Post anything on these spikey creeps
>>44468067
I have a few. Most are on my other computer, which isn't up and running right now.
>>44468067
I sometimes wonder what a haemonculus would do if he captured a space marine or custode.
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>>44468199
That's a CWE though, Maugen Ra or however you spell that bullshit.
>>44468578
>>44468574
They've probably been captured a thousand times over, during the past ten millennia.
>>44468597
>>44468574
They have done that before, they usually turn them into grotesques.
>>44468617
>>44468574
There's a piece of fluff somewhere where a haemonculus has a Space Marine strapped down on the table. He just vivisects him like everything else, taking note of all the interesting extra bone structures and organs.
>>44468643
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>>44468737
Mercenaries, I figure.
>>44468775
Usually they get really happy with space marine captives as space marines can take their worst techniques and keep on going. Though yeah they'll turn them into grotesques a lot of the time too but usually they just make disobedient wracks into grotesques
>>44468798
A little on the cutesy side, but it checks out.
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>>44468977
These lean more on the Craftworld end, but they feel like fallen Craftworlders to me.
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>>44468775
What kind of lunatic would voluntarily interact with DEldar?
>>44468775
>You want what?!
>Final offer, take it or leave it.
>...Fine, I'll go get my daughter
>>44469066
>>44469070
People who probably don't know what they're dealing with.
I figure there are probably some Dark Eldar mercenaries that keep to their contract, if nothing else so that they can keep getting work.
>>44469121
Oh, IIRC, it's mentioned in one of the Mechanicus codexes that there are Tech Priests on Terra that have apparently been working with Haemunculi for some unknown reason (theorized as something to do with the Emperor or the Golden Throne).
FUCK CAPTCHA
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>>44469159
It would actually be hilarious if the DEldar of all people end up saving the Empra.
>>44468067
I had the idea of making a coven with the Wracks and Grotesques themed after the marionettes and scarecrows from DMC. Too bad 40k sucks now.
>>44469202
It's actually kinda funny. The Dark Eldar are one of the most reasonable factions in the setting, besides the rampant torture and murder.
Plenty of them might actually get along with the Imperium, if they let them have their fun with slaves.
>>44469070
The majority of humans don't really know the difference between Eldar and Dark Eldar. They just see them all as mercurial raiders and pirates, who sometimes make themselves available for mercenary work.
>>44469186
MOTHERFUCKER, I am tired of this "requires multiple attempts" nonsense.
>>44469202
Yeah, hell, the Dark Eldar are probably have the most advanced knowledge in biology in the galaxy. If anyone can fix the Emperor, it's them (for a price, of course).
Do the Dark Eldar have friends and such? Do they just go about their day torturing people to death and then head down to the pub to have a couple of drinks with their mates? Or is their society just one giant dysfunctional paranoia fest?
>>44469202
It's in their best interest though.
If the Emperor dies, I don't think they can do anything to save their souls from supercharged Slaanesh.
>>44469070
Pirates, raiders, RT, Inquisitors,...
Pretty much everyone who knows how they work and makes sure that killing him would be more trouble to the DE than cooperating.
>>44469299
Docks.
>>44469299
The price of not getting their souls devoured by Slaanesh in the wake of Chaos' total victory following the death of the Empra seems pretty fair.
>>44469319
>>44469311
>>44469337
Fair points. I'm sure there are a number of Dark Eldar that see the logic in the situation. They hate Chaos as much as any of the other factions, really.
>>44469311
I suppose ignorance is bliss here, to some extend. Most of the people who hire them won't be aware just how insanely depraved and dangerous they are.
>>44469310
>Do the Dark Eldar have friends and such?
Yes, though considering that they are an alien species with a racial mindset that appears completely insane to most rational people, their understanding of "friendship" probably differs quite radically to how we see it. For example, Dark Eldar do have a concept of love, but they experience it as a maddening, obsessive need to possess an individual for themselves.
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>>44469440
Why are their haircuts always so hideous?
>>44469440
I don't believe the dark eyes are canon, but I like to think that they are.
Although, hell, I'm sure there are plenty of Dark Eldar with different kinds of eyes, what with Haemonculus science.
>>44469311
In the RT game I run the players have had multiple run ins with th DE, both hostile and "friendly". I tend to characterize them as "reliable traitors", ie. they will stab you in the back the moment it is more advantageous for them, but not a moment sooner, so if you can ensure that they'll get more from working with you than from trying to kill you they make fine mercenaries (basically you pay them to do their thing on somebody you don't like and not on you).
Last session the players did end up accepting the help of a DE Archon with the price of having to assist her in the future (or be hunted down and have their hearts removed and eaten while they're still alive), and I do intent to make them regret that decision somehow, though.
>>44469469
>>44469467
Not always.
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>>44469478
>You may now assist me by warding off the horrible forces of She Who Thirsts for yet another day. Your sacrifice is appreciated!
>>44469469
IIRC the previous DE codex did mention them having dark eeys due to the pupils being enlarged to better see in the twilight of Commorragh, and a lot (but not all) of artwork shows them with such eyes. CWE are occasionally also descipted with black eyes as well, though.
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>>44469522
>IIRC the previous DE codex did mention them having dark eeys due to the pupils being enlarged to better see in the twilight of Commorragh
Oh, damn, that's actually a really interesting justification for it.
It's hard to tell, though, because most of the canon artwork of Dark Eldar aren't close-ups of their face, and when they are, they (and Craftworlders) seem to be rather human-like. That could just be the case of artistic license or artists not being properly directed, though.
