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2nd for 80's High School

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3rd for shitty fighters.

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>>44293628
say that to my face fucker not online, see what happens

>>44293628

Eh, Wasn't Clone Palpatine handing them out to his Dark Knights or whatever the fuck in Dark Empire? They can't be THAT shitty. Hell, the fact they HAVE shields makes them worlds ahead of most TIE's in my book.

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Some say he never blinks, and that he roams around the woods at night foraging for traitors

repost as I missed the new thread:

As someone who has a pretty encyclopaedic knowledge of Star Wars I have to say my favourite part of TFA was all the shit that I had no idea what it was. I'm almost holding off diving into the visual dictionary books because right now I how I was when I was 8. There is the alien that looks like a goat thing or the droid that has a microphone face. I don't know their rich lore or names or anything and there's a purity to that.

That said I wouldn't mind a few more familiar aliens as set dressing in the other films but it really hammered home that the universe is fucking huge.

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>>44293695
5th for fighters better than the Howlrunner

>>44293775
Yep there's a whole lot of new and cool stuff there.
I kinda liked the riding droid/cybernetic animal thing who's rider captured BB8, whole new cantina full of weird arse aliens as well

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I like the idea behind this landing ship.

It's for when you need as many viable field command posts landed as quickly as possible. It functions as a command post all on its own and carries one of these http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PX-4_Mobile_Command_Baseplus two Chariot LAVs and 12 speederbikes plus troops as escort.

>>44293497
>Poe killing TIE-FOs left and right like it ain't no thing.
>Snipes stormtroopers on the ground as he flies past.
>Flies through a tiny crack in a wall and proceeds to chew everything to pieces.

PS 8 seems really insufficient, considering.

Also, anyone find it funny that the only other T-70 to get a named pilot was a guy that died? You think we'll get asian chick and fat white guy in a later wave?

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Anyone have a rip or a working torrent for the Star Wars Visions book?
I was just thinking how I'd love to see Syd Mead's take on the Star Wars universe and that book happens to have some art he did.

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>>44293775

Yeah, it made Star Wars feel new, as if everything was a blank canvas, waiting to be discovered

>>44293497

Somethingth for "can we talk about Keeping The Peace" yet?

>>44293902
>You think we'll get asian chick and fat white guy in a later wave?
They both got a name here >>44284230
And Nien Nunb has had a name since Return of the Jedi.

>>44293902
Yeah, noticed both of those. Snaps being recon could lead to some cool abilities. Maybe Poe's recklessness puts him in harm's way enough to drop to 8?

>>44293775
Agreed.

>>44293941
I will say Abrams did a good job of getting the used sci-fi feeling that the prequels so woefully lacked. I loved seeing the sets be BUSY with actual people and things that weren't a bunch of CGI.
Not to mention actual sets and locations that weren't just a bunch of ugly CGI.

>>44293927
Its at the http://www.hungry-ewok.ru/sw/all_books.htm under sketchbooks

>>44293902
The bit where he kills like 6 in a row is pretty much my experience trying to fly in Battlefront. In this scenario I am the TIE fighter.

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>>44294012
Bueno.

Is Captain Phasma the best gril from the new movie?

Ya know what I never got as a Star Wars fan? Why everyone shits in the tie fighter.

>muh hyperdrive
Yeah, well it still clearly can fly around a solar system. Doctrinally this makes sense, the empire doesn't need ties to go to hyperspace- if they need to go to hyperspace they can just bring a Gozanti, or if it's something you are trying to ambush, bring a damn star destroyer and see how that fight goes. It's not like the empire has to do guerilla hit and runs, and clearly they can deploy fighters fast, so it's not like these are big issues that mandate a hyperdrive.

>muh air
Yeah, I would rather not trust my like to there not being a hull breach somewhere, especially in a combat fighter. Cockpit breach on an Xwing? Guess what, you're done. Cracked glass on tie? Fighter is fine, just send it to maintenance.

>muh torpedoes
This is valid, but you very rarely see AA missiles in Star Wars anyway.

>muh shields
We have seen plenty of starfighter battles, shields rarely seem to help significantly unless the plot commands it (see ANH R2D2 getting trashed, vs that one guy who takes a glancing hit and crashed). Star Wars weapons are extremely dangerous, though examples are inconsistent. Even in Star Wars rebels we see larger ships get regularly getting severe damage from small ships, so I don't think the shields argument is actually a strong one.

Idk my autism is hitting with the booze, I just think the tie fighter has an ill-deserved reputation. Doctrinally it makes sense for an army to have a fighter that needs a base or carrier, imagine if the Americans made an F-35 fighter that could fly around the world. That would be expensive and stupid, no need for that when they can deploy them from any number of bases or carriers.

>>44294128
Poe is best grill

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>>44293927
Hm. I am disappoint.
The book was mostly just silly images and different artists doing parody's or their own take on certain bits from the film. This was the only one by Mead and it's just an abandoned Sith world. Would have liked to see some architecture or vehicles.
Oh well.

>>44294192

I liked Poe just from how well he performed in the two games of X-Wing Miniatures I played.

After seeing the movie, he is officially my husbando.

>Do I talk, do you talk? Who talks now?

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I will say I did like this little one from Moebius.

I heard rumour that was in the new movie but didn't see either of them. I assume either it was a lie or they played aliens at the bar?

>>44294316
Who? What?

>>44294316
wow I hit ctrl X rather than ctrl S for my spoiler tags.

I heard rumour that Daniel Craig and Simon Pegg were in the movie

>>44294272
Poe was definitely the most charismatic of the new three, followed closely by Finn's enthusiastic yet autistic been a stormtrooper all my life and what's this shtick.

>>44294342
Simon Pegg was the scrap dealer who was ripping off Rey.
Craig was an Imperial officer, but I didn't see him. If I had to hazard a guess, he was the one Lieutenant yelling at the general as he started to run away.

