Well that escalated quickly.
And all because Charlie couldn't handle an unexpected bit of difficulty in communication as well as he thought he could.
![[keikaku intensifies]_1.gif](https://i.imgur.com/bcoD1rb.gif "[keikaku intensifies]_1.gif")
>Parson doesn't realize he was baffled
>Thinks Charlie legit tried to kill him even though he turned
>Turns back to Gobwin Knob
>>44516889
Jack, MVP of the Year.
>>44515267
Does this mean war against the magic kingdom?
>>44515267
Is this it? Is Millhouse finally a meme?
>>44515267
Who are the casters next to Raistlin?
>>44516945
I think it also means war against every side they shot at through Portal Park.
>>44515501
Not really, they just didn't have time to brief his Archons before Parson came through.
>>44517028
Dunno, but you can see Boromir, Ned Stark, and Alec Trevelyan all get killed in a single panel. :p
Also Milhouse is a Hat Magician.
>>44516945
Probably a War inside the Magic Kingdom. Its been established that a lot of casters hate GK more than Charlie and they may see this as having been instigated by them instead.
Or everybody vs the Carnymancers.
>>44515267
Damnit, Milhouse is not a meme.
>>44517339
But the reason the archons didn't know that they shouldn't open fire is because Charlie's operation wasn't moving as smoothly as it usually does. He didn't even manage to order Parson to wait a moment while he made sure the order had gone through to hold fire.
>>44515267
I miss when this comic had good art.
>>44517286
If you have a very close look at the last panel, you'll see one of the shots bouncing off a purple portal.
It seems that you can launch attacks through a portal into the kingdom but not vice versa. Or something else. It's not very clear.
For example, how the heck did the Archon get through with Parson?
>>44516889
It's suggested that he was the one who gave Jack that idea.
Although presumably Gobwin's coffers should be overflowing with cash at the moment so.
>>44516989
Fuck. I just noticed that.
>>44517517
I'm assuming it has something to do with Charlie tampering with his own portal (he's at least running power out of it), so it's unlikely to work with the rest.
>>44517539
This is a possibility. Which means he may be able to march his Archons directly into the MK now.
>>44517515
Uh, that is good art - Xin's back
>>44515267
Parson just got shot in the knee ouch.
>>44517028
The guy to the left looks like he might be a reader cameo
>>44515267
Those bullets really just don't look right. I know there's going to be some spread at that distance, but they all appear to be traveling parallel to each other.
>>44515267
Well, anything Gobin Knob lost during Lilith's rampage most likely has been returned plus bonus, plus Charlie's going to get shit from all the other kingdoms who's casters he just killed, and casters are fucking expensive.
Wait, where's Jojo, did Jojo eat a bullet because that would be hilarious
>>44515267
Has Parson been hurt this badly previously? I can't remember if we've seen him bleed before.
>>44518103
>anything Gobin Knob lost during Lilith's rampage most likely has been returned plus bonus
Though it will immediately get halved again if Parson turns back, now they have the funds to foot it.
Assuming Stanley will let him turn.
>>44518237
Considering what Parson was shot with, he's lucky his legs didn't fly off.
But no, the most he's had was during the battle of Spacerock, where he was attacked repeatedly and ended up with a burning support beam landing on him.
Fuck, forgot about this series after it left GITP, I need to go catch up.
>>44518103
the treaty had a max of 5 million per offense
>>44518237
No. That's why he's screaming.
>>44518270
They started at over 2 million, so they're still up on the deal.
>>44518103
>Wait, where's Jojo, did Jojo eat a bullet because that would be hilarious
The most recent text update said he was veiled and hiding behind a portal so he's likely shielded from the bullets. More importantly the fact his employer essentially hired his arch-nemesis may change his attitude on Charlie.
>>44517895
>Xin
Compared to Jamie Noguchi? Nah, it's not. The lineart is heavy and uniform, so things on the same plane lack depth. The coloring has been really odd since Xin took over, like really heavy and splotchy. And the Erfworlders no longer look different from Parson.
>>44518365
Well Xin only does the lineart I believe, they have a separate colourer now.
And she's tons better than that guy they brought in between books 2 and 3
>>44518237
He was bleeding from the explosion, before he turned. I don't recall anyone else getting injured realistically like that, which would fit with the Erfworld's censoring. Although there are blood-drinking, vampires, so it's not completely unnatural.
>>44518400
Oh yeah, that's definitely true.
>>44518410
It appears Parson is the only one who bleeds.
>>44518365
That's the point. Parson's gradually becoming more like an Erfworlder.
>>44518264
Text updates add much more background and characterization, but you can skip them if you just want plot and action.
>>44517905
Uh, his left, our right rather.
The nautical caster on the other side could be from SeaWorld the side or Forecastle's side.
>>44517552
If he did mess with his portal in that way, it could easily be considered an act of war against the Magic Kingdom.
>>44515267
>2016
>Still reading Erfworld
>>44518445
It has been established that nobody in Erfworld bleeds. Parson, being a Stupidworlder, is a human.
I recall a post detailing how, from the Erfworlders perspective, Parson is essentially an eldritch abomination.
>>44515267
...did
did charlie just launch attacks on EVERY side's casters via the magic kingdom?
That's gonna cost 'im
>>44517513
I assumed that Charlie wanted Parson dead. I'm actually kind of surprised that he wasn't disbanded as soon as he turned.
