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Has tabletop ever cost you a relationship?
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Has tabletop ever cost you a relationship?
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Not a romantic one, I've never tried to hide the my hobbies and interests.

A few games have led to no more contact with some people.

So it depends on how you are using relationship.
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>>44739944
Please take me back. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you when your character died. Don't do this.
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No, I refuse to hang out with people that petty.

You can usually spot one a mile away
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>>44739944

Well, I have seen a few people kicked out of groups I've attended for being idiots, but I don't really care about them. Romantically, tabletop only ever got me a girlfriend.
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>>44739944
Tabletop gained me a relationship. Met my current gal at a board game night, and we've been together ever since.
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>>44739944
well not exactly

i mena tabletop didn't directly cost me a relationship, but while gaming i saw my (then current) girl's true colors and some convictions she actually had

the thing is she was a shit roleplayer and she told me her little secret is to act like she would act in any given situation but without any kind of filter and it was very liberating for her because she got to be a total asshole towards NPCs with the excuse of "it's what my character would've done/said" and i found out a shitton of tiny details that bothered me a lot and i had to let her go so i wouldn't end up getting tied in crazy shit
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>>44739944
Might cost a friendship soon because my group's That Guy is too problematic at the table but a friend outside of dice games of pretend.
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No, but her being a manipulative, cheating whore did.
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>>44740545
>I'm not sad, I'm not, I'm not :*(
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>>44740545
Want a hug, bro?
Remember that you're among friends
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I was talking to a cute girl, and I mentioned that I play tabletop games. She laughed and said I should probably not tell that to girls. I told her that if the worst thing a girl found out about me was that I play D&D, then it's a good day.
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>>44742415

So you made yourself sound like a freak or a criminal.
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>>44739944
i've lost friends, but it was less about a misunderstanding that was never resolved and more like "holy shit, these people are some sick twisted ingrates"

i left, and was all the better for it.
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>>44742430
Girls like mysterious badboys

Now all anon has to do is get a cape and brood on a rooftop somewhere
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>>44742736
Everyone knows strange overweight socially awkward people with capes that trespass on rooftops get all the ladies. Ask anybody with a vagina!
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>>44742782
I would but they all run away.
Must be my manly aura of mystery. I'm just too sexually intimidating.
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>>44742782
I asked my girl. She rolled her eyes and went back to what she was doing. I don't think she wanted me to know the secret is out!
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>>44739944
yes

but mostly it was because I wanted to smoke dope, listen to metal and drive fast

>preacher's daughters are way to horny and way to straight edge
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>>44742803
Try cornering them. They'll respect your determination
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My relationships have cost me my time with tabletop games. I tried very hard to find wife potential in someone who likes my hobbies as I do, but unfortunately all my ex-girlfriends and my wife only tolerate my enjoyment and want nothing to do with it themselves. Although, my wife has helped me with color mixing advice to achieve fine tones.
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>>44743212
m8, your partner doesn't need to share your interests and it's completely fine to have your own hobbies apart from her, I would actually say that it can be quite a good thing
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>>44743276
PS: look for good people, not fitting interests
if the person fits, one can follow the other, that's why I found a good girl and then started nerdifying her
She's better than one of my buddies at CS:GO already, seems to like platformers as well and actually thanked me for showing her oprtal when she finished it, I'm not sure how to get her into strategy games though
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Not really, I have a life besides tabletops
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I always get a bit too serious about the campaigns I run. Cost me some friends in high school. My ex didn't like how much time I spent playing D&D so she broke up with me (well it's more complicated than that but that's the ghist of it)
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>>44739944
No, not yet.

Also is she cheering because the girl broke up with the guy or cheering because now is her chance on the guy?
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>>44743485
both
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Yeah I got NTRd
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>>44739944
No because I play with mature, responsible, and independent, adults.

Next question.
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Poor tabletop performance has been a deciding factor in a breakup before.

Really, it was her rampant drug use, but the poor tabletop performance had been annoying me enough to make me consider the relationship dead about a month prior.
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>>44743276
>your partner doesn't need to share your interests
wut. why would you have a girlfriend/boyfriend if they don't share your intrests
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I gained one, it is good. Met through D&D, together still and playing D&D.
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>>44743276
he means they don't need to share all of your interests and that you can have D&D as a hobby separate from them and it is still fine.
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Honestly, I'm surprised it hasn't yet.

>Invite friend to table
>He turns into a total asshole, acting like he knows everything about the game, but only basing it off his MMO skills
>Talks down to other players when they make common mistakes, or even do things correctly that he just assumed from his MMO days went another way
>Would heavily blame other players for his mistakes which he would make excuses for out the ass.
>Rest of the group was shitty in their own ways, disband whole group, but MOSTLY because of him
>Immediately find new group
>He was the only one I didn't tell about it because he kept assuming he was my best player and without those other scrubs holding him back, we could be great.
>New group gaming at FLGS
>Three months later
>He walks in while I have a table of 8 people
>He was there to buy some cards for a new TCG he got into.
>Silently left
>Never brought up D&D again to me

Reaaally awkward when I showed up for his birthday, but other than that, it was mostly fine.
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>>44743566
Do you believe in independence for Québec?
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>>44739944

I can't lose what I've never had
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>>44743640
>wut. why would you have a girlfriend/boyfriend if they don't share your intrests
because it's just as fine to be able to discover new things
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>>44745259
I'm your friend, anon
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Not me, but it seems to keep costing my friends their relationships. Two motherfuckers in our group are completely repellant to all women ever and the rest of us tend to be pretty annoying anyway so it kinda makes sense.
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>>44742782
>overweight socially awkward peopl
As someone who has never played a tabletop game, is that really who the average player is?
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>>44745555
this is not tumblr, faggot.
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>>44745646
You're right, we won't say the girl was brave for what she did and that anon probably raped her
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>>44745633
In my experience, sorta. Most gaming groups I see in hobby shops are like that but with both groups I have with friends its more of a mix. If anything, playing with friends has made most of my once-spergy friends considerably less socially inept.
As for overweight, yeah, generally, but you'll usually find skinny fucks that enjoy it just as much as anyone else in almost any given group.
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>>44745633
No, no it's not. People of all weight and sociability play. I'm pretty socially awkward though I'm a skinny fucker. No one at my campaign's table is overweight and in fact one of them is still pretty ripped from being in the navy.
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>>44745633
Not really. Usually it's more jolly fat guys and normal people.
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>>44743640
Because it's way easier to introduce somebody you like to be around to new interests than it is to make somebody who shares your interests not be a fucking bitch.
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>>44745646
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>>44739944
Yeah, a couple of times
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>>44740417
story please
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>>44739944
Yeah, all of them?
I mean I can't be sure, but I'm pretty sure I would've had some otherwise.
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>>44742782
>everyone I played with has normal weight and average/above average faces.
>even the americans
Nice joke tho, the 80s are that way.
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>>44743640
Because you don't need to spend every fucking waking moment with your SO, you dumbass.
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>>44743640
>wut. why would you have a girlfriend/boyfriend if they don't share your intrests
Because you like to nail them? Is this question for real, are you this sheltered?
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Roleplaying made me stick my dick in crazy

