If you're a god in a pantheon, and like all other gods who aren't the primordials of creation, you get your divine power through worship, is there any reason you wouldn't make your non-combat angels sexy?
I can understand that if you need to optimize a combat corps, they may be extremely bestial and inhuman, but you don't send those people to do PR.
If your divine portfolio is sex-negative, I guess.
Making my PR angels sexy will only result in THEM being worshipped instead of me.
>>44343256
So you're saying every god who doesn't make themselves look sexy is a dumbass?
>>44343178
That depends on my ability to percieve the minds of mortals
If I can read mortals like books, then sure, if not, I think I'd like to play it safer with more respectable angels
>>44343178
Why should they look appealing to mortals? They're my agents to do my wil, not harlots bouncing up and down in a whorehouse window to entice patrons.
I *guess* the ones that administrate the afterlife will be appealing to the citizens of that realm. But when I have a message to bestow I'm sending down the fucking firey wheel of a thousand mouths and five times fifty and five again eyes to see all creation. I don't give a fuck.
Actually they shouldn't look like anything. Giant holy lights. Superpowered lantern archons will do fine.
>>44343178
Why the fuck would I want to talk to my worshippers. I don't need no PR
If I can see they're starting to doubt I'll throw in an apocalyptic event followed by a miracle and they'll worship harder.
Sure worked in the Bible
so what you're saying is...
...sexy angel thread?
>>44343178
How many settings do the "get divine power through worship" thing?
>>44343320
That's how you get a band of motely misfits shoving swords in your asshole.
>>44343178
Or you can man the fuck up and become a primordial.
>>44343334
Discworld, for one
>>44343334
Neptunia?
>>44343178
Why would I make angels in the first place?
I need all the power I can get.
>>44343334
plenty of japanese settings
What I don't get about "gods need worship for power" settings is why don't gods just mass brainwash people so they don't have a choice?
>>44343334
The best one is probably Discworld. On the Disc the power of the Gods is directly proportional to the strength of the faith of all True Believers in that God. The book Small Gods deals with The Great God Om, the God of a huge, crusading-style religion, that has been reduced to a powerless turtle because he only has one True Believer left. All his 'faithful' worship the priesthood and the process of the religion, not the actual God himself, and if his last True Believer dies than he becomes as close to 'dead' as any God can become.
Small Gods is actually a really good book. I highly suggest you read it if you have not already done so. The audiobook is also really well done.
>>44343412
Takes more energy to maintain the brainwashing than they'd accumulate from belief
>>44343334
>>44343334
It's also kinda prevalent in Norse Mythology or too an extent. Many people thought not worshipping the gods was their way of showing them their displeasure.
>>44343334
Stargate SG-1
>>44343412
Treaty with the other gods
Needs to be genuine worship
Gods can't interact magically with the world anymore for unknown reasons
>>44343178
The fuck do I care if the mortals get a boner in my temple?
They worship me for my great gift of not getting a lightning bolt to the face.
>>44343422
I always loved how gods can't directly read minds, but they can see them, their shape and nature, and draw understanding from that.
Dear sir Pratchett was alwas filled with such wonderful ideas
If I could create my own angels, I'd create them in three tiers.
1_ The sexy angels that bring blessings ("your god wants you to know you're doing a great job, m8!") or light warnings ("there's a bit of rain coming that might be problematic" or "your god wants you to know you're being a bit problematic, bro")
2_ The aforementioned wheels of fire with a gazillion eyes to bring severe warnings ("that asteroid is most positively dire" or "seriously, you're pissing us off up there")
3_ Cthulhu, for when I'm done fucking around ("YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED, MOTHERFUCKER")
>>44343178
>I can understand that if you need to optimize a combat corps,
>Not making you combat angels 20/10 amazonian fapbait with dem tits, dat ass, and dose hip
I hope you don't even consider not doing it
Besides, while monstrous forms are impressive, everyone knows something is really powerful when it's beautiful and humanoid
>>44343563
Following JRPG villain philosophy with your angels I see
>>44343178
We need the people to continue breeding among each other. If you make them too attractive, anyone who sees them will spend their entire life masturbating to them instead of mating with fellow people. The birth rate will take a nosedive every time you deploy them.
>>44343256
Obviously you should transform yourself into the hottest heavenly beauty
>>44343542
I actually agree with this guy, but I also really like the idea of impossibly sexy angelic beauties with Cthulhu level sanity destroying powers
>>44343605
Promise them that the number of angels they get to fuck in the afterlife is directly proportional to the number of children they produce, don't inform them it's one angel for 100 kids
Alternatively, half angels, they are naturally good and if you made your angels right, will probably be obedient to you
Or hell, forget the mortals, if you can breed angel human hybrids try and find a good mix that provide worship and is program to be obedient to you
>>44343178
Because pandering to 20th century teenagers is not one of the responsibilities of my most favoured children.