>>44294342
Craig is the Stormtrooper who Rey force mind tricks

>>44294383
You got that half-right. Pegg was the bug dude on the robo-cow trying to net BB-8. Craig was the stromtrooper that Rey pulls a mind trick on

>>44294157
It's why I like the shield system in FFG, it feels like it represents what you actually see in star wars media.

But, i'd still wish the PCs had some way to avoid exploding like mooks. Placing them in minion wings of diposeable meat shields is not always an option.

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>>44294411
Okay, I read Abrams saying Craig was an Imperial, guess I read officer into that.
Now it makes sense why the voice sounded familiar.

>>44294383
Craig?

Nah.

he was that Stormie Rey Mind Tricked. The one who she reminded to "drop his gun".

>>44293902
I can only hope son of Porkins makes another appearance

>>44294529
Hamkins seems like he'll be around for a bit.

First time coming to this general, and I know you guys probably get this question a billion times so I apologize in advance. What system would be best for running a SW game that incorporates a mix of Jedi, smugglers, Sith, and troopers as player options?

I'm basically the resident "rules guy" in our group so they asked to me to find a good system for a SW game they want to start. From what I can see, the Fantasy Flight games all use the same system and can probably just be mashed together, but I'm not sure how the balance works out when you mix stuff like Force and Destiny with Edge of the Empire. People seem to want to play a mix of things, so not everyone wants to be a Jedi, or a smuggler, or a soldier, etc.

I've literally never touched SW RPGs before so I have no idea what I'm getting in to. Our group has only played D&D, Shadowrun, Mouse Guard, and Call of Cthulhu.

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If I were to go with "Trooper Focused" Daala as a reason for her lack of admiralling skill should she have been closer to Rom Mohc than Tarkin?

>>44294591

Running a mixed game right now, in mechanical terms, the game roughly balances.

Yeah, sure, if your FS PC dumps all his XP into move, he can try and juggle star destroyers in orbit - but that means he dumped all his XP in it, and everybody is on the same XP curve, so the other PCs will easily been able to sink XP into their careers and skills, so they can do stuff like shoot the wings off a space-fly or out-fly TIE Fighters in tub-of-junk tramp freighters, etc. Due to the nature of the Force, FS characters top out probably more powerful, but again, they have to spread their XP around a lot to do it.

My experience with Mouse Guard is limited, but you'll probably find FFG's system most like that, with a drop of say standard RPG qualities from shit like DnD we all have. It's a dice pool (using unique dice) which tends to have narrative consequences to success and failure so you rarely roll a binary state. But instead of static opposition, you roll vs negative quality dice appropriate to the task. It'll take a while to wrap your head around the results (and the book isn't always helpful in that regard) but it runs pretty well once you have it.

Also, if you're in for Starfighters, the combat is a bit tchy, you might want to consider looking at some of the house rules.

>>44294591
FFG should work for exactly what you want. Nobody is able to outshine anybody else at what they do. There's no pesky Use The Force role to take over the pilot's job, for example.

You might want to make a few houserules if you're going to have Sith in the party, because I think low Morality takes control of the character away or something, but other than that go nuts, dude.
>inb4 you can't have Jedi and Sith working together this isn't D&D
>>44294601
Isn't Mohc more focused on SUPERSCIENCE than actual troops? But if you want to, sure.
You could also do General Veers

>>44294751

Technically I don't think Morality forces loss of control of a PC, just a Dark Side PC will suffer lower strain threshold and give the GM more Dark Side Destiny to work with. That, and the nature of morality penalties means that in general you'll probably trend to pull down the rest of your party - gives them motivation to try and redeem you.

Or just shank you and move on with their lives, depends who you ride with.

>>44294822
Ah, see I haven't played around with Force and Destiny so I don't know from mechanics much.
I thought it would kind of work like what I hear the old d6 Star Wars does where if you fall you lose the character by RAW.

>>44294734
That's good to know, our group doesn't really have a problem with "power" gaps between PCs, quite often someone ends up playing a complete non-combat support character. I just want to make sure no one gets outshined in their own role by someone else. Starship combat is something I'm personally really interested in, so I'll definitely do some research on the rules and potential house rules.

>>44294751
I don't think we were planning on doing Jedi and Sith in the same party, but we'd like the potential for a "evil" party to be there or maybe a "secretly Sith" party member. The guy who is going to be running the game is pretty hardcore into Star Wars, so I doubt he'll let any big inconsistencies fly.

>>44294751
Mohc Was SUPERSCIENCE enough to get her assigned to the Maw.

But he was also the Senator Armstrong of Star Wars.

COMBAT EXOSKELETONS SON.

HE PUNCHED BATTLE DROIDS FOR FUN.

>>44294862

Support characters actually work really well (especially in starship combat) in this system, though obviously carrying a gun or a baton just in case doesn't hurt.

The FFG system really tries to emulate a lot of the OT, and also now leaning a little toward the Rebels show feel. One medium freighter vs some TIEs and the like works pretty good, has some cinema to it, but not likely to kill the PCs (that's what Scum Y-Wings are for). Medium ships on medium ships plays okay, and generally, playing as fighters vs a single capital target also seems to work okay. I haven't gotten my own group up to capital on capital ship combat yet. But RAW, dogfighting is real hairy, it's very easy to get blown out of the sky in a single strike - which while it kind of lends itself to how the OT looks doesn't always make it a fun distinction for a PC. Especially given that in say, AoR you can start play working out of Y-Wings.

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>>44293628

I leave for a few days to keep myself spoiler free and watch the movie, and you guys come in and start insulting my girl?

>>44293695
You have great taste brother.

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The visual guide refers to some of the writing on the helmets as "Abednedish" although they shall have Arubesh writing elsewhere.

Anyone else heard of Abednedish?

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>>44295466
Howlrunner a shit, Pinook 4 Lyfe.

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>>44295556
You crazy glorious bastard. I will accept your slight on the Howlrunner this time just out of respect for the crazy that just came out of your mouth.