Sometimes i regret it. Depends on how the day went
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>>44739944
Hell yeah. I tend to date crazy girls and when they hear I do tabletop, they always beg to come along since they love "nerdy things. That always blows up since they get bored or try to make it about themselves and get mad when I tell them to stop being an idiot.

That or a girl will join by coming with someone else and they almost always come onto me, I always shoot them down, and I piss off the person who brought the chick since they wanted to fuck them.

One time, I even got slapped at the table by a girl who I turned down. Friend got mad at me because "I didn't let her down gently" and that I "was a blunt asshole."

Whatever. Girls just ruin most games they come into contact with. Guys are better. Both as fellow players and romantic partners.
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>>44743860

>Independent Québec
>Not wanting a Free and Independent Nova Scotia
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>>44747849
How Nova Scotia so okay when the rest of Chinada is so absolutely cucked? I went there and the people were actually normal
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>>44747835
>Both as fellow players and romantic partners.
that's gay as hell, yo
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>>44747927
No shit. In other news, water's wet, fire burns, and chew your food.
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>>44747927
That's kinda the point, Anon. Girls are dumb and way too much trouble.

You get a better deal if you make a boy cute and date that rather than dating an already cute girl and having to deal with their bullshit.
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>>44747995
You're fucked either way.
Girls are awful to the very core of their being. Absolutely incapable of true humanity and slaves to the zeitgeist.

Then for gay guys, half of them have HIV and then the other half are obnoxious flamboyant faggots. The sane gays are impossible to find anymore.

Who is there even left to fuck?
Do I just fuck the dice and figurines at the table now?
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>>44747835
>Girls just ruin most games they come into contact with
>>44747995
>Girls are dumb and way too much trouble.
>>44748030
>Girls are awful to the very core of their being
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>>44748087
nigga u whipped
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>>44739944
Well, no, but there was some heated debate whether ERP counts as cheating or not.
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>>44748030
>Then for gay guys, half of them have HIV and then the other half are obnoxious flamboyant faggots
Then HIV thing is only a serious concern if you live in a fag-heavy state like Commiefornia or something. Same goes for the flaming gay thing.

Here in Texas, most of the gays I meet are pretty decent people who just happen to be gay, not letting their sexuality determine their personality.

However, if you only go gay for qt trap boys, you do end up with a good deal of trouble, since many of them are fucked in the head in some way. Not as bad as a woman, but still really fucking annoying. Best bet is to play both sides and try to pick the best you can deal with.
>>44748087
>Girls just ruin most games they come into contact with
>Girls are dumb and way too much trouble.
Yes, I said those things and I stand by them. I'm no robot, but those pathetic NEETs are right. Girls ruin most everything they join.
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>>44745555
That's not mutually exclusive, good friend will not shy away from hurting you when it's for your own good in the long run.
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>>44748128
If you're okay with your partner talking lewd with someone other than yourself, hey, that's you.

Me, personally? I'd never let it happen. And if it did, I'm done with that person.
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>>44748132
I live in Texas too, by Austin. Most of the gay guys here are the obnoxious faggot variety.
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>>44748163
North Texas sucks, man. Still, you have the best traps in the state, so there's that.

San Antonio here. Our fags are pretty based. Wish there were a bit more qt ones. Everyone is bara as fuck here.
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>>44748030
>Who is there even left to fuck?
With you attitude? Nobody.
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There's so much cringe in this thread.
I've gamed with a few girls. One of them didn't roleplay much, and an other insist for all of her characters to be gay. That's kinda creepy but it doesn't come up in gam emost of the time, so whatev's. Others were okay.
Girls are people, just like guys. If you don't understand this either you're an irredeemable dumbass or you only ever met bitches.
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>>44748030
>Who is there even left to fuck?
Yourself, Anon. The best course of action you can possibly take is to go fuck yourself.
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>>44748231
Fine, you play with them then. I'll keep having fun games with other guys that isn't ruined by any bullshit sexual tension between players and is just making stories and having fun.
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>>44748265
lel
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>>44748290
Bruh all of my gaming groups in college have been ~50% female and there's been no problems.

When you keep having problems, you have to consider that the commonality is you.
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>>44748326
Humanistic studies are not real college.
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When I was little a fairly impressive Jenga tower fell on my Gerbil
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>>44748326

That keeps enough females available that the men don't fight.

You either need many women or none.
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>>44748326
But I don't have problems. My group is fun and every other group I've been with in the past has been fun. It's only when a girl shows up and brings drama that it stops being fun.

The commonality is girls.

Look, I don't hate women. I'm just saying that they tend to make fun things not fun, at least in my experience, so much so that I would recommend that others just game with the same gender. I'm glad you have fun in your group, however.
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>>44748386
Sounds like you need to stop hanging out with redpiller faux-alpha type fuckboys if you get into "fights" over women.

>>44748340
>implying
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>>44748400

>fights

There's no fighting. It's well established that all women belong to the DM.

And I am always the DM.
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>>44739944
Yes, but it was back in middle-school where we thought "had sex twice and then fought about it" constituted a relationship.

She gave me records of an ERP she played with a bunch of people (she was a very sexually mature middle-schooler. Don't know if it was her hormones or anything. She literally did more porn than me, and she was REALLY into ERP).

I told her that her character is shallow as all fuck, the sex scenes aren't realistic and the writing is abominable. And I pointed out spelling errors.