>>44343534
He was my favourite author. It's sad to see him gone, he taught me so much about what makes a good story and interesting characters. I don't think we'll see his equal in a long time.
>>44343720
Wouldn't angel hybrids be dangerous?
The power of an angel with the free will of a human?
>>44343542
>>44343334
Black and White
But in that one your "messenger" is a giant fucking orangutan.
>>44343720
>one angel for 100 kids
>>44343772
That assumes you don't make sure there's not too many half angels while you dilute the human blood with more angelic ancestry
Get your population to a good mix, 1/8 human sounds like a good, safe level to me
Now I want to make a setting kind of like Hyrule with the Hylians. Make it such that one of the Gods of Creation was killed long ago, and all of his angels were rendered mortal (very long lived, but mortal) and bred with the local worshippers. Fast forward a hundred years and that blessing was almost entirely lost to crossbreeding with foreigners and the pride in being descended from angels is just talk outside of sequestered villages and the nobility who believe they have the right to rule the world due to their angelic ancestry, but have been corrupted by their own power just like any other human.
And then mix in cat girls and dragons.
>>44344147
>hundred years
meant a hundred generations
>>44343178
>posting pony shit
Fuck off
Angels should not be sexy, at most they should be attractive in a healthy, comforting sort of way. These are beings you are not meant to insert your penis into, they are beings you should see as brothers or sisters since, in a weird theological sense, they kind of are (you are God's child, they're made by God.)
>>44343720
So only conquerors with dozens of concubines get to fuck an angel?
>>44344230
Why isn't there room for both, particularly in a setting where the god they serve might not be the god that created them?
>>44343178
>is there any reason you wouldn't make your non-combat angels sexy?
Yes. That reason is that you have no non-combat angels.
Seriously, why not have a bunch of warrior-angels and make them all sexy as fuck with lithe but toned bodies and amazing abs you can snuggle up against?
>>44344230
Don't bring your theology into my magical realm.
testing
I think angels should be just as varied as any other race. After all, sometimes angels got to do harsh things.
And they can be beautiful in a strange way, you know.
>>44343178
I prefer awe-inspiring, thanks. YHWH knows best, man.
>Human-like warrior angels that look like gods for communicating with mortals
>Everything else is H.P. Lovecraft with more fire
>>44343178
Flying suits of armor with bolts as bright as the sun is way cooler
>>44344230
>These are beings you are not meant to insert your penis into,
>they are beings you should see as brothers or sisters
Dammit, anon, make up your mind, you're contradicting yourself.
>>44343178
There are too many different conceptions of beauty for that to ever work.
Like a PR firm, a God has to either push for a specific demographic's conception of beauty and rely on their ultimately limited but consistent worship or go with the blandest, least offensive appearance so as to neither alienate nor titilate prospective worshippers.
>>44344533
I've been on 4chan for years now, but this was the post that finally killed my hope for man.
>>44344576
huh. Seemed relatively tame to me.
You are lying desu.
>>44344230
But from that perspective a human's expected wife is far more like their sibling than any angel is. And not just because of being from a small and insular village or inbred noble family.
>>44344625
Exactly. I read it and it seemed tame in comparison with other insanity I've read.
Faith lost completely.
>>44343534
Does anyone have that informative pic for the Pratchett books? Been meaning to read those, and knowing where to start would be amazing.
>>44344638
I thought she was holding a spatula.
>angel that comes equipped to feed you after dickings
>>44344642
Ah ok. Well at least you too know what is in man now.
>>44344728
I'd absolutely have Fury Akroma as my divine proxy in the mortal realm.
>>44344627
Now you recognize why Romans thought there were creepy incest orgies going on at Christian meetings since everyone referred to each other as brother or sister.
>>44343178
Fuck that. There's more than one way to be worshipped.
When I want to make an impression, I'm sending down the four faced, hundred mile high lion who's eyes are made of lightning and who's body is the fire of the sun.
>>44343334
Mine.
>>44343178
Depends.
Not all PR is sex related, and not all people will worship in exchange for QT Angels.
>>44345234
How fucked up is it that I see this image and "BECAUSE WIZARD!" is the first thing that comes to mind?
>>44345445
Otherwise the Babylonian Prostitute Temples would still be a thing... outside vatican city.
>>44343563
If Evangelion has taught me anything it's that you can get away with any form you want as long as you make it gigantic.
>>44343334
> D&D Forgotten Realms: Deities ascend through other means, but divine rank is strongly affected by number of worshippers
> D&D Planescape: Belief literally affects the universe
> 40K: Strong implication that belief gives rise to Warp entities which are effectively gods, of a sort.
>>44344230
It's a simple approach, but Islam proves that it can produce very motivated followers.
>>44343334
touhou
>>44343178
I'd really just have them do their own thing and I'd certainly never make them take forms just to give a bunch of pissant mortals a boner. I don't even know why'd they be appearing before mortals that often in the first place. I assume the only kind of person they'd ever want to talk to is heroes who were going to actually make a difference in the world. Or maybe they'd take on beautiful forms to hide a terrible aspect to trick mortals, that'd make sense. Poseidon had the right idea. Make a bunch of horrible monsters who will eat people without batting an eye and smack a hot chick on a chunk of it. That'll teach those mortals.
