One week toliterally nothing changesedition
Old thread: >>44703418
>>44711474
This is the only correct answer. Although I would like to seesecond sunrise unbanned.
Ban summer's bloom and that's it, no other bans or unbans
>>44711560
Honestly I would prefer an SFM unban as the only change.
If I have to be realistic though I expect either nothing to happen or something from Amulet Bloom gets banned.
Sword of the Meek unban
Guys I need some help. I need cards to use as tokens.
Should I use old 90's ridiculous baseball/football cards, anime girls, or little plastic goblin figures
>>44711614
>anime girls
Literally anything else than this and you should do just fine.
>>44711614
I like the baseball/football cards cause the other two seem too common. Also who wouldn't want those dude staring at your opponent.
>>44711614
Anime girls make people mad but you might seem creepy
>>44711582
Just ban Amulet of Vigor and kill the deck. The less comboshit in Modern the better.
>>44711614white boarderedanime girls
>>44711560
Agreed, not sure what deck abused it anyway. Eggs? If it was eggs then hell no
Also thinking of Glimpse of Nature, that would create a combo deck at least more interesting than Amulet bloomI'd personally like to see a restricted list in Legacy so you can bring back some of the cards that are only vintage playable, not Moxes/Lotus/Recall though
>>44711779
>White bordered
>eldrazi costs 400 to build
AAAAHHHHH
>>44711922
Shit time to cash in before this deck shits the bed.
>>44711614
ridiculous 90's anime goblin girls
>>44711922
>Affinity costs twice as much
>>44711874
threadly reminder that eggs did LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG
unskilled pilots saw that it was cheap and capable of winning so they ruined tournaments with wasted time because they couldn't figure out how and when to combo
#omeletlivesmatter
#freesecondsunrise
>>44712127
Even good players took forever if they couldn't piece it together. I say keep that shit banned.
also
>implying most people at modern weekly's at LGS's aren't unskilled
>implying that low level tournament grinders aren't unskilled and just have a lot of free time and expendable money.
>>44712127
Go play solitary elsewhere, Anon.
>>44712245
i can execute in 7-10 minutes, it's really just a problem with people thinking they know how to play the deck and not knowing when they've died
>>44712283
i like making people watch me play solitaire
>>44711590
>>44711604
>>44711582
>>44711560
>>44711474
>>44711746
>>44711874
>>44712127
Public notice: wizards is more okay with banning a card than unbinding a card as they
>have an idea for what the format should be like and the banned list is cards that don't fit their ideals
>don't test for modern
Ban all not basic lands for the trolololol's
>>44712624
>trolololol's
>Life begins after school
That's when we bend all the rules
Time to hang with all my friends
We like to be together
In a place where we belong!
I'm sixteen! Starting to find my way
Got a new job, gonna start at the mall today
Thank God I'm on my own for the first time
I'm sixteen! Life is sweet
When you're growing up so fast
You gotta make the good times last!
I'm sixteen, sixteen
Gotta make the good times last!
>>44711614
Nigga, use Ray Lewis.
No faggot ass nerd is gonna attack into a line of Ray Lewis.
can someone give me the ins and outs of Instant Reanimator?
>>44712828
loot
reanimate jizzlebrand
draw 7
cast nourishing shoal, exiling worldspine wurm
draw 7more again
draw 7 more again if you need to
you probably drew another worldspine wurm and nourishing shoal, so cast it
draw 7 more
draw 7 more again if you need to
you probably have boborygmos, ENRAGED and some simian spirit guides by now. exile a simian spirit guide and cast a faithless looting or whatever discard spell is available, and discard boborygmos, ENRAGED.
now cast goryo's vengeance to bring back boborygmos, ENRAGED and discard your lands to kill your opponent. you only need 7 lands at most, you probably drew that many.
congratulations, you win.
>>44712828
Plan a: You put griselbrand in your graveyard, activate him a bunch of times, chain nourishing shoal to activate him more, then use simian spirit guide/desperate ritual/splicing to through the breach or reanimate bobo and throw lands at your opponent.
Plan b: Breach worldspine
Plan c: random borborygmos and griselbrand shenanigans.
