>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V6.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
Spooky Scary Elves edition, and why aren't they being updated
ALL BOW DOWN TO SUPERIOR WEAPONRY
Guy who was asking if Ressurection Orbs are only useless in Kill Team or useless in general: Useless in general.
Only real niche use is for Death Stars and giving them one phase of enhanced durability. Otherwise it just costs too much.
>>44460727
>can't even destroy multiple planets at once
Wraithknight = Death Star
Stormsurge = Starkiller Base
>>44460727
The power to destroy a planet is useless next to the ability to choke a bitch and wave around a glowy stick.
>>44460799
Siths go "whynotboth.jpg"
>>44460799
>Warp Choke
>Focussed Witchfire, WC1
>Target suffers a S4 AP4 hit with the Ignores Cover special rule and must take a pinning test with a -2 modifier. If the caster does nothing in their next turn the target is automatically affected by this power again.
>These Aren't The Droids You're Looking For
>Malediction, WC2
>Select one enemy unit and one objective marker. The unit must take a leadership test. If failed that unit may not capture the specified objective until the start of the caster's next turn.
>>44460795
Excuse my lack of starwars knowledge... but what's the "starkiller base"
>>44460897
TFA is nearly a point for point remake of the original Star Wars film, except luke is a girl, C3P0 is a black guy, Vader is an angsty teenager nobody respects and the Death Star is an entire planet.
>>44460931
When does C3-P0 duel Vader?
>>44460966
Yeah yeah, nitpickable differences but overall Finn takes over 3PO's place in the transferred narrative.
>>44460966
"C3PO... I am your father."
"Oh my!"
so how much of an Asshole am I if I turn up at my FLGS playing one of these?
I'm a new tyranids player. How are the Tyrant Guards?
I'd like to play a wingless Hive Tyrant, since my meta is rather casual and almost nobody plays the most powerful armies as their first choice, and was thinking of giving him a retinue of guard, but I'm not sure if they would end up being useful.
I really like the model, so I eventually think of buying them anyway, however I'd like to know their strength to see if making them a priority or if I can "wait" for them
>>44461188
Like 9/10 asshole, if it's you're first visit. If you go there, check stuff out, and see a load of high-power lists then yeah, go for it. But turning up with something generally considered in the top tier of the power rankings without knowing what your local meta is like is pretty dickish.
>>44461218
If you are going wingless Hive Tyrant then they are pretty much mandatory.
>>44461254
Though you could run OOE instead.
C'mon anon, do it: 100% synapse free nids.
>>44461024
Vader sort of is his father in a way. He did built C3PO when we has a kid.
>>44460791
Is the res orb really that bad?
>>44461264
That was, in fact, the joke yes.
Droids really get the short end of the stick in those movies.
>>44461283
How would Droids do in 40k?
I'm betting worse.
Adeptus Mechanicus beliefs:
Machines have spirits.
Machines are holy.
Metal is better than flesh.
NO AIS
??????????
>>44461301
>>44461283
Well I guessing C3PO would wander around acting all campy while R2D2 who just sort things out
>>44461301
Aren't Necrons droids in a sense?
>>44460985
As the primary instigator of the plot and the person who honestly got the most done?
>>44461301
R2-D2 would single-handedly set in motion events that would save the Imperium. Then he'd be sassy.
>>44461301
Men of Iron.
Enough said.
>>44461326
"OH! I say Artootep! All this shredded flesh caught in my servo-motors is quite infuriating!"
"BLEEDLEY-DOO-DOOT-WHEEP"
"That's not even a real language Artootep."
>>44461356
The adventures of Threepeeses the flayed one and Artootep the destroyer.
Didnt get any response yesterday because I posted in between two people arguing:
Are these the Kill team rules?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hdszj0pc7v6l18j/Kill%20Team%20Rules%20v3.1.pdf?dl=0
My friends and I are getting into 40k and I want to build a Dark Angel force. We are starting at 250 points.
Can I bring a Darkshroud or any vehicle outside bikes?
I can't find the rules.
I am thinking I will get like three bikes and a Darkshroud. The relic like it would be pretty effective. Then when I move up I can just add landspeeders as the Support formation seems popular..
