New OOTS is up, faster than the previous one.
So THAT'S what the teleport orb was for...
>>44246014
Really? the council made up entirely of divine casters are going to allow a magical loophole like that?
>>44246045
They did say "pass through these arches".
Technically, you aren't when you're teleporting.
>>44246014
>I brought snacks now
Don't clerics have the ability to magic up food?
>>44246099
they also have the ability to jump through planes and explode vampires
>>44246014
Of course, the fact that he said it out loud now means it's not going to work out as planned.
>>44246014
So, does it mean that all good clerics of the gods that don't want to end the world can go to the dwarven elders and dominate them themselves?
WOOOOOOW.
>>44246130
He's going to bring death and destruction to the dwarven lands. Sounds like this is his shot.
>>44246142
I don't know if you get this, but Hel is the only one who is actively trying to subvert everything. The rest of the gods, even the evil ones, abide by the Godsmoot's laws.
>>44246014
>inb4 Ritch forgets that this would invalidate Durkon/Hel's vote because this is influencing another voter
>>44246170
They need more CG gods, then.
This kind of bullshit is exactly why CG exists.
>>44246170
But it means that their representatives can do just that, right? Either Durkon and Hel are cheating and should be disqualified, or dominating people into voting is legit, and all the representatives can do that. Which is it?
>>44246205
Do clerics even have access to dominate?
>>44246224
no they do not. but Elan does
>>44246152
>>44246183
>>44246205
>mfw he hasn't forgotten
>mfw HEL is the one who's forgotten that
>mfw she gets her vote disqualified for pulling that shit but gets the elders dominated in return
Death and Destruction to the Dwarven Lands, chaps.
>>44246224
Dominate Person is Bard 4, Sorceror/Wizard 5.
So, no.
>>44246242
nope. because if she gets DQ'ed there's no need for the tiebreaker.
>>44246274
This presumes that they'll find out before she pulls it. I can see them going and pulling the dominate, getting back there and finding their actions have disqualified them.
>>44246224
Vampires do though
I'm surprised the hall isn't warded against teleportation just to prevent any kind of screwing around with the vote.
>>44246345
Didn't they build the whole thing in a day or something like that?
I imagine the hall probably just contains enough to be comfortable, since they no one really expects a vote on 'Should we destroy the fucking world?' to take long enough to permit that kind of fuckery.Thog edit when?
>>44246345
I'm hoping he tries to teleport out, only for wards to stop him, while the priest of Odin calls him an idiot for thinking that would work when they have fucking Loki around who would spot that kind of loophole a mile away.
I swear to God this is the lamest most drawn out OOTS plot so far. The final fight with nylon is going yo take ten panels over one year of all time to cover, whereas the first battle took, what, four?
>>44246066
Can't divine casters of that level teleport?
>haha I will teleport out thus not technically violating the rules
This isn't clever. This makes me angry. This actively requires everyone, from gods on down to mortals, to actively be stupid. It's a stupid idea. This is a stupid comic
We had 3-4 really great strips with a really great fight and now this fucking horseshit where the story will drag out even longer for these dwarf leaders and Rich's whole fuckingnidea is stupid and I am curious
JUST FUCKING KILL DURKON OFF YOU FUCKING HAND CRIPPLE CUNT I AM GETTING LEGIT SALTY ABOUT THIS POINTLESS STALLING BULLSHIT THIS SERVES NO PURPOSE BUT TO STALL FROM THR ACTUAL PLOT
>>44246489
No, that's a strictly arcade spell. They can Windwalk, and vampires can do that mistform thing, but both of those would require "passing through the arches".
>>44246506
This is why literally no other medium conveys its story one page at a time and makes the reader wait before they get to read the next one.
The standard webcomic format is terrible.
https://youtu.be/l1YmS_VDvMY
this bloody storyline
>>44246515
Vaarsuvius is still aboard the airship... But he doesn't have teleport. Shit.
>>44246515
>arcade casters
New derogatory term for wizards.
>>44246536
THE STANDARD WEBCOMIX COMES 3 TIMES A WEEK NOT ONCE EVERY THREE MY SALT AAAGGH
>>44246515
any with travel, portal, or city domain can do it, they could double plane shift, and if you're a high level caster without Word Of Recall set up, you're a complete idiot
>>44246506
This is the plot, dude. The whole point of the moot is that by the time they get to the final area, Xykon set up shop and the heroes need to dislodge him.
