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Who is your favorite 'caster/'lock, and what are your favorite 'jacks/beasts, units and solos?
Extra Points for detailing why you like them.
And here are these things for those who don't have them.
>>44303496
>>44303523
>>44303496
>>44303523
Are these alternate-timeline Warnouns?
If so what book are they in?
>>44304116
They were from some sort of exclusive Press Ganger only event, but some PG's were nice enough to upload the card stats.
There are more, but I don't have them.
>>44304473
so I'm a new PG and we just got done with my store's first journeyman league that ended with a 35 point tourney. for 2016 what should I don next? I was thinking a narrative league starting in february but I know the new narrative league rules go up in march. what should I do?
Borka 2. Ultimately a hipster choice and I think I'm the only one who REALLY like him. Very good on clock, scenario and aggression. Had 70% win rate last year playing him.
As for jack, spriggan. I would argue for best noncharacter jack in khador.
Fire eaters are the best unit ever
Andrei malakov for favorite solo. Such a game changer for khador.
>>44304679
Narrative league sounds like a good idea. My best games are ones where my opponent and I get engrossed in whatever bullshit storyline we invented for the fight.
Strictly competitive play is fun for some, but I do think that the narrative side will net you better player feedback.
So I threw this list together for a little casual list to run at the shop every now and then. Whatcha guys think?
Faction: Retribution of Scyrah
Casters: 1/1
Points: 35/35
Issyria, Sibyl of Dawn (*6pts)
* Chimera (6pts)
* Chimera (6pts)
* Griffon (4pts)
* Manticore (8pts)
Dawnguard Invictors (Leader and 9 Grunts) (10pts)
* Dawnguard Invictor Officer & Standard (2pts)
Mage Hunter Assassin (2pts)
Narn, Mage Hunter of Ios (3pts)
>>44306242
Too many lights. Need more muscle
>>44306275
Which would go better, a Daemon, Hydros or Hypnos?
>>44304473
That's pretty cool. Did Legion get one?
>>44306335
Daemon. Hellmouth gun is useful
>>44306513
How's this?
I'm completely new to Retribution as nobody in my meta plays them.
Faction: Retribution of Scyrah
Casters: 1/1
Points: 35/35
Issyria, Sibyl of Dawn (*6pts)
* Chimera (6pts)
* Banshee (10pts)
* Daemon (9pts)
Dawnguard Invictors (Leader and 9 Grunts) (10pts)
* Dawnguard Invictor Officer & Standard (2pts)
Arcanist (1pts)
Narn, Mage Hunter of Ios (3pts)
>>44307077
Could be better, but it's more serviceable than the previous list
>>44306242
Too many jacks. You want more infantry, Issyria gets more out of troops. Ideally you want at least 3 units by 50, so two will work for 335. Something like:
Issyria, Sibyl of Dawn (*6pts)
* Banshee (10pts)
* Sylys Wyshnalyrr, the Seeker (2pts)
Houseguard Halberdiers (Leader and 9 Grunts) (7pts)
* Houseguard Halberdiers Officer & Standard (2pts)
Mage Hunter Strikeforce (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Mage Hunter Commander (2pts)
Arcanist (1pts)
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution (3pts)
Houseguard Thane (2pts)
Mage Hunter Assassin (2pts)
Mage Hunter Assassin (2pts)
Would probably do better.
>>44306358
No idea, but another anon may have the rest
>>44306242
Do you own Sentinels? Issyria loves Sentinels.
>>44308962
>>44308999
>>44309016
>>44308999
Wow, thanks anon!
>>44308962
I don't play much anymore but I know there is a store down south from where I live. I believe the PG inherited them from the former.... former quartermaster.
They have them on display in a glass case.
I'll be sure to snap a picture of them next time I am there.
>>44303496
>>44304473
These have been floating around for a while though? Like I swear this past summer or even earlier these were being posted around.
How Do I fight using ashlynn? So far I just popped feat and attempted to murder everything
It was a mistake to think I could paint an entire Cephalyx army before Christmas
>27 Drudges, 3 Cephalyx, 2 monstrosities, and 1 Warcaster down
>18 Drudges, 11 Cephalyx, 1 monstrosity and 1 Warcaster to go
Please, kill me now
I don't have a favorite 'lock or caster yet cause I'm pretty new but so far I'm really happy with Lylyth1. Using blood lure to get rabid shredders free charges catches a lot of people by surprise.
Anyway the guy who hosts all my groups games and builds all of our terrain plays Trollbloods and since he puts in work for our group I wanted to get him a solo. He has the Battlebox as well as a Mauler and pGrim.
Should I get him
>Janissa
>Trollkin Hero
>Fellcaller
>Stone Scribe
Feel free to write in your own suggestions if you don't think any of those are that great.