>>44461319
It's because machine intelligence is non-human intelligence. Anything non-human is unclean to Imperials. Ironic, considering the "machine spirit" itself is an AI created by ancient man. (Head canon. I have no source.)
How big is an Ark Mechanicus? The closer to a concrete estimate the better.
>>44461393
To the Imperials, sure, but let's not even pretend the Mechanicus follow the same religion.
>>44461381
Some friends and I play 250 point kill teams semi-regularly.
My advice? Screw the rules. Here's what you do:
Any model can move anywhere. No concept of squads, except for in the construction of an army. Firing and assault is conducted on the basis of "whoever's in range is subject to getting hit."
There. Kill Teams. Done.
Whalehammer 40tons: Krill Team
>>44460701
Hey guys guess what this is.
Arrived literally twenty seconds ago.
>>44461401
Why shouldn't we? The Mechanicus and the Ecclessiarchy have been doing it for centuries.
That and the mechanicus hate soulless intelligence. They are still working religiously (That and AI buttfucked humanity pretty hard in the past)
>>44461254
>>44461262
Ok, thanks. But as a unit by themselves? Would be useful to play them even if I used a flyrant or being meat shield for the tyrant is their only point?Synapse-free tyranids is something that I will definitely try when I will have some more models
>>44461442
About damn time.
>>44461462
Cool. That's Eldar and what...Space Marines? (It's imperial armour, there is a 80% chance space marines are in it)
>>44461471
Eldar, Space Wolves and Cadians.
Anyone have the burning dawn tau rules in a pdf? Can't find them anywhere and I'm not buying the shitty campaign set for it
>>44461410
But don't the rules have special point values to balance things out and stuff?
We just want to use it as a learning tool mostly.
>>44461476
Ah, Marines AND Guard.
Cool.
>>44461462
Eldar superheavies look so cool, but I can't bring myself to pay FW prices, especially for something that'll make opponents resent me even more. Hopefully any Epic reboot will have models for them.
>>44461471
One Wolf Lord, one Cadian Character and 3 IG super-heavies. The rest is all Eldar
>>44461487
Well after just glancing through the book now I can say the art is GORGEOUS. Seriously, if you like art you will love this book.
>>44461462
>Mfw
Good buy anon, tell me what you think of the Void Dreamer once you start reading
>>44461445
Mechanicus and Ecclesiarchy aren't even Catholics and Protestants, they're like Catholics and Native Americans loosely claiming "Well I guess the Great Spirit is basically your god, sure" for political reasons.
>>44461476
Oh, are their unique rules for the Woofs? I Haven't heard anything about that yet.
So are Cadians Space Canadians or what?
>>44461530
If you haven't noticed, taking wildly variant faiths and working out how they are all in fact the Emperor is kinda the Ecclessiarchies THING. They do it with every planet, not just the Mechanicus.
That and it's a political reason that both sides enjoy the effects of (And like most things, varies from planet to planet how close/far apart they are)
What's better: Hammerhead in squads for the Bs +1 or separated?
>>44461539
>>44461551
More like space south koreans. Without the pop music, obviously.
>>44461572
>Without the pop music, obviously.
I dunno man, they've got to have some form of entertainment to stay sane. Why not Gangnam Style?
>>44461567
>Brian the Werewolf
>>44461567
I like to think there's some Blood Claw whose job it is to retrieve the axe after he drops it in every battle.
Why doesn't having empty but deadly hands count as two melee weapons?
Or are we seriously going with a monstrous creature with zero or one sticks is less deadly than a monstrous creature with two sticks
>>44461706
My daemon prince with two massive clawed hands would like to know the answer to this as well.
>>44461337
MEN OF GOLD
>>44461395
Huge, like fucking huge. One of the largest ship classes. So large that space marine strike cruisers and rogue trader ships comfortably sit in their hanger bay. Sources say 6km, but my impression of the Speranza was that it was larger.
>>44461562
I find that taking 0 Hammerheads is the best answer.
>>44461452
Noone?
>>44461706
Because then tyranids would have loads of attacks, and that would break the golden rule that tyranids must becruddy.
