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This is shaping up to be a great source of entertainment:
> some judges are responsible for leaking New Kozilek/Wastes
> Wizards bans them AND uninvolved people just for being in a Facebook group, including people reporting the leaks immediately and trying to help Wizards
> US Southeast region is fucked because they banned multiple L3 and L2 judges
> judge stuff is entirely run by a third-party site (http://apps.magicjudges.org) because Wizards is a bunch of tech-illiterate monkeys
> said third-party took down their site in protest as response
> Need a Regional Coordinator? Can't use magicjudges? Better go to Wizards's site and look there! Except everything on
> http://magic.wizards.com/en/content/judge-regional-coordinators
> links to magicjudges with their statement that Wizards can kindly go and fuck themselves for their latest action
>>44330917
I don't know what any of this means. Can you explain this to an outsider?
Wizards PR is nonexistant. Probably underpaid and unqualified like the entire rest of the company.
>>44331160
No judges, no tournaments. The higher the level, the higher tier of tournament they can run
>>44330917
so... no charlotte or hotlanta GP in 2016?
>>44331160
You have to understand the relationship between judges and Wizards, basically. In order to not have to compensate judges with wages, the entire Magic judge program is separate from Wizards of the Coast. Basically, Wizards took it upon themselves to suspend most of the level 3 judges (there are five levels) in the Southeast region of the US. This includes the regional coordinator. Some Level 2s and I think one or two L1s also got suspended. Note that they didn't get their judgeship suspended, they got their DCI numbers suspended, and as a consequence of that cannot judge events. Most of the suspended judges had nothing to do with the leaked cards, so everyone is angry. Two of the suspended judges were two thirds of the Judgecast podcast. Basically WOTC is shit, once again.
>>44331160
You need a certain level of Judge to run certain type of events.
Not only did they ban EVERYBODY for the SE region (good luck with your qualifier tournaments, Florida!), their heavy-handed approach fucked with the wrong guys.
Remember, judges are volunteers who are badly compensated for their work. Wizards relies on them. In response to the unjustified bannings of innocents, they took down the ENTIRE infrastructure to organize judges because Wizards could never be assed to do it themselves.
>>44331198
>No judges
>No tournaments
That physically sucks
>>44331325
so what you're saying is SELL STANDARD, BUY DUALS
>>44331325
>Not only did they ban EVERYBODY for the SE region (good luck with your qualifier tournaments, Florida!), their heavy-handed approach fucked with the wrong guys.
They didn't ban everyone from what I saw, there's only one level 3 left, though. They did take out the only L2 in the entire state of Mississippi.
I don't see the remaining Southeast region L2s and the L3 sitting on their laurels about this, though.
>>44331221
>>44331407
IIRC, a Level 5 judge is going to handle one of the bigger events in that region as replacement for one of the banned L3 judges.
>>44331407
>tfw L1 Judge in Florida
>Magic gets dicked over
Anything that means you faggots spam this board less in the long run is a good thing. Willing to take this hit as you get your panties in a bunch over this.
>>44331529
The same faggots will be there, they'll just be spamming a different game - probably FoW or Netrunner or something. I'm okay with it, just because of Magic's status as a Bad Game (I don't blame the current devs, they're doing reasonably well with it, but the core rules are stuck in 80s game design when they didn't know shit about shit) but don't pretend they're just going to vanish into the Æther.
>>44331529
Yeah god forbid people talk about traditional games on a traditional games board.
>>44330917
That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Holy shit. How long are they banned for?
>>44331706
I wouldn't give a shit if you all used MtG or something in your threads so I could filter it, but I have to hide 20-30 magic threads a day
>>44333097
And 20-70 40k threads
And 70-120 Quest threads
And 600-10238120820 trillion anime image+>Greentext shithreads
And...
>>44333097
>stop liking the things I don't like
>>44330917
>wizards accidently's all the judges in the south
>all judges proceed to go on strike
holy shit my sides.
You're the Wizards' Judge Promo distributor.
After this debacle gets out of hand and ALL the judges go on strike, Wizards finally caves and agrees to their demands. Among the list of demands, the judges also request a special apologetic judge promo, to show how sincere you are.
