What might the best magical moat look like?
made of lava
or pure energy
>>44178681
>made of lava
>The Lavamen march through your moat and rape your women
>or pure energy
>You enemies tap into your moat to power their energy weapons
>>44178681
>pure energy
uh
>>44178653
There's no water resistance.
Fall into the moat? You fall down to the bottom and break your legs. Then drown.
Trying to take a boat across? Not happening; the boat falls to the bottom.
Try to lower yourself down on a ladder and walk across the bottom? You'd better be able to hold your breath.
>>44178653
A half sphere of water magically suspended around the entire castle, because if you live in a setting where a magical moat is an option, then enemies can use magic to just fly over it.
>>44178653
Five layers, each patterned after one of the rivers of the greek underworld.
>>44178653
The old "bottomless pit" is a classic for a reason.
Channel Lake Stuckforever into a moat then create a field a massive gravity above it.
>>44178653
A moat made out of tar that's haunted by skeletons of people and ancient creatures that drag you into the muck if you try to cross without the right spell.
The only way to cross safely is to activate the bone bridge that rises out of the tar.
The castle itself is probably sealed from the outside to prevent the smell from getting in.
>The moat is an inter-dimensional gateway to a nearly identical castle in another dimension.
Would this be a dick move?
>>44179928
>Your castle is in another dimension
Fucking Toad.
There is no drawbridge, the moat just parts before welcome visitors and remains for unwelcome.
A regular looking moat that is actually a gargantuan water elemental bound to protect the castle.
The moat is actually liquid nitrogen with an illusion spell to make it look like lava.
>>44179928
>>44180224
I'd play a Super Mario 64 campaign.
The moat is actually a constant layer of smoke or fog that you have to walk through. No one without a royal escort has ever entered the mist and returned.
>>44179646
>Try to lower yourself down on a ladder and walk across the bottom? You'd better be able to hold your breath.
If it has no resistance, would it still displace air? Maybe you could indeed breath.
>>44182485
There are actually plenty of slightly heavier than air gasses that will suffocate you very quickly.
>>44178653
SPHERES
OF
ANNIHILATION
It's a seemingly bottomless pit. It actually goes straight down to Hell.
>>44178653
A bottomless pit that is infinite in width and even deeper than it is wide.
>>44184912
>infinite in width
How do you ever walk across the drawbridge, then?
>>44179253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6vUraHFIw
>>44178653
An illusory bridge over a moat that leads to a field of teleportation disguised as an illusory mansion/castle/objective that displaces you into a dummy mansion/castle/objective with significantly less precious valuables inside but just enough to make it feel legitimate.
The best defense is one that makes you think you have already overcome it.
A ring of fire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBTg7q9oNc
>>44184931
Obviously, the drawbridge is finite.
Demon geometry, yo.
>>44179646
So, a very heavy gas then?
Full of slavs
Perfectly vertical, like an upside down waterfall pulling enemies into the sky. If they can't get out they drown, if they can gravity takes care of the rest.
The moat is filled with golems that also carry your castle. They can lift it up an extra number of yards in case people get too close.
The golems are all very spiky and the corpses they collect over time can be animated in a pinch for extra defences.
>>44182508
Neon, Argon, Xenon, and if you also want to kill things that don't need to breathe, Radon.
>>44179646
>>44178653
My magical moat was painted by the greatest magical painter using magical paints and inks. Although it looks real and smells, feels real, it isnt real. There is a powerful illusion in place so that anyone who touches it will feel as if they are drowning, and suffocate. Any attempts to use a boat, or cross it will cause a hurricane to start (magically) and swallow up the boat and everyone in it. They will be dropped into a trapdoor built into the moat thats used to feed the monsters.
Note: monsters not included
>what kind of monsters?
Illithids, around 20000 kobalds, and 1 dragon
>muh wizard dispells the illusion
The illusion has an illusion of dispelling placed on it that activates when dispelled. Making it deem dispelled but still working.