>>44461567
How did they manage to make him shittier?
>>44461808
Tau tank division really need to step up their game.
Also still not sure why Fire Warriors don't have specialists.
>>44461910
He actually, by the rules of the two books, has become better. The fact is that the earlier version had received a FAQ that made the Redmaw a MC, and we can't really know now if this version is actually legit or if they made the same mistake again (there were Eldar to buff, you know; you can make error when you're concentrated on the IMPORTANT THINGS)
>>44461922
Isn't the Tau Armoured Interdiction Cadre good enough?
As far as Firewarriors come, you can now give them missile turrets.
>>44461942
The Redmaw gains rending as a special rule and MCs are already hitting at AP2, so it's unlikely they made a mistake.
>>44461942
Given the bit about losing the AP2 axe but gaining rend it seems fair to think they didn't intend for him to get AP2 via Smash as an MC (as I assume that's the main thing here). Doesn't feel like an oversight to me.
>Read through the Ork codex
>Read this line "Orks have never master space travel"
60 million years and they couldn't master it? That's embarrassing that is.
>>44462009
>>44462023
The fact is the rending may be used as a way for him to pop AV13-14 vehicles too, other that for the AP2.
I know it's unlikely, it's just to say that I want to wait some time to be sure that he lost the MC status
>>44461986
Yer, but Pathfinders get rail and ion rilfles. Ah well.
Anyhow: We're now up to about... 8 distinct non-superheavy battlesuit types and only the Devilfish frame in three variants for tanks.
>>44461942
>Focusing on lesser races
>Our faces when
>>44462030
mastered*
>>44462023
The old version was better, because he lost his save (instead had FNP) but struck at AP2 at a silly high initiative.
>>44460701
So I have had a flick through the book and I must say I am rather impressed.
Anybody want a picture of anything from Doom of Mymeara? Just a few, as I have shit to do today.
>>4446203
>not wanting to jump on a piece of floating debris and see where it takes you
Where's your sense of adventure
>>44461922
We need some options to take vs the under-powered codecies. I find Longstrike is a fun way to pull shenanigans without being imba.
>>44462042
The rules don't say he's an MC, so he's not an MC. Stop trying to cheat.
>>44462030
Is their space travel good enough to get them to the next fight? Yep. That'll do.
What dimensions of magnets should i use for Space Marine arms? 4mmX2mm?
>>44462098
So you want them to actively make your codex worse?
How bad has GW done if people want them to nerf their army so that they don't feel bad for others?
>>44461808
What's wrong with bringing Hammerheads?
>>44461452
Single model squads of Tyrant guard make great backfield objective campers.
For 50pts they can sit on an objective, won't eat themselves, and they require just the bare enough dedicated firepower to kill that your opponent will usually opt to attack something else instead.
>>44462164
they are so meh
Besides Wraiths and their APC, which other Necron units one should be wary or even fear?
>>44462164
They suffer the same problems Fire Prisms do, as in you are relying on single shot weapons to do your tank hunting. Heck, the Fire Prism has more varied shooting and still isn't worth taking.
And single shot strength ten AP 1 that might not even do anything is... really lacklustre honestly.
>>44462171
Ok, thanks
>>44462178
Their hamster wheels. They are as terrifying as they are goofy.
>>44462080
You mind posting the pale court decurion bonuses again?
>>44462154
No, there are plenty of mediocre options available, I'm just ok with having them as a less powerful option. Internal balance and external balance would be preferred, but with external imbalance internal imbalance is necessary for un-stacked games.
>>44462192
What if you bring Longstrike or an Ionhammer?
>>44462080
I need the Corsair list. I have the other eldar units and formations here; https://flic.kr/s/aHsknZtArZ
>>44462210
Sure here you go.
>FROO DA KOSMOS
>The Orks navigate both real space and the Warp with an ease born of fearlessness. In the case of the former, they simply hijack a space hulk, dock their vessels to it and aim it off in the direction they wish to travel. Warp travel is even less complex: open a rift in reality with the help of a Weirdboy and fly into the Immaterium. Any problems of getting lost (or attacked by Daemons) are considered an added source of excitement for all.
