>Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&usp=sharing
>IRC
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA
>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn
>It all returns to nothing
>>44482326
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year.
>>44497108
THE HYPE TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES.
IT'S GOING DOWN.
>>44497108
Happy fucking new years holy shit
>>44497108
Happy New Year you magnificent fucks!
>>44497108
WOO THANK YOU
>>44497108
Thank you. This Jump fills me with determination for the new year.
So what's Metalocalypse etiquette? Do you do both, is lowercase or UPPERCASE preferred over the other...?
Just at a first glance I'm favoring Alera Anon's version, since it doesn't just focus on the band itself and include Klokateers and references the myth arc more.
>>44497108
WOOOOO
HAPPY NEW YEAR
>>44497181
While it might have been miscommunication I mostly see it as a "are you metal enough to go the twice" type of deal
>>44497108
Hell yes, happy new year.
If you edit, mind adding page breaks before each section so stuff doesn't get split between pages?
>>44497108
>Ghost
>Possess inanimate object
>"For 100 cp more, you may import any inanimate object no smaller than a mouse, and no larger than a jet fighter."
>Supernatural Jump
>Classic Muscle Car
>"You can import a previous vehicle and give it the appearance of a classic muscle car, retaining its former abilities."
>Light of Terra ACU Mortarr Head
>All capabilities intact
>Muscle Car sized
>Smaller than a jet fighter
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. YEEEEES!
>>44497225
Good idea, though the program I used to make this doesn't have the option to show pages.
>>44497237
That's actually kind of a wicked combo, not going to lie.
I'm going to enjoy having a magically attuned body soon enough, though trying to reconcile that with being made of nanomachines is going to be rough...and I don't even want to KNOW how that works with Karma Chamelon
>>44497181
Use either one you prefer.
>>44497293
Yeah, that basically hit me as soon as I got up to that point in the jump.
Of course, I can't actually use it because my LoT doesn't meet the "inanimate object" classification. Oh well. There are some neat theming magics available.
>>44497181
While I support the freedom to choose whichever jump you prefer, I too favor Alera Anon's version
>>44497354
Makes me think of that Jojo stand now.
>>44497108
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW YYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I'm really tempted to retcon this before Touhou in my chain. Just so I can use the ALL THE COLORS during Danmaku...
Happy New Years ya bastids.
>>44497108
See this?
Jump it.
>>44497108
Why must you tempt me with so many good perks when you know I'll never be able to afford them all?
>>44497423
It's the Dark Hadou of Jumpmaking. It's spreading everywhere, as it should.
(I can't really retroactively introduce it to Kid Radd's perks...but the GEAR however~)
>>44497108
How difficult is this setting for the uninitiated to the series? does the plot fix itself or is this something that is basically damning as a first or second jump?
>>44497108
>that secret
I was expecting chara, but that's pretty excellent
>>44497438
You willing to play the game because I am willing to gift the game to you if you wish to find out.
>>44497438
The notes say that as long as you don't kill anyone, the plot is going to go the True Pacifist route automatically. So it's completely safe, so long as you don't do anything horrible. You wouldn't do anything horrible, would you?
>>44497423
Wrath mantra. I feed off of your rage.
>>44497438
If you do nothing, the plot will resolve itself. This jump is as relaxing as you make it.
>>44497438
If you don't kill anyone or thing (except ghosts, who can't die anyways unless they're bound to an item) during your stay here, then the plot will pretty much fix itself. Getting the perks and laying low is an extremely valid option. Unless you're a human, in which case it's valid but also boring as fuck since the only place where monsters won't actively try to fight you is the Ruins, with Toriel.
>>44497455
No time really, I barely have time to do daily things, much less play through a full video game. days of all day gaming are pretty much gone now unfortunately.
>>44497484
It's mentioned in the human bio, though I can see why that'd be necessary information.
>>44497108
Jump #11, Undertale:
Location: Ruins
Background: Fallen Human
Perks: Summon Annoying Dog, Blessing of Toby Fox, DETERMINATION, ACT, MERCY, SAVE the World
Magic: Bullet Patterns
Companions: Sans
Gear: College Fund x2, Food Museum, Echo Flower Seeds
Drawbacks: What’s a MIDI file? SOME RANDOM WINGDING TEXT,ASRIEL DREEMUR
Oh boy, this is going to be fun, having to dealACTUAL FUCKING SPOILER ALERTwith Flowey being an ass, and then turning him into Asriel, and THEN getting Chara to fuck the fuck off.
Christ on a pogo stick if I didn't have the charisma perks from this it'd be impossible.
>>44497479
The game takes about 6 hours for a single play-through if you take your time, and saves are frequent enough that you consume it in 20-minute chunks if that's all the time you have.
>>44497515
alternatively you could be a complete cockbag and spend about 24 hours on worst ending, with about 18 hours of it being the two boss fights
I have so, so many regrets, but it was almost worth it for that Sans fight, just, holy shit it felt GOOD to go through that, cathartic pain
>>44497108
I need to read what that Wingding text says, but copy+pasting it is FUCKED
I've been waiting a while to say this, but...
Anyone else tempted to take "Anime is Real" and keep that drawback for almost the remainder of their chain?
Cause that's hilarious in places like say..Platoon.
>>44497559
The thought had occured to me.
>>44497551Dark, Dark, yet darker
How interesting...
>>44497108
Brows I love you as a Jumpmaker but I hate you for doing this to me for companions. I can't for the life of me. Find or justify a reason for them to follow me. I don't want to break them apart nor do I just want to take one without taking them all. I love and hate you for making this jump.
>>44497509
>Blessing of Toby Fox
>What's a midi file?
You poor fool.
>>44497527
pic related
>>44497551DARK, DARKER, YET DARKER
>>44497585*Dark, Darker yet Darker
How did I fuck that up?
>>44497595
what, it's just 10 years of the the song in midi, then I get to hear it in normal, right?
>>44497108
>Two drawback limit
Oh come on, that's unnecessarily cruel.
>>44497559
>"These Japs just aren't giving in."
>"Looks like we'll have to use... THAT."
>pushes up shiny anime glasses
>days later
>prototype mech 'Little Boy' is deployed with an inexperienced but highly skilled teenaged pilot to cut through waves of superpowered cyborg ninjas
>>44497672
Brows wants all of our points. Just like Red, Dirge, and a couple other jump makers. They will build a castle from our tears of suffering.
>>44497616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M23Nz3v0jaU
>>44497683
Is it wrong that I actually would want to see something like that?