>>44712828
I can give you the ol' in out in out
>>44712899
goryo's for bobo is the back up plan, usually you use rituals to through the breach him out.
>>44712946
>>44712899
>>44712919
i can't seem to find a good primer does any one have a list and the normal cost of the deck?
>>44713028
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=97564
That was bob's deck. He added blue recently, used to be just RB. I like the change, you get rid of some worse cantrips but loose the blood moon in the sideboard.
>>44711874
What would a restricted list bring to legacy? What would you have restricted in legacy?
>>44713246
Restricted lists are a trap. They work in Vintage because some cards are so rawly powerful that having more than one warps the game, and Vintage is the format that lets you play one of them. In Legacy, it would just get confusing, and also open up avenues for cheating.
Who death and taxes here? Summer Bloom match up feels so good.
>>44711896
>thw I run white boarders whenever I can because of nostalgia
>tfw it literally triggers some people
>>44713779
I was thinking about building it as my first constructed deck on MTGO. did a few drafts then dropped it for a few weeks, sign in today and i suddenly have 2 thalias i don't remember having before.
>>44713795
>slam down my white boardered blood moon against my Jund playing opponent
>he visibly twitches
gg
Is Izzet Charm good in Grixis? It counters lots of annoying things, kills weenies, and can cycle through your deck in a pinch(draw two cards then pitch two Think Twice to your yard for maximum VALUE).
At two mana it is right on time to stop bad things like Blood Moon, Choke, andKarn.
>>44712319
>i can execute in 7-10 minutes
>doesnt see this as a problem
>tfw no black PW oath
Couldn't we get ob making his own oath against the Mary sues?
>>44714036
It's alright. Izzet great? Not really. Probably your best charm for a control shell though.
Alternatively use mana leak and still answer each of those things just as easily. Your other modes are overcosted shock and overcosted looting.
>>44714215
Yeah, I figure as much. I'll give it a try though.
Kolaghan's Command and Cryptic Command are undoubtedly the best toolbox spells in UBR, but Izzet Charm doesn't seem terrible.
>>44713878
I'd like to do GW, but I lack Nobles. So I've stuck with mono white.
>>44714427
To clarify: I'm thinking about trying all three, I'm not cutting the really good ones obviously.
Ban Bood Moon
>>44714169
Oath of Lilly in a future set, perhaps. Maro said there would be a black oath, just not in OGW.
Oath of Nixilis totally should have happened though.
>>44714080
when my non-combo turns consist of playing a spell and knowing what turn number it is, i'd say i'm just squeezing the entire game in that 7 minutes
>>44714460
Koly Kolyghan is all the modal shock you need.
I'd only consider charm if you aren't using semen visions.
>>44714566
Yea, I hate bood moon
>>44714619
Oath of Nixilis would be him swearing revenge on the Gatewatch rather than joining them, would be pretty cool.
>>44714823
>>44714619
Nah probably be oath of sorin.
>>44711614
Michael Jackson trading cards.
>>44714823
Pff gay.
>>44714899
Probably this. White ruined Sorin.
>>44714780
Boo hoo
>44712299
YGO has tokens?
>>44714169
Oath of nixilis being an anti planeswalker oath would have been cool.
Threadly reminder that they need to unban Dread Return and Hypergenesis
Make Modern great again!
>>44715530
Yes
>>44715691
Really, lets just revisit torment. Return to the cabal fucking when.
>>44715225
Up your reading skills you pleb
He was clearly mocking the incorrect spelling
>>44715687
BBB
Enchantment
When ~ enters the battlefield, destroy target planeswalker.
At the beginning of your upkeep, destroy target planeswalker.
>FUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOUUUUU
>>44715696
Just found out my LGS sells these, yikes.
Who buys these things
>>44715765
But anon that would make the person playing their ebin planeswalker superfriends deck sad that they can't use their awesome mythic cards that they bought with their moms credit card!! :(
If I wanted to get into reading about magic lore.. where would I start? What are some of the exicting novels or whatever?
Is it all about planeswalkers now? I think I would like to read about garruk and how he apparently got cursed?
