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This is a modern adventurer.
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What is he going to do with that big spoon
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>>44255371
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He's some kind of pizza knight, right?
Those are pizzas in his bag and he's holding a giant pizza cutter?
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>>44255479
Maybe it's a giant's pregnancy test
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>>44255479
>food knights
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lads these days don't understand
thumbs up if you remember rapiers!!
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Luso is an outlier in Ivalice fashion. He's that foreign guy who tries to hard to fit in.
His sword doesn't even exist in the game outside of a high tier summon
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>>44255371
Luso? Hardly. More like Fantasy's largest spoiled bully.
Honestly NO fucking idea how people can even possibly rage over Marche considering this douchebag came out in the next game.
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>>44255623
What? I admit it's been AGES since I've played A2, but I don't remember Luso being a bully.
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>>44255574
God fucking damnit... It has been well over a decade since I touched that game and I could still hear it all perfectly in my head as I read that.
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>>44255610
That always annoyed me, those big pizza-cutter swords looked so cool to me and they never got in the game as proper equipment. What the hell?
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>>44255610
Soldier a cute
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>>44255652
I play A2 all the time, it's actually one of my favorites. I have no idea what he's talking about. Hell, if anything he should have been a little less trusting with Adelle, she kept robbing him blind.

Fusilier is best class. Paladin/Hunter is second best.
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>>44258682
>not summoner/red mage/blood price, parivir/geomancy, juggler, assassin/summoner/blood price
Come on, man. Dual-casting blood price summoner is easily the best unit in the game.
Unless you're talking about flavor and/or fun to play. Fusilier is definitely fun and has great flavor, but I never played a paladin/hunter. I had a ninja/seer/dual wield that I really enjoyed, though. Even if he was useless against enemies with reflex.
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>>44259128
I did like the fluff somewhat, and the ability to strike people from across the map was extremely appealing to me. Especially if I used Charmshot. Paladin/Hunter was a fun combo because if you used Dual Wield while using the strongest swords in the game and used the Hunter's "Sonic Boom" you get an AoE elementless damage based off your attack. It can kill most things pretty quickly.

Red Mage in general is my favorite class. There's always more fun combos, or more optimized ones, but I don't have the patience to stat grind more than a little bit.
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>>44255383
Thats a pizza cutter, fool
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>>44259436
I respect and appreciate your opinions, anon
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>>44255371
>>44255479
You know, I was working on a pizza themed setting a while back, but I never thought to give the Pizza Paladins giant pizza cutter weapons.
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>>44259706
How fucking high can you be?
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>>44262147
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>>44259706
> Pizza Paladins

Going to need an explanation on this one.
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>>44256018
They are all androgynous so you can believe they are which ever gender you choose.
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>>44263902

Samurai I could believe as pulling both gender when I think of it, but Soldier just doesn't do it for me.
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>>44263902
You mean I can finally get my qt white mage waifu?
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>>44259128
>Dual-casting blood price summoner is easily the best unit in the game.
>not high magic summoner duel-wielding dark rods
>not charging for free MP
>not nuking the field, then melee striking everything twice from anywhere while ignoring reaction abilities
>not backing this up with a juggler/time mage to take four turns in a row
How does it feel to be so wrong?
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>>44263902
>can't equip ribbons
I'm sorry anon.
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>>44264050
Haha, forgot about that. so is the FFTA universe's hume males solely bishonen?
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>>44255574
kek
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>>44264050
>male
>can't equip ribbons
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>>44255574
'Glad you could make it, uther'

- that is no more familiar than the two where at the bgeinning
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>>44255371
I do NOT dress like that
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Is there a point to using throw, aside from removing unneeded extra weapons from your inventory?
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>>44255371
>tfw you play the shit out of the game he's in, and never actually find or get a chance to wield the Pizza Cutter Sword.
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>>44255371
The funny part is everyone else in that game dresses pretty much reasonably.
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Would you guys play a setting/system like this, where multiclassing isn't just encouraged, but expected?
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Pizza cutter swords are used exclusively by the Judges.that's why you never get one.
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>>44262147
>>44262243
I don't smoke, actually. Being abysmally bored does the trick just fine.