She left me, the bitch. But at least I don't have to read anymore stories where "lesbian" means "fists up to the elbow as a greeting".
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>>44748464
Who even wants a fist in their vagina to begin with.
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>>44748464
>"lesbian" means "fists up to the elbow as a greeting".
any relation with Moon over June?
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>>44748485
She was fucking OBSESSED with it. We never could get there in real-life and I don't think she even liked the idea so much physically, but when she wrote lesbians (WHICH WAS ALL THE FUCKING TIME. FOR HOW MUCH SHE LIKED DICK SHE SURE AS FUCK LIKED WRITING ABOUT LESBIANS) it was done SO OFTEN, SO BADLY, SO MUCH that it was just unbearable. Complete virgins who have never met each other (but it's okay: she knows the other one's a lesbian because, I shit you not, SHE SAW A YURI MAGAZINE IN HER DRAWER THE DAY BEFORE) pull their pants off anyplace, anytime, and after about three seconds fingering to get wet (-er. Of course, by the time the pants are down they're wet enough to make puddles on the floor beneath them) IN GOES THE ENTIRE FUCKING ARM.
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>>44748547
Damn, son. That's some pent up rage and sexual frustration if I ever saw those.
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>>44739944
No, but a relationship has cost me tabletop.
I chose poorly.
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>>44745646

>Oh my! Someone said something nice to another anon! The raw and virile manliness of 4chan is at stake! Down with empathy, DEUS VULT!
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>>44739944
Does it count if it started a great relationship which was still doomed to failure?
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>>44748865
You mean anon or the chick?
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I managed to make out with a pretty normal girl over a game of Reversi once
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>>44749109
Yes.
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>>44749534

The only answer, really.
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>>44745633

In my experience, no. My current table has no one overweight, no hygiene issues, and are generally socially functional. The most autistic thing about us is that everyone but one player is an engineer, so we have our own set of issues.
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>>44745633
I America, yeah. Mostly because that's what average citizen is.
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>>44739944
I'm doing the FwB thing with my current DM.
The better I pork her during the week, the better luck my character has in the upcoming session.
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>>44750050

Are you my group?

27th.
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>>44750479
Is "pork" the operative word here?
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>>44750526
She's actually really skinny, like almost dangerously thin.
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>>44750607
I was talking about you
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>>44750526
>>44750607
>>44750631
I once let a fat girl top. Not as big a mistake as I'd thought it'd be but when she did that cowgirl thing it REALLY hurt my thighs.
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>>44750631

Anyone that calls anyone dangerously thin is going to be fat.
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>>44748400
>Sounds like you need to stop hanging out with redpiller faux-alpha type fuckboys if you get into "fights" over women.
Don't be naive. It doesn't have to be an overt brawl, or even an argument. If the group is four guys and a woman, something is going to give. That doesn't mean women shouldn't be allowed to play, but one has to at least acknowledge the effect a woman's presence has on a group like that.

>>44748464
>But at least I don't have to read anymore stories where "lesbian" means "fists up to the elbow as a greeting".
Physically cringed.
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>>44745633
It really depends. Some players are the "I sit around reading books and playing games all day so I'm overweight" kind, others are the "I poured all my energy for a couple days into making this sheet, wait when did I last eat" skinny type, while the grand majority just fall somewhere in-between.

As for socialness, the idea that they're "socially awkward" is a bit of a misnomer. They wouldn't be playing games if they were legitimately antisocial (or at the least they get kicked out very quickly for doing so). Tabletop games, even the competitive ones, are a social game that require communication and interaction. Some people have tabletops as their main source of all interactions and so get very good at communicating there (but nowhere else), while others expand upon to be good at talking with anybody from the lessons they learn playing games.
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>>44750654
>Anyone that calls anyone dangerously thin is going to be fat.
If they're a woman, sure, I'd believe that.
But there is such a thing as malnourishment and being underweight.
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>>44739944
Not yet, but my wife always complain I spend too much time with my games and not with her.
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>>44750895
>Physically cringed.
She was completely, obsessively, weirdly fascinated with fisting. Not for herself but as a concept.
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>>44750526
>>44750631
>>44750654
>he has a FWB
So, clearly not.
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A friends wife left him for me after he started bringing her to my games and now he doesn't speak to me.
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>>44739944
>Has tabletop ever cost you a relationship?
No. MAYBE if you counted my superstitious mother, MAYBE, but we weren't excaaaactly close to begin with.
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>>44743640
Youve never HAD relationship have you? Sure there has to be a connection but you don't have to be interested in every damn thing they are. My wife plays the occasional board game, otherwise not interested in gaming. She enjoys watching terrible police procedural shows, which other than a rare gem like Hannibal i cannot abide.
We both love Ghost in the Shell. There is crossover to be had man.
If we both were in each others shit all day we would kill each other.
plus my initial attraction to her was her huge rack, not her knowledge of the GiTS universe.
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>>44750519

Probably not, but any group consisting of mostly engineers probably has enough similarity that I might as well be.

The only person who isn't an engineer is the DM, who gets butt blasted when we point out the inconsistency of time and space in his world.
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>>44748265
Well played
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>>44743860
Yes. And then we should hit them with heavy sanctions on travel so I never have to deal with the shitters again.
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>>44751281
>plus my initial attraction to her was her huge rack, not her knowledge of the GiTS universe.

God's work, anon. Doing God's work.
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>>44748132
>Meeting a woman-hating gay guy.
You know, I honestly didn't think you guys were real.

THE MORE YOU KNOW
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I've had a relationship cost me a tabletop group.
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>>44753176
Same, actually. Broke up eventually but, holy shit, I never thought someone could be so intolerant of the interests of another person. Especially someone they said they loved.
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>>44739944
>Had a great boyfriend
>We both love roleplay so we form a group with some other friends
>Have lots of fun
>Notice he's getting kind of weird with me and more distant
>Find he he got one of the other players drunk and had sloppy mansex with them even though the other guy wasn't even homo
>Desperately doesn't want me to find out, find out anyways
>Accuses me of doing the same and throws a tantrum when I prove I didn't
>completely ditches me and manfucks everyone he can get his hands on
>Finally drops off the face of the world
>Find out 3 years later that he got massively obese and suffered both a heart attack and a stroke at separate times.
>Still gaming with the other two guys and having a great time
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>>44740545
Do you want to talk about it, anon?
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>>44754156
>Still gaming with the other two guys and having a great time
You are or he is?
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>>44754920
I am. Fatty droopyface is off with the pony fuckers these days.
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>>44739944
I feel inadequate here, tabletop made me find two of my gf so far, first with pathfinder then with Call of Cthulhu.
And they were actually the sanest I dated.
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>>44748326
>false dichotomy is a fallacy

My table has 6 people, 5 male 1 female. 3 of the dudes get pussy on demand, I'm married, and the other dude is dating the girl.

