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>>44392028
As a thought experiment, I once dug through all the books to see how many things I could replace with Use the Force.
Core Book
Force Persuasion - Persuasion - Jedi talent
Force Intuition - Initiative - Jedi talent
Force Perception - Perception - Force talent (avoid surprise, notice enemies, sense deception, sense influence)
Force Pilot - Pilot - Force talent
Force Treatment - Treat Injury - Force Adept talent
Force Deception - Deception - Sith Apprentice talent
Jedi Academy
Instinctive Navigation - Use Computer - Force talent (astrogation, sensor operation)
White Current Adept - Stealth - White Current Adept talent
Fluidity - Acrobatics - Shapers of Kro Var talent
Clone Wars
Insight of the Force - Knowledge - Jedi Knight talent (untrained knowledges only)
Jedi 7/Jedi Knight 1/Sith Apprentice 5/Force Adept 1/Sith Lord 3
Note: Build assumes the terrible default rule of "if you stop being a sith all your sith talents stop working", if said rule is not enforced, Sith Lord can be replaced with Jedi Master or Force Disciple
>>44391861
>Separatist holdouts or sleeper cells that don't know the war ended.
>Floating capital ships that were crippled by the war, with weird clone experiments roaming the decks.
>Sith artifacts slowly corrupting what was once a Republic medical base.
>A shipment of experimental, extremely powerful but unstable weaponry created by Sep R&D in the last days of the war.
>A Separatist war criminal with a large bounty on his head, who offers to trade the locations of Separatist materiel storage for his freedom.
>A cargo cult on a backwater Outer Rim world that worships offworlders, particularly battle droids, and has a temple consisting of a derelict MTT.
>A Sienar Fleet Systems research base, testing designs for the TIE series of fighters.
>Defective clone soldiers in a drifting, battle-damaged ARC-170. They appeal to the PCs for help.
>>44392215
ty mate
>>44392215
This is pretty much why Saga sucks. "Welp force powers are already way more effective than other combat options, so lets make it so you can replace almost every skill with use the force so you don't need those muggle fags for pesky skills either"
Star Wars stuff is on sale on Steam right now
If you can't find your old copy of Jedi Academy, go buy a new one
>>44392263
I'm having a similar problem in my EotE/FaD campaign. One Force-sensitive on the lam hired a smuggler and bounty hunter to help her get to Taris, where she believes a Jedi Master in hiding can train her.
The party will get to Taris in a couple sessions and so far my plan is for the local Hutt lord to secretly impound their stolen ship, and when they go looking for a way to get it back, he'll force them into a bounty to repay him. The bounty will be on a Jedi who cheated him during the Clone Wars, and they'll have other bounty hunters to compete with.
How do I make actually finding their mark and master a process instead of just "okay, so you look and find him but here's a combat with another hunter"? I've only GM'd a couple times before.
>>44392479
As an addendum to this, Dark Forces II and Mysteries of the Sith do not work on Steam. Do not buy them, the port is crap and they crash constantly. The GOG versions work for me, however.
>>44392651
>How do I make actually finding their mark and master a process instead of just "okay, so you look and find him but here's a combat with another hunter"? I've only GM'd a couple times before.
Have them find clues and rumors of his last known location, then make something interesting happens when they get there, that gives them the next clue...
Jedi are tricky and have ways. If he does not want to be found, he won't be easy to find, if he doesn't fuck off to an uncharted planet like Luke.
>>44392263
I like these ideas; I am also thinking of the PC ship stumbling upon an Imperial fleet action against a holdout, featuring an ISD.
They drop out of hyperspace, near the crossfire, Imperial comms order them to heave to, while the Sep holdout blasts propaganda.
>>44392651
Perhaps have the search go global, asking the locals, doing favours to get their assistance (while proving to the Jedi the party aren't complete murderhobos).
Oh goodie, I missed two entire threads of bullshit after I had my post-Christmas Odinsleep. Also, hello Roshfan.
I have a question for y'all: if Anakin built C-3PO out of scrap and spare parts, why does he directly map to a mass-produced protocol droid model?
>>44393074
He didn't build him from nothing.
He found a busted protocol droid in the scrapyard, Watto let him keep it, and he fixed him up and got him working.
>>44393135
I'll accept that.
>>44392185
Have we talked about the Strongholds scan being up on KAT?
It was a Life Day miracle.
>>44393297
Hey quest, I found you something interesting...
A fanfic.... Featuring THE Jedi Prince, Ken.
Here's the link:
https://fanfiction.net/s/11671703/1/Star-Wars-Dark-Mirror
>>44392185
YES! YEEEESSSSSSSSS!
>>44393358
Kinda; some anon said how he uploaded the scan, to I think a Mega folder, "in exchange" for Mask of the Pirate Queen and Keeping the Peace scans. But it was an obvious sign that scanner had finished Strongholds and it was up on torrents at that point.
>>44392215
Shame you'll be pretty much useless at anything by putting all your talents into that instead of something useful. I remember this build cropping up on discussion on rpgnet, way back.
>>44393381
I'm only getting an error when I try to use that link.
Questanon, if you were to make Ultron as the inhabitant/creation of a Junkplanet, what parts would you make him out of?
How do you guys design your lightsaber hilts? Do you model them after preexisting ones? Do you cobble together random bits of starwars tech? Do you wing it?
Trying to figure out a design for my bounty hunter pilot.
>>44393600
That's easy: rust.
>>44393601
Nearest hardware store, yo.
>>44393563
Fuck, OK. Here's a mobile link
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/11671703/1/Star-Wars-Dark-Mirror
>>44393692
Ah. I see what's missing. You dropped www.
>>44393638
>That's easy: rust.
But which Droid parts, that's what I meant? I Mean, his brain is made of smashed together droid personalities, so he's gonna be a bit cuckoo
>>44393724
I don't get why you're asking me, but I'd have to say 'anything I can find'. So he could slice, dice, buff, weld, cook, clean, fold, wash, do my taxes, and julienne fries.
Your one-stop-shop for a do-it-all droid.
Threadly reminder that if you didn't play Jaden Korr as a Kel-Dor with maxed force lighting you're a massive nerf herder.
>>44393820
>Jaden Korr
That is not how you spell Dorr Ladar
>>44392435
Doomed romantic entanglement with Mark Hamill. Emo breakdown and conversion to dark side, etc
>>44393820
>implying female Twi-lek isn't best Jaden
>>44393074
Why don't you like torpedo sphere discussion?
I moved to a new city and found the local x-wing guys. After playing a few games with various people they apparently don't like that I keep winning. I'm not really a hardcore player or anything but apparently they think I'm tourneyfag mcfuckface or something with my super l33t HWK-290 lists and my crazy naked defender bullshit. Clearly I'm the greatest faggot of all time. Not sure if I need to play like I'm retarded to fit in better or just hammer their asses flat at their winter kit tourney this weekend.
>>44393995
You could try talking to them. Teach them how to play the game.
Being a big fish in a small pond may be fine for store champs and kit nights, but it'll make you easy prey when the ghost-faced killers come from out of town.