>>44715863
Weatherlight Saga
>>44715765
Doesn't do shit vs Tron. Make it have Protection from Planeswalkers so it can at least survive Karn
>>44715765
What about BBB
Skip your draw phase. If you discard a card from your hand, remove that card from the game.
o: Pay 1 life to set aside the top card of your library. At the beginning of your next discard phase, put that card into your hand. Effects that prevent or redirect damage cannot be used to counter this loss of life.
>>44715791
wow that looks awful
like even art wise
>>44715765
When ~ enters the battlefield, destroy target planeswalker.
At the beginning of your upkeep/end step remove 1 loyalty counter from each planeswalker on the battlefield.
>>44715765
>artwork of Ob drowning Gideon in three inches of dirty water
>illustrated by Terese Nielson
>>44715906
Wow, skipping your draw step AND having to pay life to draw a card AT THE END OF YOUR TURN? Get the fuck outta here with your low power shit, is this fucking Ice Age block?
>>44715909
It's like they scavenged some twelve-year old's deviant art profile for the art on these things.
>>44715791
I'd use that
>>44715991
thats awful
like
i didnt think it would get worse but it did
>>44715906
Sounds like a shitty bulk rare.
>>44715999
I even like anime, but those tokens look like shit.
I just don't understand some people.
So are the prices fucked forever even if nothing is banned because "muh price memory"
>>44715974
I didn't know I needed that in my life
>>44716163
it might take a while for them to go down, maybe by april they'll go down. we need to see how the meta shifts to make any claims but odds are it'll be fucked for a good while
>>44716075
I'd use them BECAUSE they look like shit
they could technically print something like this, while still not breaking the reserved list right?
3UUU
Force of Memes
Instant
You may pay 1 life and remove a blue card from your hand rather than pay Force of Meme's cost.
Counter target spell.
or would this add too much counterspell to the fodder? i.e. decks will run 4x force of will and 4x force of memes
>>44716205
I never really understood the psyche-your-opponent strategy. Does it even work?
>>44716250
FoW is not even on the reserved list.
>>44716250
FoW isn't on the reserved list senpai
>>44716350Best engine
>>44716284
>does it work?
Only if your opponent is an autistic manchild. So most of the time I imagine.
>>44716350
That's cool but you should put a random 8th edition in there just to fuck with people.
>>44716250
8 FOW's would be interesting, i don't think all that many decks want 8 forces main. Even post board against combo I don't think you want more than 6. A hand of 2 land 4 forces doesn't actually sound good.
Expedition map or Ancient Stirrings for an aggro Eldrazi deck?
>>44716730
>Ancient Stirrings
Unless you're not going Green
>>44716762
I really want to run GB, I think it would fix most of the deck's problems. But people seem stuck on mono B.
I'm starting to think maybe I'm wrong
>>44716827
What do you get from Green that White doesn't give you? White gives you Lingering Souls and Path.
>>44717003
Well, keep in mind I'm not talking about the standard Eldrazi list with Stranglers and Blight Herders.
I'm talking about Mimic, Knot Seer and Reality Smasher. So it's not really a list concerned with exiling and processing, just abusing Eye and Temple to rush out big stuff.
So Ancient Stirrings would provide some vital fixing for when you don't draw parts of the engine in time, and that's the main reason why I want green.
>>44712319
7-10 minutes is a long time to watch you jerk off across the table.
What are t hose eldrazi list? are they meme? link plz?
>>44711922
>tfw got all the parts I needed for $50 just when the hype was starting up
>those same cards are now $200 and I have a full meme deck to play with
Hopping on the bandwagon pays off.
>>44711614
When one of the options is anime girls, never pick it.
>>44717236
For now, pure meme.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/deck-creation-modern/651723-bw-eldrazi-processor
What are good sleeves? Is Hareruya good?
>>44717371
I love the idea of flickering the Eldrazi with Restoration Angels. Good idea? Bad idea?
>>44717451
That's reserved for another type of deck, not really the kind of deck you want a usual Eldrazi midrange/ramp to run
>>44717410
I haven't ever seen those in person but I hear they're fine. KMC Hyper Mattes and Dragon Shield Mattes are probably the best two sleeves available though.
