Loyal Wives of Weinsberg Edition
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Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.
List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit
List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R
ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes
/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/
Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8tatre3vd10yv/Avalon_Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!s9xTTDpQ!CasEjRETeqZsJ5LOzYrJdg
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Ronin
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m8xke04pc3hne2k/Ronin.pdf
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
Desired scans :
Battlegroup supplements
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Hail Caesar! Late Antiquity to Early Medieval Army List
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Germany Strikes!
21st December in military history:
69 – The Roman Senate declares Vespasian as Roman emperor, the last in the Year of the Four Emperors.
1140 – Conrad III of Germany besieged Weinsberg.
1237 – The city of Ryazan is sacked by the Mongol army of Batu Khan.
1361 – The Battle of Linuesa is fought in the context of the Spanish Reconquista between the forces of the Emirate of Granada and the combined army of the Kingdom of Castile and of Jaén resulting in a Castilian victory.
1598 – Battle of Curalaba: The revolting Mapuche, led by cacique Pelentaru, inflict a major defeat on Spanish troops in southern Chile.
1826 – American settlers in Nacogdoches, Mexican Texas, declare their independence, starting the Fredonian Rebellion.
1832 – Egyptian–Ottoman War: Egyptian forces decisively defeat Ottoman troops at the Battle of Konya.
1883 – The Royal Canadian Dragoons and The Royal Canadian Regiment, the first Permanent Force cavalry and infantry regiments of the Canadian Army, are formed: .
1907 – The Chilean Army commits a massacre of at least 2,000 striking saltpeter miners in Iquique, Chile.
1936 – First flight of the Junkers Ju 88 multi-role combat aircraft.
1941 – World War II: A formal treaty of alliance between Thailand and Japan is signed in the presence of the Emerald Buddha in Wat Phra Kaew, Thailand.
1963 – The episode of intercommunal violence called "Bloody Christmas" begins in Cyprus, ultimately resulting in the displacement of 25,000-30,000 Turkish Cypriots and destruction of more than 100 villages.
1988 – A bomb explodes on board Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland, killing 270.
2004 – Iraq War: A suicide bomber killed 22 at the forward operating base next to the main U.S. military airfield at Mosul, Iraq, the single deadliest suicide attack on American soldiers.
It is 875 years since the Siege of Weinsberg ended, bloodlessly. Fought within the then-Holy Roman Empire, it was a decisive battle between the House of Welf and the House of Hohenstaufen. During it the Welfs for the first time used 'Kyrie Eleison' for their party cries. The Hohenstaufens used the 'Strike for Gibbelins' war cry.
On the death of Lothar II in 1137, the Welf Henry the Proud, heir of the patrimony of his deceased father-in-law, and possessor of the crown jewels, stood boldly forward as a candidate for the imperial dignity. But the local princes, opposing him, elected the Hohenstaufen Conrad III in Frankfurt, on February 2, 1138. When Conrad gave the Duchy of Saxony to Count Albert the Bear, the Saxons rose in defence of their young prince, and Count Welf of Altorf, the brother of Henry the Proud, began the war.
Exasperated at the heroic defence of the Welfs, Conrad III had resolved to destroy Weinsberg and imprison its defenders. He however suspended the last assault, after negotiating a surrender which granted the women the right to leave with whatever they could carry on their shoulders. The women eschewed their possessions, and carried their husbands on their shoulders. When the king saw what was happening he laughed and accepted the women's clever trick, saying that a king should always stand by his word. This became known as the "Loyal Wives of Weinsberg" (Treue Weiber von Weinsberg) episode. The castle ruins are today known as Weibertreu ("Wifely Loyalty") in commemoration of the event.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6zhcv9i8cgea8w8/Osprey+-+MAA+310+-+German+Medieval+Armies+1000-1300.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7iu6dy19kusz72e/Osprey+-+NVA+058+-+Medieval+Siege+Weapons+%281%29+Western+Europe+585-1385.pdf
Today is the 132nd birthday of the Royal Canadian Regiment. The regiment consists of four battalions, three in the Regular Force and one in the Primary Reserve (militia). The RCR is the senior infantry regiment in the Regular Force, but its 4th Battalion (formerly the London and Oxford Fusiliers) is ranked 11th in the order of precedence among infantry regiments in the Primary Reserve.
The RCR was originally authorized as the Infantry School Corps on 21 December 1883, and established its first three company stations at Fredericton, New Brunswick; St Jean, Quebec; and Toronto, Ontario. In 1887 a fourth Company was authorized and the next year was established at London, Ontario. Now consisting of three Regular Force battalions and one Reserve Force battalion, the regiment's four battalions are now stationed in Ontario and New Brunswick. With many of its soldiers drawn from Ontario and the Atlantic Provinces in recent decades, the regiment maintains a general connection as the "local" infantry regiment for eastern Canada.
The RCR maintains a Regimental Headquarters in Petawawa, Ontario, which has no operational command role but handles regimental affairs outside the responsibility of the individual Battalions. The Royal Canadian Regiment Museum is located within historic Wolseley Hall in London, Ontario. Wolseley Barracks in London has been continuously occupied by some element of the regiment since construction of Wolseley Hall was completed in 1888. At various times Wolseley Barracks has been the home of the Regimental Headquarters, the 1st and 2nd Battalions, and remains the home of the 4th Battalion today.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ngwjh4o3li5qyw4/Osprey+-+MAA+164+-+The+Canadian+Army+at+War.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/iecjasxnzevd36r/Osprey+-+MAA+439+-+The+Canadian+Corps+In+WWI.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/x721yhqf4furfcd/Osprey+-+MAA+359+-+Canadian+Forces+In+WW2.pdf
Does anybody have experience with Lion Rampant?