What card do you decide to send them?Ill-gotten Gains?Spoils of Evil?Choice of Damnations?
>>44333443
give them a foily path of sorrow, watch the buttpain flow for the rest of eternity.
>>44333443
>yfw they send a dread return
>then maro himself proceed to execute 99% of judges and brands them at the same level as dredge players
>>44330917
>be judge
>haven't checked Judge Apps for a while
>it's actually down
Fuck, what did I miss?What if they banned me and I don't know it yet? ;_;
>>44333443
Waste.
>>44331312
>Two of the suspended judges were two thirds of the Judgecast podcast.
Woah, now it's gotten personal. Jesus Christ, Wizards.
>>44333443
A White resource.If you don't get it, it's surrender.
>>44333636
hue
First the Reserved List and now this? Fuck WotC.
>If you have complaints, I would suggest you direct them to a representative of Wizards of the Coast. In the meantime, given their noted prowess with technology, I have no doubt an alternative location for event staffing, communication and community discussion will be up and running quickly.
That burn!
>>44333960
>given their noted prowess with technology
>>44334074
>you now have to mail your regional coordinator to get staffed for an event
>you have to arrive on horseback
>phones are not allowed anymore
>Wizards Event Reporter gets replaced by a blackboard
>>44333960
>>44334074
>pepefrogboy asked: What is the extent of technology a plane can have?
>We try to keep the tech low enough that it feels more fantasy than science fiction.
Makes sense. They don't use too much technology in the game nor their creators!
>>44333097
>>44331529
>>44334154
>samefag.jpg
>>44334154
>ISIS blows up WoTC headquarters
>Mark "The nose" Rosewater is found beheaded on video with a golgari grave troll
>>44333193
I wish people in general would use more easily filtered tags
But magicfags are the worst about not including them, or even just having a general thread
>>44333236
I don't think you need to stop liking it, just include a keyword so those not interested can filter it instead of it being spammed in 30 different threads with no common phrase
>>44334215
Well two of them are obvious, but I'm not >>44334154
Although I agree, but not because of Magic. Rather for how they handled 4E
>>44334470
>Rather for how they handled 4E
Oh, oh!
I see!
a 3.5D&Drone!
Ohoh!
Say it again
>3.5 is good! just use my homerules!
Maybe a bit of
>Le WoW edition XD
Maybe a small spice up of
>5e is LITERALLY perfect!!!
People like you should be branded like jews.
>>44334470
>even just having a general thread
There are like four of them at a given time. One general would make no sense and be a total clusterfuck.
>>44330917
>>44334074
Phyrexia was pretty high on the techno scale.
>>44334470
Just off the top of my head, I know for a fact I've seen Commander Generals, Modern Generals, Standard Generals, Custom Generals, and then various threads sprinkled here and there.Also it's spoiler season you shit, of course there's 40 fucking threads. Even this thread is a direct result of those spoilers.
>>44334673
Dominaria had crank-operated machinegun.
>>44334772
>>44334673
Dominaria and Phyrexia were a mistake.
- Mark "Maro" Rosewater
>>44330917
This shit is great.
I don't give a fuck about MtG or Wizards, but I want to buy the guy who runs magicjudges a beer.
>>44334945
>but I want to buy the guy who runs magicjudges a beer.
Why?
>>44334535
He might mean "How shittily they handled 4e." Because they made some real fucking dumb calls in marketing and growing 4e.
And it's still my favorite D&D, it just took me three years to get over my initial disgust and play it,
>>44334074
>too technological pulls away from the fantasy feel
That's big talk coming from the same man who loves the Izzet so much.
>>44334772
Urza made literal fucking power armor.
>>44335043
"Urza was a mistake."
- Mark "I'm not a developer but..." Rosewater
>>44334980
For having the stones big enough to destroy his own judging career over a moral stance. That guy is a fucking hero.
I mean, yeah. At what point do you step back and reflect on the fact that this is a GAME. You can only take a game so seriously.
Wizards fucked themselves on this one. Helene Bergot is a villainous cunt
>>44335506
>You can only take a game so seriously.
As soon as this game makes you millions, it becomes more than just a game.
>>44333667
>>44335579
I'd love to see that reprinted. Lots of fun.