>>44393995
Hammer their asses flat, but give tips and explain why the things you're doing are good. Teach the young padawanfags the ways of the miniatures.
>>44393995
Build a different list and push their shit in.
Then swap armies with them and push their shit in.
Show them that they're weak, and put them on the path to the dark side.
>>44393995
At the tourney, you do you. Win that shit.
In casual play, have them build your list a few times. Then shove their shit in and let them know that you're not a tourneyfag, they're just bad.
>>44393995
It sounds like sour grapes.
Throw something funny at them in the Winter Tourney, if you win with it then it shows that their ship-fu is weak.
>>44393995
>super l33t HWK-290 lists and my crazy naked defender bullshit
yeah, no, they're either retarded, or you'd be good no matter the list
Argument over the outcome aside, what did everyone think of the actual choreography/style of the duel at the end of TFA? I really liked Kylo Ren's heavy, almost medieval style, I think mores than any other person in the franchise.
>>44393985
I was tempted to run around as an underwear twilek slut but I take my Jedi duties to seriously. Male human Jaden > all, bonus points for a single, blue lightsaber at the end.
>>44393995
Maybe just throw the odd match, but maintain your place at the top?
>>44393991
I honestly skipped past it.
>>44393692
Jesus christ what the shit is this.
Unless I'm being an idiot, is there nothing for Lightsaber fighting styles in Force and Destiny?
I'm seeing in character creation specialisations references to unique styles of combat (very defensive ones spring to mind), but there's nothing in the talents chapter or anything? Are they Specialisations only?
>>44394060
don't knock the hwk
>>44394074
>Argument over the outcome aside, what did everyone think of the actual choreography/style of the duel at the end of TFA? I really liked Kylo Ren's heavy, almost medieval style, I think mores than any other person in the franchise.
You can really tell his training is shit by the way he fights and how the girl beats him in the mind duel despite only just then coming into her power.
>>44393995
Could tone down their lists, or build your own list and switch players so you're playing them. Give them tips, and advice, raise them to your level and stay level-headed, courteous, and likeable. Hard to stay mad at a good player who helps you and shows you how to be better. But don't butt into other people's games, compliment your opponent's game and tell them how they can improve.
And if it's in the budget, bring a few snacks or drinks to share. Even if you win every game, your opponent gets a free root beer or something out of the deal. Though that's basically bribery. Sweet bribery.
>>44394116
Oh, I'm just bitter that it's become a "shoot the HWK first" thing with my locals.just bought a second because Boxing Day, 1 HWK is a target, 2 HWKs are a hard choice
>>44394074
The first part of the duel was solid. I dug it.
It lost me when raybans started fighting, since it was mostly her running away and jump cuts to other scenes.
>>44394083
>Jesus christ what the shit is this.
Based on your response, exactly what I hoped it would be
>>44394096
It's the specializations and their characteristic-based talents. So the main things that make Niman Disciple are the Niman Technique to let you use Willpower, Draw Closer to use Force Points to get extra Success, and Force Assault to use Force Move if you fucked your roll; all of which is tied to using Willpower so they can't be used with other forms/characteristics. Everything else in the tree is more of just universal lightsaber stuff that applies to general stuff or all lightsaber combat, regardless of form.
>>44394074
>picking light side ending
>ever
>>44394096
Yes, they're just specializations.
>>44394180
>fighting Mandalore the Bearded
>ever
>>44393995
Keep making fun lists and keep pushing their shit in. They can't call you a tourney fag if your list keeps changing.
I run rogue squadron for fun and Sony no way anyone gonna say I'm being a try hard using genetic x wings.
>>44394029
>>44394041
I'm trying this a little. The newer guys are eager to learn but the 'leaders' are really looking to give advice and not to take it., Then they get mega-salty when their awesome list gets wrecked.
>>44394060
They keep referencing my dice, which have not in any way been modified ever. Last time I was up there I played against a TIE swarm, explained what I was doing (luring them into the asteroids to split them up and pick them off), did so, and then won without losing a ship. Then another player, having watched the first game and keenly aware of what went wrong proceeded to build a 'better' swarm, do the same thing and get wrecked without taking a ship. And then blamed the dice.
>>44394197
>not wanting the greatest challenge of all
The path to true strength has been denied for you
>>44393820
Who's Jaden Korr?
try not to rage
>>44394074
>not playing a Lethan Twi'lek covered in tats and barely wearing anything with a supremely acrobatic fighting style
>not playing her as a kind, honest, and caring person who just happens to look like some crazy dominatrix due to her childhood being raised to be a pit fighting slave on some awful backwater before she was rescued by a Jedi and trained in the ways of the Force
>not having her be adorably awkward about her crush on that one cute New Republic fighter ace
>>44394180
>picking the dark side ending
>letting kyle and luke down
>>44394118
His profile almost exemplifies his scrawniness, his oddly pinched waist and thin arms. He's gangly.
The lightsaber fight at the end was intense, though. Fucking panting and shit, you could tell that fighting like this takes a lot out of you, it's an ordeal and it feels intense. And then him hitting his side for pain, keeping himself awake and driven by that.
Kylo is a piece of shit emo, a human disaster like his grandfather before him, but he's kind of scary because it makes him volatile, unpredictable, prone to tantrums and the need to prove himself, taking out his internal struggles on the world around him.
Darth Vader was in control, he only choked people who failed him or directly insulted or questioned his authority. He was confident in his power and position and shrugged off the insults or yammerings of captives and Bounty Hunters alike. Kylo throws tantrums and breaks things or chokes people.
>>44394230
Why would I get mad at something where the main gimmick of it is only used by the shittiest fighters?
>>44394240
>letting Rosh survive
What greater disappointment could there be?
>>44394210
Trade dice with them for a few games?
>>44394146
I always like introducing Palob or Jan to my friends. Because that's the last time they underestimate what HWKs do, and I can't get away with them anymore after that first game.
>>44393820
Mah Sleemo
Seriously, was playing Jaden as a Kel Dor and God, Maxed Force Lightning is amazing.
>>44394221
noncanon
just like Katarn and Thrawn
>>44394252
Anakin and Kylo were both emo keeds, I wonder if Kylo will grow up like Anakin did to become Vader.
>>44394210
Use their dice if they complain about yours. Try wildly different playstyles so they can't say you're using op shit or whatever.
>>44394269
Man, the feeling of walking into a room of Stormies and just flashing a burst of lightning, sending them all flying across the room was absolutely amazing.
Same with force choke tossing a high level dark jedi off a bridge.
>>44394269
Wait, what
Is picking a different species influences your powers?
>>44394297
What game?
>>44394348
jedi academy, you pleb
>>44394348
Jedi Academy.
>>44394321
It doesn't, but I didn't want to be a human or a Rodian so I went Kel Dor.
>>44394317
Heal and Lightning are the only powers worth taking in my opinion. Maybe I'll try Grip out next.
Also, Dual Sabers is best.
>>44394256
Luke has an odd opinion on redemption and good jedi candidates. See Darth Vader, killer of younglings, and Kyp Durron, killer of star systems.