>>44289798
I've never played it but one anon gave it a memorably bad review some threads back that became memetic. Their biggest issue was with the activation system; their force had sat on its arse for the whole game while the enemy sauntered over and slaughtered them.
>>44289856
Odd, I heard good things elsewhere. I will have to track down the rules and have a look.
>>44289963
the rules PDF is right up there in our OP anon, in the medieval folder
>>44289856
>their force had sat on its arse for the whole game while the enemy sauntered over and slaughtered them.
This was more common than you think in medieval and pike/shot period.
Units had to wait for orders via a rider. Sometimes the rider never came, and units ended up standing around all day doing nothing.
My definition of fun involves laughing at historical accuracies like this. I enjoy when things go badly in a realistic way. These are wargames after all, and war isn't usually fair or even. Winning isn't as important as having fun along the way.
>>44290851
I am aware of this, I think the pip
system in DB(x) covers it well. But IIRC anon did not seem to have a lot of fun with the experience. As it happens there are quite a few blogs around that reviewed it, try googling up some AARs.
I think I need more excuses to deploy my Leopard 2s in my life.
>>44290851
When it's about big battles, maybe, but Lion Rampant covers small skirmishes. When the enemy is walking ten meters from you, and in your general direction, you don't just stand around, you fucking shoot them. And if you don't shoot them, the rest of your gang doesn't do anything either.
>>44296428
Ah I see. Yes definitely for a skirmish level game you want each soldier to be able to act individually, and ideally you only use orders to "boost" certain men: make them do something extra or give them a morale boost, etc.
Skirmish games shouldn't really have limited command control, or you'll get to chess tier
>>44297516
>or you'll get to chess tier
You don't need a 8+ in chess to activate a peasant.
But yeah, you've managed to sum up mynegative feelings towards the game without a single "fuck".
Found some historical army lists for 2HW's Rally Round The King, if you're a fan of that system but don't like the fantasy theme.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rab9m6estomeku6/Rally+Round+The+King+-+Historical+Lists.pdf
>>44293068
These are nice, I have the GHQ German box aswell.
What green do you use for your germans?
>>44298123
>Having to roll to activate
ok now I just straight up hate this system.
I can understand having to roll to activate in, say, a 30 years war setting , but not in a skirmish game...
I wrote a TYW last year that used playing cards for unit activation. Each player was dealt 5 cards at the start of the game, and then 1 card each turn. Number cards allowed units to be moved, and face cards allowed charges to be made. Only the movement was command-controlled, all units could shoot all the time, and units could elect to "join combat" with a normal move, but would get no charge bonuses.
It worked well, meant you couldn't move your entire army all the time, but could still give important orders to whichever unit needed them.
>>44298511
Best part: if you fail an activation roll, your turn ends.
Anytime I see Lion Rampant mentioned anywhere I smile and think fondly of you, Lion Rampant Anon.
>>44298550
Thanks. The best thing to be remembered of is unending rage.
>>44298523
oh thats awesome.
>>44293068
I've been playing a bit of Wargame, pretty keen to get into 6mm late cold war/ moderns.
Found some 15mm ancients and 6mm Napoopans in a second hand/ antique shop in my home town. Heroics and Ros stuff the latter at least.
So what skirmish game would you guys suggest for general medieval stuff?
>>44299526
Song of Blades and Heroes.
guys, hey guys
what if...
you could make your family play a wargame with you while you're home for christmas
>>44299625
Nothing says Christmas in our house like champagne ham, homemade eggnog, and 17 straight hours of Campaign for North Africa.
>>44299625
They're not particularly strategically-inclined so I'd probably win.
>>44299653
>>44299660
> mfw grandma turns out to be the next Suvorov.
>>44299739
>play with mad old Vietnam vet Uncle Keith
>triggers a PTSD episode
>insists you sit in a trench in the back yard surrounded by pot plants while he gets high and shoots at you
>>44299625
My grandpa lectured in soviet history and wrote a book about WW2, but I know his secret love is Russo-Japanese land battles, so If I could play any game with any member of my family, it would be that. No idea what system I'd use, but probably crank Empress minis.
>>44299653
>champagne ham
weak. call me back when you make the switch to Rum Ham
>>44298361
According to my notes, Vallejo German Camo Dark green (model colour) with 50% Khaki (game colour) and flat (model colour) Flat Green.
Go with late cold war if you can, Moderns on the large scale, well, there's a lot of game changing technology. And time lags on equipment for everyone else without it that leaves it at the level of late cold war.
>>44299096
It's amazing what turns up in second-hand stores. Usually it's old GW boxed sets and board games though.
>>44300693
Man, I bet ham with a rum glaze or something would actually be delicious.
>>44301466
Guys, please. I'm already salty that we're having turkey instead of ham again.
Alternatively, does the T-72 sprue got any cool bits we weren't expecting on it, like the Abrams did?
>>44301600
Oh wait, this is not the /fowtg/ thread, haha!
>>44301600
>we're having turkey instead of ham again.Turkey and Ham in this house, why choose?
>>44301643
Because sometimes my ass gets beat and the pants are not on my person. Sad to say. Both would be awesome though.
Anyone happen to have acquired the missing FoF supplements? I realized my Caesar militia and urban resisters would be better used as Talibans than Feyadeen.