>>44335579
Not a bad idea since it's an auto include in aJudge Tower.
>>44335833
Flagbearers really are wonderful cards, even though most people hate playing against them.
Uril decks in particular.
>>44332709
3 months
>>44334122
>magic cards are etched on stone tablets
>to play with someone across the sea you have to send them your moves in a bottle
>use smoke signals to broadcast what's happening in the final game
>>44336267
>language is now reduced to various "ooga booga" sounds
>damage gets dealt by hitting your opponent with a wooden club
>>44336293
>damage gets dealt by hitting your opponent with a wooden club
>sourceless damage
You hit your opponent with the tablets you scrub.
>>44336355
>ooga booga buckcluckaa
>boogaa uhhhh obaaaahh
>oog oogaa
>>44336387
>Chuckaaboonga
>Ugga ugga oohhhhhh
>>44336355
>judges file a ban for unnecessary violence against a player
>WotC bans the judges for spoiling the name of their next set, "Unnecessary Violence"
I swear these jokes almost write themselves
>>44333443
lotus
also I nuke the reserved list because someone decided to give me power in WotC
>>44336605
Nah.
Triumph of ferocity
With the same art as it originally had
>>44330917
Salt fag is salty that actions have consequences.
>>44334997
>man
He's a jew.
>>44336728
Shut up, Trick. Your article was bad.
>>44335232
Im no magic player, I just hate WotC.
Story?
Wow this sounds like a huge clusterfuck. I think we can fix it, but we're gonna have to ban more judges.
>>44336749
>bluhbluhbluh muh judges
keep getting triggered, faggot.
>>44335506
>You can only take a game so seriously
People get emotionally invested in thing they love. By the same logic you could say "it's just a movie" or "it's just a book." Most of those things are meant to evoke emotions.
Some of us prefer magical realms than real life.
>>44336803
>"As of recent events, all judges have been suspended indefinitely. For now, the only Magic tournaments will be held online."
>>44336891
>In light of the recent controversy, we have placed Mark Rosewater in an armored capsule manufactured through mystical science. We intend to launch him into the human consciousness itself, where he will fight and annihilate the very concept of "judging"
>>44336891
>In the interest of preventing further leaks, all players with DCI numbers have been suspended indefinitely.
Why aren't we bombarding with tweets @HeleneBergeot?
>>44337051
Because you have nothing to say that would get heard.
And this is why you don't break NDAs and post spoilers. It's all the judge's fault.
>>44337079
"Hey, you guys fucked up big time, are you gonna get fired? You should, you did a bad job"
>>44337166
Post it then.
"lol i dont have an account you do it"
>>44337132
What the fuck did the judge that saw the spoiler, reported it to wizards, and still got suspended do?
No one would fucking care if it was just the judges that broke NDA that got suspended, its all the other judges that literally (as in, actually, not in the meme sense of the phrase) did nothing wrong and got suspended anyway that people are pissed about.
>>44336959
>all players with DCI numbers have been suspended indefinitely
>>44337208
That's just a rumor, it's not confirmed. Even the Judge website says that they only think 2 judges were suspended for posting the leaks. They know nothing about the real situation.
>>44330917
>meanwhile at WotCHQ
>"maybe this'll distract them from expecting Emrakul in Innistrad"
>>44337332
http://magic.wizards.com/en/content/suspended-dci-memberships
>CJ Shrader
>Brian Prillaman
>>44337348
What if that's Sorin?
>>44337366
Damn that's a lot of lifetime bans.
>>44337208
>The people suspended were members of a private group receiving stolen confidential information about upcoming sets before this information was available in any public forum on the internet. This happened over multiple sets and well ahead of preview season for the sets in question. Viewing never-before-seen Magic cards in a private group — and not seeing these cards anywhere else on the internet — should be a red flag that the information you see is likely stolen. If you come across information like this, you should immediately report it to Wizards. Major leaks in the past have been prevented by other members of our community reporting similar situations to Wizards.
>Another concern that has been raised by some individuals is that they did not participate in the group during the latest leak. The issue with the passive participants is not a one-time affair; this information was shared within the group for multiple expansions.