The secret isn't some magic ratio of chromosomes, it's avoiding playing with beta faggots who aren't there to just play a game.
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>>44755818
I'm a beta faggot, but I'm there to play the game. What do I do?
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>>44755818
>>44748386


Was directed at this dong
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>>44755867
Don't let your faggotry ruin the fun for everyone else.
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>>44755931
I can try, sir.
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The reverse, actually. A while back some friends tried to set me up with a reasonably attractive gal who hangs out at one of the game stores in my area. She was a lot of fun to game with, and if that was as far as it went I'd have given it a shot.

But at one point I heard her getting into a discussion with the store owner (a lunatic) about the ongoing cops vs. minorities tension. Apparently her stance was, "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out." Didn't much care which side she was talking about, I don't need that kind of crazy in my life.
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>>44756273
You made the right choice, anon. Try to find someone moderate or mellow even if they're on the extreme side.
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>>44751281
>plus my initial attraction to her was her huge rack
This is the correct selection method.
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>>44739944
a friendly remainder
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>>44747849
Awesome, we could finally make the Irvings a legitimate monarchy and enact strict emmigration laws to prevent all the young people from leaving inland.

Confederation was a bad idea, but it's too late to back out now.
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>>44751083

Don't be such a manchild, damn it!
Grow up!
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>>44739944
No, but I didn't want her to play in any RPG anymore because she was That Gal right at the start.

If I ever get a girlfriend, I need to see how she does solo (not like that, perv) and then see how it goes in a group (also not like that). Plus I need to see if I'm not favoring or anti-favoring her.
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>>44757050
>Plus I need to see if I'm not favoring or anti-favoring her.
like that?
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>>44740545
The bitterness is real.
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>>44757119
...yes
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>>44751090

Well to be fair i have a weird fascination with anal sex with elves, but only as a concept.
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>>44739944
I lost my best friend over tabletops and broken promises.
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>>44756579
...Why would I WANT to play hard enough?
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>>44757050
>I need to see how she does solo (not like that, perv) and then see how it goes in a group (also not like that).
Stop trying to slut-shame us, check your privilige
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>>44757825
Anon, didn't you know?
roleplayers get together every year in the roleplaying competition and whoever roleplays the hardest will be crowned the king of roleplaying
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>>44758000
>roleplayers get together every year in the roleplaying competition and whoever roleplays the hardest will be crowned the king of roleplaying

Oh god fucking dammit, Steve! TELL THE WHOLE WORLD WHY DON'T YOU!?

SECRET ROLEPLAYING COMPETITION! SECRET!

Not even trips are going to let you off the hook this time.
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>>44758428
Dammit Steve
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>>44757857
>slut-shame
Are you a feminist or something?
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>>44763652
He's using feminist terms in an exaggerated manner to imply the anon he was replying to was thinking far too hard about making sure our minds weren't the gutter.
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>>44739944
That would imply I'll ever be worth a relationship.

Why do you think I'm here, if not for being as undesirable as is humanly possible?
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>>44739944
They always end before that can be a factor. The top two reason people end it with me is

>Its weird and creepy that a guy likes to cook and clean.

>I just dont feel comfortable being with a submissive guy.

I quiet glad though being in a relationship is pointless if you are not with someone who loves you for you and does not care what society thinks.
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>>44763833
>in an exaggerated manner
You've missed the occupation.
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>>44763833
I could also have made a Freud joke about projecting, but that would have flown even higher over his head
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>>44763897
>Its weird and creepy that a guy likes to cook and clean.
Wait what? I was under the impression that women loved a guy who could cook, and who kept himself and his space clean
Am I going insane
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>>44764031
Women want a guy who looks after them, not a guy who acts like a woman.
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>>44764070
>men are supposed to be slobs
Also, how is cooking for someone NOT looking after them?
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>>44764031
What
>>44764070

I've had a girl break the fuck down and flip out on me when I it really sunk in that I wanted to be the primary chore doer and the cooker. It just would not click with her. I hat to explain it three times.

People like a guy that "picks up" after himself but always has in the back of their mind that guys are naturally messy. They dont like it when a guy actively deep cleans. It catches them off guard and challenges their concepts of what a man is.

Cooking and cleaning is like meditation to me. Its my crack. I could never be in a relationship unless my partner let me do most if not all of the cooking and cleaning.
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>>44764127
>how is cooking for someone NOT looking after them?

Because cooking outside of barbecuing and other "manly" forms of cooking is traditionally a female past time. Its nice when the guy does it every once in a while but that's it. If the guy cooks a lot that means in the social contract women are expected to do something else to make their keep. They dont want to give cooking up.
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>>44747795
That's what fuckbuddies and getting shitfaced at bars are for.
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>>44764127
Psychologically it feels like walking home and finding your boyfriend dressed in your panties.
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>>44751131
Why are you such a shit friend anón?
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>>44739944
I've never had a relationship so no.
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>All about your stupid games
>Wearing the Amulet of Kings

Mythic Dawn pls go
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>>44765956
>I'm breaking up with you
>So the stars were right, and this is the day.
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>>44764397
Wait what? When I did that once at my ex's apartment, it got me laid.

I mean she was a little weird, I have a nice svelte figure, and I was doing it on purpose to be an asshole and a tease, but it was still wearing her panties.

And I looked damn good in them.
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>>44748961
Why is it masculinity that's the problem? The nastiest I've seen people act towards each other was two women.
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>>44748413
I really wish this wasn't true. I'm the only guy in my social click that has a girlfriend. And even then a girl I barely talk to dumped a friend because she had feelings for me.