Where would you fit the T-70 in Legends continuity? Same with all the other TFA ships.
I'd probably put it as a bridge between the T-65 and the XJ line. Meanwhile the Finalizer would be some Moff's personal battlecruiser. The TIE/fo and TIE/sf would probably be early Pellaeon Imperial Remnant fighters.
I'm planning on running a Commando/ARC Trooper focused game and I was wondering what level a rookie Commando Squad would be in SAGA and what kind of stats I could give the Katarn Pattern armor.
>>44394382
Grip is hilarious if you can get the hang of snapping it 45 degrees up-left or up-right really fast, you can toss Reborn so that the game autokills them.
>>44394374
>>44394376
Oh. Sorry.
>>44394074
>being this whitebread
>>44394168
Star Wars: Dark Mirror
>Summary: (Rewriting of Star Wars: The True Faces of Heroes) 7 ABY. Luke Skywalker is a PTSD-stricken veteran, living with his adopted son Ken. He wants nothing more than to live out his days away from the Galactic Civil War. But when an old enemy comes back and Luke is forced to confront the darkest part of his soul, will he come back unscathed, even with an unexpected help?
>Hurt/Comfort/Mystery
>2 chapters
>D. The Wanderer's Author Rant
>Countless stories have been told about the heroes of the Star Wars Universe, both the Canon and the Legends one. As a great Legends fan, I felt the need of keeping the torch of the EU fire burning, despite it being basically written off as a "separate but equally valid continuity" (Much like the Doctor Who Virgin New & Missing Adventures, which were however written by former DW scriptwriters and directors). I am also sad because of how quickly the character of Ken (goody-two-shoes grandson of Palpatine which befriended Luke in a forgotten book series) was forgotten by the EU people themselves, despite having so much potential.
>Just to clarify, this isn't a story about the lesser known characters of Star Wars being turned into heroes. It's about the heroes of Star Wars themselves being brought down from their pedestals-and portrayed as normal people, with extraordinary qualities, of course, but still with the anguishes, doubts, regrets and fears of normal people. Prepare to see a PTSD-afflicted Luke Skywalker, a Vietnam-veteran-like Rogue Squadron, a more politician-like and pragmatical leia Organa, an edgier, more rugged Han Solo, a harsher but more fragile Mara Jade, and a more vengeful and bloodthirsty Lumiya.
>My rather ambitious task having been presented, enjoy its prologue.
Ugh. (cont)
>>44394230
Where does the other end of he twirly bit come from? Or does it just fold?
>>44394434
Vader is his FATHER and Kyp is a poorly-written author fiat.
Hey guys what's the current status with the XWM damage decks. Is it ok to use the older one
>>44394434
It's not that odd.
Good or evil, Light or Dark, in Star Wars isn't some ean counting "points" system like in a video game.
It's about choice.
Vader was redeemed because in that moment, he saw what he had spent the last ~20 years of his life doing, felt true remorse, and chose to not be that person anymore. He rejected the Dark and set out to make things right. Should that choice be invalidated simply because he died in the process of trying to make things right before he could accrue enough points to get to the other end of some bullshit bioware "morality bar"?
Kyp is a result of later writers deciding to make him STILL a cunt instead of writing him as a remorseful man trying to make up for what he did.
>>44394509
Yes, they changed their mind, either is okay to use.
Though I think they might still be going ahead with Worlds using only the new ones, but them handing out decks to everyone who participates - if that matters.
>>44394435
Competing design in the development program that produced the T65XJ series.
XJ won, so the T-70 became an oddity with a few fans here and there, like the General Galaxy YF-21.
>>44394509
>Hey guys what's the current status with the XWM damage decks. Is it ok to use the older one
It is, but expect to have people roll their eyes at you if you use it with the Falcon.
>>44394305
They're both emo kids, but of different stripes.
Anakin was stricken by an impotence he felt because he was restrained by the Jedi. He was quite powerful, though.
Kylo feels impotence in his own power, but seems to have a lot more free reign than Anakin ever did.
>>44394547
What about this thing? Late Empire/early Remnant design that never caught on for budget reasons aside from as a personal battlecruiser of some Moff?
Maybe a post-Vong War design that was considered overbudget and passed over for the smaller but more effective Pellaeon-class?
>>44394230
It's explanation is a crutch for people who aren't that great with lightsabers. Not much to be mad at there.
>>44394438
I loved that. Cuts the crap with the tedious saber or power fights in one swift snap of the mouse. Well, only in place with enough height to have them fall to their deaths without hitting something they could jump off of on the way down.
>>44394470
>>44394470
Alright, let's talk about this author's note before we discuss the two chapters of this.
First, that is not how you use the word 'pragmatical'.
Second 'felt the need of keeping the torch of the EU fire burning' while admirable, I think that fandom would be a better place if enough people would actually WAKE UP and realize that guess what? YOU. DON'T. OWN. STAR. WARS. AND. YOU. NEVER. DID. Having a sense of love for Star Wars and all its forms is great, but this.... obsession with the idea that Disney killed Star Wars is odd. Disney didn't kill Star Wars (yet), but they did buy the freehold. The EU got tossed out the door but you need to recognize that the stories that matter, the stories we LOVE are still there in our hearts and no movie, no book, no comic, no press release will EVER take away the magic we feel when we experience them.
Third: Ken Palpatine is from a forgotten book series for a REASON. They are objectively terrible and me loving them doesn't stop me from admitting that. Saying that it shouldn't have been forgotten is like saying Darksaber or Crystal Star shouldn't have been forgotten. (Spoilers, they absolutely should have to the point of never having been written along with Children of the Jedi)
Fourth: It's the LATER EU that puts the characters of Star Wars up onto pedestals and only the better writers refuse to do that. Zahn's Luke is a Jedi Knight who knows enough to know that he knows nothing. Hard won wisdom over a compassionate farmboy turned soldier turned Jedi. Allston's Wedge is a TERRIFIC pilot but also has his own problems, including ego and stubbornness that serves him well but gets him into problems. Leia Organa Solo is an increasingly frazzled politician who can't stop when people need her even if the people who need her most are her family. Han Solo is a smuggler turned General who has grown from a selfish man into a true hero with the tactical know-how that might rival Ackbar's.
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>>44394602
Honestly with that front that looks unfinished it looks like something quickly cobbled together in the last few months before the Empire's retreat from KDY. An Ugly-fied Alleigence-class maybe.
What's the Star Wars equivalent of a Monitor ship?
Something hopelessly and pointlessly overgunned for its size.
Pls no Star Crusher.
>>44394625
If you toss them hard or fast enough, the game just kills them when they hit something or go too far into the air.
You can actually get kills (or serious damage at least) by tossing straight up in open areas.
>>44394623
its to teach the inquisitors to rely on flawed technology crippling their abilities and growthand making them easy strike down if need be
>>44394670
I've done that, too. Though if they're high enough level they can tank the fall without any damage. Damn enemies getting levels in jump alongside you...
