now and again, so I don't really care what my players play as.
>>44815503
I kinda want to play an undead, but at the same time all the Liber Mortis fluff put me off it. I get it's the point, but stagnation and entropy, a person eternally frozen in a moment, is something I would prefer to run as an NPC
>>44815595
>cock flavored Cheetos are great
>>44813573
guys who do that want to be lesbian
>>44815595
>And as the GM of the group. I don't give a fuck, because I kinda have to roleplay as females every now and again
>tfw DM
>tfw trying to roleplay as a female NPC
I can't figure out if I'm some kind of pervert or what but I just can't do it without breaking character and stammering and shit
please help
>>44815621
Cheetos flavored cock is even better
>>44815626
>guys who do that want to be lesbian
Who doesn't?
>>44815470
He was crying about "the SJWs", anon. Everyone knows those creatures make tumblr their central hive.
>>44813573
I admit. I don't get why people want to rp a gender other than their own without there being some sort of fetishization to it. I'll also state that I've never seen it done without there being some fetishization.
I mean if you're going to claim that there's no significant difference between the sexes, then why does it matter to you so much that you play a gender different from your own?
If you're playing another gender specifically because of (nonmechanical, therefore nonmin-maxing) differences, then I do believe you've fetishized them to some extent.
Do I necessarily believe that this is absolutely straight up wank material? No. Do I think there's a lot more to it than most people are willing to admit, absolutely. Do I give a shit whatever their motives? Generally no.
>>44815775
Not if you label everyone who isn't racist, homophobic, etc. an SJW
>>44815749
In reality? Most sane people.
In a fantasy world? Only idiots and people with shit taste, really.
>>44813573
>guys who RP women as closet homosexuals
>>44815800
>everyone who disagrees with me is a backwards racist transphobic homophobe who murders puppies in the name of Hitlersatan
Lolokay, SJW
>>44815898
>not sacrificing puppies in the name of Hiltersatan
Its like you want the Transgender SJW comminazi jews to win.
>>44815296
>being a tranny
>thinking you're normal
>>44815790
>I admit. I don't get why people want to wear a color other than red without there being some sort of fetishization to it. I'll also state that I've never seen it done without there being some fetishization.
This is you. This is how dumb you sound.
>>44815898
>calling the guy saying gays are freaks a homophobe is ridiculous!
Calling a spade a spade isn't SJW, moron.
>>44815925
that's not even close to the same thing.
>>44815790
What if I fetishize all of my characters and not just the females?
>>44813598
Transexuals do NOT exist, and it is prejudiced to say that they do.
Just because a girl has a feminine penis due to a birthing abnormality, it does not mean she is NOT a female.
Transexuals do not exist - there are only men and women. It's just that some have the wrong peepee parts. Any transexual will tell you this.
>>44816088
>>44815790
>I mean if you're going to claim that there's no significant difference between the sexes, then why does it matter to you so much that you play a gender different from your own?
This question cuts both ways. Why does it matter to you that everyone play a character of the same gender?
The whole point of roleplaying is the opportunity to be something you're not. None of us are barbarians or wizards or genius inventors or space marines and none of us ever will be.
And if your GM is good at immersive worldbuilding, playing as a different gender can be an interesting experience. As an example from video games, Fallout New Vegas gives you a different experience playing as a female despite the fact that your stats are unchanged. Your interaction with certain NPCs, particularly those of the Legion, change depending on your gender. And you can take a flirting perk that adds even more unique interactions. This is a fun experience for some people because it's something they'll never get to do IRL. It's not necessarily fetishization any more than wanting to experience what it's like to be a guy with split personality syndrome by playing Everyone Is John is fetishization of that condition. It's just simple human curiosity.
>>44815800
Problem is everyone has a different definition of "racist" and "homophobic" these days. Some neo-leftists are even trying to redefine the word "racist" such that it can only ever apply to white people. Pic related.
You can get called racist for not supporting affirmative action quotas, or homophobic for thinking that cake shops should be free to sell to whoever they want.
The more you expand the definition of words like "racist", the smaller and more exclusive the pool of non-racists becomes. If non-racist is an ultra-exclusive club then it becomes natural to come up with a new term for them.
>>44816088
>Transexuals do not exist... Any transexual will tell you this.
>>44816116
>This question cuts both ways. Why does it matter to you that everyone play a character of the same gender?