>>44301600
Turkey a shit, goose a best.
>>44301963
>>44301643
As long as there's bread sauce, I'm good for anything.
>>44301857
I think interest in FoF has died off, not seen anything pop up for it in a long while in terms of new uploads.
>>44302090
>bread sauce
how can you make a sauce out of bread? Is it just liquidised?
>>44303151
Just squeeze it REALLY hard. Think about Lion Rampant.
>>44303272
Could this be the beginning of an epic new meme?
>>44303347
> beginning
>>44303347
>beginning
>>44303347
>beginning
>>44303151
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/savoury/traditional-bread-sauce.html
>>44303347
>beginning
>>44303666
what is that infantry?
>>44304827
Heroics&Ros soviets. The dark green they are is kinda destroyed by the shadows. Not that they're much to look at anyway.
>>44301466
You better fucking believe it. I've pan cooked ham with onions and made a rum brown sugar glaze to go on top of it. Was amazing.
Campaigns on the Danube is pretty fun, it got recommended in flare path ten days ago and I bought it.
It seems pretty easy though, those Austrians are pushovers and I have not fought any russian divisions yet
>>44305950
>1809
>Russians
Might be a long wait.
>>44306121
Well I played a campaign in 1805 aswell, and they should have been in the fighting. Didn't see them thouhgh. Must have been fooling around somewhere
>>44305950
>hex and counters
ok you have my attention. What is this and where can I get it....
>>44306575
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/282/details/Campaigns.On.The.Danube
You're in luck, it's on sale right now.
>>44306707
I bought it about a week ago, haven't got around to really playing it yet. Perhaps I should.
Anyone have experience with this thing? I've done a couple sessions and I really enjoy it but I'm sorta concerned about what will happen when I play larger scale games. It feels like the designers intended more players than just 1v1.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6540/fear-god-and-dread-nought
>>44306762
I'm in the same boat as you, I have a history of bouncing off games like this. Usually because their tutorials are a bit naff and over-reliant on reading the chunky manuals.
>>44306800
>>44306762
Meh it's pretty good to do, I only read half the manual and I am having fun now I am looking for games like it.
been getting into SAGA recently, and have been playing the Normans in 5 point games.
What should I be doing against armies stacked with hearthguard? Just skirmish them with arrows? Because I'm having trouble against them.
>>44308283
Fight them in detail and crush them with bodies
>>44308368
that simple? just overwhelm them?
>>44308392
Trying to split them up first would probably help.
>>44306121
The Russians participated in the War of the Fifth Coalition.On the French side.
>>44308531
>participated
Not really. Don't think they fired a shot.
They gained in the peace treaty more for maintaining neutrality than for any active threat they posed to Austria.
>>44299807
Based on what little I know about Russo-Japanese land battles (either from the Russo-Japanese war or WW2) they were pretty interesting. Gramps has good taste.
>>44309550
Are they as interesting as the naval battles?
>>44309550
>>44310237
I've always understood the land battles of the RJW to be gory blunders, human-wave attacks on entrenched positions like a dress rehearsal for World War One. Certainly it's notorious for the incompetence of the Russian generals, and the Japanese ones didn't distinguish themselves either. I remember there was a RJW campaign in the Age of Rifles vidya many years back, and it was one meatgrinder after another.
>>44310237
That misses a few details.
> Fleet loses all contact with the Kamchatka on approach to Tangiers
> Eventually shows up after several days, claims to have engaged three Japanese warships, firing over 300 shells
> Actually fired at a Swedish merchantman, a German trawler, and a French schooner.
> Later, fleet leaving Tangiers
> One ship's anchor severs the underwater telegraph cable, removing the entire city's communication with Europe for four days.
>>44310360
Other gems;
> In response to repeated 'sightings' of Japanese submarines and reports of mines, Rozhestvensky orders that 'no vessel of any sort must be allowed to get in amongst the fleet'.
> Two fishermen approach the fleet, get fired upon. Because the gunners were so appalling, they make it alive.
> They were carrying a personal message to Rozhestvensky from the Tzar informing him of his promotion to Vice-Admiral.
> After Dogger Bank incident
> Fleet docks at Vigo, Spain
> Rozhestvensky leaves behind the officers responsible for firing on the trawlers, in an attempt to calm the diplomatic situation
> Also takes the opportunity to leave behind one Captain Klado, who was not really to blame for Dogger Bank, but whom Rozhestvensky simply didn't like very much.
> Klado ended up being recalled to St. Petersburg to organise reinforcements for the squadron, sends only old and obsolete ships as revenge.
> To raise morale, the crew stop off on the coast of Africa to collect 'exotic animals' as pets
> Including crocodiles and poisonous snakes
> Fleet becomes a bizzare floating zoo as the animals are left to roam free on deck.
> Around this time, the refrigeration system on one of the supply ships breaks down, a lot of rotting meat is jettisoned from the ship.
> Fleet spends some time being pursued by sharks.
> At port in Madagascar, morale low because of disease and shit.
> Suddenly a supply ship arrives!
> Carrying 12,000 pairs of fur-lined boots and winter coats
> These were considered necessary supplies for men currently sailing through Equatorial Africa.
> During gunnery practice, one ship's torpedo manages to circle around and head back towards the fleet, causing the ships to scatter in panic.
> Fleet intercepts the mail ship Gortchakoff whilst crossing the Indian Ocean
> Hooray! Letters from home!
> Ship is carrying letters the men sent themselves from Madagascar a month previously.