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>>44469516
The PCs have proven themselves t be more useful than just that, though (it's not like an Archon would be lacking in slaves), plus that would rob me the opportunity of making them interact with the DE in a "civil" situation on their own turf (so far they've only fought against some raiders and delt with a few DE mercenaries), which I think could be a funny idea. Another thing about how I descipt the DE is that they're absolutely vile and monstrous people despite maintainign an aura of grace and civility, and that a lot of the horrible stuff they do doesn't even register to them as anything but perfectly mundane (like the Archon wouldn't even think that maybe the humans might object to her having a dozen slaves flayed alive while she dines with them).
I'll probably just have them run though the Soul Reaver adventure, modified somewhat since I've ran it once in a Black Crusade game and found it to not be that good (too railroady, with the forced capture part and the rather annoying arena sequnce). Based on how difficult some of the parts ended up being for the BC group, I'm sure the player will curse accepting the deal before it's over.
>>44469581
The Dark Eldar saving Iyanden has got to be one of the coolest moments in 40K.Though this doesn't look like Iyanden.
why are Incubi so cool?
>>44469726
>>44469761
forgot image
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>>44469761
Because they have kick-ass designs, have cool lore, and follow a strange fucked-up form of bushido, kinda.
Also, klaives are like bat'lethsif bat'leths weren't super dumb.
>>44469744
>like the Archon wouldn't even think that maybe the humans might object to her having a dozen slaves flayed alive while she dines with them
And if the Mon'keigh are smart they won't do anything of the sort. Insulting DEldar culture to their faces whilst enjoying the best hospitality you could possibly hope for seems like overstepping your bounds to me...
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>>44469748
Could be Valedor, but I don't think any Haemonculus covens were there.
>>44469825
Comically oversized Space Wolf.
Also, Captcha seems to have an obsession with street signs tonight.
>>44469872
Ancient enemies.
If I can stroke my ego here for a moment, my kabal is fluffed to primarily targeting Chaos and Necron forces (they attack others as well for sport or preparation, but those two are their primary targets) due to them being strongly dedicated to the old empire's history.
>>44469748
It's a scene from one of the stories in the Haemonculus Covens supplement. Saim-hann is fighting to protect a Maiden World from Hive Fleet Leviathan; the Haemonculi step in, aiding the Craftworlders long enough for Urien and his minions to orchestrate events so that the entire planet is yanked into the Webway, appearing in a pocket-dimension above Commoragh.
They wanted a safe, stable environment upon which they could breed generations of Tyranids to experiment upon and sell to the Wych Cults, you see. To hell with the people who were actually living on it.
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>>44469910
That's so deliciously ridiculous and cruel. My personal favorite story is the one where Vect, to destroy a rival rising Dark Eldar empire, directs an Imperial ship to crash and detonate into the core city, which then leads to it breaching into the Warp and have daemons pour into the realm, and sealing it off.
It's just so over-the-top, I loved it.
>>44469748
This always struck me as the most tsundere thing in 40K.
>I-it's not like we wanted to save you or anything! We just like your wraith constructs. Baka!
>>44469962
>>44469972
The Craftworlder/Commorite relationship feels like a, "No one beats up my brother except me!" kinda thing, to me.
Alright anyone want to put out their own homebrewed dark eldar kabal? I'll go first if no one else wants to.
>>44469994
Because, as much as they may look down upon or outright despise each others' cultures, they are, at the end of the day, Eldar.
>>44469962
>That's so deliciously ridiculous and cruel.
The Covens book is full of this sort of thing. You can argue that there's a sort of tragedy to the Dark Eldar, that most of them have been born with a condition that requires them to do monstrous things and into a society that will tear them apart for the perceived 'weakness' of not doing so. There's a nice line from Phil Kelly, in one of the videos he and Jes Goodwin made when the Dark Eldar got their big revamp in 5th edition, where he says that he imagines a lot of Dark Eldar sometimes find themselves thinking "is this all worth it?", quietly despairing at their situation.
But there's none of that with the Haemonculi. They're completely, utterly, 100% supervillain-tier evil. They're hilariously, intentionally over the top, constantly pushing to explore new levels of depravity simply because they can, and because they're bored. It's a great read, and sort of a shame that the models don't come with silly, twiddly little baddie mustaches because they totally deserve them.
>>44470039
Go for it.
>>44470042
I figured the DEldar/Eldar vs the rest thing was kinda like you're forced to either team up with a cousin you really hate, or with a group of rabid baboons. As much as you may dislike your cousin, at least he's still a person and not some filthy animal.
>>44469962
Stuff like that is pretty much why I love DE. they revel in being ridiculously over the top and evil. They're pretty much saturday morning cartoon villains except with 500% more horrifying torture and mutilation. Half the time their motivations can be summed up with "I thought it was funny".
One of my favourites is some fluff where a particularly vain archon releases a mutagenic virus into the atmosphere of some planet that causes the face of every living creature on the planet to morph into his likeness. Why? Because he could, and since he's obviously the bets looking being the galaxy making everything look like him is clearly an improvement.
What rules are in the Coven book? Just formations?
>>44470042
Also, if anyone has the picture of the female kabalite warrior in a forest playing a flute (black and white, I believe), I'd be very grateful. It's my favorite Dark Eldar fan art picture.
>>44470093
>There's a nice line from Phil Kelly, in one of the videos he and Jes Goodwin made when the Dark Eldar got their big revamp in 5th edition, where he says that he imagines a lot of Dark Eldar sometimes find themselves thinking "is this all worth it?", quietly despairing at their situation.
