Which do you prefer, /tg/? The lizard-like Western dragon or the serpentine Eastern dragon? Or do both coexist in your setting?
Asian Dragon are Demigods or outright Gods. Western Dragons are just Apex Predators to be hunted.
Western
The less talking the better.
>>44212273
...fuck I hate this but it depends on setting.
Both good. I guess I prefer western dragons on the whole, because they work well as both villains and heroes. Eastern ones.. generally stuck as sages and protectors. Have to corrupt them to make them work well as evil.
I prefer western but purely for aesthetic reasons. Though I do think Eastern Dragons have better lore.
though at this point eastern and western dragons have pretty much fused together in most settings western and eastern.
>>44212273
As a Dragonologist, I've come to appreciate dragons in all their many forms and origins.
>>44212273
Western dragons in notEurope, eastern dragons in notAsia
>>44213692
*Points index finger downwards*
>>44212341
Eastern dragons are very chaotic neutral too, they'll burn your village down then flood away the ashes because someone shot a deer they have tea with.
I don't like dragons that are both stronger and smarter then me. I prefer western dragons that have animal levels of intelligence.
That's something Dragon Age got right, the dragons there were about as smart as dolphins.
>>44214158
>I don't like dragons that are both stronger and smarter then me.
Doesn't take much.
>>44214158
>>44214191
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
Wyverns > dragons
>>44212305
Christian lore pretty much made western dragons associated with demonkind which make them sort of parallel to Eastern ones
>>44212273
The chromatic ones are all western while the metallic one's are eastern in my setting, why limit to one when you can have both I say.
>>44212273
Both.
Different creatures, different roles, and depends on the setting.
I like the Eastern dracoforms as agents of the Celestial Order. They're remarkably polite and utterly unflappable bureaucrats who exist to do The Will of Heaven. They can bent a bit with _how_ the job must be done, but don't think they can be completely deflected.
Western dragons are events. They're disasters that specialize in eating cattle.
The Metallic ones are "good", but ultimately they prefer to be divorced from mortal concerns. It's just too much drama for them -this does tend to make them compatible with Elves and other very long-sighted peoples. They're the War Metaphor dragons: a force of total potency such that when they act everyone suffers. In this serve as a warning -do NOT get a hair up your ass to threaten what they protect if you don't have Divine Ranks.
The Chromatic are variations on the sins of sapience, and are pretty much what a dragon antagonist should be: destructive, wily, ruthless, and utterly the pinnacle of a non-planar threat. Challenging one should be an apex event, though having a few "smaller" chromatics skulking around isn't necessarily out of line.
Both types generate half-dragons. Reasons vary by individual.
Western all the way. Eastern dragons just look dumb to me.
>>44213692
I still have that book. Loved it as a kid.
![Rathian[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/cQpN39M.png "Rathian[1].png")
>>44212273
>Which do you prefer, /tg/?
>Or do both coexist in your setting?
This.
This perhaps maybe a little "too much" for some people's tastes, but I'm a big, big, fan of naturalizing monsters and so forth. The setting has: Dragons, Wyverns, Eastern Dragons, Wyrms, Drakes, etc.. the works, the full course Dragon package.
Generally speaking I like Dragons of all sorts of to be "clever and cunning", but ultimately still animal-levels of intelligence.. It makes the few exceptions all that more amazing. TRUE Dragons, TRUE, ANCIENT, MAGIC-LITERATE, DRAGONS, the likes of which marvel and inspire animist religions and cults around them.
I like both very much and don't think I have to choose between them when they can all fit within the fantasy setting.
>>44214419
Isn't Satan himself refereed as The Dragon in the Bible?
>>44214849
Mah nig.
Low-tier drakonic species are apex predators, mid-tier dragons are forces of nature, high-tier elder dragons are immortal, deific beings.
>>44215084
That's where the idea comes from.
>>44213692
I literally have my childhood copy on the shelf right next to me.
My buddy also had the wizard one and the Egyptian one. Shit was so fucking cash that I still use the Dragonology one for when I do dragon campaigns.
>>44215084
The literal Hebrew translation for "Satan" literally means adversary. Doesn't have to be the red guy with the pointy stick.