>>44294601
She should be rhom moc's protege, but nothing even vaguely romantic between the two; commando skill and victory by punching the very best battle droids in the galaxy in the face should be enough. Waifus and/or husbindos are at best a secondary consideration.
Just think, what kind of prople would a woman who beats S-ranked gladiator droids barehanded date? Not tarkin, that's for sure.
If anything, rhom moc would be like " hey, here's my teammate from the [space foxhound] unit who is the greatest sniper in the galaxy but refuses to wear a shirt and doesn't sleep. You'd like her"

>>44295591
Just you wait, soon the glory of the Pinook will be spread all throughout the Galaxy. Everyone shall shake in fear of it's name and soon THE RISE OF THE SONS OF ALDERAAN SHALL COME.

>>44295104
The problem with FFG dogfighting is that a top ace doesn't have a noticing difference in dodge chances VS a green rookie; the simplist fix would be to add pilot skill as black/purple dice to attack rolls.
Otherwise, it's feasibility lethal. It's issue is that it doesn't account for pilot skill

>>44295516
Ello Atsy is an Abednedo. So it's his species language.

>>44295685
I don't think she'd be quite up to Mohc's Gladiator droid fighting but a bit more of a generalist.


And she'd be more Boss than Quiet or whoever you were implying.

The Joy's "God I fucking love War sometimes." attitude fits Daala pretty well too.,

>>44295765

Yeah, I've gotten a lot of mileage out of making combat checks and GTA checks opposed with the opponent's pilot roll (unless it's a minion swarm), it tends to mean that PCs last longer in a scrap, mooks explode in droves, but actually good NPC pilots also can go toe-to-toe.

>>44295768
Ahhh that guy. Also I just looked him up and

>The pilot's name is a reference to the album Hello Nasty by the hip hop group Beastie Boys

What

>>44295516
>tfw they didn't bring back Wes Janson even though the actor loves his EU character

Wes... Wes had a hard life. Yub Yub commander.

>>44295855
Maybe Wes was promoted to be an officer by that point so he'd be with the Republic Fleet rather than the fighter boys. I wonder if Wedge was with the fleet that got vapourised by the Starkiller Base

>>44295835
>Asty's helmet had "born to ill" written on the side of it in Aurebesh.

This guy is secretly the best new character

>>44295912
You shut your whore mouth.

>>44295835
Welp. JJ found a way.

In what order was the rebellion's ships researched? I know the Y-Wings were the first ships they used, and the B-Wings the last. Am I correct to assume Y-Wings, X-Wings, A-Wings, B-Wings?

>>44295928
He's also dead, so there's that.

>>44293775
Agreed on all counts.

>>44295951
In Nucanon it's Apparently Proto-A-Wings that we see first in rebel hands, though Y-Wings are confirmed in Republic hands first.

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>>44295516
Snap Wexley, 10 times undefeated hot dog eating champion and definitely the son of Porkin's

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Edgy as the twin double-blades and stripper-flasher outfit are I really like the tattoo pattern on this one.

>>44295951
Depends on the cells. Keep in mind that there's a thousand scattered cells lying around, each using what they can. There might be some old clone pilots that have been running Y-wings against the Empire since the day it ended, while the rebels rebel cell has A-wings and B-wings 5 years before Yavin but are missing the dependable workhorses that are the Y-wing and X-wing.

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>>44296013
Got to be one of the worst jobs in the galaxy, Sith tattoo artist.
>Does this hurt?
>ggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lksCXH49DA

Caravan of Courage is on Youtube.

I need to rip it before my internet dies in half an hour.

>>44296003
he's actually the kid character from Aftermath with the modded B1 Battle droid called Mr Bones. I was surprised when I found that out

>>44296043

It's not really fair to say that the Rebels cartoon gives access to the B-Wing 5 BBY. It's just the singular (flawed) prototype at that stage, which then they ship off to Slayn & Korpil to mass produce.

In Legends, the "Spearhead" was rolling around years before Endor to fill the A-Wing role in vidya (and the Rebels A-Wings have slightly different design aesthetics), and the X-Wing wasn't introduced until 1 BBY at Turkana.

>>44296152
Holy shit, damn I'm gunna have to re-watch that later

>>44295776
I was actually implying that rhom was vaguely liquid-ish and shipping her with wolf. But yeah, she could easily be the Boss/joy for an lR cobra unit (presumably without the tragic end, since in star wars the Boss, the Cobra Unit and Naked Snake would instead end up telling the Jedi what's what and spend the next decade lightsabering and CQCing the philosophers and/or patriots to death one by one)

>>44296163
True that 1 prototype doesn't equal rolling around everywhere, but it is fully researched by 5 BBY, or at least very nearly done. Only questions left is when the X-wing and the A-wing falls on that timeline.

>>44296163
>>44296043

Also, NuCanon A-Wings are a Kuat Systems Engineering project, apparently. Which, retroactively makes sense, looking at the various Jedi fighters, so I'd guess we'll probably end up with a "This was Kuat's attempt to win the TIE contract, which went to Sienar. Or maybe it was going to be the design, but then Seinar scooped those engineers.

And A-Wings canonically hold concussion missiles, but the Phoenix Squadron pilots have never once attempted a missile attack.

Goddamn I need to read Ultimate Star Wars some time

>>44296139
So clipconverter.cc is not registering I turned my adblock off.

I really need that video, can someone make it for me?

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Reposting this from the Weekend Quest Discussion Thread,

I've been kicking around the idea of a Star Wars quest featuring high adventure with no Force-sensitive main characters that follows six crewmates on a freighter (pic related), with the catch being that the players can, at any time, switch between any member of the crew and the primary perspective would then change to that character. They could work multiple angles of a job/mission by switching to these characters, and each would feature a distinct personality, class and species with differing skills, equipment and experience.

What do you think?

>>44296509
I think anons would play each MC the same way personality wise.

>>44296509
do it

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>>44295466
It really is a perfectly Star Warsy ship.