>>44497108
Jump #11, Undertale:
Location: Ruins
Background: Fallen Human
Perks: Summon Annoying Dog, Blessing of Toby Fox, DETERMINATION, ACT, MERCY, SAVE the World
Magic: Bullet Patterns
Companions: Sans, Papyrus
Gear: None
Drawbacks:DARK, DARKER, YET DARKER, ASRIEL DREEMUR
Redid the jump because I realized Papyrus would probably come with his own food museum, also I couldn't take Sans without Papyrus.
>>44497404
Hi there! Happy New Year!Still no luck with internet?
>>44497108
How do I roll A dTemmie ?
>>44497813
You take a Temmie, and then you roll it, and whatever Temmie it lands on, that's what you Temmie.
>>44497813
An appropriate time to use this.
Also: You draw from a deck of cards, obviously.
>>44497813
You let Temmie vibrate for an extended period of time, and whatever her face lands on is your result.
>>44497840
Bitch do you think this is a game?
>>44497858
So 1D52?
>>44497881
Seriously? Because I don't have a vibrating Temmie... Guess I'll have to pick another option than
>>44497898
The joke is that the age roll cannot possibly matter, because Temmies basically remain in physical and mental stasis for their entire lives. Because they're Temmie.
But if you really want to roll something, do a Dog age roll.
>>44497898
It's ok, Bancho, just use your face. I'm pretty sure you're close enough to a Temmie to count.
>>44497898
>tfw you never continued playing past the point you murdered Toriel
>>44497953
Anon please. Just because you failed at getting passed the Toriel doesn't mean you need to greentext it.
>>44497945
Oh okay.
>>44497947
Pretty sure that's an insult.
>>44497953
Actually now I'm stuck at the fish lady, and I haven't Even struck her.
>>44497953>he doesn't know you don't have to kill Toriel
>>44497945
Out of curiosity if you purchase Friskdo the come with Chara?
I mostly had an idea that seemed amusing if they did.
>>44498123
Dude no,Bad idea.
>>44498123Kind of. They're dormant, like they would be on a Pacifist run, but I'm sure with enough work you can coax them out.In fact, that's basically necessary for the secret ending...
>>44498164
Would a combination of Lord of light reincarnation technology along with FMA alchemy be able to separate them? because Fisk is a decent kid and doesn't deserve that complete ass hole riding inside of them.
>>44498139
What's the worst that can happen?Contract of the Fallen Child, Job Offer from Chara, just off the top of my head.Oh god, since when was bancho the voice of reason?
>>44498189
>Suggesting human transmutation
We all know how well that ends.
It ends poorly. Every time. Without fail.
>>44498139
>>44498164
If your curious my idea wasTrying to reconstruct the videogame deconstruction by attempting to teach Chara the concepts of side quests, minigames, narrative events, minimaxing, and basically
'actually getting 100% completion instead of losing potential content'. That and the idea of Chara ending up doing stuff like going "Can't kill everyone yet I'm not done catching all the fish, and I still haven't found enough ::insert side quest:: items here::. Oh and I need to get those rare items" really amusing.
>>44498227so prolonging the existence of the world with DLC and forcing them to be even more completionist than just "time to see what happens when I kill everyone"
Amazing
>>44498227
-actual spoilers-Daily reminder that Chara only decides to destroy everything if you give them lots of LOVE. Before they died, they only hated humanity for an unspecified reason.
>>44498226
Oh no transmutation, I'm just gonna sort through their spiritual essence and put Chara Somewhere safe where they can't hurt anybody, I'm thinking I'll Put them in a copy of their old body and set up a super computer With a Replika of the underground and its contents except for actors, so They will be unable to hurt anyone or interact with the real world in any meaningful way. You know Like what they would have Had if they completed their genocide Run
>>44498197
I keep telling you folks I'm trying!
>>44497108
Yo, Brows. What happens if you have specific perks that enable you to remember time shenanigans? Would "I'm Not Ready To Let Go" override them?
I know the answer is generally always drawbacks win over perks, I just ask because that seems like the kind of thing you wouldn't need to account for, normally. It's a pretty esoteric ability.
>>44498261
... that's pretty close to human transmutation there.all these people blaming chara for their actions. chara does nothing wrong unless you push them to. (though they're still not a great person even before they died)
>>44498271
Drawbacks override perks in all situations. Even if your memory is immune to weird time shit, it's not immune to the True Reset.
>>44498242
That's basically the idea.
>>44498246
I kind of forgot about that part.
>>44498285
... what about a regular reset?
>>44498285
well actually there's one specific perk that ovverrides a drawback and that's pokeglot/antiglot, as confirmed by the jumps' creator BUT STILL
>>44498297
If you're an observer, then you might see the human kill some stuff before getting around to true pacifist. Or not! Depends on what kind of story you'd want to write. They'll never do a Genocide run, though.
>>44498285
Nope. They override perks in that setting but not perks from other settings. See Quicksilver's ancient rulings on pokemon language in his mystery dungeon jump.
>>44498285
>>44498321
WellSansis immune to a true reset. What's stopping a jumper with ripple proof memories! And Frisk is immune to a true reset as well.Flowey ALLOWED himself to be reset anyway.
And the playthrough on the second run is slightly different dependent on what run you've done previously, Characters will make slight nods to your actions prior.
Convincing a benevolent entity to move on is hard enough. Trying to do it while having your memories erased each time is next to impossible without some kind of chaos theory bullshit that makes a jumper not follow normal protocol and do something different each reset. At the very least offer some resistance retaining some bit of info from the previous run and have a jumper piece it together before the next reset.
>>44498321
>>44498326
Technically Antiglot only says you don't automatically gain the ability to understand pokemon talk just by being one, not that you lose the capability to do so.
>>44498326
No, not how it works, never has been. That ruling was a one off and the guy's stuck to the same rule as everyone else for everything else. Drawbacks override ALL perks.
>>44498326
Double nope, that one specific drawback allows that one specific perk, because it only exists because that jump gave you that perk for free and he didn't think it was fair to screw people over because they bought a perk months before PMD was even announced.
>>44498321
Also do we keep monster forms As alternate forms after the jump?
>>44498326
Really? I guess I can't really say for sure, then. Usually, the rule seems to be that drawbacks ovverride all perks, and the PMD thing was an exception???
I guess it's up to your specific judgement, but I usually err on the side of "Perks cannot override drawbacks" because then all those "you fugly" drawbacks would be made meaningless by all the "you pretty af" perks.
>>44498367
No, Bancho, unlike every other jump in existence you lose your purchased forms straight after the jump, the benefactor no longer provides access to OF COURSE YOU KEEP THEM AS ALT FORMS.