>>44394602
The pet project of some sithhead warlord who decided to break away from the Fel Empire because they wouldn't let him pull his favorite bullshit. It was supposed to be a full double decker, but an impending attack on the shipyard forced them to get underway with only half a top deck.
>>44394653
TIE Experimental Mk1
>>44394653
the missile boat
>>44394653
>>44394701
>>44394706
Bizarro-mind.
Repostan. Might get some more and more interesting discussion
The First Order has put you in charge of a program to replace the TIE and TIE Bomber with a multirole fighter
What hard qualities (firepower, speed, armor/shields) does your prototype emphasize?
What handling qualities are must important for winning a dogfight?
What ergonomic decisions improve the pilot's performance?
How cool does it look? (Very important for sales success)
>>44394602
It looks like it was two star destroyers fused together. Maybe a salvage effort by a warlord trying to get more out of two derelicts?
>>44394524
>>44394470
I apologize for youngling posting, have some blue milk for your troubles.
[spiler]I'm still bitter about the jovial Jacen of puns and Tenel Ka persistence being light and dark moralitied so hard it ruined the galaxy.
>>44394725
>a program to replace the TIE and TIE Bomber with a multirole fighter
ain't that the defender, basically
>>44394653
>>44394705
Nah, that's the same design ethos as the IJN torpedo cruisers. It'd be a sound design so long as the enemy fails to detect it before it enters engagement range, but radar and scout planes prevented that from being the case.
You'd have an easier time with that kind of thing in space, especially if they could warp in with a hyperdrive, launch their payload and disappear again.
>>44394732
What are you talking about?
After the Vong War, Jacen settled down to be Watchman of the Hapes Cluster and the galaxy's greatest dad. He never took an apprentice due to his own uncertainties after his experience on Yuuzhan-tar, but he served as the Royal Advisor on all Force related affairs.
He died peacefully at a ripe old age, surrounded by friends and family, while making the love of his life groan at a terrible pun one last time.
Legacy of the Force never haopened.
>>44394725
Preybird
Defender if it's financially viable
Or just make assault gunboats the X wings of the Empire. Should be absolutely murderous
>>44394538
>>44394573
Thanks. Just getting into this so wasn't sure.
Do both players pull from the same deck? If not, if I get one of each core set, will it still be reasonably equal if each player is using a different one?
>>44394725
Is the Empire actually giving money for shields and a hyperspace drive? I'd probably take a gunboat as a template and see what I could do about decreasing weight trying to find a balance between speed and firepower, removing ion and upgrading the powerplant as necessary. It's airframe would arguably let it handle it atmo better than Ties as well. Starwings are sexy as fuck.
That or see what I could do about missile bays on shielded interceptors.
>>44394732
Apparently I'm bitter enough to not type 'o's in spoilers.
>>44394632
Fourth: (continued) Mara Jade is someone who survived close contact with the Emperor for almost two decades. If anything, she's made of the same stuff that the Suncrusher is to have come out of that with only intimacy and trust issues and that compulsion to KILL LUKE SKYWALKER. She's a survivor and you making her a broken bird is a disservice to her and anyone else who has escaped an abusive situation and lived on.
Fifth: "PTSD-afflicted Luke Skywalker" ..... Have you like..... ever experienced Star Wars? Obviously PTSD happens HERE, but does it happen THERE? If anything, Luke should have PTSD because of Bespin and Endor. That's got to be fucking SUPER-trauma to be beaten up by a man who turns out to be you father, almost kill him after he threatens your sister, and almost get electrocuted to death by HATE BEAMS.
Sixth: Ambitious, I will grant you. But I wonder if you have the drive to see it through. Lord knows I wish I did.
Next post I will actually talk about the damn story and not just a three post counter-rant.
Jedi are attuned to the Force.
The Force embraces all living things.
Droids are not living things.
Therefore, the Force does not embrace droids.
Therefore, Jedi do not trust droids.
Is there a flaw in this logic?
>>44394907
Joruus c'boath, is that you?
>>44394907
>Therefore, the Force does not embrace droids.
>Forgetting Skippy, the true savior of the galaxy
>>44394933
Joruus is a mad clone. His arguments are invalid.
>>44394760
Or the Hunter
>>44394907
It'd be like not trusting rocks or space ships or your own lightsabers or something. That's your second leap of logic. Your first is pulling "embrace," whatever the fuck that means, out of your ass.
>>44394725
BVR capability
Like, really guys? We're still dogfighting after THIRTY YEARS of galactic civil war?
>>44394951
gay
>>44393773
...You do realize Ultron is actually the planet, right? the droid is just a shell made of two photoreceptors, some things to move it around and a vocoder, oh, and scrap.
>>44394827
Each player needs their own damage deck.
It's not a big deal if one player is using the old one and one is using the new one.
>>44394958
Exactly, and he had the exact same insane attitude as the logic anon is writing
>>44394808
Wouldn't it be pretty to think so?
>>44395009
Frigging biochauvanists keeping good droids down.
>>44394792
Two things:
What's with CGI series and sticking bubble cockpits on EVERYTHING.
Why did the show runners felt the need of putting a death star laser on it? Wouldn't it have been enough to ionize the big ship or launch a barrage of missiles at it?
FUG! I'm going to have TIE interceptors with death star lasers on my tabletop RPG, if anyone should have that shit it should be the empire.
>>44394808
What are these "Yuuzhan Vong" you speak of? I acknowledge no such thing.
>>44394873
>7 ABY (7 years After the Battle of Yavin)
For someone supposedly keeping the fire of the EU alive, you sure don't have faith in your audience.
>Luke didn't like this bar.
It's coarse and it gets everywhere. Not like here.
>No one was really prone to try and recognize him, or ask questions for that matter, and that suited him just fine. His last interview with Janis Thorn had ended up with him putting the journalist in the hospital, and Thorn and all his friends, like the vultures they were, had immediately pounced on the event.
So..... what you MEAN when you say "PTSD-afflicted Luke Skywalker' is this isn't even CLOSE to Luke Skywalker but you're going to CALL him that and hope we don't notice.
>He knew that Thorn had wanted him to attack him that night. And putting the man in the hospital had only managed to further hammer Thorn's point home:the Jedi were dangerous and could not be trusted. Even more the same Jedi who had fired the lucky shot that destroyed the Death Star I, and the Tarkin, and had seemingly managed to kill both Vader and the Emperor, and had ended the lives of Shadowspawn and fifty thousand peope in a single shot.
>And this were only the most famous of the very massacres he'd perpetrated.
>But what had really made Luke's blood boil was Thorn's question of how could a twenty-six year-old murderer with serious mental problems have possibly been thought fit to be the foster father of a teenage orphan.
Okay. We have come to the reason I have taken so long to post about this. This is..... this is not only ABSOLUTE HORSESHIT this is.....
This is either deliberate trolling or this guy believes that the Empire had a right idea, this guy's a fucking fascist.
I actually need another post just to write about this one paragraph. ONE!
>>44395002
Ultron is the evil robot from Marvel, not the planet thing from Transformers
Anybody here like to run any E-Wings? I'm trying to figure out how to use it properly.