>>44214569
>mfw my friends used it to convince me dragons were real
>>44215084
Yes
>And behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth.
I like....cutedragons
I like it when both types of dragons exist in the same setting and are at war with one another because of the difference in their personalities.
this thread reminded me of an erp I encountered out of nowhere on steam
>>44216462
Everything has it's place, and that includes cute dragons. The one time I had an epic level caster, they had dragon familiar and were going to raise a bunch of dragons as their adoptive dad, for example.
>>44213692
Included here, a real patch of scales from a cockatrice!
![tumblr_nxcxcx5NfY1u9zhs6o1_1280[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/D8J7lkw.png "tumblr_nxcxcx5NfY1u9zhs6o1_1280[1].png")
I'm honestly a bigger fan of Western Dragons, but both have a place.
>>44212273
Probably Eastern.
I'm a big fan of subtlety and underplay when it comes to Fantasy elements. And a big evil flying fire lizard doesn't really help establish that. If players encounter a dragon, I'd rather it be either a long dead one or an ancient Yoda-tier spiritual guide they have to actively seek out. And even then, I feel the latter could be better represented by something far less dramatic, like a big talking tree or something.
>>44212273
Its a species thing, kinda like how the gold dragon is vaugley asian.
>>44212336
What about pillow talk, man?
>>44217290
>I'm a big fan of subtlety and underplay when it comes to Fantasy elements
I believe you and I have very different ideas of the point of playing fantasy anything then because I adore the concepts of knights clad in gilded apparel battling to the death with monstrous fire breathing titans while a beautiful woman cries out for a savior.
>>44212273
I'm actually writing a treatment for a sitcom set in a modern fantasy setting, and it has both.
They fucking hate each other. Throughout history, half the wars have involved a western dragon and an eastern one getting pissy with each other.Not that this treatment is ever going to get made, but whatever.
>>44217242
>Chivalrous Knight
>hiding sword behind back when the lady wants to give him a token of affection
WEEEEW LAD 0/10 HAND OVER YOUR SPURS
>>44212273
i do use both but western far more often
>>44218954
>chivalrous knight
>with that beat up cloak
>with that dead-eyed expression and terribly maintained hair
>not even wearing a helmet
Obviously he's a mercenary or hunter or something
Dragon has bad taste in guys
>>44218954
You try finding a proper back scratcher for a heavily armored sapient creature. Can't be done!
>>44214158
>>44214191
>>44214301
>>44218882
i would watch it
if it ever gets made i will remember you anon.
>>44213692
god that book was so good
i think i got all the -ology ones, but dragonology/the wizard one are my favorites
>>44215084
Satan was never a character, it's a title. It just means Objector or Opposition or most popularly yet erroneously The Adversary. It literally just refers to any person that questions god.
Haven't thought about it before but I'd probably make them exist in different regions. If the setting has a continent or country similar to Asia then I'll throw Eastern dragons there. Western ones are usually the norm though.
>>44219731
>any person that questions god
Except Moses. God was cool with Moses questioning Him, they were pretty tight.
I like western serpentine dragons that look like winged lizards. See jrrt's original smaug drawings for reference.
Not the western dragons that look like hounds, which d&d has popularized
>>44218954
>Chivalrous Knight
>Caring about honor.
Anon I don't think you understand chivalry.
How about neither?
>>44219731
Thats wrong.
Satan comes from the hebrew ha-Satan, a class of angel that acted as the prosecutor of your soul when it came time for judgement. These angels worked for god, and the one in Job was literally doing its job, like a prosecutor making a bet with a judge about some random bloke. Christianity fucked this up and made the class of angels into a single one and cast him in the role of opposing everyone.
I kinda like the idea of a villainous eastern dragon. Not outright so in the traditional sense, but more so in the way that only something extremely detached from mortals can be. Basically extreme, lawful/chaotic without any malice or goodwill.
>>44220575
South American dragons give me a boner
They all do
>>44212273
>western dragons are usually the heaviest types, being bred specifically for combat due to the only variety in europe being ideal for mounted areal combat, usually as a counter to naval forces. few western breeds have the fire breath, which is offset by thicker hides and larger flanks, giving the air force more places to harness troops and bombs.