On a side note, I really hate the whole "Gods get power from worship" thing. It's so human centric. We already have these extra dimensional world controlling deities giving a damn about us, why do they gotta be reliant on us to live?
>>44345560
>You will never be a deity
>You will never have a host of giant, curvy, musclegirl angels with perfectly sculpted physiques, big bountiful breasts, thick childbearing hips, and the most mesmerizing asses any souls has ever seen
>You will never use them to render your holy judgement upon the end times, their perfect, glorious forms being the last thing most people seen in the apocalypse
>You will never get bored waiting for that moment and just occasionally send them down to sit on a city you want destroyed or deal with a heretic you want eaten
thats it for now
Playing an angel would be cool, but I don't know if any of the systems I play really support it
>>44343178
Depends on the precise nature of what constitutes "worship". If it's just people thinking you're a cool guy, identifying themselves as on your team, and going through the motions of whatever rituals are expected for your sect, then sure. But if the sort of worship that gods depend on is about reverence, awe, and respect, you might be shooting yourself in the foot by having sexy angels.
>>44345808
>>44347251
...More?
>>44345520
Not just you.
>>44343178
I'd invest in suits of armor with spiritual energy inside of them instead of sexy angels since they'd start developing human emotions when they start to live among them, then some Japanese swordsman or whatever [insert hero] will bang one and said angel will give birth to a nephilim. And nephilim are always trouble.
>>44348001
It's not difficult at all to rework a sexy angel into an esoteric and imposing image.
The Seraphim are the highest classification of angel in christian theology (standing directly above the four-faced man/ox/lion/eagle and wheels within wheels covered in flaming eyes, both classical 'terrifying' angels), and they might be sexy as fuck. Nobody knows, because they surround themselves with their blinding, burning wings.
The unknown is always the most intimidating, so going from any quality to the unknown is simple as veiling it.
>>44343178
If there any reason you would make any angel sexy?
>>44348533
Mortal appeal, as is the point of this thread.
Some people don't want to talk to a towering pillar of fire that shakes the earth when it speaks. Strange, I know.
>>44348566
Considering the lack of religions of the kind OPs talking about, I'd say you're completely mistaken. Nobody cares about "hurr sexy womyn with wings" when they're looking for explanation and solace for the strange and frightening world around them. Beat your dick for however many minutes it takes for you to skeet before you try to think, next time.
>>44348533
Honestly, if I were a god I'd make almost all my creations sexy or at least give them a sexy alternate form as a matter of course.
The only exceptions being subsentient things.
>>44348139
Once you're that big, isn't it more of a hinderance than a help? Even >>44347251 is pushing it a little (that horse is going to have to die).
I'm not saying they aren't beautiful, but 'sexy'? Not so much.
>>44345808
>Smashing towns and eating heretics
Why you have to be so crude? I love warrior angels; I love beautiful, sexy angels; I love a mix of both, but you're employing divine power like a blunt instrument. You're winged thugs with a holier-than-thou attitude.
>Be deity
>Have host of heart-breakingly gorgeous angels, male, sexless and female
>Use them to inspire and assist mortal followers
>Their beauty and grace compels thousands to listen to your teachings
>When your enemies rise up, your host is a shield for the innocent and a blade to be wielded against the unrighteous
>Precise, overwhelmingly powerful strikes capture infidels for judgement
>Cities of potential worshipers unharmed, as the palace crumbles in holy fire
>Angels gather the just and the holy at judgement day, protecting them as the world falls and demons and dark gods walk the land
>Use angels to continue to teach and enlighten, send them to re-build the new world
>Be respected by unbelievers and loved by followers
>feelsgoodman
>>44343334
Most gods (with one or another excpetion perhaps) from DC comics work like that.
>>44348724
The OP scenario presupposes that I would be a relatively minor god of the kind that requires worship to exist and also that primordial supergods that do not require worship also exist, therefore there would be the creations of other beings for mine to be more sexy than by comparison.
Also, how do you figure that I wouldn't have any worshippers?
>>44348621
Real world religions don't have gods with physical presence that have a vested interest in keeping their mortals around, idiot.
>>44348837
The fuck do you have to offer anyone?
>>44348840
And again, what would "hurr sexy womyn with wings" offer anyone? Someone who wants his crops to grow well won't fucking care about whether he sees a hot angel, someone whose only child is wasting away in sickness won't care about how hot the one who helps him is.
>>44348952
What would wheels within wheels offer anyone? They can't even hold a spade to help farm.
The angels will still be angelic and have any such divine powers that comes with that.
>>44348952
>The fuck do you have to offer anyone?
We're not talking about actual me, anon. The whole situation presupposes that I am a god that has actual power and is consequentially worshipped.
