Can anyone honestly say gw's are twice as good.
I'd argue the reverse.
>tfw you lived to see the company you grew up loving die
>>44698069
It's like GW really doesn't want people to play Slayers.
>>44698069
the greek-ish helmets are pretty sweet
I don't like either very much, though. Slayers ain't my thing.
why did they even bother to reboot fantasy
just kill it if you don't want it any more
Why has GW's design process gotten so fucking horrific even as their technical abilities have improved so much? Cramming more detail onto a badly thought out model does not make it better. Or phrased another way: a 1080p video of two ugly people fucking may actually turn me off even more than a 320p video of the same thing, because it is easier to notice how ugly they are.
>>44698069
expensiv not good
good for laughs maybe!
>>44698584
That company died a long time ago. You just never noticed.
>>44698069
The new slayers are horrible.
And I say that as someone who wanted to get a bunch when they were initially announced.
They look absolutely fucking terrible.
I didn't notice before how stiff and unatural the GW poses where, also what happened to their pants?
>>44698584
Now consider the fact you're likely to live to see your parents die.
>>44698069
The perfect symmetry of faces and beards.
Or of the entire model.
>>44700571
Who needs pants when they actively seek to be killed in battle?
>>44700653
Lol I just noticed that. The guy with two axes literally looks like they used some design that was accidentally mirrored.
>>44700611
Screw that. God has already died in the last two weeks, family means nothing compared to that.
>>44698069
Why does every single AoS new model looks like shit? Do they get interns to do this shit? Like holy fuck they look retarded.
>>44700654
they changed their lore now they're mercenaries looking for ur-gold as their only goal :)
>>44701013
then they need their pants, where are they gonna stuff the stuff, huh?
>>44701065
>then they need their pants
But they need the gold to buy pants! THESE ARE HOBO DWARVES!.
>>44701013
...so how the fuck do they explain Gotrek? I mean, what, 9ish books of this fucker looking for his death?
I thought the Fyreslayers looked good in the promo art but not so much as minis it turns out
>>44698069
Price is not always indicator of quality. Look at apple.
>>44700571
>also what happened to their pants?
too similar to warhammer, they had to go
>>44698069
Lets erase GW from your cool story.
Who will buy 20 random dwarfs berserkers (with instrument and totem totally not GWs Berzerkers copypaste) ?
Good/poor money blah bla. Are you 12 y.o. ?
>>44698069
>Can anyone honestly say gw's are twice as good
No way.
However, I built AoW berserker(gunner and pathfinder), I would say their quality is slightly better than GW zombie, full of moldline, out of scale, hard to rank up...etc, but they are cheap and look great in rank and file.
GW berzekers? Expensive always, the problem is they don't look good in loose formation.
>>44698069
God, all those GW poses are boring as hell.
>>44701531
>Who will buy 20 random dwarfs berserkers (with instrument and totem totally not GWs Berzerkers copypaste) ?
Anyone who loves dwarfsn berserkers.
>>44701097
>Need gold to buy pants
>Need pants to hold gold
THE CYCLE NEVER ENDS.
>>44701182
True. But for the AoW stuff to not be worth the money compared to the new AoS shit, the models would need to actually crumble in my hand.
>>44701531
>Who will buy 20 random dwarfs berserkers
Me, for one. Looking to up the number of Slayers in my army.
>>44700248
they are not paid enough for what they do and they have literally no interaction with the different teams, so everyone do whatever they want
>>44701531
>Hey, I'm a fantasy wargamer because these things did exist even before GW got into the game.
>Dwarves are cool. Dwarf beserkers? Even cooler! I want some.
>Pantless ripped bear midgets.
Even OP is not fag enough to buy and field those
>>44700816
>God has already died in the last two weeks
Bowie?
>>44706191
So how did the admech come out so well?
>>44698069
look out everyone le sneaky dwarvish merchants want ur gold :^)
its a good thing the stormfront eternals are here
>>44698069
GW has a plastic sprue.