>>44310815
My (admittedly not brilliant) source on all this, by the way.
http://www.hullwebs.co.uk/content/l-20c/disaster/dogger-bank/voyage-of-dammed.htm
If anyone knows of any proper books written on this I'd love to read them.
>>44310237
No they aren't, Part of the reason I've played RJW naval battles and not the land battles.
Supposedly there was some good maneuver warfare on land though, with cavalry and mass infantry formations. HMGs were a thing though, so bound to be some shocks as cavalry get fucked by an MG position.
Also representing the incompetence of the generals would be fun and hilarious. I'm thinking about limited command control, or maybe a deck of "Awful Orders" that must be issued each turn.
>>44310237
>>44310360
>>44310815
These are so fucking great.
An awkward time of admiralty and early telegrams / lack of decent long distance radio communication. Makes for some hilarious fails
Lav-75
>>44305950
>Campaigns on the Danube
>currently on sale
worth it?
Got my christmas gift to myself a few days early.
So glad it arrived before the holidays.
The blister in the bag is an 81mm mortar with 4 minis.
>>44310883
I just found this site with a whole bunch of free PDFs of books written just after the wars. A lot of good reading to be done
"The Japan-Russia War: An illustrated history of the war in the Far East, the greatest conflict of modern times"
Heh... 1905
>>44320448
>>44310883
Might help if I actually linked the site.
http://www.digitalbookindex.org/_search/search010militaryhistrussojapanesea.asp
>>44320101
> Snickers and Bounty
Unlucky, anon.
>>44321453
what. Those are solid chocolate choices. What u talking about.
>>44321475
> Objectively the worst bits of a Celebrations box
> Solid choices
Alright.
>>44321505
>bounty and snickers are worse than mars, malteasers, plain galaxy, and milky ways.
Ok.
Snickers is top 1 mate.
>>44321541
> bounty and snickers are worse than mars, malteasers, plain galaxy, and milky ways.Actually, rather than argue we should just split a tub between us.
>>44321541
Milky ways is god tier, bounty is ok. Everything else is literally garbage tier.
>>44321553
Justice for all chocolate.
At least every member of the family gets what they like.
>>44321453
>>44321475
>>44321505
>>44321541
>>44321552
People rather argue about the candy than the miniatures ;_;
>>44321564
m8 miniatures are all well and good but chocolate choice is serious business.
Okay, here comes the best opinion empirically and objectively: Bounty is the only bad one out of those
>>44321552
Sounds like it.
>>44321564
What is there to argue about the miniature? They look nice, but I don't have much to say about ww2. Chocolates however...
>>44321593
No, that's the plain galaxy. What is its role?
>>44321614
>What is its role?
Give it to particularly annoying relatives as a sign of "fuck you, get lost"?
>>44321593
>Never seen a Bounty before
>Look it up
What's so bad about a gigantic Mounds bar unless you hate coconut?
>>44322501
Personally it's the texture of the bar while eating it. And I really don't fancy coconut either.
Trying to get into napoleonics, but i don't know where to start. I have just read some ospreys books. What are some good rules set for nap? What about the scale and size of battles? 1/72 seems to be a good choice but i feel it is too big for the battles of napoleonic wars.
>>44323137
1:72 is a really good scale. Cheaper than 15mm metals (sometimes cheaper than 10mm too), tons of sets and variety...
For rules, if you like lots of troops, Lasalle is fine. You'll need a great number of figures, but with HaT, Italeri and so forth, you'll still be off pretty cheaply.
>>44323137
Frankly I think 1/72 is too big, but that all comes down to personal preference and a little bit what sort of army you want to command, and that also affects rules.
For example if you wanted to play a division sized engagement, Lasalle and 1/72 would make a great choice, but if you wanted to play a whole army engagement I think 6/10mms would be a better choice and you would want rules like Blucher or Napoleons Battles or something.
I've done Napoleonics in 10mm recently which I really liked, and I'm doing some in 6mm which I really like as well. Theres an Anon on here with a very nice 1/72 collection so really there is no wrong answer.
As for rules we need to know what sort of battle you are after.
>tfw 28mm Ming ranges look like shit.
I just want a force to field against my samurai.
>>44323416
How about a differently colored army of samurai?
>>44323424
>>44323416
Or some Koreans for that matter?
>>44323462
Or differently colored Koreans?
>>44323424
>How about a differently colored army of samurai?
Not too fond of lacing,I've been up on the Imjin War.
>>44323462
Been thinking about purchasing some Perry Koreans,though their range is slightly anachronistic.
>>44323541
Or maybe Mongols?
>>44323553
Don't have any Genpei era Japanese.
>>44323192
>>44323254
The thing is i still don't understand how the units organization and combined arms works with the size of the battles that someone can represent, in other words i am so stupid that I don't know what is the minimun size of an infantry formation.
I would like to play something that represent or is close enough to 1 figure 1 soldier.
>>44323837
Well, then it's either 3 or 6mm. I use 24-figure units to represent a unit (usually a battalion), or 32, depending how big the unit is in Lasalle.
>>44321564
Accept no substitutes.
>>44319569
dem some pretty tonks.
>>44323137
6mm is king in NapoleonicsIn my opinion
Baccus is cheap and looks pretty good. I have a lot of his work and am pretty happy with them.
Rulesets are a whole different story
About to upgrade the old computer and I just got paid recommend me some good war games I can play on the PC cold war and forward lads.