Besides, I work in pharmaceutical development so I'd probably be a god of medicine or alchemy or something.
>what would "hurr sexy womyn with wings" offer anyone?
What would armoured energy beings or fractal monoliths covered in eyes offer either of the examples you listed?
>>44348952
True, but you'd be terrified and flee from something that looked like it had just crawled out of your stygian nightmares, even if it was rasping in a sickening rattle "BE NOT AFRAID" or saying it's here to heal your sick child. Same goes for creepy, faceless automata or abstracts.
People like things they can relate to. We're predisposed to like beauty. It's just who we are. There's not a single person who has ever lived who is totally unaffected by aesthetics. So if you can get something that makes you fall to your knees and weep at the perfection and beauty to go with its kindness, without sacrificing on effectiveness, why the hell WOULDN'T you go for it?
>>44348728
Depends why the angels are there, but it's one way to have them represent divine power and still have a friendly face.
>>44348985
>>44349031
They're frightening, awe-inspiring, beyond understanding, thus signifying divinity and power beyond understanding. Just like life. Pimps and whores don't really do that for people.
>>44349048
We're not talking Mother Theresa with a kind smile, we're talking sexy. A slut in bikini doesn't make people fall on their knees weeping.
>>44349113
>They're frightening, awe-inspiring, beyond understanding, thus signifying divinity and power beyond understanding. Just like life. Pimps and whores don't really do that for people.
Then just give them an aura of divine awe and you're done.
Also, 'sexy' does not automatically equate to 'pimps and whores'. There are a bunch of ways to be attractive that aren't dressing scantily and posing lewdly.
>>44349085
No reason they can't do that while still looking kindly. Honestly, as a believer, I'd be more impressed by the being turning blows aside and swiftly cutting down the heathens and demons, if they still appeared kindly and even sympathetic to the foe. Absolute power, paired with forgiveness.
But yeah, sometimes you do need an avenging angel with a flaming sword for when someone's gone too far for mercy.
>>44349113
>A slut in bikini doesn't make people fall on their knees weeping
You've not seen some of the girls I have, pal. Granted, none of them managed that much, but it was close!
Besides, there's ways to make sexy come off as less slutty 'beauty' and beauty into sultry 'sexiness'. A woman can be a queenly, caring, or authoritative figure under the right circumstances; and a pants-destroying, heart-breaking seductress under other conditions.
And this is all not even accounting for heavenly grace, a hypnotically gentle and calming voice, or a divine light that gives them just the right mood lighting for any situation, from caring and helpful; to dreadful and awe-inspiring; to seductive and charming.
>>44348728
>Why you have to be so crude? I love warrior angels; I love beautiful, sexy angels; I love a mix of both, but you're employing divine power like a blunt instrument. You're winged thugs with a holier-than-thou attitude.
These are apocolyps angles anon, not warrior angels, they show up to wreak shit not conquer evil
>>44349165
>the ability to inspire awe is now a power and not a matter of being awe-inspiring
D&D with its aura shit has apparently made your brain rot.
+ >>44349218
>attractive = sexy
>graceful = sexy
>caring and helpful = sexy
>>44348985
>They can't even hold a spade to help farm.
They could probably pull a plow.
>>44349287
>D&D with its aura shit has apparently made your brain rot.
A lot of angel stuff has the pants-shittingly terrifying angels successfully command the humans they have suddenly appeared in front of to not be afraid, and it to work.
I don't see how this is any different.
>>44349324
Because they're basking in the presence of an envoy of God, whose presence defines good and whose absence defines bad. You're talking about giving a pin-up model an aura which generates awe.
>>44349370
They're a direct servant of a deity, I don't see how them having supernatural awe powers is in any way surprising or out there.
>thus signifying divinity and power beyond understanding. Just like life
"Real life" gods have to be beyond understanding because they don't have physical presence.
In a fantasy universe, the god is actually there, and can show themselves at any time. They don't need to exist in an esoteric state beyond mortal grasp, hiding behind smoke and mirrors, because they actually exist.
Equating any fantasy religion to real life is truly idiotic.
>>44349390
Real life gods are hard or impossible to understand because they're an attempt to understand and make familiar what's not understood. It has nothing to do with physical presence, given that many religions do involve physical manifestations one way or the other.
Your other point funny since you're actually just admitting you don't consider fantasy religion related to religion at all. But call your silly pimp NPCs "gods" if you so wish.
>>44349218
I'm speaking more of the appearance than the behavior. Giving the angels human faces helps to put people at ease, but making them impossibly large helps to remind people that a god is personally involved in the situation.
>>44349612
>giants put people at ease
Compared to what?
>>44349565
That's what's inequitable. There is no need to "attempt to understand and make familiar what's not understood" in a fantasy universe. There's nothing that isn't understood about the fact that the god of blood forged the world on an anvil of pain for his own amusement or any other creation. In fantasy worlds, those aren't myths, those are history.
