/tg/, you're a bounty hunter and have been hired by the Empire to kill a former Jedi Knight, and you know everything about Jedi and the Force that the Empire knows. What weapons do you take to kill this Jedi, how do you find them, and what tactics minimize the amount of skill you would personally need to succeed most of the time?
Joke's on them, I am the Jedi Knight! They've hired me to hunt myself.
>>44458680
Jedi Knight Roger a Muirebe was a wacky guy
Meditate to practice emptying your mind, then deceive them and stab them in the back
>>44458661
Get a database on anyone with a sufficiently high midiclorian count old enough to have been alive during the clone wars/escape Order 66, and then air strike them.
>>44458661
Death Star
Death Star it all
>>44458661
Decanonize him.
>>44458661
>hunt Kyle Katarn
You're gonna need to send TR-8R after me because there's no way I'm going after Lightside Forcechoke the Balanced Space Wizard
>>44458661
Grab a death star. Jedi knights love death stars. Replace the tractor beam controls with an instant detonation switch.
laugh my way to the space bank
After I find him,
>Snipe him from far away
>Set a bomb in his starship
>Poison his food or drink
>Hire enough blaster-trained thugs to shoot at him, he can't block 10 shots at once
>Poison/sleeping gas the building he is in
>Take a hostage, when he rescues it, there was secretly a bomb on the hostage's person
>Give a fake lead, trap the lead with a bomb
>Blow up wherever he's at with heavy ordinance from far away
>Fuck, just blow him up in general.
So long as I don't engage him directly and my aim isn't complete ass, I should be able to kill him eventually. If I'm a professional bounty hunter I'm sure I know how to cover my ass and kill a guy, even a guy who is stronger than me.
>>44458661
from my experiences in SWG, explosive droids are the most hilarious method
Get a few robots and have a built in mechanism that emits a sudden short, intense burst of radiation. Have them like different types of robots, and just have them nonchalantly get near the jedi (like as serving drinks, just passing by, or repairing something near them or cleaning the floor) and active the mechanism trigger.
Do this a few times, and they'll be dead within a month.
>>44458661
>What weapons do you take to kill this Jedi, how do you find them, and what tactics minimize the amount of skill you would personally need to succeed most of the time?
Problem solved.
>>44458792
This.
I am not desperate enough, or even half as stupid, as I'd need to be to go after a walking extinction event like Kyle Katarn.
If I was stupid and desperate enough to try and kill that genocidal gentlemen, then it would be in space combat. Where his: light saber, lighting, force choking, mind tricks, small arms, and absurd acrobatics are not a factor. In space Kyle's about as helpless as any other mook in a cockpit.
That said Kyle's got an ace pilot flaying him around the galaxy. Jan Ors is on par with Luke Skywalker for pilot skill, and she's not even force sensitive. So even a space ambush would need to be done with at least a full wing of interceptors.
Get them in a public place with lots of potential collatoral damage, get my droid (it's important that it's a droid because Jedi have a harder time sensing machines than living things) to lob explosives at the Jedi. While the Jedi is distracted neutralizing the bombs, I pick it off with either an ion blaster or a concussion rifle depending on the range. Disruptors or slug throwers work as well, the important part is that it can't be deflected with a lightsaber. Speaking of lightsabers, equip the droid with a shield (like the rollers from the Phantom Menace) and tell it to move in between me and the Jedi as soon as it detects a lightsaber igniting. If you want to be really thorough, plant another bomb on the droid itself, but I think that's a waste of a perfectly good droid and shields don't come cheap either.
I defeat him with bad platforming mechanics.
>>44458661
I defeat Kyle Katarn the only way he's ever been defeated:Make him non-canon.
Get a pet ysalamiri and just shoot them in the back from a close, but out of melee, distance.
>>44459507
Or lock him in a room with an obtuse code puzzle.
>>44458661
IED.
Human bomb.
Poison gas.
Vehicular sabotage.
Those bubble shields from RotS.
Assorted booby traps.
>>44458855
This. Buy space c4, fill basement with space c4. Call target Jedi, ask him over for tea or else I'll murder a random family (that he knows) each day until he does, when he comes, blow the house up.
>>44459742
Jedi can sense bad feelings and what not through the force right? Find the Jedi's friend, stake out where they live, scope out their habitat and belongings, replace their belongings with an explosive replica.
Next time Lightsaber McGee is hanging out with Plot von Exposition at a bar you trigger the detonator that explodes the latter's code cylinders that are alas, filled with C4 and not encryption keys.
>>44458661
I get a small capital ship and conduct a planetary bombardment on the Jedi's location.
>>44458661
>>/tg/, you're a bounty hunter and have been hired by the Empire to kill a former Jedi Knight, and you know everything about Jedi and the Force that the Empire knows. What weapons do you take to kill this Jedi, how do you find them, and what tactics minimize the amount of skill you would personally need to succeed most of the time?
Pffffff weapons? tactics? How amateurish....
You just need to capture said jedi's friends and that will force him to either attempt a rescue or surrender. Just stage the rescue and after the rescue is done it will be a bubble force field trap right at the exit.
Seriously it's easy, I mean they are not really smart...
>>44459910
Addendum: Flood the room with water or drop ion grenades to short circuit their light sabers. Just to be sure.