>eastern dragons, while still having combat breeds, are usually characterized with larger wing spans and being thinner. here you see dragons used in conjunction with civil duties, a markedly different opinion than the west. in the east, dragons are usually treated as citizens. they work, they pay taxes, and succeed just as often as they fail. it helps that they are not the hulking behemoths that their western cousins.
My setting uses both, kinda, Dragons are a biological class like mammals or insects, Most are dolphin or ape level intellect, usually called drakes (includes wyverns, lindworms, Mana Drakes, ect).
Then are also the Dragonborne (Made of three distinct subspecies) whose intelligence ranges from human to just above, and form human-like cultures.
Finally there are True Dragons who are massively smart, powerful, magical demigod-like creatures of which there are a dwindling number. There are standard looking western dragons, eastern ones, things in-between, and other creatures like Leviathans, Feathered Serpents, Ect
>>44220518
Richard the Lionheart and Saladin had a contest on who could be more courteous to whom.
>>44222031
And that wasn't chivalry. That was just general courtesy between Kings because war was more of a game for them (nobody would normally dare commit regicide at the time, it really was more like a bloodsport).
Chivalry included shit like "if you kill an enemy knight, it's completely A-OK to rape his maiden". And its rules only applied to the nobility, peasants got shit.
>>44212273
I don't really see eastern dragons as being dragons at all. They don't really have anything much in common, and in many ways are opposite. Dragons are reptiles, Long are feathered snakes, Dragons embody vice while Long embody wisdom and virtue, Dragons are slain by heroic knights while Long advise sorcerers and mystics, etc etc.
>>44219527
Have some spoilersThe main character's dragon coworker is not just any hybrid. Her parents are actually the clan leaders of either faction. Which will cause problems.
In my D&D campain only versions of the Western exist
But i woud love to play a campain with these dragons: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Periodic_Table_of_Dragons
>>44213692
>you will never be a real dragonologist
Why even live?
>>44214158
Even western dragons aren't stupid, hell even Slavic Dragons are seen as smart.
a Gnome Fammiliar
>>44212273
Serpents.
Always serpents.
>>44223102
Big serpents?
>>44220518
His understanding is about as thorough as yours.
>>44212273
Well for one the western ones were also serpentine before Christian scjolars started adding to the mix.
Prime example is how the Sarmatian tribes under the Roman empire used a serpentine formed dragon banner that made noise on the battlefield and scared the shit out of picts and germans.
Also the origin of the word dragon in most european languages is tied to the word for serpent.
Most notably so in slavic languages.
This is where we find the reason why dragons were associated with Satan by the christians.
First of they were giant serpentine cretures while satan was pictured as a serpent.
Second, they adapted the indo-european thunder and wind deities as saint Illiah (which is just another expy of the jewish god) and those had an enemity with dragons who had the domain of water, earth and the underworld.
Third, the common folk in most slavic lands actually worshiped dragons with dragons giving away magic to those they deem worthy after a trial (basically dragon sorcs), and magic is a big no-no for christians.
Fourth which is the funniest of all is that Satan is wieved as a trialmaster in slavic lands and if you pass his judgement by generally being a good person you get awarded you guessed it with magic or blessings with barely any drawbacks.
>>44212273
I like both.
>>44218882
I will wait for it.
Please succeed.
>>44220575
Fuck yeah Rayquaza
>>44222671
>>44212273
Snake-like, not eastern. They are called Worms and Snakes and Serpents for a reason.
>>44216244
>literal Hebrew translation for "Satan" literally means
>>44212273
But that dragon is not lizard-like, it's mammal-like.
>>44224800
>rayquaza
McFucking kill yourself.
It's Quetzalcoatl not some mongolian's faux-animal fingerpainting playing vellum.
>>44215974
Damn, I'm not as special as I thought I was
>>44214419
Dragons were demons, Satan is actually described as a three headed dragon.
>>44218882
DO IT!
>>44219731
>>44219972
Not exactly. Abraham, Jacob and Jonah all questioned God. Jacob actually fought god literally, and his name was changed to mean "He who struggles with God" which in Hebrew is "Israel" so in Jewish tradition, questioning God is considered normal, as long as you don't question his power or dominance. Then you get fucked.