If I take control of a farrow brigand, kriel warrior or holy zealot with eSeverius' feat, do I get to make a prayer?
>>44316436
Reread his feat. You can only take control of grunts, Grunts can't make prayers
What impact have the colossals had on the game? I got out shortly before their introduction, but I'm getting back in soon and I'm mighty keen on the Conquest (and eventually Victor) but I don't really know how they go.
>>44314339
That's basically it
>>44315887
I can but you have self sac.
>>44316329
Any of those are great
>>44318502
Conquest is only really good against other colossals really. Colossals have allowed Mercs and cygnar to have a very strong defensive and offensive presence. Colossals have mostly obsoleted heavy jacks for some factions. The biggest impact with existence of colossals is that shooting is very strong and mass infantry swarm that isn't cryx have died down significantly.
>>44318562
Colossals have also rather reduced the power of warjacks and warcasters that rely on power attacks/knockdown as you can't move or knock down a colossal.
>>44318562
>Conquest is only really good against other colossals really
Conquest actually does a tone of work provided that either you bring a rat fixer or you crit with the main gun.
Granted he doesn't have access to an arm buff, but upkeep removal is fairly common so having innately beefier stats can be just as good.
Its also overlooked that he has the most boxes. Having an extra 6 boxes over a stormwall can mean he hangs in their when another collosal would fail, and even if the arms are out pow 22 fists do some serious work.
>>44313214
That'd be rad. The complete pdf with card art has become impossible to find.
>>44313882
They need to be recirculated every now and again. They're not in demand enough to be hosted constantly.
Question on Mercs Sea Dogs and Press gangers,
Will I ever use more than one 10 unit of these in a single game? i have a galleon and 1 unit full unit of these two with bunch of added solos for 35pts. Should I be adding more of these to go up to 50pts, or just bunch of more spec units?
>>44303470
Caster- Gaspy 2&3: hes sexy.
Heavy- Bronzeback- cool modle, want to paint one
Unit- tie between bane thralls and sayxis raiders- standards for their class- arm cracking and jamming
Solo- Darragh Wraith- such a clutch piece with so much utility, plus a great sculpt imo
>>44319516
Double Press Gangers plus Hawks is one of the best packages in the game
>>44315887
Only 9 more Drudges to go. Then I guess I'll have to base everything
>>44320145
Fun times. I still have to base dragoneghra
>>44315887
How detailed are you going with them?
I would get fed up really quickly and just wash/drybrush a quick flesh and metal scheme for the drudges.
These guys took nearly a week to assemble, base, and prime, and they're likely to stay this way for a long, long time.
>>44319516
If you bring Press Gangers, you can expect to use a few more Boarding Crew.
>>44322742
>base dragoneghra
Buy Haley2, Haley3 and both variants of Haley1. Then use 6 different dead Haleys to decorate Dragoneghra's base.
>>44323458
More than was probably necessary
>>44307077
drop the daemon. srsly, it's bad and you should feel bad.
If you want a cheap heavy jack go for a sphinx.
>>44308663
bullshit. 2 WJs is the minimum for ret.
they are the ultimate midline faction. They aren't the best at any one thing, they have to combine arms.
using just one WJ is begging to be spanked. Oh what a suprise, Ret gets spanked all the time !!
I wonder why? probably because interent knowledge on the faction is worthless.
>>44323458
sea of grey.jpg
>>44329717
It's not so bad in person.
I tried out zenithal priming.
There is an under layer of black while all of the raised portions are white; assuming I don't fuck up the paint job it should make the details really pop.
On that note, what do you guys use to thin your paints?
I need them to be borderline wash consistency.
Water messes with the paint bonds when used a lot, and leads to clumping. The glazing medium I used was okay but left everything too shiny and still wasn't thin enough.
I've heard that regular Windex can be good because the alcohol evaporates quickly and the color doesn't bleed into the ones you mix, but I've yet to try that.
So, I decided to get HARD for masters in april.
I found out the 4 warcasters for the season of merc is:
Fiona the black
Magnus the Warlord
General Ossrum
Captain Phinneas Shae
I'm tempted to go for Shae, and build my forces up to 50pts. I'm still pretty green of the game, but I currently have a galleon and some pirate models. I'm thinking I should probably add some more tanky units and fast outrider sorts, or play around with other jacks apart from the galleon.
any idea on what's good in current meta? or easy to pick up and use easily?
>>44330807
Those aren't the casters for ADR in April
>>44332442
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Actually that's better, i have used montador few times already.
Did someone in another podcast quit Warmachine? What's this about a large turnover of gamers?