It doesn't matter to me.
>The whole point of roleplaying is the opportunity to be something you're not. None of us are barbarians or wizards or genius inventors or space marines and none of us ever will be.
What you're leaving out is that quite often roleplaying is putting you in the shoes of someone that you can't be, but want to be.
>in the next paragraph you describe mechanical differences
So I'm not going to bother beyond the last bit "not necessarily fetishization" to which I'll point you to where I specify people who insist on playing opposit genders.
>>44813611
Nah, they are just faggots
>>44816116
>Problem is everyone has a different definition of "racist" and "homophobic" these days.
I was talking about this thread specifically where people talk shit about gays or trans people, then get mad when you call them homophobic, etc.
It always plays out the same way in other threads too
>anon says some stormfront-tier shit
>call him racist
>"OMG FUCK OFF SJW"
>>44814064
>tried
Except these dellusional cunts dont have dysphoria, I am tired of seeing wimpy teenagers crying that they must be females because some ebil jock bullied them or because they dislike monster trucks or whatever weird notion of masculinity they possess.
Actual dysphoria cases are more like the ones I see on grown men who realize they really don't want it despite actually having lived like men, as opposed to these shits who never once were more than wimps who excuse their wimpihood with "I-I was a girl all along!"
tl;dr
Transsexuals are the gender role version of "I was merely pretending to be retarded"
>>44816313
So the only true gays are the gays who were in the closet first, by this logic.
>>44816362
>in the closet
Not really?
More like they actually know what being a men is before they say they dislike it. A gay will of course know what a goddamn woman is.
Knowing what - being - a man is? A bit harder.
It's tiresome to see ADHD acne-ridden nerds who always pursued women and acted like a failed version of a male (and nothing at all like a female) and that act like spergs excuse their spergyness with "I was just a girl desu". They never knew how to be male to begin with. Often they never had a father figure of any worth and were mommas boys' too.
This is also why many of these shits also believe being a woman is like their yuri animes, and that is just fucking saddening.
>>44816422
>>44816362
Another reason: they feel like they are outcasts and that being a woman is easymodo where everyone treats you better, so might as well become one. P-people will me then r-right? Fucking wrong
>>44816505
It's not like the moment you become a girl you're cute and attractive and everyone wants to ask you out. Think how many girls you barely even notice, or are honestly just okay, or you'd rather not be more than friends with. And that's not even considering that people will treat you differently as a woman, whether you want to be 'one of the guys' or not.
It feels harder as a guy, but it's probably just as bad on the other side of the fence, even if in a different way.
>>44816562
Precisely, nothing about it is just a walk in the park.
But the same kind of fag who becomes an MRA to complain that being a man is hard can also just join tumblr and try to turn into a girl instead.
>>44815932
I never called gays freaks, anon. I think you're projecting.
>>44816941
I did.
>>44816258
Though they can also be homosexuals. The two could be mutually exclusive to one another.
>>44817083
>I'm my own strawman that I rally against!
Well good for you I guess
>>44813573
>It's perfectly okay to play as an orc, a squid alien, a bear man or a robot
>playing as a female is wrong
>>44817218
Yes, and?
Women have no place on the battlefield.
I play both genders from time to time
It's a game of pretend you fucks, no need to get so political over it
>>44815268
You say that like Option 1's suicide rate is lower.
Whichever you pick, you're trying to play a PS4 game on an XBox One. It should be no surprise that they tend to red ring.
We don't have the medical technology to change thier bodies one hundred percent, but we do the best we can.
>>44813679
>>44813749
>>44814980
>>44815213
>>44816088
The point is that what op is talking about if anything would be closet transexual and not homosexual
>>44817263
Fuck off Ahmed.
>>44817263
Neither do elves.
>>44817263
Maybe in real life, but what point is that against female adventurers, when most settings give them identical physical abilities to men?
>>44814064
>Option 2 works in vast majority of the cases, removing the dysphoria.
>born as a male, but think I am a female
>will modify my body and suddently it will be ok.
WTF
If someguy cut his dick his body dont become a female one, he is a male body without dick.
I dont know how shaping your body make it another sex.
>>44817320
Everything you mention...
Gay. Trans. OP....
Are all faggots.
>>44814064
The reason option 1 doesn't work is because we don't know the precise causes of dysphoria on a biochemical/biomechanical level.
And there has to be some underlying reason because it's a rather systematic phenomenon.