Spread rumours that I am on the hunt for them and am using a giant freighter as a disguise, and is basically stationed in a vast space of absolutely nothing, not near any other route or plante
Lure them to the freighter, fake my voice using recordings and the audio system and lead them away from their ship
Steal their ship and fly away
There is no fuel in the freighter since it's been emptied intentionally, and it's been rigged with explosives, no escape pods, basically a rigged cage with no escape in the vast open-ness of nothing
Blow it up, but stay close enough to track any survivors if there are anyWhere did I fuck up /tg/
>>44459993
>steal their ship and fly away
Probably there. Depending on the Jedi they might very well be able to just call their own ship and disable it with the force and/or various techniques such as backdoor techniques.
Also the Jedi might not come alone.
1. Find out where he drinks (if he drinks)
2. Poison his drink with enough poison to kill a krate dragon
3. Hope he passes out
4. If he does, blow up the building he is drinking in
I'm sure Jedi also have some magic "poison doesn't hurt me because it was relevant to the plot for it not to this one time" power but if it fails to knock them out, I can just leave. Odds are they aren't gonna track me down.
1: Lure the Jedi onto a specific planet
2: Surprise! It was a trap! Vent the planet's atmosphere.
You may need some specialised tools to do the second step in a timely manner. A death star can usually do the trick.
>>44458661
>Find jedi
>Ask jedi to die
>>44459910
This is what most bounty hunters actually believe.
>>44459993
Jedi'll sense that the ship is empty, Jedi don't have any reason to be so aggressive towards threads, Jedi have danger sense and literal plot armor, and most of all most Jedi aren't stupid enough to fall for obvious traps.
>>44459993
I doubt the Jedi would even show.
Also, you probably will get stuck on the ship with some comic relief character who then is able to prove their capability by thwarting your plans and disabling or minorly injuring you in ways that are incredibly humiliating to you. That is how the Force works.
>>44460062
but what if he says no?
>>44460071
>ask again and say please
geez, it's not that hard guys!
>>44460071
Ask again.
>>44460052
Look at this amateur, using multiple sledgehammers to crack a simple nut.
>>44460088
Hey, buddy, you only need the one death star. That's hardly "multiple sledgehammers".
>>44460066
It totally worked against two professional Jedi. Admittedly it was AFTER they had faced down a Dark Jedi themselves, so they probably were busy patting themselves on the back too much to do anything else.
>>44460066
>>44460121
>>It totally worked against two professional Jedi.
If the clone wars are anything these two were some of the MOST FAMOUS AND SUCCESSFUL jedi in the war.
Then again once they were captured by an insiginficant band of pirates TOGETHER WITH said sith lord to boot. Then handcuffed together for good measure.
Clearly jedi are not very smart...
>say traitor
>do some sick spins
>get shot
Recitation: First, weapon selection is critical. if I see one more idiot attacking a Jedi with a blaster pistol, then I'll kill them myself.
Rhetorical Question: What weapons would I suggest?
Answer: Select grenades, sonic screamers, cluster rockets, and plasma charges. Mines are also effective, since many Jedi will run to meet you in hand to hand combat. Silly Jedi.
Addendum: Gas attacks are effective if you can take the Jedi by surprise. inhalation seems less effective than ones that work on skin contact, as some Jedi seem able to hold their breath for long periods of time.
Cautionary: Still, don't rely on it, since Jedi can fight off the effects, it just distracts them, leaving them open to another avenue of attack.
Recitation: Do not forget to activate any energy shields you possess. Lightsabers, while powerful, have trouble penetrating most military issue energy shields, provided they are energy shields and not those crude Mandalorian Melee shields.
>>44459518
Kyle and Kreia really need to be restored to canon.
>>44460167
Dooku getting captured by randoms was hilarious. He's got every reason to be the most paranoid of twats (even though/especially since he's been consistently the sanest DS adherent in canon) yet got himself caught by basic bitches like them.
>>44458661
Let's ask an expert!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPeI4mX8Nus
I don't need more than this, unless we're talking about a main character jedi, in that case I don't stand a chance.
>>44460183
>>44460286
Thank you.
There ain't enough credit in the galaxy to make that job worthwhile.
Walk away, let someone else get themselves killed.
I know it's been posted already, but it's well worth listening to this every now and then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPeI4mX8Nus
>>44458661
Killing Jedi is simple.
1)Obtain one microwave gun
2)Point microwave gun at Jedi
3)Turn Jedi into goo
The reason why nobody does this in Star Wars is because microwave based weapons would be so fucking OP against infantry it would break the setting.
>>44458661
"Select grenades, sonic screamers, cluster rockets, and plasma charges. Mines are also effective, since many Jedi will run to meet you in hand to hand combat. Silly Jedi."
>>44460643
>The reason why nobody does this in Star Wars is because microwave based weapons would be so fucking OP against infantry it would break the setting
But what if the clone/stormtrooper armor has special science shielding against microwave weapons?
Then again the Geonosian bugs had these sonic weapons which shot a green explosive ball of energy that is supposedly achieve the same thing just in an area effect of rupturing the victom's internal organs by sheer kinetic energy. They cannot be deflected by lightsabers because they just explode on contact with anything. They are also pretty effective against machines.
Then again the since the Disney takeover their canonicity is questionable.