>>44323871
That would be silly, but then I would have to buy cygnar modles
>>44330525
I've tried vallejo thining medium, lamian medium (gw) and water, honestly I just prefer water
Would a gun that penetrates through mutiple models be something useful? Like "draw a straight line for x inches if this weapon disables another model."
>>44337197
Better than a normal shot, way worse than a spray. Useful? Maybe, but it seems unnecessary.
>>44337197
Depends on the pow. I would say it would be used a lot, but PP has been defending Colossals and huge bases to death...so it might not fly.
I think it's an interesting mechanic that can be used in more than one faction.
>>44336374
No idea what you're talking about. That said, who cares if another tourneyfag podcaster quits?
>>44337350
It's not just one at this point. I think it's several.
This was bound to happen, much like Focus and Fury in the early days of podcasting.
People just grow up and have to move on. You do your best to grow your community so your absence is quickly filled.It's definitely not helping the perception of Ded James though. Even if its a part of every game system.
>>44337350
I just know of the Ozmachine guys taking a break from the game. It's kind of understandable seeing as they've been playing it ad nauseam for two years of WTC preparation.
>the sky is falling
No it's not.
>>44338338
Yeah I'd quit too after getting crushed like that at the WTC
>>44338546
>crushed
Have you seen the finale? That was crazy close and decided by some pretty bad rolls. It could have easily swung the other way.
>>44338595
Yeah, they lost, badly. They went for a really terrible assassination and lost the deciding game
>>44338684
>really terrible assassination
It was way above 70% chance. And the score was 2-2. How is that getting crushed?
>>44338728
Because they fucked up and lost, badly, after making poor decisions. That's why they all quit
>>44338763
I don't know what to say to you when it is clearly documented fact that you are plain wrong and a fucking idiot.
>>44338797
Ok, well, they lost. That's a fact
They then bitches about online and then quit shortly afterward. I don't what your problem is but try and be less of fan boy before posting. No one cares about the Ozmachine guys
>>44338850
Yes. Obviously I must be a fanboy, as I have the magical insight to see that a match with a 2-2 score, lost on a failed >70% assassination is not a "crushing loss". I'm fairly certain you haven't even seen the games.
I appreciate you're trying to keep this thread afloat, but baseless shitposting is really not the way to go about it.
>>44338913
Have you done the math then shitlord? They decided to go for an all in assassination where if they failed the game was over. They were forced into an assassinate or lose and they lost and then they quit
That's a pretty crushing loss, but whatever. Keep arguing about it, I'm sure the Ozmachine guys appreciate the plug
>>44319034
I play him nearly every other game. He gets work done if you drop him into the right stuff.
Other colossal on the table, he will kill the fuck out of it.
Enemy likes to brick up, crit dev here we go.
Enemy force is majority low ARM, good fucking game.
To be fair, the Finnish guy that the finals game was against is apparently known locally for baiting out the assassination with Deneghra, under her feat and all.
Finland just played better this time around.
>>44339066
>They
You really need to stop talking like the entire Australian team played this specific match.
It was 2-2 and Moorhouse lost what should have been a good shot at assassination. If the Weight of Stone had gone off on Deneghra then there was pretty much no way she would live after that. The Australians were in no way "crushed".
>>44339112
Yeah I heard of that. It takes some balls to do that in the deciding game of the WTC finals match. I'd like to be able to read people's minds in moments like these.
>>44339066
>Have you done the math then
Yes I have. I'm fairly certain it was even done on the stream. Now watch the game before making any more baseless assumptions.
>>44338913
Dude, this bait at best and a genuine idiot at worst. Save your energy
>>44339218
No mercy for tourneyfags.
Why support a bunch of whiney cunts who cry after they lose a tournament?
>>44339602
Especiallly since afterwards they along with most of muse on minis turned to gobble the baby custard from some guild balls.
>>44339621
Pretty much. They can't hack it at the WTC multiple years in a row and then turn into Guild Ball shills
Why do people give a fuck about these guys again?
How does this list look?
Kraye
Stormclad
Stormclad
Sentinel
Sentinel
Hunter
Hunter
Stormblades + UA
Rangers
Strangewayes
I don't want to run the stormwall in the list, as I want to make use of Iron Horse, but I feel like I'm paying 40 points for the same offensive output as a single 19 point model.
>>44337197
the modulator in convergence does that kinda. you target a guy and then on a direct hit, everything in a direct line between the modulator and the thing that was hit takes a pow 10
>>44303470
>OP
>can't even copy/paste the right thread header
Fucking retard. You had one thing to do.