This arc is a huge stall because a huge stall is what needed to happen.
>>44246224
A better question is, don't Dwarves have fucking racial bonuses to all saves?
>>44246547
Not to mention there's no way for them to contact him, since Roy is also not allowed to leave and I assume any spells to communicate with people outside are forbidden as well.
At this point we're just waiting to see what Belkar will end up doing.
>>44246581
yep. and the chiefs should be mid level at worst, so they'd have a reasonable chance of making their saves if the plot didn't demand they fail with no repercussions for Durkula
I don't like this arc.
I want to see Xykon do awesome shit, not silly vampire dwarves.
>>44246623
To be fair, vampires get Dominate at-will. Those Dwarves are gonna fail their save EVENTUALLY.
>>44246581
Dwarves have a +2 racial bonus to saves against spells and spell-like abilities which is awesome.
Unfortunately, the vampire's domination ability is a supernatural ability.
On the other hand, as elder, most of those dwarven leaders ought to have at least a passable wisdom score.
>>44246579
If you legit need to stall your plot for yournplot to work then your plot is shit and you are a shit writer
>Durkon tries to teleport out
>fails because there are wards around this place like any other important building in a fantasy setting
>Thor grins, because now he can hit Hel with his hammer
>>44246581
>>44246658
Oh please. No one will make their will saves, because Rich is a goddamn fucking hack who doesn't think of simple shit, just wanks his words words words out onto the page with no thought for pacing and flow. God fucking damnit it was going so well until the fight stopped now its gone to infuriating shit and I am salty
>>44246205
>>44246274
>>44246242
The elders aren't attendees of the godsmoot, they're just some guys the tie-breaking god consults before making a decision.
>>44246234
Yeah but Elan is probably balls-deep in Haley at the moment.
>>44246243
>>44246325
So the vampires can dominate, but the other clerics can't.
>>44246961
you say that like he can't multitask. He's a bard
...
>>44247007
>you say that like he can't multitask.
I'm not sure Elan can even singletask
I am not Thog. Here is less text.
>>44247081
Fuck.
>>44247081
wow, that is less text
>>44247081
>>44247099
>>44246656
...Are they just sitting idly and letting him dominate them? Shouldn't they be blasting him with Divine magic, cleaving him with +4 Treebane Axes and telling him stories that will make an undead vampire fall asleep?
>>44247095
Damn, that actually works pretty well. Like usually these shortened edits also remove the flavor in their shaving, but this sounds natural, still.
>Let no attendee shall pass through this hall's arches!
>>44246014
Turns out Dorkon can't teleport out, so he sends his minion and we're stuck with page upon page of this nobody vampire succeeding ridiculously against the leaders of all dwarves, and just before the whole plan succeeds Belkar comes in from above, kills himself in the air, and falls on Durkon, taking him out as well and invalidating Hel's vote.
>>44246014
Wow Richie, TWICE in one week!? Did your xmas viagra come early or something?
Interesting though that the merchant guy casts misgivings about the Dwarven Generals 2016. Nothing like a jew to spot opportunism I guess. Or maybe he just has some business to attend to in two days time.
Wouldn't informing them of the world being undone and asking for their permission ruin Hel's plans tho?
>>44246554
On the downside, since richie now has to draw four to twelve guys who will only appear for three pages tops we can expect next comic sometime around February.
>>44247052
I think he almost half-tasked once.
>>44246014
...wait, how is Belkar going to enter the building again?
And who is he the bodyguard of the representative of?
I tried.
>mfw not enough letters to fit in a 'dominate' joke
>>44246426
Thog not entirely happy, but Thog done.
>>44247534
He's bodyguarding Durkon. Each rep gets 2.
>>44246723
For awhile it seemed like a legitimate reason to stall the Gate plot, and in a lot of ways this is the story arc that he originally wanted to write.
We might also be a bit hasty in damning this castrated Cleric UN because we don't know how they'll react to a fucking Vampire going to fuck with their super important voting system that determines the fate of the whole world.
I know they said they have to stay and wait but maybe every-fucking-god-in-the-setting might be able to do something when informed of the treachery.
I can't really defend this stall beyond that.
If they just say to let it happen and its okay then everyone is fucking retarded and its amazing this world lasted this long at all.
It's already a little retarded that Hel would automatically get all those Dwarven souls in the first place, dying to a disease and dying fighting are things that could easily overlap. Like you can die fighting Cancer, you can die fighting the destruction of a planet.