>>44395553
>not treating the EU as canon and scorning the new shit
You're doing it entirely wrong, sport.
Welcome to Star Wars fandom though.
>>44395614
>Ultron is the evil robot from Marvel, not the planet thing from Transformers
Yeah he's thinking of Unicron.
To be fair though, there IS a lot of overlap between "Names of Star Destroyers" and "Names of Decepticons"
>>44395687
Corran Horn
Push the Limit
Advanced Sensors or FCS
Engine Upgrade
R2-D2
>>44395687
>>44395614
I need you all to understand.... what the Death Star did, what TARKIN did was not okay!
You can argue all you like about rebels and insurgents and terrorists, but the facts are that the Rebel Alliance does not attack civilian targets, does its best to never strike from amidst civilian populations and does not use plain-clothes operatives when it is performing a dedicated military action.
Tarkin ordered the Death Star to fire on a civilian planet, an unarmed target who are not military personnel, not any threat to the Empire, and, for the most part, NOT REBELS.
Tarkin destroyed Alderaan because it was a core world, something that EVERYONE would notice. An example that he COULD shoot because he didn't know where the Rebel base was and because 'the light was better there' as the old joke goes.
Luke Skywalker and the rest of the fighter group that flew out to meet the Death Star attacked a military target and you can argue whatever the fucking hell you like about how many people were on it or whatever, the fact is that it was a MILITARY installation primarily staffed by MILITARY personnel and if you somehow think that they didn't believe that danger came as part of the job then I have a bridge to sell you.
Is Luke Skywalker a murderer? Yes. Because he was a soldier and killing is part of the job. EVERY soldier is a murderer. Technically anybody who has ever raised a rolled up newspaper to a spider is a murderer. So before anyone throws stones, be sure that you've never sinned. Because you're next.
The Death Star was a military installation which can and did defend itself, he was not blowing up an unarmed planet, he was not shooting children at a preschool, and he wasn't flying a plane into an office building. He was engaging in a military operation against a military target to PROTECT a military target. That is the only massacre that you could ever put on his hands.
Also, it wasn't a single shot. It was two. Fucker.
>>44394725
I place a contract with Incom for T-65 X-wings and pocket the development money.
>>44395696
The Vong fucking suck and you know it. Almost as retarded as the Palpaclones.
>>44395005
Thanks
>>44395876
>Is Luke Skywalker a murderer? Yes
No, he's a killer. There's a difference
>>44395900
I don't know anything of the sort, motherfucker!
I stopped reading Star Wars novels roughly after the Jedi Academy trilogy, because it was obvious that Star Wars was over. The New Republic was victorious, the Jedi resurgent, and the Empire down to pitiful remnants.
Nothing after that mattered because all future writers could do to gin up conflict was;
A) introduce new sith
B) have existing characters turn to the dark side for Reasons(tm)
C) introduce new galactic-scale threats (evil species, hegswarms, etc)
and rehash forever.
>>44395793
I'm taking this further for my game and making a star destroyer stolen by evil robots.
Planning on running a Star Wars game in the near future for friends of mine, we're using Roll20, which I think is a great tabletop system.
Anyway, what do you guys think is a better system? I've played in all systems except for d6, which I hear people really like. I'm lukewarm with FFG with what they did with Jedi/Force Sensitives.
Thoughts?
>>44396359
The EU had some decent gems in an otherwise seemingly endless river of shit.
>>44392479
>>44392661
I never had a problem with
>>44394238
You don't really get that much control over your appearance, hell Twileks have it the worst because you can't change clothing colors, just skintone.
>>44394269
>>44394317
I generally went mostly lightside aside from Choke and sometimes Rage Choke is funny enough the best way to go (nearly) full pacifist since it lets you disarm enemies.
>>44395876
I..... honestly, I have no interest in continuing to review this fic. Because this thing is absolute horseshit that goes against the atmosphere of Star Wars. I am fine with KOTOR 2, I think it's alright. Karen Traviss? What the hell, why not. Troy Denning? Fine, bring him in.
But this absolute HOGWASH is.....
Look, later in the chapter Mara Jade shows up to kill him and he mentions how he's actually hoping for death and has to talk himself down from eating a blaster bolt because he has Ken to worry about.
The SECOND chapter has him in the principal's office of Ken's school because Ken used the Force to defend himself from three guys beating him up and the principal is punishing KEN because he's a no-good dirty WITCH-I mean JEDI! And also the wife of one of the Death Star technicians tried to assassinate Leia and Luke kills her first and obviously LUKE is in the wrong because the wife of a military serviceman became mentally unblanced enough to attempt to MURDER a member of the standing government! Because of COURSE that's the sane course of action!
So yeah, we're done here. This.... hogwash. Fuck, I never thought I'd run into something that made me more angry than Stuff but by god did I find it. At least Stuff was written by someone who actually sort of understood Star Wars.
FUCK!
>>44396088
I'd have to ask what the difference is, but I suspect it's that a 'murderer' goes out specifically with the intent to kill and a 'killer' kills during the course of events. And if that's your argument, then I agree with it.
>>44396359
You are not anywhere close to wrong but I still recommend the X-Wing series.
>>44394907
The Universal/Cosmic Force touches everything
>>44396717
I would call murder the unlawful, unjustified and intentional killing of another, typically for the reason of personal gain or satisfaction
>>44394907
Yoda literally uses rocks as examples of things the force touches.
Watch the movies.
>>44396847
That is something I'd also agree with.
>>44396717
Sheet. Didn't think I'd come up with something as to make the bottom three into a bottom four, just saw ken's name and thought to send it on
>>44396359
Read X-wing and the Hand Of Thrawn duology. It's well-written, has a plausable dsnger and serves as a nice ending for the old EU. If there's any place to stop, that's it.
>>44395876
QA you are doing the Force's work shooting down "Empire did nothing wrong" bullshit.
Am I supposed to dislike Asoka in the first series? Because she's a fucking qt
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!185:27,-1,149,-1:-1:20:;186:-1,3,-1:-1:20:;48:151,0,33:-1:-1:
repost since when I posted this is was at the end of the old thread
>>44396382
>Shockwave steals the Star Destroyer Shockwave. He claims it's not stealing since it's got his name on it.
>Deaths Head proceeds to get ideas.
>>44395793
>>44396382
>>44397446
I love playing "Imperial Starship or Decepticon"
>>44397485
Well, death's head is not a decepticon, yes?
But otherwise it's pretty hilarious
>>44397369
Looks like a nice fun casual list. Not sure about the Jan build, but there's nothing particularily wrong with it, and if that's how you like to roll then fine.
Personally, I like this Jan build: https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!185:27,-1,149,-1:-1:20:;186:-1,3,-1:-1:20:;48:57,37,74:-1:-1:
Then there's stuff we've got yet to come, which opens up the floor for stuff like this: https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!185:27,-1,149,-1:-1:20:;186:-1,3,-1:-1:20:;48:57,162,165:-1:-1:
What I imagine the Knights of Ren look like.
>>44397157
It's not going to change anyone's mind though. Some people will still think the Empire is cool or 'they did nothing wrong' either in jest, or ironically, or even genuinely think they had the right idea.