Fantasy theology is not related to reality theology at all, no. Just like fantasy physics are not related to reality physics. Equating such is and continues to be pointlessly idiotic.
>>44349640
4-dimensional nightmare fractals
>>44349656
The average worshipper would still have nothing but hearsay to go by, and religion has been taken as history by many in the real world. Making fantasy religion unrelated to real religion is exactly what produces retarded shit like D&D and this thread.
>>44343178
To keep them from going Nephilim, the dirty fuckers. Or maybe because I'd want my worshippers to connect to the ideals I hold, and consider those who waifu my messengers worthless, unable to grasp the higher truths, and thus liable to become heretics? Imagine if your angels and your worshippers start dating instead of doing their job. How long until they forget their purpose entirely and decide they'd be better off without you?
>>44349612
Still, towering over castles is a little much. Something that big is a) not very dexterous; b) liable to cause collateral damage and c) liable to inspire terror regardless of its kind face.
I'd say limit them to a five meters tall or so and even then, only for the angels designed to smite whole armies of demons. Mostly I'd say 2-2.5 meters is fine...
>>44349734
And those average worshipers going off hearsay, why would they not prefer to hear that the emissary of the divine was a beautiful vision of love over a series of glyphs that is difficult to describe?
Your personal opinions hold no weight in regards to how fantasy writers write, so fuck on out of this thread.
>>44343178
I make them what they wish to be. Their jobs are what they wish to have. I love ALL my creations.
>>44349734
>The average worshipper would still have nothing but hearsay to go by
Why?
>>44349797
So to be imposing enough, they just have to be big guys?
>>44349898
stop that
CIA please go
>>44349843
Most people aren't useless fucks stuck in front of a computer, unable to imagine a good time that doesn't involve fapping.
>>44349862
Because what the hell else would he have to go by? Is he handed the undeniable history of reality on tape together with a VCR when he's born? The sexy slut angels hump the Truth into his ears every night?
>>44349932
>Because what the hell else would he have to go by?
The actual, physical presence of the gods he worships and the divine servants of them?
>>44349923
No.They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother.
>>44349973
I forget that a farmer can't leave his house without being pestered by gods looking to show them creation itself. Anyway, the scenario set up here is one which would necessitate a wide variety of versions of creation espoused by gods looking to sway people. Pure populism.
>>44349898
Next to the other lot, I'd say they're small. Plus, they could be female. Or genderless beings. Frankly, if I was a god, I'd ignore that third option though. Why fix what's not broken?
>>44350088
>I forget that a farmer can't leave his house without being pestered by gods looking to show them creation itself.
In most religions, religious dogma is not dictated by the farmers, but by the educated priests.
>Anyway, the scenario set up here is one which would necessitate a wide variety of versions of creation espoused by gods looking to sway people.
There are other reasons to worship a god than because they created reality, anon. Why do you think the greeks worshipped deified heroes?
>>44349932
>Most people aren't useless fucks stuck in front of a computer, unable to imagine a good time that doesn't involve fapping.
Do you think this shallow jab actually contributes to your argument at all?
Historical gods don't depend on mortals for faith. Your prayer doesn't make Brahma more powerful or make Thor better at controlling his thunder. This is not the case for the given fantasy settings established by OP. Sex is a very fine lure to many people, as is food and shelter, which fantasy gods often offer in equal droves.
>>44343320
>I'll throw in an apocalyptic event
unless you're the Supreme God of the Pantheon then the casualties inflicted on the other god's followers is going to piss them off and they'll mess you up.
Probably smite your worshipers. Convert them by saving them with a miracle before you do or make them lose faith with a public beat down.
And trying to mess up all their followers is just going to result in them taking action faster.
>>44350155
>In most religions, religious dogma is not dictated by the farmers, but by the educated priests.
Who don't tend to have a lot of evidence on their hands.
>>44350168
Right, I'm saying the fantasy setting established by OP is shit. But hey, what if we let worshippers take shelter in the cavernous genitals of sexy giantess angels, where they can feed themselves off the semen left there by god? We can kill so many birds with one stone!
>>44350229
>Who don't tend to have a lot of evidence on their hands.
Unlike in a setting where their god physically exists and communicates with them either in person or via divine intermediaries.
Like this one.
>>44349932
>Most people aren't useless fucks stuck in front of a computer, unable to imagine a good time that doesn't involve fapping.
But a surprising number do blow themselves up for the promise of sexy angels in the afterlife.
>>44350229
>Right, I'm saying the fantasy setting established by OP is shit.
And therefore you can leave this thread, as you reject it from the outset.
>But hey, what if we let worshippers take shelter in the cavernous genitals of sexy giantess angels, where they can feed themselves off the semen left there by god? We can kill so many birds with one stone!
I'm sure you could certainly establish a small but very dedicated cult with those tenets.
>>44350088
Just send down angels once a year on a holy day so every farmer and his dog gets to meet the divine face to face as some sort of coming of age ritual or whatever. That way everyone meets an angel at least once in their life.