Which is one thing I really like about the Dark Eldar, is that there's a lot more to them than simply being "the edge" faction. Are they all terrible people? Absolutely, but there's variety in what they do, and there is even some among them that realize how shit their situation really is.
>They're hilariously, intentionally over the top, constantly pushing to explore new levels of depravity simply because they can, and because they're bored. It's a great read, and sort of a shame that the models don't come with silly, twiddly little baddie mustaches because they totally deserve them.
>>44470152
And that's another thing I like about the Dark Eldar: as "edgy" as they can be, they're also probably the main faction in 40k that still has that comical, tongue-in-cheek thing going on. A lot of factions seem to be dropping that (the Militarum Tempestus codex was EXTREMELY bad about that; it was all ridiculous grimdark, and written in a way that made it seem like you're supposed to take it seriously).
>>44470093
>sort of a shame that the models don't come with silly, twiddly little baddie mustaches because they totally deserve them
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>>44470152
That's some Joker-level shit.
>>44470210
This one has some nice perspective.
>>44470039
Actually, I need help fluffing a Kabal I rolled up a while ago.
I've got a name and all the results. That's it.
>Kabal of the Darklight Palace
>Kabal Age
9- 5000+ years
>Current Archon
8- Haemonculus
>Archon Personality
6- Ambitious
2- Calculating
>Kabal Motivation
10- Pirates
>Kabal Demeanour
4- See, But Don't Be Seen - Sneaky and undetectable right until the point where they leap out and feed you your own testicles to laugh at your gurgling.
>Kabal Flaw
5- Kabal Cult
>Territory Location
1- High Class District
>Territory Condition
11- Crystalline and 16- Shadowed, far away from any stolen suns.
>Kabal Tactics
6- Terror
>Kabal Resource
74- Real Space Fleet
>Kabal Signature Weapons
8- Wrack lovers
>>44470290
>>44470152
>>44470241
Oh, also, another favorite Dark Eldar story in that same area is the one where Lady Malys steals the Panacea, that could save millions of human lives, both as part of a tournament sponsored by Vect, as well as simply because she could. The thing is collecting dust in her manor.
>>44470210
> if anyone has the picture of the female kabalite warrior in a forest playing a flute (black and white, I believe), I'd be very grateful. It's my favorite Dark Eldar fan art picture.
Bam!
But, yea. I honestly thing GW hit an absolute perfect note with the DE revamp, both in terms of fluff and art. The only thing that's come close since then for me has been the Admech releases.
>>44470311
What does Darklight even mean? Seems kind of contradictory, like the Fullempty Palace.
>>44470366
I dunno, I was just picturing an enormous crystalline palace in a dark part of Camorragh. Named seemed fitting for some reason. Maybe they use exclusively blacklights for some reason.
>>44469972
Might be mistaken but I recall reading that the Dark Eldar wanted them to live so they would have go on feeling the shame of having resorted to such desperate and horrible measures to save themselves.
As in "Dyings and escaping what happened is too easy. You have to live with what you've done.
>>44470333
>>44470341
You are my favorite anon right now.
>>44469070
Eldar mercenaries are a thing and most people don't know the difference between groups of eldar, you don't know you've got problems until they go full supervillain on you
>>44469299
What if... What if that's where the ten thousand psychers a day really go?
>>44470416
Like I said, tsundere as fuck.
>S-shut up! We only saved your lives and your Craftworld so you could do more dark magic things! Don't get any strange ideas, idiot!
>>44470366
Darklight is whatever the hell blasters and dark lances shoot. It's described as forming around balck holes and other extreme stellar phenomenas, and based on the description is probably a different name for antimatter. Even a microscopic speck of darklight reacts explosively with normal matter; the void mine for example is supposed to work by dropping a small amount of pure darklight on the target, contained in a force field to keep it from vaporizing the entire battlefield (too bad in the game it's just a s9 ap2 small blast. Given the fluff you'd expect it to be sD).
The name comes from the fact that when fired the weapons seem to shoot a blast of pure blackness. Even a slight look at a darklight beam without proper eye protection will result in permanent retinal damage.
>>44470429
>>44470341
And yeah, 5th edition Dark Eldar was fantastic for its time. Hell, it even still kinda holds up now, if a bit too mono-build, and the new aesthetics are fantastic; probably my favorite model line from GW. I'm glad they did it, too, because Dark Eldar were my first army, and I wouldn't have given them a second glance if they hadn't been completely revamped.
Current edition even improved on 5th's, but unfortunately isn't so great compared to other codexes right now. Also, making the Voidraven almost completely useless was heartbreaking to me, especially considering how gorgeous the new model is. Making it more expensive, but taking away ALL of its defenses at the same time was a huge blow.
But, hey, Scourges became nice and useful, and taking advantage of Raiders with the Jink wording is pretty bitchin'.
Kabal of wretched claw
Remnants of an old noble house
Something extremely unusual as their leader in this case a former Quatermaster of the DKOK now turned wrack
Personality fueled by Hatred because well he was denied his death during a last stand and now see's his reforged life and body as a chance to serve the emperor in a greater capacity
Origins
Formed by members seeking excitement and sport
Kabal demeanor
A hard storm upon you makes use of heavy weaponry
Kabal flaw
Eye to eye
Territory
High class district
Condition
Infested with Hellion Gangs
Kabal tactics
Performance art: Death
Kabal Resources
Cloning Vats
Kabal Signature weapon
Wrack lovers
Currently not betraying
Wych cult of the steady blade
Goals and Motivations
Murder and destruction
>>44468918
>dat teenager haircut
>>44470553
Lewd-ish, but safe.