>>44334470
>>44334995
This is kind of irrelevant because D&D!WotC and MtG!WotC are almost entirely separate animals. D&D sometimes gets reassignments from the MtG division, yeah, but only nonessential personnel, and almost never the other way around. In other words, it's a demotion. And due to how Hasbro's rules work, the properties are also financially running separate books. As far as I can tell, they don't even have a shared marketing department, or if they do, they're timesharing but MtG has at least 10 slots to every one of D&D's, as suggested by e.g. Mearls taking the lead on marketing and branding. So, basically, you shouldn't let your opinion of one affect your opinion of the other. If they suck on both levels, it's just a coincidence.
>>44336176
I would love it in modern, although I play grixis builds typically white weenies holds a special place in my heart.
>>44333097
>>44334535
woah woah slow down turbo
>>44330917
>outsource a nearly critical service related to your product to volunteers
>throw your weight around and bring the hammer down on said volunteers
It's like they genuinely have no clue how to run a business. How have they lasted this long?
>>44338936
monopoly on "serious" competitive trading card games.
>>44338983
I guess the consumer decides what gets to be successful, but I'm always a bit baffled by the notion that games can be taken this seriously.
I'm partial to RPGs myself, but I wouldn't feel secure if I'd built my entire livelihood on them.
>>44331518
Don't you need a higher level to promote you?
How will that happen when there is no higher level?
>>44338936
monopoly's. Seriously, MtG, D&D, and several well known boardgames are all that have kept this train wreck limping along so far. Kinda like GW in fact.
>>44333443
Chain Reaction
>>44339120
Well It also helps that wizards is USUALLY halfway competent when magic is concerned
Recently they've been going a bit retard though
>>44335506
It had to be a woman in charge didn't it?
>>44337132
But they're volunteers, they most likely didn't sign shit.
>>44339213
It's not unheard of for volunteers to still need to sign NDAs.
>>44331529
I'm gonna post 3 times as much now hehe
>>44333443
Wait, the Judges have Union?
>>44331529
I'll tke the magic guys over the 40k dudes any day.
>>44333443
If it was me I would give them something good like Grove of the Burnwillows.
But since I'm a wizards employee, I give them a "too good for standard" Elvish mystic.
>>44337332
They say they only think two judges were suspended for posting the leaks, as opposed to the being suspended for doing nothing wrong. It is confirmed that there are judges banned who reported the issue to Wizards and who didn't even log on and thus couldn't have seen the leak.
>>44337366
>sort by start date
>oldest is 1998
>there's four pages
>two and about three quarters are all from 2015
Why are they ramping up the bans so much?
It still cracks me up how all of the mythics for Oath were spoiled a day or two before Wizards released that article about spoiling being bad given that that was a response to Koz and Waste leak.
>>44339852
SJWs are infesting the place
>>44339852
You know the answer.
>Female in PR
>Female in Administrative Office
>Female Art Director
>Faggot Head of Marketing
>Jew Stereotype as Head of Design and Spokeperson
>Tumblr
#Listenandbelieve.
#Hurtingfeelingsisworsethanmuder.
#A"rapist"playingistheworstthingtohappento magicdespitethelawandthe"victim"agreeingheswaypastatoningandyoullgetbannedfromtheMTGfacebookpageifyoumentionthiscase
#Inclusiveart
#Aspietransfaggoterkincharacters
#ChandraisnowFeliciaDay
#Everythingiscgibecauseicouldntbeassedtowriteacompetentdesigndoccument
#Banalljudges
#Bluecandothat
#BeastWithinisanothershoa
#FireMohrbacher
#Arentwesoradicalwithourhastags
>>44334995
>He might mean "How shittily they handled 4e." Because they made some real fucking dumb calls in marketing and growing 4e.
>And it's still my favorite D&D, it just took me three years to get over my initial disgust and play it,
That guy here, this exactly. 4E was fucking awesome and they blew it all.
>MaRo spoils enemy fetchlands are not in DTK way before spoiler season making prices skyrocket
>No one cares
>2 Judges spoil some cards
>All but one L3 judges in the SE get banned along with most L2
WotC gets hysterical because their shit set won't sell now that we've seen all crappy mythics and they can't goad the expedition lottery with a single desirable card and now SE Tournament Organizers need to hire people off-state at a higher expense and most probably with much lower turnout and profit or cancel their tournaments.