What we do know is that it's not something simple like a "gay gene" or a gene defect (which has actually been found in Drosophila: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20876995). It might be slightly more complex (like microsattelite instability) in which case we actually would be kind of close to be able to find something or a lot more complex (high level difference in connectome, an absolute nightmare to study systematically) in which case we might never be able to actually find or "solve" anything about it.
But research into this is both unpromising and not really politically wanted at the moment since treating it as some kind of defect, which on some level it most certainly is, is not socially acceptable.
I find this pretty understandable though because in the past when it was treated that way it was used for some horrible and also scientifically totally subpar research. It's not a topic that is likely to be seriously touched again for a long timer, for the better or worse.
>>44817400
It doesn't make it better magically; it just makes it a little less horrifically wrong.
Hormone therapy helps the brain's function a LOT more than surgery, which is why you see transfolk who stop there. They don't feel crazy anymore, and surgery is risky, expensive, and doesn't even do the job all the way, so there are those who just play the hand they're dealt, other than the hormones.
>>44815043
I play a Gnoll, and him stuffing hot women from smaller races is part of my magical realm. But I don't do that shit while TTing with other people. I LIKE having friends.
>>44817400
they get a fake vagina + hormones.
My DM refuses to put female NPCs in any games because he think playing as them would make him gay.
>>44817317
Spray painting "PS4" on an XBone won't accomplish much, though.
>>44817400
Cutting off your balls removes important hormone glands which will definitely change the balance of neural pathways in the brain. How precisely that would muck you up I don't know. Eunuchs don't seem that different, that's why you then also get hormonme therapy as >>44817497 pointed out.
>>44817560
No, but that's not what transitioning is.
First, following the metaphor, it's changing the drivers so that instead of NEVER running properly, the game runs properly SOME of the time. Still not ideal, but nothing about this is, and unfortunately they can't just swap out for a different game or system.
After tweaking the console's software as much as possible, some will start to mod the hardware. Change the internal hardware too much, though, and the system bricks, because there just aren't replacement parts for everything.
And some people DO spraypaint, too, or otherwise try to change the case, so they don't constantly get asked, "Hey, isn't that a PS4 exclusive?"
Sometimes it works, but often you get a Frankenconsole, so a lot just stop at the drivers.
>>44815322
Can't spell gaymer without gay.
>>44813573
My last character was an undestructible magical living animated staff with an ego and a foul mouth that could cast bright and colorful lights at will. It was awesome.
During the campaign I was turned into a wand by an lich and then a dildo by a succubus. Turning me back from dildo to staff was one of our group most dangerous missions.
It was awesome.
>>44817739
Made me laugh/10.
Sounds really fun to play if your group is not too serious about things.
Why would a succubus need a dildo though?
>>44817317
And I don't see why I should be forced to contribute money to your retarded pet crusade to make a PS4 play Xbone games, especially if you're just gonna beak the console in frustration in a few years.
>>44817389
I don't play politically correctivist settings
>>44817340
You first, Sven.
>>44817380
>superior in humans in every way
Maybe only because wars are beneath them.
>>44817787
She was lonely after being imprisioned in some demi-plane by her demon lover.
She offered us information about how to leave a dimensional plane we we're trapped, but only if somebody fucked her.
Everybody was affraid that she would suck their life or something during sex, and so one guy said "fuck it, we use the talking staff". And I was like, "what?" And the succubus, used some spell and turned me into a dildo. And fucked me. Hard. Repeatedly. And then, gave the party the information that we needed. And explained that she couldn't turned me back. So they needed to go to another place full of demons and succubi to see if one could do the trick. Needless to say, shit got awry and all the battle ensured.
>>44817918
It doesn't matter whether you play in those settings or not, the fact is that your 'Women have no place on the battlefield.' comment is irrelevant in them remains.
Unless you also refuse to play in settings where spellcasting doesn't exist. What's stopping a female wizard adventuring as opposed to a male one?
>>44818006
>What's stopping a female wizard adventuring as opposed to a male one?
his insecurity
>>44814064
>>44817895
I don't recall asking you for money, bitch-ass nigger.
In my country, transfolk do as much as they can off the sweat of their brows, with maybe the help of of family and friends.
Sorry you're assblasted about living in Cuckistan.