>>44515267
People acting like they know what this webcomic is like it's Unsounded or GWTB.
>>44518962
No, he wanted Parson on his side.
>>44518962
He'd rather have him as a powerful ally than a useless corpse. But if that isn't possible, he'd also rather have him a useless corpse than a powerful enemy, especially one explicitly out to kill him.
Actually I'm not sure if working with Charlie is necessarily mutually exclusive with the conspiracy to get Parson to break the game. His wider motive beyond self-preservation against Fate hasn't been revealed yet.
>>44519055
He's got a point. Charlie probably more than anything else wanted Parson to not threaten him.
Not necessarily dead, but eliminated. Having him on his side might help, but it would be a risk if he could turn for whatever reason.
I guess he would have been "debriefed" by a mindrip before disbanded, as someone suggested in an earlier thread.
>>44519094
I think Charlie's main goal is just to survive through neutrality. He's got a crippling addiction he can only deal with by using the arkendish and has outlandish upkeep due to the cost of archons. He rents his services out to pay for his upkeeps without having to directly engage in war, while ensuring his customers continue to have enemies.
tldr: Charlie wants the status quo.
>>44518963
This /tg/ not /co/ most people would remember it from giantitp.com where Order Of The Stick is.
>>44518962
That's assuming that Parson can even BE disbanded. For all we know disbanding would just turn him into a Barbarian
>>44519690
Didn't Stanley just recently try disbanding Parson only to have it do nothing at all when Stanley found out the treasury was gone?
>>44519759
Wasn't that due to side-preserving mechanics though?
>>44519158
Also Erfworld literally wants to kill him. Fate is actively working against him, and Parson is being pushed by multiple parties to try to kill him.
>>44519759
Parson ordered Stanley not to disband him or Lilith, which is why he couldn't. It's not that Parson can't be disbanded, but that he shouldn't be able to issue orders to his ruler like that.
>>44519861
No, Chief Warlords can issue orders to their Rulers if the side is at stake, which it is.
>>44519894
Moreso they can ignore orders that will be suicidal to the side. It's hard to tell if Stanley actually tried to disband Parson since all we got was his eyebook message. Text updates seem to indicate that he trusts Parson a lot more then he says.
>>44519894
I remember warlords and casters can refuse to obey bad decisions from their ruler, but I can't recall where it was said they can actually issue orders.
>>44519972
I don't think they can order a ruler, which is why we had Maggie "suggest" things instead.
>>44519957
He wouldn't have known it didn't work unless he tried to disband either Parson or Lilith; the former might have been saved because he's a special case, but there was no reason Stanley couldn't disband Lilith except for Parson's order.
>>44519972
The CHIEF warlord can actively order thier ruler in times of extreme danger to the side. So Parson did, because he knew disbanding either himself or Lileth would be a disaster for GK.
>>44520033
I do wonder, which are more heavily mindraped: Charlie's regular Archons, or Wanda's decrypted ones?
>>44520166
Charlie's, he actually has abilities that facilitate mindrape while Wanda just had the Pliers. We've also seen Decrypted voluntarily turn against her.
>>44519158
Everything so far does seem to point toward his principle goal being self-preservation. A single isolated city, staffed by archons with unwavering loyalty thanks to the dish (hence his concern over Lilith's subversion), hiring himself out as a mercenary rather than getting involved in all the faction politics.
The Thinkamancers who want Charlie dead for being an uncontrolled upstart (who doesn't Think Alike in their own words) seem more interested in maintaining the status quo than Charlie is.
So if you were a Caster, and you got to choose, which kind of Caster would you be?
>>44520166
I suspect it's all the same thing; each tool seems to have the power of Obedience over a particular unit (hammer/dwagons, pliers/decrypted, dish/archons). Charlie is just discovering the strings the thinkamancers prefer to keep hidden.
>>44520229
Since I'm not intelligent enough to abuse rules for which multiple specialisation offer ample opportunity for, I think I'd go with something comfy like hippiemancy.
>>44520229
Luckamancer or Thinkamancer - the latter seems to be the most respected, although you are screwed if you violate the rules of their club.
>>44520331
Hippiemancy is one of the 8 classes of magic, not a caster type. There are three variations, one for Erf, one for Fate, and one for Numbers.
In this case, Flower Power, Signamancy, and Date-a-Mancy. I take it you were thinking of Flower Power?
>>44520376
Ah. Yeah, I suppose I was.
>>44517895
I'm not one to complain but I thought this page wasn't very good.
>>44520229
Personally, I'd be a Signamancer. I'm fascinated by the ability to affect things subtly by changing their appearance, as well as the consequences of Natural Signamancy.
Holy fuck.
letters, letters, letters.
Took me 10 minutes to work through the scream syllables.
>>44518741
It's more like blood stops existing out of the body. Like a lot of ugly things in Erfworld, it's not that blood isn't there it's just that the universe actively hides it.
We know creatures with drain can take blood from other creatures.
>>44520229
Flower Power. For security and sustenance.
I really, really want to stay alive.
>>44515267
I can see, like, 33 active portals, across the two wide panels. I guess there's something like 60 active sites? Maybe there's a lot more capitals site that just aren't being used as capitals.
>>44520441
C'mon live a little! Go Carnymancy, have some fun!
>>44520469
There should be a little over 200 portals in the Portal Park, if the number of sides haven't changed too much since the Dig Doug story.