Got sidetracked.
>>44470989
Never leave your Craftworld's door unlocked.
>>44470897
Getting a good haircut strengthens Slaanesh.
>>44471137
>>44470897
eldar have always had the best hair
>>44470989
And that's all I've got.
>>44470897
You're surprised she has a scene girl haircut when Dark Eldar are a race of space goths?
>>44471480
I think it was just past grampa's bedtime and he got mad at kids these days.
Have the Dark Eldar ever actually done anything noteworthy?
I mean they've kept any of other races from conquering their realm which is pretty good
>>44472039
The War of Dark Revelations: Urien Rakarth helps the Tau fight Hive Fleet Leviathan in exchange for a tithe of live Tau from each caste (naturally, they refuse to hand over any Ethereals). In a later battle, they notice that some of his Grotesques were blue-grey and he again demands Ethereals. They try to attack his fleet, but it's a mirage while he plunders the now-undefended planet.
>>44472585
Sorry, Hive Fleet Kraken.
Also, Asdrubael Vect raided the Naval outpost at Bakka to steal some nulls from an Inquisitorial outpost hidden in the system to shield his part of Commoragh from daemonic incursions.
What does Slaanesh think of the Dark Eldar? On the one hand, she'd like to eat their souls like those of all the other Eldar. On the other hand, they're a constant source of excess and debauchery which empowers her. Does she have a love/hate relationship towards them or is the urge to eat their souls just too strong?
Any other home brewed kabals?
>>44469235
>Plenty of them might actually get along with the Imperium, if they let them have their fun with slaves.
Implying there aren't Hive worlds which "trade" DE the right to cull the underhives in exchange for xeno-tech and mercenary services.
Implying said worlds' leaders don't get irritated because the DE can't keep up with human population growth, so the Imperial government still has to do some of the work itself.
>>44468977
>>44469007
I feel like you may underestimate how spooky and sadistic Craftworlders can be when they put on the war masks...
A thread about my favorite faction.
Better post before it dies.
>>44475942
Fuck, this actually makes sense.
Archons shouldn't look good. Their faces should be grey and veined, in constant need of stimulation to stave off withering and aging.
this might be a bit of a noob question, but how do dark eldar avoid falling to chaos? My understanding of how chaos works is that the more your mindset has in common with the 4 the more they can corrupt you, and dark eldar culture is more in tune with the ruinous powers than some chaos marines.
I mean, describing dark eldar culture as a giant shrine to emotional excess and byzantine scheming wouldn't be all that far off. Is simply not having any psykers enough that there safe from corruption? is it the other chaos gods don't bother cause slaanesh already called dibs?
>>44468775
> Those Mandrakes, warriors and scourges on the ceiling
>>44478520
Chaos has a weak hold in the webway. Dark Eldar avoid spending time in the Materium.
>>44478553
Holy shit, I hadn't even noticed that.
>>44478553
>>44478654
Holy shit. I'm the anon that posted that, and even *I* didn't fucking notice them.
>>44478628
ah, so if a bunch of dark eldar got stranded in realspace long term they would probably fall? what would a band of chaos dark eldar even look like? normally a chaos corrupted version of something is "like that but worse", but i'm coming up blank on how dark eldar could be worse.
though i'm assuming it's academic, because the rest of the dark eldar would probably hunt down any chaos corrupted dark eldar with a furry and zeal that an inquisitor would consider excessive.
>>44478831
It's not that. Their souls drain even faster when outside of the Webway. They'd just become husks.
>>44468578
Is it just me, or does that seem more Fantasy and not 40k?
>>44478877
Or they'd need to indulge in even more violence.
Or forsake their ways and become Craftworld Eldar
>>44469946
This was the very first piece of artwork associated with 40K I was exposed to. For that alone, Dark Eldar hold a special place in my shriveled, black heart.
>>44469386
>>44469310
Kind of like humans,
In multiple books (Salamanders/Word Bearers omnibuses ect) They have friends and "preferred partners".
Meaning that they like something intangible/tangible about this other dark eldar, to the point of not killing them so they can enjoy that eldars company,
Hard to explain but I remember, vaguely its been a while, in the word bearers omnibus both a homunculus and archon allowing a pupil/servant to live even though their actions should have resulted in their deaths. They state that they like them, as in "I would not have as much fun murdering people day to day without you here with me".
Also yeah they love like how needy people love I want to own you and i want you to need me, I crave you and I need you to crave me.
Is there any Dark Eldar vs Necrons fluff out there? It seems like a rare match up.
Am I completely alone in wishing that wyches were still mostly naked?
Taunting people by showing off skin always struck me as funny and kinda badass. Lopsided plates just aren't the same.
>>44468852
>>44469365
Mandrakes are so fucking cool, it's a shame they're garbage on toast on the TT
>>44479220
Most of the Dark Eldar weapons are based on pain and poison, so they'd have to rely a lot more on their martial skill.
I'm not sure if there is any fluff of it happening, but I get the feeling it would end very badly for the DEldar.
>>44479220
Well, the necrons are kind of... boring. You can't torture them, you can't poison them, you can't fill them with horrible despair by flaying their loved ones and covering every square inch of a cathedral with their dripping flesh... They don't even bleed or scream. They receive no nourishment fighting Necrons, beyond satisfaction in seeing a beaten enemy too stupid to lay down and die be pushed back into the dirt where it belongs.
>>44479274
The rage of the broken pride from an Overlord is probably worth the blood of a thousand humans.