>>44296509
IG-99's Quest

>>44296509
>>44296544
Building off this, perhaps have it as a modified CYOA? Like work out how each character thinks or values or whatever and then present choices in situations that fit that. This should help to curb any tendency to play every character the same.
Or not, I dunno. I don't know how much work that would be.

>>44296544
>>44296586

I would be very adament about establishing the individual character's personality and would reward actively playing to that character's motivations and personality traits. Each character would also be written slightly different from their perspective. The droid, for example, would be a very dry and methodically-written kind of view and his options would be presented as such, whereas a more naive character would be written in a more bubbly style and would have options that would differ from other characters if they were in the same situation.

That's what I would really try hard for, anyway.

>>44296509
>>44296601
here's the problem: /tgq/ group knows how to play one character at the absolute limit, and that's snarkbub the waifu hunter. multiple characters will do nothing to attenuate this; let them do it and you will get multiple characters who cannot do any damn thing but waifu whatever female/feminine characters are handy; more than one "PC" will inevitably lead to them going for more than one FNPC for waifu time without the typical /tg/ quest waifu wars

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I couldn't tell my fiancee this after we saw TFA, but I had to really concentrate on not crying when I learned R2 just got depressed and shutdown for 15 years after Luke left, I honestly felt something in my heart.

>>44296627

Well, I have a current quest that has managed to mostly, not perfectly avoid constant waifu-warring. I think I could pull it off. But I've been in a big Star Wars mood these last few months and I've been thinking about running a quest with the character-switch mechanic.

>>44296654
I'VVVE GOT SOMETHING IN MY THHHROAT
I NEED TO BE ALONEEE
WHILE I SUFFERRRRR

>>44296679
did you have one obvious waifu at the start so that the /tgq/ group would "BEST GIRL TO THE DEATH" over her?
or are you running a quest that's 2edgy4waifus?

>>44296654
It's actually strange, because Luke takes his friend everywhere, even to the swamps of Dagobah.
Unless, of course, Luke did eventually want to be found.
Though why did he leave part of the map in the Imperial Archives what the hell, maybe he's baiting Kylo and Snoke?

>>44296700

No, I've run my quest with no obvious waifus. Whenever a woman character appears, I write her as true to the character I envision for her as I can, and I've never written anyone who started with a complete crush on the main character or existed purely as waifu bait. At least, I don't think so. One of the things I've been complimented on is that the quest doesn't focus on the women or waifus, it's very story-driven and any romance the players has built up for the main character is more organic and directly based on their choices.

That's what I would want for my Star Wars quest, to not have any overt waifu-bait characters, but romance can spring if it is a natural progression for the characters involved.

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>>44293752

To be honest, that guy was one of the few "spoilers" I ran into before see the movie, and I was expecting it to be real dumb/poorly executed.

I am pleased to say I ain't even mad. Tray-Tor is an OK dude in my book.

>>44296701

>deer kaylo and snok
>1v1 me fags
>lol, scrubs
>--luke

Trying to wrap my head around the shit that is the Saga Edition of the wizards of the coast star wars game.
How do I determine a characters Grapple score?
What about Damage Threshold, and what even is a damage threshold?

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So my Edge of the Empire group shaped up to be a meaner, ruder version of the New Hope gang: we've got a whiskey-drinking smuggler and his bloodthirsty Trandoshan bodyguard transporting a Force-sensitive who uses her powers for stealth and stealing.

Now they've found an abandoned Imperial R5 who is being hunted by the Empire because he has a secret which will be a plot hook later. However, the droid also has an addiction obligation. He is addicted to modifying himself and the party's YT-1300. What are some good ways to express this? What are some useful, interesting or unexpected mods for an astromech? The droid was able to bait them into removing his restraining bolt and they never put a new one on.

>mfw the smuggler asks the astromech if there's anything "wrong" with him AFTER removing the restraining bolt

>>44296847

Whatever you do, don't give it an autoblow

>>44296760
You got me/10

>>44296760
>Yo Ben
>You really think that just because you killed my students that you can take me?
>Come get me, you little shit. Bring all your little friends too, like I even give a fuck
>--Luke Motherfucking Skywalker

>>44296701
Imperial Archives? is that mentioned in a book I haven't read because I don't recall that from the film

>>44296906

It was mentioned in the film. The First Order got thier half of the mapdata from the Imperial Archives, and R2 had it as well. Both needed the map info in BB8's chip.

>>44296906
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned..... maybe I'm wrong, but I think Snoke brought it up.
The fact that they know a map exists at all is weird if they hadn't found some reference to it beforehand.

>>44296807
Damage threshold is the same number as the con defense. If damage done to a character goes above their damage threshold, they move down the condition track, which is more or less a 5 step version of bloodied and starts dealing penalties.

>>44296925
>>44296921
I must just have a sieve for a brain, I've seen it twice and I guess that bit didn't stick. I trust it's accurate

>>44296847
Some good ideas might include purely cosmetic changes, voice-box replacement, switching out modes of movement (wheels, treads, dozens of tiny little feet, one big jumping leg, etc), language randomization, adding or removing nonsensical protocols or system restrictions that may interfere in its daily duties (Sorry, I can't touch yellow things sir!), replacing useful tools with useless ones and vice versa, incorporating weapons into themselves, removing all weapons from themselves, makeshift weapons that only occasionally work, replacing perfectly good parts with recently found ones regardless of their quality, and adding buttons to their exterior casing that do things but are not labeled in the slightest.

Consider having the R5 modify its designation each time it modifies itself, perhaps with something like X####, with X standing for Experimental and the #### replaced with how many changes it's been through in total. For extra and totally unnecessary groan-inducing roleplay, have it only respond to its name when the whole number chain is listed, unless the situation is an emergency. "Who is this R5-X0126? My designation is R5-X0128! You must have me confused for some other, more primitive, less awesome robot!"

I hope that helps!

Why isn't Kylo Ren's name Bail?

>>44296982
No, it's Bane

That's why he wears a mask

yfw Rey is the daughter of Wedge

>>44296982

I have no fucking idea considering Leia literally never met Obi-Wan.