>>44700062
>I have no idea what greek helmets of any fucking period looked like
>>44701531
Please do not respond to this slavposter
>>44706296
sometimes it just works.
but still, skitarii weren't like what we could have gotten 10 years ago on a design perspective (they are cleaner than the original artworks).
what I really hate about gw now is that they make some great models and then fuck it all up with small details that I personally hate. for example, the new slayer hero is grate except for the fact that he looks like dwarf lincoln thanks to no mustaches. other example is the new big lizard kit: why does the dwarf have such a shitty pose? manfred, archaon etc, were beautiful sculpts instead and they came out in the recent years
I'm totally for other companies stepping up and giving GW some good competition
They need to stop acting and pricing like they exist in a vacuum
>>44698069
That Draft at the front looks like someone mirrors one half of his body.
Those Avatars of War guys look awesome.
>>44706259
Trick question, Lemmy IS God.
>>44701114
Those were warhammer slayers.this is Age of Sigmar.
>>44706376
But other companies are. They also price accordingly because GW muppets proven they will pay extortionist prices.
>>44706366
To be honest, GW was always hit and miss.
>>44701114
Gotrek was a Trollslayer, not a Fyreslayer.
Incidentally, Gotrek is a God now. Guy just can't catch a break.
>>44706436
yes but it has become more like this in the past years
I started in 2005 and didn't initially find any """bad""" models except for those fucking possessed
>>44706455
What about at retarded stat they made for the Wood Elves?
>>44706474
>retarded stag*
>>44706481
b-but I like the seer on stag
>>44706524
Sure, but the mount looks more like a bull.
>>44706550
the seer deserves the alpha stag I guess
>>44706550
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A STAG?!
>>44706596
Yeah, that's what I thought back in the day when it was released.
>>44698069
The front dwarf is almost symmetrical wtf. CAD is hell of a drug.
>>44706407
nah mate, Lemmy was awesome but he was no David Bowie
>>44706640
Who by the way died like 3 hours ago.
>>44706550
>>44706571
>>44706596
Looks like a moose of some sort.
A tiny moose.
>>44706695
It's the tail of a dog, the body of a horse and the head of a pissed of Minotaur.
>>44701065
>then they need their pants, where are they gonna stuff the stuff, huh?
You don't wanna know
>>44706828
> every girl has a few secret compartments
>>44706640
just a heads up that all musicians you like will die sooner or later and you will be left with upstarts like Bieber to replace them
>>44698069
the poses with the double axes on the left dwarves look retarded
>>44706445
>Wants to die
>Achieves apotheosis aka lives forever
Fate is a dirty bitch
>>44700760
they probably did just that. no kidding
>>44700653
that happens with soulless CAD sculpts
>>44701202
now that's a good model. why didn't they just keep this style? I'd love a squad of guys like him
>>44706682
i know
>>44698069
good argument brah!
>>44707013
Could be a perfect representation of Gotrek's own guilt. Ultimately for a Slayer to allow himself to dye means they accept forgiveness. They've achieved a worthy death. They can relax.
Gotrek just never forgave himself. No death would ever be worthy of forgiving his crime. So he walked a path that lead to immortality.
>>44706930
>Le wrong generation
Anon, every single fucking generation has shit pop artists. We just don't give a shit about them by the time they die.
>>44706930
iggie pop is still alive and well
>>44698069
I find Avatars of War slayers a gigantic pain in the ass to assemble and clean, especially their mohawks.
The new slayers look fucking retarded though
>>44700653
>Hurf durf, my models have to be lumpy pieces of shit, otherwise they don't have any "soul"
I think these dwarves are lame by nature, but I hope you anti-CAD fags kill yourselves.
>>44698069
Fucking hell that musician- no effort whatsoever, just chuck a horn in his hand.
>>44707280
I honestly can't tell if you're describing the left one or the right one
>>44707331
>>44707260
There is no excuse for literally copy pasting when designing a model.
So gw has always had 3 things going for it
Prices that while high, didn't make you feel bad when you bought the thing.
Amazing models
Great IP
so what do they do? Destroy the ip and sell this for 30 dollars.