>>44479286
True. I can see making war with an Overlord as something of a vanity project by some particularly power-hungry or vain Archon. You aren't walking away with much profit in the form of slaves by attacking necron territory, so you'd be doing it solely for the glory and bragging rights.
>>44479220
>>44479274
I figure they probably get into some skirmishes, since the Necrons have access to part of the Webway. I can see the Dark Eldar trying to defend their territory. Assuming they don't just seal away the Necron parts.
>>44479286
necons don't have proper souls in the warp, so there rage and despair are probably rather tasteless. Also If necrons didn't have a way to make sure dead eldar stayed dead I would be shocked.
>>44479332
I know the Necrons possess at least one named weapon that completely obliterates souls on contact.
>>44479261
>>44479274
Necrons are 100% susceptible to DE poison.
>>44479220
>799.M41 THE CULL CURTAILED
>A huge raiding party of Dark Eldar descends upon the Bardric System to cull its Ork inhabitants, only to find the greenskins gone – slaughtered by awakened legions belonging to the Charnovokh Dynasty. The Necrons provide the Dark Eldar with unexpectedly deadly sport, leaving the survivors to limp back to Commorragh.
Shit shit shit.
>>44479345
>VOIDREAPER
>Legend has it that on the day Aza’gorod the Nightbringer was sundered into shards, this warscythe appeared in the armoury of the Nekthyst Dynasty’s crownworld. Its blade is a sliver of the void; when swung, it cuts through more than just mere physical forms. Its victims drop to the ground as husks, their souls torn from their bodies like tattered shrouds before dissipating with final screams of horror.
>>44479363
Only in TT.
In Dawn of War Soulstorm it was stated that the Necrons were not susceptible to the Dark Eldar weapons of terror and suffering.
>>44479345
I wouldn't be surprised if the Dark Eldar have at least one named weapon that can permanently kill a Necron, and keep them from teleporting back for repairs.
>>44479391
That could have pretty easily been referring to torture and psychological trauma. Necrons were killable by poison in that too.
>>44479363
>>44479391
I had it explained to me like this, both by a GW store owner and a guy painting nurglings,
"Poison is a blanket term.
When dark eldar fight nurgle deamons they fill their guns with "poisons"
What type of poison hurts nurgle? Well flesh eating bacteria, anthrax or so sort of space ebola that causes the deamon to hemorrhage in a way they do not.
On the other hand, buy some beef jerky, you know those packets that are inside that stop it from getting moist inside the bag? Its a poison for us. But how it kills you is it dries out and absorbs the fluids in your stomach if you ate it.
So if dark eldar fight nercorns the "poison" they would shoot would be some chemical that causes fast acting rust or even better a virus in the computer sense.
>>44479443
I mean, that's just a really big gun.
If you melt a Necron down to a pile of slag or turn it into vapour it can't really reassemble. A conversion beamer should do the trick pretty nicely.
>>44479443
Fluff-wise, Implosion Missiles establish a containment field during the split-second before the detonation of the primary warhead, if teleportation is how necrons get away they might not be able to warp through the field. Maybe?
>>44479447
Game mechanics.
>>44479456
"Poison is a blanket term.
I am aware of that.
However, if the Dark Eldar did not "preptime" for fighting Necrons, then they will suffer the same fate as the kabal here (>>44479379).
>>44479456
My own theory was basically that, that the DEldar probably have acids or some kind of wacky techno-virus that they can use for necrons or other mechanical shit since they can damage Tau crisis suits and drones as well, which are also fully mechanized.
>>44479478
Just saying that "DEldar can't hurt necrons" hasn't been stated anywhere at all, to my knowledge at least. Since the only times we -see- the two fighting it out the guns work fine, we can assume the same is true in the fluff.
>>44479105
>>44469310
>>44469386
Bizzaro question for no reason that popped into my mind.
Do Deldar frown on incest? For no other reason than i am curios and have just read some Game O' Thrones.
In the a Space marine book by Black Library twice they mention some incestuous shit.
Once its an Archeons second in command lusting over his cousin,
Not in the I want to fuck her kinda way but In a "Notice me you whore" kinda way, but the inner monologue shows he thinks about her fucking the guy he works for.
Hes embarrassed by also hopes no one knows about his thoughts about her. I think because the archeon would kill him for wanting something of his, but also maybe incest is some crime>?
and another time a mandrake watches his sister die and gets ecstasy from it.
He however notes how hes going to miss her company, I know GW and BL have toned down the grimdank and the Slannesh Murder Fuck image so outright saying that they are bonning wouldn't fly.
its heavily implied but at the same time the mandrake is lad that no one ever found out for the consequences he would have to endure.
>>44479504
>we can assume the same is true in the fluff.
We don't.
Because it depends on the situation. Normally, the Dark Eldar are geared towards fighting and terrorizing the living. If they stumble of Necrons, while they are geared for fighting living opponents, then their weapons and tactics would be ineffective.
But if the Dark Eldar geared and optimized themselves for fighting Necrons, then they can actually fight the evenly Necrons.
>>44479520
I honestly cannot think of a single reason why career rapists, sadists, sociopaths, arsonists, terrorists or torturers would find incest abhorrent.
Not like a bunch of them aren't mutants anyway
>>44479520
We're talking about a culture that actively encourages new, fashionable methods of murdering your rivals and humiliating them. Like injecting a poison the liquefies them and then handing out glasses of your now gooey rival to have over your dinner of drug-filled baby hearts before watching the fused grotesque mass of space marine limbs try to kill the sister of battle who has been fleshcrafted into a hermaphroditic, chem-pumped psychopathic murder-fuck machine.
Incest is kinda par for the course.