Orks don't have Warp drives? How can they even Waaagh! in sectors in a concentrated force? They should be scattered across the place the moment their fleets enter the warp.
Plothole!
>>44462252
Ta, old one had massive reflection/glare ruining it.
>>44462222
Ion-strike is hilarious for overwatch, and can cause some fun v. meq. Generally a Hammerhead will be less useful than a broadside or a riptide in there respective rolls. most efficient set-up I've seen is two hammerheads with sub-munitions, and marker support, can tear through armor starting on turn one, and switch to killing infantry immediately afterwards, great for IG, Ork, and Crons. If still not as good as the fucking mecha.
>>44462203
...I can't place what unit you're talking about here.
>>44462270
Tomb blades. Horrifying.
>>44462244
You want me to post the entire Corsair unit section? I said a few pictures, and that is one of the largest sections in the book.
I will get one or two pages but not the whole thing. What do you want specifically.
>>44462222
>>44462222
oh, and of-course OSC, and the stormsurge both do better as well in the new book.
>>44462270
I guess he means Tomb Blades.
>>44462254
They anchor to hulks, moon sized lumps of asteroids, ships and space stations and then send them through, the sheer mass can easily convey a large fleet to the same destination with only minor losses, no more than 40% so easily sustainable.
>>44462252
Cheers m8.
It's cool there's now a way to dodge the Guardian tax in favour of more Aspects. Though, Matchless Agility is such a sexy bonus I'm not sure if it's worth running a Aspect Lord-shrine/Halls of Martial Splendour court just to make Autarchs a bit less shit and free up points for more Aspects.
>>44462286
That was just if you had the time as we already have the other eldar stuff.
>>44462286
Oh.
Not really seeing hamster wheels, but yes: Twin linked T5 immortals for a pittance of points with a cheap ignores cover upgrade.
>>44462286
Maybe quality pics of Shadow spectres and Phoenix lord.
>>44462305
Sorry man. I might another day but right now I am on a time limit.
>>44462302
Yeah I noticed that. I don't think that losing the +1 BS, rerolling checks and once off ability that the Dire Avengers get is worth having them in core IMO.
The Autarch thing looks like it could be good with the shard of anaris.
Is the Ghostkeel a good anti-aircraft platform?
>>44462328
That would be great.
>>44462328
>I don't think that losing the +1 BS, rerolling checks and once off ability that the Dire Avengers get is worth having them in core IMO.
Unless I'm retarded, I think you're allowed the Avenger Formation as long as it's your chosen Aspect, hence "unless the chosen Aspect is that of the Dire Avenger". It is an oddly redundant bit of wording though.
And yeah, A Shard Autarch with Anaris sounds like he could be filthy rape.
>>44462318
Here is The Phoenix Lord.
One sec and I will have the regular dudes.
How movements affects your shooting when you switch between rapid fire/assault/etc ammunition and heavy one?
>>44462302
Matchless agility is from the Warhost style system, not the core choice.
So you can have both, the real loss is what >>44462328 points out.
>>44462335
Good strength and rate of fire, but you really want long range on anti-air so you can intercept properly.
>>44462335
The short range is a hit to it's usefulness, but if you really dislike the broadside, skyray, HBC AA riptide, and FW fliers, then it would be the next choice.
TLDR: No not really.
>>44462080
have the rules for the shadow spectres changed at all? Also, mind posting the new wraithknight variants?
>>44462372
Here is the Scathach Wraithknight.
>>44462372
Regular spectres went from 3+ to 4+
Price from 30 to 25.
Shadow of Death power became included in Exarch profile for free.
Would anyone take Railsides, if they came with velocity tracker incorporated?
>>44462362
If you move, you have to snap shoot heavy weapons. Rapid fire and assault fire normally.
If you shoot heavy weapons or rapid fire weapons, or any type that's not assault/pistol, you cant Assault afterwards (unless you're relentless like a bike or have another special rule overriding this)
If you have various types of ammo for a weapon, with i.e a Heavy mode and an Assault mode, you simply treat the weapon as a gun of the relevant type, so you would usually not use the Heavy setting after moving, etc.