>>44816629
Tumblr is a weird sort of echo chamber, though. You mostly only get stuff reblogged from people you follow. So an MRA, who mostly follows MRAs (as rare as they'd probably be), is going to get a bunch of opinions to the contrary about becoming a girl.
>>44818006
>What's stopping a female wizard adventuring as opposed to a male one?
The fact that in many historical cultures women were only believed to be able to be spellcasters by stealing man's vitality whereas men could do it naturally. Or the fact that you wouldn't want your wizard to be unable to keep pace with your party, be unable to pull her own weight, and get flighty, emotional, and unreliable in times of stress, ergo combat.
No matter how much magic and make believe you heap on a setting, women still have no place on the battlefield if you care about versimilitude.
>>44815749
>who doesn't want to be a lesbian
I'd rather be a str8 grill.
>>44818148
>Living in a country where trans-people are supported instead of sent to a therapist
>accusing anyone else of living in a cuck country
>>44818148
>I don't recall asking you for money
Which is why trannies beg for money everywhere and demand that their delusions be governmentally enforced.
>>44813749
/thread
But seriously, I had a guy in one of my groups that only played women. As it turned out he was a closet transsexual. In fairness to him, he played them really well.
>>44818186
>the "fact" that in many historical cultures
let's go with one that isn't one of those many
>Or the fact that you wouldn't want your wizard to be unable to keep pace with your party, be unable to pull her own weight, and get flighty, emotional, and unreliable in times of stress
but what if they do pull their own weight. this is a fantasy setting, anything can happen.
>>44817531
Not gonna like, that's pretty hot. Plus hyenas are cute and the fur would be nice to run your fingers through during coitus..
>>44813749
if only we hadn't gotten rid of asylums.
we really need some form of hospitals for mental patients, not just for trannies, but for a variety of other reasons, including those mentally ill who commit mass shootings, which, though extremely rare, should still be dealt with either way.
though the left will keep using both of those to gain power because "muh LGBT """rights"""" and "muh gun control"
>>44817671
Personally, all I really care about is that no one tries to sell me one console and it later turns out to be the other. If I've already plugged it in at that point, it's going to end up with a sledgehammer right through the chassis.Metaphors are fun.
>>44818186
>The fact that in many historical cultures...
You could stop right there, historical views on magic aren't the same as the in-setting explanations. So that's not an argument, wizards can teleport (Not to mention forced marches aren't the standard for adventuring parties anyway) and emotional issues are common, not a constant.
You're making a bunch of very setting specific arguments (or at least trying to) and saying that they apply to every setting, which is wrong. You're also likening an adventuring party to an army group, which isn't an absolute either.
Yes in some specific settings, women may not be suitable to a hard marching, army style group, but you're honestly retarded if you think all settings are your ideal setting. Maybe you would be right if you spoke of realism, but verisimilitude is a matter of internal consistency, nothing to do with the real world.
I play an even split of male and female characters because I'm comfortable with my sexuality and enjoy the different experiences you get from playing vastly altering character types.
The most closeted people are the ones who only play male fighters.
Gr8 b8 tho
>>44818351
What if I mostly play male paladins, and have nervously tried playing a female one?
>>44818278
>but what if they do pull their own weight
Then they aren't women.
>this is a fantasy setting
Yeah, a fantasy setting not a fetish setting
>anything can happen.
This is the laziest excuse for being a shitty worldbuilder. You don't deserve to be a DM
>>44818323
Is once a week really extremely rare?
>>44818332
To be fair, if you've plugged it in without realizing you were duped, you're fucking blind.
>>44818336
>You're making a bunch of very setting specific arguments (or at least trying to) and saying that they apply to every setting, which is wrong.
Are you not doing the same? I already told you that I don't play in shitty politically correct fetish settings and you keep insisting that I do because your feelings keep getting #triggered.
>>44818201
>implying that therapy to weed out false positives and quadruple-check to make sure they're trans isn't Step 1.
Golly gee, it's almost like you have no fucking idea what you're talking about!
>>44818209
>everywhere
tumblr isn't everywhere, kid. And just because it's a Saturday doesn't mean you're not underage.
>>44818192
Agreed, hate to say it but cock is king and penetration it's divine right to rule.
>>44818192
>>44818418
Why not just be a lesbian, but with a dick?
The dick adds character, you know.
>>44818417
>cries about lgbt trannyshit
>calls others kids
Kek.
>>44818323
>if only we hadn't gotten rid of asylums.