If not, then how the fuck does Thor get any souls at all without starting a war every now and then?
How does a mostly isolated people living in the distant mountains get killed often enough in combat that Hel is already not the most powerful God ever?
Why are they even holding this vote? Why don't they just tell Hel to go fuck herself and just smite Xykon now?
Go shape stone around the open tears and cast some permanent force-walls, go make some new gates on the broken tears.
>mfw Belkar claims he's helping Durkon, stabs Roy and allows the clerics to pitch in on his side
>>44247578
>For awhile it seemed like a legitimate reason to stall the Gate plot
Pretty sure they won't be getting to the gate in this book though.
There's a pattern.
First, third and fifth books are about the gates.
Second and fourth books aren't about the gates.
And this will be the sixth book.
>>44247561
Is this the Jerk City edit?
Wait a minute, is the ex exarch of earth or whatever even allowed in the Godsmoot? Guess it's a moot point since he brought the orb already, but shouldn;t everybody have dusted his ass the second he got into the chamber, for "security" reasons?
>>44247688
He was in Durkon's protective bubble.
>>44247712
His safe space is safe from even the rules!?
>>44247712
That's not a protective bubble. It's just a ward that prevents the living from entering.
Although, that brings to my attention the fact that I've pretty much never played clerics and don't know jack about their offensive capabilities. Do they have ranged attack spells?
>>44247791
a fuckton. but none of them will use any on Durkon because trying to dominate dwarven elders won't count as interference
>>44246014
>two days
That's some fast bureaucracy.
>>44247688
Technically, he was the guy in charge of security. He doesn't have a VOICE, but he's allowed to be there.
>>44247551
>4,21 MB
Ya blew it already.
>>44247791
They have ranged attack spells.
They have cure wound spells that would damage a Vampire directly.
They have spells to summon, possibly undead, things that could cross the barrier or have natural ranged attacks
They could dispel the barrier, blast them with sunlight, blast them with fire
They could send and anchor them in the Plane of Positive Energy
Any of them could potentially Resurrect Durkon or douse the area in an anti-magic field.
>>44247915
Yeah, he should have saved it as a .webm
>>44247915
In my defense, I have my image editor set by default to save .pngs with no compression, because making Thog edits is not my primary use for it.
>>44246506
This is how I feel about stupid loop-holes in general.
One of the bigger offenders was buffy, for example.
No, Wedon, it's not clever to have someone invincible to the weapons of man suddenly blown up by an RPG, you flaming faggot.
>>44248151
Wait, could you elaborate on that, for those who have not seen buffy?
>>44248236
Ancient Demon impervious to any weapon.
The prophecy was like 500 years old and weapons sucked then so they just blow up him up with an RPG.
>>44248236
A demon was said to be "impervious to any weapon forged by man". Buffy realized that the prophecy was written in like 1200 something.
So, she shoots him with a rocket launcher. Demon explodes.
>>44248236
As >>44248303 and >>44248327 wrote, the demon was impervious to weapons forged by man.
The RPG was considered to be manufactured or something like that, which doesn't count as forged by man, thus it could kill the demon.
>>44248303
>>44248327
So... According to my ability to do math, Buffy is set in the 18th century?
>>44248327
grenades are machine-made, not forged by man. It's the same situation as Macbeth's "no man of woman born" or the Witch-King's "no man shall harm me"
>>44248236
There's a monster in the second series who's said by medieval tomes from the last time he was chopped into peices and stored away (wihtout killing him) to be "immune to human weapons" and it took some magical bullshit to split him up.
Then on the day he's going to perform his first big massacre at a mall, Buffy whips out a rocket launcher that her support group had stolen from a military base and blows him up in a single shot.there's a second instance of this happening in the next season, when a monster who is functionally and practically immortal before he morphs into a giant wyrm at the end of season - said giant wyrms are supposedly unkillable by anything short of a volcanic eruption. So Buffy got the wyrm into a school that she'd FILLED with military grade high explosives, tricked it into winding its entire body through all the main hallways, then blew up the school, which killed it
Does Vampire Durkon have a dwarfish accent? What does Durkon sound like without a dwarfish accent?
>>44248507
British.
>>44248507
Becoming a vampire automatically shift your accent to Eastern European, no matter where you're from or what kind of vampire bit you.
>>44248581
Even a Chinese vampire?