>>44462363
>you can have both
Well fuck me ragged. Rebirth of Ancient Days soon then boys.
I still think I'm right about the formation though as it specifically says it's not allowed UNLESS you pick Avengers as the aspect you're taking as your Aspect Lord-shrine. The distinction being that, for example, you could take 3 units ofScorpions as the Aspect Lord-shrine and thus be forbidden the Avenger formation OR take 3 units of Avengers and go ahead with the Formation bonus.
>>44462413
Railguns are the sexiest weapons in the game, I'd take them even without VT
Who has the Creature Feature PDF? I find it amusing that Enslavers can control even daemons.
>>44462433
Oh yes indeed, if you don't take avengers as the mandatory ones you lose access entirely.
>>44462433
I think what it means is it wants to incentivise you into taking Dire Avengers for your core, not that the Shrine's bonuses are given to your core.
>>44462413
They'd be better than VTless missile-sides. I run barracudas for my AA personally.
>>44462433
Not sure if the same unit can be in two formations at once, as the Core choice is a formation as well asr the Aspect Host.
>>44462445
>>44462335
Yeah its good. Its even better in an OSC for ignores cover and auto-rear armor hits.
>>44462411
the shadow spectre holofield stacks with stealth and shrouded now too
>>44462448
Aye definitely. It was always a pain in the sack to take Diet Avengers to make your regular ones go fast.
>>44462475
Wrong creature feature. I found the right one here http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1395/50/1395505164796.pdf
>>44462110
Anyone experienced with magnetizing SM or CSM? How big magnets do you use? ;_;
>>44462405
can we get the Corsair Coterie special rules? the one with the command benefits on it
>>44462540
You mean their FOC?
>>44462405
>>44462540
And the corsair special rules in general?
>>44462540
I'll post both pages.
>>44461273
All it does in the 7e book is reroll failed RP rolls for 1 phase. For 30 points, and it is one use only. It's terrible.
>>44462475
>greatknarlocshaping.pdf
>>44462553
Yeah, the FOC is on the one page, and the command benifits / restrictions are on the other page
>>44462405
Can you post the Voidstorm Band page?
Is it a good idea to assault a Devastator squad with Kroots?
>>44462612
Kroot can tie the unit up on the cheap, but aren't really assault units anymore.
>>44462578
Ok second last one. Only doing one more after this and that is >>44462596 this guys's request.
Got to go to work.
>>44462612
If you can get them there, sure. The combat may end up a deadlock (they don't have the attacks to wipe you out, you don't have the AP or ability to force loadsa save rolls to wipe them out) but while they're in combat, the big guns aren't firing.
>>44462538
>>44462110
Guys please, where do you get your magnets
>>44462640
Cheers buddy! You're doing Khaine's work!
We have Feudal Worlds, Caveman worlds..but.
Are there worlds stuck in the 17 century?
>>44460889
Comp to The Horror and see how terrible you are at rule design. ForgeWorld plz go.
>>44461567
is he not worth his points right now?
>>44462652
Most likely.
>>44462670
What do you think of a western "Ranger" styled regiment?
>>44460985
Lazy analysis. Did you even Hidden Fortress? You get an F.
Threepio is the low character through which the story is observed. He is there for POV purposes and to juxtapose the heroism of those around him. Finn is a hero in his own right, so the comparison falls apart.
>>44462658
In my opinion? His transformation is a downside, as his axe is badass as fuck.
So not really, no.
>>44462676
Not sillier than some of the old ones.
>>44461188
just let your opponent know it's coming, so they can equip appropriately. No problem. I'd love to play this mess.
>>44462695
>Teutons
Krieg light?
>>44462405
>Last thread talking about how Imperial Knights are 15 more points than Morkanaut
>This thing is 5 points more
When will they hire play testers lol
>>44462650
Local guy boys them in batches of 1000 from chain and resells them at a fair markup.
>>44461562
I run mine separate - I want the flexibility to target different units. If you are playing WAAC, run them in the hunter contingent and you can get the +1 BS via combined fire.
>>44462711
It's the Morkanaut that is under-powered, and the play-testers are in use, just not for balance purposes.
>>44462030
Misread that as "time travel".