>It's a "hate GW cuz dey joos lol" episode
Don't you guys think GW's models over the last few years have turned more and more static to the point that they have no fucking life in them?
Look at this shit, they're fucking dead. There is no soul in these little pieces of plastic, just the slave-work of a poorly paid worker who just had to feed his family.
With his hate for the company he fueled his mind to create these wretched abominations. The lost souls of all the miniatures out of productions are probably still wailing through the hallways of GW, screaming in agony as the company falls to a darker and twisted pit, full of static poses, stupid designs and disgustingly expensive prices.
Seriously, new minis are shit
>>44707624
>new minis are shit
Enjoy new shitty computer sculpting.
>>44707637
Computer sculpting can be done fine, it's just easier to do badly.
>>44707601
It's more the model quality tbchwyfofimhyfstposjcalmtat
>>44707624
Nah.
On the contrary. Sometimes there's just too much going on and you lose yourself in too many details.
Varanguard are the synthesis of what is wrong with GW's new models. Too much going on, too many details, no focus point for the eye, everything is confused.
Honestly, if the horses didn't have such retarded pose, I'd be able to pass the profusion of details. I like the models, but not enough to drop so much money, if I'm not 100% convinced.
On the other hands new sculpts can be great. Look at the new Tau, they're fairly good because they're simple. Orgyns/Bullgryns are fucking perfect. Why? Because they're simple yet precise.
>>44707587
this is far from the worst offender. Skarr is even okay.
>>44707624
no, staticness isn't a universal problem, it's just sometimes one. look at this shit: >>44707587
it's bad but dynamic as hell
>>44707624
are those the official GW photos off the website?
'Cos you can see the mould lines where they drybrushed over them. Fucking hell.
>>44707686
those horses look like they're tripping over.
I guess it's easy for designers to get carried away when you're meant to make shit over-the-top.
>>44706596
GW's animal sculpts, especially the metal ones, were done by people who had never actually seen the animals they were sculpting, and had to rely on third-hand accounts of their appearance, like medieval scribes being told about animals from africa or asia.
>>44707739
outside of certain models most of that range was about cashing in on a popular fad they happened to maintain the IP of. the game's actual rules were okay, except that it was fully about recreating scenarios from the books and therefor rather dull except as a mental exercise.
>>44706358
They're Phygian helms with a slot to fit the slayer's mohawk in
>>44707794
Exactly. The one on the right is okay I guess.
I'll go to my store to see if I can only make exactly those 3 horses or if it's several parts to get different poses but only enough to make 3.
Their tripping make me think of Dark Elves Wyches. Only pretty female faces in the whole GW range and they fuck up the pose.
>>44707587
still can't believe that models survived to printing. pretty much confirms that there are sane people left at GW, at some point someone should have taken a quick look at those weapons and said 'no, this is not going to happen'
>>44707686
My eyes cannot even focus on them, the abysmal paint scheme does not help.
>>44707857
I thought the LotR game was considered one of their best rules wise?
Speaking of, which Fellowship set do you guys prefer?
>>44707857
>the game's actual rules were okay, except that it was fully about recreating scenarios from the books
No it wasn't.
It was one of the more comprehensive skirmish games ever made, without being bloated. They went on to use it as inspiration for the Warhammer Historicals games.
>>44706924
> every dwarf has a few secret compartments
Ftfy
>>44698584
It looks like there's a chance they might be coming back
It will be a long dificuilit escape from hades though
>>44708019
Legends of the High Seas and Legends of the Old West were the games the LOTR style was used.
Most of the other were Warhammer 5th ed based.
>>44707686
I thought this was a battle, not a dressage competition.
>>44707686
I think what happened was someone in GW's management said to the development team "I want new chaos knights and I want to sell them for $170." So they had to keep on adding more and more detail until the models were a mess.
Doesn't help that their deamonic mounts look like oversized greyhounds with bad teeth.
But personally the reason for me these guys are so dull is that we've had a constant stream of chaos releases and there's only so many times you can see a new giant angry barbarian who wants to destroy the world, dressed in slabs of armour and wielding oversized weapons before they start to become mundane. I mean when was the last time the Empire or Bretonnia got new stuff?