>>44515267
let's see. 5 bullets hit GK units so the thing goes off 5 times. The attack on Parson can be ample enough for him to turn due to threat and self preservation, and at least 3 neutral casters got caught in the crossfire.
But the biggest losses for Charlie would probably be the fact his hidden ace is no longer secret and the ensuing lack of business. He can fire safely from his portal onto the casters in the magic kingdom and do so suddenly. Compare that to the decrypted and the fact you can see them coming and I'm pretty sure everyone will be pissed.
Isolation and merc contracts drying up for lack of trust will likely kill him if Parson doesn't.
>>44520777
There's no way he won't have some way to recover without Parson pressing him further.
Charlie just has too many plans.
>>44520795
And therein lies the problem. He has too many plans. This all came about because he had plans upon plans upon plans. Way too many steps and way too many factors. It worked well enough when he was indirect. Taking the hobgobs, whittling forces down, ending a turn prematurely, those worked well for him because he didn't put that much out there.
Then he got tempted with Lilith and tried to do shit like weasel his way around his own contract, possibly forcing GK's hand because Wanda is a idiot when it comes to fate. Hell, trapping his fortress with explosives when the hallways were very much a series of tubes was a dumb idea as well.
Having plans are good, but damn if he had WAY too many of them.
>>44515267
This is even worse than that goblins comic
I don't see how Charlie can recover from this, as it proves something that I have longed suspected.
That is the portals only care about a the unit having a caster special. In erfworld their are two types of caster specials. Their is the greater caster special which is solely for units for the purposes of casting. And the lesser caster special that units like the Archons have.
Which means that Charlie has a massive army specifically designed to attack the magic kingdom at any time.
>>44520229
Hunger or Gluttonymancy, it has to be a thing
>>44520992
No, it's not. We have a chart and everything. Food is just something that pops due to your upkeep, and you can eat pre-prepared food to lower your next turn's upkeep. No magic to it.
https://wiki.erfworld.com/Magic#Basics_of_Magic
Although I wonder what kind of Caster you'd need to affect Upkeep.
>>44515267
>Civ_V_Rifleman_Rush.jpg
>>44520934
I believe Charlie just hacked his portal and he was stockpilling weapons to conquer the MK at a moments notice.
From the MK, a guy like Charlie could attack all capitals at the same time, too fast for all sides to band together against CC.
I'm pretty sure he was planning a single, final military campaign and go from a one-city side to global overlord in one short leap.
Erfworld can't be conquered in short increments. The law of diminishing returns makes it so that the closer you are to controlling every city, the harder it is to stay afloat.
To conquer the world, you prolly need to do it in one turn. You can maybe take a few more turns if you have enough gems in stock (looking at you Charlie).
>>44521077
Does Charlie even want to rule Erfworld?
>>44521023
Probably moneymancer.
Croakmancers kind of do that already, though, ahah.
Also, eating anything besides your popped rations decreases your upkeep, so anything that helps you with farming (flower power and dirtamancy) will probably decrease upkeep indirectly.
>>44521097
Dunno, but the way to do it, the way I see it, is to lay low and stay small while stockpiling resources for your end-game phase. Charlie could do it if he kept doing his thing long enough.
>>44521077
Charlie isn't interested in ruling the world, though. Indeed, the prequel revealed his growing pacifism angered his daughter to the extent she staged a coup and tried to kill him. Even most encounters now, he'd prefer to work out a deal.
He's definitely planning something (involving his and Jillian's fate), but global conquest doesn't seem his style.
>>44521156
Charlie has a daughter?
Roll 2d22.
Two of the same number do not count
1: Findamancy
2: Predictamancy
3: Mathamancy
4: Turnamancy
5: Dollamancy
6: Weirdomancy
7: Dirtamancy
8: Changemancy
9: Dittomancy
10: Lookamancy
11: Moneymancy
12: Foolamancy
13: Flower Power
14: Signamancy
15: Date-a-Mancy
16: Shockmancy
17: Croakamancy
18: Hat Magic
19: Carnymancy
20: Rhyme-o-Mancy
21: Luckamancy
22: Healomancy
You are Chief Warlord of a side with these Two types of Casters and a Thinkamancer. How do you use your Linkups?
>>44521204
It's spelled out in the prequel story about Wanda.
This comic and you guys are so goddamn cringey.
>>44521204
Had. It's all in the prequel chapter.
I didn't bother reading it until the new updates started either.
Rolled 4, 22 = 26 (2d22)
>>44521224
Let's see here.
>>44521264
Uh. Healing over turns, sort of like regen in ff?
>>44521289
Turnamancy can erode a unit's loyalty over time, right? So maybe you could heal a unity's Loyalty to their side, prevent them from turning?
>>44521311
Didn't think of that!
Yeah, maybe that team could do HR management.
>>44521311
>>44521352
>>44521289
https://wiki.erfworld.com/IPTSF_Text_44
Turnamancers can make self-propelled vehicles so they should be capable of making automobiles?
Maybe they can make an ambulance?
>>44521204
Yes, Olive Branch the Chief Caster of Haffaton. She was a Florist who specialized in poison magic. Aside from crippling Charlie in an assassination attempt she also was responsible for destroying Wanda's initial side, and creating "Heroine Buds" which could be used to addict units and make them dependent on her for survival.
>>44521264
Maybe a way to stop enemy units from healing automatically at start of turn?