>>44479564
Well it's likely as simple as "Oh shit, Necrons" *swaps magazine for techno-poison* "Okay let's do this."
And this is assuming they don't have an all-comers poison that has something for everybody in some dose.
>>44479569
>>44479566
I know that,
But they have retarded traditions,
No Psykers cause she who thirst might see them,
Well lets just murder fuck in close proximity to a portal to a realm with a god that feeds on murder fucking.
Oh there aint no honor among-st the Delder, Except Incubi, Mandrakes, Trueborn, Scourges, and Homunculuses, that will sign their lives over to an archon and die for him/her/xerself.
Oh all non eldar are dirty and disgusting, especial craftworld, oh and non trueborn, BRB Urghuls and SLyths are in the archons upper echelon of trusted servants.
There seems to be allot of "HURR DURR ancient rules say that whatzes we can and cant do, mind passing me a cripled puppy to eat/fuck/throwup/eat again."
The reason I ask is that im curios how dark eldar women are allowed the time of from leeching souls to save of slannesh while being bloated with a baby, do they have dead beat deldar dads they need childsupport slaves from?
>>44479649
Couple things;
The no-psykers in the city thing is because Commorragh is closer to the warp than realspace as is, it's dangerous enough without a walking psychic daemon-beacon strutting around or getting tortureraped.
-Incubi have martial pride more-so than honor, they go with Archons because that's where the action is and they're paid well.
-Likewise for Trueborn, they get the shiniest guns and get to blow shit up for fun and profit.
-No one -really- knows why the Mandrakes do what they do, but I doubt it's for loyalty.
-Scourges are mercenaries among mercenaries, they pay top dollar to be scary as fuck and heavily armed, so they can kill better and get paid more.
-Haemonculi do what they do for fun and profit as well.
They make good use of slaves and outsourced labor, calling the Archon's retinue "trusted" would be a bit of a stretch, but they aren't DEldar, so slightly more trustworthy.
Finally; the vast majority of DEldar aren't carried to term in a womb, they're removed and placed in vats that rapidly accelerate the process, the ones that -are- pushed out of a twat are the aptly named Trueborn, and they're a rare thing.
Anyone else think sslyths are really cool and wish their models had been converted to plastic?
>>44478831
Eldar don't fall, they just get their souls consumed by Slaanesh. She loves her parents dearly and wants to keep them close.
So who are edgier? Razorblade Elves or Apocalypse Now Marines?
>>44468581
Actually that looks like a harlequin death jester
>>44479258
> it's a shame they're garbage on toast on the TT
They aren't, really. They're cheap, have a reasonably punchy ranged attack, and are an absolute nightmare to deal with unless you can shoot them with an Ignores Cover weapon or assault them. Small units of Mandrakes make excellent objective-grabbers. Of course they'll get torn to bits if you actually try to use them in an aggressive fashion, but they're still very useful for haunting midfield objectives while the rest of your army gets stuck in.
>>44479520
>cousin
Finding cousin marriages icky is a rather modern development. Even today it's perfectly legal to marry and impregnate your cousin in the vast majority of the world's nations, even the West.
Aside from that, I doubt these absurdly depraved monsters would draw the line at something as relatively harmless as fucking their sister.
>>44468597
knives look like they're straight from CS
>>44480894
Razorblade Elves overall. But then again, a 3m insane psycopath screaming that he will tear your skin off is probably a little more scarier than a 2m slender insane psychopath screaming the same.
>>44479649
I don't think the "no psykers" rule is really absolute, considering that there is a piece of DE wargear that's made with souls of tortured psykers, and older fluff described them as considering psykers to be excellent playthings (brighter souls means there's more for them to drain). It might be that just Eldar psykers are banned due to them attracting Slaaanesh like shit attracts flies. Or the Haemonculi just don't give a crap about any restrictions imposed onto the Kabals and do their own thing.
Also, regarding Ur-Ghul and Sslyth. Ur-Ghul have animal-level intelligence and are kept by Archons as bloodhounds due to being vicious bastards with an excellent sense of smell. Slyth, like Incubi, make good bodyguards because, unlike the Archon's own warriors, they have nothing to gain from killing the Archon. Incubi don't give a damn about politics and Slyth are aliens (and therefore wouldn't be accepted as the leader of the Kabal even if they did backstab the Archon) and are only really inerested in getting drugs and shit.
Also, most DE are grown in artifical wombs (contrary to popular belief they aren't clones, though; they're conceived normally but most female DE go to a Haemonculus to have the fetus removed, after which the Haemonculus sticks it into a tube to grow). Being pregnant or getting you lover/concubine/whatever pregnant is considered a status symbol since it means you're wealthy and powerful enough to be able to afford to do things the slow and difficult way and keep yourself or the mother safe despite being in a more vulnerable state. It's pretty much the DE equivalent of buying ridiculously expensive and uncomfortable clothes to show off your wealth, or tying one hand behind your back in a fight to prove you can kick ass even with a disadvantage.
>>44481109
I can picture a fat man in short-shorts stabbing through a Leman Russ port-cover and hacking a hanging Grox ribcage in half.
>>44480902
Anon is right that is Maugen Ra, but I can understand your mistake as both use Shuriken Cannons and dress as skellys
how leet are Kabalite warriors exactly? in the fluff it says you have to be a total bad ass to become a warrior and have a chance of leaving commoragh but in other places they seem to treat the warriors like grots
>>44479649
>mandrakes
>loyal
What in the fuck are you smoking and did you get it from a mandrake? Because he fucking tricked you, because thats what they do. now ur gonna die.