Speaking of which, has there been of a picture yet of a normal human being who isn't part of Chaos?
>>44707040
Not grim and menacing enough. The AoS miniature line is pure joke.
>>44708293
No but in one of the novels a Sigmarine uses a mortal baby as a hand grenade.
>>44708293
In the "artworks"? No
As pics of the models? Only warrior priests and flagellants so far
There're token backwater cultures in the fluff though
>>44708389
Wait what?
>>44708417
He's being sarcastic you autistic fucktard.
>>44708434
I am fucking not, he picks up an infant survivor of a chaos raid that has been tainted, gives it a bottle of Explodium with a stupid GW trademark name and throws it at a bloodbeserker bloodblooder.
>>44701202
That dwarf looks like ducking Obelix
>>44708169
my bad, should have added "some of"
>>44708482
Deliberate, I imagine. Shame they didn't give him a green belt.
>>44707686
The Tau are less OTT because they've always been less OTT when compared to the other factions. The newer models still have an over abundances of details when compared to the old. Lots of wires and tubes and antennas.
Just look at the Stormsurge and tell me it isn't a horribly posed over designed mess of a model.
You can still read the original design notes for the Tau online somewhere and the whole point of the Tau was that they were high tech and minimalist which would set them apart from the Imperium where everything has external cables, cogs and dials and so forth. The newer models do show that GW are gradually forgetting this, given time the Tau will be just as much of a visual cluster fuck as everyone else.
>>44700653
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>>44707074
I'm lazy and don't care spoilers, what on earth did he even did??
Is anybody else getting fed up of AoS fans claiming their game is 'more narrative' because they removed everything BUT narrative? And left a shitty narrative at that.
They are acting like lacking fair and reasonably balanced rules makes the game somehow superior for fluffy gamers. When if anything its the opposite.
>>44706614
>The front dwarf is almost symmetrical wtf. CAD is hell of a drug.
Some people just love it mirrored pal. >>44707260
>>44708704
Yep, I never undestood it either, I didn't see anything about the rules than made it easier for engaging a narrative game
>>44708481
JUST
>>44707885
>Dark Elves Witches
Their poses are okaish, just a bit repetitive
>>44708481
>Gives it a bottle of Explodium
>That he just happens to have on him
>For the purpose of turning children in to living explosives
>>44707260
You are the cancer, Anon.
>>44708565
Yeah as I was typibg I remembered the Stormsurge, hence the "generally".
>>44708704
It amazes me that the AoS general has any form of discussion in it at all but the fact that they earnestly discuss "tactics" and the viability of certain units is incredible.
The level of self delusion involved to convince themselves that what they are playing involves any kind of strategy or tactics or that it's can even be called a competitive game at all is just incredible.
Werner Herzog should make a documentary about it.
>>44708704
I still have to grasp what's is this "narrative" they keep bragging about.
>>44708704
I've never met an AoS fan.
Buy then, my flgs was a big fantasy shop and the butthurt was very powerful.
>>44708819
Let thzm in peace I say.
I don't even play but pop up in the general once in a while to see if some models have leaked, and the amount of bitter fantasy players is terrible.
Peoplz go their to shitpost and then congratule themselves by saying "Look, they can't even have a proper discussion! Bring back fantasy!"
>>44707648
>Computer sculpting can be done fine
I knew, but GW doesn't want to spend money for that.
>>44708819
>competitive
Lots of AoS fans actually think the inability of it to be competitive is a GOOD thing. Because anybody who expects the game to have actual rules is a WAAC fag and AoS is great because these people do not want to play it.
Meanwhile they will argue its easier to run fluffy games despite most armies being now without any basis in the fluff and there being nothing to stop you making mixed armies with no fluff basis at all. They also bitch about having to take core units in WHFB even though that was fluffy and forced you to build an actual army instead of a collection of heroes, war machines and giant monsters.
Whereas anybody truing to run an actual fluffy WHFB army, especially a goblin or skaven one in AoS is completely fucked. Both because of the sudden death rule and from trying to move 200+ models in skirmish formation.