>>44460835
Isn't the new canon now just everything that is the movies?
>>44460853
That and those cgi shows. Unfortunately.
>>44460835
Those are sonic blasters (and yes, they shoot visible balls of energy, but you know, Star Wars science).
Are Jedi immune to fire?
If not, I'd light one on fire.
>>44460884
>Unfortunately
Clones Wars was the shit senpai
>>44461211
We have examples of Jedi being able to stop fire, or get out of the way of fire quickly.
Nuke him from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
>>44461418
Darth Malak tried that too.
It did not work.
>>44459477
This guy is on the right track
1. Dress up in power armor
2. Dual wield concussion rifles
3. Buy droids and make them dual wield concussion rifles
4. Ambush him and wildly fire at him with numerous concussion rifles
5. Concussion rifles
>>44461300
We also had examples of Jedi suddenly moving at FTL speeds to outrun blaster bolts when the plot demands a lazy solution to a problem.
>>44461453
Even Han Solo does that.
>>44458661
An automatic shotgun using titanium pellets wielded by a droid in a crowd and me with sniper support using a long range slug thrower.
>>44461512
Just strap explosives to the droid.
Or the landing pad, or his ship, on the space station he's visiting, house he's in or fuck it, just make sure the guy can never go anywhere without risking getting blown up.
Never actually confront him, just keep trying to blow him up from afar.
>>44461453
Blaster shots go slower by around a factor of 3 than a bullet. Its been stated jedi can't dodge slugs due to their sheer speed and blocking just means they get showered in molten metal at highspeeds like a shaped charge.
>>44458680
That's awesome start for our bounty hunter career. Only way it could've been even better is if we also landed a contract to rescue the knight from the bounty hunters.
>>44461534
That involves going places he'll be going. Strong jedi can sense motive off of linger psychic energy. Snipe from where he'll never visit and send a machine he can't sense with a gun he can't dodge or block and you've won hands down.
>>44459363
Your Culexus is dead.
>>44460643
MASERs exist Anon, they're just rare.
And can be deflected by a lightsaber.
Sufficient firepower from multiple angles is usually enough to overwhelm most Jedi. Thrown explosives are a bad idea since they'll get tossed back at you.
If the Jedi in question is someone the Empire has posted a Bounty on him though, I'm guessing Vader is a bit too busy to take care of him personally.
>>44458661
Iexecute Order 66.
Doesn't HK-47 provide a variety of options on how to kill Jedi?
Shotguns should work pretty well
>>44461812
Yes. it's posted in the thread already
>>44461437
Except not. He shot the bridge of his spaceship, not dropped a nuke that removes any and all life within the 2 kilometer radius.
>>44460183
I'm honestly not sure if it's what you're going for, but this really makes one realise how scary an Elcor bounty hunter/assassin could be. So long as the contract doesn't have a time limit specified, of course
Can someone explain to me how Jango Fett was able to completely ignore a Jedi's ability to deflect blaster bolts, even when the Jedi was facing and aware of him and he was firing only one normal blaster pistol?
Is it possible to be Just That Good that you can fire a blaster and hit against the Jedi's deflection ability.
>>44461709
>Your Culexus is dead.
Because?
If jedi are so dangerous why don't the bad guys just regularly nuke/bomb anywhere a jedi has been sighted?
It's not like bad guys care about civilizan casualities, and there's more than enough habitable space to care about that particular place being livable.
>>44461911
It's not that Jango was that good, non-human Jedi are just shit. Even Wheezcough Evilname killed a bunch of them in the cartoon with no trouble and he was a joke villain.
>>44458792
Kyle Katarn killed legions of enemy. He fought the seven nation army.
>>44461904
That is a word for word quote from HK-47 of KotOR fame.
>>44461911
Jedi deflect blaster bolts by combining lightsaber training with small scale predict the future ability (which they directly gain from how experienced they are/how high their midichlorian count is). I see it as overtime their shot at it's like rolling a dice - they might "see" it in time, they might not. In this case, the first blaster shot got past, injured the jedi, rendering him unable to deflect the ones coming after.
Also it's not really possible to be That Good, as no matter where you shoot the jedi always has a chance of predicting it, and moving to deflect it.
>>44458680
Kill yourself and collect bounty before other bounty hunters. Scrubs never stood a chance.
>>44461536
For fucks sake. Is there anything jedi are GOOD at?
>>44461911
In old Canon Jango Fett was able to kill six Jedi with his bare hands, the fact that he fell like a sack of bricks in the geonosian fight scene was very anticlimactic considering what his character was supposed to be capable of
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jango_Fett/Legends#Leading_the_Mandalorians
"using no weapon beyond his own hands, feet, and armored body, Fett vengefully killed six Jedi,"
>>44461918
Because it loses all its powers and its equipment ceases to function in the Star Wars universe. Duh.
>>44459993
Trying to Con someone who potentially has precognitive capablilities.
Also, they can probably Force Push or Force hold your now stolen ship away from leaving. Size Matters Not.
>>44461536
And where is this stated?
>>44461536
Where has that been stated? Because Blasters are generally acknowledged as being superior than slugthrowers in every way and most Armor is slug proof.
>>44462062
Jengo/Boba wank. God.
>>44462075
>>44462083
You can see blaster bolts fly across the screen.