>>44248618
How do you know it's chinese if it's pale and talking in a heavy eastern euro accent?
>>44248639
I'm pretty sure Jiang Xi don't actually speak. But if they did, they would sound Romanian. Fact un-life.
>>44246758
>hundreds of paladins
>not a single one made a DC15 will save to avoid effects of the insanity ball.
>>44248428
One webcomic had a huge monster that ate dragons and could only be killed, according to the old legends at least, only by reflecting the light from full moon into its eyes from a silver mirror on [some day that only comes once per century.]
They killed it with rockets and then talked about how the old myths really need to be updated.
>>44248736
Huh? The symbol of insanity would have a minimum DC of 22 for being an 8th-level spell, and Xykon definitely has more Charisma than 18. Plus having it bounce around for several hundred times in the room and thus forcing the save several hundred times (which is dubious to work, but Burlew wanted to try such rules abuse into the comic for the sake of joking too) ought to be able to overcome all those low-level paladin's Will saves.
>>44248736
>8th level spell
>cast by an epic-level lich
>Will DC of 15
>>44248151
Every rule has a loophole. Deal with it.
>>44247503
Yeah, and now Haley's pregnant.
>>44249338
Even the rule that says that every rule has a loophole?
>>44247578
>then everyone is fucking retarded and its amazing this world lasted this long at all.
Y'know, that might actually be the point Rich is trying to make. These gods suck. They've been shown to be stupid pricks in the past. Maybe the Dark One resetting things isn't such a horrible idea.
Placing money on belkar turning into a vampire and killing vamp durkon by getting through shield.
>>44249766
Wouldn't he just get a Hel spirit stuck in him, though?
>>44249834
Durkon is beholden to Hel because he's a dead dwarf, not just because he's a vampire.
>>44249766
How will he rise faster than 3 days, though? Unless he gave the staff to another one of his vampires?
>>44249766
Will be kinda hard, since if Belkar lets himself get killed to awaken as a vampire, he would be a thrall to the vampire that killed him. Also, he would first need to be buried to rise as a vampire. And lacking the sunlight protection spell, he would burn and then turn to ashes during the day.
>>44249854
Okay, fair enough. You're right, it isn't some kind of vampiric lineage thing, because Malak had a Nergal spirit.
So why are the non-dwarf vampires till obeying Durkon, like that goliath out front gearing up to fight Balkar? Is it just a vampire's spawn obeying it's master? What kind of spirit inhabits that goliath body? I suspect Belkar would still obey Durkon even if he doesn't get a Hel spirit.
>>44246274
You're forgetting that she'll still have dominated all the council, who pretty much run everything. She's still going to bring death and ruin to the dwarves, even if it isn't the way she wanted.
>>44249944
>Is it just a vampire's spawn obeying it's master?
Yes. They're thralls to that master vampire until he releases them.
>>44249992
Belkar also was looking for an item to help against domination.
>>44250089
Does a vampire's mastery over their thrall count as domination, though?
>>44249766
I think it's more likely we're not going to see him again until he knocks Durkula out of the antilife shell with the hurled head of the goliath. His prowess with throwing things was established during his fight with his previous nemesis, Miko, and his willingness to use severred body parts as tools was established with his 'nemeses' before that, Yuk Yuk and Yik Yik.
>>44250169
Don't vampires turn to dust when they're destroyed though?
>>44250107
>>44250089
Specifically, he got a clasp of Protection Against Evil. I don't know how well that would work against a thrall mastery, or if it would even work as a vampire. Maybe it'll keep the undead spirit from taking him over?
>>44250196
I thought only sunlight dusted them. I may be wrong, though.
>>44249616
ESPECIALLY that rule.
>>44248736
>>not a single one
A few did, they had to fight their former comrades
>>44248618
That's a different beast anon. But it does apply to New Zealander vampires.
>>44248009
>these dwarves tho
my sides
>>44247578
>How does a mostly isolated people living in the distant mountains get killed often enough in combat that Hel is already not the most powerful God ever?
Dwarves have high con, get an extra bonus against poison and maybe also disease on top, and are long lived. It's more likely for them to die violently than to die naturally, especially since while their mountain halls are generally distant from other civilized races, they are in a hotbed of activity for their racial enemies: goblinoids and giants.
>>44246477
>>44246506
>>44246536
>>44246542
>>44246554
Still not remotely as protracted and infuriating as the Castle arc of Girl Genius.