Why isn't his name Jacen?

>>44296982
Because fuck Bail. Ben Kenobi.

>>44296982
Because reasons
>>44297018
I know, right? Leia never met him and Han didn't trust him. Of COURSE they'll name their kid after him.

>>44296982
his name is Ben Solo

>>44297034
Both Leia and Han never met Ben Kenobi.

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>>44297040
But Leia still knew who he was. And he saved both of their lives.

>>44297060

He said BEN Kenobi, moron.

>>44296925
The whole map thing was honestly my biggest problem with the movie's plot (ANH rehashing aside).

>Why did Luke leave the map? Did he want to be found?
>If he wanted to be found, why did he go to such ridiculous lengths to obscure his location, including giving half the map to some jediboo on Jakku?
>Why didn't nobody 'cept BB-8 think to check R2's memory banks? Wouldn't that be like your first guess where Luke would put it?
>If the Resistance has a map of the galaxy, would it really be that hard to figure out which slice it matches up with? I mean shit, C-3PO says the destination doesn't match a known system but that's a pretty big chunk of three-dimensional data you could cross reference.
>What's this "Imperial Archives" Kylo is going on about? Why'd Luke put the map in there too? If that half of the map shows which part is missing, why not try sweeping that part instead of building another biggerer betterer Death Star?

>>44296982
>naming your kid after the king of Jobber Planet
>not naming your kid after a venerable Jedi master who literally cannot be stopped as long as he isn't engaged on a flat plane

>>44297034
It's possible he's not named after Kenobi also don't worry this is Star Wars. Enjoy the mystery now before it is explained in a 300 page novel or comic book run.

>>44297060
Luke always called him Obi-wan. In fact, it's only when Luke's passed out and suffering hypothermia that he's wailing "Ben"

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>>44297075
>>44297060
Han met Obi-wan Kenobi, he did not meet Ben Kenobi.

>>44297074
>>44297063
How do you know Ben didn't introduce himself as Ben to Chewie and Han?

or that Luke told them about Han during the 30 year time skip

>>44297070
Everybody thought to check R2, 3PO says as much but he was shut down.

>>44297082

You can say that until you're red in the face, but I have a hard time believing Luke never brought up his nickname at any point.

>>44296948
cheers m8.
What about grapple?

>>44297088
No, BB-8 nudges up against R2 (to wake him up I guess?) and 3PO says "it's highly unlikely the other map piece is stored in R2's backup memory" or something like that after explaining he's been in a droid coma. He specifically says "highly unlikely". Plus R2 is a fucking machine, just open him up and scan his memory core.

>>44297116
Okay, why would they not named him directly after Obi-wan?

>>44293902
>TIE-FO
>PS 8
>T-70

You're one of those faggots that refers to the light side as "Ashla" and the dark side as "Boga," aren't you?

Just call them TIE Fighters and X-Wings. Everyone will know what you're talking about. You're in an anonymous Star Wars thread, we don't really care about your "nerd street cred."

>>44297132

I couldn't say. That wasn't what I was responding to.

>>44297132
because Obi-wan isn't the person that Luke knew. He knew Ben Kenobi the desert wizard not Obi-wan Kenobi the Jedi general.

>>44297162
It's not Luke's kid.

>>44297132
Just as Vader killed Anakin, Ben killed Obi-wan. The machine replaced the man, the hermit replaced the teacher.

>>44297162
>because Obi-wan isn't the person that Luke knew
>Luke knew
>Luke

Well Kylo Ren isn't LUKE'S son

And Leia knew Obi-Wan as Obi-Wan Kenobi, hence the message she left in R2 in ANH

>>44297125
Maybe you can't dig in a droid brain without risking wiping it?

Maybe they just called him Ben because it's a cool name.

>>44297174
He was back to being Obi-wan after he told Luke what the deal was.

>>44297171
>>44297175

so they probably asked for suggestions and liked the name Ben.

>>44297192
hahahahahhahahahahaha

>>44296906
>>44296921

They may not have had it due to Luke leaving it there. It may be where HE found info on the first Jedi Temple and trashed some of it so they couldn't follow him.

>>44293558
>Dat "I shot first." t-shirt.
heh

>>44297125
>>44297191
Maybe. And maybe they just asked R2 if he knew where luke went before he went into low power mode and he lied.

>>44297198
You don't just walk away from 20 years of near-total isolation. It was Ben, the forgotten hermit, who sacrificed himself to save Luke, Han and Leia. Not Obi-wan the Jedi master and general of the Clone Wars.

>>44296958
That was a very helpful post, thank you.

>>44297281

Coveting and stealing parts off of other droids could also prove interesting.

>>44297343
Yeah, I'm waiting for them to tell him and the protocol droid to stay on the ship, then come back to a disassembled translator and an R5 that speaks basic and has arms coming off his shoulders.

>>44293497
Rate my FaD/EoE party, /tg/!
>Mon Calamari bounty hunter "That's Mr. fish to you"
>Zabrak Smuggler (Vlad the Impaler) "I put everything into head butting in case the cops capture me"
>Force Sensitive Jawa. The spiritual and moral foundation of our team "Utini"
>R6-S9 the team leader and honorary Hutt. Only the Jawa speaks binary. Nobody speaks Jawa

>>44297657
sounds like a fun time! What do they shorthand R6-S9's name into?

For anyone who may not have been paying attention to the credits, Nien Nunb is in the movie.

>>44297657
>honorary Hutt
How?
>Only the Jawa speaks binary. Nobody speaks Jawa
Man, I wish more games did language-barrier shit. Now I'm thinking about a Cathar trade ship protecting some guy who accidentally found out some Very Bad Bothan Shit and has a whole bunch of angry credit-fundamentalist Bothans chasing him.

Would Assemblers be a good substitute for knnn?

>>44297684
Is Ackbar in it too?
Is it racist if I couldn't tell?

>>44297713
yes he is. he was also in the credits.