>>44323837
>I would like to play something that represent or is close enough to 1 figure 1 soldier.
that would be difficult considering the size of Napoleonic battles
>>44323837
>I would like to play something that represent or is close enough to 1 figure 1 soldier
It entails a lot, even in 6mm
>>44323837
>I would like to play something that represent or is close enough to 1 figure 1 soldier.
even small "skirmishes" had like 500-600 men on each side
I know some of you guys love Hex and Chit, and some of you guys love Cold War era stuff, so have an eighties hex and chit cold war game that I've scanned as a Christmas present. No idea how it actually plays since I futzed about with it as a kid, but I plan on at least running it solitaire once or twice when I have space and time. Note that the chits and map came from BGG since mine were punched and rough looking.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/47bdxllss9wszqf/Main_Battle_Area.7z
>>44310883
The fllet that had to die is a good book and rather forgiving of Rozhestvensky which is a nice change for once.
>>44323416
I feel your pain, apparently northstar are doing a ronin sized set and a guy on lead adventure is sculpting a range for 2016 of late ming.
>>44327668
ahh yeah....i remember that game...Omega Games iirc....
dont waste your time. I dont have good memories about that game. Which is kind of a pity as a lot of Omega games were pretty good
>>44329476
Do you recollect what you didn't like about it?
I have three recommendations for people wanting to get into Napoleonic wargaming but who know nothing about the period. The first is a very good, basic breakdown of the various armies, how they were organised, rudimentary tactics, and so on. It's a great casual introduction to the whole thing from a wargaming perspective, the closest thing I think you could get to a set of generic army lists.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/59ddblmhw9bcuw1/Napoleonic+Armies+-+A+Wargamer's+Campaign+Directory+1805+to+1815.pdf
The second book is dated, being nearly 40 years old now, but I still consider it one of the best of its type. In his trademark eccentric fashion Bruce Quarrie gives a great breakdown of everything a Napoleonic wargamer would need to know. His rules system is really outdated now, but his discussion of how he designed it is still valid.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/yz48dg5v3r4fyse/Napoleon's+Campaigns+In+Miniature.pdf
The third is a really well-illustrated casual study from the "Fighting Techniques" series, covering the whole era in detail including stuff like artillery and naval warfare. It is very entry-level, perfect for beginners but far too basic for a more specialized reader.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/j1a9oh3g2726iyq/Fighting+Techniques+of+the+Napoleonic+Age.pdf
Beyond that are the obligatory Ospreys, and the Napoleonic/References folder has all sorts of more detail materials.
I used to play and love Shako but it's a little archaic and abstract for a new gamer I think, so I join the endorsement of Lasalle.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/j52x538adajy2qz/Lasalle.pdf
>>44327245
Shrapnel Games' MBT!
>>44327668
Thanks anon, I'll add it to the Moderns folder
>>44331203
TY based anon, i am triying to get into napoleonic to know how 18/19th century warfare works so in some years i can play some south american independence wars.
>>44330277
hmm..yer asking me to go back about 30 years for details? Not sure i could do that. I dont have any specific recollections-just a memory that it didnt stand out for any reason.
you tend to remember the good games and the good mechanics...i dont really remember anything from that game
Doing a bit of research into the Russo-Japanese land wars. Pretty much just taking notes from the Osprey at the moment. Anyone know some systems for this conflict that aren't naval? Would love to see how others handle this war.
Supposedly MGs were excellent on the attack: They'd move them up to support an infantry attack, firing in enfilade and in a fire suppression role, often from as far as 1000yds away, while the infantry used this covering fire to advance. definitely need to have this use of MGs as part of the dynamic. Units would need to be suppressed by heavy fire, like any good system I guess.
>>44338344
>Anyone know some systems for this conflict that aren't naval?
I would use a WW1 system of some kind. GDW's Over The Top actually has a list for the Japanese and good command rules that would simulate all the incompetence.
>>44339334
Great, thanks. yeah I had a scour through the WW1 folders, I think I already have over the top, will check it out.
I definitely want to do the biggest scale I can on the tabletop, certainly not skirmish level. closer to battalion or squadron level.
>>44339334
I misidentified the wounded Ruskie's arm as the officer's leg and thought the man behind him was making a risky move with his bayonet.
>>44341218
As soon as you said something, I saw it too. Otherwise, that'd be one officer you'd never want to fuck with.
sure is quiet here today. i guess everyone is preparing for christmas.
>>44342057
Christmas truce, m8.
>>44342081
Fun fact: that photo does not depict any kind of Christmas truce. Note the complete absence of snow for one thing. It shows some German POWs and their Royal Welsh Fusilier guardsmen playing a game in England in mid-1918.
There are no photos of the 1914 truces, and no evidence of any organized soccer game beyond accounts of a few guys kicking a ball around.
>>44342109
>There are no photos of the 1914 truce
Actually my mistake, there is one famous one that appeared in the Daily Mirror
>>44289316
Pro Patria, Motherfuckers.
>>44329240
As long as they don't use the Osprey's as a reference they should turn out fine.
>>44342057
Already prepared. Should get on with some painting, it's not like I've a shortage of troops to finish. But loafing is easier.
>>44342109
Best ad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWF2JBb1bvM
>>44342057
Sexy pic there.
>>44342057
Prepping some other stuff after playing another 50-point game of Team Yankee yesterday.
I was using Soviet T-72 tanks (a full company divided 1/3/3/3) supported by Shilkas and 2S1 Gvozdikas vs a US force of M1 Abrams (1/2/2) supported by M901 ITVs and a pair of Cobras. It was my opponent's first game, but he grasped things quite well.