>>44251986
Not to mention that minor loophole where most dwarves that die of 'old age' are venerated in honour of their livers, bravely putting up a valiant defence against the inevitable.
>>44251986
Also Tree related accidents are counted as battle against trees.
>>44246506
>his isn't clever. This makes me angry. This actively requires everyone, from gods on down to mortals, to actively be stupid. It's a stupid idea. This is a stupid comic
>We had 3-4 really great strips with a really great fight and now this fucking horseshit where the story will drag out even longer for these dwarf leaders and Rich's whole fuckingnidea is stupid and I am curious
Rich's respone to this: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?472546-OOTS-1016-The-Discussion-Thread&p=20208612
"I'm sorry you don't care for it, but this isn't a "sidequest." This is the main plot."
and:
"Yeah, those almost sound like the sorts of thing that might be dealt with further in future comics. Weird.
>>44246066
>They did say "pass through these arches".
>Technically, you aren't when you're teleporting.
I thought he meant the loophole of "mind control"
>>44248736
>>not a single one made a DC15 will save to avoid effects of the insanity ball.
One did. she committed suicide immediately because of the horror of what happened
>>44247876
>>two days
>That's some fast bureaucracy.
teleport
>>44253252
>people seriously thought one of the western masters of laid-out plots would forget the basic rules he laid out less than 20 pages previously
He's displayed an unerring attention to detail throughout the whole run of the comic. The "wordswordswords" people complain about is directly linked to him wanting to put in as much detail as possible.
And people STILL thought he'd forget a detail that important?
>>44247876
The fate of the world is kinda in the balance here.
>>44246014
So what the council of clans is going to be taken over by a few vampires?
>>44247007
>you say that like he can't multitask. He's a bard
He doesn't have to multitask. He's a bard: being ballsdeep is a free action.
>>44248365
>The RPG was considered to be manufactured or something like that, which doesn't count as forged by man, thus it could kill the demon.
No, it was the demon was unable to be harmed by any weapons mankind were capable of making at the time they first made the prophecy.
Since that time, mankind invented much more powerful weapons, but the prophecy (and the demon) didn't take this into account.
>>44253543
But he's also multiclassed as a wizard, so getting his dick wet is full round action.
>>44253709
No he isn't, he's only multiclassed as a Dashing Swordsman
>>44253252
I wonder if the guys who browse the giantip forums are also in this thread.
HEY BOBBYBOBBY99, FUCKING KILL YOURSELF, HAVING A BROWN UNICORN PONY AS AN AVATAR AND WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT A PEACOCKS TAIL
>>44253709
Dashing Swordman, a prestige class with full BAB progression towards getting the pussy properly drenched.
Post ZA WARUDO edits.
>>44253792
>>44253778
No, remember he got a level of wizard too because he wanted to be more like V that one time.
>>44254037
I don't think he ever took that level in Wizard. I think he just said he was going to.
>>44254077
Now that's what I call Mount Celestia!
>>44246014
Isn't Xykon AT the last gate already?
I thought Roy was going to kill Durkula here and end this hanging plot thread, but it's really starting to look like this is gonna be a THING, and I'm really wondering how much Redcloak's dragging his feet if he doesn't finish the ritual by the time this plot arc is wrapped up if they take much longer.
It's like, they don't really have TIME to have another arc about fighting Hel's plan rather than resolving this HERE and now, but they're also boned if they fight Xykon without Durkon, so where's he going with this?
That's a pretty boring way to wrap it up. Also a boring way to show the halfling was alive
>>44248428
So your complaint is that the medieval slayers didn't try strapping him to a petard before using magic? Because from what I've seen of Buffy, magic is way less dangerous than medieval explosives
>>44255687
Xykon will have to deal with all kinds of high-level monsters, and then probably have to somehow overcome the last defenses at the gate itself, which the halfling chick will hopefully not have mentioned in her diary.
>>44256741
Yeah, I think the Buffy example wasn't really that bad. The demon was perceived to be invincible TO the people of THAT era. People from those times don't have the level of technological weaponry we have now, so I don't find it a stretch to think that 'invincible' from ye olde standard might just be a tad different, i.e. is not so much it's invincible, just that they don't have the level of weaponry needed for their time so it might as well be considered invincible for them.
>>44246014
I feel like in OotS' world the council of dwarven elders should #shrek two mid-level vampires.