Dont get me started on trueborn isnt the entire premise of trueborn that they try to kill their seargent>kill their cult leader>kill their archon?
>>44484363
They're the elite warrior caste of an extremely violent, bloodthirsty culture, but they're 'only' mortal; while they're highly skilled and well armed, they can be prone to ill-discipline and don't have the sheer, brute power that something like a Space Marine possesses.
>>44484363
They're similar to Aspect warriors of the Craftworld Eldar, Kabalite warriors are basically the main fighting force of the Dark Eldar.
That doesn't really mean much tho, since that basically makes anyone who is "more than just a soldier" superior to them (Incubi, Scourges, Archon's retainers, etc)
Whats stopping Dark eldar from dressing up in eldar colors and approaching other races under guise of truce?
Worst case they got shot at as usual, best case the aliens know the difference and fall for the trick.
How well does your typical DE grunt stack up against a space marine anyways?
>>44484756
wouldnt reavers and scourges be below warriors? maybe wyches too?
>>44484811
if they are dumb enough to fall for it chances are the dark eldar can capture 100 thousand slaves with impunity anyway and have fun killing the enemy in the meanwhile. Dark eldar go to war because :butthurt, want an object, or want slaves. If your butthurt you just want to fight and if its so incredibly important they cant take it, no one is gonna give it to them. For slaves see above.
>>44484756
>They're similar to Aspect warriors of the Craftworld Eldar, Kabalite warriors are basically the main fighting force of the Dark Eldar.
I disagree aspect warriors fight to the last against Necrons even in dire situations.
Kabalites were shown to pussy out and commit suicide rather than face Necron of Maynarkh (picture related).
>>44484811
Most of the galaxy can't tell the difference between a Dark Eldar and a Craftworlder.
>>44484976
They would all be about the same level in terms of skill, just focused in different ways. Wyches are obviously trained as gladiatorial combatants, so are faster and better in melee but would lack the ranged techniques and wider combat awareness of a Kabalite Warrior. Scourges are just Kabalite Warriors who got rich enough to afford wings, but Reavers are a bit of an odd case. They're linked to the Wych Cults but are sort of their own thing; they generally form gangs, the best of which contract their skills out to the Cults, a bit like Hellions. So their skill levels are going to be all over the place.
>>44485077
clearly they were saving their souls from slaanesh instead of that+being flayed
>>44485077
I just remembered something else.
A kabalite was forced to look upon the face of a helmetless Legion of the Damned marine. He died of terror. I guess Dark Eldar are used to dishing it but not receiving it,
>>44485139
>>44485139
fuck I didnt mean scourges I meant hellions, arent they basically gangers? And I guess I kinda meant hierarchy not skill level but I didnt stop and think that the archon would automatically consider stuff thats not from his kabal as more expendable, like wych cult units and stuff.
>>44485314
but I guess I could still mean in their society in general? Wouldnt a warrior be above wyches, reavers and hellions?
Also kabals and cults own their own transports and vehicles, are there like slaves r us stores to order vehicles or do they make them?
>>44484811
They probably do stuff like that pretty often. Humans (and most other races) usually have a hard time differentiating between DE, CWE and Corsair bands that may be aligned with either one (Corsairs are what really makes it confusing; while DE and CWE have pretty distinct weapons and vehicles, Corsairs use stuff from both, and since many Corsair bands work closely with the Craftworlds, telling the wheter any particular Eldar attack was carried out by DE, CWE or some random Corsairs becomes very complicated). DE, being colossal assholes, enjoy purposefully misleading the Imperium and shifting the blame of their attacks on their CWE kin.
>>44480955
Hey Deathleaper, I was planning on running a small DEldar ally to my Eldar army, mostly for a WWP Succubus/Archon. What would you say is good for them and why?
Do relationships between Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar happen? I play CWE, and my Boyfriend plays Dark Eldar, and he wants something cute between my Farseer and his Archon.
>>44485077
>I disagree aspect warriors fight to the last against Necrons even in dire situations.
Of course, I meant in terms of power and training.
Dark Eldar don't give a shit about pointless defeat and will run away if it means saving their hide.
Since the whole reason they're fighting IS to save their hide.
>>44484976
In order to become a scourge you need the status or currency to become one, so I'm guessing only a select few get that treatment.
Reavers are just gang bangers who have the need for speed.
>>44485701
>he wants something cute between my Farseer and his Archon.
More like he wants to take your Farseer on a date to his rape dungeon for an indefinite amount of time.
>>44470333
>her face when Vect invites her to a dinner because of it
>>44485965If you reversed the roles, that wouldn't be too far off from our regular time together
>>44485701
Fellow servants of the Laughing God that has an alliance, of sorts, in having their respective factions operate in secret under his guidance?
Maybe they're looking to reform the old Eldar Empire, and believe that their respective races of the Eldar people are two important aspects of its culture?
>>44486162
>Archon thinks he's lured some unsuspecting Farseer away for some forcey fun time
>his face when the tables have turned
>>44486162
Lucky you
>>44485139
Arguably though, each Kabal is unique in its own way, and a Kabal could have a large number of warriors who pilot jetbikes in its ranks.
>>44485701
>Do relationships between Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar happen?
It has, sort of, happened at least once in the fluff. Path of the Outcast features a relationship between two Corsairs, one Commorite and one Craftworlder. There's a massive cultural gulf between the two factions, but I would be surprised if it didn't happen here and there when they meet as allies, or when Rangers visit Commoragh's outlying ports for trade.