>>44222671
>>44225456
Damn strait.
>>44216244
but literally means figuratively now.
>>44216335
Man, do you remember that time Risen Jesus descended from Heaven to cast the Dragon of Apocalypse in the Lake of Fire of Hell?
Shit was so cash.
>>44227064
>mfw
Srsly why do that bro
Not cool
>>44215974
>>44214569
>>44213692
I have the book as well.
Did you ever get any of the CYOA books from the series? I got, and I think still have, one about playing a researcher on a search for an ice dragon.
>>44226144
>>44224819
It's very likely that point will never even come up in the show.
I basically only have it in the outline to give me a possibility to expand from a sitcom that's centered around an office, to a more traditional kind of fantasy story.
Well, traditional in that there's a war. It would still be set in modern times, obviously.
>>44224789
>>44226070
Pitching a treatment for a show that's entirely original (IE, not IP) with no prior body of work is basically never going to work. Especially since it would be animated but aimed at adults.
So I'm going to finish draft 2 of the pilot, then work on other stuff that's easier to get into production, I think.
Damn Mods went crazy on this thread.
>>44227783
They did? Damn, now I need to check the thread in the archive.
Peaceful/less physically ruling, intelligent dragons are usually the Eastern river based dragons.
The more agressive ones are usually the western brute style.
I always had it that was as a sort of natural selection thing: Dragons that fight more have more at their disposal. Dragons more about magic and knowledge are generally more agile and lethe.
>>44227861
I am now glad I checked the archive.
>>44228132
Guy wrote a story for another thread at the same time, that thread got deleted but check his pastebin for it
>>44223116
For you.
>>44227415
Like Bojack Horseman?
>>44228310
I haven't watched Bojack horseman. But, from what I've seen of it, sort of.
I'd like to have slightly higher-quality animation, though. Of course, that costs additional money.
>>44213692
that's one unexpected nostalgia I have now, thanks
are there pdfs around?
>>44212273
both
I like my dragons and most other reptilian monsters to be part of the same monophiletic group
>>44212305
>you're supposed to hunt down apex predators
This is why the druids and Elves hate you, cityfolk.
>>44212273
In my setting there are Western and Eastern people, so I'm probably going to give them their respective dragons.
I also like the idea of dragons shapeshifting to human form. It fits in with the sort of myths people used to believe in, and it puts dragons into the people's conscience as something other than what amounts to intelligent fighter-bombers. In common parlance referring to someone as a "dragon" means they are intelligent, charismatic, and succesful, but also an unpredictable threat. You'd call someone like Julius Caesar a dragon.
It also explains why there are so many half-dragons in a way that isn't "lol a wizard did it".
>>44212336
>Brass
>less talking
lolwut
>>44216244
I thought "Satan" translated to "The Accuser" and in hebrew lore, that was what he was: he was the prosecutor in the court of God.
>The 3 days Jesus spent "in hell" was actually a 3 day, Phoenix Wright style Court Room battle against Miles Satanworth
It makes me want to see the incredible cases that will be made during revelations.
>>44230531
If God was the Phoenix Wright Judge, that might explain a few things.
>>44230597
This needs to be a thing.
Actually, a Phoenix Wright RPG or some form of card-based, Clue-like game sounds beast as hell and something everybody could enjoy...
>>44225930
>taking the bait
>>44226729
I literally shat my pants laughing last night
>>44231424
>post something believably stupid
>"that's stupid"
>lel it were bait
>>44231501
Yes that is exactly the concept of baiting you dingus.
>>44220584
Then what was the serpent?
>>44221525
This is a pretty based series.
>>44214419
Yeah, but they were more like vermin. They posed a threat if left unchecked, but they usually weren't all-powerful.
>>44231424
No, K actually thought it was a shitty rayquaza
Holy shit it was better than that
>>44212273
Honestly I've never liked eastern dragons
>>44228377
Funnily enough, I'm planning to do an advanced diploma of animation next year.
I'll have to keep an ear out for your project.
>>44238890
Cool!
I'll probably find some way to post the script on /tg/ when I'm done with the latest draft. It's not really related to traditional games, I guess, but /tg/ is also kind of the general fantasy board. So I can just find a relevant thread and dump it.