General Hux certainly does, as seen with I Have A Bigger Dick Than Tarkin Base and how he used it.
On the plus side, anyone watching the firing up close who wasn't wearing polarized lenses is now blind.
How's this for a swarm build? This is my first build so please be gentle...
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v3!s!184:147:-1:1:;179:-1,147:-1:-1:;152:12:-1:1:;18:9:-1:1:;154::-1:-1:
>>44397591
In a similar vein, here's a list sure to raise some eyebrows and annoy.
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!48:57,162,166,127:-1:-1:;9:135,116,126,69,127:21:-1:;9:135,116,126,2,127:-1:-1:
Casual or Vassal play only though, because who in their right mind is going to actually buy that many TIE Punishers?
>>44397697
Don't waste your points on Omega Ace. Also, take Wampa instead of Chaser, he synergises with Youngsters Marksmanship better.
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v3!s!184:147:-1:1:;189:147:-1:1:;152:12:-1:1:;18:9:-1:1:;153::-1:-1:
>>44394907
Counterargument: Droids are awesome. Your move.
There's a small local tournament coming up and I'm thinking of running this.
Is it decent or is it a dud?
“Red Ace” [R2-D2, Comm Relay, Autothrusters] (38)
Poe Dameron [R5-P9, Veteran Instincts, Autothrusters] (37)
Blue Squadron Pilot [Advanced Sensors] (25)
>>44397788
Same list with in the list builder.
http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!186:-1,3,153:-1:15:;175:27,-1,78,-1:-1:15:;44:43,-1,-1,-1:-1:-1:
>>44397761
What should I replace the Omega ace with?
>>44393465
I uploaded it with Chronicles of the Gatekeeper to my Mega account to make it a direct download for you all in case you didn't wanted to wait for the torrent. I just asked if anyone had Keeping the Peace or Mask of the Pirate Queen.
Of course I downloaded both from the KAT torrents. I don't claim to be the original scanner.
Here's the link to Strongholds and Chronicles: https://mega.nz/#F!8xlWzBRS!2KobxtNgb9swWXod6WehRw
Have fun, mates!
>>44397591
thanks, personally I like the look of cool hand on her though because it gives you a turn of using her ability on both ships when it counts
I am very interested in Ezra with her when the Ghost comes out though.
Also, here is an slightly altered version of my list https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!185:27,-1,149,-1:-1:20:;175:-1,-1,3,-1:-1:15:;48:151,0,-1:-1:-1: maybe this is better?
>>44397840
Epsilon Ace? PS12 shenanigans. So, like, does he target the PS12 TIE, or does he go for Howl? How many face-up damage cards from a Marksmanshipping Wampa will he take before that guy becomes a priority, meanwhile everyone is just grinding his forces down.
>>44397865
It's fine, the empty EPT on Poe seems like a waste somehow though.
You know how I like to use Jan? Like this:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!48:101,0,74:-1:-1:;86:27,73:7:15:U.18;87:73:7:1:U.18
THERE IS ZERO MARGIN FOR ERROR WITH THIS LIST. NONE.
Hilarious to fly though. Even more so to win.
>>44397948
Eh I think I should move vi over to poe anyway.
Ello can stay ps 7.
>>44397623
Personally I was thinking more like this.Yes, we are!!
Tada'ima sanjou!! Uchuu-ichi no eriito senshi
Kaeru wa kirai da Nazeka wakaran ga
Yes, we are!!
Junban kime wa kouhei ni na
Janken dazo
Senshi wa fea nanoda
Oboetoku ga ii
TOKUSENTAI!
TOKUSENTAI!
TOKUSENTAI!
TOKUSENTAI!
I don't know how into Rebels. Is this playable?
No, I don't own Autothrusters. Waiting for the Starviper reprint to get off the boat.
====================
The State Farm Snake
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99 points
Pilots
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Jake Farrell (31)
A-Wing (24), A-Wing Test Pilot (0), Proton Rockets (3), Veteran Instincts (1), Push the Limit (3)
Poe Dameron (36)
T-70 X-Wing (31), BB-8 (2), Push the Limit (3), Integrated Astromech (0)
Kyle Katarn (32)
HWK-290 (21), Twin Laser Turret (6), Jan Ors (2), Moldy Crow (3)
>>44398118
Looks flyable. I'd give it a shot. I've used Poe and Kyle like that, but never used that Jake loadout. Have you thought about swapping the Prockets for a stealth device?
>>44397988
gaaaghh, I keep on changing it!
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!185:27,-1,149,-1:-1:20:;175:27,-1,3,-1:-1:20:;48:151,0,32:-1:-1:
>>44394653
>What's the Star Wars equivalent of a Monitor ship?
Sort of thinking the old IPV-1 System patrol ship
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/IPV-1_System_Patrol_Craft
Slow, tough as hell and has a couple of fuckhuge guns on it
Do you think we'll see Rey as a YT-1300 pilot in x-wing sometime down the line?
What even would her ability be?
So I am watching The West Wing series box set my family has had for years over the break and I noticed on Episode 10 that the young lady playing Donna Moss is either really excited or not wearing anything under that red sweater in her first scene and it's very distracting.
But what's MORE distracting is the the lady who's on the cast who was the voice of adult Nala in The Lion King.
>>44398318
I wouldn't really call them Fuckhuge unless you're using the buggy version from the back of that FFGSW adventure book that gave their light tubolasers the power of heavy turbos.
I wish the Wook had a category for "Luxury goods" it would make a lot of things much easier.
Hey /swg/ who is the guy at the beginning of Force Awakens supposed to be? Just some veteran?
>>44394524
This. The entire message of RoJ is anyone can be redeemed. Vader himself didn't believe that. His power came from his hate for himself and what he had done. Luke told him ANYONE can be redeemed. When Luke said, "I am a Jedi, like my father before me", he forgave him for everything and in that moment his hate became regret and his power was gone. That's why I think Luke is the greatest of the Jedi, he did defeat Vader, by loving him.
>>44398472
I'm thinking some Alderaanian survivor or other.
>>44398384
Could be fun to give her three mini-buffs to pick from each turn for all the running about and tinkering.
Finn could be a crew for making you turrets better.
>>44398384
God, I fucking hope not.
>>44394634
Well cross sections shows that the bow is a massive hanger deck. Which may be why it's so big, its a Star destroyer with a super carrier bolted to the front.
>>44393692
This is an interestingly bad bit of fan work...
>>44398465
>>44398589
More like Naboo milk.
>>44398384
>You ignore obstacles. During the End phase, you may flip one of your faceup Damage cards face down.Other ships you meet either want to be your friend or are intimidated by your charisma.
>>44398574
It's certainly astounding.
>>44398589
>>44398605
Someone offered the Naboo wine and the Naboo girl serving it to... Darth Vader.
He took out his frustration on a bunch of Faleen assassins trying to avenge themselves on him.
>>44398472
Acording to Wookiee his name is Lor San Tekka and he's part of The Church of the Force so he's like a scholar.
Not place of birth listed.