Victory was mine, although I'll give most credit for that to the dice gods; I was rolling well above average while his rolls were abysmal.
One thing to really note from that game: that 80cm range on the Shilka vs aircraft still gives you a huge bubble, especially if you position them centrally on a normally-sized table.
I accidentally moved them close enough to the Cobras to shoot at them on my second turn. That was kind of a pleasant surprise, except for my opponent.
After that game, another local player who had been watching us and wanted to try some proper games borrowed my force and played two more games against my opponent.
Things went pretty well, even though both of them had never played a game with the system before that day. They both do play Flames of War, though.
I really like the game system so far. Units are mobile, weapons are lethal and maneuver is the name of the game.
From what I can find about late Cold War combat doctrine, the game models it decently well without getting bogged down in hyperdetailed special rules, which is a problem I see with many modern warfare games.
The only issue I have so far is that US armoured forces are very fragile morale-wise at 50 points, which is a direct consequence of the high points value of the M1 Abrams. That should become less of a problem as we scale up to 100 points, the default size for an evening-filling game, though.
>>44299625
I'm particularly lucky in that my dad and both brothers are all fairly /tg/-tier (vidya, boardgames, warhammer) but my brothers are nowhere near as interested in /hwg/ stuff as I am.
Also,
>dat pic
Seleukid Empire is best Empire
:3
>>44343309
>never purchased Perry goods
>doomed to an unmerry christmas
>>44343309
> Not 'We wish you a Perry Christmas'
One job.
>>44343309
>Perry haven't made a single miniature I actually have any use for in years.
Damn it Perrys. The last thing I got from you was a cannon and that was like 3 years ago and already from an old, old range.
>>44344411
They way it works is that they release miniatures and than you find a use for them after the fact.
>>44344626
That'd mean having free cash to devote to buying miniatures on a whim rather than for a planned use. Not a luxury I have. Not one many have either, but they have the problem of not letting that stop them buying more.
>>44344933
Oh boy...
"Hey, this guy has a big box of 1:72 moderns, absolutely random, but it fits into the planned Far Cry-esque stuff I want to do, let's buy it."
"Hey, now I almost have enough insurgents for some Afghanistan diddley, and I remember that box of Revell US troops in the supermarket."
"Oh wow, this German Panzergrenadier box next to the US troops is totally on sale! I'm sure they were employed in the middle-east at one point, so why not?"
And so on and so forth.
Wargaming.
Not.
Even.
ONCE.
>>44298562
And none of you grognard farts got a picture of it?
>>44345260
A picture of what?
>>44345283
My dick. I call it the unending impotent rage.
He means the dude's very angry rant about why the game is actually pretty shit.
It's honestly a point about the game's design that I entirely agree with; a game that can easily stop a player having any actions within their turn due to failing a roll is really bad game design. Limiting overall actions is not too bad a thing but it really has to be managed carefully.
The game does not manage it carefully.
I'm really gonna have to give this printed texture on cardboard/foamboard thing a try at some point.
I don't have any suitable projects for it currently though.
>>44349096
>>44349954
>>44350341
That's hot as hell.
>brrrrrmpt
>>44342109
Is that Joyeux Noel?
Great film, my second favourite historical film (after Master and Commander).
Diane Kruger is a literal goddess, and she even goes toples in it.
>>44305282
>Not that they're much to look at anyway
What about Grendel soviets?
Mine haven't been delivered yet. Shipping_in_decemper.jpg
>>44355666
>Is that Joyeux Noel?
No anon, it's actually a chocolate ad from the centennary last year, another anon linked it here
>Diane Kruger is a literal goddess, and she even goes toples in it.
Satanic trips speak the truth; thankfully she goes naked in quite a few things
Ilsa She-Wolf of the SS remake when?
>>44356229
>another anon linked it here
whoops meant to link to >>44342504
My self provided xmas gift is in!
The brit paints are for my paras. The other bottles for my Zvezda Hinds. Really looking forward to chipping and rusting. First time i ordered a vallejo bottle from the train series!
Any tips on chipping?
>>44357266
>Any tips on chipping?
Use sponge from a blister, or something similar, dip it into the paint, wipe out most of it, and carefully dab it on the areas you want to chip.
Check the relevant sections of Mig's FAQ:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zo9oio39b1l2rm6/%5BScale_Modelling%5D_-_FAQ_of_the_AFV_Painting_Techniques_by_Mig_Jimenez.pdf
![Tactical_symbols_wp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w7AWPtG.jpg "Tactical_symbols_wp[1].jpg")
Hey /hwg/
Would anyone here have any resources for marking maps/units with symbols appropriate to Warsaw Pact forces?
I might have missed anything related to this in the mediafire repository - ended up going ahead and asking here.
Just got the first of my 6mm stuff in for Team Yankee/AFFoT and until I paint all the armor, I'll be using small symbols to mark the presence of infantry.
>>44358154
Do you speak Russian?
http://army.armor.kiev.ua/hist/takznaki.shtml
http://army.armor.kiev.ua/hist/takznaki-2.shtml
>>44324242
Mein neger.
>>44342057
I'm procrastinating. Should be writing scenarios but my old collection of Sharpe books is proving mighty distracting.
Merry Christmas /hwg/
>>44359372
Merry Christmass to all of you
>>44359372
Merry Christmas! A new year of wargaming awaits.
>>44359372
Merry Christmas to all fellow grognards.
>>44359372
Fröhliche Weihnachten, Kamerad!