Eh. That might be stretching it a tad.
Wondered how long it would take the mods to get to that picture
>>44239573
What picture?
>>44214191
Wow, that's fucked up.
>>44214191
>>44233944
a serpent. Its how the hebrews explained serpents slithering everywhere and why they should be hated.
The more you look into hebrew myths and see how the Christians fucked it up and rewrote them, it should be obvious how fake the religion is.
>>44240078
>The more you look into the differences between ancient Hebrew mythology and modern Christian doctrine, it should be obvious that religions change over 3000+ years and dozens of different cultures, languages and reformations
I bet you're one of those people who thinks that pre-Christian Hebrews called themselves 'Jews'
>>44239703
Check the archive
>>44213692
Also did this in my setting.
>>44212273
both, bruh
kinda like >>44213692
>>44240725
You wonderful man, you.
>>44227195
Yeah, I got the Ice Dragon CYOA as well.
Loved the shit out of it when I finally got it.
>>44215974
I have almost all of the -ology books, save a couple more recent ones that I couldn't get for reasons.
I love all of them to this very day.
>>44216294
This was pretty much my demeanor when I found out it wasn't a legit transcription.but screw it, I went through the fuckin' training course and everything.
>>44240725
Does anyone know if anything tabletop has been produced for Dragonology?
Western dragons withfour limbs. Eastern dragons are of course more apt in asian settings.
>>44222875
Who says you can't?
Behold, the key to your salvation.
I mostly like western dragons, and with four limbs + wings. With the exception of some looking a bit fat, i really like how the dragons from World of Warcraft looks, despite the little sense it makes. As for intelligence, i like it both ways; in my own setting they run the gamut from the little-more-than-beast Kingbane to the scheming Gold Dragon. Also, while i don't dislike it when there's a bunch of them - ai there being hundreds or thousands of red dragons - i do have a slight preference towards when there's only a single one of each type, or in single digits. Helps make them more unique.
You people and your insistence on choosing...
>>44214158
Dolphins are smarter than people
>>44244073
Dolphins have lower INT scores than humans. This can be assumed to be related to the fact that they lack:
>Understanding of all but the most basic mathematics
>Procedures resembling research
>Knowledge of the particulars of any environment besides the photic and mesopelagic zones of the ocean
Now, as they as a species have existed for far longer than us, they can be assumed to have a higher collective WIS score.
tl;dr, Dolphins are Druids, not Wizards.
>>44244104
Not possible, their alignment would not allow rape caves. They must be clerics.
>>44222588
>Dragons are reptiles
Actually, western dragons are almost always described as snakes in mythology and folklore. The depiction of them as dinosaurs or, in some cases, almost feline in body are a very recent invention.
>>44245346
>>44222588
but...snakes are reptiles...
>>44245753
That's racist
Next you'll kall humans monkeys
Did your mother mess up just your raising or is there a whole clutch of idjits like you flying aroudn?
>>44213692
i loved that book until my middle school friend started trying to tell me that he saw a dragon in his backyard.
>>44212273
Eastern dragons look like a cat fucked a snake. Western ones are far superior.
>>44212305
Kinda-sorta.
The Asian definition of "God" is significantly different from our own, especially in China.
>>44246520
Actually, cats and snakes were made by separating dragons into their component parts.
>>44246776
Dragons are just big cats after all
>>44212273
I prefer serpentine Western dragons like ye olde wyrms.
>>44221745
Great idea, will steal
>>44243239
>Reign of Fire
Fuck yeah
Since a mod deleted a post and all quote-chained posts..
What kinds of dragons exist around the world other than the various western and oriental versions? I've never heard of an African dragon, or Australian. Are there any underused dragon analogues out there?
>>44249955
IIRC, there's a Cheyenne legend about Sea Serpents that help keep the waters teeming with fish in return for Tobacco.
>>44240078
Nigger, just detected that you don't know shit about what you're talking about. Wanna know how? The word used for serpent in genesis, and the word used for seraphim (angels that looked like flying burning snakes) have the same root word. The whole "hurr durr hebrews thought that snakes crawled bcuz genesis" theory has been debunked for quite a while, and we have all the OT scriptures dating back to pre chritian times (though few, if any, of them are the first of their kind), meaning that there is absolutly nothing to back up your claim that "le evil lying christians" changed OT. If any changes were made to OT then they were probably made before christianity, most likely during the babilonian exile, and through syncretism. This is because enima elish, which some controversial researchers claim influenced the 2nd edition of genesis, had sea serpents involved.
