I am joining a 5e campaign next week, it will be my first time since I was very young that I played Dungeons and Dragons.
I'm attempting to read the rule books bow, but the gm said not even to bother and just learn how to create a character.
Is it worth reading all of the manual? Also what class would be good for a starting character.
I'm thinking about ranger.
>>44719928
Read up the character creation stuff first, look over the classes, see what you like.
It's probably easier to go in to the first session not reading it since it sounds like he'll run you through an introduction, but read it after if you have time.
>>44719928
Read the chapter on general combat and how skills work. There's cover rules and stuff you should learn
I bet your dm makes up a bunch of rules though
read over the basic rules and character creation. Its really simple so I think your dm will create his own rules
>>44719928
Tell the DM to go die, you're not interested in playing d&d for dummies ( aka 5e).
>>44719928
Play a Druid. They are the strongest class.
Or a Warlock and build up Eldritch blast, its a monster early on.
There is no respecting, all sale are final.
If you do a point buy just buy the bare minimum you'll need feats are better almost every time.
>>44720619
Autism...?
>>44719928
Ranger is not the best. If you want to be a bow-and-arrow person, go Fighter or Rogue.
>>44722640
The classes already chosen are a rouge and a warlock/rouge.
>>44720678
Druid sounds fun.
>>44720619
This
>>44720678
>Play a Druid. They are the strongest class.
That actually goes to the Bard. Moon druids fall behind at 5th level and beyond.
>>44722953
>>44720619
What's wrong with 5e? I was told by many friends that it's absolutely fantastic and saves the game after how terrible 4e was.
Or is this just memes?
>>44723012
It's just memes by mad 3eaboos and 4rries.
>>44723012
Its awful on every level.
Paladins aren't "good".
Advantage vs disadvantage hurrr.
Shit game on every front.
>>44723033
Hey, I love 4E and I love 5E as well. 3E is not the best, but it's playable in some regard...
>>44723348
Well, you're not a mad 4rry then.
Try to ignore the fa/tg/uys bitching about 5e. I play it, it's fun.
More importantly, a ranger can be a good step back into roleplaying. I'm playing with a guy who just started playing again after a long hiatus and he picked a ranger because he wanted to play the quiet type, since he wasn't confident in his roleplaying abilities.
We've been playing for over 6 months and his character is full of personality and he has fun interactions. It took him a few weeks to get back into the swing of things, but the quiet ranger turned out to be a good choice for him. Shooting and stealthing rangers are also mechanically simple in 5e, so it shouldn't be too hard to get used to the system, especially since it's fairly simple right now.
It all comes down to what type of character you want to play and how confident you are in your ability to roleplay as well as the type of group you'll be playing with. You could always go with the young naive fighter/knight who will need to be mentored by the other players. This worked for me when I joined a group of older players and now my character has ''grown up" to be part of the team.
>>44723012
Yeah, 4e was so terrible, with its deep tactical combat, huge array of playable characters archetypes on-par with each-other, fun out of combat challenge system, impeccable encounter building guidelines, including ones for monster, trap and terrain creation...
Whew, so glad we could put behind us all of that shit!
>>44723522
>Whew, so glad we could put behind us all of that shit!
Me too.
>>44723529
I thought you would be.
>>44723522
>Huge array...
>every class is a psuedo mage
>>44723789
>I prefer essentials style classes
It's okay, they were made for you.
>>44723789
>having things to do other than "stand still and attack" makes you a caster
hgbgkgllbllflgbfi'm so glad i started playing good systems
>>44723012
Ignore the bitter grognards. 5e is fine, especially for newbies.
>>44723789
^^this
>>44724414
>I use much healing surge
>kasumi takanomi!!
Yay 4 fighters!
4th edition is commonly ( and correctly), referred to as the "anime wow faggot" edition.
>come to /tg/ after a bit of time
>come into this thread
>Edition Wars
Welp, guess its time to see if there is anything new in the world of porn again.
>>44726045
Well, there's always something new to discover in the world of porn.
Care to "broaden your horizons"?
>>44725955
>5e is fine, especially for newbies
This is true primarily because they don't yet have the faculties to assess just how poorly designed it is.
>>44726045
You will certainly be missed. Your presence here has been a great comfort to all of /tg/.
>>44726107
It actually is pretty well designed. For what it tries to do, it does it very well.
4e might be fun, but it just wasn't D&D, it was a very different type of system.
>>44724414
No, literally having to cast a martial ability, with cooldown and all, made them casters.
>>44719928
Read the character creation, at least skim the skills part, and read the short chapter on combat.
>>44726107
The word "streamlined", comes to mind. Which is the exact opposite of what I look for in an RPG.
>>44719928
A DM not wanting players to know the rules is the biggest red flag there is. I can't say for sure that he's a power-tripping asshole who doesn't want "rules lawyers" to get in the way of his mean-spirited fun, but it's likely he is.
>>44726157
You're right, poorly designed isn't the best way to put it. The game does what the designers wanted: >>44726191
A better complaint would be to say the degree to which it's been gutted doesn't leave anything engaging beyond surface level. And bounded accuracy is fucking unforgivable.
>>44726206
>DM mentioning waifu, anime, mlp, or telling you you'll all be meeting his awesome dmpc, are also a red flag to bail.
Yea, "don't worry about the rules", is very odd.
>>44726206
The GM may also simply be ignorant of the rules themselves and unwilling to learn them.
>>44726255
Which is gonna be a big problem.
>>44726244
>And bounded accuracy is fucking unforgivable.
Why? I think it's great, I absolutely can't stand bloat. But again, that's just me. I'm an OSRfag, I love what they did in 5th, but I don't think 4th is bad or wrong, just different.
It's not better, it's just mechanically different, and I still play it when I want to play that kind of game.
>>44723012
Nothing is wrong with 5e. In my opinion its the best edition, I've had many hours of fun with it.
>>44723096
definitely autism
>>44726276
It makes the d20 weigh more than skills and attributes in determining the outcome of a PC's actions.
>>44726206
There is exactly one case in which the DM should tell players not to read the rules, and that's if they're playing Paranoia.
Of course, the players are then required to read the rules anyway, and not let on.
>>44726305
Not really though?
If something is easy, the dice will matter less. If it's harder, they will matter more.
When stat bloat occurs, either after a certain point nothing is hard anymore, or you have to keep changing the TNs for what is and isn't hard for the party, which honestely is pretty shitty for a tabletop game that relies in internal consistency.
>>44726245
>>44726206
To me the intention sounded more like 'don't worry too much about learning all the rules ahead of time, we'll teach you as we go'. Could just be how the OP phrased it though.