>>44257209
Durkon is a high-level vampire, however, and those elders might only be a bunch of aristocrats with 1-3 npc levels.
Posting a thog from last comic that didn't make it to the main thread.
>>44246559
The Northern Pantheon would only have Travel available, unless Dvalin is also a patron of the City domain.
>>44247845
Whichever Lawful Good or Lawful Neutral cleric argues this point is an idiot.
>>44257572
>ric burlekek will be like "I'm not equipped with a pp"
> Then thog turn it to "d"
This is the most meta thog I've ever seeen.
>>44256741
For once, the villains will be doing the work for the heroes!
>>44256838
Isn't part of Xykon's thing that he's acquired so many epic levels he's retardedly overpowered compared to everyone else at this point? He'll blow through the monsters pretty fast.
>>44257572
>Oots is
>just dead >>>/his/
>>44258569
He's certainly epic level, and does have enough spells, but he doesn't really make efficient use of them, and some of the monsters could very well be resistant or even immune to most of his spells that likes to use, like meteor swarm, energy drain, and other stuff.
He will certainly power through in the end, but it might take a while, when he has to retreat, rest, and regain spells to overcome the next deadly trap and monster with whatever brute force method he normally employs.
>>44258637
Xykon is way smarter than people give him credit for. And you forget what his forte is : Necromancy. One dead monster = One juicy cadaver he can use to summon super ultra demi nightshades of fuckyou+5.
>>44258695
Not saying that he's dumb. But he's impatient enough, and as a sorcerer, he does tend to fall back on using damage-dealing spells often enough.
Also, does he really have any undead-creating spell except for animate dead, which can only create lame-ass skeletons and zombies? So far, the better kinds of undead had to be created by Redcloak and Tsukiko.
Also, my memory of dominate is kinda fuzzy, but can't you still not force someone to do something that is against their nature with it?
I'm pretty sure "vote to send myself, my family, and everyone I know to Hel forever" is not in the nature of the dwarf lords.
>>44253778
which not only makes intercourse an immediate action, he counts as one additional sexual partner per point of Charisma
>>44258785
> any subject forced to take actions against its nature receives a new saving throw with a +2 bonus. Obviously self-destructive orders are not carried out
I don't know if vampires work as per Dominate Person or not
>>44258752
Create Greater Undead is an 8th level spell, and it could be the one O-Chul couldn't identify back in pic related, but yeah I'm grasping at straws
>>44258854
Yeah, I feel like they need to ignore that "vote to kill yourselves and be sent to Hel" is as self-destructive as it gets because plot.
>>44253252
Richard response is smug and just makes me more angry. Don't infuriate your audience with your bullshit to prve how clever you are
>>44258854
>Dominate (Su)
A vampire can crush an opponent’s will just by looking onto his or her eyes. This is similar to a gaze attack, except that the vampire must use a standard action, and those merely looking at it are not affected. Anyone the vampire targets must succeed on a Will save or fall instantly under the vampire’s influence as though by a dominate person spell (caster level 12th). The ability has a range of 30 feet.
>>44253454
>western master
There's a line between supporting an author and sucking his dick. It's a pretty thick line, but you still managed to jump over it you lala prancing homo man
>>44255687
Hasn't it been stated that the gate ritual takes weeks? They're probably going to get there right before it finishes.
>>44259638
Hyperbole motherfucker, do you grasp it?
The point was of all the things Rich Burlew is known for, it's GOAT-tier villains and plots that are set in motion far in advance. To think that he'd forget the rules that he himself laid out 20~ strips earlier is absurd.
>>44246014
>>44247095
>>44247551
>>44247561
>>44248009
Thog fix
Does anyone have the Thog where Blackwing does the air raid impression?
>>44246170
>Guise we should respect the outcome even if there was blatant fraud involved
>It would only be the Lawful thing to do
No. Shut up.
>>44260043
>>Guise we should respect the outcome even if there was blatant fraud involved
>>It would only be the Lawful thing to do
I think he means that Hel is the only one who's trying to defraud the thing. The other gods never tried to abuse the loopholes because they understood the need for an even ground to discuss things less the Snarl gets out.
>>44259584
If you had to deal with your average OotS fan on a daily basis you'd hate them too.
>>44259584
>smug
That's barely contained anger, m8. He's tired of being lectured by his audience about his comic when they're blatantly fucking wrong. They've done this for years on pretty much every single comic. It gets old, and they never fucking learn.