>>44359372
> Celebrating a popish festival with no biblical justification and a time of wasteful, immoral behaviour.
Disgraceful.Happy Christmas to all.
Merry Christmas ya bunch of historical rejects....
>>44358195
I have an incredibly basic understanding of the Cyrillic alphabet and access to google translate + my English/Russian dictionary.
You got me a lot further along than I had been before, thank you!
>>44359372
Merry Christmas /hwg/!
This is the most christmassy image I could find that was thread related. Actual weather here is unseasonably warm combined with pissing it down tier wet and windy.
Also, does anyone have experience with Zvezda plastic infantry? ol' plasticsoldierreview say's they're hard plastic but I don't know if that means hard like most miniatures companies (Renedra, GW and so on) or just hard compared to most soft plastic scale model soldiers?
>>44360535
Their minikits are as hard as it can get. As it's thinner than your average 28mm, it can be a bit more brittle. Their later stuff (WW1 Germans and Russians, and so forth) are bit softer, but still rather hard. Their early ones are soft, but not Airfix soft - somewhere in the middle on the Airfix-Renedra slide.
>>44360580
So no need to go through the whole rigmarole of priming with pva or varnish before paint then? Sweet.
>>44360600
Not really. It's harder than that. Just handle with care.
>>44360535
>plasticsoldierreview say's they're hard plastic
Well my British heavy cavalry said "Plastic (Fairly Hard)" and I'd say that was almost as hard as GWs
>>44321564
Merry Christmas
I say this as a man who is drunker than he should be;
Merry Christmas, you glorious bastards.
Terribly shooped festive BMP-1
>>44366424
tis the season to be BMPing
>>44368208
tra-ra-la-ra-la, ra-la-ra-LAV
>>44357266
There's a GW tutorial on YouTube for the sponge method the other guy mentioned, if you search Duncan Rhodes should find it. Haven't tried it but it looks ridiculously easy and effective
christmas bmp
youtube.com/watch?v=aaJcSNBh-ok
>>44372043
This movie is so fucking good
Merry Christmas, /HWG/!
>>44373340
Wrong thread I assume?
>>44373411
Periodically reposted copypasta
Report, hide, ignore
>me and my m8 agree to start bolt action instead of playing warhammer
>both huge historyfags
>other friend wants to join us and buys a Soviet starter army
>doesn't care about history and wants to paint his army red coz red goes faster
oh god what do i do
>>44374016
Tell him you can reroll all your attack rolls because his men are bright red obvious targets
>>44374055
that movie.. i never got it
>>44374140
Not surprising anon, it's pretty fucking inaccessible to everyone. One the one hand it expects the viewer to be fluent in the language and culture of the WW2 British Army, and on the other it's staged in a really confrontational Brechtian style that's all very arty and avant-garde but renders the whole thing incomprehensible. I've watched it several times, I enjoy it despite its many faults. I love the subversive humour, but it's very much a Vietnam-era anti-war movie with all that entails.
>>44374161
I see. I watched it in german when i was a kid. That didn't help i suppose.
Whats the name again? "How i won the war"?
>>44374222
>"How i won the war"?
Correct
>>44299807
http://www.multimanpublishing.com/tabid/58/CategoryID/9/ProductID/78/Default.aspx
Here's Tide at Sunrise, a game localized by MMP. Played it 3 times, loved it.
Chaps, since you are more reliable than my Google skills most of the time, I'd like to ask for information on the M60 in Vietnam.
How were they employed? In the Ambush Valley supplement for FoF, it's rather vague, and I've found mentions of it employed as a separate weapons team (gunner+loader). How was it used in 'nam? As a SAW, or as a support weapon?
Thanks in advance for the help.
Painted a few russo japanese figures this week.
And rear.
>>44376747
>>44376771
I like them!
>>44375612
bump for question
hey guys, first of all merry christmas!
second of all, I've not come here for a long time, stopped playing historical wargames after the club I went to shut down.
I want to restart bolt action with some bersaglieri.
is the build an army set on warlord games website good? and are the models good too?
>>44378672
thats how the models look like
http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/italy/products/italian-bersaglieri-squad
There are minis with different heads (sunhats) available too, but the poses are the same.
The Armybuilder is great deal generally speaking, some armies benefit more than others though.
http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/italy/products/italian-build-an-army
>>44375612
>>44378586
This might help, it's the Osprey Weapon on the M60
http://www.mediafire.com/download/lobi4ke83467uzy/Osprey+-+OW+020+-+M60+Machine+Gun.pdf
>>44380302
'ppreciated, pardner. Hopefully I'll find the answers there, but after some more reading the M60 gunners were either kept in their own weapons squad, or used to fill up holes within squads along with their MGs.
>>44380380
No TO&E survives contact with infantry
Especially ones on a prolonged campaigns.
>>44380628
And especially in 'nam.
I'll probably start with a standard TO&E for the US army or something similar - HQ, 2-3 squads, each with 2 4-men fireteams, and a squad leader with an M79 armed grunt. Plus a fourth squad with the 3 M60s (prolly in 3 fireteams, each with 3 men). Not sure if it's correct, but it sounds it'll give me a nice platoon to play with.
>>44374241
Thanks, will check this out
>>44376747
>>44376771
nice job, these look great!
>>44378672
Army builder is good, but you get two (iirc) boxes of infantry in the deal, so of you get plastic minis that'd be 2x30 minis, metal 2x10, and bersaglieri are metal, so if that's the army you want it's the best you're gonna get but somebody using it for German grenadiers for example would get three times as many infantry.