>>44717451
Bad idea. Most are cast triggers so at most flickering just in taps them
>>44717337
>that one guy that uses tokens with ahegao images
>>44717496
Good point. I've tried very hard to repress my disappointment with BfZ, and all of the cast triggers were the first memories to go. What garbage.
>>44717646
>put etb abilities on creatures
>creature gets countered
>complain
>wizards puts cast triggers instead
>can't flicker
>complain
>>44717451
Those are better as one-ofs in Emeria Control
>>44717764
Who complained about etb abilities here? Either you can't read or you're being a presumptuous little cunt.
>>44717794
Isn't Emeria Control every bit as meme as Eldrazi?
>>44717593
>FNM Modern
>Somehow you made it to the top8 and head to the final round.
>Your opponent shuffles his deck and presents it to you to cut it.
>You see pic related as his sleeves.
What do?
>>44717371
Tidehollow Sculler is easily the best card in that deck. You see their hand, get rid of a card permanently because you can just process it which means your other guys are online, and get a 2/2 body. That's actually fucking INSANE value.
I'm still waiting for someone to realise that a repeatable source of processing + Scavenging Ooze is fucking hilarious.
>>44718073
Not really, if it was then the components would've spiked. It's tier 3 though but does well in FNM level.
Plus its actually fun
>>44718137
win
>>44718137
Since I'm a grill, I'd probably laugh to myself, and it would probably just end up making him uncomfortable.
>>44718137
Really it changes depending on who's playing them, whether or not I'm judging, and whether or not the store sells these sleeves or similar products. I'd be inclined to point it out if I was the judge since it might make other players uncomfortable.
>>44718137Cum on it, then call him out for marked cards
>>44718137
Why should I give a shit? First off that's not even a picture of a real woman, and second I've played people in Japan who were using those cast-off double sleeve sets.
Step your game up, anon.
>>44718276
>I'd be inclined to point it out if I was the judge since it might make other players uncomfortable.
Interestingly enough, I DID asked my FLGS owner about this very issue and he said that as long ass the sleeves don't show anything explicit (nipples or penises), it ok.
I shoul also add that his actual gaming space (which is located away from the store part) is members (read: THOSE GUYS)-only.
Nicest store I have ever been.
Also,I am that guy.
4 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Brain Maggot
4 Wasteland Strangler
4 Mind Raker
4 Restoration Angel
4 Path to Exile
4 Cloudshift
4 Castigate
A list for fucking around. What's it missing aside from intelligence, a manabase, and good cards?
I think modern should have some more bans, summer bloom, blood moon, tron lands, splinter twin
And then simultaneously we should make modern no banlist a thing, it's really fun guys I swear
Buying playsets of all the original ravnica shocks have about half of them now. Gosh the foils are so expensive but I'm considering getting a few.
>>44718439
Come on nigger you should know by now that Thoughtseize/Inquisition go in all black decks. Also fuck off with Cloudshift as a 4 of and Castigate at all. Brain Maggot is possibly a bit weak just because the small body means a much slower clock than what Sculler gives you.
>>44718467
Infect: the format.
>>44718439
Seems weak to burn, figure out some plan against that
Does anyone else think the format is fine and doesn't need any bans? I'd be fine with some safe unbans like Sword of the Meek andSeething Song
>>44718467
>modern no banlist
Jace would become a $200 card
>>44715906
so necropotence?
>>44718536
Which one?
>>44718137
Pff. Those sleeves don't even effect the board.
>>44718577
It's super effective !! agaisnt horny teenagers.
>>44718536
More likeRAVAGER AFFINITY 2: CLAMP HARDERTHEY THOUGHT IT WAS BANNEDTHEY WERE WRONG
>>44718511
TS/IoK don't exile, so it misses the point entirely. In BW Cloudshift dodges spot removal and re-uses ETB effects.
>>44718541
Blinking and repeatedly nabbing burn spells probably isn't good enough against Burn, that's true.
>>44718617
>can I read that?
>sure
>...