Here's the proper pastie with NQ63
>textuploader <dot> com / 5f980
>>44319034
>Its also overlooked that he has the most boxes
Second-most, Hyperion/Helios have two more counting Force Fields
>>44337290
>>44337310
>>44341447
I wrote this up, trying to see if the idea would work:
Penetrate
"Weapons with Penetrate can hit multiple models granted that the maximum range of the weapon has not been reached and that the primary target was disabled. Measuring in a straight line starting from the base-end of the primary target, roll a POW 10 (maybe 8) roll on each model in that line, then measure again if that model is disabled. Penetrate does not need LoS and retains only the magical weapon quality of the weapon.
The last line is so that the bullet can't do multiple AoEs, or Continuous things I didn't want to make it too powerful, and wanted it to used on conjunction with Sniper, as I thought this up while using my Widowmaker Marksman..
>>44342789
Shit, i meant "the first model in that line, then measure again..."
>>44342789
So how is this not a worse, more complicated spray? What does it accomplish other than create rules bloat?
>>44343699
It allows for piercing ranged attacks at greater than rat 4/5.
>>44343813
It would also benefit from Snipe, which is an interesting concept.
>>44342789
There is a reason why pp got rid of lines in abilities and attacks in mk 2.
No
>>44344442
>Just make an icon
So, there is a steamroller event coming up at my LGS (35 points) I've decided that I'm definitely running my eLylyth list, but I can't really figure out which warlock to run for matchups that will wind up going attrition. I'm thinking about Thag1, Kallus, or Vayl1. Here is my eLylyth list:
Points: 35/35
Lylyth, Shadow of Everblight (*5pts)
* Naga Nightlurker (5pts)
* Nephilim Bolt Thrower (6pts)
* Ravagore (10pts)
* Ravagore (10pts)
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew (Leader and 1 Grunt) (1pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
Succubus (2pts)
>>44345815
That's got nothing to do with it
>>44343813
Auto hitting damage rolls in a straight line is not only really dumb but the rule is overly complicated and honestly dumb. Sprays already exist, this serves no purpose
>>44349252
So dumb in fact I felt the need to say it twice.
>>44349297
Wait, is it dumb or not? I can't tell
>>44349252
OK.
Whoes everyones current bae? Mines Gaspy3, he just does so much.
>>44355029
Your mum, she sucks me off after anal.
Tell me about the Testament of Menoth. Why does he wear the mask?
>I've been out of this game for aeons, and I'm curious if Testament is still bad.
>>44349942
It's dumb
>>44344442
>There is a reason why pp got rid of lines in abilities and attacks in mk 2.
w-what happened to storm smiths?
>>44355845
nothing
>>44355905
So stormsmiths are still making line attacks????@?!
>>44355176
He got a new tier list which is kind of fun (but not competitive, just lodes of knights/paladins/vessels), but he's on the whole still bad.
>>44355987
yes. big long electrified lines of coccaine
So how's about those paladin units, eh? I can't wait to see what they do. Hopefully they'll start previewing some stuff from the next book soon. Or, you know, release the collosals from the last one. Or Heck, we could shoot for the moon and hope for the jacks from three books ago.
>>44357183
Warmachine models?
What's Warmachine?
t. PP
R8 Muh 50pts list plz
Mercs: Tier 3 Montador, coasts list
Captain Bartolo Montador(*5points)
* Galleon(18points)
Press Gangers(6points)(10models)
Sea Dog Boarding Crew(8points)(14models)
* Mr. Walls, Sea Dog Crew Quartermaster(2points)
* 3 Sea Dog Crew Riflemen(3points)
Master Gunner Dougal MacNaile(2points)
Doc Killingsworth(2points)
Dirty Meg(2points)
Press Gangers(6points)(10models)
Bloody Bradigan(2points)
Sea Dog Deck Gun(2points)(2models)
Sea Dog Deck Gun(2points)(2models)
So, 2x10 4+ Tough combat blogbs, and gunline of crew... and the giant galleon booming behind them with hotshot upgrade, meg disabling jacks trying to charge in, brute guy charging into weak gunline... my plan sounds viable at all?
>>44359115
I'd trim off bradigan and some sea dogs to maybe get a Nomad or a mule so you can get some more heavy hitters. With batten down the hatches it actually brings the merc jacks up to a reasonable level. Personally I like mules, but the nomad is cheaper.
>>44359442
Wouldn't that screw with my Montador tier level?
>>44359461
You dont need Bradigan for the tier list, and you only need 2 units of pressgangers. If you just reduced the size of the seadog crew from max you could get some spare points.
Also I could be wrong, but I dont think Mr. Walls is in that tier list. Honestly its not one of the better ones out there, light arty has never been good in Warmachine, and deckguns are no exception.
>>44359708
Ahh ok, I was going for a pirate themed list for now, but I think i need to prepare for masters in April, so... maybe turning over to 4star system and start trying all kinds of nasty units are in order...
Any recommendation to this? I literally have used about 4 units in mercs army...