>>44708833
>I need to field 10 Nagash to forge my narrative you shitlord
>>44708704
>>44708762
I don't get how you can call AoS a narrative driven game. I mean I played Empire and their narrative in AoS is 2000 years ago, the Empire was drowned in a mix of demon pus and shit, then their planet blew up. The End.
It's not a great bit of fluff, I must admit.
>>44708897
>being so much butthurt
>>44708931
I miss this type of boxart.
>>44708931
This is the problem, even if there was anything to give a shit about in AoS they are not telling it to us.
These days its considered a good idea for a wargame with a new setting to tell you the outline of all the factions from the start. Not keep you in the dark completely and leave your existing army adrift without any place in the new game its supposedly valid for.
>>44708931
>this pic
Best box art ever for the best plastic sprues ever.
Except the hands, but I'm willing to let it slide for nostalgia.
>>44708958
post moar
>>44708951
Not that anon, but you're the one who started to be butthurt here>>44708704
Or at least took part of the discussion when absolutely nothing was about that.
>>44708984
Love the face of that guy in the back.
>>44708965
It's like you expect logic from GW.
>>44708931
>>44708958
Old WHFB art is great, I really like the mix of plausible armor and fantasy (all the scrolls and gritty weapons and armor) I'm glad there are other manufacturers than do it.
>>44708965
They gave you the rules for them. That's what's important right? you don't need all that fluff shiat, it's a game. what matters is the mechanics.
Good old Night Goblins.
>>44709009
Who does a good Empire State Troops equivalent?
>>44708984
Loved these gritty motherfuckers, had to buy them even if I was never interested in the empire.
>>44709043
Perry miniatures would be the first logical place to start. You might want to check pic related, whose names escapes me but could find something with a reverse search.
>>44708704
It's because in the mind of some people, balanced and interesting rules are only good for the worst WAAC faggot powergamer sperglord autists.
>Hard plastic
Oh shit, I always assumed that those were just crappy resin models
And they are cheaper than the GW models too, thanks OP
>>44709068
>Fantasy
>Balanced and Interesting rules
AoS is a mess but let's not kid ourselves there.
>>44708965
But you know all about sigmarines, khorne bloodbloods and space lizards. That's enough, right?
>>44709043
Momminiaturas did those >>44709063
, they will be an euro the piece, and then there is a lot of minor ones than do heroes and stuff like Gamezone and AoW, the later if they get they shit together could update they Cirleans than are Imperial Spain in fantasy.
>>44709063
Yeah the 'European Mercenaries' box lets you build 12 crossbowmen, 12 hand gunners and 12 halberdiers but sadly the style is not really German enough.
I will have a look for the other thing.
Couldn't find the art on the internet
>>44709043
Depending on what you want, Perry Brothers or Pro Gloria//Warlord.
>>44708894
>Meanwhile they will argue its easier to run fluffy games despite most armies being now without any basis in the fluff
This is what kills it for me. Even if you're playing one of the factions that haven't been wiped off the map in the end times unless you play chaos there is little to no fluff surrounding your army.
I play vampire counts and I want to know what place my generic vampire has in this world so I can write a backstory for him. What fluff do the undead have?
>NAGASH NAGASH NAGASH NAGASH NAGASH NAGASH
Yeah, ok, that's real nice GW but I'm not buying that giant model. What about just a lowish ranking vampire? What about the realm of dead where Nagash and all his moral followers live?
>dunno lol, wait until the next release maybe?
>>44709089
That is not at all what I said.
>>44709089
I thinks he was talking about how some AoS people shited on KoW for being too WaC friendly or something.
>>44709090
I am still pissed off at what they did to Lizardmen, they were one of my favourite factions in any Fantasy setting.
>>44709089
Nobody is really defending WHFB as it was, its just we did not realise how much worse things could be. If GW had gone back to 6th edition rules/prices and the way they used to act things could have been turned around.
>>44708996
I always liked the atmosphere in this. Zombie one was cool too.
>>44709123
Not only KoW. Any proper wargame really.