>>44398560
Oh would it offend you so Anon? God she might even be good then you'd just HAVE to run her OH NO!!!!
>>44398589
>>44398646
That a Dark Horse comic?
>>44394725
The TIE/SF is a multi roll bomber replacement.
>>44398672
No, I actively don't run pilots like Corran, Soontir, etc.
More concerned about the power-creepy stuff we've seen from the Rebels characters, both pilots and crew.
I loved these deepdock modular things from the IHB, it's pretty damn cool that they're used to build more secretive projects outside of known gravity wells.
>>44398673
Yes, it's part of the Empire comics, or maybe Rebellion.
They were REALLY good.
>>44394907
Yoda says everything is part of the force, even rocks or Luke's ship.
>>44398778
Oh well fair play I suppose the 1300 really doesn't need any help.
>>44395001
What has the world done to you that you are so hard you can't love Skippy.
>>44397659
I kinda loved the Nazi rally combined with ground zero test vibe. I like to think in ten years they'll all have cataracts and thiroid desese.
>>44398821
Yoda ain't shit compared to the power of the dark side.
>>44398975
COMPNOR UBER ALLES
>>44398472
The novilization implys he saw somehow involved in Luke's academy.
>>44398989
>"Is the dark side stronger?"
>"NO. Quicker, easier, more seductive."
>>44399081
Big talk from a terrified bum hiding in a hovel in a swamp.
>>44399081
Or, to use a simple analogy, the light is meeting Best Girl, waiting for marriage with her and spend the rest of your lives together, while the dark side is plowing hookers and never meeting anyone you actually are interested in
>>44399141
>This is what the Knights of Ren actually believe
>>44399006
You know the First Order's more Empire then Empire vibe would make a lot of sense if it was just founded by surviving members of Compnor. "I know we'll insure proper political beliefs by kidnapping infants and indoctrinating them from birth"
>>44398573
That makes no fucking sense. The Venator's a super carrier, it doesn't have a dumb 'external hangar' attached to it.
>>44399081
Yoda tried fighting Palpatine and it didn't work. He isn't going lie to Luke. Every single being who has stood their ground, everyone who have fought Vader and his Emperor has died. But where they have failed, he will succeed.YFW Luke Skywalker is actually the One and not his father.
>>44399158
And catching god-knows-what from them.
>>44399160
It's good to see our TFA meme game revving up.
Any suggestions for running an adventure based on TFA?
>>44399250
Gotta get them dank memes somewhere
>>44399250
I just realized I didn't link to this post: >>44398989
Like I meant to and instead referenced myself.
>>44399160
>>44399081
I'm just saying man...
Yoda's character is such that he's been living fat, happy, and precognitive for hundreds of years. But by the time that we meet him, he's terrified to do anything for fear of getting it wrong. In that way, the dark side has co-opted him without his even realizing it.
Because of this everything that Yoda says and does, he gets wrong. It falls to Obi Wan (who is DEAD) of all people to talk sense into Yoda and get him to train Luke.
Whatever he once was, Yoda is no longer a credible source of information.
>>44399250
This is still my favorite TFA meme. Just about everything else I've seen is just poking fun at Kylo's edgy teenage phase.
Man, I just got back from the Force Awakens, and while it wasn't a bad movie or anything, it wasn't a Magnum Opus and not enough to justify scrapping the EU.
Do enough people who play EotE/the rest share that feeling to let the rest of the universe into their games
>>44399163
I've brought it up before, didn't they recanonise COMPNOR in Tarkin?
>>44399305
If X-wing is any indication, FFG is pretty happy to print stuff related to the EU.
So what method of Trooper was the best?
>Clone trooper
>Pros
>extremely effective soldiers
>mind chip that allows for total and complete control
>Cons
>ridiculously expensive
>constantly have to be replacing soldiers due to advanced aging if you want them as a standing army (faster then normal anyway)
>Storm Trooper
>Pros
>massive amounts of people to recruit from
>easy to equip and train
>Cons
>mass recruitment doesn't ensure quality
>no guarantee of loyalty
>FO Storm Troopers
>Pros
>extreme loyalty
>fairly well trained
>Cons
>must recruit from birth
>conditioning isn't perfect
>>44399318
Yes, and they got rid of the divide between ISB and Imperial Intelligence since they made Iceheart's father the head of Compnor.
Also Lucerno was a FUCKING MORON for missing the chance to make Yularen a real Grand Admiral in New Canon, and fell back on making him a dual-rank Admiral/ISB Colonel like in the EU.
(They did recanonize the villain from the Droids cartoon)
>>44399353
Add 'stylish as fuck' to the clone trooper Pros.
>>44394653
YZ-775 Medium Transport.
Legally produced trader that comes standard with a twin light turbolaser turret, two twin medium laser turrets, and two proton torpedo launchers. On a -merchant- vessel.
>>44399353
Can you explain something to me?
How do you pick which clone troopers get to be officers?
>>44399305
The problem with trying to push games with TFA as a setting is that they didn't develop it for shit. We get a whole three sentences to describe the New Republic beforeStarkiller Base blasts its capital system off the galactic map, and most of the movie is spent running across the whole galaxy from the First Order in spite of them apparently being an overzealous backwater junta. And on the tech side we got a grand total of five new ships with camera focus, so using movie-canon vehicles to differentiate the setting is out.
It's going to take a lot of hard carrying from the visual dictionaries and other side material to bring a sense of scale to the ST era.
>>44399395
Not that much better than a Muurian transport, which has almost as much firepower on an even smaller frame.
I think two double light turbolasers or something.
>>44399412
The ICS sure doesn't help. It's absolutely atrocious.
The Visual Dictionary is better.
>>44399305
I felt similarly. It was a decent-to-good movie, but very flawed. It felt like it needed another critical eye during the writing phase, or another round of editing. I've seen it twice so far, and I'm going to see it a third time at least, because I want very badly to have an unbiased opinion on it, but my second viewing didn't contribute much to my thoughts on it.
>>44399448
The couple of ICS pictures I've seen looked like 3d modeling with a blurry filter, so I'm with you on that.
Visual Dictionary gets points for pointing out AND explaining the TIE/fo's deflector shield, as well as for throwing fuel on the Punished C-3PO memes.
>>44399401
I'm assuming that the clones that exhibit proficiency for leadership and tactical/strategic thinking are appointed as leadership. Clones may start from the same base genetic template but even from the training stage, many will diverge from the norm and develop their own quirks.
>>44399503
>as well as for throwing fuel on the Punished C-3PO memes.
Throwing Fuel on them?
>>44399479
I only just saw it earlier today after having read entirely too many spoilers (I'm bored and as soon as JJ was announced as writing, I gave no fucks because not really a fan of his previous movies).
The movie was exactly what I expected it to be - an okay movie, but not something I'd be willing to see in theaters again. Rampant JJ-isms all over the place to the point where it felt like it was aping a Star Wars movie more than it was actually trying to be one.