>>44498351
[spoilers]Sans is not immune. He still loses his memories, it seems, but somehow keeps a photo of the ending.[/spoilers]
>>44498367
What would make you think the contrary?
>>44498396
Did you forget to trip? because I'm not sure that's your call, and if that was a thing every jump in which you Are human would Give a human alt-form Which would be pretty cool if you assume that your done in the art style of whatever that jump was based on.
>>44498351
>Well Sans is immune to a true reset.
This is actually not true. (at least as far as I'm aware)
He's aware of the EXISTENCE of time traveler(s), and is observant enough to notice small cues in people with ripple effect proof memories in order to make the proper deductions.
But he does NOT have ripple proof memory.
>>44498388
He's wrong, ignore him. Perks are overridden by drawbacks no matter what. Anything else is fanwank.
>>44498351
I thoughtSanswasn't immune to the true resets, he was just capable of detecting when they happened.
>>44498354
Odd. Why is it considered a one off?
>>44498353
I thought it locked you out entirely. I'll take another look.
>>44498366
Huh. I swear the rule continued to other jumps, but stopped being mentioned after QS jumped ship.
>>44498388
Fair point.
>>44498404
Because it wasn't mentioned one way or the other, and I get in trouble for assuming things.
>>44498404
Your failure at spoiling is for all to see.
>>44498388
You are correct, drawbacks override all perks. The PMD one isn't even an exception, the perk doesn't say you can't talk to pokemon, it just says you don't get free pokespeech just by being a pokemon. Pokeglot works, but so would any other jump with a perk letting you speak any language or communicate without language, and a perk letting you learn languages faster should still let you learn to communicate if you lack one granting communication outright.
>>44498351
>>44498321
Actually, yeah, Sans has that room that survives even in the event of a true reset. Shouldn't you be able to do something...?
Otherwise, realistically, the only way you can stop the True Reset is to never allow the monsters to reach the surface, ever, and keep trying to stop it until the player gives up the game in disgust. You can't even give them the chance of a happy ending, because even if you got them to promise through command prompts, there's still a pretty good chance you'd lose all your memories and get caught in an infinity loop.
That's the kind of drawback where you either go villain or go home.
>>44498424
it's 3:40 am cut me some slack
>>44498419
Is there any jump where you lose your altforms? Because I can't remember a single jump where that's the case.
>>44498404
I just thought of something. How does the Lost Souls drawback work if you either don't import eight companions and/or have more than eight active do to pods, and how does it interact with the whole 'you can switch your active companions at any time thing'?
>>44498416
>I thought it locked you out entirely. I'll take another look.
It's mostly that it says you don't gain it automatically. Not that you lose it. It also implies other ways of learning it.
>>44498405
>and if that was a thing every jump in which you Are human would Give a human alt-form
Any jump in which you purchase a specific human form for CP should give you that as an alt form, yes. Do I need to be the jump maker to tell you that an ability or form that you purchase for CP and says nothing about you losing access to it is kept?
>>44498416
>Why is it considered a one off
Because nobody else has made a perk override a drawback within their own jumps before.
Which is odd, I'd expect at least one other instance of this happening considering the sheer amount of jumps.
>>44498442
>>44498439
Hang on, are you saying that every origin I've ever purchased gives me an Alternate-form?! oh this is going to be handy :-)
>>44498449
That's generally how alt-forms work, yes. Though it's safe to assume that it only applies to non-human forms.
>>44498449
You've been going all this time without knowing that? Well, this is your lucky day, then. Yes, every form you take as a result of an origin counts as a new alt-form.
>>44498440
I should probably clarify that the drawback forces you to pick 8 companions (or all of your companions, if you have less than eight) and forces them to stay active. Apologies for the unclear phrasing.
>>44498449
Only for nonhuman forms, unless specified otherwise.
>>44498446
Well, really there are a bunch that work in the same way. Drawbacks that give you an enemy, but say with effort and time you can get them to be a friend, for instance, since there are so many charisma perks. Or, say, the one in one of the MG jumps(Rising, I think?) that gives you the parasite, but doesn't stop you using telepathy. Or hell, on that note, Silenced in Pokemon if you take Psionics.
>>44498449
>Hang on, are you saying that every origin I've ever purchased gives me an Alternate-form
Down to fanwank whether every origin counts, but certainly any jump where you purchase a racial option or other form. Narnia, Forgotten Realms (ugh) and Redwall come to mind.
>>44498480
What if you don't have any companions?
>>44498480
See now I'm confused, because that was what I was assuming,I was excited by the possibility of all those different human forms.
>>44498510
Well, uh... You probably can't take that drawback, then.
Also, you must be one lonely motherfucker.
>>44498532
If you go ghost, and Possess an item, does the item count as part of your body Or are you just a ghost possessing it??
>>44498532
Wait a minute
>friends might fall back on old habits before they met you
>one of my main companions is Malefor
>another is a narcissistic self proclaimed master of the skies
>one is a horn dog who cares little for booze, battles, and booty
>another is a hesitant meek loser who has -15 self confidence
>every other companion is either a former villain or nasty mean person or a blank goddamn slate or an eldritch horror
>mfw I will probably have to fight/save every one of them 4 of them full capable of killing me
Drawbacks like this are my fatal weakness.
>>44498277
Use a soul to power it?
>>44498568
It becomes for all intents and purposes your body.
(see: Ghosts who fully possess their body die when the object is destroyed...RIP Dummy)
>>44498569
I'm not really sure what Mr Snippy would be like under that drawback.
I don't think ANYONE wants to find out.
>>44498568
Since you achieved corporeal form, I guess that counts as your body.
>>44498584
Oh crap,This has just become one of the harder choices I've had in a build, do I choose my gun,My Rollerhogg or my shield?
>>44498436
That's a bit more fatalistic then my reading. See, the drawback doesn't actually change the end condition, it just sets you up in a situation where you can't get to the end of the jump because time keeps resetting long before you get there, and since drawbacks go away at the end of the jump the reset will stop happening after you leave and time starts back up, so my "nuclear option" to solve this one if all other options were exhausted...was to act like some sort of "secret boss" and once combat starts filibuster for five straight years.
>>44498532
>Well, uh... You probably can't take that drawback, then.
Are you making this an official ruling for this jump? Because for most jump I'm pretty sure that if you wouldn't be affected by a drawback it's treated as free CP
>>44498436
>>44498616
Of course, the problem with both of these is that you have to know the drawback is in play and what it entails...
>>44498584
Would SAVE the World help manage the fused monster form of Welcome to my Special Hell? It was able to pull the Lost Souls out of the Absolute God of Hyperdeath, so I figure it should help at least a little. Not enough to undo the fusion, since drawbacks override perks, but enough to make it easier to remain coherent?