>>44462062
>In old Canon Jango Fett was able to kill six Jedi with his bare hands
KEK, what in the actual fuck
>>44460183
It's generally good advice except for that bit about grenades. Using a thrown explosive against a person with Telekinesis is just asking to get blown the fuck up. Either when you throw it or when they activate the thing while it's strapped to you.
>>44461911
Most non-named character jedi are total scrub tier.
>>44462115
He threw pocket sand in their eyes and they ended up killing eachother.
>>44462125
>>44461983
Pretty sure that guy was a Jedi Master who thought he would be able to challenge Count Dooku.
>>44462106
That wasn't the part that was said was Stated. It was 'Jedi can't deflect bullets because they are too fast/they'll turn to slag and kill the jedi'
>>44462106
You can also see bullets fly across the screen in most movies that feature guns.
>>44462138
>You can also see bullets fly across the screen in most movies that feature guns.
wat
>>44461911
I think it was because he was a negotiator type, who probably didn't take that light saber out in years.
>>44462142
They also travel slower than sound. You always hear the gunshot then see the bullet impact.
>>44462067
>Because it loses all its powers and its equipment ceases to function in the Star Wars universe.
Because..? Force is actually warp in faraway galaxy (immaterial projection of material world).
>>44461536
>Its been stated jedi can't dodge slugs due to their sheer speed and blocking just means they get showered in molten metal at highspeeds like a shaped charge.
This is a lie, you faggot.
The ONE SINGLE BENNIE a slugthrower has against anyone is that the jedi isn't bouncing that shit back in your face.
>>44461904
thanks for reminding me of the Elcor, I really want to play an elcor character now.
>>44461911
He had thehigher ground.
You know, as off-topic as this is, I kind of liked the Jedi a lot more when they were something closer to the original trilogy. Of course, we never got to see Jedi masters in their prime or anything, but the image the old movies painted of them was a lot more mortal, a lot more modest. They weren't these mighty demigods who fought through whole hordes of droids and blew up spaceships with their minds. Granted, that's the extreme end of the new trilogy and extended universe as well, but still.
I liked the Jedi more as these clever, honed specialists who had fantastic powers and a great deal of honed discipline and skill, but who were still vulnerable to mortal dangers. In my mind, what made them cool was exactly that balance. A Jedi in the right place at the right time could make all the difference, but that right time and place were really required. I liked the image of these smart, clever, wise warrior-mystics who observed until it was time to act, and then achieved their goals through wit as much as violence.
I guess I just liked Star Wars as a more low-key affair, as a whole. Expanded universe and the new trilogy really changed it all.
>>44462163
So where does the slug go?
>>44462155
>Force=Warp
That is retarded as fuck and proof that 40K should never be inserted into other settings because of its cancerous nature and the shittiness of its fans.
>>44462175
Possibly vaporized. Sabers seem to take a saber sized gash out of most things that generally isn't melted on the floor.
>>44462062
Fetts: masturbated to high heavens by fans and extended universe, but fall flat the second they're supposed to do something in the movies.
>>44459363
Not part of the SW universe.
Next.
>>44462182
>That is retarded as fuck
Why? Force and Warp have a same niche in their settings (source of all space magic) and both didn't have straight contradictions between them.
>>44458661
Flashbangs lots of flashbangs and a helmet with a reactive visor and sound nullification so they don't affect me, then when the Jedi is blind and deaf it's flamethrower time.
>>44462281
Force sense. The jedi doesn't need his eyes and ears.
>>44462187
>Possibly vaporized
So you have a cloud of plasma flying around now? Cool.
>>44462297
If it turned everything into a cloud of plasma then it would be unusable as a melee weapon.
It doesn't seem to melt anything save on prolonged contact (Like the blast doors).
Do you have any in-universe statement that it would work like that? Rather than just being eaten up by the lightsaber blade like most things that come in contact?
>>44462163
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/13695/why-would-a-slug-thrower-be-more-effective-against-a-lightsaber-jedi-than-a-blas
>>44462310
Well, it doesn't make any lick of a sense. Wouldn't lightsaber blades become heavy as fuck from all the shit they are eating?
>>44462296
Perhaps but not all Jedi are skilled with all powers and I imagine it is hard to precog what you cant see or hear and you are on fire.
>>44461911
Because Jango's plot power level is higher than that jedi he killed.
That is why Samuel L. Jackson one shot him like a bitch, because Samuel L. Jackson's power level is MAXIMUM!
>>44462326
No, the have very fast metabolism so that they can produce all the energy required for laser blades.
>>44462334
Reflexive force push on your ass as soon as you try to start shit. You're not in the closest wall, at least for long enough to allow him to gather his wits. For a jedi, this takes way less than it does for you.
Threaten to blow up a hospital if the Jedi doesn't turn himself in. Have some goons in suicide vests made to look like body armour arrest him. If he tries to resist, blow them up. If he doesn't resist, take his weapons out of force grabbing range and shoot him with a slug thrower.
>>44462374
"You do not want to blow up the hospital. You want to order your men to stand down and hand their weapons over."
>>44462343
I thought it was because he is black.
>>44462394
You misunderstand. I'm never within shouting distance of the Jedi. To protect the goons I'd also have them wearing ear protectors.
>>44462394
Does the mind trick work over the radio? Or over the mail?