>>44262639
To summarize a bunch of wild and stupid ideas, its classic sword & sorcery fantasy, but with pizza. All of the major gods were parodies of pizza companies, and you had to pray to the pizza gods for them to deliver.

It didn't go anywhere, for reasons you can guess.
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>>44266363
Ranged attack when it's desperately needed perhaps. Just throw something you can get again that's high attack.
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>>44255383
It's the Moonlight Greatspoon.
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>>44266363
If you throw a weapon with a secondary effect, like rebuffs or HP drain, the effect will carry over.
It's like artifact cards in MtG; you can inflict any status effect at range, it's just more expensive.

This then becomes pretty much redundant as soon as you learn basically any ninja skills, unless you really need to inflict a particular status on an enemy that absorbs the real skill's element.
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Does anyone else wish the jobs weren't race locked?
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>>44255479
He's a Bradbarian.
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>>44266475
It's not nice to lie, Anon.
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>>44271433
I won't post the class art, but you get the ida.
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>>44268834
Sometimes yes. But, ironically, giving all the different jobs to every race would make the game too big. Maybe in a later game (assuming we ever get one) they'll introduce "breeding" system that inherits a few random jobs from its parents.
>>44267352
Ninja skills aren't that good though. little damage, debuffs that other classes in the same race do better, and
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>>44255371
Even /v/ is tired of this thread.
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>>44271433
>Riding Boots
>Chaps
>Sleeveless Jerkin
>Long Tunic Gloves
>Archery Wristguard
>Ribbon to tie back and confine hair
>Singular weighted tassle
>Utility Belt with choice items such as coinpurse and rope

Are you kidding me? That's the most reasonably dressed adventurer I've seen in quite a while.
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>>44255623
>>44264202
>this is what succeeded the original FFT
Absolute garbage
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>>44255479
>Those are pizzas in his bag and he's holding a giant pizza cutter?
Can't unsee
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>>44255371
He looks slightly more sensible in his FF Tactics PSP appearance.
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>>44255371
Looks more post modern to me
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>>44271474
I think you're missing the difference between ornate clothing, which this is, and unreasonable clothing, which OP is.
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>>44273721
Oh don't you act like Marche didn't have his fair share of bullshit.

He's a Pizza Paladin too you know.
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>>44275839
a-anon... FFTA wasn't the first...
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>>44255371
Bonus stupidity: That giant pizza cutter sword doesn't actually appear anywhere in the game.
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>>44275839
You have much to learn, Anon.
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>>44255610
The FFTA2 human units are the cutest girls in the game. Even though they're all male.
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>>44255371
>This is a modern /tg/ weeb shitposting thread that has nothing to do with traditional games

Fixed that for you.
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>>44255371
And people talk shit about the Buster Sword
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>>44255479
he's even got pizza tray elbows
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>>44255371

>greatsword +1, +5 vs italians
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>>44255371

>Only now are you realizing that the pizza swords never actually existed in the games
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>>44259706
fuck man, i'm trying to cut here, i'm in a 1k kcal diet when I was used to a 3k kcal diet a mere week ago and you're here talking about pizza
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>>44275897
Glad I'm not the only one who enjoyed FFT, and then found FFTA... Unfulfilling.
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>>44255610
But he got his gear through magic?
*poof* -> funky clothes.
Not trying to fit in, just fate deciding on his bad-ass clothes.
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>>44273721
I started out with advance and a2 and looked back if I should try the original. What I saw were only humans and a bland job-tree. Didn't bother.
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>>44280567
I started with the original, and then tried advance. What I saw was furry shit, childish non-plots, and an arbitrary system designed to house uninired characters.