What's worse is that even though John Williams was given far more time to create the music for TFA (most of his stuff for the previous movies was done in a matter of weeks, but TFA he had nearly five months), no real music stood out to me; Kylo's theme... I literally don't remember it. The only music that did stand out was Rey's theme that played when she slid down the hill, and all the points where they reused motifs from the OT soundtracks.
>>44399503
>>44399611
Oh, the "It's a Memento of another droid's Sacrifice" thing?
Or the bit where he's serving as a spymaster?
>>44399677
>it felt like it was aping a Star Wars movie more than it was actually trying to be one.
This EXACTLY describes my feelings on it.
>>44399250
>Yoda tried fighting Palpatine and it didn't work. He isn't going lie to Luke. Every single being who has stood their ground, everyone who have fought Vader and his Emperor has died. But where they have failed, he will succeed.
Just going to point out that Luke failed utterly when confronting the Emperor. It was Anakin that bailed his nuts out of the electric fire.
Yoda's teachings lead to failure, ruin, and sith lords. That's why he peaced out to the swamp.
The lesson of Star Wars is that the Dark Side IS stronger. But you have to man up and oppose it anyway, even though it leads to a never-ending cycle of vicious reprisal and violent death.
>>44395357
Said Death Star laser kills the hyperdrive, which for the Rebels their strategy is a very bad thing.
>>44399787
>The lesson of Star Wars is that the Dark Side IS stronger. But you have to man up and oppose it anyway, even though it leads to a never-ending cycle of vicious reprisal and violent death.
Uh no. That's definitely not the moral you colossal edgelord.
>>44399787
>The lesson of Star Wars is that the Dark Side IS stronger.
[citation needed]
Yeah Sheev lightningfucked the hell out of luke, but luke also threw away his saber and stood there letting him do it.
>>44399677
>>44399719
It was all the more disappointing because of how close it flirted to being a fantastic movie. The first section, everything up to Rey and Finn getting onto Han's freighter, was astonishingly good. Much better than anything I was expecting. Then the awkwardly written standoff between Han, the space-Tau, and the Kanji Club, followed by the Universal Studios themepark rathtar scene destroyed the pacing that had been carefully cultivated up to that point, and the movie never really recovered. The weird story choices (reverting all of Han and Luke's characterization from the OT? Introducing and destroying a superweapon in like 40 minutes of movie? Awkward interruption to hang out at Orange Yoda's Cantina?) felt like they were the result of a last minute brainstorm of a plot. That first 20-30 minutes, on repeat viewings, feel like a glimpse of the much better film lurking beneath the TFA we got. Ultimately it was a pretty okay movie, that could have been great, but hewed too closely to the original trilogy's tropes without paying enough attention to being a good movie in the meantime.
>>44399787
Yeah, you're right! The Dark Side IS stronger! That's why Vader picked the Emperor up in a Force choke and threw him out his big picture window and then pulled the entire Imperial Fleet into one big ball of metal.
And that's ALSO why Palpatine just forced his way into Luke's mind to force him over to the Dark Side! And that's also why when the Rebel fleet showed up he gathered IT up into a big ball of metal!
Except that's NOT what happened. What happened is that Luke is a Jedi Knight who's had barely any training, still managed to beat his father and managed to beat the Emperor in the only way that matters.
Killing the Emperor doesn't prove that the Jedi way is stronger. Proving the dark side isn't stronger is when you refuse to play its game in it's inner sanctum.
>>44399832
>No Poe + Finn running from the order shenanigans for a whole movie
>>44399787
>Yoda's teachings lead to failure, ruin, and sith lords. That's why he peaced out to the swamp.
Can't help but notice that since teaching other people about what Yoda had to say, Luke has LIKEWISE ended up living in the middle of nowhere in a miasma of failure, ruin, and sith lords...
Are we sensing a pattern here?
>>44392185
It's a shame. I hated Rosh, but I have difficulty going through with killing him, because Kyle just ends up so downtrodden.
If there was some way for Rosh to die without disappointing Kyle, I'd happily choose it. But letting him down is just too much.
>>44399900
>Are we sensing a pattern here?
Yes. It's called "writers are unoriginal hacks."
>>44395357
Who can possibly hate bubble cockpits? They are literally the best cockpits, are you going to dig up Howard Hughs and make him remove bubble cockpits from the best period of aviation?
A composite beam weapon is hardly a deathstar, it uses the same tech yes, but the composite beam tech has been used since the clone wars.
Great idea, make sure you factor in power usage and overload problems. The empire has a long history of silly tie prototypes after all.
>>44399900
And the rebellion defeated the empire only for us to end up with the empire and the rebellion again.
TFA should've brought us the age of the new republic and new jedi order. Instead we got more of rebellion vs empire, bnut not really lol. I like the movie, but i doubt i'll ever get over this stupid ass decision to stay exactly the same as the OT.
>>44399920
Canon now, bruh
>>44399900
>mfw
What are you talking about? Luke lives in the Jedi Temple on Ossus, peacefully enjoying retirement, surrounded by his friends and loved ones, and lets his son and niece handle the tough situations. He falls asleep while meditating in the sun, and laughs and jokes with the apprentices he trains and the old friends who visit him.
>>44399900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKQ_sCGYpwI
(the Spongebob mashup is gone, dammit)
>>44399939
the problem is that these bubbles don't really fit with the aesthetic a lot of the time and feel crazy forced. Like the Y-wing (and now the b-wing) getting a bubble turrets for no reason.
>>44399947
Just because it's canon, doesn't mean it isn't unoriginal.
>>44399985
Y-Wings started as Bubble-turreted shuips in concept art.
>>44399985
Yeah, it's absolutely retarded to put a bubble turret on a Y-wing. Who's the moron who came up with that?
>>44399999
And there's probably a reason why they initially chose not to go with it.
>>44399985
You see, we come from two different minds here, I see the y-wing and b-wing prototype and get all tingly. You see it and bitch on the net about it. I mean, its fair and all you getting your opinion. But you are wrong. This is the "interwar" period if you will, so far the the A-wing and B-wing prototype, as well as the old y-wing got a similar vibe going on. They are rather sleek with nice bubble cockpits. The X-wing and new Y-wing are the ones that are gonna shake it up into the next age of fighters.
>>44399999
>>44400029
>It was in the concept art once, thereby we'll ignore the final design and depiction on the movies to do whatever the fuck
>>44400057
>It was in the concept art once, therefore we shall use the concept art as inspiration as we redesign it into what it might have previously looked like, being an old spaceframe.
FTFY
>>44400049
These designs we're being shown would not evolve into the one in the movies. Partially, because reducing the visibility of your pilots. If anything, the older versions of this ships should have either: claustrophobic cockpit designs or the additional parts placed somewhere else on the body so the "we took it off due to maintenance concerns" would work as opposed to integrated in the primary fuselage that we clearly see has no signs of these parts in the movies.
It's really bad world building.
>>44395687
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!74:27,44,-1,3:-1:3:;65:-1:-1:-1:;65:-1:-1:-1:;65:-1:-1:-1:;65:-1:-1:-1:
I went against this once before, and it's actually kinda rough. It may not seem like much but if you fly them in close formation and they focus down most things.