>>44498631
Yeah. No free CP.because then i can't feed on your tears
>>44498616
So your plan is tocopy Atlas Shrugged?
>>44498642
It didn't pull them out, just helped them remember who they are. That said, it'd probably help things, at least, and make it easier to reconcile who all of you are.
>>44498645
Now if you take the drawback where you and your companions are all fused and then lose it at the end of the jump would you get to keep that form, and if so would it gain you access to your companions abilities?
>>44498636
Man, if you're the kind of person who plays drawbacks like you don't know they're working, you're just straight fucked, aren't you? Instant game over.
>>44498657
Drawbacks end at the end of the jump so... No. You get the monster/whatever form you would have had if you hadn't taken that drawback.
As much as I'd like to keep answering questions, I do actually need sleep, so don't expect any more answers tonight. Ciao.
>>44497108
32. Undertale
Location: Snowdin
Origin: Drop-In, Race: Monster, Age: 18
Perks: Spare (-200), Megalovania (-300)
Magic: Bullet Patterns, Motion Magic Blue (-50), Motion Magic Orange (-50), Healing Magic (-100), Magnifying Magic (-300)
Items: Echo Flower Seeds (-100). Golden Flower Seeds (-200)
Drawbacks: The Taste is Indescribable (+100), Lost Souls (+200)
I have never played this game, and only know about it through reputation. The plan was to do a build, watch a Let's Play of it, and see how fucked I was. I rolled a d20 to see if I got the secret ending, since I don't have any urge to kill anything and making friends with everything sounded like a good and fun challenge.Nat 20.So, when I get around to making a story for this, what can I expect from the Asriel Dreemurr?
>>44498807
A bad time.
>>44498807
He's kind of a dick. He's been horribly mutated, stripped of his sense of empathy, and then looped through time over and over again. Makes him pretty nihilistic and unsympathetic to anyone. If you can undo all of that, though, restore his form, reawaken his empathy, and free him from the time loop...well, then he's just a scared, lonely kid. He'll feel really bad about the trouble he caused you, and do his best to make up for what he's done. Don't let him. He's a dumb kid, he'll think that hiding away from everyone is what he should do. Force him to interact with people again, be happy instead of sulking in his self-imposed exile.
>>44498819
Sounds about right. I only get good luck when something horrible is about to happen.
Wait so I'm confused, does that drawback require all the souls in the underground or does it require them all wishing Asriel to become himself again?
>>44498886
I think it's everyone wanting him back, combined with convincing Chara to let go and accept death instead of clinging to existence as a ghost.
>>44498853
That's... huh. That's definitely something I'd like to do, actually. And apparently what I have to do is convince this Chara entity that apparently lives in the Frisk-child to pass on his soul to the Asriel Dreemurr? While befriending everyone in the Underground?
This looks like a job for cuteness perks. I even still have 16 jumps to prepare after I finish light of terra.
>>44498139
>>44498123
>>44498164
>Companion Frisk
>Take JoJo jump
>Frisk gets a Stand
>GUESS WHO?
>>44499137
Well, it has to have a music name. So it would probably be Megalovania, even if the Stand was being controlled by Chara.
>>44498925
Elon, roughly how valuable would this be in Changeling terms?The entire Heterodyne Canon and several related artifacts from their adventures, sold directly from the head of one of the Heterodynes? What could you buy at a Goblin Market for that kind of metaphor-money?
If you Jumped Genius: the Transgression, made a huge splash in the world with scenarios, then went to Changeling and took the drawback that connects the jumps, would you have a Heterodyne canon of your own? Believe it or not, these questions are not related.
>>44499168
That actually fits with some of the theories i've read that says that Megalovania is more Chara's theme music then Sans.
>>44499380
Shit, can't believe I forgot my trip both times.
Where could I pick up some powers like Marvel's Sandman other than one piece? I know I can control sand with things like the one tail or earth bending but I want the whole package if possible.
>>44499510
Naruto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qw6BoKYw8
>>44499566
He uh, he acknowledged the One Tail in his post Bancho.
>>44499510
Or do you want to turn into stand? because this is in fact my final form gives you a form for fighting large groups of people, you could say it's a giant sand monster or something.
>>44499585
Yeah sorry I wasn't thinking, I've only Had three hours of sleep..
>>44499586
Already used that from for something else.
Anyone else know of something that would let me turn into and move around as sand?
>>44499510
>>44499611
Also primal rage lets you choose something from mythology and a appropriate kind of magic,So sand golem? Marvel's Sandman is much More powerful Then miscellaneous meta-would be able to provide, He is really on the level of a fantastic 4 villain.
So, was thinking up perks for Yakuza Jump. Anyone see an issue with this?
Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat and your other minions would still follow your orders and respect you.
>>44499611
You can be an earth elemental in forgotten realms, and technically an earth elemental can be made of dirt, stone, gems, or whatever other similar material, sand should be fine.
>>44499723
Yeah I that covers the Made of sand part But not the sand control.
>>44499717
Sounds like it'd make more sense as a rule-by-fear perk, because at the moment it sounds like instant stockholm syndrome, just add bat to the face
>>44497108
Huh. Nice work you guys!Are y'all collaborating on Mucha Lucha too, or is that just Digger?
Drawback: Harder Monsters (1200)
Rolled Snowdin
Scientist, Dog, Age 12 (1300)
Preserverence (Free)
Dimensional Device (1100)
Megalovania (500)
Core Blueprints (300)
Human companion: Elodie (0)
This. This is...extremely irregular. It is clear that the second most dangerous threat to reality is...ourself. If even monsters can potentially use Determination, then we risk supercharging the Fallen Child with a stray thought. There is only one solution-to seal our own power by-
-well, shit. It's bloody Nintendogs all over again, they'll never let us live this down.
Either way. We shall occupy ourself by learning to cook monster food, counter-trolling the Annoying Dog and studying the nature of the SOULas well as the time machine Gaster and Sans were apparently working on. Also practice looking too scary for others to pet.
There are two things we should accomplish in the interim: Sing the Soulhymn to let the Fallen Child pass on. And use our aeons of necrobotany to restore Flowy back to his original form with Soulfire. Once we have a catalyst to reunite Asgore and Tauriel, Phase 1 will be complete.
When Frisk arrives, it behooves us to remain a distant observer, observing his "battles" from a distance. Just this corgi of static and abyssal radiance strolling around inspiring a solemn sort of determination and whatnot.