Short version, Advance was to FFT what Mystic Quest was to FF6.
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>>44280626
>furry shit
Because every race that draws elements from animals is sexual.
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>>44280501
gafgarion u fucking son of a bitch stop running away like a fucking cunt and use your motherfucking skills that heal you while attacking me you fucking traitor or i'll be forced to go full knight and rend the shit out of your fucking shitty sword
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>>44280639
I didn't say fur-fag.
Just furry. Arbitrary addition of animal features. Whoop de do. Look, a human with rabbit ears.
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>>44255371
And this is a modern superhero.
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>>44280730
hot
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>>44255623
Well, he was a child travelling with an ex-criminal and a con-artist, and worked as sword-for-hire accepting any job he could find at the tavern.
Do you think he should have been a regular goody-two-shoes character?
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>>44280736
Too bad he's not interested
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>>44280567
You missed out on a pretty good story, anon.

There's a reason that FFTA's story was hated by a lot of folks. They expected something more along the vein of Final Fantasy Tactics, like a proper sequel, rather than Dream Book Funtimes.
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>>44280995

They should have consider that it was being made to a hand held console.

How likely would you have put it that it would have been as 'serious' as original?
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>>44280995
I guess it's the kind of thing that only gets ruined when you have expectations. FFTA for me was about the gameplay, the job system, the satisfaction of putting your clan together. The story was fun, it fit the tone of the game.
I actually also like OPs pick and the weird clothes because they fit the idea of an otherworldly fantasy society and the gear you had on meant something. Different strange weapons and armor give you different abilities, so it makes sense that adventurers have an extravagant fashion sense.

my conclusion: FFTA is great within the boundaries of the game, but people will raise an eyebrow when compared to other games and settings.
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>>44281089
Part of it, I think, is that Ivalice was already established as having medieval fashions that made some sense. The character designs might not've been 'fun', but they were fairly classical and they fit with the story.

It was basically an intrigue set in medieval times with monsters and magic. When FFTA came out, I think a lot of people expected more of the same, which is why the designs threw them off so much. And because of its title, and the impact of the original game, people can't help but compare it.

Calling it just plain Final Fantasy Advanced or Final Fantasy Adventures might've been a better shot for that.

>>44281081
I'm afraid I don't understand this question.
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>>44281081
Tactics Ogre - The Knight of Lodis was also on a handheld (In fact, it was on the exact same handheld using the exact same engine, all the way down to animations and art style) and it had a serious story.
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>>44280730

I wasn't expecting much from that show, yet I was left disappointed.
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>>44275839
Marche did nothing wrong.


>>44276039

Questionably related, tho.
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>>44280768
Aw come one, he's French.
He's playing hard to get.
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>>44281339
Are those canon?
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>>44281339
Pic.

>>44281372
Yeah, yeah he is.
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Would you date a Gria knowing they have a love of combat and hunting?
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>>44281532

What, you mean in bed too?
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>>44281551
Careful they like to Sneak Attack unguarded rears.
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>>44281578
My character would nope out of that as fast as he could. He won't ever admit it and says that he doesn't like people who are that forceful.

He'd rather have a normal, tender relationship with a loving girlfriend.
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>>44281532
Yeah I would! Maybe she'd whip me into shape.
Viera superior though
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This is actually almost a trope I've forced into so many games my players tell me they're sick of it.
(I tell them to GM something then. That shuts them up.)

I often have "adventurer" of some sort if a proper kind of role or job in society; and naturally, I have either in the present or recent past, cultural factors turn it into the fantasy version of sports heroes times rock stars. So there's a boom of faddish trend followers; hipsters across the continent talk about how they've always done some of their own local dungeon grinding, won't you try some locally fashioned artisinal magic rings? And bored rich kids dress up by combining literally every weird quirky and impractical clothing choice from overblown fictional portrayals of this weird multi-cultural occupation.
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>>44281339
how will we make these classes distinctly female!