>cards on the other side man
Unban everything in Modern.Reprint Force of Will
>>44718682
Sure they don't exile. THEY'RE STILL FUCKING INSANE ANYWAY YOU DUMB SHIT. Just because they don't fit the cute little theme doesn't mean they're not still some of the best black spells printed, period.
Also, Flickerwisp.
>>44718677
I read that in that movie presenter's raspy voice.
What was his name?
>>44718763
George Lowe
>>44718467
Ban 1 card from every top tier deck so that the Tier 2+ decks become better.
>>44718710
Flickerwisp is half a card without flash. Running it without Vial should be a crime.
And if you reduce the amount of exile effects below a certain point it no longer makes sense to have processors be in the deck. The thought experiment has failed, BW D&T would just be better.
>>44718980
>Tier 2+ decks become better.
Which unbans would make T2 decks better?
>>44718980
Comments like this make me incredibly sad.
>>44718980
That isn't how tiers work though. If we ban everything in tier one then their just becomes a new tier one.
Give me one good reason why Abrupt Decay shouldn't be banned.
>>44719060
No you ban 1 card not every card in Tier 1.
Something like:
>Banned
Lightning Bolt
Karn
Cranial Plating
Summer Bloom
Become Immense
>>44719100
Because it's a fair card
>>44719100
Because it doesn't hit Land Creatures ;^)
>>44719100
BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE THE DCI LIVE.
>>44719113
I wish they banned ravager insted of platingbecause my casual-finity list only lacks ravagers to turn into a normal affinity, and I don't want to shell out 50 bucks a pop
>>44719113
Even then, either these make the decks worse and pushes them under tier 2 decks or does nothing. What do you do with the new tier one decks? Ban 1 card from any deck that becomes tier 1?
>>44719174
Do it faggot. You'll thank me later.
>>44714460
So I experimented with izzet charms in my Jeskai control. They can be good and come out of nowhere and blindside people. I would run 1-2. It is powerful enough to do something and is versatile enough to matter but not strong enough to run more then 2. But those other guys are right, those commands are your bread and butter. Run like 3-4 of each.
>>44719122
>>44719265
On what plane is 1:1 removal not fair?
>>44719229
Arcbound Ravager is cute. CUTE.
It's obvious that Modern is a busted format and Wizards just keeps banning stuff.
If cards are gonna get banned from every single good deck, and if a deck does well at a tournament it will get banned, why not just unban everything except for Skullclamp tier stuff and reprint Force of Will to keep the combos in check?
Wizards' idea of an eternal format without hard counters for 2 or less mana is a disaster, because it breaks the fundamental mathematics of the game.
>>44719294
It's arguably 1 for 2 or more because it blanks counter spells in their hand
Uncounterable was a good mechanic but hard removal is not the place for it
I don't think it should be banned im just saying its clearly in a league of its own, on the same level of other banned cards
>>44719311
Explain further about "fundamental mathematics"
>>44719257
That's what I was thinking, focus on Commands but run a couple Izzet Charms because like Mana Leak they zap almost everything early game at instant speed, and cycle later on as they become less relevant.
Just make No Reserve List Legacy a thing
>>44711474
This is the most likely scenario. Though, if it was up to me we'd see something like:
>Ban
Summer Bloom
>Unban
Sword of the Meek
Stoneforge Mystic
>>44719409
Some cards are on a functionally equivalent list like force of will
>>44719370
>It's arguably 1 for 2 or more because it blanks counter spells in their hand
They don't lose the counterspell, they get to use it on something else.
>>44712127
KCI does essentially the same thing but in a simpler fashion. Even an unskilled pilot can combo off with that deck without going to time.
>>44719370
>It's arguably 1 for 2 or more because it blanks counter spells in their hand
>on the same level of other banned cards
This has to be the stupidest thing I have seen on /tg/ in quite some time.
>>44719409
I don't like this. The format looks way less interesting without led, tabernacle and good duals
>>44719392
Modern is supposed to be a turn 4 format for "fair" decks, but combo, blitz aggro and tron dominate it, all of which can win or virtually win by turn 3. It's clear that Wizards will have to completely 100% ban decks that people have spent upwards of a grand on, in order to make this format actually Turn 4.