That'd be a whole different feel to 40k
>>44461337
men of iron are literal terminators
droids are closer to mounting a gun on pic related
>>44462192
> Does not know ion cannon.
> Does not recognize that vehicles have an alternate defense mechanic.
> Does not know vehicle 4+ cover rules.
wut
>>44462365
this.
> mfw use them for anti-air and struggle.
>>44462676
>IG cowboys throwing lassos at nids to wrestle them down.
>>44462686
Nah man, Rey is Luke, Finn is 3PO and Han is Obi-Wan. There's not a direct Han analogue in the film because they end up splitting Han duties between the three of them.
>>44462686
>Implying 3PO isn't the greatest hero in the starwars universe.
>>44461452
Run Hive Guard if you just want to take a -Guard unit by itself. Impaler Cannons aren't that bad.
>>44463081
S8 Ignores cover, no LoS need.
>aren't that bad
>>44463115
BS 3, sure it being Assault 2 helps, but the lower BS hurts
>>44463134
BS 3 is average BS
>>44463134
They were BS 4 in the last Tyranid Codex right?
>>44463301
yes, nids got their shit all kinds of F'ed up in this edition.
>got those flyrants though
I want to run some sort of IG, Tempestus, Inquisition list. Do I need knights to make any of it work?
>>44463365
Any idea when Tyranids 7th is coming out? I'm concerned about the welfare of my tiny bugs.
>>44463460
You think they can suck more?
>>44463460
I've heard 1Q of 2016
>>44463443
Imperial Knights make any Imperial list stronger, but IG with some allies shouldn't have too many problems in most metas. If you find yourself in a meta with lots of top preforming armies, then the knight may make for more balanced games.
>>44463460
Same time as Megaman Legends 3
>>44463476
>Remove flyrants
![Robin_Cruddace[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0wL0Psc.jpg "Robin_Cruddace[1].jpg")
>>44463460
Soon. I heard that the Flyrant is currently unbalanced. I'm looking forward to fixing it.
Go for the Dakka Knight: S10 AP2 plus stomp is plenty in assault in nearly any situation, and you'll certainly notice the extra gun.
Top weapons are kinda dissapointing: By all logic a top mounted gun should be far more serious than a less firmly mounted arm one. Was really hoping the Knight Warden would be, y'know, a Knight Warden.
>>44463530
Wouldn't make much difference outside of idiots who think single unit spam is any way to run an army.
I'm back with an updated Imperial Amour 11 Second Edition shitty photo compilation.
Now with less shitty photos edition!
https://mega.nz/#!j4c2ACoD!s7rWftaWoZZyCar49R0wBfnxcnBOmHFWrm-QN-dTUKk
>>44463460
There was a rumor in october about them coming out during Q1 2016, while another rumor in november said they wouldn't come out in january (with words like "No tyranids, dwarves in flames" or whatever name they have)
>>44463583
Are all the photos less shitty, or are there just less of the shitty photos?
>>44463503
Alright.
What about scions. What's their shtick?
>>44463476
Are they really that bad this edition? I play frequently against my brothers who run Necrons and Blood Angels, and I've got an equal win/lose ratio.
>>44462836
Wasn't there a regiment creation thread that ended up with something like this a while back?
>>44463626
Work decently as deep striking melta/plasma. Kinda over costed, but a couple squads and a command squad to throw the (very good) orders around can work.
>>44463630
What do you run against the Necrons to have that good of a W/L?
>>44463626
Imperial guard but no tanks, no artillery, no psykers, no heavy weapons teams, no cheap soldiers and no vendettas.
Or rather, "Stormtrooprs with taurox and valkyrie transports " the codex
>>44463671
My army is: Flyrant, 2 carnifex, 12 hormagaunt, 9 genestealer + Broodlord, 3 zoanthrope.
Necrons is: 5 immortals, 20 warriors, 1 command barge + overlord, 1 doomsday ark, 1 ghost scythe, 4 canoptek wraiths
Blood Angels is: Assault termies, tac squad, death company jump squad, librarian dreadnought, stormraven,
My biggest weakness thus far has been an inability to reliably deal with the wraiths; I generally have to park my flyrant over them and gun them down from above. I can usually roll over the Blood Angels though. My hormagaunts have two terminator kills.