>muh saves
This illusion could make a water elemental drown. It could make a fish breathe normally on land. This illusion is so real, it might actually be cursed water i dont even know.
>how do you get in there
I have a key
>how expensive is this contraption
It can be yours for the quick and easy price of 50 easy payments of 19 platinum coins and 99 gold. No refunds.
> magical moot
I have been here too long
>>44185837
Wtf is an illusion of dispelling? I could literally dispel the illusion regardless after detect magic pings.
>>44185897
Ah that is the beauty of it. Hidden within the illusion, which is detectable. Is an indetectable spell that re-targets dispell magic to it, it then uses the dispell magic to activate it which fizzles, and then projects an illusion that shows the real illusion being dispelled on a sensory level. A perfectly undetectable illusion is now cloaked that even magic cant reveal...until it resets which happens after the buyer chooses to. He has a key for that.
Again its simple
You cast detect magic, and find an illusion
You cast dispell magic
It activates the hidden spell
The hidden spell forces the dispell on it.
It activates on a mundane item, such as a rock.
It projects an illusion that the spell worked and dispelled the illusion.
You think it worked, and walk in and die
>>44185860
>moot
what?
>>44186035
You know, a demonic patron to protect your small realm from outside influences. Don't even need a moat anymore. Just make sure to bring snacks in case you get hungry.
>>44178653
Mundane looking moat with drawbridge on it to catch unsuspecting intruder.
Those that step on the bridge will not realize that it is enchanted with time and space magic. They will never get to the other side and will keep walking until they grew old and dies.
>>44185860
haven't we all
>>44178653
Hell with a magical moat. Have a moat with BEARS.
http://www.castle.ckrumlov.cz/docs/en/zamek_1nadvori_mpriko.xml
>>44186035
How new are you to this site?
>>44180818
Sounds tedious for any kind of traditional castle filled with people, but I like this idea for a Haunted or Vampire's castle.
>>44185163
makes sense
you could also use that idea in the other direction an infinintly tall spire that has a elevator that can go to the top.
>>44185837
i liked your ideas at first but then you started going nah uh that wont work to stop people getting past your moat
>>44185860
as much as i miss moot new guy seems to be doing an alright job to
>>44186054
>Just make sure to bring snacks in case you get hungry.
>>44186035
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Moot
this might tell you a little about him to
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Mod
>>44186401
fuck meant to mention my sides
>>44185958
But after i cast the first dispel id cast dispel magic again and it'd still be pinging, sorry senpai- it doesn't work. Even if this scroll does it job then it'd still ping on detect magic and i'd cast true sight to see what was really going on.
>>44178653
you wouldn't see the best magical moat until you'd already fallen in. Some kind of dimensional displacement barrier would be best.
>>44186414
>1d4chan
Cancer pls
>>44179762
upmoating for classiest vote
>>44178681
>pure energy
>>44186035
It's finally happened.
>>44178681
>pure energy.
Aaah, crap, we've got a "Bleach" fan over here....
>>44178653
Actually a giant slime monster.
>>44178653
It's saltwater; the only sentient race are frogpeople and can't tolerate it.
Water so clear it casts a perfect reflection, without reflecting people or sentient beings back.
Upon jumping into the water, your momentum would carry you out the other side, as if you were thrown out of it, but everything would be mirrored.
>>44192964
people started with this bullshit within 2 days of him leaving
it's literal bait
>>44178653
The best moat is a waterfall (build the castle on a rocky precipice that sticks out into space from the middle of the curtainwall, with a narrow footpath behind the waterfall leading to the undercroft); a magical waterfall hanging in the air, endless recirculating its own water, would be bawler.
There is no moat. The castle is built on the back of a gigantic, clockwork, tortoise.
The moat is made of ice. If you touch it, you freeze instantly. If you aren't in contact with the ground, the air elementals will attack you.
The only way across is over a stone drawbridge that is actually a stone giant. Trying to cross without his permission means being dumped off the side onto the ice. There are hundreds of statues of frozen people who have been thrown to their deaths.