So why not just admit that it's a turn 3 format, and print the cards actually used by "fair" decks to beat the faster strategies instead?
>>44719294
I didn't post laughing superheros because Decay isn't a "fair" card. Nor do I think it should be banned because it's "unfair". I think it should be banned because it warps the format. Anything less than 3cmc had better either have hexproof/protection or replace itself, because otherwise Jund will fuck you in the ass.
>>44719518
>for "fair" decks
I don't remember them ever saying this.
>>44719617
Not that guy. I don't think they ever did, but it's not like I ever expected consistency anyway.
>>44719484
Whatever man
I exaggerated the 2 for 1 thing but I stand by my point that it's as centralizing as other banned cards
>>44719518
Gotcha
>>44719610
When using terms of art, use them correctly. Decay is a fair card. You pay 2 mana to kill something. Tendrils of Agony is an unfair card. You pay 4 mana to kill someone. Look at those cards side By side and tell me which one is doing something fair
>>44719649
>I stand by my point that it's as centralizing as other banned cards
I agree my man. I mean when someone Decays my Viscera Seer I know I am thinking to myself "God damn I wish he dropped a turn 3 Emrakul instead" since, clearly, a 2 mana and 2 color conditional removal spell is as good as every other cards on the banlist.
>>44719678
2 mana to kill anything is fine. It being uncounterable was completely unnecessary. It'd see heavy play without it.
>>44718682
Clouds shift is cool vs lightning bolt, I'm just worried about too many of your scullers and maggots dying and ruining your strategy of hand invasion
>>44719734
You're so funny dude, great job :^)
>>44719678
I told you already, I'm not discussing this in terms of "fairness". A card can be "fair" and still be a format-warping piece of bullshittery.
>>44719765
A lot of the time, decks that run Lightning Bolt play it because it gives them the reach they need to finish players off. If your opponent has to spend his Bolts dealing with Sculler, that's still a win for you. You basically paid 2 mana to counter his Bolt. And if he doesn't have removal for the Sculler or you process the card before he can remove it? Then the value is insane.
![Blood+Moon+%255BMMA%255D[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BJ7qMUA.jpg "Blood+Moon+%255BMMA%255D[1].jpg")
>>44719805
>A card can be "fair" and still be a format-warping piece of bullshittery
You rang?
>"All you need to do is not build a greedy mana base!"
Yup, all every deck needs to do is accommodate the existence of this card. That's not the textbook definition of format warping in the least.
>>44719678
Tendrils of agony does nothing without an entire gameplay around it, that's fair in my opinion
I'm not saying I want decay banned but I always thought it was a bit of a slap in the face to give it uncounterable. I mean, a smother for nonland permanents is already damn good.
>>44719888
Tendrils is made fair by the existence of shit like Force of Will to disrupt the combo and Stifle to hit the storm trigger.
>>44718137
Fap vigorously.
>>44719888
Skullclamp wont do shit in a deck without 1/1s. That doesn't make it less broken.
>>44719849
Now that I think about it, if your sculler trigger is on the stack and they bolt it to save bolt from being exiled, then you get to exile something different and they don't get it back ever, so actually it's pretty good vs creature removal
>>44719908
That's not how it works.
The existence of Flusterstorm does not make Storm a fair deck. Flusterstorm is simply a card that preys on unfair decks and is mediocre against the fair ones.
>>44719760
It's fine without it, but becomes amazing with it. Magic is about playing powerful cards.
>>44719888
Actually that's the definition of unfair Magic, you have a combination of cards that are bad else where but win the game on the spot when put together.
>>44719882
That's one way of looking at it, another would be to say that other options should exist to punish greedy mana bases, keeping them in balance, but this is all we have to work with
>>44719958
I'm making fun of your magic jargon
>>44719908
I found the guy who doesn't play legacy. If you keep a hand full of 1 for 1 counters, you're probably losing.
Storm is an unfair deck. It's not overpowered. These terms mean different things
>>44719906
Decay sees so much play because the answers in Modern are a lot worse than the threats and Decay is one of the best ways to deal with a threat.