I was very clear I already was ain a relationship so i didn't really figure that bit out. But the bitterness is real. But then again, i think i am the only socially competent person that's does not look like a slavic war criminal.
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>>44764127
>>44764203
Depends on the type of cooking. Gourmet cooking is traditionally seen as a male profession. So is simply any form of cooking which is highly complex and/or requires expert timing, coordination or reflexes.
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>4chan is accepting of poopdicks and cucks now

WHAT HAPPENED BREHS?
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>>44764015
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>>44766805
>le internet hate machine

>>>/b/
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Not at all, I even date one of my players now.
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>>44750050
>The most autistic thing about us is that everyone but one player is an engineer
Engineers aren't bad to play with. PhDs are way more autistic.

t. engineer
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>>44748030
What the fuck is happening to /tg/ tonight?
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>>44751131
Sounds like you need to treat you friends better.
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DM suggested I bring my bf to the game, they ended up fucking in the other room each time while I sat and cried.

Haven't played live tabletop since.
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>>44767895
Welcome to the bitterness wrought by being lied to by every romantic comedy movie ever made, and then being told to "Suck it up lol she doesn't owe you anything" after being strung along like fucking christmas lights for 6+ months.
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>>44768044
Anyone watching romantic comedies unironically deserve their fate.
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>>44740545
>>>/r9k/
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>>44739944
Sauce?
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>>44748961
Being nice isn't why we're here
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>>44768110
So you ignore the shithead that actually was posting /r9k/ tier shit and go for the guy that quite possibly was in a relationship with an actual manipulative, cheating, whore.

It does happen from time to time, you know. There are some women like that.
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>>44768044
People absolutely don't owe you anything. Acting like a decent human being doesn't entitle you to any sort of intimacy, sexual or otherwise. Quit acting like an entitled sperglord and respect yourself enough to not have such a twisted world view.
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>>44768334
Don't bother, anon. He's dug himself in so deeply into his defense mechanisms that an army wouldn't be able to dig him out. It's up to him to understand how things work, or he'll just spend the rest of his life self-righteously telling himself that the grapes are sour and he's only alone because others aren't worth it.
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>>44768044
>>44768370

Not the same anon but I don't want to give up on a bittered soul. I was the same once, and this could lead to a path of hatred and resentment towards women. Don't become one of those Redpill ranters and read No More Mr. Niceguy. People tell me that self-help books are shit, but this book opened a world of possibilities and information for me.
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>>44768334
>people don't owe you anything!
>no one is allowed to have feelings or emotions about anything unless I personally think it's a valid thing to have feelings about
No one owes you food either, but I bet you'd be right pissed if everyone around you told you you're not allowed to eat and wouldn't ever give you or help you get food.
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>>44768955
You will literally die if you don't get enough food. If you don't get enough sex, all that'll happen is your wanking hand will get sore.
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>>44769063
If you don't have sex, your genes will die. Fear over gene death is just as valid as ego death.
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>>44768955
I'd stop feeling sorry for myself and go get a job so I could eat you dense bastard, take the hint, be a man and take control of your own life.
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>>44769136
>I'd stop feeling sorry for myself and go get a job so I could eat
>get a job
Sure
>So I could eat
No one sells you any food, and when your employer finds out about you wanting to eat he fires you.
You're be upset.
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>>44742415
She sounds like a grade A cunt. Looks like you dodged that bullet pretty early.
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>>44769146
The problem that you're having is entirely your own bud, your situation is absolutely nothing like the hypothetical you're trying to push. I'm sorry if it isn't what you wanna hear and I'm not trying to knock you down, I just really can't stand when people have a situation they aren't happy with and choose to just roll around in it and blame the world rather than do something about it.
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>>44769264
> your situation is absolutely nothing like the hypothetical you're trying to push.
It absolutely is
>no one lets you have sex
>if you try to get sex on your own, you get punished
>if you tell people you want sex, people get mad and you might get fired if you make the wrong people mad
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>>44769287
It's not similar at all. If you want to buy sex, you can.
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>>44769301
>If you want to buy sex, you can.
4chan is an american website.
Guess what is illegal in America?
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>>44768180
Yes, but how is that /tg/ related? The question is "has gaming ever cost you a relationship," not "bitch about the women in your life!"
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>>44769125
Donate sperm.
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>>44768955
>>44769125
Holy fuck, are you listening to yourself?
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>>44769307
Not every part of America.
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>>44769287
What the actual fuck.

>nobody will let you have sex
>implying there's some kind of conspiracy preventing you from ever getting a gf
>implying the problem isn't that you're an absolute asshole
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>>44769287
People get mad at you because you act like the whole world is against you flailing on top of some poor girl. You need to stop acting like there's some magical force preventing you from fucking someone and take some responsibility and make some changes, chiefly to your attitude towards life in general.
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>>44739944
No, but my relationship cost me tabletop gaming, because we moved away from our hometown and I'm yet to find a new group in this city.
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>>44769307
Downloading things without paying, but guess what everyone does with impunity.

You're a jackass, but far worse than that, you're delusional and you're pushing it on others. You can pay for sex. No matter where you live, I can guarantee you there's someone within an hour's ride by bus, tops, whom you can pay for sex. It's probably not nearly as far.

But you won't do that, because what you're looking for isn't sex, it's self-validation. And you dread the moment that would come after sex, when you'd have to come to terms with the fact that even now that you did it, you're not yet happy. And of course, you'll immediately put up a battery of excuses like how it "didn't really count" because she was a prostitute, or how it's worthless because you have to pay for it, or because her pimp's not a nice man, but at the end of the day you'd know that is it. Making excuses is a hell of a lot easier than changing yourself for the better, but guess which one has an ice-cube's chance in a blast furnace of actually making you happier at some point down the road (not to mention everyone around you, unless you conform to the sorry stereotype to the point of interacting only with those who would confirm your biases like your social life is one big cognitive circlejerk).
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>>44769404
>>44769410
>>44769428
>>44769444
>All these Just World fallacy spewing normalfags
Yes, I'm sure the reason that there are people who are involuntarily celibate is because 100% of them are just plain bad people.
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>>44769467
Definitely not all of them, but you certainly are. And if you decide not to make some changes guess what else won't change...
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>>44768144
we are here because we want to be for whatever reason we want to be. Don't impose your perception of what is wanted on me, ill jack off.