We haven't. But I don't expect facts to get in the way of your idiocy. That would be contrary to the actual definition of the word.
>>44818332
All of the console-modders I've known have been grudgingly upfront about it.
"It's a PS4! ...That I built out of an XBox..."
But I get where you're coming from; not everyone's that honest.
>>44818444
Beign a shapeshifter who doesn't have to worry about such petty things would be God-Tier.
>>44818373
but what if they are women
>>44818472
Not everyone is an americuck, faggot
>>44818444
I don't find female bodies appealing? It's all about personality and relationship. A dick attached to that is.. eh I'd rather have a hot dude who smells and feels like a dude, and acts like a dude (but opens up to me because I'm weak and pathetic for guys who are needy and FEELINGS)
>>44818460
>cries
Oh, cool, you're gonna quote where I cried, right?
You aren't just pulling shit out of your ass?
Right?
>>44818417
>>implying that therapy to weed out false positives and quadruple-check to make sure they're trans isn't Step 1.
I wasn't saying that, I was saying that if your country allows people to inject hormones from the other gender into their body, you live in a cucked nation.
there are things man should not do, and making men into women and women into men is one of them
>DM discourages playing as a female of a race by making them have a -2 on Str and -2 to wisdom
>>44818492
Then your setting is shit.
>>44818416
Nope. You made an absolute statement ('women have no place on the battlefield') and acted like it applied to all settings, which it does not. You're also equating adventuring groups to battlefield situations, which is incorrect. I agree women have no place on battlefields in the real world, but I have no such qualms about fantasy adventuring, 'cause y'know, fantasy.
>Any setting with casting or no mechanical gender differences=shitty politically correct fetish settings
Okay /pol/, I think you can go home now.
>>44818496
Yes? And? I'm not either, but what does it matter?
>>44818505
Sounds like you're a faggot, then.
>>44818444
I want to take dick in in a vag, not give it.
>>44818509
Fucking go back to /pol/ with your thought-stopping memeshit. Or better, just fucking kill yourself and remove yourself from the gene pool.
>>44818509
>should not do
But why not?
>>44818541
Gaaaaaay
>>44818539
If guys can be lesbians, can girls be faggots?
>>44818444
Trips confirm
>>44818509
>things man should not do
Because God makes everyone the way they're meant to be, doesn't He?
That big ol' ball of love.
>>44818472
not everyone lives in burgerland, and even over there, you all have a lot less than you should.
>>44818567
Faggot is not gender exclusive, fag.
>>44813573
>guys who RP as closet homosexuals are women
>>44818582
>Because God makes everyone the way they're meant to be, doesn't He?
never mentioned God, I'm simply stating the obvious, that man, for as much as we have achieved, should not try and make ourselves masters over nature, because we simply aren't and can't ever be.
And changing peoples genders is certainly trying to be master of nature
>>44818564
>why not?
You are everything Man is supossed to be, anon.
Now you need to fuck an alien girl.
>>44818674
Let's go back to living in caves then.
Fucking Luddites.
>>44818373
Man this is like the weakest b8.
>>44818674
Man is part of nature, everything we do is part of nature.
Nature is not something that can be mastered or changed.
We can expand our knowledge of nature but we can't achieve unnatural deeds. Such things are impossible by definition.
Nature is something that is. And always will be no matter what we do.
If you say there is something we are "meant" to do you are just talking about purposses and stuff that requires a superior being/s that created us for a reason, by definition, a God. His retort was correct, if a bit fedora.
>>44818718
Oh now I'm a Luddite!
I didn't know that saying that we shouldn't meddle with forces beyond our control makes me a technophobe!
go ahead, then, mess around with the human genome all you want! I cant' wait till we have designer made babies.
>>44818351
>I'm comfortable with my sexuality
Pfft. That's like dudes wearing a pink shirt.
Sure, you can call yourself comfortable with your masculinity, but we all know you're just a fag in denial.
>>44818776
>forces beyond our control
What?
>>44818776
>I cant' wait till we have designer made babies.
You really are a Luddite, huh. I bet you bitch about modified crops, too.
>>44818776
>forces beyond our control
We don't know until it explodes in our faces and we do it again.
If something is beyond our "control", then it is.
Well have to keep trying to "control" it because doing so is the only thing that brings us a purpose in this universe. Until we stop existing, that is.