>>44719882
Boo hoo
>rock needs a buff, paper needs a nerf. Scissors is fine.
>>44719993
I own an enjoy piloting Miracles. I brain farted and forgot fair/unfair have another meaning in Magic.
>>44718566
Modern without a banlist. Blazing Shoal Infect everywhere.
>>44719978
Not really, your using it incorrectly but outside of that I don't get it.
>>44720023
Hypergenesis is faster.
>>44720039
That's because you're a stupid elitist modern faggot who is close-minded and only understands your fagboy secret club meme language
>>44720023
I thought dredge would be most scary, but yeah blazing infect sounds scary
>>44720059
This. Chrome Mox makes Hypergenesis the single best deck in the format.
Im not familiar with Modern's meta at all.
Is Extort a viable deck to play?
>>44720120
no lol
>>44720120
Extort is not a viable deck nor is it a deck at all. What formats do you play already?
>>44720078
No, I'm a Magic player who likes being able to have discussions about the game using terms and having other people know what the mean
>>44720120
extort's pretty awkward, I don't recall anything with it being played right now
These days, Orzhov is either spamming tokens, or is exiling cards with Tidehollow Sculler then eating them with Wasteland Strangler(a new meme strategy).
>>44720152
Aka fagboy
>>44720199
Is it summer already?
>>44720215
It's summer all year round in the modern threads!
>>44720215
yes
you could say
summer's...in bloom
>>44720247
L.L. Coolkid
>>44720148
I used to play standard pretty regularly with mixed results. EDH is my bag now because i like tinkering with deckbuilds without much restriction.
Back in RtR/Theros standard i ran an Extort/Bestow deck, pretty nasty stuff.
>>44720023
>people actually think blazing shoal infect is better than twin.
>twin, 2 card combo, turn 4, immune to sorcery speed removal, deciever exarch is useful besides the combo, twin also has minor applications with snapcaster, exarch taps a land making less susceptible to blowouts, opponent doesn't know weather or not you have the combo so the threat effectively destroys 1/2 lands, doesn't die to bolt or gutshot, can't be blocked (inkmoth nexus) doesn't die to land or artifact destruction.
Compare to blazing shoal
>turn 3 (2 barely ever happens), can leave mana up during the combo turn, can search for a piece during combo turn, more combo peices.
People keep on trying blazing infect in modern no ban list, but I haven't seen it top-8 once.
>>44720318
Yeah, Modern is a lot more cutthroat and competitive.
>>44720365
Cause hypergenesis is just better
>>44720415
I don't think I've seen hypergenisis top 8 either (although I do think it's good), the only combo decks I've seen do well are storm and elves.
Hypergenesis isn't very comparable to blazing shoal, storm is though, and storm is definitely just better than shoal.
>>44720391
I was always an aggressive player anyway.
>>44720448
>>44720415
>>44720365
>>44720059
>>44720023
See guys?
Modern no ban list is a cool and balanced format with lots of viable and fun strategies!!!
>>44720365
>People keep on trying blazing infect in modern no ban list, but I haven't seen it top-8 once.
Look at mtgtop8 in the infect category for decks in 2012, it was rampant
>>44719882
Only problem with Blood Moon is that there is just that and Magus of the Moon, when there should be like 20 different cards that brick all nonbasic lands in various ways. Playing more than a couple nonbasics should be incredibly risky.
The least they could do is reprint Wasteland as a common in a Modern-legal set.
>>44720624
Because Wizards had forgotten when they wrote their preliminary banlist. It was rampant because it was the most broken thing left unbanned at the time, not because it is the most broken card on the list.
>>44720624
I was talking about recent modern no ban tournies, I know it saw play before it was banned.
>Look at mtgtop8 in the infect category for decks in 2012
You mean 2011? It was banned in september 2011 and 'rampant' is not a grand total of 2 decks in all of mtg top 8. It might have been rampant, but that does not prove it.
>>44720264
>doesn't say may
So you lose if you can't play that many lands?
>>44721000
>up to
>>44721000
>oracle text
>>44721013
Even if it didn't, you can fail to find in unknown zones
>>44721050
How do you start xmage? I ran it with "java" (just java not javaw or javacpl or the dozens of others in the java folder) and a box comes up for a split second but otherwise nothing happens.