>>44462343
>because Samuel L. Jackson's power level is MAXIMUM!
>>44462417
Its a MIND trick. They force your neurons into cooperation. No actual sound needed but just putting them into susceptible mode then voicing commands is the easiest route.
>>44461536
I though SW slug throwers were gas powered and they didn't have anything as powerful as modern military guns except blasters, which are slow and inaccurate but light weight, possibly nonlethal, and hold a ton of ammo.
I agree that a IRL sniper rifle would easily fuck the dude with a glowing stick and flowing robes from a mile away.
Slugthrower weapons; drugs, lots of drugs; bombs, nets and cortosis weaved shrapnels
>>44462458
Well, unless he predicts it before you fire.
Then your lack of fire rate compared to an assault rifle might fuck you.
>>44462187
Except in TFA where light sabers struggle to make clean cuts at all.
>>44462421
Don't give me that face Samuel L Jackson defeated even Palpatine he was just betrayed by Aninkin that is why he lost.
>>44462168
That jedi should have triedspinning.
>>44462419
>get a holotape in the mail
>pop it open
>weird hippy in robes
>about to throw it away
"You won't throw this away. You want to head down to Zeebox's HoverCar Emporium and buy the new ThunderCougarFalconBird 5000 XL Package for 500,000 creds."
>inexplicable urge that my penis is suddenly too small and i need a car to compensate
>>44462062
I have a feeling I already know who wrote that, but who's the author?
>>44462455
Perhaps have Toydarian goons instead then? I've heard they're resistant.
>>44462465
>>44462465
I think I can change weapons in the time it takes a melee fighter to reach me from a mile away.
>>44462465
He'd have to know shit was coming for him to start combat meditating to start up forcesight to know you shot at him and dodge it. You get one shot before he pushes your shit in.
>>44462468
That's mostly because the only people using them were amateurs, I think.
>>44462486
I hope you have plenty of space shekels then
>>44462486
Droids m8. Droids. Jedi have tough shit sensing a robots motives let alone what they're carrying. Tell him to drop his shit and get escorted then blow up the droids with him. No need to even risk getting anywhere within eye range of him.
>>44458878
If we're going the SWG route we can just focus on our mastery of Teras Kasi and keep his ass on the ground.
>>44462512
Good point.
>>44462507
Okay, final plan.
1) Threaten to blow up a hospital unless the Jedi turns himself in.
2) Rig a couple of cheap droids with explosives and have them take his weapons, if he doesn't resist. Then have them explode.
3) If he does resist, have one explode while the others slug thrower him to death.
>>44462490
It doesn't seem like they need to put effort into having foresight happen. It seems to just be a 'Jedi do this' thing.
>>44462505
I think it implies that trained users enhance their slashes, and all force users in that movie are complete amateurs in fighting - plus all good light saber fighters are dead.
It could be the crystals too
>Remote-detonated explosives
>Flamethrowers
>Anything that can't be deflected/can be used outside of vocal/force-choke range
All those are well and good, but you have to remember that jedi have the annoying habit of picking up new powers as the plot demands.
So really, the only effective weapon you can use against them is the script. Get a copy of the script, read it - thoroughly - and ensure that you are the protagonist and they are not. Otherwise you're fuckeder than fucked.
>>44462417
You're expecting the Jedi, a master of subterfuge and an agent with a lifetime of training in arts both mystic and mundane, to let you dictate what distance you engage him at. He's behind your back right now, having penetrated your defenses unseen.
Now. You want to lay down your weapons and surrender.
>>44462525
And if he doesn't turn himself in because he can be pretty damn sure this is a trap?
>>44462529
It's generally range based, you meditate for a larger range
>>44462542
Where is that stated?
>>44462541
Then he blows up the hospital and realizes that there is now literally nothing preventing the jedi from getting to him.
Hostage situations suck.
Find their friends.
Their comrades.
Their families.
Shatter their resolve.
Make them angry.
>>44462557
Presumably a very vengeful jedi.
>>44462255
I'm not too familiar with the various SW RPGs, but I'm pretty sure none of them have a "Perils of the Force." table.
>>44462360
Jedi precog reactions are fast enough to reflect rather slow blaster rounds if there are not to many, they are not fast enough to prevent the fire on the first place of they were they would on the films.
Therefore the pins get pulled and the flashbangs go off.
>>44462541
Of course it's a trap, but one of the defining characteristics of the Jedi is their willingness to do good. I'm not playing the hero here, they are. If they put their own welfare above that of hundreds of innocents, well, are they really Jedi?
>>44462539
Dead Man's Switch. If he wants to try and mind trick me into shit, he'd better be prepared for there to be consequences.
>>44462559
Why do you think they are trained not to love or hate? They're supposed to have as few ties as possible.
Your plan is to try to anger someone whose whole life revolves around not being angry and who have been trained from childhood to deal with shit like that. Your plan is terrible.
>>44462571
To what, exactly, is your dead man's switch connected? You changing your mind? You not blowing up the hospital?
>>44462536
>So really, the only effective weapon you can use against them is the script. Get a copy of the script, read it - thoroughly - and ensure that you are the protagonist and they are not. Otherwise you're fuckeder than fucked.