We'll meet up with Asgore before he does, break through the barrier with our A+++ Anti-Thaumaturgy NP and allow him and Frisk to take the credit. Frisk having built up a solid rapport with the monsters, we can then spearhead an initiative to allow monsters to reintegrate with society. Tauriel gets to be a teacher, Sans gets to remain a lazybones-everyone gets their happy ending. Phase 2 will be complete.
And then. Our TRUE plan can begin.
>>44499717
>Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat and your other minions would still follow your orders and respect you.
There are several jumpers who would love that perk and it seems balanced
>>44499790
There doesn’t seem to be an afterlife for human SOULs in this worlds-they just lie there in the caves under the ground. And yet-even the lingering spirit of a child who committed suicide out of spite was able to potentially bring about the end of reality. If this world is anything like our own, imagine how many wars humankind has waged against itself. Imagine how many SOULs lie scattered across the world. Imagine how many of them will be caught in Bradeline’s Well with every second.
Worst of all, genocide will not solve this. That would simply engineer an entire species of Charas.
No. The answer lies in Dissidia, and in FF13-3: Spirit Purification, and the Savior’s Eradia manipulation.
By the end of the five years’ passage, hopefully the metaphysical gravity of the Well will have drawn the SOULs of the deceased. Using our newfound knowledge, we will fashion unbreakable containers for DETERMINATION, and then /carefully/ use the Spirit Purification technique to extract that energy from all deceased humans in the world to be stored in our Warehouse. We shall then use Eradia to experiment upon the deceased SOULs to develop a maginanotech means for permanently reducing DETERMINATION in the living.
Then, we shall use our position as a totally innocuous diplomat to reduce human DETERMINATION through ostensibly innocent visits to the water supply. And the agricultural sectors. And the new eco-friendly geothermal plant we'll be offering to sponsor and build.
In short, our victory condition is to delete the concept of SAVE states altogether.
>>44499510
Have you tried the following perk combination from the Marvel jump?
Mind+Body+Kinesis(Sand)+Shapeshifiting
>>44499780
See, I don't get this. People in IRC said the same thing, but it's still limited amounts of loyalty. If you actually kill the guy your pummeling, well then that's it, your fucked.
>>44499790
>Counter-trolling Annoying Dog
No, he/she/it is simply to good at it for you to prevail Anti-Spiral!
>>44499846
Don't think that would work to the degree it needs to for what they want,Kinesis From Marvel gets weaker the more common the thing is, and sand is pretty damn common.
>>44499847
>See, I don't get this. People in IRC said the same thing, but it's still limited amounts of loyalty. If you actually kill the guy your pummeling, well then that's it, your fucked.
Well, see, maybe you should have mentioned that, rather than just saying "everyone is so loyal you could inflict massive damage on a subordinate and everyone else would still do what you want and think you're great."
>>44499803
>>
By the end of the five years’ passage, hopefully the metaphysical gravity of the Well will have drawn the SOULs of the deceased. Using our newfound knowledge, we will fashion unbreakable containers for DETERMINATION, and then /carefully/ use the Spirit Purification technique to extract that energy from all deceased humans in the world to be stored in our Warehouse. We shall then use Eradia to experiment upon the deceased SOULs to develop a maginanotech means for permanently reducing DETERMINATION in the living.
Then, we shall use our position as a totally innocuous diplomat to reduce human DETERMINATION through ostensibly innocent visits to the water supply. And the agricultural sectors. And the new eco-friendly geothermal plant we'll be offering to sponsor and build.
It's posts like this that make me wish you had a trip code so I could filter you.
>>44499803
Doesn't the Well not gather souls, just let you access the place where unclaimed souls go? That would be kind of useless in a world where souls just linger around in the same plane as they originated in. Did you make modifications to it over the years?
>>44499847
Ah, maybe make that clearer in the fluff? Provide examples of what kinda crap your made men/soldiers/assorted minions will refuse to take before abandoning ship/busting a cap in your ass?
And hey-not disputing that, but it's a way to kill time. Gotta find more data to feed that Path to Victory more data somehow, y'know?
>>44499860
It seemed like it would at least cover the 'human that can turn into an entity of living sand that manipulates sand'. Even if on a smaller scale.
>>44499922
I think you'd be barely cohesive though.
>>44499889
What, don't like seeing a mirror to your own violations of people's agency "for the greater good?"
>>44499803
I think it would be easier to instead just empower one entity to possess huge amounts of DETERMINATION and have it never use it. Only one person can control the SAVE slot at a time, so if you gave DETERMINATION to something with no will to alter the timeline it would be locked out without having to go through the trouble of performing soul-surgery on the entire human species.
>>44499723
I've used that too unfortunately.
>>44499846
A good idea, but my Marvel cp went towards me shapeshifting into adamantium.
I suppose I should say that I do have some seriously good earth bending so I'm fine on the controlling sand front, I just want a way to turn into it and move around.
>>44499876
Now, that isn't what the perk says. It says that if you hit someone with a bat a couple times, your minions will still loyally follow your orders and respect you.
>>44499929
I generally don't violate people's agency though, I'm all about expanding agency. Brush God of revolution,Horsemen of choice remember?
>>44499935
Yeah but it doesn't say the limits, and that can kill them depending on How weak they are.
>>44499948
I don't think you understand what brush gods are.
I also think you have forgotten your own plans if you think you don't impede agency.
>>44499905
Truth be told-we did, in FF13-3, devise a great working of Lumen Sage magic and focused Eradia and good ol' DF-style thaumaturgy to set up a bigass magic circle in the Well girded by arcane speakers to play a cover of the Soulsong we modified for preservation instead of annihilation for a separate apocalypse contingency. It's still there, and we do tweak it everynow and then.
It's quite similar to this case, actually-we weren't sure if the passage of souls into Chaos in FF13-3 counted as a separate afterlife or not. As we understand from stuff Babs mentioned a while ago, the Well draws in souls that don't have a claim from a proper afterlife, so we figured the ones lingering around would eventually sort of drift into the Well after a long time?
Either way-we do have that as a contingency amongst other things like the Double Deity. Undertale SOULs seem unique enough that we'll have to play it by ear, expect the worst and be prepared for the best.
>>44499961
>I also think you have forgotten your own plans if you think you don't impede agency.
The ultimate liberty zone? how would that impede people's choices?
>>44499948
>I generally don't violate people's agency though, I'm all about expanding agency.
Yet your somehow okay with a power that removes the agency of almost everyone else in that reality.
What agency do you have when at any moment someone could decide that everything you did within a certain time period(along with everyone and everything else) never happened, or decide to kill you and torture you over and over again for fun, or anything related to making it so that your actions only matter if they let them matter?