>>44179253
Everything is made of pure energy, so he's technically correct.
The moat is a pocket dimension that you can't access without the key. It envelops the castle completely, so even though the castle is still in the main universe, nobody can get to it without going through the pocket dimension.
>>44195466
Ech, take your high school physics outta here
>>44195589
I'm sorry that the answer you didn't think of is both obvious and basic.
>>44195361
I march thousands of men over it, carefully positioned, so I can march through the tunnel of frozen bodies.
>>44195663
I'm sorry you don't know the definitions of 'technically' or 'correct'
>>44195967
>turning this into a semantic argument
I'm sorry you don't realize that both those words have many different definitions in any dictionary you care to look at.
>>44185837
>The illusion has an illusion placed on it
This is horrifying. How deep does the rabbit hole go?
>>44196095
>Everything is made of pure energy, so he's technically correct.
>I'm sorry you don't realize that both those words have many different definitions in any dictionary you care to look at.
What definitions did you use to yield the top sentence?
>>44195530
Surely you could just bury it, or use move earth and push earth from around the fort over it.
>>44195940
Let me guess, you are a general of the imperial guard
>>44178653
It's a regular moat, but any weapon or armor placed within it over night gets a +5 enhancement bonus, though it appears to get rusty.
It's shit for keeping people out, mind, but it's pretty fucking great to have. That's why we built another moat around it! That one works just fine, except for all the belching it does. Last time I hire a wizard to build my defenses, let me tell you.
>>44178653
Sonny, let me tell you about the time the Galactic Empire decided to build a space moat.
Twenty trillion credits went into this project, you have to understand. Millions of interdictor-class ships arranged in a synchronous orbit with one another, perfectly aligned. With painstakingly exact efforts, black holes were arranged to provide the necessary gravitational lensing. The end result: the interdictors' beams overlaid into a spherical shell, a lightyear thick, around the target system. No hyperspace travel could cross that boundary, forcing travelers to spend over a year hauling their asses along at sublight speeds. The supply requirements for a successful run would have made them obvious to Imperial scans, allowing for easy interception when they crossed the border.
And for what? To keep peeping toms away from the Emperor's beach house! And it all goes to waste when a Rebel spy throws a rock into a rotor, starting a cascade of events that destroys the entire project. This wasn't a carefully chosen rotor, either, it was just the first one they happened to see.
With engineering this shitty, for purposes so fucking retarded, I'm almost convinced Palpatine was just doing them to fund the construction sector of the economy.
>>44197208
>Surely you could just bury it
>envelops the castle completely
>>44179253
>Highly volatile, chaotic energy contained.
The concept of an electric fence. It's really not mindboggling.
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>>44195282
ITT: a setting where a body of water big enough to surround a castle can be enchanted with the equivalent of 9th-level spells, even multiple spells with contingencies, but no one knows how to cast a relatively basic Fly spell.
>>44178653
enigmatic wizard re-creates the river stix with his dead enemies since he was too lazy to fill it with actual water
Moat is a Los Vegas-style fountain moat that uses magic to run it.
made more for style than function though can create powerful waves and water elementals for defense as well as entertainment
Huge one side portal moat. Castle just floats above with AA Guns.
>>44205010
A slime that size could just reach up and grab you if you tried to fly over it.
>>44205010
The moat would be a wizard's protection against armies, not that other wizard neighbor he doesn't like. I don't really see why you'd think a moat would be used for something like that.
>>44203674
That's the idea, if I was the enemy of the guy in the castle
>>44178653
The entire moat is an enormous Water Elemental.
>>44178653
Get a shit ton of territorial water nymphs to inhabit it, they keep it clean and beautiful while singing beautiful music, and anyone dumb enough to trespass ends up naked with there throat slashed at the bottom of it. It'd also make it so if your army was dumb enough to lay siege you'd get a whole bunch of angry native spellcasters and whatever shit they've hoarded up in that moat over the years or kept in it against them.