>>44212273
I love this picture so much
I like guys like this
>>44250637
You know, I only just now realized the eastern dragon is rolling his eyes
>>44249599
Movies about angsty militarymen fighting monsters will never not be enjoyable.
The actual dragons in the movie were immaculate in design.
>>44250666
So eastern dragons masquerading as western dragons masquerading as angels of the apocalypse?
Fine choice Satan.
>>44250666
>Grigori
You're a man of excellent taste anon.
>>44249955
>What kinds of dragons exist around the world other than the various western and oriental versions? I've never heard of an African dragon, or Australian. Are there any underused dragon analogues out there?
I think there's one african legend about how the snake and elephant used to be one animal but it was so terrifyingly destructive god split it into two
>>44213692
I have searched high and low for an acceptable pdf of this book and the rest of the Dragonology books and I still cannot find one.
>>44218882
WAIT A MINUTE
THIS POST IS A LOT LIKE THIS OTHER POST FROM AGES AGO
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/42816348/#42864103
>>44212273
MUCH prefer Western dragons. Ideally, they don't speak but are nonetheless extremely cunning and dangerous. Highly destructive, inhuman forces of nature, they can't be reasoned with or intimidated.
>>44254751
Just means he's been working on it for a while
>>44212273
Western, eastern have never seemed that impressive to me
>>44256489
Why do people keep saying that western dragons don't speak? Several of the legends that feature them have them doing just that.
>>44254751
>FROM AGES AGO
>It's from two and a half months ago.
>>44250630
Holy crap dude. If you read any actual scholarly reading on the serpent in Eden, pretty much all of them reference it as just an animal. Its punishment is literally to slither in the dust of the earth for its involvement in original sin.
The word used to describe the serpent is nahash. This literally means serpent, and is the word used to describe regular, non poisonous serpents. Saraf/saraph means fiery serpent and is a description of poisonous snakes, as hebrew used fiery to describe the effects of the poison on the skin and how it felt like burning. The seraphim are latter creations that are angels but the main takeaway from their name is that they are fiery, not that they are serpents.
The new testament writers interpreted the words describing normal snakes as angels and monsters and interpolated a great enemy into the texts where the was none before. Basically Christians created an entirely new idea of what the words meant, using drug or mental illness induced visions written down in Revelations to craft a new mythology where the creation of serpents is mixed with misunderstanding of what the title of Satan is to create a big bad for their cult.
>>44260646
He's new, that's a long time for him
Dragons in my setting used to be intelligent, until an ancient being stole their intelligence and put it in the bodies of an up-and-coming species of ape. The dragons are understandably quite angry about this, but are don't really know what they're angry about. They also unfortunately find themselves in conflict with a much smaller, but much smarter adversary.
>>44249955
Americas have their own dragon actually but its a bit different. They are more compared to a feathered serpent or scaly bird in appearance. Very rare but very powerful.
Australia and the southeastern islands dragon are closer to serpentine or lizard like appearance but have a bit more leaning to typical Asian Dragon just a bit different. Australian dragons are fucking crazy though goddamn.
Africa...I think they DID have dragons but its all weird.
>>44261319
Does it? The nearest Australian equivalent I can think of would be the Bunyip.
>>44261375
Would you count the rainbow serpent? It's basically god.
>>44261386
Well I guess it all really depends on how you define "dragon".
>>44261454
not that anon, but here, take a look, most of us really likes things like this
sorry, can't upload here, error
http://imgur.com/UANxSoI
I prefer another lizard
>>44261751
Tianlong, red, wealth, majesty.
Able to predict the future, and naturally regarded with respect and awe by both humans and dragons alike -- the weak-willed even being inclined to obey. Use that combination of abilities to become obscenely wealthy. Use my heat immunity to gather precious metals from the Earth's core, and to travel extremely quickly and stealthily by swimming through lava tubes and into and out of volcanoes. I'd travel quickly and be barely detectable -- I probably wouldn't even run into other red dragons that often, considering how big the Earth's core is -- and I'd use all of my abilities to become a baller the likes of which would make Bruce Wayne look like an impoverished Dalit by comparison.