>>44350250
As I said, >>44350088
>>44350258
Nobody has ever done that, it's just a case of heaping reward upon reward to make it seem there's no downside. What motivates suicide bombers is far more complex than the promise of virgins.
>>44350261
Nah, I'll stick around instead.
>>44350088
>Anyway, the scenario set up here is one which would necessitate a wide variety of versions of creation espoused by gods looking to sway people.
Not every fantasy god has to be the one true creator. They're just patrons.
Seriously, do you have no grasp of polytheism whatsoever?
>>44350351
>As I said, >>44350088
But I've already shown both points in that post to be bs. Unless you're suggesting that gods would not commune with their priests and dictate the rules of their worship.
>>44343308
>not harlots bouncing up and down in a whorehouse window to entice patrons.
Sure sure, but you CAN use them that way too.
>>44350223
>power is proportional to size
>If two god's get in a fight, the skies will quake
>Slowly, their abstract forces will resolve into cloud like giants
>As they fight and injure, the mists reduce to titanic elements
>As they burn through their elemental power, the flesh behind it appears
>Now they stand ten feet tall at most and still must struggle
>But their divine strength is gone, just the strength in their flesh and bone
>And that strength can be bested by a mortal champion
And now I know how to kill a god in my next setting.
>>44350351
I believe it's their family being held at gunpoint by "true believers" that motivates the modern suicide bomber.
>>44350387
Obviously gods who stand for different things are going to lie if everyone who believes the lie adds to their power.
>>44350416
Gods commune with their priests IRL, I suppose that makes all faiths correct.
>>44350455
But what reason or purpose could drive a God, thousands of years old, to throw everything they have into fighting another God?
>>44350387
Polytheism today is handled by appointing saints and prophets. The one true God is merely a supreme God of a slowly growing pantheon.
>>44350494
>Gods commune with their priests IRL
I suppose they do so physically, too?
I also suppose that they grant observable abilities to their worshippers and send down their divine servants to see to it that their will is carried out?
Your bait was amusing for a while, but it's grown tired.
>>44350494
>Obviously gods who stand for different things are going to lie if everyone who believes the lie adds to their power.
So you've got multiple sects of conflicting interests with various priests and faiths.
Like any example of any sort of faith in fiction or reality, then.
Business as usual.
>>44350546
A Just Cause
>>44350651
And you're going to slay this Just God? Harsh.
>>44350387
I don't see how that relates to what I said.
>>44350572
>priest of X says this
>priest of Y says that
>both have powers
>both gods have a selfish interest in being trusted
What's a poor farmer to believe?
>>44350612
That's why I said "hearsay". The average person has nothing but someone's word to go by, and everyone who preaches has a motive for lying.
>>44350687
Only one of the Gods needs a Just Cause, the other will be forced to act in self defense
>>44344185
That's Akroma, you moron.
>>44350707
Most angles are static, used primarily for 10th grade geometry problems, and therefore have null dex.
>>44350704
>>priest of X says this
>>priest of Y says that
>>both have powers
>>both gods have a selfish interest in being trusted
>What's a poor farmer to believe?
That conflict of interest has already been explained to be unnecessary bullshit, though.
>>44350819
Where?
>>44350803
Point, fixing it
>>44349797
>not very dexterous
Have you seen the Dex score on most angels?
That shit is not the case even if you account for any penalty for size
>liable to cause collateral damage
See my previous point
>liable to inspire terror regardless of its kind face.
That's why you make them impossibly hot
>>44350875
Awww, stats aren't everything and you know it. Handling anything smaller than a horse is going to result in broken bits.
But if you're genuinely going for an end-times breaker of worlds, why bother making them sexy at all? At that point, I think the gloves are off and I'd make them giant titans of golden armour and holy fire.
If you're going to get an angelic servant to show up at any point before the End of Days, then massive size and power are less important.
But whatever. Who's going to sit in judgement over a god? And I'm not saying I dislike sexy angels; just that I'd make them a little bit smaller.
My angels would appeal to my own sensibilities and mortals could either love it or rightfully fear me. A god takes.
All good religions are death cults anyways.
>>44350851
Here >>44350155, here >>44350223 and here >>44350387 approach the problem from different angles.
This thread needs more fiery wheel of a thousand eyes angels
>>44350904
>Who's going to sit in judgement over a god?
A bigger, stronger god?
A bunch of weaker ones that teamed up?
An incomprehensible horror from before existence itself?
>>44350951
Ophanim are everywhere, though.
They're the go-to angel type for faggots who like to go 'did you know that angels weren't actually winged people' as if that was something new and interesting to contribute.
>>44348121
>>44345520
Because it's funny.
>>44351003
Well more bizarre angelic beings of your choice then
>>44344993
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
>>44350713
aww, and here I was thinking of an earth shaking battle between gods as one put his all into fighting for a just cause and when in reach of a hard fought victory, is betrayed by the humans he was fighting for.