It wouldn't be as bad if they weren't stupidly autistic about the whole thing.
>>44246559
Why not just thog it up and punch a hole through a wall? Then you're not 'thru the arches lol'.
>>44260259
If Roy gets to use his Knowledge (Architecture) skill again I'll die laughing
>>44258892
Did anything ever happen with those elves later?
>>44260293
THey died
>>44260293
They got killed by Redcloak when he raided their base after they found Xykon's phylactery
>>44260293
Well, they tossed a goblin prisoner off a roof.
And then this happened.
>>44260230
Everyone meets a few assholes
If everyone you meet is an asshole though, the asshole is probably you.
If everyone in his audience is blatantly fucking wrong
Maybe HE'S the fucking asshole?
>>44260359
Haha, I'd forgotten that effect for Implosion. Always fun to play with the medium
>>44260392
No, the forums are just a den of autists
>>44260359
Technically this happened first.
>>44260392
You are seriously underestimating the suckage of his fanbase.
>>44260392
You've never been to the GITP forums, have you. They are just that bad and worse. It's a mass of autistic rules lawyers who are convinced they're right and will argue until they are purple in the face with the *author* about that.
>>44260392
See, in situations where the proportion of assholes is normal, that's logical. But the GitP forums are a place where assholes congregate to be the biggest assholes possible.
>>44260392
>If everyone in his audience is blatantly fucking wrong
>Maybe HE'S the fucking asshole?
No, seriously. They're the people who will, when the author of the thing they're reading says "I planned it this way and set it up to happen this way, this is what happened", respond with "NO YOU'RE WRONG".
When I say "blatantly fucking wrong" I mean "arguing with Rich Burlew about what he had planned for the comic" wrong.
>>44258695
>>44258695
>>44258752
>>44258892
Well he has Redcloak with him so yeah.
>>44260650
He's also got O'chul and Lien up there who have had several weeks to prepare defenses against him. Now I'm not expecting two mid-high level Paladins to stop him, but they can probably slow him down. Especially since O'chul is aware of most of Xykon and Redcloaks capabilities.
>>44260689
Speaking of which, have we ever seen O'chul's mount?
>>44260689
Much as I like OotS's Shaft, I imagine the best he'd be able to do is survive, as opposed to slowing Team Evil down.
So, for those familiar with D&D lore, what's the most likely result of Nale's death? Will he turn up again as some kind of demon, or is he gone for good?
>>44260725
Almost certainly already had his soul chewed up and turned into a maggot demon.
>>44260725
I want to see him show up as a dretch
>>44260725
Right now he's likey a larvae
If he was more important he'd likely get promoted to something right quick
Right now Sabine is likely just trying to find his soul or somethin'
>>44260705
No, but it'd be funny if it was something other than a Warhorse. Like a Celestial Moose or something.
>>44260725
In most cases he'd appear in one of the Lower Planes as a Petitioner and have his soul tortured and broken down into its base energy that would be used to feed the creatures there. Since he was fairly high level the husk left behind could then become a low ranking fiend.
Sabine might have altered the process though, maybe by claiming his soul directly in which case his fate would belong solely to her as long as she could hold onto it.
>>44260725
Standard is for his soul becoming a petitioner which is then turned into a low rank fiend.
OotS seems to have something different with the afterlives, with people remaining themselves instead of turning into petitioners (since IIRC they do that in the good afterlives too, it's just they do it in Good Ways there), so there may be a LE afterlife for him - either ETERNAL TORMENT or The Best Thing Ever for LE.
ALso possible is Sabine pulling some strings with her bosses to keep him being him in some form (even if he ends up with a fiendish body or something)
>>44260782
>>44260795
>>44260797
Did he ever mention selling his soul to Sabine? It seems like something they might do.
>>44260797
Rich hinted that Nale wasn't actually Lawful though in some of his forum posts. So he's more than likely in either the NE or CE afterlife.
CE would make the most sense, since Sabine is a Demon and would hold the most sway there.
>>44260797
Actually, IIRC petitioners on most planes remain mostly themselves
It's just in the lower ones that you turn into a maggot with a face. Punishment and all that
Also at least in hell important/useful petitioners can be upgraded directly from petitioner to something more useful if they prove themself worthy
>>44260797
I could see Sabine doing that. The IFCC seems very keen on maintaining good employee benefits.