>>44499932
See...that's the trouble right there. We're. Firstly, we're not sure if there's any one candidate in the world we'd fully trust with that sort of responsibility apart from Frisk. Secondly, it seems that since the power of SAVE states are posessed by the most DETERMINED human at any given time, couldn't it default to someone more violent when Frisk dies?
Now, we could make Frisk immortal-but that raises a whole bunch of other issues. What if Frisk pulls a Qilby/Flowy after centuries of immortal lifespan? Even if he's a legitimitely good person, someone with all that DETERMINATION would surely gain /some/ ambitions after a while.
>>44499989
>What agency do you have when at any moment someone could decide that everything you did within a certain time period(along with everyone and everything else) never happened, or decide to kill you and torture you over and over again for fun, or anything related to making it so that your actions only matter if they let them matter?
What the hell are you talking about?
>>44499935
There's some slight paraphrasing, but it's all there.
everyone is so loyal
>Your men are extremely loyal
you could inflict massive damage on a subordinate
>You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat
and everyone else would still do what you want
>your other minions would still follow your orders
and think you're great.
>and respect you.
Admittedly, "everyone" might be a bit too shortened; "everyone that works for you" was the intended implication of "loyal" there.
>>44499948
>I generally don't violate people's agency though
Bancho, you are all about coming into settings and using your powers to force everyone to do what you think they should want to do. Usually with little to no thought of consequences.
>>44500003
You're thinking about this the wrong way. You don't just trust someone to use the power wisely, you create something that can't not use the power wisely and give it to them. Are you honestly telling me you can't design a psyche such that it channels DETERMINATION into a determination to not let the timeline be changed, and that can't become corrupted? I think you've got a good enough knowledge of psychodesign by now to do that.
>>44500006
That's what the power you are complaining about ASA removing does.
>>44500006
In Undertale Saving and Loading is an in setting power caused by DETERMINATION that one person gets.
A.k.a. this is a power that lets one random person reset time whenever they want even if they get killed.
>>44500027
Mainly in Humanitarian aid/Bringing equality Ways though. These folks don't have alternatives and I'm giving them choices they would not have had I not Intervened.
>>44500050
>>44500054
Yes but it's also a power that lets you keep trying until you get things right, It lets you get at second Chance if you've done something That would otherwise be irreversible and redeemable. its a Tool,Neither good or evil. ASA Is just being a whiny baby about The power of hot blood and Spoiling everyone's Good time by trying to basically be TASE
>>44500036
...y'know? That is a good question. Truth be told, when you put it that way several ideas do spring to mind-Diver Alchemy to create birth a being from our own mind. App Master to synthesise a virtual lifeform of some sort, with certain EVO perks to ensure loyalty. Just building a sentient sink for DETERMINATION with Anartist, equip it with a copy of our own personality a la the Matrix and burying it under thick lead or something.
It's an intriguing idea at the least, and we will take it under consideration given we'll be leaving behind the usual artificial moon to oversee the world anyway.
Our main concern is...well. You know when Simon snapped Nia out of her Anti-Spiralness with words alone? Well, if the Asriel Dremurr battle is any indication-0.000001% is just as good as 100% to any sufficiently DETERMINED human.
We could engineer it to be utterly solipsistic and lack senses of any kind and be unable to communicate with anything else, but a degree of sapience is needed to experience DETERMINATION so-we're just worried about margins for error, however small. We're looking for a long term solution here, and this is the kind of force you don't take half measures against y'know?
>>44499948
True, i didn't give exact limits.
This any better?
Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat and your other minions would still follow your orders and respect you. Do note though, that this has it's limits. If you actually kill them, then all bets are off.
>>44500082
>and I'm giving them choices they would not have had I not Intervened.
Candlesticks aren't much of a choice. Do you ever accept anyone's choice to boot you the fuck out of their world?
>Yes but it's also a power that lets you keep trying until you get things right, It lets you get at second Chance if you've done something That would otherwise be irreversible and redeemable. its a Tool
A tool that one single person gets access to, that by its very nature works by trivialising the agency of everyone else. Every time it is used, it is essentially killing everyone else in the world, removing their experiences, reactions and choices.
>>44500131
No one gets candlestick'd In the ultimate liberty zone,People cannot be candlestick'd in the ultimate liberty zone that's part of the point of the ultimate liberty zone!
So like Almost any Change made Via time travel ever. No, what he should be doing is trying to get everyone access to that tool, we know You can replicated because the Funny and nice skeleton with the cute brother has it In addition to the weirdly Untalkative Androgynous kid with the disturbingly age inappropriate behavior.
>>44500126
I think permanent injury would be a better benchmark, because as worded this would technically let you flay people alive, rub bot flie maggots into their naked flesh and stitch them into a human centipeded and they'd still be "loyal" to you so long as you don't kill them.
Couple hard knocks or a smack to the face=OK, maybe even broken arms if the disobedience is serious or the victim's unpopular, as long as you also pay for their slings or reset their arms promptly afterwords Venom Snake-style.
>>44500082
It's also a power that let's you undo everyone's accomplishments until they only know failure and lossOr until you decide to kill everyone to see what would happen and end up having to sell your soul to a ghost child turned eldritch horror to get it to restore the world. At which point your stuck at horrible outcomes..
Remember getting the best outcome doesn't remove the chance of it being used, and once you use it get the best outcome the negatives are all that's left.
Also how did everyone have a good time if the good time never happened for most people?
Also consider this. Let's say someone had the power to SAVE and was capable of waiting long term.
Now let's say they gained it before your parents were born, and decide to threaten to Load from the beginning of you do not do absolutely everything they tell you do, thus erasing you from existence.
Would your agency be anything more than an illusion?
>>44500194
Oh for fuck's sake-why are you defending the ultimate liberty zone?
The ultimate liberty zone is bad, and you should feel bad about it.
Also, you simply do not have the capability to pull it off.
Don't make me go and link the archived threads where people very, very carefully explained the above to you ad nauseum.
>>44500217
Again time travel,You'll notice he's removing the source of the power and not The power Itself. ASA is being a Whiny baby trying to copycat And even More whiny baby,Also remember that this has been a fixture of this universe for Forever, how the hell did people cope with it so far? Why doesn't Fisk just reload from before They fell into the hole? There's no reason to permanently decrease everyone in the world's willpower forever
>>44500199
Alright, this should be good, shouldn't it?
Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat and your other minions would still follow your orders and respect you. Do note though, that this has it's limits. If you actually kill them, or do any other sort of similarly reprehensible act to them, then all bets are off.