Rolled 14, 21 = 35 (2d22)
>>44521224
roll
Rolled 15, 22 = 37 (2d22)
>>44521224
Lemme see...
Rolled 7, 3 = 10 (2d22)
>>44522518
Date-A-Mancy and Healomancy...
let's see the wiki on both:
>Date-a-mancy is the magic of connections between units. Leadership, stacks, and love are natural date-a-mancy.
>Among other things, Hippiemancy is the magic of relationships: detecting and altering the forces of opposition and attraction which bind people or units. Date-a-mancy is the oddest branch of Hippiemancy, in that it follows the Numbers which underlie all action. Date-a-mancy tries to quantify the intangible, things like leadership and compatibility and morale and Loyalty and Duty and even love, by means of match-ups. This can be very useful in warfare and logistics, but tends to wreak havoc among personal and political relationships. Sides tend not to keep their Date-a-mancers very long, because knowing the cold truth behind our interpersonal relationships only causes grief.
>Healomancy is one of the three disciplines of the Magic class Clevermancy; it is aligned with the axis of Fate and is composed of none of the three elements of Life, Motion and Matter.
>Healing
>Healing spells that can heal hits, mend damaged body parts, and resolve incapacitation.
>Cure Status Effects
>Can undo various status effects, such as poison or blindness.
Okay... Maybe this one would be a better HR management than Healomancy+Turnamancy? Maybe this one can make a already turned city "un-turn" by healing the bonds of loyalty?
Since it studies the bonds between units, maybe I can remote heal or cure altering effects, by planting a proxy on a stack and keeping another one inside the capital and heal that one in order to remote-heal another unit? Maybe by casting a heal on my Leader, I can heal the entire faction?
Rolled 17, 14 = 31 (2d22)
>>44521224
Here goes nothing
>>44522678
Signamancy+Croakamancy.
Dunno what else, but I can see lots of corpsepaint
>>44522678
Huh. I suppose they could produce lifelike zombies, or inscribe detection runes. Maybe write a necronomicon.
Rolled 15, 20 = 35 (2d22)
>>44521224
Rollin!
>>44522809
>Rolled 15, 20
>Date-a-Mancy and Rhyme-o-Mancy
"Wanda is Red,
Charlie is Blue,
Serve Pliers or Dish?
They're both just a Tool."
>>44522995
>Date-a-Mancy and Rhyme-o-Mancy
So Rhyme-o-Mancy can affect entire stacks this way, or add on a buff to an entire side via a Warlord bonus?
So units can pass through Charlie's portal even if they are not casters. Interesting... Wasn't this kind of proven a long time ago when Ace made the little army man golem thing to try to spy on Charlie?
Do you think Wanda will get to decrypt those three dead casters?
>>44522622
Makes sense.
>>44523335
I would like that.
These Sean Beans will probably be dusted soon enough anyway. And you can sort of guess their personalities: Stark is loyal to a fault, bad with intrigue. Boromir is valiant albeit of lower moral fiber (most people will lose to the ring, so this might be a stretch).
>>44523335
>Do you think Wanda will get to decrypt those three dead casters?
Yes, but Parson is going to have to order her to make them turn back to their original side / go barbarian. He'll spin it as a PR move, hey look we ain't so bad we saved these people's lives. Not all decrypted are monsters.
>>44523624
Golems can go through portals; dollamancers will make war golems and sell them to sides through the portals. That's why the army man could do it, he was a golem.
It's probably a one way trip though, to keep sides from attacking the MK. Which matches up with them having to have the army man return to GK over land, and why they were so confused when it came back out the portal.
>>44523335
>Do you think Wanda will get to decrypt those three dead casters?
Are they actually dead? Maybe Marie's scroll will be enough.
>>44523822
Did you really mean to reply that to >>44523624?
Didn't you get switched around?
>>44521224
rollin
Rolled 2, 15 = 17 (2d22)
>>44523918
Always forget how to roll -_-
>>44523937
You can tell people who's their soulmate.
>>44523937
Predictamacy and Date-a-Mancy
This seems like an evil combo. Though Predictamacy would make almost anything better.
>>44515267
> all those units attacked by Charlsecomm
Looks like the money woes are over at least
> Parson thinks Charlie legit tried to kill him
Welp, that does shit for your loyalty. Although Hamstard was probably just waiting for an opportunity.
> Everyone else that got hit
Charley is in shit.
>>44523949
With high chances of success. Or destroy an entire side by knowing which relationships to break at certain times that would cause the entire social structure to collapse.
>>44515267
Why is Raistlin Majere there?
>>44524038
Kind of a gag of the comic. Most of the time that they need a caster on the background as an "extra" they place an easter egg like that.
>>44524038
There's always a bevy of random background characters in the MK. Also present in this page are Milhouse and three different Sean Bean's.
>>44524013
>Or destroy an entire side by knowing which relationships to break at certain times that would cause the entire social structure to collapse.
I think that was implied in one of the text updates concerning Janis.
Seeing the invisible bonds between people is meant to be troubling, I suppose.
Though with thinkamancy and predictamancy you can prolly elevate this to Cold War-tier espionage.
>>44515267
Why is Raistlin there?
I haven't read this comic since it left the giantitp domain.
>>44524084
Predictamancy, most powerful magic when paired with over half of the other magics
>>44522704
Dance fighting is a thing.
Might be able to make uncroaked that can dance fight without being led by a croakamancer.