Dont...order me around like that sempai...it makes me hard~uuuuyuuu
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The problem is in the social contract. Traditionally for a mid line family the female was expected to look after the baby, keep house, and cook. The man was expected to win home and bread. For all intents and purposes the man was the woman's employer. Back then this was considered fairly equal. To preform these duty's women had to go to market daily for food. Go to the well or river daily for water. Cooking normally took hours of preparation. Homes were of poor quality with many openings that let dirt and grime in. This is all without a child. The time and energy multiples with each additional child. With so much work involved it shifting responsibility from man to woman and vice versa was fine. Both were equal at the end and it was more about getting everything done to stay alive and healthy.

All this changed with modern technology. The social contract became more and more slanted in the woman's favor. Going to the well turned to turning on your kitchen tap. Going to market turned into a weekly or monthly event with refrigeration. With improvements to comes dirt and grime only started accumulating in key areas that with vigilance was easy to keep in check with modern cleaning tools and chemicals. Even taking care of children was made easier with toys and children's programming.

Soon the man worked all day and the woman worked for an hour a day give or take. This greatly favors the woman. When a man wants to start taking on responsibility's from the females side of the social contract it means she now has to take responsibility's from the male side something they do not want to do at all since it is so greatly slanted in their favor in to days society. This why there is such a strong backlash against men who like to clean and cook and want to be the primary chore doer. Now there is nothing on the females side of the social contract.
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>>44769483
>Definitely not all of them, but you certainly are.
There you go again with that bullshit.
You don't know anything about me outside the context of my posts which could be partial or total fabrications.
But because you disagree with what I post that means I must be an awful person in reality.
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>>44739944
no, but it did bring up some things that made me realize what an awful person I am.

>one of my best friends is a girl, known eachother since we were 12-13 (shes a year older)
>She's fat, but not obese in any way. Actually does a lot of swimming and occasionally goes on walks with me
>not the best of GM's, but she's fair - for the most part
>plays Lizardmen and Tau
>about 5 years ago, she, me and three others were involved in a game of rogue-trader, where after it a friend said she was really into me
>a few weeks later, I work up courage to ask her out
>we go on a date, have a good time, generally get along well. Didn't even feel weird
>me on the other hand, being a scared retard or something, breaks it off with her, and over the phone. on Valentines day.
>a few months go by, and we slowly start to re-integrate as friends, which we are still

It's weird, in so many ways. I like her more as a friend than in any sort of romantic way, and yet I do want her in a lesser way too. It's hard to explain, really.
But mostly, I think its that bullshit that I was taught by my sister
>if you don't feel amazing when near them all the time, you're not in love at all

sorry for blog
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>>44769467
I'm sorry, but the situation you're describing isn't anywhere near celibacy. I have the utmost respect for monks, ascetics and other people who've chosen to distance themselves from sex for ethical or philosophical reasons.

What you're describing isn't anything like that. According to what you yourself have written, you WANT sex very, very much (in fact, you've gone to the ridiculous extent of comparing it to FOOD, and implying that society is killing you by denying you free samples of it), you're just failing miserably to get any and are trying to tell yourself it's because everyone else is mean.
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>>44764031
>>44764070
This is true for men as well one of my boyfriends left me over the fact that I made him breakfast in bed. His words were literally "If I wanted to date a woman I would date a woman."

It is ingrained very deeply how a man should act even in nontraditional relationships. This presents a problem as there is no option to take. Society only cares about what you look like. Looks start the relationship, personality continues it. When a man looks completely like a man he is expected to act completely like a man. When the disconnect happens and the man acts like a woman it makes everyone uncomfortable even if they are more open and receptive.
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>>44769509
This has nothing to do with the way I see you personally. If you run around acting like someone owes you sex just because you want it bad enough then you're acting like an asshole. We're beyond the point of debating a subjective issue here, Honestly I'd be stoked if you were fabricating all of this, but in the event that you;re not you need to know that you need to make a few changes before things will get better.
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>>44769125
In the case of people like you, that would unquestionably be the best case scenario.
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>>44769565
Stalin Johnson is right!
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>>44769533
>I'm sorry, but the situation you're describing isn't anywhere near celibacy

> people who are involuntarily celibate
>who are involuntarily celibate
> are involuntarily celibate
>involuntarily celibate
>involuntarily

Did you not actually read the post?
>and implying that society is killing you by denying you free samples of it
Reread my argument. I never stated sex should be free. I am saying that you are being actively denied food ( sex ), even if you are willing to pay for it.
>you're just failing miserably to get any and are trying to tell yourself it's because everyone else is mean.
You're still doing it, do normalfags even think?

And before you start posting about how I made a post shitting on women, and that is evidence of me being bad >>44768955 was my first post in the thread
>>44769565
> If you run around acting like someone owes you sex just because you want it bad enough
Fuck, do normalfags inherently have terrible reading comprehension. Again, no where did I state people owe each other sex or anyone is entitled to sex or even free sex.
I'm literally saying that if you were actively denied all (legal) avenues of sex you would be pretty upset.
>>44769567
There we go again, haven't actually said anything bad.
I guess in the normalfag mind whenever two people disagree on a subject at least one of them must be an objectively terrible human being.
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>>44769608
>normalfags
REEEEEEEEEE NORMIES GET OUT
LOOK AT MY FEDORA COLLECTION
WHY WON'T WOMEN HAVE SEX WITH ME
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>>44769624
>normie
A recent /r9k/ meme
Not the same as
>normalfag
Which has been used on this website for several years.

The fact you can't tell the difference and use fedora memes shows how new you are.
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>>44739944
>gf buys me board games regularly on birthday/anniversary
>eagerly comes to our DnD sessions and even though she is still too shy to roleplay she is always listening closely to the story unfolding
>asked me recently to teach her how to DM

Nah. Life is good
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>>44769513
>breaks it off with her, and over the phone. on Valentines day.
Mate, if she didn't hold a grudge over that, then she's a fucking keeper.
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>>44769637
>Which has been used on this website for several years.
Yes. Most often to refer to people who don't play tabletop games. It has no relevance to this discussion and largely serves as a buzzword to apply to people who disagree with you, which in turn makes you look like a twat.
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>>44769608
I actually completely agree with, but the difference is that I've had sex, and let me tell you how I accomplished that without hiring a prostitute.
I used to be the same exact way as you, so listen to my advice.