A semi-spherical 1m thick layer around the castle.
In this layer gravity directs everything towards the sphere part which connects to ground.
At the top of the sphere gravity changes direction in xy plane randomly so you can't balance on top of it.
Gravity is also over9000 stronger than normal.
So basically a 1m thick black hole semisphere.
>>44194793
You did it wrong. You make the mirror moat. It creates reflections. The reflections rise up and fight them.
Mirror matches for days
>>44207285
What happens when you bring a mirror to fight the mirror moat?
>>44207146
You could just drop a huge weight on it from above and the gravity would pull it towards the ground, accelerating the object into your castle. Even if the top diverts it slightly, the thing only have to travel a 1m before its out the other side at an even faster velocity.
>>44207295
You're forced into the mirror world to fight the mirror bossIt's a Persona moment
>Can you face your true self anon?
>>44178653
Full of aggressive dicks.
>>44207317
And here I just thought it would make more mirrors exponentially.
It's a stream of high energy protons rotating at a high fraction of the speed of light.
>>44207353
So the same as this place?
>>44178653
An entire ocean
>>44178653
It projects a memory-altering field that makes you forget why you went there in the first place.
>>44186035
>>44178653
Dick moat
Straighties won't go near it and faggots won't want to go past it
>>44211073
Sweden already tried that.
Air. Lots of it.
Flying castles are the best castles.
Magical moat? That's a waste of space and just makes a huge eye sore. The ideal solution is to cast a 360* sphere around the castle. The sphere would act as a teleportation spell, meaning any person or animal trying to walk through is instantly teleported to the opposite side of the castle. The only way to avoid the annoying teleport is to have a special blessing placed upon you. Meaning that normal servants and family can pass through unaffected. Also, if someone just tried to drop a big weight on the castle there's other enchantments to deal with that buffoonery.
>>44211210
anti-matter moat
>>44215294
How to contain it?
Otherwise you will quickly have gamma ray moat instead.
>>44215365
>How to contain it?
with magic obviously
rather than moving anti-mater into the moat we open up a sub-space of anti-mater and put the castle in it (with magic protection obviously).
>>44215438
So what happens when a sorry sod pokes a stick into it? Besides the fact that a gram of anti-matter has the explosive potential of 43 kilotons of TNT and a small stick weights about five hundred grams?
>>44215495
then they'll explode
perfect defense system
Why not disguise the moat as grass?
Think about it.
>>44215583
Or, you know, disguise the castle as a bunch of trees.
>>44178653
A pit full of magical mines, because fuck you, WIZARDS.
>>44215635
And then disguise the trees.
As a castle.
>>44215803
And then disguise the castle as a land cloud.
If you can see it you're doing magic moats wrong. The preferred method is to cover your castle in black paint and put a very powerful aura of "I feel really bad about this guys. I'm out" around the castle, meaning that most enemies will run away once they get close enough. If they manage to get through that it means they're dedicated to causing harm to the castle or its inhabitants and the castle wall's enchantments will do the rest.
>>44194808
People have been doing it since WAAAY before that. It's been a joke for a long time. In fact, it's a good way to spot try hard newfags as they scramble to tell everyone they know who moot is.
>>44207316
No no - gravity 'flows' to the extremities of the sphere. It would just get deflected.. And flattened.
>>44217336
The gravity is as strong as in black hole so it would be enough.
>>44178653
If only the waslls were not such a strange stucco.
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>>44205010
This is one of those bait things I've heard about, isn't it? Quite aside from the fact that there's no reason to assume a dimensional displacement barrier could extend vertically, this is the Lord of the Rings "why didn't the eagles carry them" argument, isn't it? And it has the same answer
>>44179892
I'm using this at some point, thanks.
Wasps nest, one giant wasp nest, filled with enchanted pissed off wasps. Maybe they're regular wasps, maybe they're worse.
>>44217336
Oh, so just dig under it, eazy peazy