>>44297713
I may have missed it, but i didn't see him in the credits, although i was having a conversation at the time. I thought that it may have been him, but the others i was with said no.

>>44293752
The greatest Stormtrooper ever.
He will be missed.

>>44297674
R6, he constantly says "Call me boss, meatbags!" But all we hear is boops.

>>44297691
How?
On like our second session we were meeting before a Hutt to get our first jobs. The Hutt spends all his time in a luxurious pool with oils, incense and shit. We were doing it more to get our names out there than anything. Nope, R6 goes right up and sticks his electric prod into the water and electrocutes him. We have no choice but to follow along. Then he jacks into a nearby computer and transfers all the Hutts money into our accounts

hey guys, noob question here
How come In TPM people say human reflexes aren't good enough to participate in Pod racing yet the best fighter pilot in the universe is allways a human? Force powered or not

>>44297825
Pod racer controls have lag, the cockpit swings around on the back being in different locations from where the engines are. This means you need to calculate a lot of extra shit which you wouldn't if you were in a properly designed vehicle.

>>44297835
That explains why humans aren't good at podracing.
Doesn't explain how they are better, at piloting really fast fighters in combat, then the races good at podracing

Wow they actually made the first of Daala's ships go straight into a black hole after losing its bridge. That's dumb.

>>44297691
I had a one session WHFRP chaos game with massive language barriers once, it was fun while it lasted.
>>44297805
I cannot imagine an R-Serries of any sort posessing the amperage to off a hutt. Those bastards are retardedly well insulated. To the point smaller blasters need an eye or mouth shot to kill them.

What's the deal with chrome girl in the new movie?

She did fuck all, then she's dumped into a trash compactor. Are they trying to create a Boba 2.0?

>>44297901
That's exactly what they were trying to do, yes.

>>44297859
multi-tasking vs focus.

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>>44297901

Sources say shes going to be present in all three movies, so likely she's doing a reverse Fett, and might go out with a huge bang

>>44297863
You mean the Grav Generator SD in Rebels?

The bridge was lost at the end, Ezra and Chopper had already ruined the reactor room.

>>44297070
>>Why did Luke leave the map? Did he want to be found?
Likely answer: Saw a vision via Force, did it specifically so Ray would have to go through shit.

>>If he wanted to be found, why did he go to such ridiculous lengths to obscure his location, including giving half the map to some jediboo on Jakku?
See above.

>>Why didn't nobody 'cept BB-8 think to check R2's memory banks? Wouldn't that be like your first guess where Luke would put it?
Because plot.

>>If the Resistance has a map of the galaxy, would it really be that hard to figure out which slice it matches up with? I mean shit, C-3PO says the destination doesn't match a known system but that's a pretty big chunk of three-dimensional data you could cross reference.
Because JJ Abrams is a shitty massively over-inflated and overblown director, also plot.

>>What's this "Imperial Archives" Kylo is going on about? Why'd Luke put the map in there too? If that half of the map shows which part is missing, why not try sweeping that part instead of building another biggerer betterer Death Star?
See answer #1, 3, and 4.

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>>44297978
>mfw she gets put in the recycling bin in episode 8 and tossed into a compost pile in 9

>>44297981
Nah. I am finally reading the Jedi Academy trilogy in my tour of the "Bantam Baddies"

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>>44297990
>Because JJ Abrams is a shitty massively over-inflated and overblown director, also plot.
>durr director dumb

Fucks sake man, space is fuckin' big and not every planet is charted.

>>44296303
Use Jdownloader 2

>>44294601
She would definitely be COMPFORCE. No subtletly, all blunt force. Good parallel to Isard too, since she'd be an ISB affiliate to Isards Imperial Intelligence

>>44295912
No dont you dare.....you can't take the sky from wedge.

>>44298118
I think that dirtside, or in the corridors of a ship, Daala should be very precise. But when she is pressed into an admiral role she would treat her ISDs like blunt instruments out of relative ignorance.

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After 30 years, both of them are retired. Wedge probably went home to start a family

>>44298015
I am not touching JDownloader after the last time it nearly trashed my old PC.

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>>44297743
I think flammenwerfertruppen is probably still out there, burning aliens an entire house at a time.

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>>44298334
Yeah, werf that shit

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http://www.amazon.com/Topps-Journey-EXCLUSIVE-Parallels-Autographs/dp/B015NEVRSG/

Anyone else going to be collecting these?

>>44298329
How bad at PCs do you have to be to get futzed by Jdownloader

>>44297157

Don't be a dick. That is all common X-Wing Miniatures Game terminology. Easier to say TIE-FO than "First Order TIE", and giver how common regular TIEs are you kinda need that quick differentiation. PS as shorthand for Pilot Skill and T-70 (way better than T-65s except for maybe, *maybe*, Biggs. I also have seen Luke and Wedge used well, but these days nobody uses them) are exactly the same.

You don't actually play, do you? I can tell, by the way you got butthurt over the abbreviations.

>>44298527
I'd start with believing the hype about Norton and work from there.

Man, these threads move FAST. I fell asleep and now there's pretty much no way I'll get caught up lol I knew we pretty much always had a SWG going but I didn't realize they were tat popular

>>44298580
Psst

Some movie came out recently that might have something to do with that

>>44298529
Wait, does that mean I can't use cards from the original X-Wings with the new X-Wings, or vice-versa? (Same with Tie-Fighters)

>>44298595
Oh, yeah, I can see how that'd make a difference

>>44298610
What do you mean exactly?

So I'm getting a little bored with rebels in xwing.

What are some interesting list idea that aren't just twin laser ywinga or fathan and friend.

>>44294128
Your waifu is shit

SHIT

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>>44298422
No one here? Oh well.

Never opened anything from Topps so I'm pretty excited.

>>44298610
Yes both pilots and the T-70 stats are different from the T-65, they have a different maneuver dial too: T-70 gets a new maneuver

>>44297012
I kind of want Ray's big twist to be that their parents are just st nobodies from nowhere because it's what I would least expect.