You have to understand that you are OVERESTIMATING women. You are treating them like they are exactly like men and are on the same mental level.
Once I started being appropriately dismissive and treating them like the children they are instead of like equals. Once I started being a total ass to them is when I started getting laid regularly.

Don't treat women like you treat men because they clearly hate it. They will say otherwise, but their actions show the truth.
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>>44769706
I personally don't care about sex that much either.
I just don't like how everyone implies that people who are unable to have sex and are upset about their inability to do so have something wrong with them or an inability to have sex makes a person bad or morally wrong somehow.
It's not about sex, it's about people ( normalfags) shitting on people who already have it rough and making it out to always 100% of the time be their own fault.
Like rich people telling poors to just stop being poor and if they can't it's because the poor person is dumb and lazy and no other possibility exists.
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>>44769608
>There we go again, haven't actually said anything bad.
If you honestly cannot see how it's bad that you've just said society is killing you by "killing your genes" because it doesn't oblige people to have sex with you, than you are truly beyond help. I'm sorry. I've tried my best.

Good luck to you, and good day.
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>>44769733
>Feeling bad about not being able to have sex makes you a terrible person
I hope you have a shitty day. Then I can blame your shitty day on you.
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>>44769732
I get that, but it's completely natural to want a relationship with another person and I'm giving you my own experience with that situation to help you out.

Complaining about normalfags being dumb normalfags with absolutely no empathy is just pissing into the wind. It won't get you anywhere. Focus on yourself and ignore them. There's no point bothering with them because they've bought into the agenda force fed to them since they were kids. It's ingrained.
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>>44769608
You legitimately compared sex to food and if you're actually this pissed off and don't think it's your fault that things are the way they are then I'm inclined to think trhat comes with an unwarranted sense of entitlement, stop being a child.
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>>44769732
>people who are unable to have sex and are upset about their inability to do so have something wrong with them
But it's pretty true. Being a bitter faggot posing as a nice guy won't get you laid. It will merely make you even more bitter.
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>>44769780
>You legitimately compared sex to food
The human species ceases to exist without either.
Seems to be an apt comparison.
But because you as an individual don't need sex to continue to exist, you think it isn't important with is egotistical as fuck.
>>44769788
>But it's pretty true
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>>44769732
But you ARE lazy. It's already been pointed out to you plenty of times that there is no mystical force preventing you from having sex. There is nothing, absolutely nothing stopping you asides the fact that it would require more effort to get off your ass and start working on making yourself a more attractive/sociable person than it is to complain about women having impossible standards. Or hell, don't put in what most people consider the bare minimum required to be a decent human being. Pay a prostitute. All you need to have for that is a job.

You do have a job, don't you?

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm bullying you. I'm not into gloating in front of the weak, but that's when the weak at least know where they're standing. It's not bad that some people need to go on welfare for the time it takes them to find a job, so long as they really use that time to find a job. Leave their house early each morning, look for the jobs the whole day, put real effort into it, get interviews, get the right skills, talk to people, even look them up on the internet.

People who take their welfare than go back home to buy videogames with it and complain on the internet that they'd like to have even more free money are a burden on society.

And on the off chance you're going to pull the mental illness card and tell me it's literally impossible for you to not be an asshole or to put effort into something because you're autistic, or depressed, or have OCD: fuck you. I've met plenty of people with those conditions and worse, who've started off worse places than you (you know how I know that? Because evidently, you have internet access, which means you're not homeless or at least have a cellphone. That's more than many of them had) and worked their asses off to change and get better. If you really have such a problem, and it's so bad that you simply cannot do anything about it, at least don't try to drag down the rest of society by complaining about it's their fault.
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>>44769662
that's the thing, I know she is, yet I can't bring myself to do anything about it. She's better off without me, because lord knows I've got more than enough problems.
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>>44769801
You are not the fucking human species, shitlord. You are you. An individual. Possibly an evolutionary dead end, but in any case an individual. The HUMAN RACE would cease to exist without sex, but the human race, as an entity, doesn't have a problem with it either.

You, on the other hand, as a fucked up individual, would not die simply because you can't get sex. You will die because you can't have food.

I know that you know all this very well and are just pretending to be stupid for the sake of this argument, because if you were stupid enough not to you wouldn't be reading and writing, but take my word for it: it's not getting you anywhere.
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No but these things are why I am not inviting my boyfriend to my current group (in addition to it probably being akward for the rest, even if they are a bunch of faggots)
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>>44769801
Dude, 60% of the men who have ever lived died without having sex.
It's not like it's a odd thing not having sex despite what modern mentally ill faggots will tell you.
It doesn't matter if you spread your genes or whatnot. There's plenty of escapism and hobbies to lose yourself in, and sex isn't a requirement of it.
It's actually not your fault that women haven't had sex with you, women in general haven't had sex with 60% of the men who ever existed, it's just nature. Women will always, always go solely for the top 20% of men and sometimes settle for the next 20% after they lose their value after years of fucking.
Fuck life and focus on ideals.
Like cute anime girls.
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>>44769732
It may or may not be your fault that nobody wants to have sex with you. It isn't your fault that being lonely makes you sad. It is your fault that you've chosen to obsess over it to this degree instead of temporarily accepting it and doing something which brings you joy instead of misery.
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>>44769829
>You are not the fucking human species,
You're right, but the genes I carry that are the blueprint of my existence aren't solely my own.
>shitlord
Oh. I'll stop responding now.
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>>44769801
Seeing as how neither you or myself will have any grand impact on whether or not the human race will continue to survive, your comparison in todays society is nothing short of absurdity, I get that you're pissed off and I'm not saying you can't feel that way, but the way you choose to respond to your adversity is wrong, when you're in a bad situation and you actively choose to do nothing while blaming everyone else for it, you've moved past the point of empathy and straight into cunt town.
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I feel like this thread has deviated into an area which it was never meant to go.
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>>44769925
and not even the fun kind of deviation like /d/ and playing tabletop with monster girl waifus
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I got my current partner from beating her and her friend at RISK. God bless you Quebec, you just wouldn't fall would you
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>>44769903
>the genes I carry that are the blueprint of my existence aren't solely my own.
No, 96% of them are chimp genes too.