>>44721108
He is right, you know. This why Gists Ungiven can go and find only Unburial Rights and Griselbrand.
>>44719961
what's the worst can happen? 5c goodstuff? impliying that would be tier 1
it is only good to stop tron and amulet, and tron have enchantment hate on the sideboard
>>44711614
Weiss Schwarz cards
>gifts
I once played a 40 minute game (not match) against a gifts player with Restore Balance. Pretty great shit man
>>44721152
Its a powerful card against the right deck
>>44721148
>Gists Ungiven
What does this card do? Like give me the gist of it.
>>44721297
You got the gist. I can't give it to you though
>>44721134
help
>>44721297
he meant gifts ungiven. search your library for 4 cards with different names, opponent picks 2 to go to graveyard, other 2 go to hand. it was errata'd to say UP TO 4 cards because you can fail to find things in hidden zones. your opponent doesn't actually know that you've got more than 4 cards with different names in your deck
>>44721297
Tutors 4 cards at instant speed for 4 mana
>>44721332
YOU MIGHT NOT WHEN YOURE PLAYING EGGS
>>44721297
>give me the gist of it
Impossible.
>>44721286
Imagine the oponnent don't know you have it
you drop it on g2, he scoops, then he will be fetching for basics on g3, making it not as bad as it should be, you loss anyway
>>44721411
What? They fetch basics so I lose?
>>44721447
If you need to get them off mana with moon and they arent, yes. if not, why are you playing moon?
>>44721297
tutors any creature in your deck or autosummons any creature in your deck for an additional 3W
>>44721297
Costs 3U, instant speed. Search your deck for up to four cards. Your opponent must choose two to go into your graveyard, the rest go into your hand.
[graveyard shenanigans intensifies]
>>44721731
Oh wait, to clarify:
the cards all have to have different names
>>44721530
You aren't boarding out all of your answers for 2-3 blood moons. You don't take in blood moon against decks that can run off basics, you bring it in if they can't effectively cast there spells on 2 basics
>all these idiots explaining what gifts ungiven does
I didn't think this place was literally full of autists
>>44721935
A couple people got my awful pun, but...
>>44712899
haha carpenter you so silly
>>44718558
You're stupid.
Hypergenesis is easily the most busted shit on the ban list. Skullclamp is probably second.
Blazing Shoal would push infect over the top. Artifact lands and Skullclamp would be nuts in affinity. 12 Post might replace tron as it seems more consistent. Ponder and Preordain (along with Rite of Flame) would make combo a lot stronger too. Storm would finally come back.
Jace isn't even close to being good enough in a theoretical 'no banlist' Modern format to warrant an increase in price.
>>44722247
>talking about modern no ban list without acknowledging no ban list tournies.
Your guesses were pretty good though.
>>44722370
I did a lot of theorycrafting about the banlist with some friends. I wasn't aware that there were tournaments for it though. I assume those are all unsanctioned right? I think it would require Wizards legitimizing the format before you would begin to see the prices of banlist cards effected.
>watch stream of no-ban-list modern
Oh wow it's even-shittier legacy because everyone plays 4 mental misstep
>>44722512
It's really weird how mental misstep ruins every format. Except vintage, which it makes way more interesting
>>44722473
>I assume those are all unsanctioned right?
Yeah.
>I did a lot of theorycrafting about the banlist with some friends.
Yeah, basically UR delver is probably the best deck (what everyone's forgetting about), miracles is surprisingly good, stoneblade is good, affinity is very good but gets hated on, blazing shoal and hypergenesis are overrated (though I still like hypergenesis), affinity is great but has hate and there are few hatebear decks and chalice decks, elves and storm are the good combo decks, dredge... is not very good, but exists.
>>44722247
I have a buddy who plays Legacy 12 post. It is way, way stronger than Tron. It powers out Eldrazi faster and the lifegain from Glimmerpost is backbreaking for Aggro and Midrange.
>>44721134
I just use the launcher, so not sure. Sorry man.