Fuck this company.
>>44339852
Magic players are having badwrongfun thoughts at an increasing pace
It's kind of amusing that since Wizards decided to hand out three month bans for ruining their precious marketing campaign, I'm not going to be buying any OGW which amounts to three months of them not seeing my cash. I love the game itself, but fuck Wizards.
Think I'll spend the money I would have spent on OGW on Chinese fakes to get into modern/legacy.
>>44339137
I've been playing since theros, that's 10 draftable sets. You know how many of those I'd describe as good?
2
Triple khans and conspiracy. Everything else tops out at "meh".
>>44340531
Why do you play if you don't even like it then?
>>44339071
God forbid people get compensated for doing something they love.
>>44340537
Where did I say I don't like it? I love the game, I primarily play limited, modern and edh. But I'm a bit miffed that I get maybe 1 good draft format a year when they pump out so much stuff.
>>44333443obsidian fireheart
>>44340147
Dont' forget about retconning a legendary creature into a transgender.
>>44340651
Wait, who was retconned?
Because alesha was trans, but there was no previous con of her to ret.
>>44333717
>First the Reserved List
But that's been a thing since forever
Did you just wake up from a coma?
>>44330917
>Judging is volunteer work and merits no proper form of pay except for pieces of cardboard
Seriously? Why would people bother to Judge in the first place?
>>44340974
Love of the game. That's it. They were willing to put up with the shit for little to no recompense because they loved the game; now that WotC has fucked them over even more, I'm expecting a lot of bitterness to come out.
>>44338936
Their rabid fanbase and the stranglehold they have over the market
>>44333443
A Promo Foil Full ArtEvolving Wilds
>>44340995
What if all kinds of shady and legally questionable business practices come out, and WotC is forced to address them/bring on judges as employees
I doubt it would happen but in a perfect world
>>44341223
Eh, not really. Volunteer work is basically legal slave labor, and compensation isn't even required.
That being said I would be interested in seeing how other Judges and pro players will react to these bannings, as well as other tournament holders like SCG and TCGplayer.
Maybe they'll start holding their own private tournaments?
>>44341307
>legal slave labor
Except that it's voluntary. And does not involve ownership or objectification of the person. So basically nothing at all like slave labor.
>>44333443
>>44336959
>In the interest of preventing further leaks, Magic the Gathering have been suspended indefinietly.
No game, no problem.
>>44340209
I think the saddest part about 4e was that they couldn't be assed to actually finish their virtual tools and nobody will get the chance to fix their mistake.
>>44335506
And a company that grows and sells bananas is just a fruit company and shouldn't take their income so seriously, right? Not condoning WotCs behavior, but suits don't give a fuck about what the money comes from, because money's just money.
>takes this long for people to realize how horribly incompetent WotC is
About fucking time
>>44341563
More like a larger population. People have always known WotC is incompetent, the state of Magic Online and their entire website speaks to this
>>44341503
There was a murder-suicide that kindakilledthe digital tool project.
>>44335552
Your point is valid, but I was trying to frame the comment from the judge's perspective.
At some point as a player or judge if things get too actively hostile; for example against white men, or safe male spaces in general you at some point would decide to just walk away.
Every time I see Helene Bergot's smug disgusting French face I get enraged. This woman is the cause of the bans, and a general villain.
>>44340934
Sure, fine, dont call it retconned. Regardless, they forcefully written the character into that position. She/he/it couldnt just be a strong warrior woman, no - they had to play the LBGT card.
>>44330917
I've been hearing rumors of a strike, and honestly it feels like both sides are over reacting. We won't know the reasoning behind the other bans unless WotC makes a statement (which I think is unlikely). WotC seriously needs to hire a PR guy, but the judges should really wait for something before making such actions.
>>44331358
There will still be tournaments, it'll only be the bigger ones that take a hit. But I agree, it blows.
>>44339127
I can already feel the asspain
>>44338936
Corporate logic dictates that because volunteers cost nothing, they are therefore better in every way.