I know, I'll just draw them all like the bought there clothes at saucy halloween sales and victoria secret

Brilliant!
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>>44281658
Viera are just lankettes with bunny ears
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>>44281789
That's not in the game.
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Tactics Ogre really styles on FFT in terms of art.
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>>44282147
My actual concrete ranking would be something like FFT > March of the Black Queen > Tactics Ogre: LUCT > every FFTA game

FFT is one of my favourite games of all time. Squad-based tactics games are my jam anyway, but it manages an ambiguous morality in many of its characters that few games to. Vagrant Story is similar, and another game I enjoy.
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>>44282200
...though, by many of its characters I do pretty much mean Delita. I like that Ramza gets his heroic finish but its actual impact on world history is not really significant.
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>>44276039
Archer a best.
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>>44264222
Ribbon-Bearer is an ability you can get from some late-game item. I gave it my bangaa master-monks and Defenders so they can be pretty (and avoid all those status effects in Brigthmoon Tor)

I thought of it as the equivalent of having a bunch of hardened badass lizard-men wearing neckties into battle.
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>>44281496
No. Even the sluttiest female model, the dancer, isn't quite that slutty.
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>>44255390
>Posting a reddit meme pic

Just fuck off
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>>44282623
>board culture
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>>44282640
>People can post reddit memes freely on /tg/ but when you post a pepe everyone loses their shit

(CAN'T WAKE UP)
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>>44281996
why not both?
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>>44282662
This isn't /b/
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>>44280710
>he's hating on Vierras
I'm sorry you hate Final Fantasy, anon. What's next, hating Moogles?
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>>44283362
Gria are better than Viera, but there is nothing wrong with Viera, that person is wrong.
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>>44282200
I enjoy Marche's motivation in FFTA because it has so much shitstorm potential. It's fantastic. I always make Marche into a Paladin at some point in the game, because it's just so thematically appropriate.
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>>44284869
"Fuck what all of you want, fuck my little brother being able to walk and not dying of Unspecified Disease, we're going home because I say so!"
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>>44285067
Marche was right.
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>>44285245
Marche was the villain.
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>>44285386

Marche did nothing wrong.
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>>44285394
Marche did everything wrong.
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>>44285419

Marche had everyone's best interests at heart.
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>>44285439
Like Marche's. And...Marche's.
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>>44285461
And everyone who wasn't the three specific kids that were having a good time. And the three specific kids who were so into escapism that they were willing to rot in a gilded cage of a world rather than face their problems.
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>>44285067
>>44285245
>>44285386
>>44285394
>>44285419
>>44285439
>>44285461
>>44285503
See what I'm talking about? This shit. This is why I love Marche.
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>>44285503
Does it count as escapism when you're literally living in another world where your problems are treated like virtues?
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>>44281996
Why are there so many more Viera than Gria?
>Because Viera breed like rabbits.
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>>44285965
It does when you've dragged (at least) an entire town's worth of other people in with you and given them shitty, painful roles in the other world.
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>>44287139
Did someone actually suffer or win nothing from being in Ivalice? Apart from Marche, I don't quite remember
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>>44288269
The bullies from school got turned into zombies.
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>>44287139
Sucks to be them. By going back you're condemning everyone who inhabited the new world to ego death, functionally equivalent to mass murder.

"It's escapism!" isn't a valid argument when advancement in the so-called "fake" world still requires effort, skill, and regularly being stabbed, beaten, electrocuted, set on fire, mind controlled, turned to stone, or otherwise subjected to considerable pain and suffering.
Escapism is a means of ditching problems instead of working to overcome them. No amount of work will ever get you out of a wheelchair. No amount of effort will bring your mother back to life. Refusing to go back when you've been freed from problems like that isn't escapism, it's basic rationality.
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>>44288636
When you wake up from a dream, are you condemning everyone in your dream to ego death?
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>>44288941
whoa, deep
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>>44288941

I hope so. Fuck those guys. They stole my jackets.
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>>44281233
Mother
Fucking
KoL
That game was my shit dude.
I remember one run I turned all my non-unique Lawful characters into Angel Knights.
Just Because.
So many Altars burned.
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>>44281532
>>44281578
I wish the Gria had more content. Kinda sad the most we got out of them as far as lore and major roles go only came from Tactics A2.
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>>44289420
And yet they were still the best in that one entry.
Fuck yeah, Sneak Attack
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>>44288941
Yes, but since they're all aspects of one being they are equivalent to a single death.
Additionally, their birth necessitated the ego death of an individual (you) to start with.