Also, another reason a god would fight hard would be to save face. If two gods of battle and battle related traits get into a fight then the winner will likely get most if not all the worshipers of the other god who fled, which results in a massive drop in power to a fraction of what it once was.
>>44343178
I tend to go full eldritch horror, seraphim levels of crazy on my angels. But sure, I'm down for making them boner inducing too.Get so hard you literally go insane
>>44351082
See, I normally fear insanity more than death, but I'd be down for that, just for the experience, you know?
Worth.
>>44351082
>seraphim levels of crazy
Seraphim aren't crazy at all.
They look like six folded wings to most people.
On fire, admittedly. But they don't unfold their wings for anyone.
You'd burn away if you saw what's beneath the wings.
>>44350904
>Awww, stats aren't everything and you know it. Handling anything smaller than a horse is going to result in broken bits.
Well strictly speaking, no that wouldn't be the case, at least in any system I know of, for example, by RAW a dex of 10 means you're able to manipulate things as good as a normal size human is, REGARDLESS of your acutal size
Castle sized dragon with dex of 10?
Can still stick the tips of it's claws in and pull something out of your pocket
Mind you a DM is free to adjust this to match their common sense but by RAW if you have the dex (and can physically fit), size isn't an issue
>But if you're genuinely going for an end-times breaker of worlds, why bother making them sexy at all? At that point, I think the gloves are off and I'd make them giant titans of golden armour and holy fire.
>If you're going to get an angelic servant to show up at any point before the End of Days, then massive size and power are less important.
>But whatever. Who's going to sit in judgement over a god?
Why not?
As you pointed out, at that point it's a matter of tastes, you want a gigantic pillar of fire to incinerate all? Go ahead. You want a sexy giantess to grind cities under her ass, well that's your prerogative
And for the non end times?
Well same answer, why not?
>And I'm not saying I dislike sexy angels; just that I'd make them a little bit smaller.
Like I said, it's a matter of tastes at this point, OP is asking what you'd do as a god and honestly, I like sexy angels, amazons, and giantesses so I'd be tempted to mix the three
Though personally I hate giantesses big enough that people or cites are specks, the whole thing for me is the interaction, so small enough they can still conceivable interact with individuals is what I'd want, and honestly I'd probably say some size changing powers for when being big enough to hold someone in one hand is a bit too much
>>44344141
Huh. That art is missing the spooky ghosts.
>>44350934
None of those in any way alter the conflict of interest described.
>>44351133
>You'd burn away if you saw what's beneath the wings.
That's the bit I was trying to reference I guess.
>>44351226
Sure they do.
The second one for example illustrates perfectly the fact that if a god steps on the toes of another god, by for example lying about past happenings in an effort to steal worshippers, there's nothing stopping the offended god from simply declaring war.
Eventually with that climate they'd all likely end up agreeing on a series of events.
I'll make EVERYTHING sexy because I'm a god dammit.
>>44351331
>I'll make EVERYTHING sexy because I'm a god dammit.
Exactly
Why not cater to your tastes?
>>44348139
Once you're that big, isn't it more of a hinderance than a help?
That's what divine grace is for, if you move perfectly you don't have to worry about collateral
>Even >>44347251 is pushing it a little (that horse is going to have to die).
Looks to me like they're fighting her, and given what the post is responding to, she may not care about the damage she's doing
>I'm not saying they aren't beautiful, but 'sexy'? Not so much.
>Giantesses
>Not sexy
Oh, you just have shit tastes
>>44351212
Not going to argue on those points. Sexy angels, amazon angels and sexy amazon angles are all fine in my book! I just like my giants/giantesses a little smaller. Enough to make a human a comparative foot tall is probably the very giddiest of my limits and even then, it's pretty isolating.
Anywho, I'm off to bed. Pity I don't have a gorgeous angel to kiss me goodnight for real.Why yes, I am a massive cringe-master. Thank you for noticing.
>>44351495
>Enough to make a human a comparative foot tall is probably the very giddiest of my limits and even then, it's pretty isolating.
Yeah, you just have bad tastes, minigiantesses should be twice the size of normal people, proper giantesses big enough to use someone as a dildoor swallow them wholein my opinion
>>44351533
I agree on the both fronts. Minigiantesses as 1.5-2.0 times a human; larger versions about 6 times a human.
Granted, that's maybe a BIT big for what you mentioned, but still, it seems our tastes align.Except eating and insertion. Not my thing, I'm afraid.
>>44351638
>larger versions about 6 times a human.
>Granted, that's maybe a BIT big for what you mentioned
>A normal person might be a bit too big for a nearly foot long dildo
wat?
>>44343178
might as well make all of them sexy, like fuck im a magical god and shit they don't need strong male bodies im a fucking god
>>44343720
>Promise them that the number of angels they get to fuck in the afterlife is directly proportional to the number of children they produce, don't inform them it's one angel for 100 kids
Someone doesn't understand 'directly proportional'
>>44351743
"x and y are directly proportional if the ratio is constant"
y/x = k (a constant)
y = kx
let k = 0.01
>>44351743
>If one variable is always the product of the other and a constant, the two are said to be directly proportional. x and y are directly proportional if the ratio is constant. If the product of the two variables is always a constant, the two are said to be inversely proportional.