>>44463597
less of the shitty photos
>>44463731
I've had a unit of 30 termagants slowly take out a Necron on a Chariot. It's really satisfying watching the baby gribblies take out big tough guys!
>>44463731
>dealing with wraiths
feed them units and kill other stuff. you could try baiting them with a unit then moving in assault terms with hammer/shield.
or the wraiths could avoid that and just aim for your jugular
>>44463811
Eh, the Command Barge was never a good unit. It was horribly overrated in the previous codex despite every netlist spamming it*, and it's been nerfed down now.
*Seriously, you had to pay superheavy prices for it, and it only got nigh-immunity to the shooting phase out of it. Low damage output for cost, fell apart in assault against many things and massively less useful the instant your opponent realised that.
>>44463873
Well darn, that makes me feel kind of sad then. I can't say I've ever really looked at Necron units in depth before, but I thought it was scary enough.
>>44463911
Don't worry
I have necron players who swear by it and would tell anyone that said it was shit to "git gud scrub"
>>44463873
I used the previous codex's rendition of annihilation barge in a few GT's, and it performed very well. Allowed me to place top 5 reliably.
Does anyone know where to find the pdf of teh re-release of Mymaera? I want to see if these silly new wraithknight variants are experimental. Hellstorm shred monofilament templates my ass.
>>44464037
I guess the experimental label would have been in the above pictures.....oh well.
What is the point of the shunt generator? Why not just....move 12 inches with a jump?
Well, with the Res Orb being effectively given to Crypteks, the old role of Necron Overlords is lowered, and Lords are utterly pointless.
Instead of a unit-buffing character with solid combat ability, you get a non-unit buffing character with slightly improved combat ability (reanimate each wound now).
Orikan fills the old role very well though, having improved reanimation, improved saves and when his powers kick in becoming a pseudo-Monstrous Creature. (He's not entirely awful before either, rerolling to hit with AP2 is handy).
Odds are if it weren't for the Decurion making Overlords mandatory, nobody would play them anymore in favour of Orikan as the auto-take HQ, a regular Cryptek or Szeras the obvious secondary choice.
>>44464037
see
>>44463583 and >>44462405
>>44464077
i guess eldar like fancy things and it fits their theme?
>>44464077
Hoping for lucky scatter to get a little farther? No, I don't see it getting used for its movement, just for bouncing into Reserves for a quick redeploy.
>>44464037
Annihilation Barge? Well duh, that thing was horrendously good.
They did overnerf it though. And Tesla in general- If they'd made it so Tesla can't fire if you Jink that'd have solved the real issue.
There's no point in the slightest to take a Tesla weapon on infantry now: Being able to use it for overwatch and limited anti-air was literally the only reason not to take Gauss.
>>44464099
can orikan change from monster to normal from one turn to the next?
>>44464330
nope
once he goes beastmode he stays that way
>>44461337
I believe they would fall under automaton rather than true abominable intelligences, just look at the mechanicus robots.
>>44464330
No, now he only goes up and doesn't come back down.
I find that he usually morphs turn 3, which is also about the earliest he should be seeing assault as a footslogger.
I've also had him single-handedly beat down an Imperial Knight. Statistical overperformance? My, yes, but that there's even a chance of that happening says a lot about his beatstick capability.
Are Zoanthropes in a Tyrannocyte decent anti-tank?
>>44464487
Yeah, as long as you don't royally fuck up your dice rolls
>>44462743
The wraithknigth used to be a monstrous creature, just wait.
Breachers or pulse carbine strikers?
>>44464769
pulse carbine warriors
breachers suck shit
>>44464671
it should have stayed a fucking MC
>>44464769
Breachers, carabines are for pathfinders
>>44464797
Breachers are shit, but so is anything relegated to Devilfish transport to work. Might as well fully commit to your gimmick and try to land that 5 inch range than halfway ass it.
>>44464671
It is done; the gorkanaut and morkanaut are now super heavy walkersat 300 points with 8 hp, kff of 4+ at 18", assault ramps, transport ability of 30, it will not die, strength D on melee weapons and the price of the kit just dropped to $100.