>>44228132
How do I check the archives?
>>44261879
My genitalia has requested me to as you for a source on that
>>44262400
Guardbro (tumblr is grouchybadger). Hes currently working on a harpy in a sun dress
>>44262379
I searched 'foolz /tg/' and clicked on the first link, put in 'which do you prefer' into the search bar then scrolled down until I found OP's post.
>>44214158
>That's something Dragon Age got right, the dragons there were about as smart as dolphins.
actually dragons are much smarter than humans in DA. The things you are fighting with animal intelligence are demons who are possessing the corpse of a dragon. And then you have the case where witches transform into dragon form with magic and you can say "I want to be a dragon!"
>>44218642
>battling to the death with monstrous fire breathing titans while a beautiful woman cries out for a savior.
Not wanting to marry a dragon?
You got shit taste anon
>>44212273
Eastern dragons don't appeal to me in any way and they never have.
>>44246050
Humans are not monkeys. Humans are great apes.
Additionally, his comment is much more similar to calling humans "primates". Which we are. And so are monkeys.
>>44222318
>>44263644
Nice
>>44263575
Obviously the dragon has been kidnapped by fire giants.
>>44263644
This is so stupid...He read "the code of chilvary"?
He means to tell me there is one official book that knights read to know how to behave, instead of like...Hundreds of years of changing oral tradition, local customs and thousands of variations?
>>44263692
I think it just means he did some research on chivalry, not that he "read the book of chivalry".
Also, it's a goddamn joke, lighten up.
>>44263575
Calling that abomination a dragon is practically a crime.
>>44263692
Also, there kind've is actually a generally accepted classic medieval chivalry code of knights from the medieval period.
It's an actual code. It's a thing.
You should try doing research before you dismiss stuff out-of-hand.
>>44263692
It's almost like he's joking or something.
>>44263909
Autist don't understand jokes anon
>>44245346
Was the depiction religiously based?
>>44212336
>only talking about western and asian dragons
You narrow minded fool, what about Sirrush, Coatls. Hell before Wizards made her a five headed Dragon, Tiamat was originally a Mesopotamian god and mother of all monsters.
>>44263692
>He read "the code of chilvary"?
No, he "looked up the code of chivalry". Next time read what's actually being said before betting mad, bro.
>>44266319
Tiamat a shit, Marduk is superior in every way
>>44266352
I can't argue with that, he did rip out her spine to make the mountains and then use her blood to make the oceans.
>>44266319
>TFW no sexy pregnant Tiamat art
>>44266352
Non-dragon<dragon
>>44260903
>Revelations
it's just "Revelation"
>>44244073
OH yeah? If they're so smart how come they keep ending up in tuna cans?
>>44268786
they are horribly depressedinto cylinders
>>44263621
Don't great apes come from monkeys?
>>44269956
No, they come from apes
The kind that is deadDon't you dare post a skeletal/zombie dragon you fucking fuck
>>44226729
Literally have two meanings.
>>44260646
>>44254751
>>44256882
Yep, working on it for a while.
>>44271651
FTP
>>44272131
Any details you'd want to share?
>>44273575
Uhh... What kind of details? I have a fair amount of episodes already planned out, as well as character bios, so I could share those if you want.
As for the actual script, well, I haven't done much work on the re-write of the pilot, since school and another project has been eating up a lot of my time. My original script wasn't very good for a few reasonscliched opening, plot that is non-representative of the show as a whole, bad character introductions, but you can read it here if you want:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/268098851/Untitled-Fantasy-Sitcom-Take-4
The new pilot is going to have an entirely different plot, the details of which I don't quite have down. I've also made several tweaks to the universe and characters' jobs.
>>44271651
>Wanting to kill dragons
>Before I can
Fuck you Undead
>>44275142
Whoops, wrong link.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/264771880/Fantasy-Sitcom-Take-3
That was a revision where I was going to keep the opening and most of the first act, then change the rest. This is a more complete version.
>>44275362
Cool, thanks.