>>44500194
>No, what he should be doing is trying to get everyone access to that tool
And how would that work.
>>44500259
And I'm not trying to pull it off anymore, I'm just saying If it did exist people Would it not get candlestick'd There.
>>44500265
I don't know! but it's generally what I try to do with these things.
>>44500265
It wouldn't.
This is a recurring flaw in every single plan Bancho has ever come up with, which he can only address by blatently ignoring how things actually work in canon
>>44500194
The difference being that in most cases the time traveler is not immune to the consequences of the changes, and can't just go 'Doesn't count' whenever they screw up.
In the settings where the time travelers are immune their effectively the only entities with true free will.
>>44500290
>it's generally what I try to do with these things
Well since your plans are universally reviled, incompetant and terrible, it sounds like ASA is a true champion of justice, the hero of man and a real human being.
>>44500306
>checks the build again
Well, corgi in this case. Close enough.
>>44500262
Frankly, it's sparse as shit. Fully half of the description of what the perk actually does is tacked on exceptions after people pointed out how ridiculously vague and unlimited it was. How about just writing a perk description that conveys what the perk actually does?
>>44500290
>I don't know!
Exactly.
>>44500292
And I'm not trying to,I'm just going to try and get the people who do on the side of good.
>>44500299
No see the thing about choice is that choices can be limited but they Almost never are absent even stuck in a block of concrete with nothing to do but drowned you can choose what you think about with your final moments.
>>44500306
Ad hominem fallacy right there
>>44500323
That's why I don't Plan on trying
>>44500261
>You'll notice he's removing the source of the power and not The power Itself.
Well how else would you remove a power that's only details are 'this thing called DETERMINATION' let's you do it?
>how the hell did people cope with it so far?
Considering the outcome of the genocide route probably luck.
>There's no reason to permanently decrease everyone in the world's willpower forever
The fact that monsters lack determination either implies only humans have will power, or that it's not will power.
Considering all of the other stuff with questionably accurate names, the later seems more likely.
>>44500334
>you can choose what you think about with your final moments.
Actually, you almost certainly can't. Panic, adrenaline, all that shit.
>Ad hominem fallacy right there
... Really, Bancho? Really? How so?
>>44500346
I wouldn't put it past Bancho to assume LOVE can be recharged with hugs and kisses or EXP to be able to be gained from things not related to killing shit though, given what he's approved of doing in the past
>>44500334
You do realise bitching at other Jumpers is one of many things that lowers your estimation in the threads, right?
Well. Looks like Bancho's Blasphemous Blunders got an early release on the new year. And he hasn't even technically committed any Blasphemous Blunders either. Just meta ones, but Meta Blunders sounds less catchy.
Either way. For the sake of having something happier to talk about today, Sans can dodge through turns in his boss fight, right? Now, obviously fighting him is a bad idea but just curious-how would that actually look to you fighting him? Would it be like a time stop or some shit?
>>44500346
>Well how else would you remove a power that's only details are 'this thing called DETERMINATION' let's you do it?
It's in all capitals,It probably has nothing to do with actual determination. love in all capitals is Level Of ViolencE,Does that have anything to do with love?
>>44500354
You think He's okay because I'm worse.
>>44500370
I get mad when people are Dicks,Pretty sure that's normal. This is a game of ludicrous power fantasy, his ludicrous power fantasy is to be one of the biggest possible Dicks.
And I stopped caring what anons Think before this was even a thing.
>>44500394
>I stopped caring what anons think before this was even a think
That's fair enough, just don't ever expect anyone to agree with you on anything ever with that attitude.
>you think he's okay because you're worse
Well...yes? I mean. You're literally easily the worst thing still lurking around in these threads. That's not a big accomplishment.
>>44500394
So your worried will power will be removed instead of this probably completely unrelated thing ASA said their going to try removing?
>>44500394
>I stopped caring
Newsflash: You're not well liked, and your opinions are distrusted above all else. I'd have thought you'd hvae learned this ages ago.
>>44500424
Tsundere anon wouldn't want you talking about his husbando Bancho like that anon
>>44499510
Changeling Elemental Contracts have you covered. Just take Contract of the Elements (Sand) 5•.
>>44500262
I'd consider beating them up reprehensible, but that might just be me.
Also, 'a' mook not 'an' mook.
>>44500438
It's all good, everyone's waifus are shitbut some waifus are more shit than others
>>44500425
I think Bancho has an allergy to basic logic.
>>44499510
Endless Legend. Go full Ardent, tweak the tech a little-and get ready to get Dust-y.
>>44500425
Isn't that what he was trying to do? If so I must apologize to everyone for this ruckus.
>>44500437
well yeah,You think I don't know that? You people have tried to murder me.
>>44500464
You don't have have to tell me anon, he dumped the fortress of arrogance for bancho.
>>44500464
Would Dust actually be able to do that? I'd love it if I could use it like that, I have a big soft spot for Dust.
Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. Taking some tips from the famous and charismatic Goro Majima, you've raised the loyalty of your minions enough that you could hit a mook with a bat, and they would still loyally follow your orders and respect you. This has its limits though; If you kill them or commit another similarly reprehensible act on them, then all bets are off.
>>44500460
Well, beating them up is bad, but on the same level killing them, or, as that one Anon suggested, turning them into a human centipede?
>>44500468
>>44500476
I refuse to believe that Anti-Fortress-Kun and Fortress-Chan's love could be ruined by this shithead, the power of shounen plot will triumph just as surely as the next generation of waifus will be shit
>>44500489
I...I think? I mean, I'm not all familiar with Endless Legend stuff, but since those Broken Lord guys are basically made of Dust and since it behaves like regular dust in some of the perks I think you could pull it off with other nanotech perks? Not gona lie, kinda out of my depth here
>>44500468
Don't bother, we'll be waiting to shit on you when next you do something terrible.
It must hurt for you to know people will always take ASA's word over yours no matter how much you whine about him.
>>44500508
>It must hurt for you to know people will always take ASA's word over yours no matter how much you whine about him.
Hey he knows his shit, I never said you should take my word over his on a matter of planning.
I just think he's a genuinely awful person who should be looked down upon otherwise.
>>44500508
>Dust
Good point. Guess I'll look into that if I don't find some way to turn into normal sand. Thanks.
>>44500521
Oh no, he's a much better person than you.
>>44500508
He even pretended to be working on a jump and said he would cancel it and was pretending to be other anons so anons would stop talking about it.
>>44500533
He is literally the anti-spiral.