This makes me want to play a game where some random Lv.0 mook finds the script and then makes a desperate mad ploy to become the protagonist or something similar so they can stay alive
As for killing Jedi just socially torment them until their fragile egos explode into the next Darth Dongus, the greatest threat to a Jedi is their own sexual frustration and suffocating love for theatrics
>>44462571
>If they put their own welfare above that of hundreds of innocents, well, are they really Jedi?
Depends if they think that you have any chance of holding your end of the bargain. After all, you are an unknown factor that has shown a willingness to kill huge amounts of innocents.
If they think the civilians will die either way, then dying pointlessly won't help.
>Dead Man's Switch. If he wants to try and mind trick me into shit, he'd better be prepared for there to be consequences.
I don't think there is an 'Is mind controlled' dead mans switch.
>>44462586
The Dead Man's Switch is connected to the hospital explosives. You don't hunt Jedi without being fully prepared to follow through on your threats.
>>44458661
A shotgun.
Thats how most people would deal with them.
>>44462603
Yeah, but what's the trigger? The jedi's not going to kill you. He's going to take you in, since you're now mindtricked to shit and can't resist.
>>44462620
>since you're now mindtricked to shit and can't resist.
That jedi is a dick.
>>44462573
To play the doubles advocate, One of the few consistent bits of pottery throughout the series is that Jedi are incredibly shit at following that part, even the ones who are supposed to know better.
>>44462626
He's dick for taking you in nonviolently and through minimal damage to anyone? He's dick for bending the free will of a psychotic would-be mass murderer to neutralize him?
Yeah, terrible. The Jedi loses all his sleep for the rest of his life over this moral violation. Oh gosh.
>>44462637
No, he's a dick for mind-controlling you to soil yourself.
I was making a joke about the phrasing.
>>44462529
Sorry. Its farseeing not forcesight. Anyway its meditation based using calm of mind to receive strong emotions and imagery. The longer you meditate and the calmer you are the better you get at it and the clearer the picture till your spirit pops out of your body. This is why all jedi fights start with a lul before swings as they feel each others future moves out. Forcesight is more like 360 degrees 20/infinity vision used in conjunction with farseeing.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Farsight
It would seem all force abilities like this are passive to a very minor degree but can be honed using focus and calming the mind.
>>44462569
>"Perils of the Force." table.
Yet still jedi will be pretty hard to use force in places where dark side is strong, jedi can even become mad in such places.
>>44462600
>>44462620
Hmm, mind control is always a problem to work around, which is why my plan would have never had me in that situation in the first place. Also, if we're just going by canon the mind trick has never been used as more than a momentary distraction. I'd also say that outright mind control like you're suggesting is more of a Dark Side power.
Okay, assuming a Jedi has gotten close enough to mind trick me I'm pretty fucked. In that case, Toydarian bodyguards with slug throwers should be enough insurance to make it into a Mexican stand-off. I with the DMS, the Toydarians to shoot the Jedi in case I get Mind Tricked and the Jedi being forced into the same situation as he would have been at the start.
>>44462637
You know as well as we do that the Force follows objective morality. Mind control is always part of the Dark Side.
>>44462603
Nigga, if he's got you Mindtricked, all he has to do is tell you to disarm the bomb.
>>44462669
What kind of Dead Man's Switch are you using that is disarmed that easily? Seriously man, are you taking this shit seriously or not?
>>44462659
>Also, if we're just going by canon the mind trick has never been used as more than a momentary distraction.
To quote an actual use of it:
"You want to go home and rethink your life."
>>44462133
Well he thought wrong then, didn't he?
>>44462681
Ah, forgot about that one. Okay, in that case my plan still holds. I'd still rather not give the Jedi the chance to get within Mind Trick range, because that gives up every advantage I have.
>>44462655
Meanwhile, the Warp carries the risk of making a Pysker's head explode.
Its far more volatile and dangerous to the user than the force is to any Sith or Jedi.
They've got some common ground, but they're simply not interchangeable.
>>44462723
Well, to be fair, the Warp was a lot less hostile A Long Time Ago.
Befriend him, try to make him believe that he can snatch me from this life of crime and violence, study him, and then betray him and gas him while he sleeps.
>>44462421
Well, Sheev has UNLIMITED POWEEER, after all.
>>44462255
The Force is not Other or otherworldly.
>>44462419
I bet "distance matters not" along with size.
Also, Vader could force-choke over a video phone.
>>44462698
When Vader wanted to choke a bitch, all he needed was sight of him through a comm link.
Given that he was clearly making an example of him for his extreme fuck up, he might not even have needed that.
>>44462830
Yeah, but that's Vader.
I find this thread's lack of Cortosis weave disturbing.
OP here, should have mentioned that this is all to create a rogue Jedi NPC in saga that my PCs have to get even more creative with, because I'll plan around more common tactics like bombs and slughtrowers. Thanks so much for your help!
>>44462944
Don't need cortosis for shit. Get a long range slugthrower bead, some machines, and some explosives. Why even bother risking your life?
>>44462944
NON CANON
You'll have to settle for TR-8R's holy armaments
>>44460301
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEb4FHmracg&t=6m39s
People say killing Jedi is hard. It's not. You just have to be smart about it. No blasters, no getting close to them, no attacking them directly when you can gun down their allies instead. There's ways of gassing them, drugging them, making them lose control, torturing them.