Rolled 20, 8 = 28 (2d22)
>>44521224
Let's try this out.
>>44515267
All that screaming is probably lower his esteem with everyone present, they take a few bullets like it's an every day annoyance while he's crying like a baby.
>>44525233
Are erfworlders disabled by pain the way stupidworlders like Parson are?
>>44525313
No. Arms ripped off, chunks of torso removed, skin completely burned off, they still perform as well at 1 HP as if they're at full HP. At 0 they get X's in their eyes and that's it.
Rolled 11, 7 = 18 (2d22)
>>44521224
>>44525496
Mining gems more efficiently?
>>44525496
>>44525513
Nah man, MAKING gems to mine out. Twisting the numbers, inherent in the Erf, to make a former mine full of gems again.
Or maybe that's just me being stupid?
>>44525438
Then they may find Parson's cries of agony as confusing, puzzling, and terrifying, but not as "what a pussy", since they don't understand the kind of diabling pain he is experiencing.
>>44525513
>>44525549
YEAH DOSH MAGIC!
Rolled 9, 1 = 10 (2d22)
>>44521224
rolan
>>44525549
No, I guess that could work. You'd still have to spend something. Numbers have to come from somewhere.
Hey, how about traps that empty purses?
Rolled 19, 10 = 29 (2d22)
>>44521224
Let's have at it.
>>44525647
No, wait, I just remembered dirtamancers make golems. How about (ol' style jewish) golems that steal shmuckers?
>>44525628
Findamancy and Dittomancy. So like...Summoning or finding good units (in BFGK it says stanley couldn't get good warlords because he had no findamancers, and part of the summoning spell was findamancy), then duplicating them. Could be great for taking cities, move in with a small army then duplicate all your good units.
>>44525655
Lookamancy and Carnymancy?
Honestly I may well go for a Charlie-like operation. A pity that hiding units is foolamancy and not carnymancy but eh.
The ability to see far and tweak the rules.. I change things so that units see the enemy as foes and vice versa.
Carnymancy is tricky though, I'm not sure how to synergize it well with most disciplines, and lookamancy isn't the best for it even then.
>>44525647
This doesn't look like much but I think it'll make a clever (if a bit crass) visual gag.
>>44525673
Dortamancy is stuffamancy.. Units are at least partially stuff.
Maybe you have a way to turn corpses and even living units back into their schmucker cost?
Kill some dudes, convert them back into money, buy friendly units. With new/promoted units, kill more dudes. Convert to money. Repeat.
And that's aside from the sheer dosh that you can get with simple mining and city administration.
>>44525737
Carnymancy is the magic of rigging the game and breaking rules. In links carnymancy can be applied to allow the other caster to break the rules and limitations of the other discipline. In the Battle for Spacerock this allowed Vanna (a turnamancer) to end GK's turn early.
When applied to lookamancy, carnymancy should allow the lookamancer to look where he couldn't before. Perhaps seeing into someone's thoughts or plans, perhaps looking into future turns or into past ones to see what transpired.
>>44525953
>I kill people and sell their corpses for money.
Would look good if the side responsible had something of a bounty-hunter theme.
>>44526242
I was thinking more, tossing their corpses into a melting pot and turning a tap on the base for money to fall out.
But bounty hunting sounds more erfworld-y.
Prepare for mandalorian armor infantry.
>>44526366
>I was thinking more, tossing their corpses into a melting pot and turning a tap on the base for money to fall out.
That sounds a bit... Nazi-ish.
>>44526414
>That sounds a bit... Nazi-ish.
I call it efficient.
It's like Warcraft with the plague cauldrons. Except for money.The side lead not by the Lich King but by the Rich King.
>>44526366
>Jango as King
>Boba as Heir
>Regular soldiers are Clone Troopers
>Knights can be either ARCs, Clone Commandoes or Mandos
>Chief Bossk leads Trandoshan Natural Allies
>IG-72 and the IG-88s as elite golems made by some kind of caster linkup
>>44520229
Dittomancer. Then i'd try to do what i could to learn other disciplines and buy scrolls. Duping scrolls, chief warlords, other casters, and so on seems like it'd open up a path to making a powerful side.
Makes links a bit safer as well as you could dupe the thinkamancer, have the clone take the thinkamancers place in the link and eat all the backlash if you have to drop it fast.
huh i wonder if a dittomancer/thinkamancer/dirtamancer(or dollamancer) link up would allow you to make a 'mold' of a specific unit or golem and then 'cast' it at a later date.
>>44526555
>TR-8R is the Warlord
Rolled 17, 17 = 34 (2d22)
>>44521224
let's do this anon.
Rolled 2, 6 = 8 (2d22)
>>44528689
titans dammit. gotta reroll since doubles don't count
>>44528721
Ok so. this is awkward but i can work with it.
Weirdomancery is the magic of modifying magic, along with adding or subtracting special qualities. along with possibly buffing or debuffing units.
Ok so i can see a few ways right off the bat that this link up could work.
DUES VULT: a spell that gives bonuses to my units so long as they follow a predicted battle plan. Essentially cheating for fate. Maybe even allowing me to debuff my enemies if they follow the prediction as well, forcing them to either eat my debuff, or get dicked by fate if they try to avoid it.
Contingency: delayed spells that changed a units stats/specials when certain conditions are met. No one expects a stack of stabbers to suddenly have the Siege special when they reach the walls of an enemy city. Or for a group of knights to develop fire immunity right when the enemy Dwagon decides it's time to roast people.