>>44343503
see picture
>>44343503
It's not like Alesha is some huge character in the long game of mtg storytelling. If it were a current pushed walker then I could understand the frustration even though I don't agree with it and they would probably fuck her up as a character somewhere when handling the gender issue. But Alesha appears in one set and is fucking dead now because she was ancient Tarkir.
I was out of the game when Theros rolled in, was there a big fit over Ashiok because they had no gender?
>>44344395
yes.
You got the usual magic is dead now posts
>>44340974
Fundamentally the same reason people DM; a combination of love of the game, natural helpfulness and the feeling that somebody has to do it.
>>44339852
List of lifetime bans.
1998: 1
2001: 1
2005: 1
2006: 1
2007: 5
2008: 2
2009: 9
2010: 1
2011: 1
2012: 8
2013: 6
2014: 6
2015: 12
NOTE: I think a lot of people got banned for name duplication, in any case they were not counted as separate cases. There are also more ambiguous cases where people have the same last name but different first names, I assumed that they were siblings, but it could just be a pseudonym.
I'd guess the increase of bans is happening mostly due to the increase of counterfeiters, I agree the rapist case was fucking retarded though.
Looking at bans other than lifetime bans is clearly fucking retarded (at least without comparable durations) so don't.
>>44341593
>their entire website
Jesus yeah, firstly the new website is shit and secondly WHY DO THEY HAVE TWO WEBSITES!? Jesus guys, just import the old articles into the new site and repoint the record/change the vhost.
>>44343503
>One character from one set is trans
>OMG WIZARDS IS PANDERING
>SJW SCUM IN MA GAME
>MAGIC IS RUINED
>>44339852
Because the three-month, six-month, and one-year bans from 2015 are still on the books. Bans from earlier years may have expired.
>>44344071
>We won't know the reasoning behind the other bans unless WotC makes a statement (which I think is unlikely).
...they did. Two days ago.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/statement-concerning-recent-suspensions-2015-12-21
>>44337132
Judges don't sign NDA's from WotC outside of a few cases that weren't involved in this instance.
>>44340147
you forgot
#triumphoffeminism
>>44344636
They used to list the reason for bans, whether it was "dissemination of private documents" or just "cheating" "theft" or "assault".
Wonder why they stopped posting the reason for the big bans.
>>44345850
Legal reasons I'm sure. Something like libel.
>>44345872
It's not libel if it's true. Defamation (slander/libel) has a four pronged test, and the first test is that the statements made have to be false.
>>44345991
Exactly. What if it's not true?
Brand someone a cheater, and they've lost several thousand dollars of sponsorship money. They have a friend's video proof that they didn't cheat, so off to court we go.
Wizards doesn't want that on their plate.
>>44344848
That was pandering, though.i'm a tranny and i didn't like it
>>44330917
If you're going to ban the people that spoiled it, fine. It's your company, and you've all clearly been ass-hurt about it. But just banning everyone in some Facebook group just because? What the fuck kind of logic is this?
Who looked at this and said "yes, I reckon they're all guilty, because reasons". WotC, especially in the last few years, has made some really fucking stupid knee-jerk decisions, but this takes the cake.
>>44331289
Saved.
>>44346135
It only came up in one story, and was never explicitly stated. Yeah, they confirmed it on social media, but it's very easy to not even know unless you're looking for it.
I consider that the best form of representation. It's non-intrusive for people who don't care about it, while also being present for those who do.
>>44339852
Partly because the player base is getting bigger, but mostly >>44340147
>>44345991
As reasonable as I believe that to be, it nevertheless only ever became a feature of United States libel law specifically.
>>44340247
>they can't goad the expedition lottery with a single desirable card
I'd put money on OGW outselling anything from the last five years other than BFZ and KTK. You seriously underestimate how much stupid people love to gamble.
>If you come across information like this, you should immediately report it to Wizards.
>The issue with the passive participants is not a one-time affair; this information was shared within the group for multiple expansions.
Oh I see Wizards so unless we go out of our way to report everything questionable we see to you then we get banned cool!
>>44341491
>In the interest of preventing further leaks, WotC is sending Mark Rosewater back in time to kill Richard Garfield before he creates Magic.
>>44340934
It was obviously shoehorned in at the last minute. Possibly even after the set was released based on the high school tier quality of the story and the lack of any mention in the set's flavor text.