Those seem to be the ones you're using right now.
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>>44769935
R U a Katawa?
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>>44769935
Is she mute with blue hair?
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>>44769935
>Risk creating relationships instead of destroying them
I think you got a defective copy of the game. You should get a refund.
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>>44769935
I managed to win a game of something like Risk by being Brazil and never declaring war on anybody.

The other guys exhausted all their resources fighting each other, and I didn't spend any of mine.
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>>44739944
>Has tabletop ever cost you a relationship?

Not yet.
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>>44769944
>>44769947
I'm blaming Katawa Shoujo for the twinge of disappointment I felt when the cute deaf girl I met once had curly brown hair, not short blue. No glasses, either.

On the other hand she was a lot less bitchy, too. Maaaaybe would've tried hitting on her, but she was with her boyfriend at the moment so fat chance of that. I did screw a girl who was legally blind, though. Real gorgeous, but too Russian for my taste. You don't know what it's like until you've tried going steady with a Russian. Blind or not, there is no excuse.
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>>44769806
Fucking this.

Heres the reality. Women and men are both human beings, and you have to treat them as such. Theyre not fucking vending machines where you put in a coin and get out what you want. You don't earn anything by doing anything for another human being.

If you wouldn't have sex with you, then the chances are someone else won't either.
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>>44769944
>>44769947
I think I'm missing the reference. She was/is cute though; solid 8/10 on the kawaii-o-meter
>>44769964
I actively pushed against both of them, ending up being whittled back to Quebec (only Quebec) and Australia. They focused so much on trying to take Quebec I steamed my way across asia. By that point though it became an obsession to her. 1 guy on Quebec and 15 reinforcements couldn't take him.
>>44769950
Hmmmmm maybe. I wonder if "incorrect neurological response from playing" is a user fault though?
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>>44770013
I was playing Supremacy, I think. It had L-stars.

The only reason I won was because the other players correctly ID'd me as completely useless, so ignored me to deal with the actual problems.
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>>44768144
Sorry if that's actually true for you, but most people on /tg/ are actually pretty nice
There's a reason why we say best board you know
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>>44769806
Entirely different anon here, I'm trying to fix my luck with the ladies for a year even though I am literally autistic. I'm incredibly curious what these less fortunate people did to get better at it. Could you please tell me?

>>44769732
I understand that sexuality looks like a capitalism of fun. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. But most of the time, it is their own fault. Though sometimes it's because they didn't know any better, mother nature wasn't fair with them or their upbringing was absolutely awful.

I don't know about your situation, anon. I don't know you. Why would I even bother to help? I guess that even though I should be devoid of social norms and lack empathy I still empathize with you.

Here:
http://www.nicknotas.com/dating-101/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8s_jkFi2Uk and read that book: No More Mr. Niceguy
And Models by Mark Manson, too. It's not science, but it makes more sense than pseudoscience anyway.
And it's fun to look for clothing after reading the Kinowear Bible. All these things helped me step out of the self-sabotaging bitterness. I stopped complaining and defending my complaints so I could still complain... Yes, complaining doesn't do shit.
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>>44770117
>best board
This board hasn't even been passable for at least 6 years now.
This board has so many generals that it's just a tabletop version of /vg/.
I can't even say that actually. It's a quest version of /vg/
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>>44770137
It's a balance. Being a bitter faggot doesn't help, unless you're attractive.

On the other, being some overly positive doormat won't help you.

Don't listen to people on /tg/ for dating advice. The kind of women these people date aren't worth their oxygen. Dyed hair monstrosities from their college rpg group from what I've seen.
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>>44770194
The worse being a bitter faggot trying to act like a positive doormat.

>The kind of women these people date aren't worth their oxygen.
wew rude no bully
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>>44770137
Specifically referring to autists here, from what I've seen and from what I've talked to them the key seems to be to (perhaps paradoxically) try and view human interaction as a bit of a mechanical process, just an extremely complex one. You do some things, and other things happen. This is a lot like the "Vending Machine" fallacy, except that it acknowledges that the things you need to do are variable, based on the circumstances, and more complicated than "buy her gifts, receive sex in return".

In some situations, people expect you to smile. In others, they expect you to laugh. Sometimes, it's proper to (humorously) make a snide comment at someone. Other times the same comment may come off as insulting.

Even if they don't make sense to you, learn and analyze these circumstances. Understand the social and facial cues leading to each reaction and learn to quickly choose and apply said reaction.

In terms of "getting your life on track": use "autism" to your advantage. Be orderly and methodical about it (though trying not to become too rigid). There are no magical answers but there are some things which are definitely positive and going about them can be a start. Make a list of the things you think you need to do, preferably by day, and make sure you at least try to do them. Havefriends or family members help you if you're having trouble decide.

Need to get fit? Make sure that you visit the gym for 2 hours each time, 3 times a week. Make a list of the exercises you'll do each time, and stick to it. List the things you should and shouldn't eat, and adjust your diet accordingly.

You think you need to be clean? Make sure to shower twice a day, soap and shampoo as needed (ask someone how often you need to, or you'll end up damaging your skin/hair). Brush your teeth 3 times a day. Shave and use cologne.

I won't say it's simply, but it isn't rocket science either. And people with autism are sometimes the most equipped for dealing with complex mechanisms.
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>>44770263
>Even if they don't make sense to you, learn and analyze these circumstances. Understand the social and facial cues leading to each reaction and learn to quickly choose and apply said reaction.
As a fellow aspie, this is the best solution. The key to understand how to interact with other people is to realize that you don't really need to feel or think things, you just need to look the part. In all odds, they aren't really amused every single time they laugh. Laughing is just something that happens under certain social situations. Learn to detect those situations, and laugh when they happen. Try thinking about it as a game. In a game, you block when an enemy attacks, and you dodge when they charge, and you attack them back when they're vulnerable. How do you know when those happen? They telegraph it. Now, real people don't glow red before they intend to laugh, but they still telegraph their intentions. Imagine, in your mind, that if they telegraph the attack "laugh", you need to quickly recall the correct reaction and use it. You lose social health otherwise.

That's what I did, anyway.
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>>44770263
This is the most beautifully detailed, informative, tactful explanation I've seen. I will take this at heart. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
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