>>44709103
Recently I grew more and more disilluded with AoW.
I saw their quality spiraling down in my recent purchases.
>>44709127
Well, people had done another Alessio rulegame for fantasy, King of war. Isn't Wh but to me is the best mass battle game for fantasy around.
>>44709123
They just don't understand that tight, well balanced rules do not detract from the ability to play in a fluffy, narrative manner.
Or that people might want the game underlying their fluff to actually be finished when its released.
>>44708996
I've always loved how the skull on the standard looks like he's talking to the skellies below.
>>44709144
That's because Paniague had to outsource the mini doing to another artist, they chewed more than they could with plastic and had lots of logistic nightmares because this. They are cool people but not the more business savvie out there.
>>44709105
Look at Warlord Game's 30 Years War infantry. Closer to WHFB's "Era", and with some extra skulls should be perfect.
>>44698069
The ones on the right look about as good as the ones on the left to me, but I don't play dwarves.
>>44698069
Now I know what they remind me of. Landing signal officers!
>>44709148
>the best mass battle game for fantasy around.
Easily, but I really miss being able to design/kit out a hero to lead my army.
>>44709197
Italian wars you mean ?
>>44709224
Yes, that's a pity you can't kit out your heroes like you could in fantasy.
>>44709197
>>44709237
>Yes, that's a pity you can't kit out your heroes like you could in fantasy.
On the other hand, there were usually very few combinations in WHFB that were just fare superior to all others. So from a gameplay perspective, not much is lost.
>>44709159
Yeah I found that argument silly too, I get lots of fun making the fluff of my armies for KoW, than the game works like a charm is a huge boon.
>>44709224
I think the new book had some rules for extending the campaign and pimping a bit your units or something, pity than I discovered KoW only after AoS.
>>44709224
The new campaign rules let you use characters created with the Dungeon Saga rules in Kings of War. That said those rules aren't out yet, so whether they meet your qualifications is uncertain.
>>44709169
>They are cool people
Indeed they are, which it makes it even worse.
Honestly the sculpt are still good, but the hard plastic is shit and some of the recently casts are amateurs at best.
I'm really sad they didn't grow as much they deserved.
>>44709254
Sure (I play and love KoW), but still it's something I miss a bit.
On the other hand large battles are perfect in KoW.
>>44698069
Is that a dwarf flipping a finger?
>>44709280
>>44698069
Honestly I feel the GW dwarves would look so much better if they had better poses. I mean, half of them either have their axes flailing around like they don't know how to use them, or have that stupid "Come at me bro" look.
They could have looked good, the quality of the sculpts themselves are really good, its just wasted on really derpy poses. I mean most of the poses where the dwarf is swinging his weapon looks like either his weapon is way too heavy for him or he just doesn't know what he's doing.
>>44709394
yep, the fuck you dwarf
>>44709508
It's hard to make dual wielding giant axes not look retarded.
Because it is.
There's a reason no one ever did.
>beards don't even go down to the ground
where did it all go wrong
>gamezone
Just looked on their website and the standard bearer for the notDaemonettes is basically pole dancing with the flag pole.
That is hilarious.
>>44709831
Isn't that the first thing that comes to mind when you think "Daemonette standard bearer"? I'm fairly certain my conversion from ~8 years ago does that. Though theirs is probably better implemented.
>>44708146
Why exactly?
>I have come to the conclusion that AOS may be ahead of its time and that's why people are opposed to it.
You can find some wacky ideas on the internet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121860687617?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The guy cycles it every 3 days as "out of stock."
So now chinaman has Warlords at less than half price, would you grab one?
>>44708146
GW only has the IP about what it made them great, all imaginative guys, best modelers etc have left, heck I think GW imploding and selling they IP would be the best think for WH in general, the ones owning it are too incompetent.
>>44700017
Why?
>>44710216
shit wrong thread. disregard me, i suck cocks
>>44709164
>Walk faster! I want to bash them with my forehead!