The upshot of it all is that;
1) if deaths matter, than reverting the world is immoral because it involves mass murder, which remains repugnant even if an equal number of lives are saved in the process (equivalent to murdering an organ donor).
2) if deaths do not matter, than reverting the world is immoral because it violates the agency of others, while also being illogical because it diminishes the quality of life of each remaining party without providing equivalent benifit.

Marshe was a villain.
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>>44289547
You're assuming that the people of the new world are completely autonomous from the people of the old world (In which case, you are advocating to maintain a state of mass ego murder as they completely lose their old selves)
Quality of life was not improved across the board and was objectively diminished in at least 5 cases. Forcing every other person to be an NPC in your fantasy is far more repugnant than just not living in a fantasy world.
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>>44289623
>In which case, you are advocating to maintain a state of mass ego murder as they completely lose their old selves
Murder is not a state, it is an act of instantaneous duration. When the world was changed, the previous inhabitants died and were replaced. This is not an ongoing tragedy to be reversed, but a past event now completed.
By reverting reality, you have enacted the same tragedy a second time, precisely as monstrous as the first, if not more so now that it is premeditated.

>Forcing every other person to be an NPC in your fantasy is far more repugnant than just not living in a fantasy world.
No-one is being forced to be an NPC because no-one, save the main characters, continued to exist. Those five bullies did not experience a decline in quality of life from being transformed into zombies because they were not transformed; they were replaced. Those five children died, then an independent entity and unrelated entity took their place.

Marshe, Donned, Rin, Mewt, and Mewt's father were the only entities to persist between worlds, therefore they are the only ones who experienced any change whatsoever. Of the five, two experienced strictly and significantly superior circumstances which were impossible in reality, one experienced improved circumstances potentially obtainable in reality, one experienced no objectively significant change in circumstances, and one experienced an extreme objective improvement in circumstances coupled with the subjectively negative trait of memory, but not ego or personality, loss (this being a subjective drawback because some would consider memories of past misery and failure to be themselves a negative, and their loss thus a positive change. Examples: heavy drinking following tragedy, long-term abuse of painkillers or depressants).

Ultimately, if you consider the deaths of reality's inhabitants to be unjust, you must therefore also acknowledge the deaths of the dream's inhabitants as equally unjust.
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>>44290688
>the previous inhabitants died and were replaced
No, they were changed, not replaced.
By reverting reality, you bring them back to their true selves. By leaving things in Ivalice, you leave them as completely altered beings, mind-controlled by the world itself.
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>>44290848
>No, they were changed, not replaced
Death of the ego is death of the self. If I were to lobotomize you and install an AI chip in your skull, you would be dead, not changed. The body is only a container for the mind.

The method doesn't matter: whether because magic changed your body into the home of a bangaa's soul, or because a bear's teeth changed your body into material which witch to birth its offspring, you have still died. What once was you is not so any longer.
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>>44291037
Except that reverting them objectively works. Everything goes back to normal afterwards. The changes don't completely replace them, it just adds the shackles of a fake world on top and suppresses their memories.
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>>44290848
>>44291037
The other inhabitants weren't actually the townsfolk. Some were based on them, yes, but they WEREN'T them - it was only the main characters who were actually there.
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>>44291079
>Except that reverting them objectively works. Everything goes back to normal afterwards.
Immaterial. A change need not be irreversible to be complete.
If anything this only makes the act more abominable. While the townsfolk of St. Ivalice could be recovered thusly at any time, those who had lived in the dream are destroyed utterly.

>The changes don't completely replace them, it just adds the shackles of a fake world on top and suppresses their memories
That's precisely what complete replacement is. If the change alters the mind, thought, and memory, it is functionally identical to killing the predecessor and creating a new entity from whole cloth. One's personality is the whole of their Person, hence the name.
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>>44291280
Those who had lived in the dream were parasites. And the personality remained the same (With the possible exception of those who became monsters), but memories were replaced with false ones.
There was only one true entity in that world, and that was the thing pretending to be that kid's dead mom. Leaving the book does not mean killing anything. It means leaving behind false imprints and a single solitary parasite that functioned like a non-sexual succubus.
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>>44289420
Sadly they will never be revisited most likely given Matsuno's departure, Ivalice is dead but lives on in our hearts.
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Am I the only one who like Nu Mou?
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>>44291625
I love them, but I can only imagine them talking really slow and saying "dude" after each sentence
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>>44291362
>Those who had lived in the dream were parasites.
Demonstrably inaccurate. They subsumed their predecessors, they did not leech on them continually to sustain themselves. It is no different from killing and eating an animal for food.