Winds of Destiny, CHANGE: quite possibly the spell i would refuse to use cause the backlash would almost certainly end the side, use weirdomancy to modify a prediction spell so that events line up to your liking instead of what fate has already planned.
The Titans will it.
>>44526555
Schultz was the former king (dead now).
I wonder how many are going to die before this is all over.
I stopped reading this a long while ago because the comic stopped appearing and I kept getting paragraphs of story rather than pictures
Does it get better
So I spent the day reading everything i missed since i stopped reading.
Problems of the medium aside (switching to novel writing in the middle of your comic really brakes the flow. especially when you make novels for the action, and comics for the dialogue).
Does it bother anyone else that Parson switched sides during his parley OFF FUCKING SCREEN?! With no explanation given, just a clothing change.Not even some bullshit wall of text.
>>44531519
it bothered me some, but that was the reveal.
>>44531519
>Does it bother anyone else that Parson switched sides during his parley OFF FUCKING SCREEN?! With no explanation given, just a clothing change.Not even some bullshit wall of text.
It'll be retroactively revealed, I'm sure of it. For the instant we're seeing the events from the lens of Jack and others, not Parson, so to them it literally just happened and that was that.
>>44531587
I hope so, but the comic never worked like this before, so it just feels like they left out a page
>>44531698
He'll probably do a novel page from Charlie's point of view.
>>44531698
it was a thinkagram so it all happened instantly.
Lots of bullet heading towards those slightly tilted portals. Ricochet hell incoming.
>>44521224
I have a lust for revenge!
Rolled 248, 62 = 310 (2d622)
Rolled 7, 1 = 8 (2d22)
>>44533003
>whoop whoop whoop
>>44521224
Roll 2d22.
So is it possible for a Barbarian caster to take a Capital City and found a side?
>>44533023
Dirtamancer called O.D.B and Findamancer named J.J Get-it pair up to make cheap but functional rock clones of items and units?
>>44533632
Yes. Any commander unit can take a capital city and found a city provided they are the only unit in the garrison of that capital city.
>>44533632
any Barbarian can, I.E Stanely.
>>44534027
That would be a dittomancer and a dirtamancer would it not?
Findamancer and dirtamancer would be able to locate gems easily, find specific hexes (city hexes?) and maybe create hunter-seeker golems.
how do new cities get made?
>>44535176
Barbarians can spontaneously pop in unseen hexes. Barbarians can start sides with unclaimed captial site hexes.
Put the two together and you get new sides.
As for cities in general, I guess a warlord or a caster -or potenially any unit- stands in the potential city hex and either they or their leader depending on what authority is needed orders a new city to be built.
>>44531587
Keep note of the fact that the majority of our perspective is typically from the member of GK's point of view and that the last time someone made a deal with CC and betrayed GK we were no longer able to see their perspective.
>>44531519
>Does it bother anyone else that Parson switched sides during his parley OFF FUCKING SCREEN?! With no explanation given, just a clothing change.Not even some bullshit wall of text.
Not really. Previous bullshit wall of text when he listed unit transfer options made it pretty clear how cornered he was.
I'm more curious whether getting shot was part of his plan, and I assume it was.
I had given up on this comic sometime shorty after the fall of Jetstone.
After a, relatively short lived, thread on /co/ I spent the better part of the last two days getting caught up.
Is it just me or have the text sections gotten better? They actually felt tolerable this time.
Part of me wants to start again from the beginning and read all the bits I skipped before.
>>44515267
That is such a tiny head goddamn. Needs better artists.
>>44520417
Underrated post, 10/10.
>>44540096
>I'm more curious whether getting shot was part of his plan, and I assume it was.
I'm not sure he (or Jack) even knew they were waiting with machine guns on the other side. From Parson's perspective, it could seem Jack had just tried to get him killed.
>>44531519
Either there were conditions to his turning which weren't revealed yet for narrative reasons, or Charlie strong-armed him into turning with the 'dish. He usually has Maggie on his calls trying to protect him from any underhandedness.
>>44540096
I'm curious just how much of Parson's allegiance switched sides when he did.
Obviously him dropping hints to Jack is proof enough that some part of him is still loyal to his old ways. His interactions with Marie though makes it seem like at least there is a bit of loyalty to Charlie.
I also wonder just how much he could have drained Charlie's finances if the moment he switched he just started punching ever GK unit he could until he got disbanded, or if he was even capable of doing that.
>>44540656
Look at it from Parson's perspective. What is his ultimate goal? It's not to beat Charlie, it's to survive. If he has to survive under Charlie, that's fine. Sure, he's made some friends but for the most part, he's looking out for himself.
>>44540656
If I remember correctly, turned units have notoriously low loyalty to their new sides. But I'm not sure if that applies here, since he agreed to turn rather than be forced. And not working in the best interest of his side could still cause automatic disbandment.
>>44540699
>Something painful was associated with the words he now spoke
I'm pretty sure Parson just made good on his resolution to not order his troops (including Lilith) to do things he would not do himself.
>>44540096
>was getting shot part of your plan
Parson is a very big guy.
>>44540699
Charlie would probably be a far better boss than Stanley anyway.
It's not like he has all that much to go back to with GK. Stanley already hates him, and his sudden turning won't have done much to improve that. Wanda continues to create problems for him, and Jack is now subservient to Wanda. Maggie is the only real loss for him.