From googling 'directly proportional'.
So yes, x=100y where x is the amount of angels you get to fuck and y is the number of kids you've had is an example of a directly proportional relationship.
The messengers of heaven are, to the last, beautiful and terrible to behold. Their visage is such that the mortals that gaze upon it shall never forget their near brush with divinity. To be visited by one with glad tidings is a memory to give strength in even the most trying of times. To be visited with a wrathful one is a sight to cow even the most hardened warrior.
The warriors of heaven are impossible constructions impressing upon this plane by the force of the will of the creator. Every part of them is a weapon, from the sight driving mortals to madness, to the slightest touch obliterating the unfortunate mortal. To survive even a far glimpse of the warriors of heaven is to be considered near divine yourself.
The bookkeepers of heaven are all seeing and all knowing. Lacking a will of their own, they respond utterly truthfully, though cryptically, to any request posed. Their knowledge is among the most fiercely protected things in all of the heavens. To have a bookkeeper is to know the universe.
This is but a small fraction of the vastness of the heavens, for a creator with infinite time creates infinitely.
>>44343400
Razia here lacking a real god or other divinely force creates other lesser angels in her exact image.
>>44344728
Akroma here is an ideallized version of Ixodor's dead wife. I'm sure he thought she as sexy. (Intentionally not mentioning time shift).
>>44345741
...I-no is the closest thing to a succubus in her fiction... Where'd she get the wings from?
>>44351892
>...I-no is the closest thing to a succubus in her fiction... Where'd she get the wings from?
Maybe she's just cosplaying?
>>44346410
That'd be like a paladin on pcp, I can't see how being a free will-less instrument of your god's judgement would be enjoyable.
>>44344647
I've been reading them in publication order
>>44344546
I feel alienated and titillated.
>>44351495
I agree with you. Absolute largest I'm willing to go is 10 feet tall, and I don't see the point of truly macro. Shame it's so hard to find art of that scale, rather than the usual city crushing ones.
>>44352151
>Shame it's so hard to find art of that scale, rather than the usual city crushing ones.
Fuck that shit, I hate city crushing size, at least building crushing/insertion/vore size is somewhat easy to find
Though if you're looking for 10 ft or so, try searching minigts or minigiantess
>>44343308
>They're my agents to do my wil
>not harlots bouncing up and down in a whorehouse window to entice patrons
Why not both?
>>44345234
Aren't the characters frowning in this picture originally? Anyone have the original?
>>44344576
MY FATHER'S WORDS
>>44343178
If worship is what drives my divine power, then my angels should be forces that ensure worship of my first and foremost. They should be beings cast in the image I have chosen for myself, and should play on the aspects of worship most easily sustained. Of all emotions, fear and hatred seem, within human lifetimes, to be the longest lasting, and since respect out of fear probably works for worship, a fearful image I would take, and so too would my angels. By extension, fear of what my angels would be capable of would cause birth rates to increase, so my worshipers to increase, or at least maintain themselves over multiple generations, so as long as I provide food, water and medicine to them my regime of fear will always have populace, and as such worship. If overpopulation becomes a problem, then it would be time to make some of those so far unwarranted fears a reality, and cull the herd in a display of power, and use the souls of those slain to forge new angel-horrors.
TL;DR, don't differentiate combat from non-combat angels, and rule your religion like a dragon would, to ensure maximum profit in worship.
>>44352560
To take the machiavellian approach, it is best to be loved and feared, and utterly useless to be hated.
More likely than not, your pure fear approach would end in suicidal destruction as every mortal turns from you, and your power dwindles to the point where you cannot exact any revenge.
>>44352611
hence the provision of medicine, food, and water
Provide for them, but be frightening beyond all compare, yet never touch them harmfully until their numbers ever become a problem.
Basically, become Mantarok from Eternal Darkness
>>44344596
>>44344874
>Trying to pass off the Goddess of War and Revenge and the Goddess of Light as mere angels
Triggered.
>>44352611
>not being the God of Hatred
>not drawing your power from all the hatred ever felt by mortals
>not growing ever stronger as the hatred directed at you feeds you more efficiently than any hatred they could ever have for one another
>>44350704
>What's a poor farmer to believe?
The god that promises sexy angels in afterlife.
>>44343334
Skadi around the ending part
>>44353218
MGE is shiiit
>>44353466
>TFW no sexy giantess angels of the apocalypse
>TFW no sexy giant trap angels of the apocalypse either
>>44343178
Angels should inspire fear and awe.
At least my powerful servants. It might pay to make the temple serving mooks easy on the eyes, but they shouldn't probably be most of my angelic hosts, just the most commonly encountered.