Gusta, would watch
>>44275362
Decent, probably would never make it on the air because of how different the setting is, why don't more networks try odd things
>>44223116
Welp, this picture settles it.
I'm going to have dragons be horse-sized fire breathing creatures of a few types, with people constantly whispering about an evil 'true' scaled one deep within the dungeons.
Then it turns out it is a giant primordial serpent, instead of dragons it is the thing that manipulates and controls the world, has magic and minions, etc.
I think I like giant malevolent snakes.
>>44271651
what about Scaleless kinds?
>>44216794
>>44216720
>>44216462
Raxtus is the best cute dragon.
>>44279744
Might want to look up linnorm/lindwurms then, it could definitely give you ideas for themes. To give you a better idea of what they entail, though, they are what Jormungandr is classified under.
>>44275362
looks nicemay i suggest office quest as a possible title
>>44283616
The working title is "Magical Engineering". I do like yours, though.
>>44277583
>>44279488
Glad you guys liked it. I know it has a low chance of getting picked up, but maybe a miracle happens.
I'm going to keep the tunnels of Merlin plot idea for a mid-season episode. But I don't think it works for the pilot, as I said earlier.
Now the trick is coming up with a plot that actually does.
>>44263598
>>44259167
>>44238304
Have you considered that they are sometimes effectively sea-and-storm gods with undersea empires?
>>44287860
This is just the tiniest bit inaccurate, eastern dragons aren't omnibenevolent, they could be enraged and bring ruin just like anyone else when offended.
They represented the skies above; beautiful, limitless, bringer of rain and plenty, but can flicker into a calamitous hurricane overnight.
>>44268786
Some dolphins have super fucked up fetishes.
>>44213692
I had this one, the wizard one, and the Egypt one. The last one was great because it taught me both actual ancient history and ended in everyone dying from an ancient mummy curse!
>>44212273
I prefer the three- seven- or twelve-headed dragon of my childhood fairy tales
>>44287991
Wasn't there a whole era where they all went batshit insane and started eating children and drowning kingdoms left right and center? That's when the whole Lotus Prince myth pops up.
>>44285182
Yeah, this all looks like it has a lot of potential.
I'd honestly start asking for more details, seeing as I'm looking to get into animation. However, I'm about three years away from being prepared in that field.
Anyway, keep it up. I want to see where this is going.
>>44294554
>I'd honestly start asking for more details, seeing as I'm looking to get into animation
If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.If you have any better ideas for a pilot plotline please tell me, because I have at least a season's worth of episode ideas and no good pilot idea
>>44295229
Bump, because I actually find this neat
>>44287860
Bullshit this is heavily biased towards the Eastern ones, I mean just look at how they list the body parts.
>>44295229
>really generic everyman viewer insert type acting like a stereotypical main character, doing the walking introduction etc
>he's a new hire at the company, fresh out of school, grateful for the opportunity and eager to prove himself, everything as innoffensive and cheerfully mundane as possible
>its his first fay, so he gets a tour(introducing the real characters), watches an orientation video, and gets settled in
>over his first day he interacts with all the main characters, slowly losing his composure
>pilot ends with him going Frank Grimes, yelling at everyone about unproffessionalism and shit, and then biting it in some suitably ignoble way. Getting sat on by a dragon or accidentally drinking from a thermos full of some awful potion or breaking a summoning circle and getting dragged into some demon's hellrape pit. I'm bad at specifics.
>>44212273
>lizard-like Western dragon
So Europe's wide variety of Dragons don't exist anymore?
>>44298786
Everyone seems to have forgotten three-, seven- and twelve-headed ones too. I mean, in my country's tales/folklore one-headed dragons are practically unheard of
>>44299537
What country? I think it's more the Western European dragons that became popular for whatever reason, and I think they mostly only had one head
>>44302489
Hungary
>>44298345
It's generally not a great idea to introduce a fake main character in a pilot. Audiences want to know exactly what they will be getting from the show very quickly.
An orientation video might make sense, though. Of course, the protagonist will already know all the information one could expect in such a video (he did graduate from a wizarding school, after all), so he might be able to provide some funny commentary or something.
I don't know, it may be a bit too on-the-nose.
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