You can teach yourself... techniques. It's hard for a Jedi to sense what you're really thinking if you throw up walls of strong emotions and feelings. Lust, impatience, cowardice... most Jedi awareness doesn't cruise beyond the surface feelings, to see what's deeper.
>>44462992
>not making a suit of armor out of spinning riot batons
You could even beat that sith with lightsaber knees and lightsaber everything else suit.
>>44462536
Jedi can deflect flamethrowers.
>>44462569
I agree it's dumb to throw warp corollary stuff onto the force, but a setting that marries the two more completely could be very fun.
>>44458661
People always quote HK-47, but Atton also said thinking about other things (such as playing a game of cards in your head) and getting really emotional fucks with a Jedi's ability to read you, even make you undetectable by them.
>>44462992
And magnaguards force pikes, and that animal hide in a recent comic that was impervious to lightsabers.
I use a katana. Even jedi cannot resist its killing power.
>>44458661
Delayed onset poison.
Like, an hour or three, at least.
>>44458661
A squad of droids with automatic shotguns and rifles. Not those pencil-necked federation cans either. Slug-throwers, all sides. Each droid is rigged to blow when someone cuts into it. Give them some exploding bullets for good measure.
Can't spin or mind-fuck your way past that, ya self-righteous glowy shit.
>>44463211
They'll go all Neo on you, ya dope.
>>44463222
Neo got hit after dodging the third or fourth bullet. From a single, non-automatic weapon.
Also, I'm pretty sure Jedi can't dodge bullets. That's why they deflect blaster shots in the first place. And why their sword-fights move slowly enough for the audience to understand what's happening.
>>44463089
The Godzilla thing that Sheev had cloned was also impervious, IIRC
>>44463283
>>44463222
They can't dodge bullets, but they can dodge the guy holding the gun
>>44463283
>>44463338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guVAeFs5XwE
>>44463211
Want to know what else Jedi are good at?
Leaving.
He doesn't HAVE to fight you, he just has to get AWAY from you.
Chainsword + Bolter and screaming For the emperor!
>>44463446
Then the droids start killing civilians until the jedi stops them.
>>44463446
Forfeit the crowds lives? Forfeit the hospitals lives? All those mothers, fathers, and children? All that death just to save their own life? That would go entirely against the jedi code of seflessness.
>>44463408
I'll concede the point if it's SW canon and works on slug-throwers.
>>44463446
>jedi tries to run away with his tail between his legs
Even main-character jedi fall into traps now and then, and they're rarely shy about being outnumbered. They might not even realize the droids are using slug-throwers until it's too late. Baiting jedi into bad situations is hardly unprecedented.
>>44462992
The Darth Plageius novel was re-canonized via Tarkin, and it mentioned cortosis weave.
>>44463677
>relying on your enemy to be dumb as a bag of rocks
You haven't been a bounty hunter for very long, have you?
>>44458661
Droids to spy on him.
Fire. Endless torrents of fire.
Deflect that, asshole.
>>44463947
>Endless torrents of fire.
worked for, well, damn near all the jedi.
>>44462343
Quick, someone post a webm from the 2d clone wars where Windu single handedly destroys an army of droids HnK style.
>>44462476
He tried to cleave the Sheev, m80.
You can't cleave the Sheev.
>>44462559
Congratulations, you gave them a brief amount of sorrow. Now they shall turn thier sorrow into thier strength.
Congrats, you dun fucked up, generic villian #6724
Easy. First, I hire an assassin who can shapeshift. Then I buy some poisonous space bugs. Then I give this assassin the space bugs and tell them to buy a droid which will put the space bugs in the jedi's room then, when discovered, the droid will run back to the assassin's position for no reason rather than self destruct or something. The jedi will no doubt sense the bugs coming and deal with them accordingly. After that, the jedi will see the flying droid and give chase. Maybe he'll jump onto it or maybe he'll get into his car and follow it, that part isn't important. Anyways, so the jedi will find his way back to the assassin I hired to kill him. The shapeshifting assassin will then, rather than run away, try to engage the jedi in close quarters combat. This is where the plan all comes together, ensuring my collection of this bounty. The jedi will defeat the assassin I've hired and I, from a distance, will shoot the assassin I've hired before he can get any information out of them. I'll probably shoot from the top of a building or something cool like that. The jedi will be so overwhelmed from all the steps I've taken to kill him that he'll realize I'm on some next level shit here and he'll surrender accordingly.
>>44464119
>>44464119
And whst do you do if they don't surrender accordingly, invite them into your home, try to get your son to help shoot them, then let them tail you?
>>44464434
Only a fool wouldn't.
>>44464119
Now post the good friend cap
>>44464502
Right? Bounty hunting, trophy hunting, and fathering all rolled into one. Its the peak of efficiency and badassery. Plus your kids gonna think you're so cool he'll grow up to be just like you.
>>44459518
That's a low blow anon.
>>44461748
No anon, that's not a true, pure microwave weapon. I mean simply using a wide beam microwave emitter, something similar to our modern area denial weapon but built for lethal use, and hand held. You're basically using a flamethrower for all intents and purposes, but it's instant, can't be dodged, and will kill everything not wearing heavily insulated armor that can keep the wearer from being cooked.
Like I said, Star Wars doesn't have a pure microwave weapon, just MASERs, because a microwave widebeam raygun would break everything and make shit like Jedi irrelevant.