>>44247561
Not great, but I do like this gem:
>"tilt the dwarven ass"
>"Last time this happened, it took two days."
My very first Thog edit, hope you guys like it.
>>44257572
Fuck you, that middle panel made me spit some coffee.
Someone post this on 1d4.
>>44260230
It's almost a parody how terrible the official forums for that webcomic is.
>>44246467
Oh man, that could be great...
>>44260814
I don't think he sold his soul to HER, but he's linked to the IFCC.
>>44261113
It's ambitious, and it has a few good moments. Keep at it!
>>44260725
Pillar o' Skulls - Sabine might be able to Morte him out of there, but he'd lack any memories of his previous life or even a tongue so I don't see what'd be in it for her.
>>44255687
Except that "the gods can destroy the universe as a last ditch move to stop either the tear being released or The Dark One getting his hands on it" is a fairly large plot issue that needs to be resolved first - only once the Gods have decided to not blow up the world can the plot with Xykon and Red Cloak continue.
So, how will the inevitable Redcloak vs Xykon going to be? Redcloak tries to backstab only to have Xykon revealing that he knew what shit he was trying to pull all along or Xykon doesn't actually know the truth but wins out of sheer epic level magic?
>>44260448
Even after Rich explicitly said that he wasn't really adhering to the rules, as he had moved on from such baseless humor that was the foundation of the early years of the comic after a new edition was announced.
>>44266189
Redcloak uses his Command Undead class skill to make Xykon do his bidding, Xykon only says "....Yes, Master..." but he secretly resisted the command through some obscure trinket or spell or feat. Hilarity ensues.
>>44267012
Command Undead allows a will save. If you mean Rebuking/Commanding undead from being a cleric, Redcloak doesn't have twice as many levels as Xykon has hitpoints by a longshot
>>44246014
The god is dumb enough to vote that way because the people are dominated to ask him to?
>>44267182
He's the epitome of Lawful. He swore that he would consult the Council for everything, and that's what he'll do.
>>44267052
I thought it was you could command undead with up to twice your level in HitDice, but apparently
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Turn_or_Rebuke_Undead#Commanded
>At any one time, the cleric may command any number of undead whose total Hit Dice do not exceed his level.
I was wrong.
The lich template doesn't grant any additional HD while granting a +4 Level Adjustement from the wiki I just consulted, so if Redcloak is within 4 levels of Xykon's level he could command him, I think. If Xykon was built like a Player Character and Redcloak doesn't have any feats or items that empower his Rebuking/Commanding Undead class skills.
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At any rate, Xykon has a failsafe with the Monster in the Darkness
>>44267410
>and those that would be destroyed are commanded.
>If you have twice as many levels (or more) as the undead have Hit Dice, you destroy any that you would normally turn.
I feel like Redcloak's plan won't be so direct. He's probably banking on the fact that once the ritual is completed he's in a "do what you must, I have already won" situation.
>>44255687
WHY are you TALKING like THIS? Is this some sort of JOKE?
>>44267669
Oh I see, I was reading the limit of undeads he could command at any given time, not the level range he could actually affect. Thanks for clearing that up man.
>>44246045
They also said "sequestred here"
>>44248428
To be fair, there is an explanation for the second thing.
The bad guy in question was completly immortal before he transformed into a giant snake, but afterward, he was just incredibly tough.
>>44254037
Nope, just said he wanted to do it.
>>44257572
Perfect
>>44260259
>>44260283
Well, this structure WAS built in one day, and proved to easily crumble when Giant Durkon punched it...
>>44262021
>>44266293
Really, it's kind of impressive that 4chan's a better place to discuss the comic than the actual forums. Not because the official forums are sycophants, but because they're that damn caustic and retarded.
>>44268057
top kek
>>44267286
Dominated voters cannot legitimately represent their wishes. 'Lawful' does not have to have to have 'Stupid' appended to it.
>>44271598
Though assuming that the dwarven leaders ARE lawful stupid is exactly the kind of miscalculation that Hel would make
>>44271598
Anon, when faced with a vote over whether to destroy the world and condemn his entire race to Hel, the dude said he had to go get a council vote about it.
He IS Lawful Stupid.
>>44247762
Tumblr joke.
>>44271806
The question is whether he can tell where a council vote is freely given or being dominated into doing do
That will be the true definer of lawful stupid.
>vampire ports in
>instantly blasted by heal spells from every direction
whoops