Besides, Parson has already realized he's being railroaded by the game, which is the kind of thing Charlie could help break him from. If Parson wants to fufill Janis' hope of breaking the game enough to make peace possible, following the path it has been pushing him down seems the wrong thing to do long-term. The game won't sit idle and let him break it: it wants to keep the fighting going (animating Stanley's tower revealed cities like being fought over, even).
>>44541213
Actually it's Charlie who wants the fighting going on forever, it's his livelihood to pit sides against each other, hire out his forces to them and gets paid by all of them. He may be rigging the game, but he's not rigging it to end. Parson would be less likely to bring about piss on erf under his command than he would if he helped Stanley conquer everyone else.
Come to think of it, if Parson was traded for almost 500,000 Smuckers, then turning back for 5 million seems like a perfectly good deal for his current side. He almost has to turn, if Jack were to ask again.
>>44541085
>Parson is a very big guy.
That joke is probably coming actually. Almost mandatory. It is Erfworld after all.
>>44541247
I'm not really sure where Charlie stands on the whole peace-on-erf thing. Foremost at the moment seems to be his own survival (and/or curing his present condition. Decryption would cure him, but I doubt he wants to become another of Wanda's salves). Don't forget, acting as a mercenary is one of the ways he keeps himself safe from the royal sides, him being a non-royal ruler.
>>44541310
>Come to think of it, if Parson was traded for almost 500,000 Smuckers, then turning back for 5 million seems like a perfectly good deal for his current side. He almost has to turn, if Jack were to ask again.
True. And after all the attacks Charlie landed on GK units he'll actually need at least some of the cash back.
>>44541336
He is researching how Tool-controlled units will works. That might be his plan.
>>44541310
>He almost has to turn, if Jack were to ask again.
Given Jack is at least partially to blame for him getting shot, he might not be too happy with him right now.
I suspect it's more likely he'll have to turn if he wants to be included with the mass healomancy scroll.
Rolled 21, 2 = 23 (2d22)
>>44521224
>>44521224
>>44541421
Are you flipping serious?
God, this is too easy. Luckamancy+Predictamancy is a HUGE fucking OP combo, but it's still kinda... eeeehn, boring? I mean sure, I can play merry hell with fate now, but STILL.
>>44541408
Yeah, he was especially interested in how Lilith was still linked to Wanda, and how it had replaced his own connection to the archons.
Even Parson is reluctant to let Wanda decrypt people he actually cares about.
>>44541434
You basically get alterable success percentages for every action you plan to take.
>Okay, so from the passive effect, we know that taking this city with these forces has a 60% chance of success
>Alright, taking it is key to routing that side, so let's go ahead and have our Casters spend some juice to bump it up to 90%
Add a Mathamancer in there and you could probably ignore any juce-to-percentage increase ratio there.
>>44541434
Doesn't predictamancy only work on a unit which is "fated" to do something? It's useless if there is no fated outcome.
>>44541508
Every unit is fated though.
>>44541508
Delphie used her predictamancy to wipe out another units entire air forces by guiding her sides defenses with perfect hit accuracy in Book 0.
>>44541213
Stanley likes Parson, but he is also jealous of him(because he can go to the Magic Kingdom) and has confidence issues, probably because of the way his predecessors died.
>>44541508
Predictamancy can also do short-term predictions that are separate from fate. Like predicting whetever an attack will hit or not or dodging.
How do you guys do rolls?
>>44540378
Natural signamancy, bro. Stanley wanted someone big.
>>44544456
For him.
top kek, must have missed this one first time around
>>44531324
it alternates between full comics and the written story bits. Now that the whole artist situation has calmed down it's at about a 2:1 ration with comics to text updates.
I kind of like the text updates so I don't mind it. If you don't like them though you won't like the comic
>>44544962
I totally forgot about that one.
>>44541531
Actually, no, Delphie from Wanda's original side said that only certain units are Fated, whereas others have no fate either way but can be steamrolled by Fate in passing.
http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%200/24
>>44545250
Yeah, you can get the gist of what's going on with comic only, but its still tricky.
Janis is huge compared to other Erfworlders, but nobody comments on it while Parson being huge is apparently a big deal.
>>44546388
Ace is even bigger then her.
Parson is huge even when compared to twolls.
>>44546388
Parson was actually classed as a Heavy unit when he first arrived. Since he promoted himself to Knight in the battle for Spacerock he's slimmed down a little.
>>44517442
how did I not notice that...fucking most based Erfworld
>>44546388
The Magic Kingdom portals seem much too tall for the height of all the casters who actually use them, but about the right size for Parson.
Rolled 2, 8 = 10 (2d22)
>>44521224
rollan
>>44546684
He didn't promote himself to Knight, he promoted himself to field unit (from garrison unit).
Rolled 10, 18 = 28 (2d22)
>>44521224
Rolling time
>>44523843
They had the Xs in their eyes
>>44546684
I thought all he did was promote himself to a field unit, from garrison.
>>44547281
Predictamancy and Changamancy. I don't really see much use for this pair in a linkup, but we don't know enough about Changamancy to figure out the finer details.
Rolled 1, 3 = 4 (2d22)
>>44547612
Changemancy is very much like Dirtamancy except it's for smaller and more complex objects.
dice+2d22
Not sure if i'm rolling.