I think her progeny might be imperial however because the sabre flashback seems chronological and it starts with what looks the be the interior of an imperial ship. Might even be Commander Shiny.

>>44298727
"No, I am your mother"

>>44298727
I thought it was the hallway in Bespin from ESB when Luke fought Vader.

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>>44298529
>but these days nobody uses them
I still do out of a stubborn refusal to let the Gruesome Twosome go. Funnily enough, so few people in my local meta actually fly T-65s anymore that most players have totally forgotten how to fly against it.

Saw ep 7. Pleasantly surprised. Call me basic, but I found an everydude nobody like Finn more relatable than I find a lot of Star Wars heros.

My main gripe was they didn't focus enough on the other nobody/mundane characters enough. I wanted to know what the deal was with the silver trooper or that scottish gangster was.

Also, I couldn't get over how fucking r9k Kylo Ren was. I swear it's supposed to be a parody of edgelord sith OCs. Plus the Wolf of Wall Street chest beat killed my sides.

>"You're afraid you'll never be as good as Darth Vader."

>"...y-you too..."

>>44298820
>Plus the Wolf of Wall Street chest beat killed my sides
Huh? I thought he was banging his side as a way to mentally tell himself that he can withstand the injury.

>>44293752
A true hero, never forget.

>>44298299

Lawson turned down a part in TFA because he thought it sounded "Boring". He would probably have been in the meeting planning scenes, possibly in place of Ackbar.

>>44298820
>but I found an everydude nobody like Finn more relatable than I find a lot of Star Wars heros.

Same here, that initial escape in the TIE fighter was really good, Poe should have gotten more screen time.
I wish they didn't make the girl such a mary sue tho.

>>44298820
The First Order cast is supposed to have a bigger focus in the next movie if that makes you happy.

>>44298918
Same here, it's insane how she was able to beat Kylo in both fighting and using the force.

>>44298954

You mean after he got shot with a Bowcaster and slashed up by a lightsaber? And even then nearly lost?

>>44293951
She was asian?

>>44298968
You mean after she got tossed 10 meters in the air into a tree but is fine afterwards?
Or about how Ren randomly forgets his force powers mid fight?

Come to think of it I also kinda enjoyed how Han was getting a bit senile in his dealings.

>>44298845
I know, but it just looked too silly.
>>44298954
>>44299003
Dude had a pretty shit day. Got chewed out by his master after making a couple bad calls, having the everloving fuck emasculated out of him, Killed his dad despite having qualms. Never underestimate the power of morale. As much as he reeked 'beta uprising now' you kinda have to feel slightly sorry for him after what he's been through.

So X-wing now includes old EU ships and new canon stuff?

Also have people really moved over to the new ships that quickly?

First time posting in this general
After an introductory game with a friend, I decided to start playing X-Wing (Rebel side)
One thing I've heard is that one of my favorite ships, the Y-Wing, is not that good and I should get a B or K-Wing for a "proper" bomber
Is that true?
Also, what would you suggest for a starting noob player?

>>44298299
I've watched this show for years. I've recognised his name but not the face nor accent, and just never googled him to see what else I'd seen him in.

Jesus fucking Christ.

>>44299037
My problem with Kylo is that all the scenes with him just didn't make me care at all about his character.
Same with Captain Phasma, all that hype for a joke character.

>>44299044
Yep. XWM has both. And a mix of Legends and canon pilots. The new ships have their places in the meta but they haven't completely taken over or anything. Lots of old ships are still perfectly viable and still see use.

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>>44299081
Daniel Craig got the funniest lines too- as 'Worst Stormtrooper' that Rey tricks into getting the fuck out and leaving his gun.

>>44299037
I know senpai, but still wanted that last battle to be less retarded.
Maybe Finn and Rey could have come up with some clever way to defeat Ren since despite him being r9k in space he's still portrayed as a badass fighter since the start.
But instead we got "THE FORCE! HAYAAAA!" and just tanked him instead.

>>44298650
The character's you assign to them.

>>44298723
Blast. I was hoping to be able to use the new X-wing figure for things just because it's blue. Oh well. Thanks!

So my group's using Mongoose Traveller, I tweaked the career term lengths and starting ages (3 years and 14) to make the characters feel more competent at a younger age.

My party's bounty hunter went from a concept of a struggling force sensitive grunt to a mercenary commander who can see days into the future, is looking to buy a Corellian corvette, and has enough resources left over to buy and man a squadron of X-wings.

I never expected the players to have this much power and am now scrambling to figure out their impact on the galaxy leading up to TFA.

>>44299081
I liked him a lot. He's actually an interesting person. A troubled kid playing pretend at being Darth Vader and barely holding it together.

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>>44299081
I found him entertaining due to how pathetic he ended up coming off as. His powerful presence in the Freud was endlessly amusing. Plus I swear pic related is going to be his reveal.

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>>44299044
A surprising amount of stuff in X-Wing is apparently re-canonized, like the Tie Defender and Phantom. As X-Wing remains popular, maybe its even been the inspiration for using those things.

As for the new canon themselves, it's full of some great ships. The T-70 was a great chance to update the far too vanilla standard X-Wing. The ship the game was named after sadly stood as one of the weakest ships, only held up by it's ace abilities up til now. F/O Ties are also a similar update, though more of a side-grade than an upgrade. And it's including my waifu from new canon, so I can't argue there.

>>44299110
He already knows that Snoke is just using him so he must have a plan to betray or something.

>>44298809
>That moment when you realize that your options will be T-65 or T-70 and you'll probably never get to fly anything from the XJ series.

Frak.

>>44298911
But Wedge could probably outfly Poe still! I bet they just didn't want him hogging the spotlight.

>>44298820
Finn was very likable, and had good chemistry with Rey, BB-8, and Han.

But man, Kylo Ren just sucked. I feel like he might've been even worse than Hayden Christensen, to be honest.