>>44346552
>Sees leaks.
>Immediately reports to Wizards in attempt to help stop responsible party.
>Gets banned along with the perpetrators.
Magic has a history of judges and WOTC fucking things up...
ever hear about the taco DQ?
someone told his friend if he placed in the top 4 he'd treat him to tacos.....
so the judges DQ'd the player
>>44346576
>In the interest of preventing further leaks, we've decided every future set will just be 280 basic Islands with the same art. But there is a 1 in 8192 chance of one of those being a foil Mountain.
>Happy gambling!
>>44346633
The judge did nothing wrong. Gambling isn't allowed at events.
>>44346135
#notyourtranny
>>44346718
"wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods."
learn to google before opening your pleb mouth m'lord
>>44346670
>In the interest of preventing further leaks, all cards, past and future, are receiving errata to be basic mountains.
>>44346609
No no friend you see by being part of that group before they had been passive parties in previous leeks making them guilty scum worth no more than the dastardly Chinaman and his defiance of the reserved list!
>>44340586
If you can manage it, all the more power to you. But there has to come a point where you realize the only thing that's keeping a roof over your head and food on your table is a fairly trivial little luxury.
I'd be sweating bullets.
>>44346778
"If Tom Ross makes Top 8, I'll give you $20."
"If you make Top 4, I'll give you tacos."
What's the difference here? Because the top one is definitely gambling.
>>44344848
Really, pandering is not even necessarily a bad thing. Plus Alesha was done in about the least pandering way they could have done it.
>did it in a side story on the website, not on any cards
>gave actual story explanation for being trans, not just arbitrarily "this character is trans because no reason"
>one shot character that will never be seen again, so it's not like she'll be paraded around every set
>>44346846
The bottom is incentive based as it depends upon the individual's performance mostly.
The top one is mostly beyond the player's control.
>>44346135
Pics or didn't happend.
>>44346785
>In the interest of preventing future leaks we've decided to discontinue Magic: The Gathering
>I hope you all enjoy our next game, Mountain: The Gambling
>>44346846
Not really... the player put nothing down...it's a reward or incentive. Just because it's money doesn't make it gambling. Besides the taco player didn't even agree to it before he was DQd
>>44346846
Neither is gambling because only one person is making an offer that is contingent on a future event. You would have to add something like "and if that doesn't happen you give me $20 and tacos" to make it a bet.
>>44346992
>>44346922
>>44346867
>>44346846
tips fedora
>>44346861
>did it in a side story on the website, not on any cards
Last minute shoehorn.
>gave actual story explanation for being trans, not just arbitrarily "this character is trans because no reason"
That quotation is actually a decent summary of the Alesha story.
>one shot character that will never be seen again, so it's not like she'll be paraded around every set
70-90% of Magic characters are one shots that we never see again. Even the ones from planes like Ravnica that have multiple blocks.
>>44347068
>Le eben fedora maymay
>>>/redit/
>>44347082
>70-90% of Magic characters are one shots that we never see again
Feather who?
>>44347102
uguu desu baka
>>44337663
>stolen information
Them's fightin' words, Hasbro.
>>44347082
>Last minute shoehorn.
And...?
>That quotation is actually a decent summary of the Alesha story.
Except where they actually bothered to write a story and come up with a reason? It might be a stupid reason, but it's still more thought put into than no explanation at all.
>70-90% of Magic characters are one shots that we never see again. Even the ones from planes like Ravnica that have multiple blocks.
The point, which you so expertly failed to grasp, was that they did it with a one shot character literally nobody else would care about as opposed to a popular, recurring, or well established.
Hell, they actually did pander with Ashiok the gender neutral planeswalker but nobody ever brings THAT up, just Alesha.
>>44347068
Wow. That's an amazing argument there. I'm surprised I hadn't thought of that before.
>>44346110
If the cheating accusation is found to be false, then the ban would have been reversed. I'm not sure you realize just how much the DCI looks into those accusations before deciding what penalty (if any) to award above and beyond the DQ.
>>44346464
Not that I'm calling you a liar, but I'm very interested in a source for that. I was taught that the 4-prong test for defamation was a relic from english Common Law.