Rolled 4, 12 = 16 (2d22)
Findamancy + Mathamancy
A spell that finds every number of the enemy side in the same battlespace.
Let's try again.
>>44546388
>relative height keeps changing in each panel
Fuck that's some bad art.
Rolled 2, 13 = 15 (2d22)
Turnamancy + Foolamancy
Easy one
>>44516889
They just need the cash so he can turn back
Rolled 11, 20 = 31 (2d22)
>>44521224
Rollin super late edition.
>>44548446
Or they can just let him bleed to death and decrypt him, and save themselves 5 million.
>>44548391
Predictamancy + Flower Power
A drug that allows one unit to see it's own fate.
>>44549295
It's better to have a unit like Parson alive with the option of decrypting open. For one, the depiction to the Tool could effect his ability, and two; a decrypted unit cannot be re-decrypted as they collapse into dust.
Him being alive lets GK decrypt if killed.
Him being decrypted leaves GK without a chief warlord if killed.
>>44549295
I don't think Stanley would be happy about his Chief Warlord being under Wanda's control.
>>44549433
On the flip side, did anyone find it really neat how Wanda's obsession with decrypting Jack at the start of book 2 turn out to be because then he could talk about Charlie and the events of Book 0?
>>44549510
I did like that. At the time it was just thought to be Wanda being a fucking homicidal maniac, but it turns out to have been in the best interest of the side.
It's the details like that which really make this comic sing.
>>44549433
Wanda didn't have any reservations about letting Maggie die to decrypt.
>>44549453
I wonder how aware Stanley is of what's happening right now. He must know that Parson turned, but the exact details aren't going to have been relayed to him. Kill & decrypt seems a sensible response to getting a warlord back, if he doesn't realize he may wish to return willingly.
Plus it'd cut down on his relatively huge upkeep.
>>44549981
Wanda's crazy though. And she's a caster, not a tactician.
>>44550013
I think that just makes her more likely to do the wrong thing in this case. She's made plenty of bad decisions when Parson wasn't around to stop her, and the only ones around her now are all decrypted under her control.
Plus Marie, who was threatening to shoot him for decryption anyway.
>>44550127
The big question is, can Parson be decrypted?
>>44548446
not really, Charlie has to run out of cash first. It was implied in the conversation he had before the dish went down that they could fire through the portal and *almost* empty their treasury.
But, I imagine under the circumstances it will be easy enough to get a master-class turnamancer to work on him. I hope though that Parson ends up without a ruler. That would be rad.
>>44550344
Healomancy certainly works, and I can't recall any magic not working on him yet.
>>44550472
Nah, Parson ends up overlord of a spun-off side, like that guy who started a colony of another side in the sea-going interlude. Still gets to hang out with his GK buddies but has more independence.
>>44550472
That would be quite the ad on the MK board.
>Perfect Warlord + Master Mathamancer!
>Hire today! Stop losing battles and be a WINNER!
>High maintenance cost, but worth every schmucker!
>Just look at these quotes from former side members!
>"I guess he's alright" -Sizemore, dirtamancer
>"He did WHAT?!" -Wanda, attuned croakamancer
>"Parson? Screw him. Clever though, I'll give him that." -Stanley the Tool
>"SKRONK!" -red dwagon
>"This interview is over." -Maggie, thinkamancer
>>44549981
She was pissed at Maggie and she would probably receive a huge power boost from decrypting a thinkamancer.
>>44550472
GK just needed enough funds to cover another penalty, which Parson turning would incur. And they definitely have now that units have been killed/injured.
Of course, all this is assuming Parson actually did want to turn back, and wasn't just providing a believable excuse to get through the portal.
>>44546388
Janis sure has the hots for Parson.
![695a631a9d[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gKtNIcV.jpg "695a631a9d[1].jpg")
>>44546388
>>44551184
>TFW being cucked by a hippiemancer
HOW CAN THINKAMANCERS EVEN COMPETE?
>>44550607
>Lilith: I took a bullet for him. I was ready to die on command. How could he betray us like this.
>>44515267
So what are the chances Gobwin Knob still get the blame for this? I mean, they're the ones with troops in the Magic Kingdom, hanging around the Charlescomm portal with a bag of guns.
>>44544962
it used to have /tg/ as a bookmark on Parson's computer in the beginning before Rob got butthurt about something and changed it to SA
>>44551625
I'd say fairly good, until they pull out the mass healing scroll and use it to heal everyone.
>>44551724
Can't heal the dead.
The pliers will do their thing on those Sean Beans.
>>44551746
I realize the bullets are still flying but I don't see any dead. Besides half an Archon and one dusted uncroaked.
Maybe that second caster in the last panel that got shot through the chest.
Everyone else looks like they managed to take cover in time or took non-lethal hits.
>>44551525
Well he turned so she wouldn't be turned over so
>>44551724
Mostly their own units though.
>>44551860
You have to zoom in to make it out, but the 3 casters in that bottom panel have X'd eyes to indicate they're dead.
>>44551923
>>44551860
Also, those three casters are Sean Bean(lotr), Sean Bean(got), and Sean Bean(die hard). Spoiler: Sean Bean dies in this one. I think I have those origins right.
What is Charlie busy with? Current theory is that he is negotiating with Stanley, because Parson, as a Charlescomm unit, just violated the confidentiality part of The Agreement by babbling about details in front of Marie and so Gobwyn Knob gets to claim a city from Charlescomm. Charlescomm only has one city.