Also, your religious luddite-y is showing, anon
>>44818566
I said a vag, what's gay about that?
>>44818566
>women are gay for having sex with men
>>44818975
Liking men is gay, anon
In games I usually play whatever gender there is less of in the party. Usually this means I play a woman more often, but not always.
I'm not entirely sure why I do this to be honest, but i'd guess it has to do with my tendency to play the foil to some other character in the group. It just kinda happens naturally.
>>44818872
>Well have to keep trying to "control" it because doing so is the only thing that brings us a purpose in this universe
how do you think that gives us purpose?
the only purpose of this entire existence is to reach equilibrium, it's what the universe has been trying to do since it started.
>>44819000
>the universe has been trying
>implying effort
Yeah, like a top "tries" to spin down.
>>44819000
If you mean heat death, why don't you kill yourself already?
>>44818975
You heard me.
>>44818895
Because you're taking dick in the first place. It's not gay if you were the dick giver, but if you're the dick receiver, it's gay.
Now you might be going, 'Anon, this is a hypothetical scenario. I just like straight women.' But you are heavily implying that you - the person imagining the hypothetical scenario - would chose that you - the woman in the hypothetical scenario - would take the dick. Which means that you would rather take the dick, even when now I assume you are a straight male who would normally go after women yourself. Ergo, it is acting gay to chose to want to have sexual relations with men, when right now your attraction is to women and theoretically wouldn't change if you magically became a girl.
Does that make any sense?
>Male writers who write female characters are closet homosexuals
>So are people who paint them
>Or draw them in general
>In fact, anyone that does anything remotely related to woman are actually freakish trans people or homos
Faggots, all of them.
>>44819027
well yes actually.
I'm not saying it willfully is making the choice to reach equilibrium, but that';s what it is doing, or more accurately it's in the process of doing.
>>44819031
Can't say, no real reason not to.
there's no such thing as purpose, only thing not causing me to try and die is chemical and electrical signals in my brain telling me I enjoy life right now.
>>44819125
>I'm not saying it willfully is making the choice to reach equilibrium, but that';s what it is doing, or more accurately it's in the process of doing.
Okay, that's acceptable.
>>44819125
Life is nothing but a pointless struggle against thermodynamics.
Soooo, you ight as well find something to enjoy doing while you wait for the end.
Humanity has chosen to fuck up with the things, you pansy, have deemed beyond our control.
>>44818767
well, that's my point really.
no god, just existence. no purpose, so then while technically one could say there isn't a reason not to make men into women, by that logic there is no reason to not exterminate all humanity, but for some reason people aren't to keen on the latter idea.
>>44819038
Tl;dr: Roman rules, faggots.
It's gay to receive the dick, not to give it.
>>44819208
>Life is nothing but a pointless struggle against thermodynamics.
exactly. and seeing as everything else is in the process of reaching equilibrium, we should to. just all off ourselves, do the universe a favor and make that process just a bit shorter.
no reason not to.
>>44818734
>bait meme
Thanks for admitting you're just a shitposter.
>>44815708
Don't know, honestly. I generally just sometimes describe the character as female, and just work in subtle differences after the actual physical description of then. Most people don't act overly much like their gender when it comes down to it, it just feels somewhat odd to only encounter males all the times, especially with the places my players usually gravitate towards.
Don't think of them as the stereotypical female, just think of the actual role they fill. A female barkeep wouldn't act much different than a male one. They have to deal with the same shit, after all, so they are likely pretty similar in terms of personality.
If you have issues with overly feminine types, like young maids, just don't include them in your games. The absence might seem odd if you gm a lot and over a long period of time, but you are better off leaving it out entirely, rather than implementing things you cannot implement properly. It'll break immersion far more than just ignoring it entirely.
>>44819229
There is no reason not to explore all the secrets we ca out of this universe either.
There is no reason we shouldn't modify what we are to see if we can, and if it makes the lives of some people better in the process, then cool.
You are doing nihilism wrong, anon. There is no purpose in the universe but what we make out of it.
>>44815378
Yes. You have to enjoy a certain amount of self-referential humor and not care about the light novels at all however.
>>44819285
>do the universe a favor
What has the universe done for me lately? The universe can go fuck itself.
If it doesn't like it then it can grow a mind of its own and tell me so, see if i give a fuck.