Vehicles, command figs and weapons teams will not have this discrepancy, just rank and file infantry.
>>44386082
Nations with no plastics available get to choose 4 boxes of infantry though.
>>44385289
6mm is such a sexy scale.
>>44388110
yes it is
warlord have a 10% off sale along with free postage until new years eve. BADSANTA2015
What do you guys think about having a skirmish wargame having alternate-activation (similar to LOTR SBG for example, which means, everyone moves, then everyone shoots, then everyone fights, instead of I move, I shoot and I fight, and then you do), but with a twist.
Everyone does 1 action (shooting, moving, climbing, hiding, using abilities, rallying troops, etc), first starting with one player's units and then the other.
After that, everyone does 1 action once again, by the same order, and after that, both resolve their melee engagements.
The good thing about this is that you can shoot and at the same time charge, or shoot before you charge, whatever, and then move away. Or different combinations, but not necessarily "move then shoot".
Any game does that?
>>44390921
Action points based systems tend to be like that. Reaper's Warlord is like that. Separate figure activation, all of them have two actions which they can use however they want.
>>44392289
I meant something more akin to 'phases' but with different actions occurring in these phases.
instead of Player A moves, Player B moves, Player A shoots, player B shoots, etc.
It's, Player A does 1 action with each unit, Player B does 1 action with each unit, Player A does another action with each, Player B again, and then both fight in Melee combat
Well that was a productive boxing day. I gave up on proper clean up procedures about 3 hours in, after I ran out of glue... maybe by next Christmas they'll all be properly reassembled and painted. Maybe.
>>44393754
Is this for that Zvezda boxed gamer that comes with Command&Colours and their own ruleset?
>>44393754
Hey, you got this for Christmas too? Awesome.
>>44393769
Yeah, can confirm that.
>>44393754
>>44393796
How are the minis and the game?
I've been thinking about picking it up as a standalone thing.
It would scratch my Samurai itch.
>>44393817
It's in its box as I won't play/paint it for a good few months. The rules for both games can be downloaded from their website for free.
>>44393817
Miniatures are decent enough, being true 25mm (can't remember what scale that is offhand) the details are very fine. I've only got 3 broken yari out of the whole lot though.
I'm liking the command and colours system more than art of tactic.
>>44378672
Generally the build an army deal is pretty good. There is a 10% discount going on with the voucher: Bad Santa
Bersaglieri is a rare army.. which means higher production costs. If you want to snap up a great deal try fallschirmjagers or grenadiers which both got nice new plastic kits.
Since you are posting on HWG on 4Chan i would say fuck the deal and get that rare army and just generally be an awesome opponent.. because who wants to face another nazi twat?
>>44394423
>nazi twat
Don't go there my dearest anonymous friend.
Hey, the pastebin for the "List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises" doesn't seem to be working.
I'm specifically looking for pre-WW1 Imperial German wargames. Reading Tuchman's Guns of August (I know, I know, it contains many inaccuracies, exaggerations, and simplifications) and I can't help but want to reenact the thinking of von Kluck.
>>44398097
In the Victorian folder there is an excellent Franco-Prussian War wargame called They Died For Glory that you might like to check out.
Hey, so is the WRG rules not popular with /hwg/?
>>44387425
Didnt know that, was basing my statement on German deal where you get two boxes and if you choose a metal one you're SOL
>>44399705
Well we have their black powder-era rules, and their very interesting Warfleets of Antiquty book, but I honestly haven't heard of anyone playing WRG stuff for a very long time.
I have a copy of Warhammer: English Civil War.
Is it worth anything, even if just the passing interest of Anon?
>>44403037
So do we anon, but your generosity is definitely acknowledged anyway. Is it the same scan? Better looking, less-memory-hungry copies are always welcome.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ko9mqnn1s2x82na/WH+Historical+-+English+Civil+War.pdf
>>44389404
Also 10% off if you buy 3 vehicles. Does that mean if I buy 3 vehicles I get 20% off and free postage?
Camerone!
>>44403037
The old Warhammer Historicals games tend to sell for a fair bit on ebay because of their rarity, ECW is one of the less looked-for ones iirc but you should be able to at least make back it's original price.
>>44401617
isn't DBA to do with WRG?
Gotta say these Vietnam US soldiers are my favourite Esci figures.
>>44404955
Correct, the DB(x) games and Hordes of the Things were written by the WRG guys. I used to play a lot of DBM years ago, just using handmade bases on drawn-up maps. Haven't touched it in a long while, but surely someone on /hwg/ still plays it today.
>>44405072
That and the Vietcong box are an excellent set. The US forces are even molded in jungle green. Some of them are so characterful; also a few could double as merc-types for moderns games. I used some as a kid to make a Rambo: First Blood Pt 2 game! I particularly love the casualty figure, the beret-clad SF nco with the M16/M203, and the crouching bloop gunner.
>>44405163
crap, forgot pic
>>44405163
>>44405170
I have the Revell reissue in sand yellow as you can see on the base. I plan to do a headswap on the beret armed figures to a helmeted head, and use them as squad leaders with the underslung grenade launchers given to them to test them. Sadly there's a bit too much M60s in the box compared to M79s, so I need to get the Pegasus set too. The shotgun armed blokes are really good looking too.
>tfw run out of superglue and the shops are shut
>>44405841
you shouldn't sniff so much anon
is brain for your bad
>>44405841
Then paint your minis, anon.
trying to remind myself what I should be working on by posting images isn't working apparently.