>>44298809
Same here. I love flying a triple threat of T-65s. Maybe it's just me wanting to put my Rebel Transport pack to use, but I keep finding new fun stuff to do with all those weird pilots. Got 3 T-70 expansions so I could run the whole crews with integrated astromechs. Plus Hobbie and targeting astromech is a pretty sweet combo. Free U-Turn plus target lock plus action (most likely focus)

>>44299152
>he might've been even worse than Hayden Christensen
Hold your tongue nigga. Adam Driver might not have been that great but at least give him another movie before damning him like that.

>>44299176
I'm basing it solely off the first movie. He has a chance to redeem himself but considering the groupthink hate against Hayden, I think making an initial opinion is more than fair.

>>44299152
I wouldn't go anywhere near saying THAT. They might've gone a bit far portraying him as a very flawed villain, but I liked his characterization. I just wish they didn't down play his threat level so badly having Rey so easily beat him after zero training.

>>44299199
>Rey so easily beat him after zero training
Didn't she grow up having to fend off things herself? I wouldn't say it's far fetched that her training in combat is comparable to Kylo.

>>44299152
>Kylo Ren just sucked

Are you kidding? His humor was on point, his rage was believable and he came across as a spoiled, self-centered child who was used to getting everything his own way.

He was better than Harrison Ford phoning in Han.

>>44299152
jesus, rewatch the prequels stat

>>44299224
You're the one kidding here, buddy. Harrison Ford displayed a perfect aged Han. Every scene with him was amazing and had those pause a screen moments.

>>44299189
>groupthink hate against Hayden

The guy put in terrible fucking acting all through those films. It's not group think as much it is universally evident that it is no good.

Its amazing how many people don't realise they dislike the guy because the film did it right.

He was MEANT to be inferior to Vader and to hate himself for that fact. He was meant to be confused and immature. And it was handled far better than the prequels handled Anakin.

>>44293752
So, I'm getting conflicting memes here.
Is his name Tray Tor or Marauder Shields?

>>44299260
He was barely there. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who suggested having Han get killed. He clearly didn't want to be in the movie and did fuck all of an attempt to get something believable out of his performance.

>>44299285
it shouldn't be Tray Tor since he is extremely loyal. If anything Finn should be Tray Tor

>>44299199
>zero training.
Kylo's due to go back to Snook for extra training, because he is a filthy scrub.
In terms of Rey, she's not a 1st time combatant- tarred the fucking shit out of two guys in the scavenger camp that are after BB8. Those cunts got fucking wrecked.
(Plus- I think she's a Padawan that got dropped off on that planet after the Knights of Ren thing)

Sort of think of it as someone who's been formally trained in fencing vs someone who's spent a great deal of their life looking after themselves in a hostile environment and actually does know how to fight.

>>44299285

He's just TR-8R.

>>44299285

TR-8R.

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>>44299285
Judging by the post you replied to, we could refer to him as ST-166. Problem is that he's neither tame nor a racing pilot.

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>zero training

Why do people keep repeating this nonsense. I see no issue with a competent fighter beating a heavily wounded guy with incomplete training.

>>44299199

Dude. She kicked his ass after he got shot by Chewies boltcaster - which we saw throw Storm Troopers across fucking hallways.

The fact that he was still standing and punching the fucking wound was a surprise. I actually expected Finn to wreck him.

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>>44299224
Guys lets not do this. Ren and Solo in the film were both well done. Just let it be.

>>44299285
His name is not important.
What's important is his message.

>>44299321

Yeah, unfortunately as shown by the Riot Trooper...Finn's kinda shit in a brawl.

Great marksman, shitty infighter.

>>44297082
So what you're saying is the truth, from a certain point of view....

Who else is excited for the comic book run about Luke's hand and Saber questing across the galaxy before retiring at Maz's bar?

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B-wing mounted death star cannon for x-wing when?

>>44299341
I'm really excited to see where his character goes. Rey is quite the mechanic and such but also likely going to end up the Jedi type.

Meanwhile Finn isn't a natural fighter, hell it's the reason he washed out of the First Order so quickly.

>>44299293
Hmm. I guess performance is subjective, but could you agree that Han was pretty decently written? His Alzheimers, losing his edge in negotiations, having ended up in bumfuck no-where massively in debt, it really helped hammer in how much losing his son broke him.

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>>44299344
>Luke's hand
>The Hand of Luke Skywalker
>We already know that Kylo Ren is related to Alderaanian royalty
>He's basically a Jedi Prince
Sweet Jesus.

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I really hope they do an art book for TFA.

This fucking shot alone.

>>44299369

He seems more tactical than she is though. He put together a lot of the info needed to win.

>>44299308
>>44299311
So he was basically just shouting out his name?

>"TRAY TOR SMAAAASH!"

>>44299384
Star Wars Episode VIII: The Glove of Luke Skywalker

>>44299369
>>44299394
I imagine, as a former sanitation worker, the gangster scene and getting as far as he could with the resistance ruse he's going to be a bit of a sneaky bastard/tunnel rat. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

>>44299349
I'm hoping the Rebel Veterans pack includes B-Wing again with Hera as a pilot and Blade Wing as a title. We know the E-Wing is basically a sure thing, but what else they include is up in the air. Probably not the B-Wing, but a man can dream.

>>44299381
Oh, definitely. I have no issue with how the character was written.

>>44299341
True, but until that point we'd never really seen Kylo as a good saber fighter. Just a guy with a sword who spazzed out from time to time.

Finn, shitty fighter aside, at least had his head on straight and didn't devolve in chucking tantrums.

>>44299341
>Great marksman, shitty infighter.
Anyone can shoot guns really with enough training on how a weapon works.
Actually shooting other people is a different sort of training I guess, you override that inner revulsion to 'kill' other human beings... then there's hand to hand combat- which is basically a mix of massive amounts of aggression, training and actually having no problems killing anything!

There is literally 1000's of people in military forces around the world full of those people that don't have any inclination to kill anyone, do their basic, learn to shoot their gun, maybe stab a bag with a bayonet and that's it. They don't want to and probably ultimately, will avoid at considerable cost- killing anything.