>>44819307
>There is no reason not to explore all the secrets we ca out of this universe either.
except that it goes against what the entire rest of the universe is in the process of accomplishing.
nice work, setting back everything else in existence's hard work at trying to reach equilibrium. why are you so special that you don't have to help speed along the process of equilibrium?
everything is just a arrangement of the fundamental particles, what makes our arrangement so special?
>>44819307
Mine negro.
>>44819357
oh, I didn't know you were sooooo important that you should be put on a pedestal instead of the rest of the arrangement of atoms in this universe
>>44819386
That's so fucking stupid coming from a guy whose archrival/nemesis is a FUCKING SORCERER who PUNCHES SATAN IN THE FACE TO TAKE BACK HIS MOTHER'S SOUL
>>44813724
This
I rolled women on mmos so i didnt have to stare at a guys ass all day
>>44819307
>>44819386
please, you really do NOT want this discussion to take place on /tg/ of all places
>>44819475
not them, but why not?
>>44819463
Dreamboats are males, gaylord
>>44819433
>That's so perfectly reasonable coming from a guy whose archrival/nemesis is a QUANTUM MECHANICS-MANIPULATING SCIENTIST who PUNCHES AN EXTRADIMENSIONAL ALIEN IN THE FACE TO TAKE BACK HIS MOTHER'S UNIQUE BRAIN-SCAN PATTERN
>>44818992
not when i'm wearing a skirt
>>44819515
Didn't realize quantum mechanics ran on raven's blood and eye of newt, faggot.
And then there's Doctor Strange. And that time he visited Literally God, aka Stan Lee
>>44819375
>what makes our arrangement so special?
It can think. Think about the wishes of the supercluster, if it can even be described as wishes, more as a behavior.
We don't have a behavior, we have wishes, anon.
Look, you want to hate trans people? Ok, it is your life, do as you please. But please, don't give up Anon, We are part of the universe, a part that can decide. A part that is not a complete slave of the laws we have observed.
The fact that we speak of such laws means we are outsiders to the "will" of this universe.
Who am i? Someone who looked at the universe and selfishly said "no" like many, many others
>>44819582
not to mention things like The One-Above-All.
>>44819433
Science can explain everything.
>>44819627
>It can think
oh, so because our arrangement defines thinking in such a way that only our arrangement does it, and we then decide that that ability is somehow important, we get to be better than everything else?
It's so easy to be special when you get to decide the criteria for being special.
>>44819582
>Didn't realize quantum mechanics ran on raven's blood and eye of newt, faggot.
That's because your science is weak, cocksucker.
What if I play women because I just love pretty girls?
>2010 + 6
>letting people be degenerates and destroy their bodies
>>44819038
No, no, the hypothetical is that I'm a girl taking the dick. That's straight. Your assumption misses out that I would rather be a girl taking the dick. It looks at part of the hypothetical and assumes only that part has implications about my sexuality. But whether or not I have a vag in the hypothetical is relevant.
>>44816313
>>44816422
desu I have a friend who claims to be trans MtF and I just really feel like this is his situation.
Went to an overly liberal college where he learned how evil he was for being a guy, made some new friends who reinforced that shit, and are the kinds to completely indulge those trans notions to prove how progressive they are.
He ended up with a lot of debt and not really able to find a job better than retail (majored in Japanese but didn't come out of it fluent enough to be a translator, which certainly didn't help). And things just generally didn't work out for him after school, which is when it started.
Sucks because enough of those friends support him on it that if I try to question it I am not "really being 'her' friend" because I am not supportive enough. All I can really do is hope things get better for him or he realizes on his own putting on a dress ain't gonna make his life better.
Sorry for the blog, just kinda felt the need to even
I see nihilists are still being gigantic crybabies on 4chan because not even trannies will touch their dicks.
Pathetic.
>>44813749
Daily reminder that trannies can literally be cured but any research into treatments beyond normalized mutilation and trying in vain to contort tranny bodies into something they aren't are considered too politically incorrect to pursue, because it would mean fully coming to terms with the fact that these people are mentally ill.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
>>44819852
>I don't understand [THING] and can't be bothered to educate myself, so I'll call it degeneracy!
>>44819950
not him, but nobody in this thread has provided multiple valid, peer reviewed scientific articles that support the pro-tranny side.
for all the appeals to science they make, you think they'd be able to provide sources
>>44819505
How does that analogy work? A "dreamboat" is a man you could cruise through life on?