>>44330917
This is some serious lulz. Well done, Florida.
>>44347370
that's because you aren't of my superior intellect
you probably think standard is a worthwhile format
>>44347428
I only play limited.
>>44345850
"Helena doesn't like your face" may not be good for PR.
>>44347454
hipster
>>44347228
>And...?
As a last minute shoehorn it serves no purpose other than pandering. 100% pure pander.
>Except where they actually bothered to write a story and come up with a reason?
Except that it didn't do that. It included a trivial explanation for Alesha choosing that specific name, but nothing about how or why he decided to become a ladyboy.
>The point, which you so expertly failed to grasp, was that they did it with a one shot character literally nobody else would care about as opposed to a popular, recurring, or well established
Because a parade of tacky, hamfisted one shot pander characters is SO much worse than one recurring one.
>Hell, they actually did pander with Ashiok the gender neutral planeswalker but nobody ever brings THAT up, just Alesha.
Ashiok is unknown, not gender neutral. Not that I expect anyone who likes Alesha to grasp subtlety, but you could at least read the MTGS Wiki.
>>44347228
>they actually did pander with Ashiok the gender neutral planeswalker
Unknown =/= Gender Neutral
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/100370457338/what-is-ashioks-gender
>>44344395
That and that there were black people in fantasy Greece.
Tards gonna tard.
>>44330917
This pisses me off more than Kiora Atua's retcon.
It wasn't even a fucking offensive name. The Maori are thin-skinned faggots who complain about everything.
>>44346589
It's worth noting that, given the way the Mardu work, it's implied to not be something really WORTH mentioning in the set's flavor text.
Sure, one pissed off dude brought it up in the middle of an argument. But the rest of the Mardu reacted as if that were an out-of-line response.
I'm not saying their depiction was good, but rather that this is the hopeful goal of most transgender people: to be treated as their gender without comment.
Personally, I was more irritated that the story implied it was the helpful orc's own fault he wasn't named, because he kept saving other orcs rather than letting them die, then implied he could just claim a war name because of what he did. I mean, I get the core message was "stick to your principles", but they handled it just as shittily as the rest.
>>44347885
That pissed me off a lot, too. And then they tried to say it was offensive in Maori.
It isn't. Kiora isn't a fucking work in Maori. One fucking Maori poster was offended because Kiora was SIMILAR to another Maori word that meant "hello (informal)".
It would be like if someone made a character called Bo God.
>holy shit, Bo God
>that sounds a lot like Yo God
>[triggered]
In Maori, Kiora Atua means "god kiora". And considering the fact that she's a planeswalker and the events on Theros, that's hardly offensive at all.
Fuck the Maori. Nuke will come soon.
>>44347755
I can't wait to revisit Theros because three things are about to happen.
1. We'll get a new Ashiok
2. Dack Fayden gets a reprint
3. Ashiok and Dack will get into a fight
>>44347755
>>44347714
If you all don't feel like being cherry-picking assholes, you could also use
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/62583190539/so-is-ashiok-now-confirmed-for-being-male-because
where MaRo says " Ashiok does not choose to use labels".
You could also refer to Doug Beyer's comments.
Ashiok is WILLFULLY gender-unknown. Ashiok does not want you to know Ashiok's gender. That forces Ashiok into a gender-neutral zone, because Ashiok wants to remain as ambiguous as possible, in order to abuse fears latent to interactions with both genders.
>>44348150
And don't forget the fourth
4. It will be complete shit.
>>44347228
>>44347082
>>44347714
There was no listed reason for Alesha wanting to identify as a woman but the reason for wanting to identify as another gender is 99.9% that you feel more comfortable as the other gender. It's safe to assume the same for Alesha and being that she was unnamed until she gained a war name it feels really dumb to argue about it. It's not a Ross to Sophie effect it's literally this kid wants to be a girl and has no name so let them name themselves what the fuck ever because some fucks are gonna call themselves god damn Zurgo in the future.
The grandmother bit was just what she wanted as a name
>>44347068
Tips Fedora would be a good name for a Star Wars character who doesn't believe in the force.
>>44348170
DESU I like Ashiok's whole
>Implying I need labels
>Implying You know shit
>btw I'm under your bed.