Unfortunately you lose your arms in a car accident.
>>44464797
It does make sense to make it a gargantuan considering how big it is, it's about as tall as a knight titan. The point value is just too low and it really sets off the point value in the game.
>>44464818
but pathfinders are no good in a firefight if their cover is comprimised
>>44464872
So they are made into OP nobrainer shit?
Pass.
So my friends and I are going to be playing our first game in a few days and This is the necron list I plan on bringing, what do you think /tg/?
Overlord (warscythe,phylactery) -115
1 11model warrior +1 10 warrior -273
10 man imortal squad -170
1 tomblabe sqaud (particle beamers, sheildvanes, nebuloscopes) -72
canoptek spyder -50
6 canoptek wraiths (all lashwhips) -256
Canoptek scarabs -60
Total 998 points
>>44464972
I think you can do a better job and fill out those last two points
>>44464872
I would have expected more "Unfortunately their stationary and have no ranged weapons"
>>44464984
thank you for not giving me any actual information :V
>>44465066
>>44465052
>>44464872
Maybe if I remember to attach the damn picture too...
>>44463665
Can you use the orders on other IG units?
>>44463682
Well that blows. Will they get more anytime soon?
>>44465080
you're welcome
>>44465108
No, that's what they do, elite soldiers and their transports.
Navy seals don't have personal tanks or howitzers either.
You can ally yourself to some army grunts and their toys though.
>>44465082
Why does everyone and their dog airbrush riptides to shit?
>>44465185
Taste.
Sure beats one tone painjob with onetone higlight and a bucket of black wash.
Or leaving it bare.
>>44464908
Plus markerlights are too critical to pass up using carbines over them unless desperately necessary.
>>44464949
Be careful what you wish for.
>>44465185
I'm going to hand paint mine. Wish me luck.
>>44465180
I guess these don't look so bad with wheels.
But all in all, ally them with normal IG basically?
>>44465218
But it's always just the ugly blend-to-black crap all over the model along with the overdone OSL.
>>44465269
I wish all the whiny ork players would quit and sell their shit so I can get more of the "bad useless trash units" from the "worst army in the game"
>>44465278
that's the style of the day
>>44465277
Or all the other imperial factions they are BB with.
>>44462030
>can't master space travel
>can master tike travel
I don't understand
>>44465314
Can the inquisition take guardsmen?
>>44465336
No, they are another Ally codex, they are only Elite units and a HQ or two.
>>44464168
>https://mega.nz/#!j4c2ACoD!s7rWftaWoZZyCar49R0wBfnxcnBOmHFWrm-QN-dTUKk
Oh, I meant the command barge. My bad.
Have to fight Elysians with Tyranids, 1000 pts. How's this list?
Flyrant with 2x Devourer
Flyrant with 2x Devourer
Venomthrope
3x Warriors
3x Warriors
Hive Crone
Hive Crone
>>44465400
4 FMC in a 1k game is pretty damn cheesy unless you know he's got several Vendettas's in his list.
>>44465400
If you've got the points maybe grab a biocannon on the warriors to add to your ability to hurt whatever infantry he lands. Can't help wondering if a single biovore will serve you better than a single venomthrope for the same reason.
>>44465506
It's Elysians, he's going to run a shit ton flyers.
>>44465349
Ok
A base guard army seems like a good start then.
>Instead of Double-toughness weapons causing Instant Death, they instead can reroll failed to wound rolls
How many units would this make playable?
>>44465683
More for sure, but it's kind of stupid that my krak missile can't one shot that Tau etheral now.
>>44465683
It's going to hurt more things than help.
>>44465700
Its also stupid that your krak missile can one-shot my meganobz too
It should be double+1 for instant death
>>44465683
Instead of rerolling wounds just make it insta wound
Does anyone here play the Dawn of War games? Soulstorm specifically?
Is there any up to date information about the faction "tier list" and stuff? Like who's the best and the worst to play as and why. I heard Dark Eldar, Eldar and Chaos are the best and Sisters of Battle, Necrons and Space Marines are the worst.