>>44819950
I'm sorry if I don't agree with enabling others, especially the mentally ill
>>44819844
Depending on how that's done, it's either okay or magical realm.
>>44819864
Yes, but you're making the active choice to chose to be a woman taking a dick in your hypothetical scenario, instead of retaining your attraction for women.
I wouldn't call it calling you gay as in calling you homosexual. It's just hella gay.
>>44819125
>only thing not causing me to try and die is chemical and electrical signals in my brain telling me I enjoy life right now.
What is the "me" your brain is talking to?
>>44820108
>retaining
Now that's an assumption...
>>44815097
you shouldnt have been such faggot because nobody would have thought you were gay.
>>44819685
Science can't explain my feels.
>>44820108
How is it magical realm? Is it magical realm to play as a young knight in training too?
>>44820233
Oh no, it wasn't my paladin that was gay. It was the elf that was. They were just throwing out this whole idea while I'd planned to pick up barmaids in taverns.
>>44820014
First post that was either for or against transfolk being mentally was >>44813749 . That means the burden of proof is on your side of the table, faggot.
>>44820040
They aren't MENTALLY ill. They're PHYSICALLY ill with a birth defect that--aomng other things--floods their brain with the wrong hormones.
If I put you on the wrong gender's hormones to that degree, you'd be eating wallpaper.
>>44820519
>They aren't MENTALLY ill. They're PHYSICALLY ill
That seems like an unnecessary attempt to sanitize their mental illness, given that mental illnesses are very literally defined by a chemical imbalance in the brain which in turn cause a variety of different problems, which you yourself have gone on to admit is the case with trannies.
>>44819708
>It's so easy to be special when you get to decide the criteria for being special.
NOW YOU GET IT!
See? We are making progress here!
>>44813573
>>guys who RP as women are closet homosexuals
I think you fags that play women are misunderstanding exactly why we dislike you.
>>44820519
Those are some pretty nutty mental gymnastics.
Mentally ill gymnastics, perhaps.
>>44820593
Ah, okay. So you "don't agree with" treating depression, ADHD, or schizophrenia either, then, right?
I mean, you aren't just singling transfolk out because you find them to be "yucky", right?
>>44820664
8/10 for clever phrasing, 0/10 for actually having any meaning or supporting your argument.
>>44819229
>by that logic there is no reason to not exterminate all humanity, but for some reason people aren't to keen on the latter idea.
Of course there's a reason. An extremely selfish reason. It's called "not wanting to die". There's also "not wanting to be alone", and "not wanting to be killed for trying to exterminate humanity".
You should quit nihilism, you're doing it wrong.
>>44820646
What specifically is the big deal then?
>>44820644
No were not, because you still think that your criteria mean anything.
they could only matter if you yourself matter, as you are the one saying they matter. but the only reason you matter is because of the criteria that you say matter, which only matter because you say they matter, and so on and so on.
Your circular reasoning proves nothing
>>44820680
You don't let depressed people wallow in their depression just like you don't indulge people with gender disphoria by fucking with their bodies hormones even more, or mutilating their genitals.
Seeing as our usual GM is gay and prefers playing male characters, and the only female in our group plays male characters 90% of the time, I can't take that line of thinking seriously.
![Paul-Woscht[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Fb545Hr.jpg "Paul-Woscht[1].jpg")
>>44820680
>Ah, okay. So you "don't agree with" treating depression, ADHD, or schizophrenia either, then, right?
No, I just consider mutilating men and asking people to call them women indulging in delusion. And yes, feeding them hormones to try to feminize their masculine bodies is indeed another form of mutilation.
As >>44819948 mentioned, there is great promise in using pimozide to treat trannies. But people like you have begun equating giving schizophrenics their happy pills to turning a man's genitals inside out and trying to convince everyone else that he's a woman, so more effective and less ridiculous methods of treating the mentally ill are left out in the cold for the sake of political correctness.
>>44820756
And you shouldn't because it doesn't mean jack shit most of the time. I play females because I like girls and I love to design them in looks and personality, not because I'm into dick or secretly want to be a woman.
>>44820681
>Of course there's a reason. An extremely selfish reason. It's called "not wanting to die". There's also "not wanting to be alone", and "not wanting to be killed for trying to exterminate humanity".
which only matter because you say they do.
but what you say doesn't matter, because nothing has inherent value.