>>44708293
>implying GW cares about non chaos humans
They want the bad guys to win, it's that simple
>>44708704
>giving a shit about the opinions of a fanbase for a dying game
>>44708481
>>44710221
Best artistic aspect of GW is really Forge World at this point.
>>44709111
GW wants hero hammer with everyone rolling up named characters in their fluff and no one elses they are trying to reduce your ability to run a "your dudes" style army
>>44710211
>ahead of its time
I'm deeply sorry for future generations if that is what they ll make of tabletop wargames then.
>>44709127
Honestly the lizards got off easy compared to others, they remain a relive army even if neglected in new fluff and while I dislike making them all angels the idea if being able to make daemons quake in fear is fun
>>44710264
top kek
>>44708965
But muh meta plot!
>>44700062
The horse hair being the same color as their beards is retarded. Or maybe they made their helmet crests from beardhair?
>>44710485
I just assumed they poke their mohawks through the helmets, since slayers have mohawks.
>>44706327
Underrated post
>>44710485
>>44710521
the fuck, in all that's wrong with them I didn't even notice that.
why are they wearing helmets? the fuck? since when was that a thing? they've taken the mohawks and replaced them with shit helmet fake mohawks and double-mohawks for the leader, who the fuck did this?
I bet they're not even real beards, they're just beard wigs attached to the helmet chinstrap. they're far too short to be slayer beard anyway.
gw have fucking shaved the slayers. they've bought them wigs and fucked up their most iconic feature.
>>44710521
AoS art design would be nonsensical enough for someone to have a coinslot of death for weapons on their heads.
>>44708481
Magnificent.
>>44707587
>Skarr Bloodwrath
It's like they name khorne characters/units by just putting synonyms for "blood", "bone", "anger", and "wound" into a random name generator
>>44708996
man this artwork makes me wanna make a full skeleton army. too bad aos gets boring after a while.
>>44708481
I really can't wait for the day when GW's execs are dragged into the street and lynched by an angry mob
>>44710841
don't play aos then
>>44710917
Nobody does.
>>44710932
gw store staff running demo games in a desperate attempt to move plastic and not get fired
>>44700816
>Lemmy
I suppose I ought to expect Warhammer fans to like Motörhead, given its metal-inspired aesthetics, but grieving over fucking Lemmy of all people is beyond my understanding.
>>44698584
Sad but true.
What were the glory days?
I'd argue 2000-2005
>>44708550
No, it's just retarded.
>>44710945
yeah, basically
I rarely see anyone playing aos anymore
I even got a dwarf army for cheap because I love dwarfs and aos made a lot of people sell their armies, it's fun for 10 matches but then it's always the same stuff.... I'd like to introduce my two friends I play aos with to warhammer 8th but I don't think they'd like it because they prefer simple games.
>>44710976
It's more shock that he could be killed than anything else.
For relatively recent rock/metal deaths, Dio was worse than Lemmy. I mean, fucking Holy Diver? Don't Talk to Strangers? Rainbow in the Dark?
Wait, fuck, that was 2010. Dio cast a long shadow.
>>44710983
Yeah, this is the sweetspot for artdesign and rules that are not all over the place. Then after the Storm of Chaos and Eye of Terror fiascos GW basically stops trying to do cool things to avoid losing face. After that it just kinda goes into a slow decline that leads up to today.
>>44711045
Kings of War, Dragon Rampant if you want a slightly more skirmishy game, plenty of others. HotT if you play with old grogs. Mighty Armies if you just want to push figures around for an hour and don't want to read HotT's rules.
>>44710786
khornegorewrath
>>44711078
>No one mentions Song of Blades and heroes.
I will never get why so few people there likes it.
>>44711080
and 4chan ate the other spoilers
anyway: this thing is called khorgorath, KHORne-GOre-wRATH
>>44711078
>Kings of War
But you can't customize your heroes.
>>44711109
I loved it for a few years but just... gradually fell out of love with it. Not sure why.
>>44711123
much like gw's game
play oldhammer then, idk
I know it's stupid but it really bothers me that they're now using round bases for fantasy
>>44711164
>much like gw's game
What? I assure you that you can customize heroes in WHFB.