>>44460835
Plastoid wouldn't stop a microwave weapon, or at least not for very long. The shit gets fried by flamethrowers, and the coverage isn't complete. The bodysuit is exposed and would melt, fusing with the flesh under it and generally doing horrible things. You'd need 100% coverage of ceramic armor to absorb the heat without killing you. No gaps could be afforded.
>>44461889
What about the time he had an entire planet bombed to shit to try and kill a jedi?
>>44465319
So basically you only way of doing it would to just introduce a technology that breaks the setting. Why don't you just try magic or nukes?
>>44465627
Darth Malak was not a clever man
>>44462505
And the competent one wonded...
>>44465849
Because dropping a nuke isn't as fun as watching Jedi scum squirm and pop like a blister from a heat wave.
>>44461911
That guy had just jumped down and was about to strike Dooku when Jango clipped him with his first shot. Thrown off from that Jango was able to finish him off before he recovered
I'm imagining a Wiley Coyote cartoon except HK-47 it the Coyote and a Jedi is the Road Runner.
>>44459477
>>44461440
Assuming the Conc rifles are working on Jedi Knight/MotS rules rather than JO/JA rules.
>>44462175
>>44462187
>>44462297
Vented up the tip of the saber like force lightning is.
>>44461536
They go about the speed of an M2 BMG tracer round.
>>44462062
>>44462115
>>44462130
>>44462483
I think that's what happened after the Jedi got tricked into wiping out his mostly decent Mercenary force by Deathwatch.
It left them demoralized and they were desperate to take SOMEONE alive at the end.
>>44462559
Because having Dark Jedi Gatsu after my head is such a wonderful idea!
>>44460178
Pretty good plan. Can't say there's any big glaring flaws in it.
>>44466461
...that actually is a good idea how big do lightsabers get?
>>44463492
You fail to even exist in the same universe. Congrats, few others here have managed to fuck up that bad.
>>44458661
>Sniping
>High explosives in their home
>Sedatives(gaseous)
>Grenade launcher w/ cryo grenades
>Missile strike from a starfighter
>Flamethrowers
>Send a wounded innocent at them with a remote detonator(pull the trigger as soon as the jedi goes to help them)
>>44466988
>reminder that gargantuan lightsabers in saga edition are easily man-portable
>>44463909
>The Darth Plageius novel was re-canonized
No, it wasn't. Just because it was written by the same guy and contains similar things, Tarkin does not make it canon again.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis_%28novel%29
See that thing in the upper corner? Legends?
>But if it's not contradicted, it's canon
No, Anon, no it isn't. It's LEGENDS. It's NON-CANON. All reprinted copies are printed under the LEGENDS brand. Under the NON-CANON brand. Everything that happened in the novel DID NOT actually happen.
I know this can be difficult to accept, but I encourage you to look again:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis_%28novel%29
Upper right. "Legends"
It's there and it's never going away.
>>44466988
Man I could have sworn I'd saved some images from that one thread where people were posting photoshops of the TFA trailer where Ren ignites his saber, but can't find a single one in my pictures folder.
>>44466988
>>44467308
>katana
>gunblade
>ninja star
Shit son
>>44466115
>ow, the edge.jpg
Sorry, you're not worth switching hard drives for the image.
>>44463909
>>44462992
Cortosis was in Dawn of Rebellion, but only showed anti-blaster conductivity (Which was much closer to Legends Ultrachrome than legends Cortosis.)
The only parts of Plagueis I can remember being recanonized is Sheev having a droid with the same role and designation as Plagueis's research droid.
Also they recanonized Iceheart's dad while simultaneously refusing to use the reboot as a chance to make Yularen into a Grand Admiral instead of the weird EU history where he quit the navy to join the ISB.
Also they totally destroyed the competition the Legends EU had between Imperial Intelligence and COMPNOR's ISB by making Daddy Isard head of COMPNOR instead of ImpInt.
>>44458737
>midichlorians
Get out of here with those fringe heretical beliefs.
>>44467738
>doesn't understand the midichlorians
>>44468113
No midichlorians
I take up other jobs for a few years, bide my time and amass my fortune. Soon I will have the 4 billion in credits I need to buy the brand and retcon the jedi into being Legends canon. Therefore dead for all intents and purposes.
>>44467308
That green one cannot possibly have the power to stay on for more than 2 minutes.
>>44458661
Go for Ultra Hard mode and hunt the sith
>>44467287
Aha, managed to find it.
>>44469437
Okay honestly I like that better than the real thing.
>>44469437
HNNNNGGGGG
>>44467201
please show me where in the rulebook this is, i need to make dark jedi gattsu and griffsith
>>44469437
why in gods name
>>44458695
i kek'd
>>44464119
I thought I was done being pissed off at this. I was wrong. Fucking... Of all the things you could do with a hovering droid with a perfectly silent glass cutter, a shape shifting assassin with a sniper rifle, two deadly space bugs, and a poison dart of instant death, that's got to be the worst plan imaginable.
>>44470349
Remember, anon, he was ultimately being hired by Palpatine, who ultimately wanted to use Padme to get to Anakin. Actually killing her would ruin the plan. Jango fucked up that job on purpose, at the explicit request of his employer. I bet those bugs weren't even venomous.