>>44500535
I wasn't pretending,Here's the WIP
>>44500535
Or did you mean this one? Again WIP
>>44500560
>>44500582
Not you bancho I was talking about tsundere anon you were decent that thread
>>44500560
>>44500582
>that formatting
>that second one that is clearly your magical realm
Yeah, no. I for one am glad you never finished either of those.
And yes, you are literally despised that much.
>>44500468
The post with ASA's plan to remove it has DETERMINATION written in all caps.
>>44500394
Frankly Bancho as someone who has been in the IRC frequently the Names think the same of you. It's just not worth putting a name on to talk to you because you're just a retard who ruins everything he touches. Why do you think you got banned from IRC and nobody raised a fuss?
>>44500598
Hey I'm working with cheap tools that don't have instructions to how to format nicely and the other one is not a Lewd jump,Or original content.
>>44500603
Again I'm running on three hours of sleep.
>>44500614
You think I want to be here either? I'd love to be able to quit this game!
>>44500616
If your tired enough that you can use that excuse legitimately. You probably shouldn't be using a computer.
>>44500614
Truly the wretchedness of Bancho brings us all closer, whether namefriend or anon. It's like that one dysfunctional family who rallies together against the creepy uncle.
>>44500616
Go the fuck to sleep then, you won't be missed.
>>44500636
Close the tab.
Get another hobby; go grind your character on Fallen London or something.
Accept that you'll never achieve anything meaningful in Jumpchain apart from getting shit on by all comers.
It's really that simple.
>>44500636
Then go do some stupid shit to get a ban and then clearly evade the ban. Congrats, you're permabanned from 4chan and everyone will be happier with your passing. Maybe put up a thread advocating genociding one of the many nations you have no understanding of.
>>44500582
>600 CP perk
>"u da bess at science 4ever!!!!!"
I'm glad you never finished this.
>>44500646
I've tried I've tried all of those things they don't work.
>>44500666
It's a wip, Balancing gets done after everything else And the science in the world is ridiculous.
>>44500675
Wow, it really says something about your jump design principles that you consider balance something to slap on at the end.
>>44500675
Go talk to whoever's responsible for wiping your autistic retard ass in real life, have them shut off your internet access.
And gievn your track record with other stuff, I'd be surprised if you could articulate it any better.
>>44500712
That would be me, I live independently.
>>44500636
>>44500675
If you wanted to leave you would have done so. You're not magically compelled to be here. Stop using 'I want to leave but can't' as an excuse, it doesn't mean anything.
>>44500743
Dude I'm saying I'm literally addicted.
>>44500750
We know what you're saying but what you say rarely means very much and it's a total cop out.
Leave or don't, if you don't it's because you don't want to but please spare us the melodrama.
>>44500750
Seriously, just do one of the various things to get banned permanently. If you search the internet you can find plenty, and it solves your problem and ours quite elegantly.
>>44500838
I still want to use the rest of The site though
So any news on that new Animal Crossing Jump that was mentioned in the IRC the other day?
Are there any other jumps with items where you could pick up corporations like in DC and Resident Evil? I want to have a megacorp that follows me around without having to go through the trouble of making them over and over.
>>44501124
Apparently made by the two who made the FTL Jump and is undergoing edits+Happy Home Designer stuffs since they never intended for it to be used by others after being advised it'd be a shitstorm.
>>44501216
I think Gargoyles may have one?
>>44501124
what do you mean New animal crossing jump? we already have an animal crossing jump! I know, I made it!
>>44501216
Sherlock Holmes, sort of? How d'you feel about criminal empires?
I think 9-5 has some smaller scale franchises too
>>44501277
And its completely shit.
>>44501291
So are a lot of other jumps,I'm saying there are rules to this sort of thing
>>44501227
Yeah that perk tree would come in handy, thanks!
>>44501279
Thanks! Now I have a shadowy empire that can be used a staging ground to control crime.
>>44501296
Are you really that surprised you've alienated, ostracized and antagonised everyone to the point where they'd make an exception for you?
>>44501296
Yeah, but no one likes you so while at least one of the two was hesitant about giving out their jump hopefully we'll start to see your trash replaced.
>>44501313
This is a slippery slope, yes I know That is a fallacy but you just watch
>>44501328
Well, if it's a slope that ends with you sliding right off the internet?
Worth it.
And before you get any conspiracy theories-I'm not even in the IRC at the moment. I'm just sick of watching you eat up posts with your self-pitying bullshit.
>>44501326
But I like the Animal crossing jump.Even if everything is too expensive
>>44501326
>>44501358
It's like this , either the rules apply to everyone or they're not really rules,People Let the PDF
Hellblazer jump on the drive And that's a lot worse than anything I ever made and probably an intentional Troll.
>>44501374
Thank you, sorry about that things are supposed to be expensive since it's so restful,It's really a leftover from when it was based on 100 points and I was trying to formalize vacation jumps.
>>44501374
I don't know what's happening, but maybe it'll end up like the Metapocalypse jumps?
>>44501430
>Hellblazer
...the one thing that I despise more than your work is still on the drive?
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WHY HAVEN'T WE KICKED THAT SHIT OFF.
>>44501449
I don't know either!
>>44501439
The Metapocalypse jumps Are a result of two anons Developing And deploying the same idea simultaneously Without realizing it ,completely different situation.
>>44501439
From what was mentioned the other day, there are three perk paths - shopkeeper, civil servant, and villager and there being HHD stuff added before they showed it to anyone who asked in the IRC for it. That's about all we know as of yet.
Considering the people making it, it'll probably be very companion friendly though.
>>44501313
>>44501326
Out of curiosity are Mib's jumps replaceable now since a lot them are worse than some of Tera's, or is the rule going to be 'No replacements unless you annoy the entire thread' now?
>>44501449
For reference of how bad that jump is the writer used an entirely different name for the origin and the 'discounted for perks'.
Which means getting the discounts the origin is probably supposed to have might count as fanwank
>>44501511
I suspect the latter, all things considered. The former smacks a bit of speaking ill of the dead, or something along those lines. And practically speaking at least one of his jumps-I think it was Bleach?-is still ongoing and nonsensical. Unless it was someone else who was working on Bleach, and I'm confused.
Either way. Doesn't seem worth the hassle, to my mind; I personally prefer mib's staleness to Tera's overall wretchedness
I just can't get over the mandatory companion death. Every. Fucking. Time.
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>>44500394
>You think He's okay because I'm worse.
Yes, and? That doesn't make it an ad hominem fallacy, that's just the magic of context. Compared to a candle, fireplaces are hot. Compared to a nuclear reactor undergoing a meltdown, fireplaces are cold.
Compared to you, ASA is a beacon of sane, tasteful restraint and comforting stability.