>And the personality remained the same
Conjecture. The sole entity shown to retain their personality was Mewt's father, who as previously stated transitioned between the two worlds functionally unchanged, having only a portion of his memory lost and the remainder recontextualized to mesh with the new world. You have absolutely no grounds to say that the personalities of anyone whatsoever were maintained during the transition beyond the aforementioned five.

>It means leaving behind false imprints and a single solitary parasite that functioned like a non-sexual succubus.
Entirely subjective. If a "false imprint" thinks, feels, and fears death as anyone else does, in what way is it false?
The Le Grimme was not left behind in any sense, since it, as a force, existed in reality from the start.
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>>44291362
>>44291362
In the context of the story, those parasites were still people, with all of the mental capacities and emotional potential of actual humans; neither were they responsible for or even cognizant of the reality they supplanted. We could all theoretically be simulations in a machine, but that doesn't make us "false imprints" to be freely discarded.
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>>44291686
If they exist within Le Grimme, then they continue to exist there.
If they were like Mewt's father, then they continue to exist in the real world minus some fake memories and plus their real ones.
I don't see your point whatsoever.
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>>44291625
Oh, Nu Mou are cool, it's just that gria and bangaa are cooler
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>>44255371

That giant, transparent, pizza-cutter sword would have come in handy back when I was fighting those giant, transparent, pizza elementals.
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>>44291625
They were meh. Sage and Alchemist were mediocre jobs that didn't offer much over their other, equally magic-focused jobs, and always resulted in redundant overlap with their subjob. Arcanist is a gimmick which became marginally useful only if you equipped your entire party with the same resist/absorb gear. Humes made better Illusionists, Moogles were better Time Mages, Beastmaster just sucks, and I choose to pretend Morpher doesn't exist.
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>>44291725
Gria are just monster-girls. Nu Mou are short walking dogs bearing a penchant for magic and academia, with their role evolving in FF12 to be strange and rare sages entwined with prophecy and ceremony; bangaa, while simply generic lizardmen, at least look suitably menacing.
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>>44291625
It's a shame the poor things got hit by every branch on the ugly tree in the transition from handheld to ps2
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>>44291719
>If they were like Mewt's father, then they continue to exist in the real world minus some fake memories and plus their real ones.
You keep acting as though the person in reality and their replacement in the dream are one being. They are completely separate people, because what defines a Person is their personality and memory. If both are changed, the Person has died.
The transition between worlds changed both the personality and memories of all parties save the five mentioned above, thus all the inhabitants of the new world were living entities unto themselves.
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>>44291719
>If they were like Mewt's father, then they continue to exist in the real world minus some fake memories and plus their real ones.
But they didn't exist like Mewt's father. Only Mewt's father existed like that. Everybody else got wiped.
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>>44291990
Except that, in every provable case, only memories changed. In certain specific cases, not even that happened.
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>>44291625
You know, I never noticed all those bells hanging from their earholes before.
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>>44292031
Give some examples that weren't specifically made into drooling zombies out of spite. And then explain how being turned into a drooling zombie and never turned back is beneficial.
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>>44292070
Bells? What bell-
>Sees the bells.
>Can't unsee.

Why...? What?
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>>44292048
But that's completely unfounded. You have absolutely no baking for claiming that personalities were retained because the only people who we see demonstrate their personality in both reality and the dream are the main characters, who are expressly exempt by having read the book, and Mewt's father, who retained his personality only because Mewt's wish included seeing his father happy and successful.

There are absolutely no characters shown to retain their personality without the intervention of one of the four who read the book. The setting doesn't even support it as conjecture, unless you're implying that the town of St.Ivalise had an incredible abundance of aloof girls and thuggish boys to transform into viera and bangaa.