>>44479478
What I recall from the 3rd ed DE codex is that "poison" is actually a cocktail that will contain toxins, poisons and acids (along with anything of a similar nature). Each Cabal will have it's own mixture, but it would be a rare one that couldn't damage just about everything in the galaxy.
>>44485216
legion of the damned are literally hell rider though. and since dark eldar have souls they can be soul burned.
Anyone have more art with the guard fighting them?
>>44487205
All Craftworlds, you know the guys who actually bother remembering pre-degeneration Eldar culture, are struggling to remember anti-Necron tactics and methods. The only exception is Alaitoc, the Craftworld that never forgot about the Necrons.
I doubt the Dark Eldar even remember what the Necrons are. I doubt that their current arsenal and method of warfare can be geared to fighting the Necrons on an even level.
>>44487799
dark eldar developed a poison that destroys necrodermis , so i dont think they are too bad off.
>>44487829
>dark eldar developed a poison that destroys necrodermis
Source?
>inb4 TT shiz.
>>44487007
Didn't an Incubus once convert to the Craftworld way of life when he got abandoned on a planet with a bunch of them in a book? It's not really the same since Incubi are the only DE with a hint of restraint in their way of life buy still.
They're could totally be some form of obsession on the Archon's part as he stalks the Farseer. Fantasizing about being the Khaine to her Isha and locking her away in a cage to wait his leisure.
>>44487995
how did the incubus feed?
>>44488057
He didn't have to I think, he flipped disciplines. By denying his urges, getting a soulstone and being protected in the craftworld Slaanesh couldn't eat away at him.
I guess Eldar can change how they want to live, its just very rare because they all think they're doing it the best way.
>>44488110
>‘Alianna!’
>Keladry ran, his voice echoing through wraithbone corridors as he screamed for his love. He heard laughter, the cruel, dark laughter of a soul that was cold and dead, sustained only by suffering and evil. Around him were the corpses of his crew, his friends, slaughtered by the pirates, their spirit stones cracked and broken, their faces locked in the unimaginable agony of their final moments.
>He would not allow the same fate to befall. Alianna. He turned a corridor and there she was, the cameleoline cloak of a ranger over her armour, pistol trained on a Commorrite. She saw him and turned, and the soulthief seized his chance, knocking the pistol from her grasp and pulling her to him, arm around her throat, her own pistol aimed at her head.
>Keladry pulled his longrifle from his back, priming and aiming it in a fluid motion. ‘Release her, dark one, or you die.’ The monster laughed that cruel laugh. ‘Then kill me, little outcast. The fleshworkers of Commorragh will clone me and revive me. But your lover here will be dead by my final act in this body. And then I will come for you.’ The soulthief leered at Alianna and whispered something to her that Keladry couldn’t hear. His focus shifted for a moment, from the scope of his rifle to Alianna’s face, the pleading look in her eyes.
>He heard, rather than saw, a pistol fire…
>He fell, blood spilling from the wound in his stomach. He lay on his back, pain filling him, and looked up at the face that loomed over him.
>‘Alianna…’ he breathed.
>‘I am sorry, my love. But he offered me my life in exchange for yours. I… don’t want to die.’ Keladry tried to plead with her, to beg for his life, but he couldn’t. He would sacrifice himself for her, he knew that.
>‘Come, young one,’ he heard the soulthief say. ‘Your life can begin anew in the dark city.’
>‘Alianna…’ he whispered again as darkness took him.
-"Crimson Hunter" novel
This is very relevant
>>44488144
that's also a good example
>You'll never have an entire harem of once innocent craftworld babes you've had betray loved ones tend to your every desire.
Must be nice
>>44487799
I dunno m8, chopping, acid and dark lances seem to kill most things including Necrons.
>>44488110
This happened in Path of the Warrior, which was written before the big Dark Eldar revamp/retcon of 5th edition. The fluff regarding how Dark Eldar staved off Slaanesh, precisely what they had to do and whether or not it was a product of their lifestyle that they could circumvent by leaving Commoragh, was a lot murkier back then. So I wouldn't take that example to be too representative of modern DE fluff.
>>44488296
Well we can clearly see that Eldar survive in different ways, I don't exactly see what stops them from switching
>>44488296
Path of the Renegade (the first of the DE Path books) has the titular renegade (ranger who joins up with the DE) starting to suffer from the Thirst towards the end of the novel, which is one of the things that prompts him to reconsider his decision and get the hell out of the Dark City. So at least CWE can essentially turn into DE if they take up the lifestyle. I wouldn't be too surprised if it worked the other way around as well, although it would probably be considerably harder (easier to slide down the slope than climb up, and all that).
>>44469070
Duke Severus from Only War did. As others have noted, probably not one of his smarter ideas (and that's a long list).
>>44468838
This guy does the best Deldar art.
>>44469962
The Path of the Dark Eldar books actually involve a bunch of Deldar going trough that realm.
What would an Archon do if he discover some Mon'keigh had been making "elf rape wat do" threads on his local planetary datanet?
>>44489641
he'd probably rape an elf and then nitpick any inaccuracies in the thread.
>>44478831
The Severed Kabal left the Dark City hundreds of years ago after a failed coup and they live in realspace.
>>44468550
I wish wyches were useful again.
>>44469028
Donte
>Joseph Mengele
>Cenobites
>Tradition folklore elves
>Ninjas
>And pirates
This faction is so fucking cool.
>>44487847
desu i dont remember, but i remember one of the old codexes had a paragraph on why their poison works on orks, tyranids, necrons, and demons
and the gist is that poison rounds can also be filled with viruses, poison, or even strong acid.
and something about how the panacea can be used to kill nurglites.