>play oldhammer then, idk
Oh, talking about AoS, right.
>>44711184
You can give them magic objects and mages can choose different spells or update them. Tough more rules for customization would be pretty sweet for KoW, the problem would be balance but for friendly games I think choosing two or three magic objects for heroes could work.
>>44711078
Don't forget 9th Age if you want 8th edition but streamlined and with player feedback taken into account (hordes nerfed, big magic nerfed, spears getting bonuses against cavalry etc.)
>>44701531
People who play Fantasy games like Avatars of war or Kings of War you fucking autist
>>44709237
>Italian wars you mean ?
TYW is plastic doe and cheap af though it's a little later period. In plastic they have handgunners, pikemen and pistoliers. They sell customization packs with additional hat/helmet variations since the ECW/TYW kit has hat-placement built in. If you stuck feathers, skulls, scrolls, and a couple of hat-swaps they would start to look pretty empire-y.
The same could be said for perry's renaissance figures, though they are slightly too early for empire. Unfortunately I have seen several kickstarters for plastic empire - equivalents which failed, including one for a multipart plastic box of landsknechts which looked great and would have been perfect.
>>44700611
You'll live exactly long enough to see yourself die
>>44708958
The art is honestly what got me into the hobby in the first place. I got a catalogue and spent hours looking at all the box art. Now it's badly photoshopped photos. It's a shame.
>>44711293
Not if you're braindead.
>>44711329
Or blind, or just asleep.
>>44711336
Or blinking.
>>44711336
Can't forget about stuff hitting you from behind either.
>>44710211
>ahead of its time
Wargames are heading in a pretty good direction currently, so by that standard AoS is way behind the times.
>>44710386
>the lizards got off easy
They're now named after furry tickle porn. Collectively burning themselves would have been better.
>>44711329
>>44711336
>>44711349
>>44711359
>>44711329
You mean the very definition of dead?
For fucks sake, the AoS miniatures are so bad I'm puking
>>44711762
No, being braindead means that your body still functions on life support, but your mind is dead. You are still biologically alive even if your mind is beyond recovery.
>>44698069
GW makes the better Duardin.
They don't actually make Dwarves anymore, so there's no competition.
Harlequins and Ad Mech had my hopes up for a bit. GW is just shitting that good will away as fast as they can with every AoS release.
>>44711867
>your mind is dead
Which is you.
>>44707739
Eavy Metal has done really bad lately.
>>44712025
But the body is not in a state of decay. So you wont be able to observe the actual death. Theoretically you could replace the brain with a functional one to make use of the body again.
>>44698069
The Warthrones ones are barely posable, and the two handed poses are laughable because their hands extend out like Lanky Kong.
Also like many of the new kits, it's 90% the crippled paint job.
>>44711114
I like his dumb claw tentacles coming out of his shoulders
>>44712103
They're purposely held back to stop spergs from crying when their units looks like shit against 'eavy metal painters.
>>44698069
Dwarves suck
Christ, that's what they replaced the metal Slayers with?
>>44698069
Best thing about this is those dwarven berzerkers were modeled by Fenix Paniagua,the guys who modeled the dwarves from Warhammer 6th edition.
Funny how things are.
>>44712237
I'm convinced this is Minotaur syndrome.
Where the shitty skin paintjob and lazy posing makes them look bad.
>>44712255
Well, if we guess how they're molded.
>Body in half at waist
>Flat joints for arms
>Ball point for head
They'd be pretty posable, even moreso if it's a ball joint for the body too.
>>44712255
I've seen them first hand and they're cool. Warhammer Slayer tier,but without the Warhammer aesthetic touch.
Avatars of War also has some neat not¡Hammerers and dwarven heroes,if you're curious. It's a quite well known studio here in Spain.
>>44712341
I was talking about the AoS ones.
I have some Avatars of War ones and they're ok, but they suffer from bad posing.
>>44712237
Sculpting something on computer is not he same as in a physical medium. Just compare Adrian Smith's old paintings to his modern digital work. It lacks that certain something that the physical process did for the artist.