>>44292075
>Give some examples that weren't specifically made into drooling zombies out of spite
Few to none of the characters depicted in the dream possessed personality traits appropriate to an entity which originated in reality. Therefore, the logical assumption is that their personalities were not carried over.

>And then explain how being turned into a drooling zombie and never turned back is beneficial.
It is neither beneficial nor harmful, because the entity which existed previously is dead. Those zombie were not the schoolyard bullies, they were just zombies. The bullies ceased to exist along with everyone else in reality. Nothing benefits nor harms someone who doesn't exist.
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>>44292417
Your conjecture is entirely unfounded.
Mine has examples.
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>>44292476
Actually it's precisely the opposite. You have no valid examples. The only characters which could serve as examples are expressly made unsuitable by their relation to the plot of the game.
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>>44292417
But you still can't prove that the kids leaving the book actually erases what's in it.
If the people there are merely based on the originals, then they shouldn't be affected by a handful of individuals leaving the world.
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>>44292549
You don't even have invalid examples. You have literally nothing but conjecture and the words of a... Thing pretending to be a dead woman, which is a known liar.
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Marche is how you do a Lawful Evil PC right.
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>>44264202
I need to go to FFTA. It is heaven.
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>>44275839
Still annoyed you never get to give Marche a Judge Sword, even post game
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>>44292596
>tfw montblanc was conspiring to destroy his own world during the whole game.

based nihilistic furry thing
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>>44292733
As were the rank and file.
Generic FFT* characters are some of the most loyal motherfuckers in any game. If they aren't forsaking their chances to become knights and running off with one of the most wanted men in the country to commit massive blasphemy and fight literal demons, they're following their leader into the potential abyss of obliteration.
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All this talking as made me want to play FFTA again.
Sadly my cartridge died on me a while ago, so I'll have to settle for A2.
>so begins the tale of Bunnyslut Clemens, and his quest to assemble an all-viera battleharem
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>>44292834
I kind of got the vibe that the clan leaders just didn't tell them anything.
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>>44292834
So Marche is clearly one of the most charismatic beings in the world right? People are willing to follow his orders and fight to destroy their own reality or venture into the badlands, the few areas where people actually die just because he tells them to.
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>>44292895
Well, his thing was that he had No Friends, so yeah him being the most charismatic fucker in the world makes sense.
Shame he used it to obliterate the world.
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>>44292869
I dunno, a lot of those important conversations were made in the same room as the rest of the clan. I'm almost positive that I remember one discussion about their plans where a generic was actually part of the conversation when it started and didn't walk away at any point during it.
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>>44292568
The mother-creature explicitly stated that someone like Mewt is needed to sustain the dream; his desires give manifestation to the world contained within the book and render it the new reality. Without an escapist like Mewt, the world described in the magical book is simply that; a world described a magical book.

>>44292590
The characters in the story that have no direct real-world analogue refute the essential connection you state to exist between the peoples of the world of Ivalice and the peoples of the town of St. Ivalice. Montblanc, Ritz's viera friend, Mewt's nu mou servant, etc. all have no conception whatsoever of St. Ivalice/the real world or any memories from a possible past incarnation. They all voice concern about their fates should the world re-shift, and since their personalities and memories are destroyed completely even if they have a real-human counterpart to turn back into (which they might not, by any measure, as the population of a town is not adequate to supplant an entire world's worth of people and creatures), it's entirely justified. If my appearance turns into some monster or inhuman person, my memories are completely wiped, and I'm divorced entirely from my life prior to the moment of the wiping, then I am not at all the person I was -- that person is dead, for all intents and purposes, as the things that essentially defined me as the person I was have disappeared. The only exceptions to the omnicide of the Ivalician shift were those that retained their memories, those that Mewt knew and saved.
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>>44293092
>a world described a magical book.
a world described in a magical book*
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>>44255610

I can't remember if they removed it in FFTA2 but in FFTA bishops had the Judge spell which had that sword appear and strike a target, which did nothing but steal JP...
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>>44292565
This image name but unironically. Marche did not nothing wrong and only NEETs would disagree,
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>>44295130
Them and cripples, and anyone else that exists to get shit on in the real world.
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